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Speaker 3: We're going to detain the mouse. Are did you hear that?

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Speaker 3: So if the cops are taking this very bummed out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for no reason. There was no reason for that.

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Speaker 1: Dean and I am Rory Scovell in the costume of

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Speaker 3: Are you wearing any clothes under that costume?

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Speaker 3: I was looking for additional crimes perpetrated in America's Happiest

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Speaker 1: That that sentence alone is satisfying.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you one. The costume room was the

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That is uh, that felt obvious,

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Speaker 3: No idea if either of those things is true. But

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Speaker 3: This is verbatim. I'm reading his post. They asked me

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Speaker 1: Again, of course, I just picturing it in my mind.

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Speaker 3: I guess I should have been aware that bringing the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, Oh my god, he's been beheaded Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Thus concludes this week's reading of Chuck E. Cheese story.

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Speaker 1: Classic new section of the show, new opening section that

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Speaker 3: I could go on, but I have some other mascots

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Speaker 3: They loved it. They loved the parrot hatching out of

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Speaker 3: His main pirate, Long John Silver, carried a parrot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Right, I think we've given pirates a little bit more

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were friends with birds. Right.

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Speaker 3: By the way, though, can you imagine the first pirate

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Speaker 1: But also, can you imagine being the pirate where the

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, do you want to hear him talk?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm pretty certain you've been drinking a lot of

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Speaker 3: So the first man to where the Pirate Parrot costume

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's always cocaine.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't need to play you the tape.

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Speaker 5: This is Kevin Coach, better known as Pirate Parrot. For

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Speaker 1: Again, this is the same as finding a little baggy

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Speaker 3: But wait, but wait, he wasn't just possessing.

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Speaker 1: Witness, as anybody would exactly. So it seems to me

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Speaker 3: I mean, long John Silver would definitely make him walk

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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, it's more absurd in zany that they

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Speaker 3: Coaches operation leads to the so called Pittsburgh Drug Trials,

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Speaker 3: It caused the commissioner to su spend eleven players, including

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Speaker 1: It's freezing out there.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't take too long.

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Speaker 1: I'd say maybe oh four hours, but the big problem

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Speaker 3: So anyway, Hernandez admits to using coke for three years

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Speaker 3: The Wikipedia about these trials is quite a romp. One pirate,

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Speaker 1: God, that does that make you kind of love baseball

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Speaker 3: So maybe we need to bring back the cocaine news.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Josh, do you want to watch

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Speaker 1: they want.

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Speaker 3: I think when you put it that way, yeah, there's

440
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Speaker 3: no question. Let's bring back the coke.

441
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: When people are like, ay steroids? Uh? Was it not

442
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: fun watching McGuire and so to go at it? Was

443
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: that not a pleasing moment in baseball history?

444
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: Well so, coach who beat out more than one hundred

445
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 3: applicants for that job, told an HBO documentary that fifteen

446
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 3: to seventeen of the pirates on that year's we're using

447
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: the product. And then he was simply a delivery man

448
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: for a freelance photographer Pale, who was the actual dealer. Yeah,

449
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 3: Coach told the documentary, I never stopped to think. I

450
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: thought this will last forever. We'll never get caught. Boy,

451
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: the choices you make are huge. The drugs end up

452
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: taking your dignity away. It's like a quote from one

453
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: of those don't do drugs movies.

454
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of I think it's what Johnny Depp

455
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: said at the end of the movie Blow.

456
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: So I think the lesson here is don't do coke.

457
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: But if you do, make sure you slidehead.

458
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: But if you do, make sure you play baseball.

459
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 3: After the case, Coach moved to California and became a

460
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 3: truck driver. He's still living there today.

461
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's when you definitely you actually need coke

462
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: for that job.

463
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Speaker 3: Okay, we're not going to change sports or move far

464
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Speaker 3: for our next story. We'll just drive three hundred miles

465
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Speaker 3: to the east on the Pennsylvania Turnpike to Philly love It,

466
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 3: home of producer Lane. As well as those coin thieves

467
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 3: and the delco pooper, we.

468
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Speaker 1: Find ourselves in similar locations. There's a lot of crimes

469
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: in certain spots. It's like Florida or Philly. Yeah right now, yeah,

470
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: those are our numbers.

471
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Speaker 3: It's also home of an incredible mascot for the Phillies.

472
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 3: Do you know who that is?

473
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: Isn't it like the weird It's it's got a honking nose.

474
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: It's not even like a thing. I don't know what

475
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: it is though.

476
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 3: Philly Fanatics an a T. I. C. Lane he shows

477
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: there you go, yep, I mean, now that's fun if

478
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: someone's listening overseas. Tried to describe what this thing looks like.

479
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: So it's a green monster legs and arms like normal,

480
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: very Sesame Street esque face with like sort of a horn,

481
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: nose covered in fur at the end, and eyebrowser very

482
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: very Muppet babies kind of vibe wearing a Phillies jersey.

483
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: Well. According to his official bio, he's six foot six,

484
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: weighs three hundred pounds and hails from the Galapagos. But

485
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: his actual origin story and you're pretty much spot on.

486
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: He was a relic from the seventies. The Fanatic was

487
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 3: introduced on April twenty fifth, nineteen seventy eight, replacing the

488
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: prior mascots Philadelphia, phil and Phyllis don't have quite the

489
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: same ring to them, who wore colonial garb and leaned

490
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: into the city's history. So Philly. Obviously the mascot has

491
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: to be way more chaotic than that, and ideally Neon Green.

492
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 3: So the team's owner asked Jim Henson supposedly to come

493
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: up with a mascot, and Jim wasn't available, So you're

494
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: right you mentioned the Muppets is extremely muppety. Instead, they

495
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: went to a New York City company to cook up

496
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Speaker 3: a concept, and they delivered this classic The USA Today

497
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 3: once wrote this, from the top of his Neon green

498
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: head to the tip of his bubble toed sized twenty shoes,

499
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: the Philly Fanatic is every inch the best mascot in

500
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Speaker 3: the business. He's as much Philadelphia as cheese steaks, the

501
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: Liberty Bell, and Rocky Balboa. Sure, one of the most

502
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: popular mascots in all of sports, but he also has

503
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Speaker 3: one more dubious claim. Do you want to guess what

504
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: that is?

505
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: No?

506
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: What is it? He's the most sued mascot.

507
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: Of course, of course.

508
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: Not a thing I made up. A paper by the

509
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: Cardoza Law Review actually stated this, and a team spokesperson

510
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: later took issue, of course, and let me offer the evidence.

511
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety three, the team settled a case for

512
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand dollars after the Fanatic accidentally kicked a

513
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: pregnant woman in the back and shoved her forward during

514
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: a game against the Reds.

515
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

516
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Accidentally keyword, Yeah, I'd have to see video of that.

517
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety five, a seventy two year old man

518
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: won one hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars at a

519
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: jury trial after the Fanatic knocked him down during a

520
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: church carnival. And in nineteen ninety eight, the mascot was

521
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: at the opening of a paint store when he hugged

522
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: a man named Charles Donahue from behind, apparently with a

523
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: bit too much enthusiasm. Donahue claims the hug resulted in

524
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: a ruptured disc and a jury awarded him two point

525
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: five million dollars in damage.

526
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how great is that? Also? Isn't it

527
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: fun to picture that no one's hiring the fanatic? But

528
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: so the fanatic is literally a citizen of this town

529
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: and it's just at these events and also being very

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: on brand with their behavior the whole time.

531
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, or is like, yeah, just trying to blend in

532
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: and maybe he's doing this. He's like, I didn't mean

533
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: to hug him so hard. Look at me. I'm a

534
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: giant breather.

535
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: I could never do anything right. Come on, fanatic, you

536
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: just you're too fanatical. Ah. I pushed that pregnant lady.

537
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: I just was trying to get her to get up

538
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: and start dancing. It's all. It's all from such a sweet,

539
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: full loving place.

540
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just wanted to hug the man.

541
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Lenny of Mice and Men. Lenny is

542
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: the Philly Fanatic.

543
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: I have a fourth case. The most recent one is

544
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: from two thousand and eight, and the fanatic took a

545
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: little road trip to the one of the minor league

546
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 3: affiliates in Reading. That's where seventy five year old Grace Cass,

547
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: who was at the game with the church group, claims

548
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: that the fanatic climbed into the stands as mascots often do,

549
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: and sat on her lap, causing arthritis that ultimately required

550
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: knee replacement surgery.

551
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I could imagine. I could imagine something like that

552
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: sits on you. The costume alone is probably its own

553
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: weird you know material. I don't know and she's seventy five.

554
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: I mean, was seventy five. What's the fanatic doing? Like,

555
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: come on, read, read the room.

556
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: He's probably saying, you think I can see out of

557
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: these eyes?

558
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Phillies are like, God, if we didn't have

559
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: all these lawsuits, we can afford a superstar player. We

560
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: could really put some people on the field.

561
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: So here's what Grace's attorney told a reporter. He was

562
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: aware of how bad this look going after a beloved

563
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: mascot who was just trying to get the fans fired up.

564
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: He said, this is like suing Santa Claus. I'm expecting

565
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: him to come out to a deposition, stick out his

566
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: stomach and tongue at me and not say anything.

567
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: I gotta love that.

568
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: That's a great that's an all time lawyer saying. So

569
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: he's not being a he's not being a dick. He's like, yeah,

570
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: I know how this looks.

571
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

572
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: Speaking of amazing quotes, the guy who wrote the article

573
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: for the Cardos of Law Review, Sports law professor Robert

574
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: Jarvis pointed to the very term and I think you

575
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: made this point fanatic while attempting to explain how this

576
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: neon green bird keeps ending up in. He said, it's

577
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: in his name. He has to walk around and do

578
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: crazy things. He's been around so long, he has to

579
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: keep topping himself.

580
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: I gotta say, not a bad argument. I see it so.

581
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: Hard to argue with that, And I would say our

582
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: takeaway has never turned your back on the fanatic.

583
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch your six and yeah, never be there. Never

584
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: like if you see the fanatic inch away, watch from it,

585
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: watch from.

586
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Afar, or if you're seventy five, you're a target. Yeah

587
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: you're Honestly, After the break, a few more sports mascots

588
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: who got into hot Water. Hello, and welcome back to

589
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: Crime List, the only podcast brave enough to unmask sports

590
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: mascots as the menace to society that.

591
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: They truly are, Yes true.

592
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: Our next story takes us to a new sports basketball

593
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: all Right, as well as to a new city also

594
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: known for unruly fans, the Windy City, Chicago. Yeah okay,

595
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: Next trivia question, do you know the name of the

596
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: Bulls mascot?

597
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: I bet it starts with the bee because sports love alliteration.

598
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: Benny the Bull, Benny the Bull, but but but Benny

599
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: and the Bull.

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00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: So back in two thousand and six, the guy who

601
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: then was portraying Benny Barry Anderson twenty six years.

602
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Old, and he also had to have a be in

603
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: his name. They're very critical of that.

604
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: If your resume Rory Josh, we don't see it a check.

605
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Barry, you're Benny the Bull. Joe Good. That felt

606
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: just rolling out of my lips Bury Benny the Bull.

607
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: So Barry. Benny was riding one of those adorable tiny

608
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: motorcycles at the Taste of Chicago festival, which included riding

609
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: through Grant Park.

610
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: It's always off hours, these guys are getting in trouble.

611
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: So he's riding his tiny motorcycle through Grant Park when

612
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: an off duty cop who's working security attempts to stop him.

613
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: The reason he's riding his motor vehicle in the park

614
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: without a permit. And when the cop working security tries

615
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: to stop and check his papers, Anderson did what a

616
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: mascot breaking the law was inevitably going to do.

617
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: He ran.

618
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a grown man wearing a giant bull costume,

619
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: so he didn't get very far. Yeah, yeah, you know

620
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: you're not running a four flat four. I think the

621
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: cops is like, okay, come on, Yeah, So he gets caught,

622
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: and that's where the real trouble starts.

623
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: Oh.

624
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: According to cops, Anderson threw a punch, knocked off the

625
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: deputy's glasses, and broke his watch. He was arrested, charged

626
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: with mis demeanor, battery, and driving within a parkway, and

627
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: taken in for booking. And in this case, the costume

628
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: was sent immediately back to the Bulls headquarters at the

629
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: United Center. So although city officials later spoke out in

630
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: Benny's favor, saying that he was always welcome at city

631
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: events and charges were ultimately dropped. What yeah, I mean,

632
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it could have been. You can

633
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: imagine it's like the fanatic situation where maybe he didn't

634
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: mean to knock the glasses off. He's just like, I'm

635
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: in a giant suit, Dude, I.

636
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Get knocking the glasses off. I want to know how

637
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: he broke the watch.

638
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so anyway, the charges were dropped. Benny the

639
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: Bull lived on, which brings me to our final story

640
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: of the week and probably the most on the nose.

641
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: And for this one, we go to California, Pennsylvania. Okay,

642
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: did you know that was a town?

643
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

644
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: No?

645
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: And I don't approve of it in any capacity.

646
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: It's about to get worse because we going to the

647
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: confusingly named California University of Pennsylvania, which should not be confused.

648
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: And I'm not making this up with Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

649
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: It's not. This is such a lack of creativity locally.

650
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: Or Miami University of Ohio. It's just I could go on,

651
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: it's I know, I won't.

652
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: It's wrong. It's wrong.

653
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: Sports teams from California University are known as the Vulcans,

654
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: and the Vulcan, if you don't know, is the mythological

655
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: god of fire. So the mascot is then called Blaze.

656
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: Makes sense, right, yep. Back in twenty ten, the guy

657
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Speaker 3: who played Blaze, a twenty year old named James Shaeffer,

658
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Speaker 3: took the role a little too seriously when after the

659
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Speaker 3: homecoming parade he set a float on fire. To be fair,

660
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Speaker 3: the float had broken down the street, and well, he

661
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Speaker 3: is the god of fire. But cops did not find

662
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Speaker 3: this amusing. They arrested Shaeffer and charged him with arson,

663
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Speaker 3: criminal mischief, disorderly conduct, and my favorite new crime that

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Speaker 3: I learned this week, risking a catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: Cool very cool A crime I.

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Speaker 3: Suspect you're sometimes guilty of when you eat mushroom chocolates

667
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Speaker 3: before going on stage. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Always.

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Speaker 3: Schaefer was not immediately fired, and the school even issued

670
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Speaker 3: a supportive statement. This young man is a well known

671
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Speaker 3: and well liked member of the community. The university acknowledges

672
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Speaker 3: the serious nature of the charges he is facing, but

673
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Speaker 3: our immediate concern is for his health and well being. Also,

674
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Speaker 3: no one was harmed. That's a good school thing at

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Speaker 3: your back.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I may be biased, and you are. We've always said

679
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Speaker 1: that every episode. We say you are incredibly biased, and.

680
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Speaker 3: Especially so in this case because I come from Morgantown,

681
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Speaker 3: West Virginia, home of WU, which is famous for, among

682
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Speaker 3: other things, for its students love of setting couches on fire.

683
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Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't know that at all.

684
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Speaker 3: Not an urban myth. Consider these facts. Morgantown ranked second

685
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Speaker 3: nationally to Columbus, Ohio, a city much larger, between two

686
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Speaker 3: thousand and eight and twenty twelve in intentionally set fires.

687
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Speaker 3: LA came in third.

688
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Speaker 1: Just the city alone.

689
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Speaker 3: Morgantowon has about thirty thousand people in Morgantown. WOW data

690
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Speaker 3: provided by the Morgantown Fire Department in two thousand and

691
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Speaker 3: four show that the city led the nation with one

692
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Speaker 3: and twenty nine intentional street fires in a six year

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Speaker 3: stretch from nineteen ninety seven to twosand so.

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Speaker 1: The irony here is that education clearly is not keeping

695
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Speaker 1: kids from making poor choices, not at all. They're making

696
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Speaker 1: more poor choices.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guessing most of those students were setting their

698
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Speaker 3: first fire. It's their first arsons.

699
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where they learned. It was at college

700
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Speaker 1: they did. That's interesting, and it's not only sports.

701
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Speaker 3: Here's a video of Morgantown on the night Osama bin

702
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Speaker 3: Laden was killed.

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Speaker 1: Any excuse Ednie, excuse man?

704
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Speaker 3: Hard to tell what's on fire? Something large. It probably

705
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Speaker 3: a couch or several couches.

706
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Speaker 1: Ben Lawden's dead couch burning at WVU Man.

707
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Speaker 3: Eventually the town got sick of it and started trying

708
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Speaker 3: to curb the shrend. Here's another clip.

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Speaker 1: I love that the town eventually got sick of it. Yeah,

710
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: years later they're like, let's get famous first, then let's

711
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Speaker 1: try to scale it back. This is a couch, it's

712
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Speaker 1: sitting and sleeping. I'm losing your remote.

713
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Speaker 2: What else would you keep spair change. Burning a couch

714
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Speaker 2: isn't cool.

715
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: It can cost you a lot more than you think.

716
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Speaker 2: So don't be stupid, be smart.

717
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Speaker 1: Celebrate with class, all right, And this is why I'm like,

718
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Speaker 1: why are we getting rid of sesame Street? These things

719
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: are so critical to people's development.

720
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to put that PSA on social media.

721
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Speaker 3: I mean, also like the squarest thing possible it would

722
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Speaker 3: have been made.

723
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Speaker 1: It's so square, but also absurd that they had to

724
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Speaker 1: even do that. Guys, Couches are for sitting.

725
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, for college students, Advanced education people are paying

726
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Speaker 3: tens of thousands of dollars.

727
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Speaker 1: Advanced education people That are people that are getting an

728
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Speaker 1: education that will put them in debt for the rest

729
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Speaker 1: of their lives. That when you come to that realization

730
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Speaker 1: that you can't play off your student debt, then start

731
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Speaker 1: setting stuff on fire. Don't do it in the middle

732
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Speaker 1: of learning.

733
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the rowdiest thing you ever did in college?

734
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Speaker 1: We set couches on fire? I don't even know. I mean,

735
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Speaker 1: I don't think we ever did anything that was insane.

736
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Speaker 1: I think we did the most usual thing of going

737
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Speaker 1: to parties that are broken up by police and you

738
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Speaker 1: run yeah, you know, there was like a little bit

739
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: high school in college, but nothing where you were ever like,

740
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: oh this is illegal, this is bad idea.

741
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Speaker 3: You weren't running in the mascot costume exactly. Well, my

742
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: only regret about this is that we have to move

743
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: on because I could tell these stories. I was especially

744
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: entertained by the research this week. I love this. We

745
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: may have to do a part two of Mascot's Behaving bad, Yes, sure,

746
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: but I think it's time to move on. And after

747
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: the break, you know what happens, Lane is going to

748
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Speaker 3: test our intellectual metal.

749
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Speaker 1: Lanes games that's missed.

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Speaker 3: Greetings, Crime lest Nation, and welcome back to everyone's favorite segment,

751
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 3: Rory Lane's Games. What are we playing this week?

752
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Speaker 1: Lane?

753
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Speaker 2: I have a personality quiz for you guys that I

754
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 2: didn't make up, but it is from a website called

755
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Speaker 2: animalanne dot com. Because we talked about mascots, but we

756
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: didn't talk about any furries and I think you guys

757
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: should just establish your fert sona.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, love to how a.

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Speaker 2: Quick statistic for you. According to First Science, a summary

760
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: of five years of research from the International Anthropomorphic Research Project.

761
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: This is a very legitimate study over two thirds of

762
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Speaker 2: furries identify as male and over eighty percent identify as white.

763
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Speaker 3: So not shocking at all. All.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying this could be this could be something for

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 1: You're saying it so far, we're in the running. Yeah,

767
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: we've got what it takes.

768
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: Also, if you asked, I think if you asked either

769
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Speaker 3: of us to say is it more men than women?

770
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Speaker 3: And is it more white people than other ethnicities, we

771
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: would have been like, yep, yeah, is it not one

772
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Speaker 3: hundred percent of both?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I found this quiz on the subreddit our slash Furries,

775
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Speaker 2: and a couple of people said it was pretty accurate

776
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Speaker 2: and it's only ten questions, So okay, let's go do it.

777
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Speaker 2: Josh Ruroy, who wants to go first?

778
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Speaker 3: Where do you go first?

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Speaker 2: Okay? How physically big are you? Are you quite small

780
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: and petite? Are you smaller than most but sturdily built?

781
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: About average? Bigger or extra large?

782
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: Okay? So I am about six feet and I think

783
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm like one ninety Is that average? Or am I

784
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: slightly bigger than most people? I don't really know.

785
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 3: I think it's slightly bigger than most.

786
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay.

787
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Speaker 2: How aggressive are you? Do you avoid confrontation? Do you

788
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Speaker 2: go look for trouble but you're no pushover?

789
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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Kind of middle ground, but you only react aggressively if

791
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: it's called for hot headed or forceful? Don't mess with me.

792
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: We'll do middle ground, middle ground, okay.

793
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Speaker 2: How social are you? Generally self contained, keep to yourself

794
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: for the company of small groups, pretty outgoing and so

795
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Speaker 2: comfortable socializing with all groups, or extremely outgoing, can function

796
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Speaker 2: with all types of people.

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Speaker 1: I would say I prefer the company of small groups

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Speaker 1: of friends.

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Speaker 2: Okay. How attractive do you think you are?

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Speaker 1: Perfect? Ten?

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00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm attractive in turn tie it's mother nature. Yes, creativity.

802
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Speaker 2: You're not one for writing songs? Are you pretty good

803
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Speaker 2: at coming up with creative videos?

804
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Speaker 1: I think I'm the last one. I definitely love creating.

805
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Speaker 2: How do you rank selflessness and cooperation? Wise very compassionate,

806
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: put the needs of friends and families above your own.

807
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: You're cooperative and willing to help friends in need, but

808
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Speaker 2: you have life too, or you look out for Number

809
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Speaker 2: one call me selfish, but a friend in need is

810
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Speaker 2: a pain in the ass.

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Speaker 1: Probably that middle one. I think I'm a little bit

812
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Speaker 1: of both.

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Speaker 2: How intelligent are you?

814
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Speaker 1: Oh, I like smartest, I'm smartest, just don't ask him.

815
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Speaker 3: Vice Presidential tribute, Thank you, thank you.

816
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Speaker 2: How athletic are you? Do you watch TV? Does that count?

817
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: You like to keep fit, but it's not try priority?

818
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: Or you're very physically active.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, sadly, I think it's number one. In

820
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Speaker 1: my mid forties, which is not the time when you

821
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: want to start to become less active.

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Speaker 2: Traveled exploration? Do you stay home? Do you go away

823
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Speaker 2: for day trips on long weekends? Love vacations? Or you

824
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: love traveling?

825
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, here's the caveat is that I do

826
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Speaker 1: love traveling, but it's always for work, so I'm never

827
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Speaker 1: like vacation traveling. I just have a fun job so

828
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Speaker 1: that traveling is not a headache. It's like getting to

829
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: go perform. But when I'm home, I do want to

830
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Speaker 1: kind of stay at home.

831
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Speaker 3: So maybe it's the middle one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the middle one.

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Speaker 2: Last one. How impulsive are you? You're more impulsive than

834
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: you should be pretty thoughtful or always deliberate and cautious.

835
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Speaker 1: I would say middle one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, pause, You're a wild.

837
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Speaker 1: Past and I'm allergic to cats, so we know this is.

838
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Speaker 2: Inaccurate, attractive, spiritual, sexy, uncommitted. There's a little sponsored ad

839
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Speaker 2: for heat to.

840
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Speaker 1: Real dancer travel agent.

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Speaker 3: Your specialty got a rivalry programmatic ab you love massage.

842
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Speaker 1: It's clearly sponsored. You love AT and T Like, Wait,

843
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Speaker 1: why would it say that?

844
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think what we should do is no, Josh

845
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Speaker 2: should take this.

846
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Speaker 3: Josh see if we match. Okay, way go down. Who

847
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Speaker 3: are the who are the celebrities? I saw Fergie?

848
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Speaker 2: Fergie is a wildcat, as is Heather Locklear.

849
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Speaker 3: Perfect.

850
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only two others.

851
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Speaker 1: I get that a lot. People are like, you're like

852
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Speaker 1: a male version of Fergie and Heather Locklear.

853
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Speaker 3: All right, my turn.

854
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: How big are you?

855
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty average, average.

856
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: Or somewhat bigger than most.

857
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 3: What do we think I'm not? I'm like five eleven

858
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: if Roy six feet, I'll do average. Okay?

859
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: How aggressive?

860
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

861
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: Very or little?

862
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: Or I think middle ground? Aggressively when the situation calls

863
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: for it.

864
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Okay, How social are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty introverted generally. Let's go with the top one.

866
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: Keep mainly to myself.

867
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Speaker 2: I'm generally self contained.

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00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Okay, guy with a public podcast that speaks to many,

869
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: many strangers across the globe.

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Speaker 2: How attractive do you think you are?

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Speaker 3: I'm going out of ten heads. Let's see creativity. I'm

872
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: pretty creative. I like, I'm gonna go I'm out of

873
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Speaker 3: the box creatures. Okay, you love playing guitar doltlessness. I'm

874
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Speaker 3: gonna go middle here too, because I don't think i'm

875
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Speaker 3: super yeah, intelligent, I'm gonna go I'm actually very good

876
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Speaker 3: at jeopardy. Let's go with I score Jeopardy athletic, and

877
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I like to keep fit, but it's

878
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Speaker 3: not my top priority.

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Speaker 2: Okay, travel and exploration.

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Speaker 3: Love exotic lookals.

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Speaker 2: Loves exotics, and how impulsive are you?

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Speaker 3: It's too middle?

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Speaker 2: Pretty thoughtful, Pretty thoughtful, but there's room for improvement.

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Speaker 3: All right, what do we got?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Does it just always give wildcat?

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Speaker 2: I'm a penguin. If that means anything to you.

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Speaker 1: In the free community, it's it means you're the most

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Speaker 1: You're the most dressed up.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to pick like not to have enough,

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Speaker 3: be different and be authentic.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so friendship wise, beware of petty jealousys, but

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Speaker 2: also high high score for love and sex.

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Speaker 1: All right, only Josh and I know deep inside that

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Speaker 1: that's inaccurate.

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Speaker 2: Guess, so I'll start commissioning those furry costumes of wildcats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Josh, I think we know Halloween this year.

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Speaker 3: I did like Heather lockleyer when I was a teenager,

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Speaker 3: so grade school.

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Speaker 1: I put Heather Locklear in first Crush territory for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so all right, Melrose Place, come on, you know we

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Speaker 1: weren't supposed to be watching that. That wasn't for us.

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Speaker 3: Other Lockleier, if you're listening, let us know two big

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Speaker 3: fans right here, to your biggest fans.

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Speaker 1: Ether if you're out there right please, Heather, Please, We'll see.

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Speaker 3: You next week at the Furry Convention. Crimeless is a

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Speaker 3: production of SmartLess Media, Campsite Media, and Big Players in

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Speaker 3: partnership with iHeart Podcasts. It's hosted by Rory Scovel and

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Speaker 3: me Josh Dean. Our senior producer is Lane Rose. Emma

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Speaker 3: Simonov is our associate producer. We're sound designed and engineered

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Speaker 3: by Blake Brook with support from Ewan Letram Ewen. Mark

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Speaker 3: McAdam composed our theme song. The executive producers at Campside

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Speaker 3: Media are Vanessa Gregoriatis, Matt Cher and Me Josh Dean.

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Speaker 3: The executive producers for iHeart Podcasts and Big Money Players

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Speaker 3: are Jack O'Brien, Lindsay Hoffmans, and Matt Appadaka. For smart

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Speaker 3: Let's Media, the executive producers are Will Arnette, Jason Bateman,

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Speaker 3: Sean Hayes, and Richard Corson. Bernie Kaminski is head of production.

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Speaker 3: The associate producer is Mattie McCann. A special thanks to

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Speaker 3: our operations team, Ashley Warren and Sabina Marra. Do you

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Speaker 3: have a question, comment, or confession for the Crimeless team?

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Speaker 3: Email us at Crimeless at campsidmedia dot com and if

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Speaker 3: you enjoyed Crimeless, please rate and review the show wherever

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Speaker 3: you get your podcasts. Help people find the show and

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Speaker 3: also makes us feel validated unless you're means, in which

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Speaker 3: case keep it to yourself. We'll see you next week.

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