Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky and Joki, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, Tyros dresses. Hey boo, it's me Roz dras Fales.
Speaker 1: We are back with a new episode. I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with you, and this might be a little confident of
Speaker 1: me to say, but this episode today, I promise you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to file this in my top five favorite
Speaker 1: episodes that we've had yet. It is truly incredible because
Speaker 1: I'm joined by Bonnie McKee, who is I think our
Speaker 1: first pop star we've had on this show. She is
Speaker 1: an incredibly I'm in awe of Bonnie McKee and if
Speaker 1: you don't know who she is, she is a incredibly
Speaker 1: successful songwriter. She writes tons of songs for Katie Perry.
Speaker 1: I mean she literally wrote California Girls Teenage Dream Last
Speaker 1: Friday Night, part of Me, Wide Awake, Roar. But she's
Speaker 1: also I mean she wrote hold It Against Me by
Speaker 1: Britney Spears. She wrote a couple of songs with Kasha,
Speaker 1: who I absolutely love, and so many people. So she's
Speaker 1: so rad And you know, one thing that I think
Speaker 1: about all the time is this pattern that I've seen
Speaker 1: with pop stars and ghosts. It seems like so many
Speaker 1: female pop stars have experienced ghosts, and we talk about
Speaker 1: that little bit, and actually we talk about my favorite
Speaker 1: pop star ghost story, which is Kesha's ghost story, which
Speaker 1: is we may have talked about on the show before.
Speaker 1: Kesha claims to have had sex with a ghost and
Speaker 1: she wrote a song about it. And who wrote that
Speaker 1: song with her, Bonnie McKee. So we get into that.
Speaker 1: But I was looking up other pop stars that have
Speaker 1: had ghost experiences, and I mean so many of them.
Speaker 1: We're talking Demi Lovado, Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus. But I
Speaker 1: found this one interesting from Ariana Grande. So this was
Speaker 1: on People dot com, she says. Of course. The singer
Speaker 1: told Complex when asked if she believed in ghosts and
Speaker 1: aliens in twenty thirteen, I've had a ghost demon experience,
Speaker 1: she continued. We were in Kansas City a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago and went to this haunted castle and we're so excited.
Speaker 1: The next night we wanted to go to Stole Cemetery,
Speaker 1: which is known as one of the seven gates to
Speaker 1: Hell on Earth. I felt this sick, overwhelming feeling of
Speaker 1: negativity over the whole car, and we smelled sulfur, which
Speaker 1: is the sign of a demon, and there was a
Speaker 1: fly in the car randomly, which is another sign of
Speaker 1: a demon. I was like, this is scary, let's leave.
Speaker 1: I rolled down the window before we left and said,
Speaker 1: we apologize. We didn't mean to disrupt your peace. Then
Speaker 1: I took a picture and there were three super distinct
Speaker 1: faces in the picture. They were faces of text book demons. Well,
Speaker 1: if you guys don't know about Stole Cemetery, I would
Speaker 1: love for you to go listen back to one of
Speaker 1: our early episodes with Kyle Ayers who went to Stole
Speaker 1: Cemetery in Stole, Kansas, which is another terrifying episode. So
Speaker 1: go check that out because that's one of those places
Speaker 1: that a part of me wants to go to. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm not trying to deal with
Speaker 1: sulfur and fly smell around me. Now, a future pop
Speaker 1: star that may or may not have had a paranormal
Speaker 1: experience last week is none other than your girl ros
Speaker 1: dressfuls Now. I'm not sure if this is paranormal or not.
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys decide, but something really strange happened. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a long story, but basically, I
Speaker 1: found myself staying in an airbnb for a couple of
Speaker 1: days and I just had a little bit of a
Speaker 1: lone time to you know, ride and work on some
Speaker 1: creative stuff. And on night two, I was staying in
Speaker 1: this Airbnb and at about five as the smoke detector
Speaker 1: went off like so loud it made me jump out
Speaker 1: of my bed. I did not smell any smoke, but
Speaker 1: the detector was going off. I could not get it
Speaker 1: to turn off. I finally pressed the right button and
Speaker 1: it turned off, and it was kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: it was shocking, but whatever, not that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: Well then I wake up the next morning and I
Speaker 1: get a message from a listener named Laura. Hi, Laura,
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing your experience. Laura tells me that they've
Speaker 1: been having some ghostly experiences in their home with animals
Speaker 1: kind of acting strange and various little technical things going
Speaker 1: on around the house. And then that night before the
Speaker 1: smoke detector goes off give or take around the same
Speaker 1: time that the smoke detec went off in my room.
Speaker 1: What is up with that? It's like we synced it up.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know, is that a
Speaker 1: paranormal thing. Is it just a coincidence. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but it was very strange. And when I woke up
Speaker 1: the next day and read that, I was completely gagged.
Speaker 1: So thank you Laura for sending me that. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk to the one and only Bonnie McKee on
Speaker 1: with the show. Oh my god, Hi Bonnie, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm so good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great. You know, it's nice to just like take
Speaker 1: a break from the news and you know, just think
Speaker 1: about spooky things, like spooky things that are not actually
Speaker 1: happening right this very minute.
Speaker 2: You know, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, you know, I have a lot of I
Speaker 1: have a couple of mutual friends that have told me
Speaker 1: that you have ghost stories, and I'm a fan of yours,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe it, and now I want to
Speaker 1: hear all of them. And there's you know, there's this
Speaker 1: thing pop stars seem to ghost seem to love pop stars,
Speaker 1: And I don't know why that is. Why is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that being a creative, you know,
Speaker 2: you're more open to kind of other worldly things. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm always channeling something else. From a different plane,
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm a little bit of a ghost magnet.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean if you I google, like, who are
Speaker 1: like celebrities that have ghos? Stars? And it's always like
Speaker 1: literally every single pop star. I think every pop star
Speaker 1: has had a ghost story, like Ariana Grande, Miley, Cyrus,
Speaker 1: Lady Gug like all of them. Yeah, I mean even Kesha,
Speaker 1: who you've worked with.
Speaker 2: I wrote a song with Kesha about having sex with
Speaker 2: a ghost.
Speaker 1: Yes, supernatural, that's right. So how did that happen? Did
Speaker 1: she come to you and she's like Bonnie I have Yeah, she.
Speaker 2: Told me the ghost, she had a sexual experience with
Speaker 2: the ghost, and then I helped her capture that story
Speaker 2: and we made it into a bop.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did she like go into detail?
Speaker 2: I yes, I think that she's told the story a
Speaker 2: bunch on like Conan and stuff. But yeah, she I
Speaker 2: mean she told me the same thing. It's not an
Speaker 2: act of being. Apparently something creeped into her bedroom at
Speaker 2: night and she felt the weight of the spirit on
Speaker 2: or something. I don't remember. It's a long time ago,
Speaker 2: but that shit is real. That it is real.
Speaker 1: Wow, So what's happened to you? Supernaturally.
Speaker 2: Well, where do I start?
Speaker 1: Do you have that many stories?
Speaker 2: I do. I have a good amount of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with the first one. What was the
Speaker 1: first thing in your life that has happened supernaturally one?
Speaker 2: I mean I always felt like I was kind of
Speaker 2: tuned in a little bit psychic with people my life,
Speaker 2: but so my whole childhood I had a bit of
Speaker 2: like the sixth sense kind of thing going on. But
Speaker 2: the first time that I saw something, I was in
Speaker 2: San Antonio because I feel like all the ghosts live.
Speaker 1: In South I hear so much about San Antonio ghosts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's haunted AF So I was there on tour
Speaker 2: with the Seattle Girls Choir long ago. I was like
Speaker 2: fourteen years old, and there was like a competitive choir
Speaker 2: thing we were there doing or something, and all the
Speaker 2: girls wanted to go to like the jazz fest on
Speaker 2: the riverbed or whatever, and I was like over it
Speaker 2: because I was like a raver and I was like, look,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to watch Red Shoe Diaries in my
Speaker 2: hotel room. So I stayed behind, I was by myself,
Speaker 2: and it was just the TV was on. And first
Speaker 2: of all, let me just say the hotel that we
Speaker 2: were staying at was budget because you know, we were
Speaker 2: just a bunch of high school girls and choir chaperones
Speaker 2: and stuff, so it's not like they had us at
Speaker 2: the Ritz, right. So, like one of the girls unfolded
Speaker 2: the couch bed and there was like broken glass and
Speaker 2: a syringe in it. You know, it was no, it
Speaker 2: was CD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow. Okay.
Speaker 2: So I was sitting by myself watching The Red Shoe
Speaker 2: Diaries and it was just the TV light on and
Speaker 2: there was like, uh, there were French doors that kind
Speaker 2: of divided the room. It was like a little sweet
Speaker 2: and I saw something out of the corner of my
Speaker 2: eye and I looked over and there on the shitty carpet,
Speaker 2: I saw a girl on all fours looking up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was looking up at me on all fours and
Speaker 2: it was just a few flashes and I just went
Speaker 2: completely cold. The hair on the back of my neck
Speaker 2: stood up. And I mean, logically, you know, your whole
Speaker 2: life people say ghost aren't real and lah dah dah,
Speaker 2: but it's like and so you don't believe it at
Speaker 2: first because you're just like, I know what my eyes
Speaker 2: just saw, but I logically know that can't be real, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like what do you do when your eyes there's something
Speaker 2: right before your eyes? And so I freaked out. I
Speaker 2: ran and I went to one of the chaperone's rooms
Speaker 2: and was like hysterically crying. Nobody believed me, and that
Speaker 2: was that was the first thing I saw. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was all always a black sheep and the girl's choir.
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest. But so no one ever believed me.
Speaker 2: But I saw that shit, and there's that's That's all
Speaker 2: I have to say about that.
Speaker 1: That is so spooky. How do you sleep in a
Speaker 1: room when that's happened? Were able to?
Speaker 2: You know, I was. I had other girls that were
Speaker 2: staying with me, so we were, you know, sharing bed
Speaker 2: and whatever. And then the middle of the night, there
Speaker 2: was like a light started flashing and we heard a
Speaker 2: voice that was like caution, caution, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the fire alarm went off and so everyone had to exit.
Speaker 2: And of course when I heard the voice, I jumped
Speaker 2: out of bed and was like, she's back. But then
Speaker 2: we all had to file out and they were and
Speaker 2: no one ever figured out why the smoke alarm went off.
Speaker 2: What like nobody pulled the fire alarm. It was just
Speaker 2: like always some bullshit going down.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, I can't even imagine working there.
Speaker 1: It's probably constant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrifying. So that was the first ghost I
Speaker 2: ever saw. Okay, and then if you're interested in hearing anymore,
Speaker 2: would you?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you kidding me? I want to
Speaker 1: hear everything?
Speaker 2: Okay. My next ghost also took place in the South.
Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta and I was on a radio
Speaker 2: tour and we were staying at this hotel that was
Speaker 2: like one hundred years old. I guess they threw like
Speaker 2: the Down with the Wind premiere party there or something
Speaker 2: that was their claimed fame.
Speaker 1: Wait, what's a radio tour?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's where you go around promoting your songs from
Speaker 2: different radio stations.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yep.
Speaker 2: Really early and singing on the radio at seven am.
Speaker 2: It sucks.
Speaker 1: And that is it with like some guy that's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're here live.
Speaker 2: Yes, what it is? Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: The worst at like six am.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we got to the hotel. I was there
Speaker 2: with my assistant, who I who had just been hired
Speaker 2: to like chaperone me on the road basically because I
Speaker 2: was only like seventeen or eighteen, and we went into
Speaker 2: the hotel. I was staying in my room. I didn't
Speaker 2: know my assistant very well. She had her own room,
Speaker 2: but I was so freaked out that night I just
Speaker 2: had the hebegeebis that I called her embarrassed and was like,
Speaker 2: can I stay in your room? I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: I feel unsettled. I don't know why. And she was like,
Speaker 2: oh fine, So I slept in her room. The next morning,
Speaker 2: I went back down in my room to do my
Speaker 2: vocal warm ups and get ready to go to the radio,
Speaker 2: and I had my headphones in. I was doing my
Speaker 2: warm ups and I heard a knock on the door,
Speaker 2: so it took up my headphones. Go open the door,
Speaker 2: nobody's there. I'm like, huh, that's weird. Now in this
Speaker 2: hotel room, there was a closet to the left that
Speaker 2: had it was like a walk in closet that had
Speaker 2: accordion doors inside on each side, where once I was
Speaker 2: a closet and once I was like a washer dryer. Right,
Speaker 2: So I had noticed that one of the accordion doors
Speaker 2: had been left open, and I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: weird that the housekeeping didn't close it, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just whatever. So then I was like, that's weird. There's
Speaker 2: nobody here. So I put my headphones in, I start
Speaker 2: warming up again, and then I hear a loud crash
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the hell was that? And I
Speaker 2: knew I just felt something. And I go and I'm like,
Speaker 2: looking around, what was that noise? And I see that
Speaker 2: the according door that had been opened had slammed itself
Speaker 2: shut so hard that the other side had opened itself.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I
Speaker 2: marched downstairs. I told my assistant. She's like, you're crazy.
Speaker 2: I went to the front desk and was like, I
Speaker 2: need a new room. My room is haunted. And they
Speaker 2: were like they usually don't start acting up until after six.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, so this is the thing
Speaker 2: that nobody told me about. So I went did my
Speaker 2: radio show. I came back and I told my assistant.
Speaker 2: I was like, you have to come with me to
Speaker 2: my room to help me pack. I'm not going back
Speaker 2: in there by myself. And she's like, there's nothing to
Speaker 2: worry about. You're just imagining things. So she goes back
Speaker 2: in my room and like packing my stuff up, and
Speaker 2: then we hear like a loud, ripping noise and she's like.
Speaker 2: I was like, I've told you something's weird. And we
Speaker 2: look in bathroom and the shower curtain had just like
Speaker 2: ripped itself open. She was like, Okay, let's get the
Speaker 2: talk out of here. I was like, thank you. See
Speaker 2: I'm not imagining things. So that place was like that
Speaker 2: was like probably the most like kind of angry feeling
Speaker 2: one Yeah, where like didn't want me there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, slamming things and you know, ripping shower curtains.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was intense. Oh my god, that is insane. But
Speaker 1: so you are actually scared of this stuff, Like you're
Speaker 1: not like you haven't gotten used to it at this
Speaker 1: point or you're not like, Okay, different.
Speaker 2: Things have different feelings, and you know, I like, I
Speaker 2: picked up a demon in San Diego once and what
Speaker 2: do you wait?
Speaker 1: What you say that all casual ps. I'm in San
Speaker 1: Diego right now as we're recording.
Speaker 2: This look out. I went to this like expensive resort thing.
Speaker 2: Was like when I got my first check after being broke,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna treat myself. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: to this place. It's called the Golden Door, right, So
Speaker 2: I go. It's like a women's retreat where you get
Speaker 2: a massage every day and there's like meditation and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So I went and I got some reiki healing.
Speaker 2: But it was the last. First of all, we all
Speaker 2: live in like different little bungalows. Everyone has her own bungalow.
Speaker 2: So it was the last treatment of the day. It
Speaker 2: was like nine pm. So this lady comes in to
Speaker 2: do reiki treatment on me. She lays me down, She's
Speaker 2: not even touching me, but she's like manipulating my energy
Speaker 2: or whatever. And then all of a sudden, I just
Speaker 2: went completely cold. I felt like I couldn't breathe. I
Speaker 2: started like hyperventilating, and I opened my eyes and I
Speaker 2: saw like a black, shadowy, swoopy thing happening, and was
Speaker 2: like what the fuck? And but I couldn't talk. I
Speaker 2: was like completely frozen. And she was just like could
Speaker 2: see me like freaking out and with my eyes open
Speaker 2: and like not being able to breathe and stuff, and
Speaker 2: she was just like, okay, I just hang in there,
Speaker 2: like got me through it. Finally like it went away,
Speaker 2: and then I sat up and was like what the
Speaker 2: fuck was that? And she was like, you just have
Speaker 2: to ignore them. And I was like ignore what and
Speaker 2: she was like the demons. I was like, what are
Speaker 2: you talking about? This is reiki healing, like what? And
Speaker 2: she's like, oh well, I forgot to mention like I'm
Speaker 2: I'm a medium, like I'm a channeler. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: that might be some information I might want to have
Speaker 2: if you're going to be met with my energy, you know.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, oh, well, what do I do?
Speaker 2: And she's like all right, well, good night, eat, my
Speaker 2: shift's over. I'm like cool, and I'm just like in
Speaker 2: this bungalow by myself and it was like pouring down
Speaker 2: rain outside. This is really weird. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if this scounts a ghost. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: But there was like a little table and chair set
Speaker 2: up saying by the window, and I just felt like
Speaker 2: something was just sitting there staring at me. Like I
Speaker 2: just felt like I was being watched. I felt like
Speaker 2: I was not alone. It felt sinister. I called my mom,
Speaker 2: who's into like woo woo shit. I was like, Mom,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, and she's like get
Speaker 2: your crystals, like send it light, right. So then I
Speaker 2: hear a knock on the door. Now they're knock on
Speaker 2: the door, y'all, and I'm like, it's like midnight, like what.
Speaker 2: So I opened the door and there's this random little
Speaker 2: blonde girl standing there crying in the rain, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's up? And she's like, I didn't know where else
Speaker 2: to go. You seemed like the only person that would understand.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, this is like a full movie. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess, come in. Like she's standing in
Speaker 2: the pouring rain, so I'm like, come in. So she
Speaker 2: comes in and I like make her some tea. She
Speaker 2: just starts babbling about how her husband's trying to kill her,
Speaker 2: how maybe she needs to get to him first, and
Speaker 2: she's looking for a hit man, all this weird, and
Speaker 2: I was just like okay. And then she like gestures
Speaker 2: to the chair that I felt like something was sitting there,
Speaker 2: and she said, and when the devil's just sitting right there,
Speaker 2: you just gotta laugh.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, this was not a guest, right?
Speaker 1: She was just like some I guess she was a guess.
Speaker 2: So I was like okay, And also like I had
Speaker 2: never seen her before at this place, like and you know,
Speaker 2: we we have like the breakfast hall where you see
Speaker 2: all the other women you're in like yoga classes together
Speaker 2: and stuff. I was like, I've never seen this girl.
Speaker 2: I don't know who she is. I don't know why
Speaker 2: she's talking about the devil. After I just had this weird,
Speaker 2: spooky experience. But then I just like grabbed my crystals
Speaker 2: and I was like cinder light, cinder light. And then
Speaker 2: she eventually kind of like calmed down, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: get rid of her. She was there for like an hour,
Speaker 2: just like psychobabble. And then the next day I finally
Speaker 2: got rid of her and I went down to breakfast
Speaker 2: and I was like, guys, this chick came to my room.
Speaker 2: What the hell? They're like, Oh, yeah, she hasn't left
Speaker 2: her room at all. She's really weird, like we don't
Speaker 2: know like who she is, what she's doing. I was like,
Speaker 2: what did she pick my room to come to in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, in the boring.
Speaker 1: Because what did she say? You're the only one that
Speaker 1: would understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, well, how do you know? Like
Speaker 2: you don't know anything about me? Like why am I
Speaker 2: the one you chose, Like, so anyway, that was really strange.
Speaker 2: And then I just felt like the whole time I
Speaker 2: was for the rest of this retreat, like there was
Speaker 2: just something after me, Like I just felt like this
Speaker 2: dark presence. And then I came back to LA and
Speaker 2: I saw it again. It showed up in my doorway
Speaker 2: at my bedroom. Yes, this swoopy thing, and I was
Speaker 2: like something followed me, something is now attached to me,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what to do. So it took
Speaker 2: me a couple of years of like going to different
Speaker 2: kind of witch doctors and witches and you know, energy people,
Speaker 2: and then I finally got some black candles, did a
Speaker 2: little spell thing and like the candle cracked. It was
Speaker 2: like a whole thing. And then and then it finally
Speaker 2: went away. But it took me a while, Like how long.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was a part of your life?
Speaker 2: A couple of years? No, it was a couple of years,
Speaker 2: And it was a couple of bad years, Like it
Speaker 2: was like a dark, weird time where I just felt
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like myself. I was super depressed, like
Speaker 2: my self worth was in the gutter. I was in
Speaker 2: a shitty relationship, I couldn't. I just couldn't see the light.
Speaker 2: It just felt like it completely took me over.
Speaker 1: And then once you did this candle ceremony, they stopped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt I felt better. I felt better.
Speaker 1: Wow. But so was the woman that was doing the reiki.
Speaker 1: She was I mean, I would assume she was trying.
Speaker 1: She was removing that from you, right, but not really
Speaker 1: like what was she doing?
Speaker 2: But like I was, I'm particularly susceptible to things like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it was something that was just
Speaker 2: already around and she like opened up my energy to
Speaker 2: it and it attached to me. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But then like the because she worked there,
Speaker 2: she was like a messusse or whatever, a reiki person,
Speaker 2: and so like every day I would go to her
Speaker 2: and be like what do I do? Like can you
Speaker 2: get rid of it? She's like, no, no, I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's fine. I was like, you knew exactly what I
Speaker 2: was talking about when I sat up and was like,
Speaker 2: what the hell was that? And you by name? And
Speaker 2: she was just like, yeah, I don't know, You'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Like did you write a bad YELP review? Because I
Speaker 1: would I should have. Do you not stay here you
Speaker 1: will get a demon. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But at least that woman that knocked on your door,
Speaker 1: she was you believe that she was a human living lady.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it just seemed to me almost like
Speaker 2: something was in her, like she was just like her
Speaker 2: eyes were super dilated black and she was just talking crazy,
Speaker 2: and I was like, is she possessed?
Speaker 1: Like what is this?
Speaker 2: How did she find me? The timing is weird. After
Speaker 2: this lady just left and this swoopy thing disappeared.
Speaker 1: So hold up a second. Okay, my first thought because
Speaker 1: you said I believe, you said a girl knocked on
Speaker 1: your door, and then you said husband. So I was
Speaker 1: thinking like a child at first, and I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you if she had black eyes, because do
Speaker 1: you know about the black eyed kids? No good scare you,
Speaker 1: but uh, this is something that comes up in a
Speaker 1: lot of paranormal talks that there's this. Uh it's sort
Speaker 1: of a legend, but there are credible accounts of these
Speaker 1: children that are known as the black eyed children, and
Speaker 1: basically they have black eyes and they knock on your
Speaker 1: door and they ask to be let in, and then
Speaker 1: they say if you let them in, they I mean
Speaker 1: no one really knows. I guess I don't know, but
Speaker 1: they're We've talked about it before. There's there's quite a
Speaker 1: bit to read that I could send you, but basically,
Speaker 1: no one knows if they're aliens or if they're if
Speaker 1: they're got I feel really best like putting this on you.
Speaker 2: I do know it's good because I'm just like, I
Speaker 2: never really could explain like who she was, why she
Speaker 2: came to me. What I mean, she was maybe twenty,
Speaker 2: She wasn't a.
Speaker 1: Child, but it sounds like you talked people that were
Speaker 1: there and they're like, oh, we know who she is.
Speaker 1: So like it's not like she was.
Speaker 2: No, she wasn't like a mystery woman, but she just
Speaker 2: I had never seen her, and I don't know why
Speaker 2: she would pick my room and say that I was
Speaker 2: the one she needed to talk to. You know. H
Speaker 2: really weird.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So your mom is like into this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom is into chancedental meditation. She's That's like
Speaker 2: that was kind of like our religion growing up in
Speaker 2: the house, Like we never went to church or anything,
Speaker 2: but we always were like into meditating and mantras and
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So oh, that's great spiritual.
Speaker 2: You know, she always she had tarot cards and a
Speaker 2: crystal skull and that kind of stuff. So yeah, she's
Speaker 2: like all about energy stuff. So she's someone I can
Speaker 2: always call if I'm like something where it's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. So did you you bring crystals
Speaker 1: with you places when you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah always?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's great. So wait, what are these other stories?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I was fini what a dream guest.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got stories for days. I was in
Speaker 2: Nashville once again. The South is where they all live.
Speaker 2: I was in Nashville and what were you doing there?
Speaker 2: I My old manager had their management company building or
Speaker 2: whatever it was on Writer's Row. There's a whole street
Speaker 2: of old Southern mansions that they converted into publishing houses,
Speaker 2: and so they turned the attic into like an apartment
Speaker 2: so that writers can come and stay there and whatever.
Speaker 2: So I was staying there for like two weeks, and
Speaker 2: on the weekends I'd be there by myself, and a
Speaker 2: night I'd be there by myself. It was this huge
Speaker 2: Southern mansion that was like four stories High'd have to
Speaker 2: go up these four huge epic stairways to get to
Speaker 2: the attic and every time I walk up the stairs,
Speaker 2: I'd feel like I was being followed, and I end
Speaker 2: up like running upstairs and closing the door. So then
Speaker 2: things started happening where like I was brushing my teeth
Speaker 2: in the bathroom and then just the shower turned itself on,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's weird. Maybe it's like a
Speaker 2: plumbing thing because I'm turning the same cap, but it
Speaker 2: was all like newly remodeled and nice. It's like that's weird.
Speaker 2: And then like the TVs would turn on randomly because
Speaker 2: there was like it was a huge house, all these
Speaker 2: different bedrooms, and I would hear talking downstairs and be
Speaker 2: like what the hell? And I go downstairs and the
Speaker 2: TV would be on and I'd hear like sweeping in
Speaker 2: the hallway. And then at night, like it was like
Speaker 2: that heavy southern humid air, you know, and I'd be
Speaker 2: real hot at night and muggy, and I'd be trying
Speaker 2: to sleep in the attic big mistake, and I would
Speaker 2: feel like there was just something standing over me, staring
Speaker 2: at me, and I would just like hide under the
Speaker 2: covers and just be like please go away. And then
Speaker 2: and then my mom came to visit, and we I
Speaker 2: told her because she's a photographer, and I was like,
Speaker 2: can you like take some pictures and see if catching things.
Speaker 2: She didn't, but she was like in on. I was like,
Speaker 2: something's weird and uh. And that night, in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night, the alarm went off and there was
Speaker 2: like a million entrances to this house. But so the
Speaker 2: police came out to turn off the alarm whatever. And
Speaker 2: the door that had set off the alarm is this
Speaker 2: random door that's like under a stair wade that's completely
Speaker 2: covered with ivy from the outside, so you can't even
Speaker 2: see that there's a door there. And so I was like,
Speaker 2: that's weird. And so they turned the police turned it
Speaker 2: off whatever, and then twenty minutes later went off again,
Speaker 2: and I was like my mom was like, let's get
Speaker 2: out of here, like this is this is weird. And
Speaker 2: then come to find out, I told my publishers. I
Speaker 2: was like, I know this sounds crazy, but like something's
Speaker 2: weird here, Like the TV's are turning on, the shower,
Speaker 2: like someone moved my guitar from like the bed to
Speaker 2: the piano bed, like something is weird. They're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how we How is the ghost that lives here.
Speaker 2: I was like, what, so they knew about it? And like,
Speaker 2: how we was a friendly ghost? I mean, to be fair,
Speaker 2: it was it was always more like mischievous. It didn't
Speaker 2: feel particularly threatening, but it was like a present and
Speaker 2: like there would be days would go where I would
Speaker 2: be like hanging out in the attic playing music or whatever.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't feel anything, and all of sudden I wouldeel
Speaker 2: like something just walked in, you know, yeah, and then wow.
Speaker 2: Now my publisher had lived in that house when they
Speaker 2: first got the building, and he said that he always
Speaker 2: put his slippers by his bed so that when you
Speaker 2: wake up the morning, he put his feet and slippers.
Speaker 2: And then he woke up on morning and his slippers
Speaker 2: had been turned around towards the bed. So it was
Speaker 2: all like a little weird creepy things like that.
Speaker 1: Now do you think do you think that someone should
Speaker 1: tell people that before they stay in the house.
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean I think like I had
Speaker 2: heard little thing where they're like, oh, how wee like
Speaker 2: and I was like really talking about like I didn't
Speaker 2: know what I was. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: how he's a ghost? Got it?
Speaker 1: Do you have other stories?
Speaker 2: Well, i've recently I feel like I may have a
Speaker 2: little something in the house that I'm in right now.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, and it's not I don't know, it's not
Speaker 2: like it's not bad, it's just still. Look. I call
Speaker 2: it the toast ghost because it started out like I
Speaker 2: live alone, right so or I was before quarantine and
Speaker 2: now I have somebody here to keep in the company.
Speaker 2: But I lived alone and I'm the only person that
Speaker 2: uses the toaster, and I always put it all the
Speaker 2: way on low because I like it to just be
Speaker 2: very lightly toasted, no big deal. And I like three
Speaker 2: or four times I would put my toast in, I'd
Speaker 2: go do the dishes or whatever, waiting for a toast,
Speaker 2: and then it would just start smoking and it would
Speaker 2: be turned all the way up and it would be
Speaker 2: completely blackened, like goss toast. And I was like, what,
Speaker 2: this is so weird. And I like, I have a
Speaker 2: housekeeper that comes every once in a while, and I
Speaker 2: was like, did you turn like did you clean the
Speaker 2: toaster and maybe and she's like no, no, I didn't
Speaker 2: touch it. I was like okay. And then recently and
Speaker 2: then my friend was here in the kitchen. It all
Speaker 2: seems to revolve around the kitchen, but now it's been
Speaker 2: spreading throughout the house. She was doing something in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: She said that a pen from the living room project
Speaker 2: dialed into the kitchen just flew in the kitchen and
Speaker 2: she was like, uh, like that's not the dog doing something,
Speaker 2: you know, like a pen flew into the room. And
Speaker 2: like she told me that I hadn't told her about
Speaker 2: the toast ghost, and she told me about the pen thing,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's really weird because there's a
Speaker 2: there's a toaster ghost. And then and then like a
Speaker 2: screw came out of the cabinet randomly, that like a
Speaker 2: screw that you'd have to screw up, like it would
Speaker 2: have to screw all the way up in order to
Speaker 2: fall out, and it was out, and like the cabinet
Speaker 2: was just like hanging off, and I was like, that's
Speaker 2: weird because it's all painted it, like the screws are
Speaker 2: painted over, you know. Weird. And then recently, just in
Speaker 2: the past week, my heat was turned up to like
Speaker 2: eighty three degrees. I was like, why is it so
Speaker 2: hot in here? What is going on? And now the
Speaker 2: heat keeps setting itself to eighty degrees and obviously it's
Speaker 2: been hot, so it's not like I like preprogrammed it
Speaker 2: by accident to go to eighty degrees for everybody coast.
Speaker 1: Ghost is trying to toast you.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm saying, like it's turning up the heat,
Speaker 2: so I don't know what that's about. And then a
Speaker 2: bunch of my my gear, like my musical gear, stuff
Speaker 2: like my compressors and stuff was just all randomly turned off.
Speaker 2: My microphon, everything was turned off. I usually lived on
Speaker 2: so I can just I don't have to do a
Speaker 2: whole setup every time I work, and everything was turned off.
Speaker 2: And I asked my boyfriend that I'm quarantining with. I
Speaker 2: was like, did you turn off my gear? And he's like, no,
Speaker 2: obviously there's been nobody else here, like we've been in lockdown.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, have you ever seen the video?
Speaker 1: It's like a I want to say, maybe the eighties
Speaker 1: or early nineties, a news report of a woman with
Speaker 1: a haunted toaster.
Speaker 2: What No, I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Bonnie, it's iconic. I feel like I
Speaker 1: need to send it to you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. This woman she okay, first, she's trying
Speaker 1: to make the toast and demonstrating on the air that
Speaker 1: this huge flame comes out of it. And then she
Speaker 1: has a piece of toast that I believe says Satan
Speaker 1: lives carved into it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then it ends with the the reporters like, so
Speaker 1: why do you keep it? And she's like, well, it
Speaker 1: makes good toast.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, though I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I call it captain crunch toast. If it's like too long,
Speaker 1: I need just like a light.
Speaker 2: To scratch up the top of my mouth exactlyms everywhere.
Speaker 2: I just want like a lightly toasted, nice little raisin bread.
Speaker 1: You know, exactly. Wait, but how long have you been
Speaker 1: at this place?
Speaker 2: Oh? About two years?
Speaker 1: And did the toasting when? Did that start?
Speaker 2: About a year in?
Speaker 1: So what do you think that is? Do you think
Speaker 1: that there?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it started I all started having
Speaker 2: the same time. There was a toast, There was a pen,
Speaker 2: there was a screw with cabinet, and I was talking
Speaker 2: to my friend that the pen projectile of at and
Speaker 2: like we had just a friend of ours, an acquaintance
Speaker 2: really we hadn't seen in years, had just passed away,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's weird, Like we're definitely not
Speaker 2: the first people that this person would visit if someone
Speaker 2: had passed away, you know, and that was the only
Speaker 2: thing we could think. I was just like, I don't
Speaker 2: really know. But I also, you know, I do a
Speaker 2: lot of spell stuff. I'm a bit of a I'm
Speaker 2: a bit of a witch. Yeah, but I mean I'm
Speaker 2: doing you know, it's all just like you know, manifestation
Speaker 2: and positive thinking stuff and whatever. But I might have
Speaker 2: to I don't know, but I don't really mind this one.
Speaker 2: It doesn't I don't feel anything. It's a thing. I
Speaker 2: don't feel a particular energy. And I've never felt afraid.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything. It's just weird things happening like that,
Speaker 2: where I'm like, maybe this is just you know. When
Speaker 2: I was in the fifth grade, I had to do
Speaker 2: an end is a year paper on a subject of
Speaker 2: my choice. So I chose because I was fascinated by
Speaker 2: ghosts and Poulter guys and things like that. I wanted
Speaker 2: to research poultry guys, so I started researching Poulter guys.
Speaker 2: I went to the library because that's what you did
Speaker 2: in the nineties, and I started reading up on it,
Speaker 2: and basically the theory that I chose to write about
Speaker 2: was that Poulter guys are not necessarily spirits, it's just
Speaker 2: accidental telekinesis where it's like a lot of things happen
Speaker 2: with like adolescent girls in the home, where there's like
Speaker 2: a lot of emotional stuff happening, and you know that
Speaker 2: it's our own energy moving things around, right, which made
Speaker 2: a lot of sense to me. Like there's a story
Speaker 2: about a woman who just got a phone call that
Speaker 2: her husband had been in a car accident, and she
Speaker 2: reached to grab her purse and it jumped away from her,
Speaker 2: you know where it's like when we're in this heighten
Speaker 2: emotional state, then like I think you can kind of
Speaker 2: move things accidentally. People start to get freaked out, and
Speaker 2: the more afraid you get, the more energy you're building,
Speaker 2: and the more shit starts happening, you know, right. I
Speaker 2: thought that was kind of an interesting theories and like
Speaker 2: maybe it's just me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's usually I think centered around one person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: adolescent girls or adolescents, it's usually a lot of those cases.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it could be something from your energy. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Do you know if if there's like any kind of history.
Speaker 1: Do you know the history of the place that you
Speaker 1: live in?
Speaker 2: It's like a mid century was built in the fifties.
Speaker 2: Nothing that I know of. I know there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of like weird just you know, building and staff
Speaker 2: where they've changed the walls around and whatever, but nothing
Speaker 2: that I know of.
Speaker 1: No, it will keep me outdated, probably just me.
Speaker 2: I'm probably just being being a poultized, you know me.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.
Speaker 1: Now have you ever heard a ghost voice in all
Speaker 1: of your I.
Speaker 2: Think that after my grandmother passed, I heard her call
Speaker 2: my name once. That's different, it's weird. Everyone in my
Speaker 2: family had that experience where it was like early in
Speaker 2: the morning and I heard a woman's voice call my
Speaker 2: name and I thought that it was my roommate at
Speaker 2: the time or whatever. And I got up and she
Speaker 2: was fast asleep, and I was like huh. And then
Speaker 2: I talked to my mom and she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: Grandma like called my name. I was like, huh, it's
Speaker 2: unlike a young woman's voice, so I figured it was
Speaker 2: probably her younger self. Like when you die, you probably
Speaker 2: don't want to stay an old lady.
Speaker 1: You know right, Wow.
Speaker 2: That's the only voice I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Well have you are you familiar with the term EVP?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, it is time to EVP or ev plicse Okay.
Speaker 1: This is a game we play on the show where
Speaker 1: basically I go to YouTube and you know, there's all
Speaker 1: kinds of paranormal investigators, amateur professional. They they go on
Speaker 1: these ghosts ons and they find these ghost voices and
Speaker 1: then I like to have my guests listen to them
Speaker 1: and tell me what you think the ghost is saying
Speaker 1: or what the ghost hunter thinks it's saying. And sometimes
Speaker 1: it's an EVP, sometimes it's an ev Polase, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: hear it. Okay, I got two of them. The first
Speaker 1: one is from on YouTube. Their name is EVP Field
Speaker 1: Processor and this was at the Meeks me E e
Speaker 1: Ks meeks a State, which is in Hayward, California, a
Speaker 1: big mansion up north. Okay, what do you hear? The
Speaker 1: ghost sang, Bonnie. Okay. It's a lot of background noise
Speaker 1: and a faint voice. Could you even hear a voice?
Speaker 2: Vaguely?
Speaker 1: Let me try it again.
Speaker 2: Ah. It sounded like the beginning of a daft punk song.
Speaker 1: To me exactly. Let me play it one word time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like electronic music to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's some guesses. Uh, some options. Is it a
Speaker 1: I've got a mouth on me? Maybe it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: some sassy ghosts. It's like, so you know, uh, is
Speaker 1: it B that's a loud party? Is it C help
Speaker 1: me out mommy? Or D what's up Bonnie? Time here it.
Speaker 2: Is I got a mouth on me.
Speaker 1: It's actually helped me out mommy, is what they believe.
Speaker 1: Hail played it one more time now that you know that, it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a robot to me, doesn't you know?
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes it's hard because there's so much background noise.
Speaker 2: Where it's like how may how mommy? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like it sounds like it sounds like death punk.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that's a death punk ghost Get Lucky.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say that's an EVP. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you're leaning toward ev Please maybe another one. This
Speaker 1: is from the same group on YouTube, and this was
Speaker 1: at the Saugus train station, which is in Santa Clarita.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear a woman like an actual paranolman
Speaker 1: invest together woman. She kind of cuts off the ghost
Speaker 1: voice because she says okay, but you hear a really
Speaker 1: creepy voice before she says okay, so it's really quick
Speaker 1: here it is. What's it saying?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Ooh mm hmmm, I'll do it again.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't like that. That just gives me chills.
Speaker 1: That one, I know. I don't like that one at all.
Speaker 2: Let me hear it again. I can't understand what it's saying,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like hissing, something like something mad. It
Speaker 2: sounds like sounds like let me hear it. It sounded like
Speaker 2: black cat kind on. We heard again? Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: know what are their guesses of what it's saying.
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it a bush light, you know like Annheuser
Speaker 1: bush bush light?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Is it be flash light? Is it c push play
Speaker 1: or d It's just like a creepy demon growling.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Here's another. Let me play it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, push play?
Speaker 1: Oh God, that.
Speaker 2: Just gave me chills.
Speaker 1: Well, they think it's flash light. H I can kind
Speaker 1: of hear it. I'll do it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear that. Yeah, that's that sounds like
Speaker 2: a real one to me because it gives me chills,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Noah, especially if you're like recording and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you like later hear that and you didn't
Speaker 1: hear it in the moment. That's terrifying. Would you go
Speaker 1: go hunting?
Speaker 2: You know what? I'm just like, I'm so sensitive to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that I you know.
Speaker 2: I don't allow ouiji birds in my house because I'm
Speaker 2: just like I don't want the trouble, you know. Yea, although,
Speaker 2: like I went on like a road trip to the
Speaker 2: South and was like stated a bunch of haunted hotels
Speaker 2: supposedly and didn't have shit, so I was a little disappointed.
Speaker 2: So like, yes, I do want to like seek it out,
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm curious and it excites me. But as
Speaker 2: far as like being bringing things into my house, I
Speaker 2: try to stay away from that. But I might go
Speaker 2: on a little ghost hunting adventure.
Speaker 1: All over come with me?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm down.
Speaker 1: Well that's about it. But what's going on with you?
Speaker 1: Tell us where people can find you. I see that
Speaker 1: you are part of this fun quibi show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. I'm Friensis Darren Chris,
Speaker 2: who is a very talented everything. He's writes amazing songs.
Speaker 2: He can sing, he can act, he's funny, he's amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm always at tramp Stab Granny's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that place. Yeah, so he asked me
Speaker 2: to come on and guess star on the show. So
Speaker 2: I got to play the pop star, like the dumb
Speaker 2: dumb pop star that they write a song for. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so that comes out on Quibi on the first. So
Speaker 2: you have to deal with the app and I think
Speaker 2: it'll be totally worth it because all the people involved
Speaker 2: in the content that's being created is like super high quality.
Speaker 2: It's all of like the biggest directors, like the director
Speaker 2: that did my episode, it did the she directed Clueless
Speaker 2: and a bunch of other stuff. You know, it's like
Speaker 2: really high quality, like little pieces of content where they're
Speaker 2: short episodes, they're like fifteen minutes or something. And you know,
Speaker 2: people are watching bullshit on the internet all day long,
Speaker 2: so it's like you might as well watch some quality content,
Speaker 2: you know, totally so check out Quick Chew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then where do people find you?
Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram. It's just at Bondie
Speaker 2: key and Twitter and YouTube is just just money, Just
Speaker 2: Bondy McKey, Spotify, go listen to my songs.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bonnie. Oh my god, what an episode guys.
Speaker 1: That was fun and I am so excited to be
Speaker 1: recording some more episodes coming up. Make sure you are subscribed. Hey,
Speaker 1: do me a big favor and give the show five
Speaker 1: stars on Apple Podcasts. And if you have a ghost story,
Speaker 1: you could write it in a five star review, or
Speaker 1: you could just you know, write a nice five star review.
Speaker 1: And it'd be nice if you could tell your friends
Speaker 1: about the show too. I am on Instagram at roz
Speaker 1: dress Falles. I have a Facebook page. Also, we have
Speaker 1: our Facebook group ghosted by Roz dress Fales, where you
Speaker 1: can join and tell us some ghost stories in there
Speaker 1: as well. I would love to do a listener episode soon,
Speaker 1: so if you have a ghost story, please send me
Speaker 1: an email at ghosted by Oz at gmail dot com
Speaker 1: and make sure you write in the subject line listener episode.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay.
Speaker 2: Bye.
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