WEBVTT - Episode 8 - Freedom 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:06.360 H everyone then your prison go on. Like they had 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:07.400 a lot of struggles. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.320 It's hard not to attack clear in your life, especially 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.080 when you have identity questions or you're not we used 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.320 to be, disassociate yourself with so much of your pass 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.480 and then you know, for me, now I'm here, but 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.680 now I'm a home new set of issues. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.440 Hey, it's the Descent and I'm Charlie Webster. This is 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.519 Surviving ol chapter The Twins who brought down a Dubord 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.080 Season two. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:49.000 M h. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.040 The Floor Is Twins spent eight months trying to get 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.200 out Chappo on tape while they were running drug for 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.679 him in Mexico. They handed themselves into authorities and then 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.840 spent the next ten years cooperating for the government in prison. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.080 Then it was two long days on the witness stand. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.280 Finally El Chapel was sent to prison for life plus 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:15.960 thirty years. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.000 Everything the twins had worked award for over a decade 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.800 trying to turn their lives around culminated at this moment, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.560 and it was finally over. For the first time in 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.479 their lives they could look forward to. They're happily ever 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.840 after and on his life outside of the world of peddling, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.640 kilos or the bars of a prison cell. But what 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.760 does that actually mean For two people whose introduction to 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:46.640 the drug life began at seven years old? The cooperation 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.200 was over and at thirty eight, the brothers only had 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.080 two years left until they would finally be free. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.360 The government no longer needed them, so their protection as 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.240 high profile witnesses was over. After what they had gone 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.880 through over ten years. Another two might see music, But 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.240 there was one challenge. None of us saw it coming. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:08.600 COVID. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.960 Who was the last two years any different? 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:20.600 Fear miserable because they continue to fight to go home, 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.920 and then COVID hit We're in twenty four hours lockdown. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.400 We'reusually unlockdown in death aspect, and we'll let your out 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.119 when we think it's safe, and you're like, how could 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.040 they do that? It was kind of like the ridiculous 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.200 to think that we've been on segregated you know, you know, 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.639 it's set apart from the society for safety reasons and that. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.400 COVID hit right, But we're COVID free. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.680 We never been around anyone exposed to coviche, So the 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.880 only people that have been exposed to go with are 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:59.120 the cards and that's the only way to get it in. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.280 Is that they're going to bring it into us. So 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.600 they get to go home and every day and come back, 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:06.320 go home, come back. But where you're stuck in the 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.160 cell and you're back captive again. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:14.080 You know, you're you're hungry, you know, you're just in 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:14.920 that stall, you know. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.680 And I'll write letters to my wife feeling miserable about 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.440 what she was dealing with on her home. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.640 I can't explain to you what it's like to. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:35.560 Do that, like to write letters, writing so many letters. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.640 And if I didn't get the mail, like didn't write, 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:44.400 I feel so sick. My anxiety would be so horrible. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.520 If I didn't hear from her, they could least you 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.880 know that she was okay, the kids were okay. And 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.800 then the worst part is that these pieces of shit 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:56.720 he old us, like. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.560 Do you have to write a book every day? 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.880 Like, man, do your fucking job, man, you know, pick 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.720 my fucking mail, put in the mailbax, Like we don't 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.440 want to read it, Like are you serious? We're fucking 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.480 log down in cord, we have no access to the phone, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.920 we can't call that family. You're gonna fucking talk shit 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.600 about me right in a letter? This is my fucking 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:18.000 right to write a letter for my children and or 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.640 worried you can't call home and check and learn my 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:28.640 mom and everyone. I wasn't allowed to see them talk 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:35.960 like octour for one hour behind like that plastic shower. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:43.039 Prisoners nationwide was stopped from seeing any visitors from March 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.440 twenty twenty, when COVID first hit the world. When Pete 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.920 was finally able to have his family visit seven months later, 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.760 it had to be done through a plastic shower curtain, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:59.000 and their time together was limited to an hour on 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.000 the other side of the car. COVID had hit Jay's 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:07.000 prison early on, so Viole applied for compassionate release, hoping 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.760 he would be allowed to serve his final months under 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:15.320 home confinement. The compassionate release was denied. The twins were 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.080 not eligible for home confinements for safety reasons. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.320 The last few months were seen longer than then. Some 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.840 of the time I was like there, and you know, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.560 with COVID, it's just kind of like made some everything 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.039 a little bit harder, and any other situation, I would 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.599 have been home already. Like because of my situation, I 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:41.279 wasn't like privilege to some of the opportunities that regular 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.239 inmates had like a happy house or home confinement or 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.000 anything like that. So any other time would have been 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.200 home already worked. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.000 But we filed for compassionate release just because in the 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.480 prison he was at, COVID was already there and there 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.040 was already like inmates and staff that had it. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.720 And this was you know, early on, right, you don't 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:01.640 know nothing about COVID. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:02.600 Yeah, it was scary. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.240 Around the same time, Jay started to feel sick, but 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.359 none of the prison gods believed him. They thought he 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.400 was faking his illness because his compassionate release had been denied. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.159 It was hard, It was I was so thankful for 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.159 not being sick, for being healthy most of my time 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:22.640 in prison. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.840 It was probably one of the hardest times of just 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.400 not knowing, especially the whole time that he was in prison. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.160 It's like we were there every weekend, and. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.960 Then when COVID hit, we couldn't see him for the 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:45.200 last year, and he ended up getting sick during that time. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.560 You know, for me to get to that point and 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:52.400 then being sick, especially during COVID, just made everyth even harder. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.560 They must have thought that because it was around the 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.159 same time that we filed for compassion release that he 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.919 was like almost making it up until like his whole 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.039 face like blew up and his throat, like his airwaves 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:14.720 ended up closing on him, so he was almost incompatitated 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.240 by the time they took him out of the prison. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:22.080 That's how the infection got so bad, and then that's 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.840 how he ended up getting acceptis. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.160 I can imagine that must have been so horrific for you. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.160 What was it like for you being in a settle 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.200 and struggling to breathe and not being held. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.040 I think just being like helpless in the cell. I 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.120 just like it got to a point where I couldn't 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.320 you know, like I'm shaking, Like I can't even tell you, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.840 like what that last week was like, because you're in pain, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.000 and I'm just lost. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.040 Jay called me one day he couldn't like even speak 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.720 because his face and his like everything was so swollen, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.400 like even when he was speaking, like he I couldn't 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:05.640 really understand him. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.520 And I got into this whole rant that. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.080 He needs to sign out of the program just so 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.080 that way they can take him to a regular prison, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:15.800 so that way he had the right to go to 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:16.440 a hospital. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.080 You know, I was in panet, desperate and I was 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.040 training everything, and I guess it was getting to a 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.200 point where I was like not well, and you know, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.920 they mean people around me are just trying to take 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.760 care of me. And I just don't even recall. I 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:37.560 just know that an officer doing his rounds and night 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.800 saw me and I was unrecognizable at this point. I 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.600 was like he saw me, and he saw me, and 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.080 were your face and that he saw me, He's like, hey, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.000 like oh my something that you know. I just couldn't 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.319 even like I was taking an oxygen. I don't recall. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:03.199 I do know that they carried me out myself. They 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:08.079 put me in an ambulance, and I remember the doctors 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:14.240 being really upset, like this doesn't happen in a day, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.200 you know, just because like what, why why wasn't he 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.600 here sooner? This doesn't happen a day or two days. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.080 It's been going on for a long period of time. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.320 This is not acceptable, you know. I'm just like at 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.440 this point, just like listen, fix me, you know, do 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:31.160 whatever you have to do. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:43.720 Transfer him to another hospital for intensive care. Yeah, another hospital, And. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.440 I guess they just they got lost the first few 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.640 days that those hospital. But is just not being able 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.960 to talk to my family or know from them. You 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.319 can't communicate so and they can't be there. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.160 They didn't like even know what was going on with him, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:02.920 like if he was okay, if he was you know, alive. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.439 We just knew that it was really really bad because 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.400 like in a prison like that, when it comes to 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.640 like security purposes, they don't take you out to the 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:16.959 hospital unless. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.800 You're like almost dying. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.560 So for me to know that, because Jay has to 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:27.480 be moved with marshals and it's like this big, it 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.040 takes a lot of work to move him to a hospital. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.040 So it was devastating. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.120 Not being able to know what was going on and 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.040 speaking to the attorneys and trying to find out if 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.600 my husband was okay, because I'm like, just tell me 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.800 that he's not in a coma, tell me he's you 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.439 know stable, tell me something, and they couldn't. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:51.720 And I want to. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:56.360 Direct access to his doctors. I needed some type of 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.480 line of communication just to know he was okay. I 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.800 didn't know need to know what has what he was at. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.199 I just needed to know that, you know, he was breathing. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:06.679 You know. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.800 He spent fifty six days in the hospital. He had 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:15.679 three surgeries. I think Yeah, it was hard. Like you know, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.040 you're alone, right, you're in the shoe like people you 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.040 spend time in the shoe and then like solitaries like 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:27.840 that's solitude is is hard, but being sick and kind 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.520 of helpless, helpless being in the hospital where you have 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.640 no one to like care for your nurture, you. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.280 Your shackle to a bad Yeah, I. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:41.920 Have a shackle. Like that's hard. I do remember like 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.120 once I started like feeling like a little bit better, 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.200 like I was being in I was in pain. I 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:53.520 had too going down like in my throat and so 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:58.120 I couldn't speak, and I remember that's when you really 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.400 feel that lone. It's like it's you know, I was 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.840 to have all these like thoughts about wow, like when 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.720 you're like not conscious or when you're in those situations, 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.040 that's when you look for that nurturing mom right as 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:17.040 a baby, like I remember just having those feeling like 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.840 like wow, this is why marriage and family is so important. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.079 You're supposed to have someone, you're supposed to have each other. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.960 And I think that it's just kind of like to 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:36.920 me was like again just a reminder right of what 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.480 it's like to be alone, you know, and when you 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.000 when you're in those situations, you wonder like this is 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.240 gonna I'm gonna die alone, Like this is what's gonna 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.959 be like, so kind of going back to those times. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.640 So just going through all that and not having my family, 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:56.080 not having being able to talk to them, that was 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.360 very hard cause I'm a very like I dependent on 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.040 my family, dependent on my wife. I'm a social person, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.319 and just not being able to talk and just be 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.000 inter paining, just kind of just keeping it to yourself, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.360 which a lot of people might think, well, a lot 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.640 of people keep thesearch of I just thanks to my 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:19.480 wife and thanks for me having a twin brother, I 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.319 never had to keep something to myself that was foreign 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:28.360 to me that I'm kind of suffering alone in a way. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.760 Jay got an infection which led to sepsis. Because he 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.400 was left without treatment for so long, he spent fifty 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.280 six days in hospital before he was eventually transferred back 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.400 to prison, but he didn't stay there for long. By 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.920 the time he got back, he only had a few 0:13:47.920 --> 0:14:09.840 weeks left until he was released. The twins were able 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.600 to get two years and two months taken off their 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.439 sentence for good behavior, which is the maximum a federal 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.760 inmate can earn off their sentence for staying out of trouble. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.720 It was around fifteen percent. Because they received the same sentence, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.480 they were released on the same day. When they first 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.480 went to prison, they spent eight months in the Shoe. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.880 Now twelve years later they would go to the Shoe 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.720 for the last time. Because of COVID, prisoners had to 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.080 spend two weeks quarantined in the Shoe before they left. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:48.440 On November fifth, twenty twenty, it was time to go home. 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.200 Jay was first out. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.760 What was it like for you when you came out 0:14:55.800 --> 0:15:00.080 of prison? What was that day? What happened on that day? 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.560 I think it was so real. That was that was 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.600 like for sure, Like I couldn't even course, I didn't sleep, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.720 And as soon as the doors opened, everybody came to 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.720 my you know, they have been saying goodbye, and you know, 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:19.560 people came just give me letters and and I still 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:24.000 couldn't believe. It was emotional, believe or not. I left 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.000 a lot of good people behind that. I think that 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.480 you had a a lot of relationships, yeah, for sure. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:35.880 And I think, yeah, absolutely, I think that I guess 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.760 I think I used to just having me right as 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.720 a positive, like let me come to you for advice 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:48.040 or you know, and just were just like be there 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:52.400 for them, and and I did worry about somewhere like them, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.400 what are they gonna do without me? And you know, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.760 I made a really good friend and I was with 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.360 him for ten years. He was my selling and I 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.080 knew he needed me and he was there for me too, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.760 Like I remember, I used to go through them hard 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.200 times and I went through a hard situation with my 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.840 family and like we're in the cell and he just 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.680 came and hug me, and I remember like just being 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.600 an emotional and he was like one of those tough 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.400 men like, oh, I'm not gonna cry and I'm not 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.400 gonna And then when it was time for me to go, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.000 like that day, he was like he cried. He was like, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.600 what am I gonna do without you? And it's weird 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:38.640 because this individual is famous for how many brothers he has. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.600 And I remember he said, I need to tell you something, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.560 like I never had the relationship with my own brothers 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.600 that I've had with you at and I'm really gonna 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:55.040 like I'm really gonna miss you, and I'm happy that 0:16:55.080 --> 0:17:00.480 you're going home. Man, you deserve it. It was emotional 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.679 you think about it. He was in my life every 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:10.120 day for ten years. That was as long as my run. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.040 So all those people that meant to meet something in 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.840 the street that I knew for within those ten years 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.960 or sometimes less, that I felt close to. You just 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.679 could imagine what it was like for me to be 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.679 with just you know, with him for ten years. And 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.600 he did have a day to come home at that time. 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.760 It was four years, and you know there's people either 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.080 that were not coming home soon or not coming home 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.240 at all. So it didn't kind of weigh. I mean 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.600 it's like bittersly, like you know, I waited for this 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.320 day for so long. I'm more worried about them, like 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:47.240 you're overdoing it. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:48.080 You know. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.800 He would like say that, like nah, I said, you 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.280 guys aren'ta be all right? You know, I just kind 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.280 of give him a those speech because I'm right hugged 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.200 them and did you give him a little speech? Yeah? 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.320 What did you say? I thank them for everything because 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.000 I think that you depend. That's your family, and I'm 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.480 a family man. We have our own little group where 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.360 it's like that you kind of live with every day 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:15.040 that you depend. You formed this bond and I had 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.680 begged the staff. They're like, please come get me early. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.000 You know, like, don't take your time. You know you're 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.760 gonna go home with you. We're gonna be here at eight. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.240 And they said, your wife is not gonna be on time. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.800 We're not doing that. I said, listen, yes she is, 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.560 I said, listen. I waited a long time for this, please, 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.840 And they came from me early. They came probably a 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:47.400 little bit before six am, and they let me say 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:51.800 goodbite everybody, and just walking down the hallway, I just couldn't. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.000 That was emotional for sure, like goose toumps all on 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.879 my body. Just even when it was time for me 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.679 to sign off paperwork, I was like, wow, this is 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:06.880 really gonna happen, and uh, I'll never forget. Like after 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.320 I signed the paperwork, they're like, go ahead, call your wife, 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.800 see if she's here. I was like, excuse me, they 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.800 call your wife. Pick up the phone and call your wife. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.760 I said I could pick up the phone. He said, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:26.840 technically you're not in prison anymore. And I was like, 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:38.560 oh shit, pick up the phone. No answer, no answer, 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.439 no answer. I don't remember a lot of phone I'm 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.960 I'm like calling like hold on, no answer, no one 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:50.200 is answering my phone. I'm like, no, this ain't happening. 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:57.000 And finally I called. She answered, I'll never forget. She 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:02.840 was like, well, Peter, in an hour, I said, what 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.840 I like, listen. I was so hurt. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:06.840 It hurt me. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:13.359 I was sitting there like and because of my situation, 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.240 they just didn't want to like They're not just gonna 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.200 put me out the door. They want to make sure 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:24.800 that I leave the premises safely. And I was so 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.359 embarrassed to you manager, she said, Now, she said, I 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:32.560 told you. I was like, oh my god, and thinking 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:38.840 like this is not happening to me. And I was 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:45.440 like wow, just sitting there and they're like, you want 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:50.040 to use the phone, go ahead and just call your 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.840 wife back, make sure she gets hurt. And I was 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.080 like oh okay, and called her back. I said I 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:57.960 could talk to you like on the phone, like wow, 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.280 I don't have to use like you know, the operators 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.359 don't have to tell me I'm being recorded. It was 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.159 like wow, I'm That was the first secum for like 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.440 being free that I felt, which was amazing. And yeah, 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:13.879 she got there a little bit like an hour and 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:15.080 towns later. 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.359 And I felt so bad because there's like a whole 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.760 entourage and everyone has to wait in order to like 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.480 release Jay, to make sure that you know he's safe, 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:25.520 our family is safe. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.200 It's a process which you think it's like arm guard. 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.080 It's like taking you. Yeah, and they waited, and you know, 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:32.480 now she just has everyone waiting. 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.680 I felt really embarrassed, but when I got out of 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.320 the car, everyone was like, Okay, I get it. I 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:43.359 broke my foot the night before. I was trying to 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.240 like run around the house and make everything perfect. 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:48.160 That's like what I do. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.800 I want to like lay everything out and make sure everything. 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:53.760 You know what I would tell her, you're so worried 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.679 about everything else that you just focus on what's important. 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.720 I just wanted to make sure, like what, no matter 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.960 I charged Jay's toothbrush, I wanted to make sure. 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:07.639 He had his like everything he could possibly be, like 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:08.520 his slippers. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.119 Like I was like, my mind just goes to the 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.480 most simplest things of what he's going to need, and 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:18.240 I just wanted to make everything perfect for him, and no. 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.280 Matter what it was special. I ended up. 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:24.840 Just running outside and putting up all of the Christmas lights. 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:29.800 It was just barely November. I had the landscapers out there, just. 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.840 Trying to make everything so nice for him, and I 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:40.240 ended up tripping over one of the cables outside and 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.680 I completely broke my foot. 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:43.919 I was. 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.360 What is going on? And it was it was hard, 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.520 but you know, it didn't take away like once I 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.000 was there and once I felt like like I still 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.880 couln't believe I felt free, like no shackles, no, And 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.040 of course it was a more so all my kids 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.560 were there and we just stood there just crying in. 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.959 Tears, crying. It was so sorrey. 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.520 You got to go, like be there, you have to go. 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.399 So I had to jump in the car and it 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.920 was like I still remember my son, you know, just 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.040 kind of quiet looking at me. He was happy at 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.240 a smile on his face, and he can hug me, 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.600 and I'm like, I told you I was always going 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:24.080 to be there. 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.880 That's your youngest who had never actually lived with you, 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.680 he'd only ever known you in prison, and. 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:35.199 He could not even like comprehend that his dad one 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.320 day was going to be able to walk out that door. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:41.800 Like he didn't even He's like, there's no way, are 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:45.200 you sure? He never thought that he would be released 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:45.679 from prison. 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:51.919 It twere. I was lost of words, Like I was 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:56.760 just like this feeling of fulfillment just hard to describe. 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:03.399 And and they're just it was really emotional and just 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.280 me wanting to like touch them and just you know, 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:08.400 hug yeah, hugging. 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:09.520 Yeah. 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:13.880 And you know, I had advantage of being home alossom 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:18.920 than my brother because of the time different. I would 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.920 turn with my kids and eventually we touched my two 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.080 nieces and so I was like, hey, oh my god, 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.480 like and they're crying, and they were on FaceTime. 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.640 They were so excited, they were so anxious, which. 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:34.800