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Speaker 1: Aye, sure it alone. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter. It's Monday morning. Garrett is

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Speaker 1: off today because we're taping really, really early in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a ton of TV all day about Kate Middleton.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure we got our podcast done

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Speaker 1: brighton early by nine o'clock every morning, we have a

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Speaker 1: new episode for you. So I'm up early today doing

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Speaker 1: the podcast by myself. But I'm never really by myself. Naughties,

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Speaker 1: you're there with me, holding my hand along the way.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time. So today's episode is gonna focus

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Speaker 1: on Kate Middleton. Friday, we got the breaking news about

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Speaker 1: her cancer diagnosis, and today we're going to dedicate the

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Speaker 1: show to all things Kate, and we're going to do

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Speaker 1: it in a nice way. Okay, big story. At the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, there have been calls for Stephen Colbert,

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Speaker 1: Andy Cohen, Kim Kardashian, and even Blake Lively to apologize

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Speaker 1: after they all mocked Kate Middleton. So the criticism directed

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Speaker 1: at Colbert, Kardashian, Cohen and others for mocking Kate Middleton's

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Speaker 1: disappearance and spreading rumors about her personal life reflect a

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Speaker 1: broader concern about the lack of discretion and empathy in

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Speaker 1: the public discourse, especially when it evolves around someone's personal struggles.

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Speaker 1: Let me remind you coldbar made fun of the royal couple,

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Speaker 1: even bringing up old rumors about a potential and alleged

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Speaker 1: and fair that William may have had may not have had. Also,

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Speaker 1: Kim Karda is involved in the controversy. Before Kate announced

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Speaker 1: that she had cancer, Kim did push these conspiracy theories

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Speaker 1: and now she's been criticized for spreading quote harmful misinformation.

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Speaker 1: And who can forget that Andy Cohen, who always has

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Speaker 1: to get in on the action, he didn't believe that

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Speaker 1: the video of Kate at the farm market was real,

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Speaker 1: sparking more speculation there, and then onmid Scobie that's Megan

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Speaker 1: Markle and Harry's friend. He is getting pushed back too

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Speaker 1: because he tweeted and then deleted a tweet about Kate

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Speaker 1: Middleton's cancer announcement, and this people are saying is really insensitive.

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Speaker 1: So what we're getting to here, naughties, is how this

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Speaker 1: was handled before Kate revealed that she had cancer. While

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Speaker 1: it's acknowledged that the royal family is subject to public scrutiny,

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Speaker 1: there is a call for greater discretion and empathy, especially

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Speaker 1: support in individuals like Kate during difficult times, rather than

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Speaker 1: perpetuating rumors and sensatializing the headlines to try and get

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Speaker 1: cliques or in Andy's case, Kim's case, attention. So overall,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a recognition that the Palace's handling of

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Speaker 1: Liam McSweeney, who's one of the Real Housewives, a former housewife,

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Speaker 1: is going after Andy Cohen saying his remarks were cruel.

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Speaker 1: She said, quote Andy Cohen gets a kick out of

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Speaker 1: being cruel to women, and Kate Middleton is no exception.

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Speaker 1: She concludes by saying, quote, I hope that after she

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Speaker 1: was forced to publicly talk about her cancer diagnosis, Andy

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Speaker 1: will muster up the decency to apologize to her. People

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Speaker 1: with power need to lead by example. Now that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what Blake Lively has done. Blake made fun of Kate

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Speaker 1: Middleton and that photographer now Blake feels terrible about it

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Speaker 1: and has apologized. Do these other people? Does Stephen Colbert,

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian, Andy Cohen? Do they owe Kate an apology?

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Speaker 1: Insiders are saying that they should be ashamed of themselves

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Speaker 1: Do they owe her an apology? Hey? Go vote on

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results. Okay, more Kate news.

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Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan have reached out to Kate and William

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Speaker 1: following the cancer diagnosis of Reveola. So in the wake

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Speaker 1: to their emails, which they've not done yet. Complicated, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Now Meghan's going to take a picture of her kids.

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Speaker 1: is Naughty Gossip and to check back tomorrow to hear

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Speaker 1: your results. And now it's time for a nicest of

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Speaker 1: I'm truly truly sorry. It was not my intention. We

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