WEBVTT - Great Weekend for White Sox before 2026 All-Star Break

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was originally I didn't want to come out,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a couple of weeks before they'd asked me

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<v Speaker 4>to go.

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<v Speaker 5>I just, you know, I kind of wanted to let

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<v Speaker 5>things play out.

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<v Speaker 4>And really, you know, I'd never been out to the

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<v Speaker 4>Midwest for the most part, and i'd never been out

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<v Speaker 4>to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>I was very hesitant to go out there. I just

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<v Speaker 5>because I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't know what I was getting myself into. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the second that I got off the flight, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Barfield picked me up from the airport.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I I was wide eyed the entire week.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I was there for three days, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was when I was leaving the field h

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<v Speaker 4>after Montgomery's walk off. You know, I told them I

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<v Speaker 4>wish I could have stayed for another week, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole experience, you know, being able to go to

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<v Speaker 4>dinner with gets in bar Field, being able to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I walked, They dropped me off at the hotel right

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<v Speaker 4>after dinner, and I'd sat and I walked around Chicago

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<v Speaker 4>till two am, you know, just trying to understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what it's all about and see everything that has to

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<v Speaker 4>come with it.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you know, the next.

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<v Speaker 4>Day, getting to sit down with Fuller, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>walked again for five more hours before the game, and

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<v Speaker 4>then being able to go to the game, meet everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>see the stadium, meet the players, see the dynamic. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I left, you know, you know the next

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<v Speaker 4>morning and called my agent and told him that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's where I want to be, and you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>he's got to do whatever he can to make it

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<v Speaker 4>work because I know that that's where I want to be,

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<v Speaker 4>and I hope that they feel the same way about me, so,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, being able to work it out on the

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<v Speaker 4>long end, I mean, the tiers were all happy tears.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very excited to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I fell in love with the city while

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<v Speaker 4>I was out there, and I'm just I'm very excited

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<v Speaker 4>to get back.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Chicago White Sox first overall, big Rock Cholowski,

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<v Speaker 1>which you'll be joining the organization and on Sunday along

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<v Speaker 1>with Landon Tomey, who the White Sox selected thirty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>overall throughout the First Bitch on Sunday's game. So quite

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend for both. Quite the weekend for the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox. I'm Josh nel sit alongside Jim Margolis demanding

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<v Speaker 1>Editive Sox Machine and our beat reporter James Vegan who

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<v Speaker 1>is in Philadelphia covering the All Star Game for us

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<v Speaker 1>at Sox Machine. Again, we cannot thank our Socks Machine

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<v Speaker 1>subscribers enough. Thank you for your subscriptions as it allows

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<v Speaker 1>us to send James on the road to be in

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia to cover the games for us. And he just

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to chat with Caleb Botomer, who is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Futures Game in Philly. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>very busy weekend for us at Sox Machine. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with what happened on the field for the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox as they sweep the Sacramento Athletics and in very

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<v Speaker 1>convincing fashion, So they get swept James by the Boston

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox. They only score two runs in those three games.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they turn around and they hold the Athletics to

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<v Speaker 1>just two runs in three games. It really felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox needed a sweep to rinse out the

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<v Speaker 1>bad taste from the Boston series. And as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like statement series wins go, especially as far as Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>how did the clubhouse feel after that big win against

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<v Speaker 1>the Athletics.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they won like a million to two or one,

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<v Speaker 5>and Trystan Peters had a cycle, so they were in

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<v Speaker 5>they were in decent spirits. I would say, it's just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like it's we're looking at this like through

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<v Speaker 5>our lens of like how are the White Sox doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Whereas like Boston is like it's basically the hottest team

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<v Speaker 5>in baseball. Yeah, went and swept the Mets as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it now? Nine straight wins.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe so yes, Wow, like eight of ten when

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<v Speaker 5>they were coming into the White Sox, So what is

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<v Speaker 5>it fortunate sixteen or something crazy? Whereas like the A's

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<v Speaker 5>look like they don't want to be around anymore. The Watts,

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<v Speaker 5>Brent Wibrookers of the season like a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and then Nick Kurtz like, has this you know, Malady

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<v Speaker 5>pop up where he's on the I L and he's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna miss the All Star Game, And you had Sean

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<v Speaker 5>Burke openly saying like, yeah, lineup's a little different. Basically

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<v Speaker 5>just challenge everyone. Heaters like trying to make sure the

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<v Speaker 5>bases are clear when Soda Shrum and Langliers are up,

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<v Speaker 5>but otherwise I'm good. You say that I'm good part.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's like the subtext from it, Like this became

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<v Speaker 5>like a lineup that's pretty short in terms of like

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<v Speaker 5>things he really has to worry about. So like in

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<v Speaker 5>some respect, you know, people complain about a team like

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<v Speaker 5>playing people can plain about a team in any form,

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<v Speaker 5>but like you know, playing down to their competition. The

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<v Speaker 5>White talks doing the opposite of that, Like they got

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<v Speaker 5>beat by a team that's plain amazing and they crushed

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<v Speaker 5>the team that wish the break was two weeks earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, they certainly look better. Uh certainly, like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of like the way Martin, Martin and Burke

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<v Speaker 5>like wound up with the same first half so to speak,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, because they existed. I think Burke has a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more innings, but like they came to it

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<v Speaker 5>in different ways. But Martin pitches in that you know

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<v Speaker 5>series where they look out of sorts because he's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of you know, dragging to the finish and Burke is like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, pitching out his mind. Uh to get to

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<v Speaker 5>the end. You kind of had like your your starters

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<v Speaker 5>who were you had kind of a flip in the

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<v Speaker 5>namack though, I've no Schultz had to kind of get

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<v Speaker 5>right outing with the A's as well. But yes, it

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<v Speaker 5>looked good. Yes they got Murray coming back. Yes that

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<v Speaker 5>it was like provided to Jolton. You know, they had

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<v Speaker 5>you know, two guys added to the All Star team

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<v Speaker 5>and that was like a lot of excitement and momentum

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<v Speaker 5>as well. There's also like a you could just say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>they paid played the team that's playing great, you know

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<v Speaker 5>the hawk else when you play the line they played

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<v Speaker 5>playing awful and you know it's bad and Jonah him

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<v Speaker 5>who was basically cut from the Rangers for not hating

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<v Speaker 5>enough for a catcher last years, like clean up in

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<v Speaker 5>half of these games, and they just look like they

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<v Speaker 5>can't mount anything or really stop anything. Even like JT

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<v Speaker 5>Gin on Sunday, it's having a really good year. I

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't question that there's ability there, but you watch him,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like this guy is like misfiring wildly with ninety one.

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<v Speaker 5>This doesn't seem like it's going to work, and then

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<v Speaker 5>sure enough it doesn't. So it it feels like maybe

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<v Speaker 5>they haven't swung so much in the week as much

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<v Speaker 5>as their competition has.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The White Sox a fifty and forty five, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you compare to where they were at the All Star

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<v Speaker 1>Break last year, Jim, the White Sox are already nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>games better in the standings than they were a year

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<v Speaker 1>ago heading into the All Star Break. So quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few highlights, none bigger than Tristan Peters hitting for the cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim and we talked a little bit about this during

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<v Speaker 1>the live stream when we are leading up to the

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<v Speaker 1>first overall pick, But just how improbable it is for

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan Peters to produce the way that he has for

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox and now he is an All Star.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of this sudden honor for Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>Peters to be part of the American League All Star Team.

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<v Speaker 6>It's surprising on a couple levels. There's just a matter

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<v Speaker 6>that Tristan Peters was acquired for cash by the White Sox,

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<v Speaker 6>and usually those deals don't work for them in any

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<v Speaker 6>meaningful sense. So the fact that he's gone from afterthought

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<v Speaker 6>to even during spring training, more of an extra player

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<v Speaker 6>somebody might see over the course of a season to

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<v Speaker 6>somebody who is suddenly an integral part of everything is

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<v Speaker 6>a shocker. Also, like a shocker that he made the

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<v Speaker 6>All Star team just because he is like kind of

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<v Speaker 6>not a product to wins above replacement, but like everything

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<v Speaker 6>kind of reflects his value. His defense's offense, his doubles

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<v Speaker 6>more than homer power, but he's in a lot of doubles.

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<v Speaker 6>Like everything, He's generating a lot of value in a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of ways. But aside from his average, which is

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<v Speaker 6>over three hundred, nothing really stands out. It's the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's cool that as you see some remnants of

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<v Speaker 6>advanced stats versus traditional stats, counting stats et cetera. That Peters,

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<v Speaker 6>who probably would be largely overlooked were it not for

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<v Speaker 6>wins above replacements in other seasons, just because he has

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<v Speaker 6>six homers because of the platoon situation he found himself early,

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<v Speaker 6>didn't really up the counting stats and like the other

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<v Speaker 6>Triple Crown categories, urban hits, like he's even a little

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<v Speaker 6>late on plate appearances for an everyday player. The fact that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you look at the wins above replacement leader board, especially

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<v Speaker 6>for rookies, and he's snuck up on everybody as they're

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<v Speaker 6>trying to figure out replacements for the All Star team.

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<v Speaker 6>It's cool that somebody like him, who is a well

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<v Speaker 6>rounded player who's contributing to the White Sox in so

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<v Speaker 6>many ways, does get recognized like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, so looking at Peter's stats so far,

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<v Speaker 1>three ZHO one batting average is Jim mentioned Peters has

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty doubles this year, and he's got three triples

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<v Speaker 1>along with his six home runs, thirty six RBIs, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got five stolen bases. I mean, he's never been

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a base Steeler, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would kind of surprise people if Tristan Peters did find himself,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim hitting ten home runs, but thirty five doubles is

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<v Speaker 1>forty doubles within reach. If Tristan Peters gets and used

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<v Speaker 1>to hit for power that he has in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months.

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<v Speaker 6>Yea possible, especially since there's nobody really challenging is playing time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other big highlight on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 1>for the White Sox was the return of munatakamer Kami.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the greatest series, James, you mentioned that the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why the White Sox wanted to bring him up for

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<v Speaker 1>this series before they all start break was to break

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<v Speaker 1>some rust. There's a lot of rust for munatakamer Kami.

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<v Speaker 1>He struck out seven times, he was one four eleven

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. He did walk twice. He did have an

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<v Speaker 1>RBI on Friday. You were there on Friday. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>was going on for the White Sox on Saturday. How

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<v Speaker 1>did munatakamer Kami look to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, rusty, like on time, Like you know, not

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<v Speaker 5>that he doesn't have swing and miss on the fastballs

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<v Speaker 5>of his own when he's rolling, but like he certainly

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<v Speaker 5>was doing that a lot in a way, like you

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<v Speaker 5>look like not quite up to speed, like this is

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<v Speaker 5>his fifth game in the last like six weeks thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's funny, like him talking about the home run derby,

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<v Speaker 5>He's like basically saying, like, the invitation was on the

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<v Speaker 5>table for a while and I was on board, and

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<v Speaker 5>really the only question if I could do it was

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<v Speaker 5>if I got back off the IL before the All

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<v Speaker 5>Star break. So in terms of like motivation to get

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<v Speaker 5>him back, like he wanted to do this thing, like

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<v Speaker 5>he immediately said yes, and you know the added incentive,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, him clearly being in line to be an

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<v Speaker 5>injury replacement for the All Star Game. As another thing

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<v Speaker 5>about being back off the IL, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he wants to be here, like he certainly he's I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even think it's like is it a selfish thing?

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<v Speaker 5>But it's like he came to the US to like

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<v Speaker 5>basically try to conquer this league, to try to test

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<v Speaker 5>the skill. So being part of the showcase, I think

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<v Speaker 5>to him as part of what he's doing here, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>more so than it's you know this the way we

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<v Speaker 5>see it as like a crowning achievement of a career

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<v Speaker 5>for like a domestic player. So I think some of

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<v Speaker 5>it was like, yeah, let's get some real games in

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, he's healthy. It's been six weeks. He

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<v Speaker 5>got cleared, he ran the bases, and he got through

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<v Speaker 5>like full game fine, but not that like he's using

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<v Speaker 5>these games to get up to speed for the All

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<v Speaker 5>Star Game. But like if he was going to do

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<v Speaker 5>this because he'd be healthy, buy it, he'd want to

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<v Speaker 5>actually like play a little bit and face the live pitching.

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<v Speaker 5>So maybe the positive thing is like the White Sox

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<v Speaker 5>scored a bunch of runs granted against the pitching staff

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<v Speaker 5>that I want to use euphemisms for not wanting to

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<v Speaker 5>be around and not actual terms, but a team that's

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<v Speaker 5>looking pretty run down.

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<v Speaker 6>Looking like the White Sox we've seen, like we've seen

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<v Speaker 6>White Sox teams like that of just crossing days off

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<v Speaker 6>the calendar.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was doom scrolling recently and I saw it

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<v Speaker 5>came across as someone who was sharing the clip from

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four Lenny and getting hit by the practice throw. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he seemed like a notch above those vibes, but like

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<v Speaker 5>not not many. I don't know what a point it is,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's distracted by so much of the a's are struggling.

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<v Speaker 5>But the positive is that, like, hey, the offense tick

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<v Speaker 5>back up again. It was very worrisome against Boston just

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<v Speaker 5>to see them kind of get you know, stopped like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't because they got murra COMI back that what

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<v Speaker 5>they look like when he's operational. Really, when Teal is

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<v Speaker 5>looking like what he was in the second half last year,

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't quite happen. Yet. Teal is clearly better than

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<v Speaker 5>what they were getting from offensively catchers already, just by

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<v Speaker 5>means of getting hits in games. But I as much

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<v Speaker 5>as like, man, here's our a offense, it made it

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<v Speaker 5>and then you know, it's never It's not how baseball works.

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<v Speaker 5>You never get everyone just like hot at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>like David Martin talking about the rotation, like they haven't

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<v Speaker 5>all been hot at the same time at any point

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<v Speaker 5>this year just yet. And it's not a given it

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<v Speaker 5>ever does. But you haven't seen that yet. So theoretically

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<v Speaker 5>hopeful there is still a level that they get to,

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<v Speaker 5>at least in terms of consistency, from getting Murakami, from

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<v Speaker 5>getting Tealed, maybe back up to what we've seen the

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<v Speaker 5>height of their powers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the home run derby helps for Murakami to know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like to hit a home run again in

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<v Speaker 1>a MLB Stadium since it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 6>An, I mean I did think that with him being

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<v Speaker 6>un impressed the final series, like it was proof that, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't say you're ruined him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean this is a team that uh, you know

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<v Speaker 5>has Mike Hastle Massle wearing three hats. I said Hassle

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<v Speaker 5>because of all the hats, and celebrates home runs with

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<v Speaker 5>a sex song. So I don't think Home Run Derby

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<v Speaker 5>gets Murakami's mojo going is like any more any less

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<v Speaker 5>scientific than other things they have going on. They welcome

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<v Speaker 5>all all approaches.

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<v Speaker 2>All three, one, two, six million, Andrew Law made personal

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<v Speaker 2>batsank in Law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a fun Home Run Derby. I do

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that both Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber

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<v Speaker 1>are participating. I think that's a great idea, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the Elstar Game being in Philadelphia. It'd be great. If

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been comparing the two ever since he

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<v Speaker 1>got on this heater for the White Sox and how

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<v Speaker 1>he started Muna Takomercammy and Kyle Schwarber. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>one heck of a final if those two were able

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<v Speaker 1>to make it that far in the derby and of

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<v Speaker 1>course Schwarber is a well seasoned veteran when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the home run Derby, but will be fun to

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<v Speaker 1>see on Monday night for Munatakomerkami how he does in

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<v Speaker 1>the home run Derby. And of course, the White Sox

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<v Speaker 1>returned to action after the All Star break in Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more about that later in the show. With

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<v Speaker 1>all this offense that happened this weekend, Jim, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like whenever sean Berg does start, something fantastic happens

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<v Speaker 1>offensively that overshadows what he does in the mound. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is seven innings, only one earned run, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a home run. Burke didn't walk anyone, he struck out nine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's hitting ninety nine miles per hour with this fastball.

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<v Speaker 1>In his last seven appearances, Sean Burke only has a

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<v Speaker 1>two point nine zero earned run average fifty five strikeouts

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<v Speaker 1>over forty to third innings In his last two starts, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>sean Berg hasn't walked anyone. It's thirteen innings, twenty strikeouts,

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<v Speaker 1>no walks. I have to admit I did not see

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<v Speaker 1>this coming from Sean Burke, and it just feels like

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of race on who is the best starting

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher for the White Sox, and James mentioned that in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment ago. It kind of feels like, right now

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<v Speaker 1>the baton has been exchanged between Davis Martin Sean Burke.

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<v Speaker 1>If the White Sox need to win a game now,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's got to be Sean Burke, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And on one hand, that's probably good just because

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<v Speaker 6>Burke has always been the one who's the better bat misser.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you're looking for somebody to start a postseason game,

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<v Speaker 6>to start a key game, to not be subjected to

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<v Speaker 6>just batted ballock or bad defense or what have you,

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.840
<v Speaker 6>that Burke would be your better bet. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>if you're looking at who's leading this rotation, you rather

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<v Speaker 6>have it be something like Burke. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>he's gone and earned that title with just dominating performances

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<v Speaker 6>and he's really looking like he's feeling it out there

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<v Speaker 6>just the way he's Yeah, I kind of judge it

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<v Speaker 6>by and this is he's speaking of unscientific I like

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<v Speaker 6>watching how pictures respond to strikeouts, like I always like

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<v Speaker 6>Dylan sees how he took his jersey into his pants,

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<v Speaker 6>like very like like he was bothered that he had

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<v Speaker 6>to throw the pitches to begin with. Just you're messing

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<v Speaker 6>in my jersey. I can't wait to get back to

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<v Speaker 6>the dugouts. Have my fit look exactly like I want to.

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<v Speaker 6>I like seeing that. It seems like Burke now that

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<v Speaker 6>he's kind of like just looking at center field after

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<v Speaker 6>striking guys out, just turns his back on him. And

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<v Speaker 6>with challenge fastballs, they're like with really good stuff. He's

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<v Speaker 6>not lucking into strikeouts or he's not living hitters out

0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 6>guests himself. He's challenging him. Like I like that the

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<v Speaker 6>home run that he allowed was you know it was

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<v Speaker 6>to Soderstrum, but like it's you have a lead, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to walk anybody or behind the count, just

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<v Speaker 6>challenge him. He didn't, and he gave him a home

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<v Speaker 6>at that time. But like, for the most part, his

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<v Speaker 6>challenges are working because his stuff, his life. His fastball

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<v Speaker 6>has a lot of hop to it, and then everything's

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<v Speaker 6>playing off the fastball, and it seems like the fastball

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<v Speaker 6>unlocks so many things for him. But you know, he

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<v Speaker 6>spent you know how many years wrestling curveball versus slider,

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<v Speaker 6>versus cutter, and now he's like throwing all three, he's

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<v Speaker 6>throwing the cutter without giving up anything, and now he's

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<v Speaker 6>got two different kinds of sliders, and it just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of all fell into place, and it seems like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>James's written about this with his mechanics and the fact

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<v Speaker 6>that he's you know, if he's throwing ninety nine, that

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<v Speaker 6>means his mechanics are right. If he's throwing you know,

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<v Speaker 6>ninety four, be struggling to hit like ninety six, that

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<v Speaker 6>means everything else is kind of off. And yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 6>been sitting high nineties for a while now, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>based on how he's throwing, this is a guy who

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<v Speaker 6>can lead a rotation even when Davis Martin's better.

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<v Speaker 1>So, James, I don't know, have you gotten any insight

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<v Speaker 1>on how the White Sox could possibly be reshuffling the rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's going to have extra days of rest at this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Davis Martin's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>late addition to the All Star team. If he's not,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about was that it'd be very late,

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<v Speaker 1>be very late, right, but with him needing extra rest

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<v Speaker 1>because he feels gassed. With the way that Burke has

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<v Speaker 1>been throwing could the White Sox Like I, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you soon to be wanting to set your rotation

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<v Speaker 1>up for the postseason, but everybody's got more rest than usual.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Burke start that first game for the White Sox

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<v Speaker 1>after the break?

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<v Speaker 5>It is too soon to start ordering your rotation for

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<v Speaker 5>the postseason to that point, like as far as like

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<v Speaker 5>maximizing who needs the rest. Burke has been saying like

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<v Speaker 5>on off the record repeatedly like I feel great, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>recovering better than any point in my year, and certainly

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<v Speaker 5>like the way like his after his last start, He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to break. I want to keep going.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm rolling like someone even like friendly suggested to him

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<v Speaker 5>like a happy to like, you know, get a few

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<v Speaker 5>days off. He's like no, so like he's in a

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<v Speaker 5>really good spot right now. So like the idea of

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<v Speaker 5>like him being to someone who like seems like the

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<v Speaker 5>most closed mouth in terms of needing to get fed. Uh, sure,

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<v Speaker 5>I would agree with that. The last time I talked

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<v Speaker 5>with both, I spent all my energy geeking out out

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 5>about how Jordan Hicks looks recently. So I did not

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.440
<v Speaker 5>have been looking good in order my bad on that

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 5>I get caught up on my own fascinations. But in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of what you're putting down with, like who looks

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<v Speaker 5>like they are ready to go, I think Burke certainly

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<v Speaker 5>fits that. Bill Anthony cay Is, you know, one be

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<v Speaker 5>pretty consistent, has below all year and certainly has been

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<v Speaker 5>healthy all year and has a pretty good you know,

0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.360
<v Speaker 5>inning space from last season. So I think he's right

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<v Speaker 5>up there with him. But Burkers, you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 5>sitting ninety nine for like six seven innings for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>three four or five starts now, and yeah that you

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<v Speaker 5>feel good about that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone that impressed over the weekend Shane Smith for Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe the White Sox will have an option internally

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to help out with the starting rotation. We'll know more

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<v Speaker 1>about what the what will Vetible wants to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the starting rotation later this week after the All Star break.

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<v Speaker 1>But man Sean Burke has just been on a heater

0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and as far as cap tips, yeah, Jordan Hicks, he

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<v Speaker 1>was lights out again on Sunday and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't throw He threw fourteen bitches James twelve for strikes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his first ten pitches that he threw on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all strikes. Hicks is just throwing one hundred miles

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>an hour past everybody in that athletics lineup. Now, I

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.160
<v Speaker 1>know you mentioned a few times already. Yes it's the

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<v Speaker 1>a's But is there like a different mentality for Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Hicks right now where he's just going to moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>just challenge hitters with velocity.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, it's a mechanical thing, so okay, mentality comes from

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 5>that and the confidence and whatnot. But they he was

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 5>lower arm slot earlier in the year and like they

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 5>were like he was really excited about that, Like this

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<v Speaker 5>feels more natural. This is what they think is going

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<v Speaker 5>to like, you know, give me more sink But clearly

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 5>we saw the results were right there, like he have

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<v Speaker 5>some like his first thing and you come out bee

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<v Speaker 5>hundred that I would like probably if you brought him

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<v Speaker 5>out for a second time, like you'd probably see him

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<v Speaker 5>dip a little bit, or you weren't seeing one hundred

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 5>every time and obviously spraying the sweeper and he wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>really like using a forur seingmer at all. Is almost

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.119
<v Speaker 5>all sinkers and not to believe the point we saw

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Jordan Hicks, he was not good at the start of

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<v Speaker 5>the season. Most in terms of control. His heart hit

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 5>rate was very low, Like as much as he had

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<v Speaker 5>to like do challenge fastballs, ball behind the count like

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 5>all the time, Like it didn't lead to a lot

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 5>of home runs during a hard contact or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>To his credit, while everything else was kind of blacking off.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he goes on the il as well, so it

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 5>didn't necessarily keep him healthy. So now he's not quite

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<v Speaker 5>as high as he's been in other parts of his career.

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<v Speaker 5>But they're like he thinks he like he wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>go up a little bit higher, and that was like

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 5>feedback they said that they got from him, and they

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<v Speaker 5>tried it out. We're seeing the results, but like to

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 5>break it down, we're seeing the four seemer come back,

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 5>and he thinks it's playing like he's getting right on

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 5>it in a way where it's an effective pitch that

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 5>he's comfortably using out of the higher slot. The sinker

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 5>is sinking less. There is a sacrifice, but it's canceled

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 5>out by the fact that there's now two fast balls

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 5>you have to cover. So like the fact that like

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 5>he's getting a little less drop on it is counteracted

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 5>by the fact that people are like cheating up with

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 5>their barrels to get on the hiater. He feels like

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 5>the the slider's uh, you know, a bit more later

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 5>action and getting whiffs and obviously he's you know, I

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 5>think he's walked one person since coming off the il

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.640
<v Speaker 5>so in the zone rates are pretty similar, but zone

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 5>rates aren't really would tell you what walk he's getting

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 5>out accounts he's able to attack the zone. It looks

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot better. And you know, his last outing, he

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 5>hit one on one point six max out like the

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 5>he felt like he was at him and through the

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.959
<v Speaker 5>process even without like not hitting it that it wasn't

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't getting to his top velo because he didn't

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 5>feel good or you didn't have health. He felt that

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 5>was in there and now we're seeing it in there.

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 5>Like he it one on one point six gets rounded

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 5>to one o two on the you know broadcast. But yeah,

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 5>I think he gotta. I think that's a gimme territory.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 5>If you're hitting one on one point six, that you'r

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 5>your best velow is back. You know, one on one

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 5>one oh five would be great. But he didn't promise

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 5>that he thought or like he's at one hundred and

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 5>one oh one again and it looks like he's doing that.

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 5>And you know, the basic file up question I asked

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 5>that the bow van Venables, like Jordan Hicks has pitched

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 5>in leverage before, he's done a little bit of closing

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.239
<v Speaker 5>even before. Like doesn't this like they pitched him in

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 5>the six and e of a blowout again, which the

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 5>last came in the first half. I don't know how

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 5>much you can really assign like roles to that too much,

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 5>Like doesn't a Hicks that looks like this reinsert himself

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 5>into your leverage group and that's not to be Oh,

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 5>the real trade deadline addition is Jordan Hicks pitching well again,

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, the real freedom is the friends we met

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 5>along the way something like whatever, Like I wouldn't say that,

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 5>doesn't this guy like insert himself into this leverage mix

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 5>where we're talking about this is you know, more than

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 5>just Sir Anthony Demingez trying to get him back and

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 5>then Sewan Newcomb, Grant Taylor and Brian Hudson and then

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 5>the rest is kind of mixing him matching where you

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, see a fit or could match up the

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 5>works for it. So they have generally been like, yeah,

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 5>why not. We certainly explore that we haven't necessarily seen

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 5>and maybe there hasn't been the best opportunity for it.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 5>They've either been not scoring at all so they're trailing

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 5>against Boston or obliterating the Athletics, So the second half

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 5>will really show it. But I think it has to

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 5>be like we're all seeing this. I think it has

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 5>to be tested at some point.

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sir. Anthony Dominguez also pitched another scoreless outing for

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the White Sox, so if those two can get back

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>on track, that definitely helps out the end of the

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>bullpen for the White Sox. Additional cap tips so the

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive side. Brady mcgomery went two for four on Sunday,

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>hit a home run and drove in for RBIs. Jim,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we just continue to rave about Miguel Vargus

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>five for twelve this weekend, three doubles and a home

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>run and three RBIs. I'm just we're running out of

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>things to say, but we have to do our due diligence.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>They'll tip our cap to him, because it's like, again,

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>so much happened this weekend. It's like, oh, by the way,

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Miguel Vargas almost hit for five hundred, and he had

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>four extra base hits in this series.

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the home run was off a position player, but

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 6>he's had so many warning track flies or just missed it,

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 6>or you see like the follow through and from the

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 6>center field camera or briefly optimistic until you see like

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 6>the head slump right before the camera cut and you

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 6>realize like, oh, you didn't get enough of it, and

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 6>it goes like three hundred and forty feet, so he

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 6>left center. So he's had enough of those, I think

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 6>to where he could take a position player just throwing

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 6>junk and go to town just to get the homer

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 6>that he missed from previous swings and make up for it.

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, the other hits were valid, slash key important,

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 6>driving the ball, adding runs on the board, adding them

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 6>to his stats. All good.

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>And on Saturday, Chase By drought of the game winning

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>hit his Cols Montgomery scored in first base. It was

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the only run scored. Drafts RBI double was clutched and

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Bennett, and he went two for seven. He had

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 1>two doubles and he walked twice, drove in four. He

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>scored four runs. So when Venettendi got on base, he

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>was scoring. So great weekend for the White Sox. Again

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>they are fifty and forty five heading into the All

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Star break and again those All Star festivities happening in Philadelphia.

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>But also this weekend was the Major League Baseball Draft,

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and if you follow us on Soxx Machine, we've been

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.959
<v Speaker 1>covering this draft every week since mid February. We've been

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>posting a lot of video content. More will be coming

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>your way as the MLB Draft is finally over. The

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>White Sox had twenty one picks in the twenty rounds

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and in the end, James Vegan I spent all this

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>time and we knew back in December he's gonna be

0:28:56.280 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Rock Schlowski at landed Toby and look what happened and

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>landed to me with the first two picks for the

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>White Sox. You got a chance to chat with Rock,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and we heard Rock at the beginning part of this podcast,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and it really sounds like until like mid June when

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>he came to Chicago for the first time, he was

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>still uncertain about the White Sox. But it was that

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess recruiting trip him staying with the White Sox

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days that not only did it convince

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the White Sox that Rock was the direction, but also

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>convinced Rock that this would be a good spot for him.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, we have now demonstrated value of their

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 5>big week against the Dodgers and Braves that they apparently

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 5>sold Rock Scholowski on the organization during the process, you know,

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 5>he talked about the team atmosphere like I feel like

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 5>I've been hearing more and more initially organically and now

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 5>they all say it and they are self sustaining, but

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 5>like they refer themselves as like a college atmosphere in

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 5>the club house in terms of kind of the interpersonal

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 5>connection and certainly like the emphasis on like scrappiness and

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 5>like these hard nose plays, and you know, almost to

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 5>a degree, probably their celebrations they aren't like all like

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 5>doing helmet taps or anything like that, but it feels

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 5>like that's not far off from their dugout at this point.

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 5>So he mentioned liking that, Like I asked him, like,

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 5>especially because like he had such a central leadership role

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 5>on the on UCLA, like is this how you'd want

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 5>You're like, you're is this what you tried to like

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 5>facilitate And he seemed to like vibe with that. But

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 5>for me, my angle was obviously him mentionally like how

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 5>much he you know, connected Ryan Fuller, And it was

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 5>like very like, what's it like New York Times wedding

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 5>page meet cute description, like it was supposed to be

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 5>a forty five minute lunch, but then they found themselves

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 5>talking for hours sort of saying, but the larger takeaway

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 5>is that you have and I think it's unique, and

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, probably in a moment where we're less inclined

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 5>to trust what the white socks are doing, maybe troubling

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 5>how much she's like, I don't how often do you

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 5>hear first overall pick where they're talking about fixing a swing,

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 5>both surely repeatedly, not like it wasn't even Fuller the

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 5>one doing it, but like gets and Shirley talking about like,

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 5>we really think their offense components that we can improve,

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 5>and the part of them being willing to say that

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 5>so openly, where you know it's even like kind of

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 5>known that they're going to be altering a two strike approach,

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 5>if not junking it entirely already, is because they got

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 5>so much buy in from him about what plan they presented,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 5>and to some degree, like that's the way the wind

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 5>has been blowing for a while. You need people you

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 5>bring in the organization to be down with what your

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 5>player development plan is. It just feels new for the

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 5>White Sox to be like one in tune with that,

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 5>but also like impressing people or getting comments on how

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 5>they're pressing people with it. So I think, obviously time

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 5>will tell, and you know you, we probably had our evaluation.

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 5>That's certainly heard from other scouts and other teams that

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 5>like liked Emerson more. But at least their process seems

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:17.479
<v Speaker 5>more defendable in a way. Even if this feels like

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 5>the draft class, like a White Sox front office from

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 5>twenty twelve would pick where it's the I was the

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Hall of Famous son and the college the super polished

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 5>college favorite that everyone said was the number one pick

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 5>the whole time. It seems like who they would have picked. Yeah,

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 5>like back in like old baseball perspective days, we'd like

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 5>do free agent predictions and then compare it to Randy

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 5>the random number generator, which was just an algorithm that

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 5>picked the team, and Randy usually outperformed us a little bit.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 5>I feel like, Josh, you could like, did all this

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 5>work and all this like background to have this understanding

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 5>of the class and like median score Collar probably would

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 5>have like you couldn't outperform them, You couldn't match them, maybe,

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 5>but like there's no like you're their accuracy with the

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 5>first two picks, you could you could not hope to outperform.

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I get it was worth it then, Jim to

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>go to Arlington, to go to Omaha, to go out

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to the suburbs of Chicago, to stop at Marriot Catholic

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to watch Land and Tony, and stop at the original

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Rilios to bring back my wife her favorite pizza in

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the area. It was all worth it for us at

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Socks Machine to put in all this effort.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 6>Stick about how much money you saved us with.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Photos and videos and yes, yes that's true. Yeah photos,

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they're not.

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 6>We not have to use tokens for our photo wire

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 6>nor binding b roll. He took care of all of that,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 6>So thank you.

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>You are very welcome. Well, it is something that you

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>know I wrote Jim. You know the cases for in

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>cases against what James mentioned was the case against rocks

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Zlowski is that he is not as polished offensively as

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we thought. Last December But with James's reporting and what

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>he heard from like White Sox personnel and the front office,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Mike Shirley and Chris gets about the adjustments that they

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>want to make with Rock. You pay attention to the

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>minor leagues every single day, and we don't know yet

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>podcast listeners where Rock is going to be and when

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he will start his minor league career with the White Sox.

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like this is something that we will

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>have to pay attention to, is how is he doing

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>when he is facing two strikes and how he is

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>faring when he's facing much better pitching. If I had

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the guess, I'm sure it's with Winston Salem and Hia

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>initially to start. Maybe you give him a little bit

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of a leash because he's joining a minor league team

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>in August and we wait to see how he's really

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>faring to start twenty twenty seven. But at least we

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>can all identify now what the White Sox are trying

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>to work on with him, and that's far easier in

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, to see on how he transitions from college

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>to professional baseball knowing what we're supposed to be looking

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 1>at on the adjustments that they want him to make.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think there's enough noise or weirdness with college

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 6>players like pro debuts to where you don't put a

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 6>whole lot of stock in what he does. If he

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 6>goes to Winston Salem for the rest of the year,

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 6>I think I'd really be judging what he does after

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 6>a full off season of work. I think he should

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 6>be able to work with White Sox coaches over the winter,

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 6>like even if there is lockouts, because I don't think

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 6>he's subject to it if I have it right, So

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 6>you know, they should be able to, you know, have

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 6>some off season consultation and a normal winter in that regard,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 6>and then go to an affiliate in April, and that's

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 6>probably when i'd start judging him. But yeah, no, it's.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 6>I think the work that you did in terms of

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 6>like comparing him versus Grady Emerson versus bon Lackey, like

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 6>that's going to be valuable down the road no matter what,

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 6>just for you kind of the historic perspective as we

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 6>evaluate this draft class, you know, two three, five years

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 6>down the line of just what were people thinking at

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 6>the time, how were these people seen at the time,

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 6>And then you know the fact that you said that

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, I don't know if I was approached like

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 6>it might have to work on it. Then you have

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 6>Mike Shirley and you know Chris got saying like, yeah,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 6>it's got to work on it. Like all right, at

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 6>least I'm not crazier. At least you know, they're not

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 6>trying to sell something that that I was seeing that

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 6>we're setting off my alarm. So I think everybody, you know,

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 6>even if you'd liked Emerson more for that particular pick,

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 6>I think everybody can come away satisfied seeing the same

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 6>thing and just having either different confidence or just you know,

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 6>they have me maybe some internal confidence based on just

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 6>what they know, you know, in discussions amongst themselves under

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 6>the hood, et cetera. You know what they can do

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 6>to go about it, and all the conversations they had

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 6>before the pick about how open he is to it,

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 6>Howard I got heard it work in the WABS.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:01.360
<v Speaker 5>My boss doesn't believe me.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Ake in Law has over one hundred attorneys and stuff

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 2>ready to work for you. If you've been hurt on

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the job in a car accident or suffer the medical mistake,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 2>call three one two six million.

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Well out of the twenty one players selected, and we're

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>writing recaps on all the picks that the White Sox

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have made on soxmachine dot com. So if you're busy

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>this weekend with family vacations and you're just catching up again,

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>go to soxsmachine dot com and read as far as

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>our retire covers them will be draft. We also have

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>other videos as well. I cut together thanks to James

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to get the interviews with Chris Getz and Rock Schaalowski,

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>getting both of them to talk about the journey and

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>how the White Sox and Rock Shallowski ended up knowing

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that they were a great fit for both the White

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Sox and Schelowski himself. You can check out that video

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>again on YouTube dot com Slash Sox Machine. But out

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of all the lawyers that were drafted and getting a

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>chance of being the zoom conversations with Mike Shirley James,

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>which player or players are you intrigued and who the

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>White Sox drafted over the weekend.

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 5>I am either cheating or being selfish. I am saying

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Wine Gardner because I've seen White Gardener. He was at

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 5>Super sixty and he was like they a lot. It's

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 5>all like seeing them collect measurables and a lot of

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 5>it is like how important is this? Like you know,

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 5>you watch like certainly like the extreme ends or the

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 5>like the you know of the sixty yard dash. You

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 5>know you kind of notice it a little bit, but

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.959
<v Speaker 5>like you watch like a bunch of guys like run

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 5>fifty times, like over and over again, or like or

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 5>even try to rerun times to like try to bump

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 5>it up the vibe. You're like, what are we doing?

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 5>Is this really? Or seen in field drills of guys

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 5>who aren't at stick where or just watching them hitpp

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 5>and like it doesn't necessarily like you can see them

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 5>like smoke the ball a bunch of times, but are

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 5>you really like seeing how much their ability to move

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 5>the barrel across his own from from coach pitching, so

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 5>the shortcoms but through that Winegardner was just like, well

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 5>look at that little freak move, Like that guy is

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 5>super fast. He's one of like the fastest guys in

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 5>the certainly in the dash. But just like you do,

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 5>like everything he was doing it was like at higher

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 5>speeds and it was like kind of like he was

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 5>gangling away where like you could see like projection in it,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.720
<v Speaker 5>but also just made like the way he moved around

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 5>like a little weird, just like weird looking, and so

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 5>like he caught my eye. He didn't necessarily like oh,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 5>this guy's like super refined or like close or like

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 5>polished or anything like watching like Santarelli take BP or

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 5>something like that, but it stood out and wait like

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.439
<v Speaker 5>it was an interesting project, and like the round it's

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 5>at certainly is like in that realm of like I'm

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 5>trying to think of the right name. Is it James Beard?

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 5>It was the Speeds there I always where like am

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 5>I just saying the cookbook? Yeah? Together? And then James

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 5>was fourth round? Right, this this is obviously later around,

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 5>but it feels like what if you just got like

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 5>a really toolsy, fast guy, like someone who looks like

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 5>a physical freak kind of bit you think of them

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 5>more as like how they convert them, you know, on

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 5>the football field, as like they know their return punts

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 5>or something like that, or in basketball like they're they're

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 5>all loose balls and hustles or something like that. They

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.919
<v Speaker 5>obviously have some confidence and it's almost like I want

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 5>to say, Ryan Fuller is like Pucci, but like there's

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 5>some in all the picks they like, especially in a

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 5>position player. You it's the logical question you want to think,

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 5>like what does Fuller think of this? And that was

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 5>like an example where Schillery pull it out like they

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 5>think they can do something with this hit tool, which

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 5>is what the fact that the one thing that's kind

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 5>of missing that makes everyone feel like this is a

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:50.720
<v Speaker 5>little scary prospect. They kind of have to be pretty

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 5>high on him to have him be one of the four, uh,

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, prep picks that they went for. But in

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 5>terms of like where there's so much investment in top

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 5>of this draft and obviously they spent a lot of

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 5>value on the top of the draft for this to

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 5>be kind of more of a interesting wild card that

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 5>they played. I think Cameron Johnson's more the what yeah

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 5>early referred to as their lottery ticket, But this is

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of maybe a more souped up version of that

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 5>of like this could be like a fun energic even

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 5>if like the hit tool doesn't come all the way around.

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 5>This could be like an Akunya like presence on the roster,

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 5>where like, if he's not being overstretched offensively for a

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 5>long stretch of time, you'll watch him do stuff like

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 5>steal second and pop up in one move and advance

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 5>that started in a while pitch and be like, ah,

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 5>that's pretty neat to have someone who can do that

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 5>on the roster. That's gonna come in handy and sometime,

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 5>or you know, someone who can absorb a one hundred

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.439
<v Speaker 5>and five min hour line drift. But Coon, you looked

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 5>awesome in the A series, like not like huge offensive

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 5>ceiling awesome, but like, oh, this guy's physically very talented.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 5>I get why they weren't rushing out the door to

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 5>part with this wine garden. You're watching him move around,

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 5>you could get like kind of similar es of like, yeah,

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 5>having someone who's super fast and twitchy could definitely prove

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 5>useful in some form down the road.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>How about you, Jim, which players did the White Sox

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>draft catch here or intrigues you the most?

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Well?

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 6>Mentioning the Fuller connection anytime anybody's taken from Connecticut jumps

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 6>out to me because Aaron Hill, Birmingham meeting coach, also

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 6>from Connecticut. You mentioned that de Pino came from Connecticut

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 6>like his territory, Ryan Fuller territory, and so tenth rounder

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 6>Matthew Boucciero fits that bill, although he struck out like

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 6>sixteen times and twenty six plate appearances in the Draft League,

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 6>so like it's not necessarily huge things. But just I

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 6>see Connecticut, I think, like, Okay, Bradon will come. We

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 6>saw him at Vanderbilt when I tagged along with you

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 6>for that series against LSU, and he kind of reminded

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 6>me of Avi Garcia a little bit, just in terms

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 6>of huge guy, pretty good speed, doesn't look like the

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 6>other players in the field, but I think just more

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 6>swing and miss in the game. I think, like a

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 6>little bit more. The hit tool isn't what Avi had,

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 6>so like that would be a big project, I think

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 6>for him in the twelfth round. I think Vultuko is

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 6>like a good first picture taken the third round. I

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 6>think he's pretty interesting from what I saw, But I

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 6>think like it's kind of cheating to say Land and

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 6>Tony uh in terms of how I'm interested, But I'm

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 6>just I'm fascinated by this whole process that led to him,

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 6>and it's it annoys me to see it people saying

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 6>it's destiny. It's like, it's not destiny. You traded the

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 6>thirty to acquire the thirty fourth pick, You worked for this.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 6>This is not something that just fell into your laps

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 6>like using the nineteenth round, like, oh, I guess this

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 6>is what we want all along. No, it's you specifically

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 6>traded a useful major league player to acquire Land and

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 6>Tony and just the way people are talking about it,

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 6>and just like the mathematical odds are kind of being

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 6>set aside right now because like Gonzalez in his present

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 6>state of being, Yeah, I would say useful major leaguer,

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 6>whether he's a second division starter or more of a

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 6>role player on the bench, kind of filling in different positions.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 6>Fascinated to see how he handled shortstop and pitched on

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 6>a part time role and just kind of rolling bouncing

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 6>around between different positions. Really want to see what he

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 6>does there. But he's basically like a median to good

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 6>outcome for the thirty fourth pick. You know, he was

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 6>taken in fifteenth I think overall when he was taken,

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 6>so like that's a little bit disappointing, especially given how

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 6>he started his pro career, but in the form he

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 6>currently is, like that's you know, for a thirty fourth

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 6>overall pick, it's pretty good that you're getting a useful

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 6>major leaguer. Out of a thirty fourth pick. That's kind

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 6>of a median to good outcome. And they're taking that

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 6>and saying, well, we're rolling it into Land and Tony

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 6>rolling it into a high school pick, even though we

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 6>just saw the value of having Gonzales as a reserve

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 6>bats to fill in if you Murakami goes down, or

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 6>like if Colson Montgomery's back finally acts up too much,

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 6>like Gonzales could fit in there too, And they're taking

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 6>that layer protection away to roll into Tony, And just

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 6>like everybody's cool with it, and I'm you know, it

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 6>struck me as like and you are not. Well, I

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 6>mean like it's just a lot of confidence to be

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 6>putting into a high school pick who's uh, you know

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 6>in the you know, competitive balance round. And yeah, perhaps

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 6>he'll be well equipped to handle it because he's the

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.359
<v Speaker 6>son of a Hall of famer and you know that

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:31.839
<v Speaker 6>he just has that kind of exposure to the game

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 6>and that polish and that just knowledge of how the

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 6>gears of professional baseball work. We saw all like Gavin

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 6>Sheets just in terms of how you know, he had

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 6>this kind of I think composure to him that I

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 6>think served him well during a lot of bad times

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 6>and asked to do what he wasn't supposed to do. Uh,

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.439
<v Speaker 6>And he had this just kind of sense that he

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.439
<v Speaker 6>knew what he was supposed to be saying and doing,

0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 6>and where he was supposed to be and what kind

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 6>of like mindset he was supposed to be in all times.

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 6>And I can see Tony benefiting from the same thing.

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 6>But it's like you're you're banking on Tony being better

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 6>than Jacob Gonzalez when Jacob Gonzalez is an okay outcome,

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 6>And it's just it's a fascinating bets. I think I

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 6>don't necessarily have a Yeah, I guess I have a

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 6>small problem with it, But I guess I have a

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 6>problem with the way. It's like the probabilities aren't necessarily

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 6>being discussed in a way that you're you're you're It's

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 6>it's a gut feel play, I think, in a little

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 6>bit to feel like you can take what you had

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 6>in Gonzalezes and trade up and get somebody who's a

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 6>better long term fits in, a more dynamic player. And

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 6>he might be, but it's a considerable risk they're taking

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:41.240
<v Speaker 6>and doing so I think.

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of like we're gonna trade Derek Hill,

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and then Everson Brera has a concussion, and now it's

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Junior Perez, who still doesn't look like he's major league ready.

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 5>We'll see how Brea took bat in practice this weekend.

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 5>That's good both him and Hayes could go on rehab

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 5>after the All Star Breaker. Think heyes, is a little

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 5>bit ahead of Prayerra, but like okay right after, but

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 5>just since we brought him up as much as Prera immediately,

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 5>like Wiley Coyotes slamming into a wall, like after they

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<v Speaker 5>made a trade of banking on the idea that he'd

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<v Speaker 5>be death feels like some sort of lesson in fate.

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<v Speaker 5>It does seem like he's on his way back.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, with the way that things worked out to

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<v Speaker 1>pick forty one cole pro Sac. The more that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been watching as far as his showcases and especially in

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>how he excelled in those showcase games, reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>like a left handed hitting version of Caleb Bonnemer. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's going to be a catcher. I

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<v Speaker 1>think from the zoom calls that you have with Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Shirley James that the plan is for him to be

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<v Speaker 1>at second or third base. He's got a really strong

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<v Speaker 1>throwing arm, but I was impressed by his left handed swing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's obviously no way that the White Sox could have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten both Tony and pro Sec if they did not

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<v Speaker 1>make that trade with Pittsburgh. So I'm wondering if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the White Sox would have a retort

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<v Speaker 1>to your analysis about trading with Pittsburgh, Jim is, if

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't do that, then we would have just had

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<v Speaker 1>landon Tomi at pick forty one. So we like to

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<v Speaker 1>have both Land and Tomy and Cole pro Sec looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the long term future for the White Sox rather

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>than Jacob Gonzalez and Land and Tomi. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>time will tell whether or not if that decision making

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<v Speaker 1>was flawed, But I do like what I see from Prosec.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit surprised that he got to the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox at pick forty one. Bull Check bulcheck o from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Just watch how he performed. It is yes, it is

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<v Speaker 1>joy bull check go.

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<v Speaker 5>Top so far it has.

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<v Speaker 1>If you he watch his performance against Texas which is

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. Fifteen strikeouts, one walk, Easy to fall in

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:12.760
<v Speaker 1>love with him? Watch his previous start against Mississippi State

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<v Speaker 1>in super Regionals, and you could see where the flaws

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>would be coming. And again I strongly recommend to read

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 1>James's Day one recap because it seems that with these

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<v Speaker 1>college pitchers the White Sox took, We're going to hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot from Brian Vanister maybe in the spring training

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<v Speaker 1>seem effect ships as far as teaching these guys how

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<v Speaker 1>to throw sinkers and these kick changes so they have

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<v Speaker 1>a pitch that's not that could tail away from lefties.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to be pretty key. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do like these college arms that they selected their betting

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<v Speaker 1>on velocity, especially with Camra Johnson will see if he

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<v Speaker 1>signs and il money defending champions with Oklahoma. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to sign with the White Sox. As a junior,

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<v Speaker 1>he could hit ninety nine miles an hour from the

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>left side. The walk rate is astronomically high, so he

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<v Speaker 1>is a project that the White Sox will have to

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<v Speaker 1>work on. As far as control, I'm thinking he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more reliever, but there's so few lefties who

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<v Speaker 1>throw that type of heat of ninety nine miles an

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<v Speaker 1>hour that maybe the White Sox can get some type

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<v Speaker 1>of value out of him in the upcoming draft.

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<v Speaker 6>I will say, seventeenth rounder at kru McChesney saw the

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<v Speaker 6>name Krew, I thought he's from Utah, and he's from Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, well done again. We'll have all the

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<v Speaker 1>recaps as far as the MLB draft and when they

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<v Speaker 1>do sign and we get those signing bonuses, the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox can spend up to twenty one million dollars without

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<v Speaker 1>any penalty as far as the overage when you take

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<v Speaker 1>into consideration that five percent overage over their signing bonus pool.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll know sooner than later how much Rock's going

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<v Speaker 1>to sign for, how much Land and Tony's going to

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<v Speaker 1>sign for. We'll be reporting that on soxmachine dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hope you guys enjoyed all of our coverage

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