Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 1: I'm Mela. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, bitches.
Speaker 2: We're back in your city. Ho.
Speaker 3: I am very happy to be here, you guys. We
Speaker 3: are mid tour. We're at the very mid mark of
Speaker 3: our tour and we're in at l shouty. I feel
Speaker 3: so good when I'm here, and also like it always
Speaker 3: brings me back to my holidays. I'm like, oh God,
Speaker 3: good thing. I couldn't stay here too long. I'd be
Speaker 3: too much of a hope. But when I get back,
Speaker 3: I get energized.
Speaker 1: Well, you're here with your your boyfriend is also a host,
Speaker 1: so you guys can hoe together?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're working on it. We're working on finding the
Speaker 3: balance and our wholeness together. I know it's a struggle.
Speaker 3: You know, it could be a hoe independently and then
Speaker 3: you try to hoe together. And there's some logistics. There's
Speaker 3: some hoo logistics that takes some time to you know, calibrate.
Speaker 3: So you know, we're working on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it.
Speaker 3: Monogamous host, how are you feeling. I know we've yeah,
Speaker 3: we've we've been traveling a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm tired, but I'm energized. The tour has been going
Speaker 1: really well. I've been selling out all of our shows.
Speaker 1: I feel really blessed and grateful that we've been able
Speaker 1: to do that. So I'm happy. My nick has been,
Speaker 1: you know, traveling with me. I literally kidnapped him. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that later. Literally, okay, fine. I booked his
Speaker 1: flight in his sleep to Atlanta. He was laying next
Speaker 1: to me and we were drunk the night before, and
Speaker 1: he told me in his drunkness he would come. So
Speaker 1: I held him to that and we went to bed.
Speaker 1: I woke up in the morning and at his beautiful
Speaker 1: sweet face, and I was like, I think he does
Speaker 1: want to come to Atlanta, And I said, let me
Speaker 1: book this shit, and so I booked the flight for
Speaker 1: that same day. I woke up and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: don't be mad, and he was like what.
Speaker 2: I No.
Speaker 3: She had sex with him first, and then she said
Speaker 3: don't be mad, and he said to what. She said,
Speaker 3: You're not going back to where you live. You're coming
Speaker 3: with me because I bought you a ticket. Then you left, Tilly,
Speaker 3: but willingly got on the plane. So now we're on
Speaker 3: a world tour, double dating. Yeah. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of just being the fucking fourth wheel. I
Speaker 1: did it in Coasta, Rica. It's the third I can't
Speaker 1: whatever third wheel. I can't do it anymore. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of us. I love you, but you don't know what
Speaker 1: it feels like. Okay, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You get to go back to your room and get fucked.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I go back to my room and masturbaateed or go
Speaker 1: to sleep. It's the fucking depression.
Speaker 3: Every time I might be hugging him to much, I'm like,
Speaker 3: let me give him some space, so doesn't get triggered.
Speaker 3: Dace like, don't be too affectionate. Erica is gonna get mad.
Speaker 3: She's gonna feel left out. I'm happy he's here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we've been. We we need help shit, honestly, like we
Speaker 3: have very special boyfriends because if you come into our
Speaker 3: cipher and you're not useful or helpful, then you can't stay.
Speaker 3: We need muscles and organization and shit like that. So
Speaker 3: can you like help or else? What the fuck is
Speaker 3: the point? So thank you guys, we love you.
Speaker 1: I love you anyway. I'm really excited because we have
Speaker 1: a special guest that I feel you know, we talk
Speaker 1: about manifesting, we talk about just like our like DM
Speaker 1: sliding skills. This is a true manifestation of our DM
Speaker 1: sliding skills. And I've been like following this beautiful woman
Speaker 1: for a long time, listening to her music. And then
Speaker 1: I looked in my DMS because I went to Afropunk
Speaker 1: and she was performing on stage and I made my nigga.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, baby Mother's here.
Speaker 2: Well here she is.
Speaker 1: But I was like, she's here. We have to we
Speaker 1: have to watch her. I'm like, she has to hope
Speaker 1: she performs my favorite song. And we were just sitting there.
Speaker 1: I was like waiting and waiting, and I was like yes.
Speaker 1: I was like, let me a message her and see
Speaker 1: what she's up to. Where does she live anyway. I
Speaker 1: would like to welcome Brittany aka baby Mother aka bomb
Speaker 1: ass Rapper aka mother of four which which just style
Speaker 1: icon okay, overall creative to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming, you know, agreeing to
Speaker 3: be our friend and perform at our show. I just
Speaker 3: posted you and someone was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 3: so cool. You guys are her friend. I was like yeah,
Speaker 3: we just made her be our friend two weeks ago. Thanks,
Speaker 3: we're pretty excited.
Speaker 2: Friends.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, you know, I'm a number one stalker.
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me just message her. And
Speaker 1: then she messaged me back quickly, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she meant what she checks her DMS
Speaker 1: like she does it herself.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what I was.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I thought, but immediately I called
Speaker 2: you me.
Speaker 3: I was like, bitch, she answered, and then I was like,
Speaker 3: I wonder where she lives. I was like if she
Speaker 3: what if she lives in Atlanta? And then she she'll
Speaker 3: perform at our show. And she's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: And then she called me back, She's like, she.
Speaker 2: Lives in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's time to wish our ship at
Speaker 3: we did a spell basically now you're here. The spell
Speaker 3: was us talking about it. And you need I mean,
Speaker 3: most of the time, that's all you need. Honestly, people
Speaker 3: underestimate the power of your words. Like literally, what you
Speaker 3: speak is our spells. So be intentional with them and say, hey,
Speaker 3: you're you gonna be my friend and you're gonna come
Speaker 3: on my show and you're gonna perform and then boila,
Speaker 3: you're my best friend.
Speaker 1: I just like when I when I first found you,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was on Apple or Spotify one
Speaker 1: of the one of the places. It was your name
Speaker 1: that drew me to you because I'm a baby mama
Speaker 1: and I was like, who is baby mother?
Speaker 2: And I think, just like our.
Speaker 1: Show, like people will gravitate towards our name, good mom's
Speaker 1: bad choices. Like it's just it's just straight to the point.
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, I like this bitch, what's she talking
Speaker 1: about over here?
Speaker 4: It's so crazy because like when I first started, that
Speaker 4: name is what pushed a lot of people away from me,
Speaker 4: and I used to bothered by it, but to hear
Speaker 4: it on the flip side, it's just like that's what
Speaker 4: I wanted in the first place, So I shouldn't care
Speaker 4: about who the name doesn't resonate with.
Speaker 2: You see those people that wear those anyway.
Speaker 1: They are And your people, the people that are supposed
Speaker 1: to be your people, will come, you know, they'll come,
Speaker 1: and then other niggas WI will fall back, and we
Speaker 1: need that.
Speaker 3: There's always gonna be someone like you can have an
Speaker 3: idea or a birth something and there's always gonna be
Speaker 3: a hater or someone who doesn't like it. I think
Speaker 3: that's for the biggest lesson in this too. Hell of
Speaker 3: people were like, this is not a good idea.
Speaker 4: I feel more comfortable when people don't like my shit, though,
Speaker 4: because because usually when it's like something that everybody likes
Speaker 4: is probably either very bad or like, yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: never be it'd be overhyped, like when the mask is
Speaker 4: really Gravitate Toys.
Speaker 2: It it's just like that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It can feel I feel like maybe it can feel
Speaker 1: probably scary, because it's like, Okay, how do I, like,
Speaker 1: how do I maintain this this thing?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And then you become like a like a prop whether
Speaker 4: you want to or not, Like you become some sort
Speaker 4: of symbol of something that you probably wasn't even trying
Speaker 4: to be in the first place.
Speaker 2: It was just trying to me right.
Speaker 1: You get hell to the standard of like everything you
Speaker 1: were perfect in the beginning, What the fuck is happening now?
Speaker 1: It's like, I'd rather be imperfect at the top so
Speaker 1: that when I am perfect, they're like surprised and you're like, oh.
Speaker 3: Shit, the majority doesn't really know shit. Like the majority
Speaker 3: of people don't have style. The majority of people don't
Speaker 3: have taste, so you're right. It's like it's it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, have to.
Speaker 4: Be told what to like in the first place. It's
Speaker 4: like I'm not praised.
Speaker 3: It's okay, Well none of our best friends at all.
Speaker 3: Just tell us more about yourself so we could be
Speaker 3: more best friends. Like how did you get started? Like
Speaker 3: tell us how you came to be an artist, baby mother,
Speaker 3: Like what has been your journey?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: I feel like I've always been an artist. I just
Speaker 4: was raised by our own people or the right people.
Speaker 4: It doesn't with the right people, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: My mom's a can paint and draw that my mom's
Speaker 4: an artist and my dad's a barber. So I just
Speaker 4: feel like they would kind of like, you know, connect
Speaker 4: more with like the artists inside me. But no, they
Speaker 4: just want me to be very, very smart and that see,
Speaker 4: that's all they wanted, want me to be smart. They
Speaker 4: didn't care about anything that I wanted to do artistically.
Speaker 4: I've always drawn, I've always wanted to do fashion design,
Speaker 4: like I've always written poetry and so like those were
Speaker 4: like my things. But what got nurtured the most was
Speaker 4: just like school school, school, school, school, school, Like, I
Speaker 4: was in gifted classes pretty early, which is whird. You
Speaker 4: separate kids from other kids because they're quote unquote too smart,
Speaker 4: which doesn't even make sense. Like, so that's like my
Speaker 4: beginning years. It's just like I wanted to do art,
Speaker 4: but I kind of like had to suppressed because of
Speaker 4: my parents. So you get older and you get older
Speaker 4: and you stop giving the funk about what your parents
Speaker 4: talking about. And since I didn't have that outlet or
Speaker 4: anything to do sexpress myself, I start.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, that is an art form in itself.
Speaker 4: And so I'm like and so I'm like, from twelve
Speaker 4: to seventeen, I'm fucking like for no reason. And then seventeen,
Speaker 4: I have kids, and my life trans around. So when
Speaker 4: I started trying to do all these different things to
Speaker 4: like incorporate what I.
Speaker 2: Like to do with still please with my parents.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to school for cosmotogy, going to school
Speaker 4: for fashion design, going to all these schools for for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sh that I already fucking know. And then
Speaker 2: and then I go and then I fucking started entered
Speaker 2: corporate America. You know what I'm saying. That always sucks.
Speaker 2: That ship I can't even imagine in corporate America.
Speaker 1: Was supposed to picture I want.
Speaker 2: I want that show you.
Speaker 4: Because I pulled up pictures, I'm just like like literally
Speaker 4: the like, oh my god, it's kind of scared. Looking
Speaker 4: at normy pictures of me is so freaking scared because
Speaker 4: I'm just like, who the fuck was that?
Speaker 1: Like, I need to If you guys are not checking
Speaker 1: us out on YouTube, please check us out on YouTube,
Speaker 1: because baby mother is, she got bunny ears on, she
Speaker 1: got changed, she got a little school girl off, and
Speaker 1: her nails is popping. I don't see one ounce of
Speaker 1: corporate America posibilities here.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was definitely that I used to work at a
Speaker 2: call center.
Speaker 4: Man, I was a car center girl, and then I
Speaker 4: did like a couple like retail management, like for every
Speaker 4: twenty one.
Speaker 2: I was a manager for every twenty one.
Speaker 4: But then like the abuse and stuff at home, so
Speaker 4: I kind of just had to like leave, and I
Speaker 4: was homeless, and I was pregnant with my babies, like
Speaker 4: my baby twins.
Speaker 2: It was homeless, pregnant, and that.
Speaker 4: Shit changed my life because it's just like damn, that
Speaker 4: shit showed me that I can do a lot of shit.
Speaker 4: On my own, you know what I'm saying, Like being
Speaker 4: raised with my father. My father's Muslim, so it's just
Speaker 4: like once you be mad, code depending on him, and
Speaker 4: you know, he just wants you to second stick all
Speaker 4: day and make sure the dishes is clean.
Speaker 2: And I was not. That's not what I wanted to
Speaker 2: do with my life.
Speaker 4: But shawing being homeless for that, extending the period of
Speaker 4: time with two little ones and pregnant, I just bout
Speaker 4: stuff a little bit. And so when I got back
Speaker 4: on my feet a little big, it was my grandmother
Speaker 4: got really sick and I came to stay with her,
Speaker 4: so that become my feet a little bit. And that's
Speaker 4: when I just said, freaking. I had made a couple
Speaker 4: of songs before, like when I was when I was
Speaker 4: doing the corporate American Ship, I had made a couple
Speaker 4: of songs. People was fucking with it. Hella heavy, but
Speaker 4: it didn't, it didn't, it didn't steak.
Speaker 2: I didn't care that much.
Speaker 4: But once I had my little twins, I was just like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see what happens. And then that's when I
Speaker 4: decided to change my name. But that used to be
Speaker 4: Cindy Caush like.
Speaker 3: Cindy w Hoo from the Branch.
Speaker 1: I love I Also I heard you had a group
Speaker 1: called Money Over Niggas.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: I also loved high school. That was in high school,
Speaker 4: it's home seeing me and my cousin. I used to
Speaker 4: write poetry, and poetry just kind of turned into like rapping,
Speaker 4: and I would write songs for me and my cousins
Speaker 4: and we would just like wrap them sits in class.
Speaker 4: It never did too much. It was just me and
Speaker 4: my little cousins in school board for real.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Money Over.
Speaker 3: Niggas, get that tattoo.
Speaker 2: I tattoos so bad. I wanted to suspect.
Speaker 4: We used to draw it on our hands and we
Speaker 4: used to be like, oh look can I still do it?
Speaker 2: I'm old and many other niggas.
Speaker 3: Let's go on a tattoo after this, guys where thewist said,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure there's a tattoo of a tattoo shop summer.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty shit, but yeah, yeah, and that's and then
Speaker 4: I dropped my first tape, and then I got my
Speaker 4: first book. It off my first tape and I don't
Speaker 4: even know like we should just and it's always been
Speaker 4: like really low key, like underground stuff and I appreciate
Speaker 4: that aspect of it, because whenever I try to cross
Speaker 4: over into like big people world, mainstream world, it gets.
Speaker 2: Too, it gets too. I don't like it. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what type of time the people be on.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what they be wanting from me. I
Speaker 4: don't stand what they want me to do, and the
Speaker 4: stuff that I do understand, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: So it's a whole other language.
Speaker 4: Yes, Like I just want to do what the fuck
Speaker 4: I'm doing right now, Like I can get bigger like this,
Speaker 4: I don't have to.
Speaker 2: Ribe to the status quo.
Speaker 1: You know what, your longevity, You're gonna have more longevity
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: I believe that I want to go back to your
Speaker 1: childhood because I know from my researches you grew up
Speaker 1: in a pretty religious households it on both.
Speaker 2: Sides, on both sides. Like your mother.
Speaker 1: She is a Christian, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: That woman.
Speaker 4: You would think she she knew Jesus personally. Sh she does.
Speaker 4: That's crazy that she thinks she do, but she doesn't
Speaker 4: because the things that she she treats me weird for
Speaker 4: It's like Jesus would never like, did you really read
Speaker 4: that book or do you just use that book to
Speaker 4: position yourself above other people?
Speaker 2: My mom was like she was weird.
Speaker 4: I don't blame my mom for a lot of stuff
Speaker 4: that I went through as a child, because I feel
Speaker 4: like I feel like that generation of women just had
Speaker 4: to They just was doing what they knew how to do,
Speaker 4: and unfortunately it was a lot of like.
Speaker 2: Men centered behavior.
Speaker 4: Everything was about like this man.
Speaker 3: Yes, like like Jesus or just like other men, the
Speaker 3: men like her her man.
Speaker 2: But in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1: Certain one carry is how your mother and father even
Speaker 1: came to be together, because theydad.
Speaker 4: Can be together in high school. My dad didn't become
Speaker 4: a Muslim until I was like five. And it's so goofy,
Speaker 4: Like everything about them is so goofy. I hope they
Speaker 4: watched this because y'all are goofy. Like that's so goofy
Speaker 4: to me. Nothing that they do makes any sense. Like
Speaker 4: my dad is like hell is strict. He tries to
Speaker 4: like pasture himself up to be like this great gentleman.
Speaker 4: He's like a really well known barber in my city,
Speaker 4: Like he's one of the biggest barbers where I'm from.
Speaker 4: But it's just like nobody knows they beats women. Well
Speaker 4: if they do, they don't care, but nobody knows, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And then my mom.
Speaker 4: Tries to act like this really holy entity, but she's
Speaker 4: just come back too, and it's just like I don't
Speaker 4: get it. But I'm the oldest and everything I do,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what I do. It's the end of
Speaker 4: the world on both sides.
Speaker 2: Like I got our.
Speaker 4: Brother, been in jail, said all that stuff, but I'm
Speaker 4: a problem. My my mom got mad kids and they
Speaker 4: all do all kind of different ship.
Speaker 2: But what I'm doing is the words.
Speaker 4: But I think my mom is more scared of me
Speaker 4: to anything because she thinks I worship the devil.
Speaker 2: And that's what That's where we clashed a lot. It's religion.
Speaker 4: Is like me and her will be doing good and
Speaker 4: then she'll bring up religion and then we'll be on
Speaker 4: the fence again. And the last time I talked to
Speaker 4: my mom, I was in the hospital and I got
Speaker 4: out of the hospital and.
Speaker 2: I made a joke. I made a joke.
Speaker 4: I used an Instagram filter and it had like you
Speaker 4: can put your face looking like Jesus is holding you
Speaker 4: and I'm fussing it and I was like I rose again,
Speaker 4: fuck Jesus.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 4: Thing got shot on me and she blew my phone
Speaker 4: up like winning on me, and I went in on
Speaker 4: her because I'm tired of that ship, like I'm tired
Speaker 4: of I'm tired of that Like so, yeah, I haven't talked.
Speaker 2: To my mom since then.
Speaker 3: And where did she get that you worship the devil?
Speaker 3: You think just anything against Jesus, like a lot of people,
Speaker 3: is the devil because I.
Speaker 4: Talk about the devil a lot of my music with
Speaker 4: the Giggis. I don't even believe in the devil. That
Speaker 4: was not real to me. So growing up Christian the
Speaker 4: way that I did, I just noticed very early on
Speaker 4: how people would demonize my mom because she was a
Speaker 4: single parent, you know what I'm saying, So like I
Speaker 4: called myself the Devil's daughter, and no, because I think
Speaker 4: my mom is the devil, because that is how the
Speaker 4: world sees black women with children and like and even
Speaker 4: like little black girls, like we don't even get a
Speaker 4: chance to prove who we are with automatically demonize, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like that is the metaphor and
Speaker 4: my mom, being an artist, I would think she will
Speaker 4: understand it. She don't care. She don't care. She don't care,
Speaker 4: and I've tried to explain it to her, but she
Speaker 4: don't care. It's just metaphorical to me. But to her,
Speaker 4: I worship say, you no help that I always talking
Speaker 4: about six and she too.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's part of it.
Speaker 3: So well, welcome to the club. I know. I asked,
Speaker 3: I asked you before we started, if you consider yourself
Speaker 3: a witch, and she said yes, you know, like six months,
Speaker 3: me and Erica or like we will privately beat witches.
Speaker 3: But she's like, don't say it on the show. She's like,
Speaker 3: you know, people are sensitive about the word witch.
Speaker 2: And then they really are.
Speaker 3: They really are. But it's like specifically like black people too,
Speaker 3: Like I think people who underestimate how much slavery is
Speaker 3: like in doctrine, in our cellularly, so like any mention,
Speaker 3: like anything against religion seems just like so terrible. But
Speaker 3: I think it's because like there was once upon a
Speaker 3: time for practicing our our native indigenous whatever like it was,
Speaker 3: it was punishable by death. So now if you talk
Speaker 3: against it, it feels like so terrible. I mean even
Speaker 3: making jokes because me and Erica water signs were dark
Speaker 3: and we make jokes. But yeah, I think that religion
Speaker 3: for a lot of people is like a cloak to
Speaker 3: them to their true selves. So you could be do
Speaker 3: evil shit and be an evil person, but in the
Speaker 3: name of Jesus, you know what I'm saying, Like, bitch,
Speaker 3: you ain't for nobody, right, So that's interesting that those
Speaker 3: parents produced.
Speaker 4: When when you when you when you're being raised on
Speaker 4: two sides of the spectrum. Because my dad is not
Speaker 4: like a like a holy Muslim from like wherever Muslims
Speaker 4: come from. I'm saying, he's a black man in America
Speaker 4: that's mad at white people and so he listens to
Speaker 4: Farkun and all and stuff like that. And it's just
Speaker 4: like my mom literally went a custody battle with me
Speaker 4: because she brought a coloring book to the custody hearing
Speaker 4: that my dad brought me that had poems about like
Speaker 4: the black man, the man that's black on the inside,
Speaker 4: one on the inside, the Oreo.
Speaker 2: Cookie, and they're like not the coloring yes, coloring book.
Speaker 4: It was like like when you're in like this this
Speaker 4: FOI this this this this islam or whatever that they
Speaker 4: have like all of this like propaganda loa ki and
Speaker 4: it's just like, you know, white people are whatever, but
Speaker 4: come on now, like a whole coloring book.
Speaker 2: For their kids.
Speaker 4: That's like build like building this hate early against white people.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like t shae kids to
Speaker 4: be aware, but like this is violence, Like yeah, you're
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's like if if it
Speaker 4: was the other way around, it would be considered isis
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's just like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that shit was weird. But then and then you and
Speaker 4: then you go on the other side. You're raised by
Speaker 4: these people who are like fake kind, but then you
Speaker 4: see the Hey, it's like it makes you kind of
Speaker 4: like run away from both of them shits, and it
Speaker 4: makes you just want to more kind of like connect
Speaker 4: with who you are and what you believe in because
Speaker 4: there are some things in Christianity that I agree with,
Speaker 4: and there's some things in the Muslim religion that I
Speaker 4: agree with.
Speaker 2: But it's not the end.
Speaker 3: I'll be all.
Speaker 2: I feel like relationship be personalized.
Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, we're all different people. Yeah, I like
Speaker 3: what you said about like why you called yourself the
Speaker 3: Devil's daughter, and how people demonize like single black moms specifically,
Speaker 3: and like probably even growing up in the church, you
Speaker 3: still feel the shade and you see it like yeah,
Speaker 3: like it's so crazy when you're a single black mom
Speaker 3: and no one says that shit about the black dad,
Speaker 3: like it's just a stereotype and the energy that goes
Speaker 3: with that, like something must be wrong with you. And
Speaker 3: how you interpreted that like as a child, and how
Speaker 3: you felt that shit growing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would see people like I would literally see
Speaker 4: people coming with my mom's face and be in our
Speaker 4: face like oh and literally the meaning my mom will
Speaker 4: hurt her bag, Like I see that. She'd like, my
Speaker 4: mom don't see it. She's too busy trying to people please,
Speaker 4: Like I see that shit. I see how people look
Speaker 4: at you. I see how people offer you things out
Speaker 4: of like pity, not like because they respect you because
Speaker 4: you're doing your thing.
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like if I see a single mom and and she
Speaker 4: going through something, and it's like if I can't help
Speaker 4: and I want to help, it's not because I feel
Speaker 4: bad for her, It's because like, damn, like I know
Speaker 4: how this shit is.
Speaker 2: This shit sucks, bro, Like, here you go.
Speaker 4: It's never that you're You're always beneath people, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And the more kids you have, the rest. My mom
Speaker 2: had five, So it's like, yeah.
Speaker 4: Everybody makes you feel like whatever you're going through, like
Speaker 4: if you have, if you haven't, man, you should be
Speaker 4: grateful because nobody's gonna want to beat you anyway. So
Speaker 4: be grateful for what you have, take what you can get,
Speaker 4: like please, it's it's it's just it's just a lot
Speaker 4: of time that I watched my mom go through they
Speaker 4: kind of like made me kind of want to be
Speaker 4: the woman and not even just my mom, but like
Speaker 4: my dad's wife, like the woman that my dad meet
Speaker 4: is just like no, no, no, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 4: I can't put myself through it, and I can't let
Speaker 4: my daughters watch me go through the shit that my
Speaker 4: parents went through.
Speaker 2: Can't.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess basically when you ran away too or
Speaker 1: like I guess going back to when you said your
Speaker 1: creativity ended up being in the form of fucking. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people when they feel repressed
Speaker 1: and they feel like especially as around that age like
Speaker 1: around twelve eleven relieven. It's like you start really understanding,
Speaker 1: like you start understanding your body more. You start boys
Speaker 1: start giving you attention, and if you don't have any
Speaker 1: sort of guidance anybody having conversations.
Speaker 2: With you, you run towards that shit. I know.
Speaker 1: I was very promiscy was at a young age because
Speaker 1: no one was having these conversations and I was getting
Speaker 1: validation and attention from boys early, so I was like
Speaker 1: fuck it.
Speaker 2: And they were definitely having those conversations with you. If
Speaker 2: you didn't know nothing. The best little boys at school
Speaker 2: teach you. I know, I teach you that.
Speaker 1: It won't teach you what you want. Let me show
Speaker 1: you how to suck a dig real quick.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, Like let make sure how
Speaker 3: I like you more. I'll let me see it. All
Speaker 3: the girls is the good the cool girls.
Speaker 2: Are doing right, yeah right, if you like me, you're
Speaker 2: gonna do this.
Speaker 3: And then in some ways it kind of like for me,
Speaker 3: I think because same I jumped in quick. I was
Speaker 3: like this seems fun, you know, and and like fuck
Speaker 3: but my parents said this is fun, but it seems
Speaker 3: like I think for a long time. I had this
Speaker 3: epiphany recently because like I said, literally truly, like I
Speaker 3: was holding in Atlanta, not like whatever, but I was
Speaker 3: in college. I came straight from high school and moved
Speaker 3: to Atlanta like around the corner, and I was so
Speaker 3: disconnected but doing it all the time, and I just felt,
Speaker 3: you know what, my mind was like I have control
Speaker 3: over this, like I'm doing because I want to do it,
Speaker 3: but I was.
Speaker 4: Like not connected to the Yeah, I was, so I've
Speaker 4: been thinking about like during those times I was having
Speaker 4: six Like what the fuck was there for? Like I thought,
Speaker 4: I was like I wasted so much of my body. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like for what when was I doing that for? I
Speaker 4: don't even remember. I remember the situation, but I don't
Speaker 4: remember what it feels like it It wasn't special, nothing
Speaker 4: was nothing was fun about it.
Speaker 2: It was just I was just doing it, just literally
Speaker 2: just doing it, just to do it.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of I think a lot of
Speaker 1: us go through that ship and it's just it's about
Speaker 1: it's probably about in the moment validation and then it's
Speaker 1: so fleeting that you don't even remember the feeling after
Speaker 1: it's done.
Speaker 4: Also because like it be like it be about the validation,
Speaker 4: but you don't get validated you get degraded.
Speaker 3: Like a little bit of you gets taken away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you just chopping down more and more
Speaker 4: and more to the point where then they get to
Speaker 4: a point where you feel like you you absolutely feel
Speaker 4: like you have to do it because everybody knows that
Speaker 4: you don't already fuck this person, this person, this person,
Speaker 4: So now you have to fuck.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get anything if you don't do that, like.
Speaker 3: Or like just subconsciously, you just feel like you should
Speaker 3: like you should like you, like I don't know, like
Speaker 3: doing somebody a favor, like he did take me home.
Speaker 4: Don't know that, And they will and they will make
Speaker 4: you feel like like boys are so predatory, and nobody
Speaker 4: talks about especially high school boys. I can think of
Speaker 4: so many situations that I've been in where biggas put
Speaker 4: me in positions where I had to do something.
Speaker 2: That I didn't want to do. It's right, somebody talks
Speaker 2: about that. Nobody talks about that.
Speaker 4: It's just boys being boys with everybody talks about these
Speaker 4: little girls being hosts, but nobody talks about how predatory
Speaker 4: high school boys can be.
Speaker 1: Bro It's true, and it's true, and if they do
Speaker 1: paint them as that boys will be boys and you
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 3: Be careful and actually, why don't you put yourself in
Speaker 3: that position and wear that skirt exactly. But it's like
Speaker 3: who's the mother of these boys?
Speaker 4: You know, they not knowing most of the time, and
Speaker 4: be like the girl probably just like one boy, and
Speaker 4: then she has to do everything, you know.
Speaker 2: What the whole crew.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like it's just it's just really shady,
Speaker 4: like really weird stuff that goes on. And I try
Speaker 4: to make sure that my son is not that type
Speaker 4: of boy Jesus Christ, because that's that is scary. And
Speaker 4: I can imagine, like especially now, like what little girls
Speaker 4: feel like they have to do, because it's a completely
Speaker 4: different time.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, all these little girls are looking grown growner
Speaker 1: and growner and friends.
Speaker 4: Like males, and it's just like I'm not I'm not
Speaker 4: pressed about it, Like, girl, go ahead with your lex friend.
Speaker 4: Like I wish you could wear lace princes in school
Speaker 4: if we had lax friends back thing we got made
Speaker 4: front of you in a wig. So I'm glad that
Speaker 4: weigs are more acceptable now. And I like that the
Speaker 4: girls get to get cute and like feel themselves whatever,
Speaker 4: like let's they ship.
Speaker 2: But I just think about like.
Speaker 4: These little boys and like the music that we listen
Speaker 4: to now, and like how it's just it's scary having kids, man,
Speaker 4: it really is.
Speaker 1: And you had so you had twins. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you have two sets of twins with me. We were
Speaker 1: talking about before this. I was like, but you got
Speaker 1: a unicorn unicorny has some such magical gene inside of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you had your first set when you were sixteen
Speaker 1: seventeen or seventeen seventeen.
Speaker 3: And the first set were boys or girls, A boy
Speaker 3: and a girl. Oh boy? Yeah, okay, yeah, that's so special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1: Like what was that like, especially like well especially you
Speaker 1: said you were were you still living with your father
Speaker 1: at the time or you were I was.
Speaker 2: Still living with my dad. My baby dad was grown
Speaker 2: as fuck.
Speaker 4: I would say, it's like twenty one, I'm seventeen, and
Speaker 4: so I was scared.
Speaker 2: But I also didn't have any feelings. It's like I
Speaker 2: didn't care.
Speaker 4: Like from from like age twelve to like after I
Speaker 4: had my kids. Bro. Like I was also on like
Speaker 4: ADHD medication. So it's just like I just didn't have feelings, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just didn't. I didn't care about nothing. So it's
Speaker 4: just like to see you have a twins. She was like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, like that's that's crazy. But I don't think
Speaker 4: I remember like feeling any type of way my whole pregnancy.
Speaker 4: I know, I hit my pregnancy until I couldn't anymore.
Speaker 4: But other than that, other than me, it's scared I
Speaker 4: was gonna get caught, Like I didn't care until they
Speaker 4: got here.
Speaker 2: Were you hiding your pregnancy? Yeah? I hit it until
Speaker 2: I couldn't anymore.
Speaker 1: Like you said, oh shit, yeah, how what was?
Speaker 2: I was like, twins is pretty hard.
Speaker 4: I was like four or five months, and my dad
Speaker 4: just kept asking me, like when.
Speaker 2: The last time you had your period? When the last
Speaker 2: time you had ad I just got.
Speaker 3: Off my bloating, so the fuck you don't know my body? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just had to finally give it up, Like did
Speaker 2: you know you were having twins?
Speaker 4: I didn't know I was having twins until I went
Speaker 4: until I actually told my dad. But what was the
Speaker 4: kicker was like I had just got my drop at Pope's.
Speaker 4: I was working at Pope's and I was on the
Speaker 4: cashier citay and I kept passing out.
Speaker 2: Like passing out.
Speaker 4: Yes, I kept fainting, and it was when I it
Speaker 4: was when I went to the bathroom and I just,
Speaker 4: you know how like the bathroom floors be like ice cold,
Speaker 4: dirty as hell. I lay on there freaking nasty ass
Speaker 4: Pope's bedroom floor, That's how like it was just so much.
Speaker 4: I was just felt like I was so hot, and
Speaker 4: so I went home and my dad was like, where
Speaker 4: is room you And I just had to go ahead
Speaker 4: and be like, I think I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1: Mm So then did he kick you out of the house?
Speaker 4: My dad never kicked me out. I left because my
Speaker 4: dad used to jump on me, so he never kicked
Speaker 4: me out. My dad would let me see. My dad
Speaker 4: would let me stay and argue with me as much
Speaker 4: as I want to as long as I'm there, but
Speaker 4: he let me stay. I stayed with him up until
Speaker 4: I had the babies, and then after that I want
Speaker 4: to live with a unt of mine. And then after
Speaker 4: that I went back to live with my dad, and
Speaker 4: that's when I was homeless.
Speaker 2: And then after I was homeless, I went to live
Speaker 2: with my grandma. Well how was that with two young children?
Speaker 2: Being homeless? Like, how did you? How'd you do it? Well?
Speaker 4: First, I stayed in a shelter. I stayed in a shelter,
Speaker 4: and in the shelter you have to leave like at
Speaker 4: seven am every morning. I would go drop my kids
Speaker 4: off at the school around the corner from the shelter,
Speaker 4: and then I would just go to either my grandma's
Speaker 4: house or I would go to the library and stay
Speaker 4: at the library all day. And that's where I started
Speaker 4: learning about witchcraft and stuff like. That's how I started
Speaker 4: learning about myself and more things. And it was the
Speaker 4: most trauma was had, Like I don't I can't believe
Speaker 4: I made it through days Like that's like anything I
Speaker 4: go through, I just be like, at least I ain't
Speaker 4: right there no more, because that was I don't know
Speaker 4: how I got through that shit every day, Like.
Speaker 2: You know what mother I think.
Speaker 1: I think mother energy will do that. You know, you
Speaker 1: see you have two children that are kind of counting
Speaker 1: on you, and you're like, shit, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get through this some way somehow. I always say, like
Speaker 1: single motherhood is as often like painted as this, very
Speaker 1: like sad, and it can be really lonely and it's
Speaker 1: it's difficult, but can also teach you like wow, I
Speaker 1: am motherfucking superwoman. I can do this shit and I will.
Speaker 4: Right and and and yeah, cause it would be like
Speaker 4: I was getting like, you know, you get like the
Speaker 4: welfare checks. So it's like, you got two kids, you
Speaker 4: want eighty five in Tennessee, you want eighty five a month, And.
Speaker 3: I'm just supposed to do what I gonna do with that?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I was making that shit shake
Speaker 4: in some kind of way. I was keeping my hair
Speaker 4: done like nothing else, Like I was gonna braik my
Speaker 4: own hair, like keep some little braids, and that was
Speaker 4: a cheap little haird cheap little tending out of hair
Speaker 4: to go get some brained hair. I was gonna keep
Speaker 4: my hair done, and my kids was gonna look like
Speaker 4: they had some sense, you know, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: I made that shit work. And after I had Chloe
Speaker 4: and Tyler, I got I started over. I started over,
Speaker 4: got to stay with my grandma. Still was trying to
Speaker 4: figure it out, but I just was like, fuck it,
Speaker 4: I'm finna see what this rep should do.
Speaker 2: And it did. It did a lie and it's been
Speaker 2: doing ever since.
Speaker 4: And I'm not even like it's I still be on
Speaker 4: some hard time shait with these shit because I do
Speaker 4: everything myself.
Speaker 2: Maybe you right feet what I was going through before.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how conflict and struggle will like essentially make
Speaker 3: you fucking fearless, you know, once you've been through some shit,
Speaker 3: especially as a mom, like we get shit done and
Speaker 3: like even if it's hard, even if it hurts, even
Speaker 3: if it's fucked up, like we're gonna strap up the
Speaker 3: boots and drop the kids off and do the hair
Speaker 3: and button it up and figure it out. Like you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna find a
Speaker 3: spell for this shit. Like whatever it has to be downe,
Speaker 3: you're gonna pray, like like a praying mother in a
Speaker 3: hard time. Is like really some unstoppable shit because once
Speaker 3: you've been in a place like that, like no matter
Speaker 3: where you go, like you're a fucking rock star now,
Speaker 3: you know, but like you have no fear. Nobody could
Speaker 3: tell you shit like you if you come and like
Speaker 3: triumph over your mom and your dad telling you you're
Speaker 3: not this or you can't do this, and you say
Speaker 3: fuck that, and you still be yourself and you still
Speaker 3: do what you want to do, and then you get
Speaker 3: over it and constantly get over the hurdles. It's really
Speaker 3: like shit can stop me now. But because I could,
Speaker 3: I could be there, and I know I can get back.
Speaker 4: Up right right, And I've been at the bottom twice,
Speaker 4: Like even just recently, I was telling y'all, like I
Speaker 4: lost my crib my shop, like.
Speaker 2: That was that was in it.
Speaker 4: We was hotel hopping, like living at the hotels. And
Speaker 4: I went on tour in Europe and I said, I'm
Speaker 4: coming back to Atlanta. I want to stay in Atlanta
Speaker 4: for a week. I wanna find a fucking house. And
Speaker 4: I found the house. So it's just like it be scary,
Speaker 4: but it would never be scary as it's the first time,
Speaker 4: Like I could go through it again, and I know
Speaker 4: I would be able to bring myself up out of it.
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing that keep me.
Speaker 4: From knocking myself off, you know, because I could have
Speaker 4: been going a long time ago.
Speaker 2: You got kids.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not quite that easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's depending on it's not that simple.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I'm seeing you kind of rise to
Speaker 1: the occasion each and every time is really important. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they struggled in their own right, in
Speaker 1: their own ways and stuff however, like they have seen
Speaker 1: her mother like come and rise to the occasion each time,
Speaker 1: like when they as they grow and as they become adults,
Speaker 1: like they carry that with them. Yeah, and what are
Speaker 1: your kids and what are your kids into? Are they into?
Speaker 4: Like my oldest sons, he's a rapper okay okay? And
Speaker 4: then my oldest daughter she she she's fighting meself. She's
Speaker 4: she's gay. So that's that's her personality right now. I'm
Speaker 4: ana listen, like that's her entire personality right now.
Speaker 2: That's her full time job. I'm gay.
Speaker 3: That's all I know what I want to be when
Speaker 3: I grew up.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 4: But she also likes she likes photography and my cameras
Speaker 4: and stuff, so she's gotten into that. And then like
Speaker 4: my baby girl, she can draw her she likes to draw.
Speaker 4: And my baby boy that's he's full time gamer.
Speaker 1: Like, so you had two sets of twins and they
Speaker 1: both are boys and girls.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, amazing. And I asked her this before, so
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tell you about I'm sure you're wondering.
Speaker 3: Twins do not running her fan or those baby daddy's family.
Speaker 3: So she's truly a witch unicorn mother. I went twins.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I don't take this offensively, but I literally
Speaker 1: when I got pregnant, because everyone kept asking me if
Speaker 1: I was having twins because I was so big, and
Speaker 1: I was like, twins is the devil's work. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, if I get twins, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give one of these motherfuckers away.
Speaker 4: I feel like, I feel like you think that because
Speaker 4: it is a lie. Like I'm not gonna like it's not.
Speaker 2: Like two babies on each titty.
Speaker 4: But see, it was different with each said because my
Speaker 4: older said it would be like, okay, we would be hungry,
Speaker 4: but the other one wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be hungry for like a couple of hours. So you
Speaker 2: got a little breaks in tweens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's always the case for everyone.
Speaker 4: God no, with my baby twins, like you don't talk
Speaker 4: about the devils were First of all, they're scorpios.
Speaker 2: They were bad to day before Halloween.
Speaker 4: They are like, both of them are insane.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna scorpy out. They drive me insane.
Speaker 4: It was just but like even when it was in
Speaker 4: my stomach, like the things that they would do, like
Speaker 4: my son literally was laying the way he was supposed.
Speaker 4: She was on one of my nerves in my legs.
Speaker 4: So sometimes I would get up in the middle nights
Speaker 4: if to use the bedthroom, my legs would be completely numb,
Speaker 4: like they've always they've terrorized me since they came to
Speaker 4: this world with you four years. So, yeah, they were
Speaker 4: the twins that I had to either like pump and
Speaker 4: make sure I had somebody to help me, onebody feed
Speaker 4: her and I would just besf or I would just
Speaker 4: have to be like this, and yeah, they Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2: That is a lot. It'll be a lot. It's a lot,
Speaker 2: but it's but you get used to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you just gotta get you just do it.
Speaker 2: I know when you.
Speaker 3: Got practiced the second time and you find out you're
Speaker 3: having twins, were like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I cussed out the nurse because because she thought it
Speaker 4: was funny, Like, no, she didn't think it was funny
Speaker 4: at first. Well afterwards, she thought it was funny at first.
Speaker 4: When I came in there, she was like, wouldn't it
Speaker 4: be so funny if you had twins again? And I
Speaker 4: was like, no, wish she would not be funny, And
Speaker 4: she put me up on the thing and she was
Speaker 4: her jaw dropped like she was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I put this so apologizing.
Speaker 4: I was just like, brun, I was so upsetting in
Speaker 4: my baby dad. It's like that motherfucker. It's just he's
Speaker 4: a mania. He's alcoholic, and he's just so crazy. I
Speaker 4: was so scared to tell her because I was like,
Speaker 4: he was already met that I was pregnant. You shouldn't
Speaker 4: have get right, I was pregnant. I was like, it's
Speaker 4: these niggas I call up.
Speaker 2: Was like, you ruined my life.
Speaker 3: You're not even my life.
Speaker 4: It was just like I feel like I couldn't even
Speaker 4: be mad because I kind of felt the same a
Speaker 4: little bit like damn. You know that is a bit
Speaker 4: much like two sets and Swiss is crazy. We hear
Speaker 4: those my babies. Those are my baby.
Speaker 1: But guys, you are spreading the seeds.
Speaker 3: You're spreading the seeds, baby mother seed. We need more of.
Speaker 2: Yourself one day.
Speaker 1: So we have a game on our show that we
Speaker 1: like to play with guests and it's called Trigger.
Speaker 3: The Witch Thinking.
Speaker 2: The game is scary.
Speaker 1: Basically, I say a word and you say the first
Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind. Okay, Okay, don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, mm hmm spit or swallow swallow.
Speaker 3: Answer the question.
Speaker 4: Swallow Swallow's cute?
Speaker 1: That little masturbating while your kids at home, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do yeah, right, Hello, fingering ass or looking ass okay,
Speaker 1: pegging I'm female rappers.
Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah that was generic, okay, engineering, I will say that's
Speaker 4: how I feel about it right now.
Speaker 2: It's giving very generic.
Speaker 1: H they're here, they are here there.
Speaker 2: Religion.
Speaker 1: Unnecessary, non monogamy.
Speaker 2: If that's what you're into, that's cool. I'm not in today.
Speaker 2: I want my man to myself.
Speaker 1: Big virgo energy.
Speaker 2: Mushrooms cute. I love mushroom childhood.
Speaker 1: Damn damn damn l s D. I love her toxic trait.
Speaker 1: I'm very stingy motherhood. Yeah, motherhood is fine. It's duality.
Speaker 1: Think about passion, like, what's your passion?
Speaker 2: Music, in arts, in love, those are my passions.
Speaker 1: Love, language, buying me shoes, Oh, gifts.
Speaker 2: I guess your boyfriends in here?
Speaker 3: You hear that?
Speaker 2: I know, I know she needs some more shoes. Pet peeve,
Speaker 2: oh man. Stupid ask questions. I hate stupid questions.
Speaker 3: You feel like one, say you could google.
Speaker 2: Yes, more kids, I want more kids. Yes, you're gonna.
Speaker 1: Get some twins, bitch, maybe you're fucking around and get
Speaker 1: some triplets. Oh wow, biggest regret, I don't think I have.
Speaker 4: Gee, but they're not that, they're not that series. Like
Speaker 4: my biggest for grad is. My biggest regret is being
Speaker 4: friends with the light Skin Beach.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's probably the worst thing I ever didn't
Speaker 2: want life. Can you laugh?
Speaker 3: Right, she's not talking about you. And she was a
Speaker 3: Scorpio too, not her. You know what. I was friends
Speaker 3: with the light skin Scorpio bitch that wasn't healed. And
Speaker 3: that bitch was a terrible bitch.
Speaker 2: Terrible bitches.
Speaker 4: She just she just wasn't ready to be my friend
Speaker 4: and I was, and I was kind of like I
Speaker 4: was kind of in a different place. We shouldn't have
Speaker 4: been friends. That was my biggest regret. That was evil,
Speaker 4: very evil person, very dark person. Yeah, that's my biggest.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pray for her in the name of all
Speaker 2: Scorpio bitches.
Speaker 1: Scorpio I would like to apologize on behalf of her.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm happy you still like friends after that. You know,
Speaker 3: some pictures they have one they picked one up friend.
Speaker 3: They're like pitches, You're like open and near friends.
Speaker 4: I want to find my friends, bro, I want friends.
Speaker 4: I want itches to like pull up and do shit with.
Speaker 4: I'll be at the crib with my kids like and
Speaker 4: my boyfriend like. I want friends. I will never turn
Speaker 4: down the idea of like a new friend.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Favorite position.
Speaker 2: I think I just like it from the bank. Bro,
Speaker 2: that's my that's my straight.
Speaker 1: For celebrity girl crush.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to do my celebrity girl crush for real,
Speaker 2: for real. I won't even know. I can't think of
Speaker 2: went off the top of my head. Okay, I'm so good.
Speaker 3: Do you like girls?
Speaker 4: I love girls. I love girls, but I can't think
Speaker 4: of one on the top of my head. Who could
Speaker 4: I give it to? Because I feel like I'm on
Speaker 4: the spot. Could I give it to?
Speaker 3: I give it to?
Speaker 2: I don't even know, man, I don't know. I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't come up with that. What about marriage?
Speaker 1: What do you feel about marriage?
Speaker 2: I want to get married? You do? Okay?
Speaker 1: Favorite drug?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna have to say it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: time between coke and kademene.
Speaker 1: Coke and academy.
Speaker 3: I've never academy one time with my white friends.
Speaker 1: That's what you do you do, I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: really do around black people.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you got the k like no, and you know,
Speaker 3: I know I'm from La, so I'm like and I
Speaker 3: always said, like, I'm never gonna do keademine. It's for
Speaker 3: a horse, and I'm like a small puppy like that
Speaker 3: would work.
Speaker 2: It's so nice.
Speaker 3: It was pretty chill. I would only feel comfortable enough
Speaker 3: to do with my white friends. But it was I
Speaker 3: was like, this is screovy. I guess I feel a little drunk.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things that like for me, it's
Speaker 4: like it's helpful, is the resourceful.
Speaker 3: It's also like the opposite of cocaine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it like it makes you feel good and
Speaker 4: you put your like my brain don't shut up, so
Speaker 4: put my thoughts in folders and it allows me to
Speaker 4: get shit done and like think clearly.
Speaker 2: So that's all I like kidding, Oh, thoughts in folders.
Speaker 3: I like that because my thoughts are not enfolders.
Speaker 2: But definitely that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Do you know your your other signs like you're rising
Speaker 3: and your moon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Capricorn risings Moon.
Speaker 1: I know there's some water in there, that's why you
Speaker 1: need them folders.
Speaker 2: That's not Capricorn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: So all summers on our show, we uh we asked
Speaker 3: our guests to have an affirmation? Do you have an affirmation? Man?
Speaker 4: You know this is this is that before I came away,
Speaker 4: was trying to think of one. And yeah, oh I'm
Speaker 4: not good with the affirmation thing. That's something that I'm
Speaker 4: still working on personally. Like I started doing this thing
Speaker 4: where I get up in the morning and listen to
Speaker 4: like this YouTube lady tell me all this ship about
Speaker 4: myself and and it'd be like and it helps, Like
Speaker 4: it helped me get my my juices fluing, but like
Speaker 4: to come up with them on mind own, I don't
Speaker 4: know what to tell myself to.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe I do.
Speaker 4: I write music all the time that could be considered affirmation.
Speaker 3: Absolutely poetry. Give a lyric that we could use to affirmation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could. We could use I'm gonna get money regardless.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get money regardless.
Speaker 2: Ye I like I like that affirmation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get money regardless, no matter way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, being like being in the music industry, I know,
Speaker 1: like as you said, like you know, being like mainstream,
Speaker 1: it can feel like really isolating and all that. Like
Speaker 1: how have you like maintained like I guess, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've been pressured to kind of like try to
Speaker 1: put yourself in certain boxes and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: How do you.
Speaker 1: Maintain like your I guess, like autonomy over who the
Speaker 1: fuck you are all the time, without like with without
Speaker 1: feeling pressure to kind of lean into that.
Speaker 4: Well, it's cause I'm a virgo, and if I feel
Speaker 4: like somebody's trying to control me, I automatically be like
Speaker 4: on some rebellious shit. I'm I like, I just that's
Speaker 4: what I meant when I say, like when I ask
Speaker 4: be female revers' is like everything's so generic because it's
Speaker 4: just like like it's just like everything is being put
Speaker 4: into like this box and I and it's no shade.
Speaker 4: Like I think everybody that's out right now is doing
Speaker 4: really well. I like, I like a lot of the
Speaker 4: music that's out right now, But I just feel like
Speaker 4: everybody tries to like you can't you have to be
Speaker 4: like super polished, like you have to be like this
Speaker 4: super like direct aesthetic or nobody gets it, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, You have to be able to be
Speaker 4: marketed to other people. And then like trying to play
Speaker 4: this game for a long time, Like I really just
Speaker 4: was trying to play it at first, and I was
Speaker 4: trying to fall into line and I was trying to
Speaker 4: but then you realize, like it's it. It kills you
Speaker 4: on the inside. It's like I would rather just people
Speaker 4: not fuck with me and I just get by in
Speaker 4: this shit then have to like like.
Speaker 2: Cookie C I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just it's just starting stuff about like the music
Speaker 4: industry that really like makes me uncomfortable, and I don't
Speaker 4: I don't like having to deal with the people that's
Speaker 4: in it because they're arrogant, they're fucking rude, they fucking
Speaker 4: think they fucking talk down to you, even though you're
Speaker 4: the artist, Like you're the reason why I'm here, I'm
Speaker 4: the reason why you're here, but you think you're above me.
Speaker 2: I don't like that.
Speaker 4: I don't like having to socialize with people that I'm
Speaker 4: not familiar with, like just because we do the same thing,
Speaker 4: like just because we make music the me you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm saying when in the beginning, like I can't, I
Speaker 4: want to work with everybody, but I didn't know how
Speaker 4: weird it was like you work with somebody, and now
Speaker 4: everybody think y'all are best friends, and now you have
Speaker 4: to deal with all this, Like people want to never
Speaker 4: ask you questions about you.
Speaker 2: They ask you questions about this artists because she's they
Speaker 2: might be bigger than you. So now your whole interview
Speaker 2: is about other people.
Speaker 4: Like it just I think I'm just like I'm too,
Speaker 4: I want to be an individual.
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, I think a lot of especially
Speaker 1: I mean it's always been for women in general that
Speaker 1: are artists, like they have to especially like when it
Speaker 1: comes to like even like their body image, like having
Speaker 1: to fit into these certain modes. Like I think about
Speaker 1: just like the female rappers that are out, it's all
Speaker 1: about like body. Yeah, like you gotta like look and
Speaker 1: you gotta have this. They gotta like have the booty,
Speaker 1: you gotta like have.
Speaker 3: Eybody looks very much the same.
Speaker 2: The weave that.
Speaker 1: Goes past the ankles is the new look too, although
Speaker 1: it looks pretty fly.
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of like that. I was like
Speaker 2: I kind of like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish that I had a lace front artist
Speaker 3: and it.
Speaker 4: And like, but like as a fucking mother, First of all,
Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I don't have the funds.
Speaker 2: For all that, I got the funds.
Speaker 1: But also I'm like I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: these women too, like they're not they're not mothers. Some
Speaker 1: of them are like, you know, look at Cardi B
Speaker 1: and shouldn't like that. But like there's this unrealistic expectation
Speaker 1: of what like we're supposed to look like, and it's like, no, bro,
Speaker 1: like this is what I this is me and this
Speaker 1: is what.
Speaker 2: Works, right.
Speaker 4: And then and then you get in these spaces and
Speaker 4: these and these people are like, well, we like you
Speaker 4: for you, and then they bring you in like okay,
Speaker 4: so we want to give you some money because we
Speaker 4: like you. And then they say, but you gotta change this,
Speaker 4: you gotta change.
Speaker 3: Like stipulation to that.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: I don't like they and I would really just do
Speaker 4: this ship myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Also the image is like essentially temporary, right, like you know,
Speaker 3: like there was a time where thick eyebrows are in
Speaker 3: then skinny ass eyebrows. Everybody plucked them out, and then
Speaker 3: they're like, that's not anymore. Everybody tattoo the tattooed them
Speaker 3: back on and ship everybody like fat asses, and it
Speaker 3: likes like now everybody's Kim's white again. Now everybody taking
Speaker 3: their ass out, and it's like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: it's like, who the fuck can keep up with that?
Speaker 3: You might as well be what the fuck you look
Speaker 3: like and accept that, and then like we all have daughters,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So if I go like
Speaker 3: pump a bunch of shit in myself or pump it out,
Speaker 3: whatever you do, it's cool, but it's like to make
Speaker 3: sure it's to please you and to be in your
Speaker 3: own aesthetic or you even fucking know what that looks like,
Speaker 3: because then you're just like chasing the chasing the whatever,
Speaker 3: the trend, and that's forever, every ever changing. People don't
Speaker 3: know what the fuck they like.
Speaker 1: I think like I think about like I was thinking about,
Speaker 1: like Doja Cat, how she like shaved her head off
Speaker 1: and her hair off and like, you know, took her
Speaker 1: eyebrows off and nigas we're ripping. I was like, because no,
Speaker 1: because she kind of did fall she kind of like
Speaker 1: shifted her image and was like very commercial and like
Speaker 1: historically that's not really her vibe anyway, Like if you
Speaker 1: follow her from before, like she's a weird.
Speaker 2: Though, and that's that's why.
Speaker 4: That's why I be tripping out of people like getting
Speaker 4: mad at her for being her said, because I'm just
Speaker 4: like she's always been kind of strange.
Speaker 1: She had but she she she tricked, No, she tricked
Speaker 1: people to get in the door.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I feel like I don't even think
Speaker 2: that's true because the song that got her like O
Speaker 2: was the movie and that was the weirdest song of mos.
Speaker 4: I'm just like those a kid has always been like hello, quirky,
Speaker 4: Like that's her vibe.
Speaker 2: I got like, will people be expecting? But she did?
Speaker 4: She did, She did a few pop songs, and I
Speaker 4: feel like it's because she can, like she can't step
Speaker 4: into that bag and she can't play that game.
Speaker 2: It was like but this, but this, but you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They don't want women to be multi layered, multi dimensional,
Speaker 1: like we have to once we present ourselves in a
Speaker 1: certain way, we have to stick to that. And I
Speaker 1: was like when people were tripping about her, her her.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she looked kind of cool, cool
Speaker 1: her eye, her eyebrows and ship. It was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, more of this, you know, because as women
Speaker 1: like we do, like we are held at this standard
Speaker 1: where we cannot change, we cannot shift, and if we do,
Speaker 1: we're tripping.
Speaker 2: Like something's wrong, Brittany, like we're going, Brittany.
Speaker 4: Right, everything has to be like for them for niggas
Speaker 4: eyes and she right.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes I won't like alien.
Speaker 3: I don't even like niggas that much.
Speaker 2: They are Niggas have horrible.
Speaker 4: Taste, horrible, and they.
Speaker 1: Admit it like the like they will. They say, you know,
Speaker 1: like we we really only we can fuck a whole.
Speaker 1: You know, how to compartmentalize. It's not emotional like you
Speaker 1: can find one quality about one quality like in a woman,
Speaker 1: Oh she got a fat ass fucking or she's cute face,
Speaker 1: she got a nice mouth, I'm gonna put my dick
Speaker 1: in there, So where's women? I mean, we could do
Speaker 1: that too, but more more times than not, there has
Speaker 1: to be a little bit something else, a little bit
Speaker 1: more of someone else. And that's why women be tripping,
Speaker 1: and that's why we be killing niggas. And that's that,
Speaker 1: and that leads me, and that leads me to our
Speaker 1: next what a Segways transition?
Speaker 2: Do you like that transition?
Speaker 3: Wow? I didn't see that coming like that. That was
Speaker 3: very smooth.
Speaker 1: Say this is this is why I'm Oprah.
Speaker 3: You know it is October and you know we're awesome
Speaker 3: witchy bitches. First of all Erica and my favorite holiday
Speaker 3: is Halloween. Like even me and my kid we're planning
Speaker 3: Halloween costumes like no, sorry, my spit planning fucking Halloween
Speaker 3: costumes and goddamn May and I like Luna, we have
Speaker 3: eight months.
Speaker 2: We don't have to buy it right now.
Speaker 3: Barry already has her holoweencaust I know, and Luna's piss
Speaker 3: because I got her yet I'm not just chill. We're
Speaker 3: gonna get it. But we've been talking about how we're
Speaker 3: like I want to do some creepy ship for Halloween,
Speaker 3: like I want to like I want to like maybe
Speaker 3: we should learn about a serial killer woman and a
Speaker 3: daughter and let's like, let's talk about it, let's get
Speaker 3: drunk and talk about it.
Speaker 2: We'ven't really are we going to get drunk? Are we
Speaker 2: gonna get drunk? Is that a question?
Speaker 3: What hello, we didn't bring anything to get drunk.
Speaker 2: Erica like right now, oh, right now, Oh, we can
Speaker 2: get what's you're doing after?
Speaker 3: Come on, it's only noons.
Speaker 2: I thought you about on Halloween. I was like, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: We should have got I should. I meant to bring
Speaker 3: you tequila and listen. I looked at your page and
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, she's a witch. I could tell.
Speaker 3: Then I was like, damn, she likes tequila like us.
Speaker 3: I was like, bring tequila to the recording and then
Speaker 3: we're always late, so that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: But it's fine. We can get Sequila after this.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we really wanted to do a story about a killer,
Speaker 3: and in Erica's deep Google research, she found out that
Speaker 3: she discovered that you have a female serial killer lineage,
Speaker 3: and we were both very intrigued and also like, damn,
Speaker 3: we're really are witches, because not only did we manifest
Speaker 3: you at our live show, performing and being your friend,
Speaker 3: and you just happen to have serial killer woman. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the chances of that. Yes.
Speaker 4: I only found out about this when my my actual
Speaker 4: grandmother was dying or whatever and I was talking to
Speaker 4: her and she was just telling.
Speaker 2: Me about all this different stuff. And she was telling me.
Speaker 4: That about where my middle name came from and Christine,
Speaker 4: and she told me about one of my elder grandmothers
Speaker 4: she used to murder. She used to murder abusive men
Speaker 4: basically or whatever. But she never really expanded on that
Speaker 4: detail because she was saying it like she was like
Speaker 4: like she was saying like it's not a good thing.
Speaker 4: Like she was mentioning like my music and my witchcraft
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and she was like, and this
Speaker 4: is like the spirit of this and this and this.
Speaker 4: She was a real Christian woman too, and she was
Speaker 4: like that's when she told me about it, But she wasn't.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't.
Speaker 4: She didn't want to give much details. So it's just
Speaker 4: like I don't know much. I don't know a lot
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 1: She don't know if she got convicted.
Speaker 2: It was like a family secret. Everybody was new. She
Speaker 2: didn't tell me, Like don't pat Christine off right, she didn't.
Speaker 4: Tell me, And of course, like my mom isn't gonna
Speaker 4: talk to me about it at all. So it's just
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna have to like really dig deep and
Speaker 4: try to figure that out and try to see if
Speaker 4: I can find that and yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 4: what time period that was, but I want to find
Speaker 4: that out. I ended up making an entire album based
Speaker 4: upon that story, but I had to leak it because
Speaker 4: people was playing in my mother fucking face and they
Speaker 4: were they were playing with me, with me, like trying
Speaker 4: to trying to make money out of my music without
Speaker 4: my permission, you know what I'm saying. So I just
Speaker 4: leaked it and then it got copyrighted, but it's still
Speaker 4: available on the Inn or whatever. But what it was,
Speaker 4: it was I brought up my three most like pivotal relationships,
Speaker 4: like with men, the ones that like made and broke me,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And I killed them off
Speaker 4: like I started. Yeah, I started off with like each
Speaker 4: one was like when you first meet I mean, like
Speaker 4: him where you fucked up at and where you killed him.
Speaker 2: And it was like that, but did you kill him
Speaker 2: different different ways.
Speaker 4: I had a song called Decapitate, Yeah, it was different ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was different one.
Speaker 3: I know that sounds very healing, y'all need to.
Speaker 2: Kill it was? It was so healing. We liked in
Speaker 2: the studio for like we met Elm in three days.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: The studio off like hello, like shrooms and ship like
Speaker 4: really just got like real like in there and we
Speaker 4: did that ship and just for me to have to
Speaker 4: waste because my fuckers thought that she was just like property,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Like no, like y'all
Speaker 4: saw me cry, like y'all not just want to throw
Speaker 4: this shit out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, without my permission, But does seem very healing. That
Speaker 3: seems like like a creative therapy in ways like it was.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think we forget that we can finish the
Speaker 3: story if we want to, yes, and whatever way we
Speaker 3: want to, Yeah, and then that kid essentially heal how
Speaker 3: you like, change the story right?
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly what is that album called? It's called Christine Christine.
Speaker 2: I love that. Listen Christine.
Speaker 1: I don't know her her life details, but doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like she was a bad woman.
Speaker 4: Now it does sound like she was a bad woman
Speaker 4: for me either, but I would I'm definitely I just
Speaker 4: got my ancestry and shit, dang like I'm definitely trying
Speaker 4: to you gave.
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, I've.
Speaker 4: Done so many speeding in cups and piecing and cups.
Speaker 4: They can have it whatever they want to do with it.
Speaker 4: At this point, global warming, you know whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel that I'm Nigerian and then like I just
Speaker 4: I just really want to like get back into like
Speaker 4: Diggins's figure out where I come from, because I feel
Speaker 4: like it's probably it has to be interesting, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Of course it's all interesting.
Speaker 3: I just had a thought about like you coming from
Speaker 3: religious parents and you like being you the exploratory, spiritual,
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it my own way. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's probably like the manifestation of that. I think when
Speaker 3: women like are, like a lot of us have been repressed,
Speaker 3: repressed through religion and reformed and reform and like you said,
Speaker 3: your mom's an artist, but now she's confused.
Speaker 2: She's definitely confused, you know.
Speaker 3: Like I think I think like women like us, like
Speaker 3: you are the manifestation and of that of that uh
Speaker 3: like repression, because at some point that she has to
Speaker 3: come out and it may come out in your seat
Speaker 3: and and then like here you are, and it's just
Speaker 3: like it's not you're no longer going to be like
Speaker 3: you're breaking the cycle and you're gonna do what you
Speaker 3: want to do, and it comes out this way and
Speaker 3: you're expressive and you're putting your music out there and
Speaker 3: your art out there for everybody else to feel. So yes,
Speaker 3: you know, I know you said you didn't feel like
Speaker 3: you're identified with your parents. It's probably like you're the
Speaker 3: like the birth of their repression.
Speaker 4: Probably you are absolutely right, You are absolutely right, because
Speaker 4: that repression runs very deep.
Speaker 2: Like I can see it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Look, my dad us one of those people who's like,
Speaker 2: you've been that cry, but it would.
Speaker 3: Because he probably wants to cry.
Speaker 2: You will literally whoop be for crying, like you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I definitely believe that that that could definitely
Speaker 4: be a thing for sure, for shit.
Speaker 3: And now you have the freedom to express yourself, whether
Speaker 3: that be in tears and music and your apothecary, like
Speaker 3: you can literally be expressive and vulnerable and not serve
Speaker 3: men or whatever like you know, I mean, lily, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and without the attachment of feeling guilt or shame about it.
Speaker 3: And that's some powerful lass ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And yeah, rewriting your story for your children too, like
Speaker 1: they're not going to, like you guarantee that they're not
Speaker 1: going to walk that past that maybe everyone else in
Speaker 1: your family has had to walk.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, they definitely are very free people.
Speaker 3: How do they feel about their mom being a fucking
Speaker 3: rock star that like my mom's ship.
Speaker 2: We having fun.
Speaker 4: They like like we was fucking eight year olds at
Speaker 4: the club and shit, Like they get to come to
Speaker 4: my shows sometimes they be on stage like it's fun,
Speaker 4: we have fun. Yeah, I'm taking them to Mons with
Speaker 4: me this weekend.
Speaker 3: For your birthday party.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know Holladay wearing Halloween costumes today. I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they be ready early, they'd be so ready.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I've been telling my kay, I'm like, you doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be Halloween for us to wear a costume.
Speaker 4: True, it doesn't, it doesn't, but they just get geared
Speaker 4: up for it because it's like that's their birthday too.
Speaker 4: So they be home with the Octobers like Halloween.
Speaker 1: She going on, Yes, the vibes are high, the witchy
Speaker 1: vibes are high.
Speaker 3: The spirits are high, right, Like, I feel like the
Speaker 3: spirits very high in octob Bird. This is the time
Speaker 3: October ancestors are coming to.
Speaker 2: You're in early November. With that's I needed.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'm going to Mexico and I'm
Speaker 1: going to experience a deal a little more Thos. I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be this year. It's not
Speaker 1: going to be this year.
Speaker 2: I also want to do New Orleans for Halloween.
Speaker 4: I want to do New Orleans for Halloween. Low key,
Speaker 4: but I was just, I was just I won't.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I did. I went to Voodoo Fest one.
Speaker 3: You're in New Orleans and is that around Halloween?
Speaker 2: How was it? It was amazing.
Speaker 1: But even when we went a few weeks or not
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago or.
Speaker 2: You yeah, wait, I did. I was when we came.
Speaker 1: When we went there, I could feel the energy in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. You feel there.
Speaker 4: No, New Orleans is one of those places and not sill.
Speaker 4: Hawaii is one of those places. Yeah, it's Hawaii. Like
Speaker 4: I had a mental breakdown in Hawaii because that's you
Speaker 4: can you can feel that like energy brew It's it's
Speaker 4: it's some real.
Speaker 2: Power for there. Like I don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: but I can't.
Speaker 4: Should that should humbled me, like this should brought me
Speaker 4: made me feel very smile being that the own way.
Speaker 3: I think everybody's really afraid to delve in the darkness.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's like it's devil shit, you know, like
Speaker 3: like don't look at it doesn't exist, you know, even
Speaker 3: as talking about like murder and death and ancestors and
Speaker 3: spirits and like our witchiness and like spells and shit,
Speaker 3: people are so fucking scary. But mostly it's a reflection
Speaker 3: of people are scared of themselves and the darkness and themselves, yeah,
Speaker 3: and are afraid to address like the dark shit, Like
Speaker 3: have I healed this? This is where I come from?
Speaker 3: This is the dark shit my parents has gone through?
Speaker 3: Have I adopted this? What are my toxic traits?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: People will not are unwilling to sit with it or
Speaker 3: even like that you could have you you are and
Speaker 3: have adopted like all the energy and of all the
Speaker 3: people that came before you, all their pain. And if
Speaker 3: you don't address it and you don't sit with it,
Speaker 3: however way you do it, I don't know how the
Speaker 3: Christians do it. Whatever they suppress it and tell you
Speaker 3: like to get down on your knees and like it's
Speaker 3: devil shit. But it's very important to delve into the
Speaker 3: darkness and like in a way that is not necessarily
Speaker 3: like it's not all scary, it's necessary.
Speaker 2: Right, It's very necessary.
Speaker 4: I feel like the only reason that I was able
Speaker 4: to learn that is because I started dropping ascy like
Speaker 4: it really like broke my brain like made a new one.
Speaker 2: Or something because your rebirth to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's so crazy, And it's just like the
Speaker 4: stuff that I the stuff that I feel, the stuff
Speaker 4: that I go through. Sometimes I don't even be understanding
Speaker 4: how people can't. But it's because I because I feel
Speaker 4: like I think they just shut off certain parts of
Speaker 4: their brain, like you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 4: feel like it's necessary to open that part up in
Speaker 4: order to be like a whole human because everybody just
Speaker 4: be living half day life, trying to trying to preciate
Speaker 4: down act like they not this, act like they're not
Speaker 4: they like kill the part of you there cringes.
Speaker 2: I saw it on the internet, like don't.
Speaker 3: Care, like crazy cringe and want to avoid it like
Speaker 3: open that door. Yeah, I dive in bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the name of the episode killing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think I love that. I love
Speaker 2: that too too.
Speaker 3: I mean it's true.
Speaker 2: That bar you need write that in a rap. I
Speaker 2: don't want.
Speaker 3: That was my tweet, tweeting is property public property?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I had an acid experience and I felt like all
Speaker 3: the female all the women's pain from before me And
Speaker 3: I don't know how I knew.
Speaker 2: It was that, but I did.
Speaker 3: Immediately, I was like, and it came out of me,
Speaker 3: like out of my mouth, like I screamed it out,
Speaker 3: and then I fucking burst it into cosmic universal energy.
Speaker 3: And then afterwards I felt like so relieved, but I
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck was that? But she is
Speaker 3: a motherfucker, But in a good way. I really did
Speaker 3: feel like a release and a rebirth, and something opened
Speaker 3: up in my brain that I could access that part
Speaker 3: of me that I hadn't been able to access before.
Speaker 3: So like, I'm not recommending that everybody do acid. How
Speaker 3: about her acid finds you? That's usually why when you
Speaker 3: should do it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Now, I mean, I think for all all all the
Speaker 1: different drugs are now. I think we're in a place
Speaker 1: now where they're becoming a little bit more normalized, especially mushrooms.
Speaker 1: Mushrooms for now are like cute for people. But I
Speaker 1: was watching this What was.
Speaker 2: The show I was?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I started watching it, but then I fell asleep because
Speaker 1: I always fell asleep watching TV.
Speaker 2: But it was some show.
Speaker 1: Where like these this guy or these different people were
Speaker 1: taking drugs in in like in hospitals essentially to like
Speaker 1: like one person was like taking like multiple doses of LSD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, therapy.
Speaker 4: I've been seeing that lately. They've been doing like the
Speaker 4: Kademy therapy. Academy therapy. It was like LSD therapy.
Speaker 2: I can see how that shit could be helpful. And
Speaker 2: I'm oh, now, y'all niggas wrong. Now it works.
Speaker 1: Huh now it works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's drugs is becoming a little bit less troble.
Speaker 4: But the way black you right, especially coke, like I
Speaker 4: know they.
Speaker 3: Will you will be Whitney Houston. Yeah. Yes, I was
Speaker 3: with some fellow white podcasters shout out to uh sex
Speaker 3: talk with my mom, and I was saying something like, oh,
Speaker 3: I did cocaine. I canna talk about it on the show.
Speaker 3: I was like no, They're like, why you talk about
Speaker 3: everything else. I was like, bitch, I'm black. They were like,
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, it's different for us.
Speaker 2: Karen, her name is actually Karen.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, Karen, I we could talk about
Speaker 3: smoking weed, and that's pushing the envelope. I'm like, here,
Speaker 3: I am talking about it now. I've gotten braver in
Speaker 3: five years.
Speaker 4: But I'll talk about it in my music because it's
Speaker 4: so cares like everybody want to be the only thing
Speaker 4: that I that I will say is like.
Speaker 2: It could become Remember remember evil light skinned bitch friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that bitch once we filled out, that's shed as
Speaker 4: on your knee. This bitch is a cocaine.
Speaker 2: She's probably a cocaine. She's not, she's not.
Speaker 4: Just like, you didn't have no problem with it, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You did everything else with me,
Speaker 4: But coca is where everybody draws, especially black people, and
Speaker 4: I blame like the crack Jimmy, what it did to
Speaker 4: our people.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: But so way, you know how many fucking functional corporate
Speaker 3: cocaine I'll be tripping because I'm just like every rich
Speaker 3: white person I know does.
Speaker 1: Cookinem we're from so it's daughter's teachers probably doing coke
Speaker 1: to get through today.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know how she would do it. But
Speaker 3: I mean, we're from LA, so it's very casual where
Speaker 3: we're from. But I realized that it's not casual for everybody.
Speaker 3: So I'm always like, has a discretion except today because
Speaker 3: I'm with baby mother, soide.
Speaker 4: No, no, Sometimes I will pull that shit out and
Speaker 4: I think it's just hit a little bump and people
Speaker 4: be like I was just like, I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
Speaker 3: I don't really feel like that's real. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's very rare. I feel like mostly most people do cocaine.
Speaker 4: I think most people do cocaine too. I think most
Speaker 4: people just are scared to talk about it because they
Speaker 4: think they're going to get changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then might and I might get
Speaker 3: judge right now, it's only very rare. It's very rare
Speaker 3: occasion when I would like to party.
Speaker 1: Everything we say here is for entertainment purposes. Are you entertained?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? We ask our guests if they have a.
Speaker 2: Story?
Speaker 1: Four story time.
Speaker 3: Stories?
Speaker 2: I have one, I think. Okay.
Speaker 4: So one time I was in uh Baltimore with my
Speaker 4: boyfriend and he had an album live stream type of situation.
Speaker 2: We're here Richmond. It was getting right baby, and we
Speaker 2: had like a we.
Speaker 4: Had like a he was doing like this live stream
Speaker 4: situation or whatever. But before we live streaming, we're getting drunk,
Speaker 4: like we're taking shots at tequila, like straight out the
Speaker 4: bottom or whatever. And so we had a rental car
Speaker 4: and it's I'm funny because like for him to do
Speaker 4: this loud stream. He had to wear like this full
Speaker 4: on Dicky's jumpsuit with like with this record, like he's
Speaker 4: in he's in costume basically, and so like he was
Speaker 4: like I gotta get ready to go on, but I
Speaker 4: was like, no, come on, let's go to the cars.
Speaker 2: Go to the car.
Speaker 4: And so, like the car was right in front of
Speaker 4: the venue, in front of the record shops. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to fuck him in his car, like right in front
Speaker 4: of the venue. So he drives around to like the
Speaker 4: whole other side and we like had like this food
Speaker 4: blown out like quikie in the car while anybody's looking
Speaker 4: for him, like where the fuck freak guy, like where
Speaker 4: he at supposed to be in there doing his job
Speaker 4: and I'm fucking in the backseat.
Speaker 2: It was a fucking rental car. So yeah, that was
Speaker 2: a cute huh. It was the first seat.
Speaker 3: Hell, she was drunk, clearly she had a lot of shots.
Speaker 3: He back up, correcting her it.
Speaker 4: Was the vaccine. It was a vaccine. Yeah, we was
Speaker 4: very drunk. His friends was like the car was a
Speaker 4: rocking yeah, because he had just moved to he had
Speaker 4: just moved to where I was at. So this was
Speaker 4: like his first time his friends for some seeing them
Speaker 4: since he and they was like they was.
Speaker 3: Like no, no, they know me.
Speaker 2: But they were just like, what have you done? He's
Speaker 2: so different.
Speaker 3: I put that witch pussy on him, That's what I did.
Speaker 2: I think it was just drunk like they was like,
Speaker 2: what have you done? It was like, now, y'all never
Speaker 2: seen him drunk before?
Speaker 3: Did you make it to the live stream?
Speaker 2: He made it. He did a great job too, of
Speaker 2: course he did perfect. Yes, yeah, he did great.
Speaker 1: Activated So we asked maybe mother to pull a card
Speaker 1: at the top of the show. We actually have a
Speaker 1: new deck. Thank you Dutch, our fellow tribe member. Shout
Speaker 1: out to our ladies and Discord. If you haven't joined
Speaker 1: our discord. We have a lot of women over there.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing community where women are literally talking all
Speaker 1: fucking day long. Like the amount of alerts I get
Speaker 1: on my phone and.
Speaker 3: The amount of Angel number alerts I get, Like, I'm like,
Speaker 3: everybody in our Discord is a witch. Like it's it's
Speaker 3: one eleven. Sometimes I'm like it's three thirty. It's like
Speaker 3: a different time, and somewhere else I'm like, wow, the
Speaker 3: witches are together, Okay, in community we have we might
Speaker 3: need like a community, like a community manifestation, like everybody
Speaker 3: at one eleven Pacific standard time, let's all put an
Speaker 3: energy towards this, because then that will definitely come true.
Speaker 2: But Dutch came to like, no.
Speaker 3: But we're a cult of freedom. This is the good
Speaker 3: Mom's call. Is the cult of.
Speaker 1: We won't ask you to know weird shit. Okay, well
Speaker 1: we will, but not know, like we'll be.
Speaker 3: Weirdship for your healing and your freedom. You do whatever
Speaker 3: you want to do is the weird ship. Can you
Speaker 3: imagine the world that we live in that doing whatever
Speaker 3: you want to do is weird? Yeah, to be you,
Speaker 3: it's crazy, it's like revolutionary. Do whatever the fuck you
Speaker 3: want to be a woman, say how you feel. Don't
Speaker 3: subscribe to niggas. Anyway, we went on a tangent about
Speaker 3: our cult. Yeah, at the Margarita room, a gifted US
Speaker 3: African goddess rising oracle deck and usual, let me use
Speaker 3: taro for tarot time. But I'm gonna try a little
Speaker 3: something different. So what did you pull?
Speaker 2: My dear? And it's like pleasure, It's.
Speaker 3: It's like, isn't this the time till you have on.
Speaker 2: Your forehead conda that this minds us from sailor moon.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: Okay, very similar, similar for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, tan It goddess of pleasure, which is aka freedom,
Speaker 3: you guys. This is also a part of the cult
Speaker 3: Tunisia Temple Conjurors element Air. TANet was the goddess of
Speaker 3: the stars in ancient Carthage. And I hope I'm saying
Speaker 3: this right today. All the way over in Abiza, they
Speaker 3: still have pleasure filled full moon midnight table dancing parties
Speaker 3: in her name. I think we shall have one tonight.
Speaker 3: You are thirsty for more pleasure. You can't thrive when
Speaker 3: life feels dry. You're made of laughter and stardust, not sawdust.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 3: Pleasure is your birthright, a gift from the universe. Embodiment.
Speaker 3: How much juicy pleasure can you stand? Turn up the
Speaker 3: pleasure principle. You secretly feel that you don't deserve it.
Speaker 3: But pleasure is a healing and manifesting force. Laughing, loving
Speaker 3: and orgasmic joy is holy good Dick, hold your hands
Speaker 3: over your reproductive area and say, aloud, I deserve pleasure.
Speaker 3: I deserve the goddess. Declaration for this card is it
Speaker 3: feels good to feel good.
Speaker 2: It feels good to feel good.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Tanna is in our cult, you guys, symbolism.
Speaker 1: She's the leader of the cult.
Speaker 3: We don't worship any mine except Tanne, ourselves, the pussy
Speaker 3: Woomboni and Tannate. I think I want to get drunk
Speaker 3: on to the tattoo shop. You have two tattoos to
Speaker 3: get money over money? Okay, Well, our best friend Agenda
Speaker 3: is fool you guys, all right, Wow a busy day. Honestly,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. Go what happed?
Speaker 2: This was so fun.
Speaker 3: Literally a part of our tribe. You don't even know
Speaker 3: you're part of the cults. I'm here and baby mother,
Speaker 3: when fucking Erica saw you on Spotify, she knew.
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you need to listen to this song.
Speaker 3: She literally told me. She's like, you can't give.
Speaker 1: No pussy to one nigga who I used to get
Speaker 1: a pussy because that pussy gonna be everybody be. I
Speaker 1: was like, the fuck is that so fun? The fucking true?
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, nigga did that to me?
Speaker 3: It's the theme. It's it's the cult theme. So now
Speaker 3: we have a leader, a theme. We're getting far everybody
Speaker 3: can join discord. If you want to go to church,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get you.
Speaker 2: In there link in episode description.
Speaker 3: Thank you everyone listening. I hope this episode has been
Speaker 3: witchy and you're enjoying Occulate October. This is the closing.
Speaker 3: I help you make sure you do your own spell
Speaker 3: this month and this evening, and make sure you uh
Speaker 3: check us out on Instagram We're fine, Good Mom's Underscore
Speaker 3: Bad Choices or on YouTube Good Mom's Bad Choices. You
Speaker 3: can find me at Mila with an h underscore map
Speaker 3: and Erica at watch Erica on Instagram, and Baby Mother,
Speaker 3: where can they find you? And tell us where we
Speaker 3: can find your APO apothecary.
Speaker 4: Path carry is closed until further notice, but it'll be back.
Speaker 4: But my social media mostly all of them I feel
Speaker 4: like is baby Mother, b B Y m U, T
Speaker 4: h A. I'm on all music streaming sites, but my
Speaker 4: newer music I keep it on band camp, Babymother do
Speaker 4: band camp dot com.
Speaker 2: But on Twitter? Could you be active on Twitter? I
Speaker 2: thought I saw like Mother Mother lificent that's the that's
Speaker 2: the that's like the tag. Okay, I'm Twitter Twitter.
Speaker 4: Slo mother' Lefferson is actually my latest projecting. It's on
Speaker 4: band camp, so.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3: Well, let's go get drunk, but just let's go get.
Speaker 1: Drunk and Happy Halloween, Halloween, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 2: Thank you'll, thank you, thank you, Bye God next time.
Speaker 2: H m h.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: That