1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Weird. Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: a listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: This is the best of with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Thanksgivings not very far away. Buck, you and I are 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: excited about this. We're going to be in Florida. We'll 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: have a bunch of family and friends. I am confident 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: that at my Thanksgiving there will be people who voted 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: for Kamala. Believe it or not, family big gathering. They 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: are going to be Kamala voters. That's fine. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy watching football, drinking beer and knowing that 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: the good team won. I'm not gonna need to feel 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: necessarily the need to gloat. And I would never even 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: remotely think about the idea of saying, Hey, you aren't 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: allowed to come to my family Thanksgiving because I disagree 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: with your personal politics. I think that's crazy. I would 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: suggest that the vast majority of you agree the same way. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: I actually give credit to Jade Vance here on election Day. 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: You remember Buck, he said, Look, you may vote differently, 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: but the idea of giving up a lifetime friend over 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: the fact that you might have a different political opinion 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: in this election, to me, is crazy, and I would 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: stand by that. I just had a twenty year law 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: school anniversary. A lot of people voted the opposite way 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: of me. At that law school anniversary reunion. I had 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: an awesome time. Still, but that's not the way the 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: left is responding. They are absolutist and they are now 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: going on This was a woman going on MSNBC. Buck 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: who is a psychiatrist. She went on Joyreid's show. I 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: would submit that she actually should be giving as much 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: help to Joyreid as she could, because I think that 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: chick is crazy and actually not mentally well and regularly 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: says insane things. So if anybody needs a psychiatrist on 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: daily television, I would submit it to Joy Reid. But no, 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: this MSNBC psychiatrist said, you guys, it's okay to not 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: make the decision to go out there and attend Thanksgiving. 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: You can let people know how you feel. Listen to this. 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: There is a push, I think, just a societal norm 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: that if somebody is your family, that they are entitled 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: to your time. And I think the answer is absolutely not. 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: So. 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: If you are. 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: Going to a situation where you have family members where 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: you have close friends who you know have voted in 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: ways that are against you, like what you said, against 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: your livelihood, and it's completely fine to not be around 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: those people and to tell them why, you know, to say, 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: I have a problem with the way that you voted 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: because it went against my very livelihood, and I'm not 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: going to be around you this holiday. 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: I need to take some space for me. How crazy 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: is this that this is what MSNBC is saying to 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: their audience that basically you should And there are lots 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: of left wingers out there. I've only seen left wingers 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: so far doing this because I think they are the 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: ones that are psychologically broken. They're the ones that have 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: been saying for a decade now, if you vote Trump, 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: you're not welcome at my Thanksgiving. How crazy is this 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: that this is a psychiatrist going on and talking to 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately a lot of psychologically broken people and 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: telling them is completely normal to make your political opinions 61 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: dictate what you do over. 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: The holidays if you can't stomach being around half the 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 5: country in a social setting, and particularly if it's a 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 5: family member you've got mental health problems. Yes, it's just 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: straight up, there's no way there's no way to sugarcoat it. 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: There's no way around this. 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 5: If you can't be around a family member who voted 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: differently than you, and we know this tends to be 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: a one way street. If you're a lib who can't 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: be around somebody who voted for Trump, you have a problem. 71 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: There's something wrong with you. I grew up in New 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: York City, lived in New York City most of my 73 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: adult life. I was outnumbered by Democrats everywhere constantly, And 74 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 5: you know, you figure it out. You're polite to people, 75 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: you go through your data day, you just try to 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: conduct yourself with all of the you know, the best 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: ideals in mind, and you don't act like a lunatic 78 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: and they're acting like maniacs. And going into Thanksgiving, I 79 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: think is going to be particularly tough in some families 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 5: where people, you know, the media realizes, by and large, 81 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 5: we've talked about this that the whole Trump is Hitler 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 5: thing was just a it was a con, it was 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: a lie, it was a slander, It was just to 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 5: get people emotional upset. Voter turnout, there are people out there, 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 5: lots of them, who actually believe that still, and they 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 5: are emotionally damaged by this, and if you question whether 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 5: they actually believe it or not, you know who's having 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 5: lunch in the White House tomorrow at eleven am, Trump 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 5: with Biden. 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: I just think if you were an honest purveyor of 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: the media landscape to go from Trump is Hitler, He's fascist, 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: all of his supporters are garbage to Trump wins the 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: popular vote and just pivot on its heel and Biden 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: now is going to have Trump in for lunch. Like 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: we were joking about yesterday, you wouldn't have Hitler over 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: for lunch. This, this argument they made was such a lie. 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: I will say this, buck. Did you see the video 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: of doctor Jill Biden with Kamala at Veterans Day? I 99 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: just what the stories that are still to come from 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: out of this White House. I think Jill hates Kamala. 101 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: I think she legitimately hates her wearing that red outfit 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: on election Day? Are you kidding me? And I wonder 103 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: what the conversation is actually going to be like between 104 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: Biden and Trump, because I think Biden may actually interestingly 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: enough like Trump now more than he likes Kamala. And 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: I mean right, I mean think about you know, I 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: don't know what the conversation will actually be. But if 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: I were guessing, I bet Trump walks in and one 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: of the first things he says is, look, they screwed you. 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: You would have been a much tougher opponent than Kamala. 111 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: They didn't treat you fairly, like I think I would 112 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: have very Trump. I think I would have beaten you too, 113 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: but it would have been a lot harder. You were 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: treated really unfairly. And I think Biden's going to be like, yeah, 115 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: I agree with all of that, you know, Clay. Somebody 116 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: who wrongs you is upsetting. 117 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: Somebody who betrays you is a whole level beyond right. 118 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: And this is why I think I've said before in 119 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 5: the show The in the Final Circle of Hell and 120 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 5: Dante's Inferno, it's those who betray. 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: You know, the liz Ches of the world, I'm sorry, 122 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: the world. 123 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's people who have been entrusted by others 124 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: with either power or with or with love or with 125 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: you know, bonds of brother brotherhood, and betray that. 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: That that is really the worst. 127 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: And I got to tell you, I think I think 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: Joe Biden feels betrayed by Kamala Harris. I think that 129 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: if I were Jill Biden, and I'm not. It's not 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 5: a doctor, but I would feel particularly outraged that my 131 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: husband was shoved aside to make room for somebody who 132 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: was completely inept. I mean, now, it's it's not like 133 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 5: we were saying that they say stuff about Trump Clay 134 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: that they know is untrue to try to help get 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 5: more votes. 136 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: What we said about. 137 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: Kamala was true then it is true now it is 138 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 5: just the truth. She was a horrible candidate. 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: Janet in Pennsylvania, what you got for us? 140 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: Hi, good, Good afternoon from Pennsylvania. I just wanted to 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 6: comment on the psychiatrist that was on MSNBC telling Joy 142 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 6: Reid to ignore her family and tell us study in 143 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 6: her family that she didn't agree with. Yeah, so don't 144 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 6: show up for Thanksgiving, you know, I just when you 145 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 6: were playing that, I had the saddest thought, and it 146 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: was that in two thousand and one, in the year, 147 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: in a two and a half months after the September 148 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 6: eleventh attacks, during like the month, the entire month of November, 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 6: all anybody could talk about was how they couldn't wait 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 6: to get home and be with their family, and they 151 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 6: wanted to see their family more than anything. Else in 152 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 6: the whole world. And it's just been it's only been 153 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 6: twenty three years, and just look what the Left is 154 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 6: done to this country. 155 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Awful and thank you for 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: saving America. In Pennsylvania, by the way, uniquely with both 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: a Senate seat and a president vote. Buck. I'll just 158 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: point this out. My father in law died in May 159 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: and I was in that hospital room. It's an awful experience. 160 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: It's great to be able to say bye to people. 161 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: But if you were or if a member of your 162 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: family were to die this fall or this winter, do 163 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: you think your primary thought would be, how did my 164 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: family vote in the presidential election? Even if it just happened. 165 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: No one is actually thinking that. No one on their 166 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: deathbed is thinking, hey, in nineteen eighty four, how did 167 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: my family members vote? No one actually is thinking that. 168 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: One of the primary signifiers, one of the primary red 169 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: flags of a cult is the demand of isolation from 170 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: loved ones, family members, friends. When you are isolated, you 171 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: are decontextualized. You lose a sense of balance, a sense 172 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: of where you are on things, and any political ideology 173 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: in this country, any political party or political candidate who 174 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: would support you not talking to your family or being 175 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 5: around your family even at Thanksgiving, is by definition a 176 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 5: toxic by definition, something that should be rejected at it him. 177 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: No doubt, I think that's well said, But I would 178 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: just point out, if you've ever been in those hospital 179 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: rooms in the final moments of someone's life, you're not 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: talking about how you voted in the two thousand and 181 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: four presidential election. Don't destroy family relationships over election. Many 182 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: different ways to reach the show. You can call in 183 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: eight hundred and two A two two eight A two, 184 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: but also we have talkback. Let me hit a couple 185 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: of these. Paul in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I believe that's 186 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: where Trump finished his final rally, if I remember correctly, 187 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: late late on Monday night into Tuesday morning, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 188 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: the red state of Michigan. Paul, what you got for us? 189 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: So let's listen to this. 190 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 7: Hey, Cleary buff I just want to let you know 191 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 7: that my family is all pretty much Democrat, and if 192 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 7: they were that bad towards me, I would probably just say, well, 193 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 7: that's I guess your choice. If you can't handle me 194 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 7: being who I am, I guess you don't love me anymore. 195 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 7: And it would be very sad to find that out, 196 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 7: but there'd be no skin off my nose because I, 197 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 7: unfortunately do not put up with the craziness anymore. 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Buck, I just I want to reiterate this. 199 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is the week after next right, We're about sixteen 200 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: days away from Thanksgiving if I'm doing my math right. 201 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: The idea that any of you would end lifelong relationships 202 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: over the election is so crazy to me that I 203 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: would just submit to you that while you might disagree politically, 204 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: don't give up your lifelong relationships, don't give up your 205 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: lifelong friendships. And I know many of you are not 206 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: making that choice, but I just non partisan basis. I mean, 207 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: I was upset when Joe Biden won. The idea that 208 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to Thanksgiving because somebody voted for Joe 209 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: Biden is crazy to me. Clay Travis here, Happy Thanksgiving 210 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: from all of us at the Clay Travis and Buck 211 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: Sexton Show. If you are out there and you would 212 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: like to confess to us that you lied to family 213 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: and actually voted for Trump. Could be husband, could be, wife, 214 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: could be mom, dad, whoever it is, brother, sister, we 215 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: are offering you today Confessions eight hundred and two eight 216 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: two two eight eight two. Now let me say this, Buck, 217 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: I do not want people to call in and say 218 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,359 Speaker 2: I didn't lie. When I am asking for one particular 219 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: type of caller, I don't need to hear from you 220 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: that you did the opposite of which I am asking 221 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: for callers. So I do not want people to call 222 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: in and say I told everybody. There's lots of you. 223 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: There's seventy some odd five million of you, me Buck, 224 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: that all said hey, we're going to tell you exactly 225 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: how we're voting. I'm talking about people who want to 226 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: make the confession to just a few million of our 227 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: friends out there. You can use a pseudonym, you can 228 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: use a alias as you see necessary. Several people out 229 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: there want a weigh in. I was saying, you can 230 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: have absolution. You can confess from people out there. Walker 231 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: in Virginia, you lied to your neighbors about who you 232 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: voted for. 233 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 4: Why, Oh it was painful. I live in the suburbs. 234 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: Play what else can you do? I mean walking around 235 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 4: with the little Harris time even Harris hats, which is 236 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: a little unusual because who really wants one of those? 237 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: But now I lied to my neighbors. It's my confession, 238 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: but I was honest with my family. 239 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Walker given or given absolution 240 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: confession time voting style. Harry in New York you lied 241 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: to your co workers. 242 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 5: Why Harry, Harry, he's in the office. Maybe he's scared 243 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 5: they could hear him. I don't know where Harry went. 244 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: Darren in Ohio lied to one of your kids. 245 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: Darren, why I. 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 6: He is gay? I mean he hates Trump and he 247 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 6: hates me for being Conservice. 248 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm emotional. 249 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: Well, so let me ask you this. Your son Trump 250 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: was the first president to ever take office supportive I 251 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: mean of gay marriage, supportive of gay rights. Whatever you 252 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: think of Trump, I think the idea of attacking him 253 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: for not being supportive enough of gay people is actually 254 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: totally without any factual basis whatsoever. I mean, a New 255 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: York City Republican tends to be pretty lenient on that issue, 256 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: given the huge gay population. I'm sorry that that is 257 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: going on with your family, But you don't even feel 258 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: like you could tell him that you voted for Trump 259 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: because he believes that Trump doesn't like gay people. Yeah, well, Darren, 260 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: thank you for the call. I actually it really disappoints 261 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: me when I hear those kind of things from family members, 262 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: because Darren's son has bought in Buck to something that 263 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: is completely divorced from reality, and so the fact that 264 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: he would feel compelled to lie to his gay son 265 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: about who he've voted for. I think I saw the 266 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: math from some of the exit polling. Around a third 267 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: of gay people voted for Trump. In fact, I've met 268 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: I bet you have two buck a ton of gay 269 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: people that absolutely love Trump. 270 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: All my Florida based gay friends and I have a 271 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: whole bunch of them. 272 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: All of them, without exception, voted for Trump. 273 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: Now maybe that's just because they're friends with me, but 274 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: I'm just saying a lot of gays for Trump down 275 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 5: here in South Florida, which you love to see it. 276 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 277 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Buck. I posted a poll, and I'm curious. This is 278 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: a fun one. It's Halloween, and I know we're in 279 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: the middle of serious times, but I was curious what 280 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: your answer to this would be. So I am a 281 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: fan of nineteen eighties horror movies. Back in the day. 282 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Back in the day you could watch Nightmare on elm Street. 283 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: You could watch Jason, you could watch Halloween, you could 284 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: watch Chucky. These are nineteen eighties in particular. Yes, which 285 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: was the best nineteen eighties villain from the horror movie genre? 286 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: If I gave you Freddy Krueger, Michael Myers, Jason and 287 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: Chucky as the four options, which is a poll that 288 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: I put up, which would you say was the best? 289 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: I have only seen those movies. I think there were 290 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: like eight of them for each one of those genres made. 291 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 5: I'm not an expert at all on this, Unlike action movies, 292 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 5: where I'm a world class expert. I am like a PhD. 293 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: In eighties action films. Yes, I can do entire scripts 294 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: from those movies. If it has Van Dam, Dolph Lunkern, Schwarzenegger, 295 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: et c. I can do the whole thing in my head, 296 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: wo say of the horror genre. Michael Myers from Halloween, 297 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 5: I think is the most iconic, followed by Jason. 298 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: I was never a Freddy Krueger guy. Personally. 299 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 5: I didn't really get that one. 300 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: I would have gone Freddy Krueger number one. Overall, the 301 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: voters have gone with you and Michael Myers. Michael Myers 302 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: is getting forty three percent of the vote as the 303 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: best nineteen eighties horror movie. Villain out there? What is 304 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: the scariest movie you've ever seen? Oh, that's a great question. 305 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 5: It is a great question. 306 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: I would team. 307 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: You can also the Wayho New York while Clay's figuring 308 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: it out, so you can whisper it in my ear 309 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 5: via the mic here or via the headphones. 310 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 2: What do you think the best one is? What do 311 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: you got for me? 312 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 6: Clay? 313 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: I would probably go with the Oh, Man, I watched 314 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: all of it, and I'm gonna forget what they're called now, 315 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: the UH the ones about the Catholic priests who will investigate. No, 316 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: not the exercise standing alone. That's really good, but they're 317 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: these are more recent and they go out and they 318 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: basically investigate all of these paranormal activities. It's a husband 319 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: and a wife, so I guess he's not a Catholic priest, 320 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: but he is a is a religious figure, not a 321 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: good one. Yeah, well, but maybe there's an exception if 322 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: you're doing the uh, doing those investigations. And the title 323 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: of these movies is right off the edge of my tongue, 324 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: and I'm sure I'm getting blown up, right now, but 325 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: Annabelle is the doll that is in them, and there's 326 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: an entire idea. 327 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: Does anyone know if I have no idea what Clay's 328 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: talking about with this series? What is the series he's 329 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 5: talking about? The conjuring, the conjuring. 330 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: The conjuring movies I think are the scariest because Buck 331 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: to me, like I understand the concept of hey, you're 332 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: like a crazy clown and you're walking like it was 333 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: a scary movie recently came out. Sure, that's spooky to me, 334 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: but the way scarier parts are where you have like 335 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: the devil possession, like someone engaging in some sort of 336 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: behavior like that really gets me. 337 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 5: I mean, our friend Sean Ryan on his podcast long 338 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: form podcast was doing great, so many people listening. He 339 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 5: had on a guy who Catholic priest who does exorcisms. 340 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 5: Recently yes, saw that and talked about his everyday Carrie, 341 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 5: which included a piece of the True Cross. Very interesting stuff. 342 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: I would say The Exorcist is still the scariest movie 343 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: that I've ever seen, although there's a director who's pretty 344 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 5: in vogue these days who did that, who did The Northman. 345 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 5: He also did a movie, The Witch, that was the 346 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 5: last horror movie that I have seen I think it 347 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: was twenty eighteen maybe, and I'm like, I decided I'm done. 348 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 5: I actually, I actually won't sit through a horror movie 349 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: now I won't. You know, I'm out. I'm out what 350 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: my wife won't do. Horror movies I love like the 351 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: scream movies. Those are really fun. I've watched them with 352 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: my Those are really to be Those are really more 353 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: like murder mystery movies, those screen movies. They're not really horror. 354 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: It's not like monsters or you know, possessed people. It's 355 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: just like lunatics. 356 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lunatic killer. By the way, the two guys 357 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: two people, ed Edward Warren and his wife Lorraine Morgan, 358 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: are the characters that are played and in the Conjuring movies, 359 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: and it's basically demonic possession, the stories of them trying 360 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: to go out and solve all of these paranormal activity, 361 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 2: demonic possessions, and so they started in twenty thirteen. I 362 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: was on a plane flight buck I think it was 363 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: like cross country or maybe may have been. I was 364 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: going to England or something, and it's rare that I 365 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 2: have just tons of time, and I watched three straight, 366 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: conjuring movies on an airplane, which I would think is 367 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: probably one of the least threatening places you could be 368 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: because everybody's been screened, you know, like there's there's no 369 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: like the real danger by and large on an airplane, 370 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: as the plane could go down, but not that crazy 371 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: things are gonna happen on the airplane. 372 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 5: I did used to watch in the eighties. I think 373 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: they're they're horror, but in the horror thriller genre. Do 374 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: you remember a movie called Critters. Oh, there were guys 375 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: from space and they have like laser guns and the 376 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 5: little monsters that eat people like they used to make 377 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 5: these used to make these crazy movies like in Red 378 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: the little spines they would shoot at people. I can't believe. 379 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: I used to watch this crap. 380 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: It was on like Channel eleven in New York City 381 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: and I would watch these bizarre movies like that. And 382 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 5: I saw on HBO The Hills Have Eyes. I do 383 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 5: not recommend that that was traumatizing. I would never I 384 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: would never watch that again. 385 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 2: You know what used to get me back when I 386 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: was a kid buck Unsolved Mysteries. When the Unsolved Mysteries 387 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: music came on. If you were a kid at Home 388 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: by yourself. That was I think the creepiest show that 389 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: you could watch on like NBC or whatever. It was 390 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: regular television by far the scariest one out there, beyond 391 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: a shadow of a doubt. But I bet a lot 392 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: I can. My mentions have exploded a lot of you 393 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: are agreeing with me on the conjuring series of movie. 394 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: Where are you on vampires and Dracula stuff? I still 395 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 5: a pull that four timelessness and entertainment value bram Stokers. 396 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 5: Dracula is actually one of I think it's one of 397 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: the greatest novels of all time, which I know people 398 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: flip out about, but I'm like, no, it's it's amazing. 399 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: It's incredibly well written, and it created the whole vampire genre. 400 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Francis Ford Coppola's version of Dracula is actually 401 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: incredibly well done. That was Keanu Reeves, right, isn't it 402 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: in Matt Gary? 403 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 5: No, No, that was you're talking about the one with the 404 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 5: British guy Gary Oldman. 405 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gary old like that nineties. Keanu Reeves was the 406 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: young guy who was like coming up to that like plain, yeah, Yeah, 407 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: that's that one is really well done. I like, but 408 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: I like my vampires, as my friend Mike Leech rest 409 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: in Piece used to say, not the MOPI vampires like 410 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: the evil actually scary vampires, not like the romantic team, 411 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, vampires which have taken over. 412 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 5: This is also where I gotta say I got thrown 413 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: a word from a man Wesley Snipes and Blade, which 414 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: I always talk about, uh because underrated. Hey, it's Buck 415 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: Sexton from our home to yours. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving 416 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: from the Clay and Buck Show. This is a surprise 417 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 5: for some of you. But Clay has fantastic dance moves. 418 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: I do. He is true. 419 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: He is a very you know light out there on 420 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 5: his feet on the dance floor, can make can make 421 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 5: the things happen. And you get a good sampling of 422 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: this with his Trump dance. It's the Clay Trump Dance, 423 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 5: I guess or Clay's version of the Trump Dance. And 424 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: we are asking people to submit videos of their own 425 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: Trump dance. 426 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: We're trying to get everybody in the. 427 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: In the I don't know, the Holiday spirit slash Victory 428 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: Spirit for America. Trump Dance at Clay and Buck on 429 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: x or Instagram if you tag at Clay and Buck 430 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 5: Show us. 431 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: Yes what no, I was just gonna say. I would 432 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: love to see the most inventive locations, the most inventive 433 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: maybe a lot of you with your friends and family 434 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: that are coming together for Thanksgiving and the holiday season. 435 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 2: See if you can entertain us where we look at 436 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: it and we think, my goodness, that's great. So anywhere 437 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: around the world, anywhere with your family members, try to 438 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: be inventive and put your own twist. We'd like to 439 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: see it. I think people will enjoy it during the 440 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: holiday season. And you can tag us at Clay and 441 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Buck with your version of the Trump dance. 442 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, the Trump Dance. I even did a little 443 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: version here with my Crocket coffee and hey, here we go, 444 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: here we go, Trump Dance, Crocket Coffee Trump Dance. So yes, indeed, 445 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 5: the Trump Dance is a source of joy for so 446 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 5: many of us. You know, you really, you gotta like 447 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 5: there's a certain way that he does it the best. Listen, 448 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: no one better than the Trumpster himself. He's the master 449 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 5: of the Trump Dance. 450 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: That is true. 451 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 5: Not everybody Clay is enamored with the Trump dances. A 452 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: little sad, but you know, we gotta just tell it 453 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 5: like it is here over on CNN. Abby Phillip is 454 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 5: not happy to see these athletes step into your realm. Here, 455 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 5: these athletes who knew this Trump dance because that you 456 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: see is political. 457 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: Whereas Colin Kaepernick. 458 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: Taking a knee to denigrate the United States during the 459 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 5: pledge of allegiance national anthem, sorry sorry, national anthem, national anthem. 460 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: That is non that is social justice play. 461 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: This is twenty four places. 462 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 8: It's all a matter of perspective or jerseys. Sports has 463 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 8: never been politics free and they aren't now. And just 464 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 8: as an example, suddenly you're seeing a lot of athletes 465 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 8: doing this. It's their version of Donald Trump doing his 466 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 8: version of Conan O'Brien's string dance, despite looking like Dad's 467 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 8: without much rhythm at a bar mitzvah. Republicans have reveled 468 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 8: in this culture war crossover. To be honest, I'm not 469 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 8: sure people are losing their minds over players doing the 470 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 8: Trump dance on the field. It's fine, but they did 471 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 8: lose their minds when NFL players like Colin Kaepernick did 472 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 8: not take a political stance but took a social justice dance. 473 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 8: There's a distinction between those two things. It is interesting 474 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 8: that there's been this big turnaround. 475 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: Come on, Okay, a few things. 476 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: So, first of all, what if she said I had 477 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: never heard this, that it started with Conan O'Brien. 478 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: This is not a thing that I've ever heard. He's 479 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: not somebody. 480 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: I didn't know that he was a great choreographer of 481 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 5: dancing to begin with. I was unfamiliar with this attribution. 482 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that I don't think has any basis in fact, 483 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: at least not that I've seen. But the idea, first 484 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: of all, that taking a knee during the national anthem 485 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: is akin to a celebratory dance, and that taking a 486 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: knee during the anthem is less controversial or less political 487 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: is crazy talk. The celebrations in the end zone are 488 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: of a wide variety and have been for a long time. 489 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: But taking a knee jury, and so the NFL has said, 490 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: by the way, this doesn't violate any NFL rules, is 491 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: not considered political in nature. And I'm not sure that 492 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: everybody doing the dance is a Trump voter. I think 493 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: it's more likely than not, because you would have been 494 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: exposed to it. But when something becomes trendy, eventually it 495 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: takes on a life of its own, and people are 496 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: doing their own spends on it and everything else. But 497 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick, first of all, is a moron, and I've 498 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time, unfortunately having to talk about 499 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: what a moron he is. But he was denigrating the 500 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: United States and police officers, and I think a lot 501 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: of times this gets lost. He referred to Buck police 502 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: officers as modern day slave catchers. He said that he 503 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: played and practiced in socks that depicted police officers as pigs. 504 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: He said that the NFL was a modern day slave 505 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: auction and that players were slaves. These are three things, 506 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: and they made a Netflix documentary. I can't believe this 507 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: is even real. Buck. I think you remember seeing the 508 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: clip where they had guys standing on the stage as 509 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: NFL draft picks hoping to get paid millions of dollars. 510 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: And it is a bit of a meat market, right. 511 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: You have to prove how strong you are, how fast 512 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: you are. It's a big audition for a multimillion dollar 513 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: job that every one of every race aspires to to 514 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: play in the NFL. They turned that in the Netflix 515 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: documentary into slaves on the auction block, and Kaepernick argued 516 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: that it was basically the modern day version of that 517 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: so to claim that that is not in any way 518 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: political and was just about social justice. I don't know 519 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: if Abby Phillip is poorly informed or also a moron. 520 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a combination of both. But there is a 521 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: joy and an exus uberants in the celebration of the 522 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: Trump Dance, which is designed to appeal to everyone, and 523 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: saying that the NFL is a modern day slave auction, 524 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, is a political commentary that the vast majority 525 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: of people disagree with. And let me just add this, buck, 526 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: nobody begrudges athletes from being able to have whatever political 527 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: belief they want to have. But when you decide that 528 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: everybody has to take note of you during the moment 529 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: of the national anthem, that is different than in a 530 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: postgame press conference saying whatever you think about whatever subject 531 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: under the sun. People might disagree with that, but it's 532 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: very different. They were all so that was all so dishonest. 533 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: I mean, if you showed up at the funeral, I mean, 534 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: remember there was that group the like the Westboro Baptist Church. 535 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, you can. You can be opposed to 536 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: a US war somewhere. It's another thing to show up 537 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 5: at the funeral of service members and say, you know, 538 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 5: horrible things at their funeral, you know, saying like yeah, 539 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 5: you'll get to get away with that and be like, oh, 540 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: it's free speech, Like no, you're a jerk and people 541 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 5: should despise you. NFL players they want to. The reason 542 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: they did it is because you know, people at Kapridick 543 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 5: they're childish, they're babies. Nobody would care what they did 544 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: unless they were being disrespectful. It was a tantrum. And 545 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 5: then to attach social justice to it is pathetic and 546 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 5: I'm glad that I think the American people, by overwhelming majority, 547 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: saw through that crap because people don't really do it anymore. 548 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: And now they're doing the Trump dance. Oh yeah, it'srom fantastic. 549 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're a huge Tim Walls fan, 550 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: you can do Tim Wall's spirit fingers when you score 551 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown in the end zone and. 552 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: Him and looking sprightly is completely within the realm of 553 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 5: what anyone is allowed to do. If you want jazz 554 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 5: hands Tim Walls, you can do jazz hands Tim Walls. 555 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: That's fine. 556 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: If you want to do his awkward leg kick and 557 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: combine it with the jazz hands because you're such a 558 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: big Tim Walls fan, and you happen to be an 559 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: NFL player, more power to you. Remember, after all, Democrats 560 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: told us that Tim Walls was the avatar of masculinity, 561 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: which was going to connect with the young male voter 562 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: and the midwestern, non college educated voter. He was their flashpoint. 563 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: He was there sign of Remember they tried to call 564 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: him coach Walls, so everybody can do that too. 565 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: You know, none of the Wall stuff was surprising when 566 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 5: you knew, I know, people calling him tampon Tim the 567 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: moment you found out that he was putting tampon's in 568 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 5: boys boys restrooms, you know, in schools. No, like, red 569 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 5: blooded American who has the choice about as a policy 570 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: matter to do that would do that. 571 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: That's a weirdo move. So really, and it was funny. 572 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: Remember they tried to say JD. 573 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 5: Vance, who's really the opposite of weird, like just kind 574 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: of an American success story topped the But there's nothing 575 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: weird about JD. 576 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: Evans Kim. They tried. It's just what they always do. 577 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: They tried to accuse. 578 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 5: JD of being what Tim Walls is to throw people off. 579 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 5: It's like if you've stolen something and you say did 580 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 5: you steal the thing? 581 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: Do you remember when the Washington Post reporter said tampon's 582 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: in boys bathroom is actually great. In fact, and I'm 583 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: paraphrasing her, she was like, imagine you're in high school 584 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: and the boy in the classroom you've run out of tampons, 585 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: and he pulls one out of his backpack and hands 586 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: it to you. He would be like the homecoming king. 587 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: And I was like, what sort of say no, come 588 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: on wait? Would see that you didn't see that? Oh 589 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: we got ah