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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast doesn't believe in Bigfoot. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Be Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. My name is Dan Hanss. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: in a room filled with heroes, Mark Seessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just count up the things to be disappointed about and

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Speaker 1: upset about right now. Almost lost my hearing. There was

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Speaker 1: a ear can issue just now. We just talked about

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Speaker 1: they totally marked botch the terminator, terminator sequel rollout. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about that before we went there. Uh, he can't go.

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Speaker 1: The way they've handled everything since T two is a disaster.

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Speaker 1: The Jets and Browns are combined three and thirteen, which

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Speaker 1: feels like both of their final records. At this point,

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Speaker 1: Greg will not stop talking about how they're not giving

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Speaker 1: him a proper starch in the dinner meal, which which

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Speaker 1: Greg the other side of Greg, the other side of Greg,

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Speaker 1: I know. And then he would then say, well, you

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Speaker 1: can't really complain about free I should? I should I

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Speaker 1: always kept something in the freezer, you know, because ultimately

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Speaker 1: they're giving us free food. So it's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna it is just crazy swings and carrots.

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Speaker 1: That's not a meal. You gotta have something to balance whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm going on. I'm with you. But you claim

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Speaker 1: that it's tough to complain. It didn't seem that tough

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Speaker 1: for you to complain about this. I don't believe in Bigfoot,

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Speaker 1: but I could spend hours on cryptozoology, all right. See,

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Speaker 1: West is fine. This is the idea. You know, West

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Speaker 1: never he divorced himself from the Bengals, so he has

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Speaker 1: no trauma to deal with on a weekly basis. And

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Speaker 1: he's not a foodie at the level Greg is. Although

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Speaker 1: difference though. I'm still refining my palette where I believe

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Speaker 1: Greggs has been refined for fifteen years. Okay, anyway, but

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Speaker 1: we get to talk about football for a living and

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Speaker 1: we get paid for it, so everything's fine on balance,

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Speaker 1: and and we have a whole slate of games to

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Speaker 1: talk about. This is, of course, the flagship program, which

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Speaker 1: you could catch in podcast form and also video form

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Speaker 1: both on NFL dot com and YouTube. And that's cool, right, Ricky,

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Speaker 1: and Ricky's our producer like Tam producer. That's the coolest

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Speaker 1: part about it. And you know every more of us

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Speaker 1: are happy about that. I'm not sure the actual producers

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Speaker 1: that happen. I'm very you're putting a really false narrative

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Speaker 1: out into the world. Okay, that's possible to I'm exploring

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Speaker 1: the issue. I'm not sure what I get to do

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Speaker 1: every day. You know what they say, you want to

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Speaker 1: wake up with a smile on your your face, going

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Speaker 1: and work, And that's exactly how I feel. Alright. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through all of the games that were

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna break it down with some analysis and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, just a touch of earth everybody and my mentions, Oh, Dan,

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Speaker 1: how are you gonna do the show today? You know

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Speaker 1: the Jets are so you know what you process these

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Speaker 1: things over time? Also, what has been the b line

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Speaker 1: that Jets have sucked virtually the entire time. I've gotten

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Speaker 1: the middle of the figure. Well. The Vikings called time out,

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Speaker 1: that can't carry a quarterback list offense, and me talking

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Speaker 1: could see Chase daniel I think it's at that level

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Speaker 1: that we could see Chase Daniels because I think that

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Speaker 1: gives them a better What if it's only for a

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Speaker 1: game or two to let m Robinsky like calm down

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Speaker 1: and and you know, come out from under the microscope

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Speaker 1: for a little bit, right, I mean, Chicago, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I understandably that fan base was thinking NFC Title game.

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Speaker 1: If things go right and we have a chance of

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you have a very potentially uh shaky

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Speaker 1: active offseason coming up, depending on how they self scout

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Speaker 1: their offense specifically. But this is that time of year

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Speaker 1: where if you're Matt Nag's family, like dad is starting

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Speaker 1: to walk around the house in a bad mood and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to monitor that well. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's in September, in October, there's still hope. But I

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Speaker 1: think this was a decisive turn into darkness and dance

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Speaker 1: calling to death. So I mean, but the experiences. Still

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Speaker 1: coach looks more miserable, I would say on the sideline

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Speaker 1: right now than he just looks sad, and I did

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Speaker 1: today produced a few cases up there, but I would

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Speaker 1: stay with the Eagles. They've they're getting to their bye

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Speaker 1: week at five and four. It's been rocky. But one

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Speaker 1: thing I thought watching this game was that they're closer

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Speaker 1: to the team they expected to be now because they

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Speaker 1: had their top three cornerbacks all playing Avante Vatas, Jalen Mills,

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Speaker 1: and Ronald Darby. None of those guys were there three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. Timmy Jernegan is back. They trade for Genard Avery,

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Speaker 1: who barely played for them, but he got a sack

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Speaker 1: in a few snaps. It's a little different team. You

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Speaker 1: maybe get Jason Peters back. They really stimy the Bears

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Speaker 1: pass rush, including Clio Max. So they're doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: Good story. All right, guys, you know what time it

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Speaker 1: is our favorite parts of the Sunday Experience. It is

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Speaker 1: time now for Road to Victory presented by the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. Three receivers to the right side for

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Speaker 1: net in the backfield Minshew shotgun, one tight end lined

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Speaker 1: up left. That's to Voulve Minshew. I'm third and eight

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Speaker 1: from the Houston at forty nine, gets the snap, has time,

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Speaker 1: fires daft field that's ticked off, fire tie chill all

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Speaker 1: the time. With the pick at the thirty two yard line,

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Speaker 1: He's brought down there by Cole and the Texans taken

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Speaker 1: away Mark Vandermere. Wow, that was an aggressive root and

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Speaker 1: andre ware of k I l t with the call

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Speaker 1: no jj wa no problem for the Texans defense, which

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Speaker 1: forced Gardner means you into four turnovers in the final

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Speaker 1: four possessions of the game to three. Win at Wembley

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Speaker 1: Stadium for Houston, closes out the two two thousand nineteen

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Speaker 1: London series for the NFL. Well done, UK. The Houston

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Speaker 1: defense added three sacks and allowed most of Jacksonville's yardagin

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Speaker 1: garbage time. So the Texans hit their bye week. They're

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Speaker 1: back in sole possession of first place in the a

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Speaker 1: f C South And this game to me really illuminated

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Speaker 1: um two things. They're not all J. J. Watt on defense,

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Speaker 1: they can turn it up if they have to. And

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Speaker 1: also how the advantage of quarterbacks Shaun Watson is so

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Speaker 1: much better than the other quarterbacks in the division. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think they're gonna end up winning this UH

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Speaker 1: Division at a walk. I think there's a really noticeable

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Speaker 1: contrast in third downs in this game, and didn't they

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Speaker 1: didn't look like too totally uneven teams, But the Texans

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Speaker 1: are doing these run pass options on third downs, and

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Speaker 1: when the initial play when he chooses pass isn't there,

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Speaker 1: Watson just finds a way to make him play and

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Speaker 1: there's no defense against that. Whereas Minshew was a little

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Speaker 1: more tentative in this game, and more importantly, was always

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Speaker 1: in a third and long. They kept running, and they

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Speaker 1: kept failing on early downs, and I saw a step

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Speaker 1: there was one third and four, and then every other

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Speaker 1: third and long was third and six or more, a

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Speaker 1: lot of them third and ten or more. And he

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Speaker 1: wasn't willing to pull the trigger quite as much today

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Speaker 1: and wasn't comfortable with what he was seeing. And I

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Speaker 1: think you give a veteran defensive coordinator in Romeo Carnell

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Speaker 1: some credit for that, because he seemed to have Minshew

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Speaker 1: spooked right. The Texans without J. J. Watt, arguably this

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Speaker 1: was their finest defensive outing of the year, and I

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Speaker 1: think they've pushed Gardner Minshew into a scenario or late

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Speaker 1: where he was he was forced to try to make

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Speaker 1: plays when they were in a hot water. It happens,

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Speaker 1: looks like a rookie. But but you know what I

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Speaker 1: don't want to delve into is and I think that

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Speaker 1: we are getting there where when Bob Bill O'Brien says

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Speaker 1: after the game, he's going to decide by next you know,

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Speaker 1: during the bye week, who is going to start a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Doug Maron, Sorry Doug Maron that it's it's it's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be fulls at this point. Well, let's listen to

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Speaker 1: what Maron had to say after the game went asked

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Speaker 1: about it because Nick Foles, of course, who exited Week

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Speaker 1: one with a clavical injury, should be ready after the

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Speaker 1: bye and Um and Maron left the door open. Well, Jean,

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Speaker 1: you know I haven't. I haven't spoken to either quarterback yet.

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Speaker 1: Um and I hate, you know, talking to the media

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Speaker 1: with my plans, but you know my plans were again

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Speaker 1: the disappointment of the team, you know, I'm not performing well,

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Speaker 1: will be on my mind now for the next four

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Speaker 1: d eight hours. I think after those hours over, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna step away a little bit and take a break.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't have to make a decision or have time. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna talk to the quarterbacks about and

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Speaker 1: then I'll tell them, probably right before we come back

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, we'll be able to discuss where we're gonna go.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much my plan. That sounds like I just

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Speaker 1: one quick thing and then you guys can you can

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Speaker 1: go where you want with it. But like I think

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Speaker 1: with fulls, like it's an organizational thing. You have to

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Speaker 1: see folds and Greg and I were talking about this

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Speaker 1: morning because of what you've invested already. But the idea

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Speaker 1: that Gardner Minshew has played himself out of the job

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Speaker 1: because of today, For instance, he's outplayed a flock of

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Speaker 1: first round for second year quarterbacks that aren't doing anything

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Speaker 1: close to what he's done at this time. He's he's

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Speaker 1: been fantastic. He's been of the year material that I

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Speaker 1: think it's not viewed fairly because he's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a media sensation. At the same time, I could understand

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Speaker 1: the decision either way with this one. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this one needs any hot takes. Like if they go

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Speaker 1: with Foals, that's fine. If they go with I agree,

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll get into it during the week. But

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Speaker 1: the reason why I'm not surprised they would go with

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Speaker 1: Foles is this Jaguars defense isn't special anymore. It's fine.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have three pass rushers. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, what are they doing? Every defense

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Speaker 1: look bad? I guess do you remember him having a

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Speaker 1: second gear like that? No? And and so they've got

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Speaker 1: to move that ball to the other hand by the sideline,

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Speaker 1: but getting the end zone, Carlos, if their defense is

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Speaker 1: just okay, the old line is definitely not great and

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Speaker 1: maybe that'll hurt nick Foles if he comes in. Minshow

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Speaker 1: has done a good job kind of coping with that.

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Speaker 1: Who's got the higher ceiling. And I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can discount the sealing that we've seen out of Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles either that his best and we saw it in

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Speaker 1: the you know, as one of the great Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: performances ever, but a really great stretch run last year too.

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Speaker 1: Is is pretty high and I think you want to

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Speaker 1: see him because if you don't see him, then you're

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Speaker 1: just moving on from him after this season. And I

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Speaker 1: think Minho is gonna be there for four years and

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if we see falls and then

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Speaker 1: min shoos their quarterback. Just a unique situation and it

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Speaker 1: feels like a hundred years ago. But there was a

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Speaker 1: time when Nick Foles was a young quarterback that was

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Speaker 1: fairly unheralded and he had twenty seven touchdowns and two

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Speaker 1: interceptions or whatever it is, and this was kind of

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Speaker 1: framed as his first like real crack of leading a

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Speaker 1: franchise um, it makes sense to me. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a popular um decision if it goes

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Speaker 1: down the way it seems to with the organism with

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Speaker 1: the fans, because we've got like that stadium for instance,

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Speaker 1: that's essentially a home game, well it was literally home

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Speaker 1: game for the Jaguars, but also a lot of Jaguars

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Speaker 1: fans in the UK, everyone with their number fifteen jerseys

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Speaker 1: that they spent sixty dollars on and they have the

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Speaker 1: mustaches on. He has captured the imagination of that fan base.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine there's going to be some pushback if

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Speaker 1: they move away, but they do have a head coach

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Speaker 1: and Maron he is like Bill o'briena. He doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to factor in with the fans think,

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Speaker 1: nor should he um, but it seems I would be

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Speaker 1: surprised he also, Yeah, that's true, but he has to

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Speaker 1: he does have to factor in what the locker room thinks.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine he also seems like a coach that

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Speaker 1: might not care about that either, based on past Dug

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Speaker 1: Marown experiences. Texans have swept the Jags. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: was a big win, just in the a f C

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Speaker 1: South Race. Yes, let us move on, but before we do,

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Speaker 1: that was the road to victory presented by the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. All right, let's move on to one

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Speaker 1: of the more puzzling results of UH Sunday's football action.

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Speaker 1: I formation Rivers under center Derek Watt Melvin Gordon, seven

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. On a fourth and goal, hands to Gordon

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Speaker 1: pushes into the Insultstone Chargers. Melvin Gordon with a second

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Speaker 1: one yard time in the game. Chargers have found a

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Speaker 1: running game. Melvin Gordon's short yardage no problem. Drop your

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Speaker 1: pads and power right through. Drop the audio once Money

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Speaker 1: finished his input highlight. We do not need the other

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Speaker 1: guy in the booth, Daniel Jeremiah, don't need him. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put that on that. Tatton and he's just he's

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Speaker 1: filling in for some ill people. You know your feelings

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Speaker 1: about we have a rule, the heart and fast rule.

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Speaker 1: No Daniel Jeremiah on this show. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: what I do. Yeah, I would say we is is

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Speaker 1: stretching in anyway, this thing has really had staining powder.

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Speaker 1: I like it by now. Melvin Gordon scored twice from

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Speaker 1: one yard out, including that plunge in the second half,

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Speaker 1: and Michael Badgeley come for you. Mike Badgeley four field goals.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers dominate the Packers eleven. At the Big Dignity?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? The Big Dignity? I

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Speaker 1: like it. I was also thinking about at the works

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Speaker 1: at the big healthy, at the big healthy, super healthy,

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Speaker 1: the super healthy, big healthy, big healthy, big healthy, big dignity.

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Speaker 1: Though that's kind of interesting too. Yeah, it's tricky, big

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Speaker 1: big healthy. Anyway, it stops a three game losing streak

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Speaker 1: for the Charges West. But we have to know, though,

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Speaker 1: what the hell happened to Aaron Codgers in the Backers

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Speaker 1: offense in this one? This was a hammer drop, just

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Speaker 1: an absolute hammer drop of a game, and to me

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Speaker 1: says more about the Chargers and what they are now

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Speaker 1: as opposed to a couple of weeks ago versus what

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Speaker 1: it says about the Packers. I think you have a

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Speaker 1: healthy Melvin Ingram, which you didn't have a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon looked more explosive, elusive, and decisive today than

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Speaker 1: he has at any point this year. By far. He

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Speaker 1: just looked like a different player. Um, Russolo Komb's back hunter,

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Speaker 1: Henry is playing really well. All these guys who weren't

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Speaker 1: playing or playing poorly for the Chargers have transformed this team.

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Speaker 1: This looked like a totally different team. It was one

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Speaker 1: of Philip rivers best game of the year, his ball placement,

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Speaker 1: his ability to get rid of the ball really quickly.

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: And then Joey Bosa, I mean, I guess he could

641
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: be battling his brother for an All Pro birth. He's

642
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: having just as good of a year as Nick Bosa,

643
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: and he lived in the Packers backfield in this game. Um,

644
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: you don't often hear a head coach after the game

645
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: say we never even had a chance to get into

646
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: our game plan. And that's what Matt Lafloor said. It

647
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: seemed like every third down the Packers couldn't convert, so

648
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: they never had the ball and one of the Jim

649
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Nance nuggets in this game was hit a couple of

650
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: good ones. Uh, but this was the first time and

651
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Speaker 1: Aaron red Iron Rodgers led offense did not top one

652
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: yards by the end of the third quarter. Wow, yeah

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Speaker 1: it was. It was three nine to sixty in yards

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Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. That is the most surprising

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00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: yardage total. And this is right up there with the

656
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Speaker 1: most surprising games to me of the entire NFL, just

657
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the dominance, because the Chargers hadn't shown

658
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: us anything like this all year. I don't think you'll

659
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: watch this game in say, oh, you know, the Charges

660
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: are flying around and and really hitting people hard and

661
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: swarming everything. The Packers just couldn't get anything accomplished on

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00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: third downs. And I imagine that Bill at the at

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00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: the Big health or the Big Healthier, the big dignity

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Speaker 1: that had to be filled with cheeseheads, and that didn't

665
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: matter obviously, because the Packers gonna do a damn thing. Yeah.

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00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: I just had a vision of one of the cheesehts

667
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: who was shirtless with suspenders and some goofy had at

668
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: the end of the game, just looking miserable and get it,

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00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: probably showed that a lot of money. Yeah, the Packers defense,

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00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: at least defending the run is a problem. I know,

671
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: Gordon he did look better I think in his touchdown

672
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: run last week too, and I'm sure he did today.

673
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: But they're kind of that team that if you've got

674
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: a running game problem, face the Packers and they'll solve

675
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: it for you. I mean every every week. It's like that.

676
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: They hadn't top the Chargers in the top forty yards,

677
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, since Week four on the ground and they

678
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: put one fifty nine on the Packers and uh, I

679
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess they should fire Ken Wizzing Hunt

680
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: more often. You know, it's like it's great. I take

681
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: back what I mean. They're not the first time to

682
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: go down that app and call them up again tonight,

683
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: as long as you keep paying them. I thought they

684
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: looked more in sync. I mean, it's hard to pay

685
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: attention too much to play calling during the game, but

686
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: they looked more in sync. And one of the beat

687
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: writers said they were getting the plays in a lot

688
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: quicker and allowing rivers to make quicker decisions at the

689
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Just so baffling, because we just finished

690
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: talking about, you know this great Packers stretch that they've

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00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: been on before the loss today and how they've been

692
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: able to turn Aaron Jones into this dual threat superstar.

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Speaker 1: Well he doesn't do anything, and then uh Davante Adams

694
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: had missed all that time, and then he comes back

695
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: and he's the most target receiver. But it's in their

696
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: worst offensive performance in uh six weeks. So sometimes, you know,

697
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: this is good. This is a good thing about sports.

698
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Though sometimes it's good to have these like screwball things

699
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: that just let everybody know you don't really know anything

700
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: and anything could happen any given Sunday is a term

701
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: I've come up with. On any given sun something can

702
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: change that. Talk to the NFL about that you should

703
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: trademark that, like Michael Badgeley trademarked money Badger. Oh what

704
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: about even even crazier Up in New England, they're using

705
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: quiet Storm for Stephon Gilmour, which does not sit well. Well,

706
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: they had a quiet storm a year ago in a

707
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: different player, and so they've now gone down the road

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: with its flowers was quiet. This is I P It's

709
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: it's shocking to me that the Patriots are not respecting

710
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: our podcast. I don't. That's something I'm struggling to process.

711
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: Aren't respecting others? Period? Should I get back on the

712
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Charger's band round? Go ahead here? Really, I'm just saying

713
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: of their four and five and like we said that

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00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: of all the teams where there are a lot of

715
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: teams like this every year where you can just like

716
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: throw out the first half of the year and do

717
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: they have people on their roster that could make you

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00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: believe and they go on a second half run. Sure,

719
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: I believe that, and you will have their starting safeties.

720
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Ostensibly we'll come back at some point Durwin James and

721
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips, and that would be to me, the final

722
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: pieces on that defense. You saw a transformed defense today.

723
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is really playing as well as Nick Bosa.

724
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: I think we but it's only like twice in our

725
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: lives were brothers on the in the same league at

726
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: the same time, or this dominant. I would allow them

727
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: both into the Pro Bowl as one entity and one

728
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: plays the first half, one plays the second, or to

729
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: be a double All Pro vote, because it's like, let's

730
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: be rules associated and rules dominant, but like it's gonna

731
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: happen never double d p O. I. That's the big award,

732
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: and that's when you have children. You hope this is

733
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: what happens with your children where you hit you know,

734
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: late fifties or something. Both your children are raging income

735
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: earning professionals, and you just sit back in like expensive

736
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: rocking chairs. You know what. This game reminded me? Remember

737
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: our old fork segment. Yeah, of course this reminds me

738
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: of Greg would always argue never to fork anyone because

739
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: they could, you know, come alive. This is this is

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00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: a team that we may have forked or come close

741
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: to forking, and they looked like they could slide into

742
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: a six seed. Yep, I agree. And one last thing

743
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: before we move on west. Anything to be concerned about

744
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: what the packers here are just a bad day. I

745
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: would chalk it up to a speed bump. I think

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00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Greg's right that their defense has not been the last

747
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: month what it was the first month. So that's an issue, um,

748
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: But I chalk it up to things just just did

749
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: not go their way. These third down bombs that Roger's

750
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: been throwing and people have been making great catches. He's

751
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: been putting right on people's hands. They didn't complete any

752
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: of those today, So I mean some of that is

753
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: just randomness, but they got thoroughly outplayed, and I think

754
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: it was one of those games where you just shake

755
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: it off and bounce back. You can't just roll into

756
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: Big Healthy and have your way. That's something that we

757
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: learned today. Only three more left in the Big Health.

758
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: What is it the Little Dignity? Three more forever? Alright? Mark,

759
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: you went to the first game there, I did. What

760
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: a celebration to go to the last game. It's kind

761
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: of button it up. Well, I guess bumps thinking about

762
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Mark's trip to the Big Dignity. Another article of mine

763
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm certain you've not read. Let's move on

764
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: you an article about it. Here's your food play action

765
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: and Stafford fires back of the end zone incomplete and

766
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: complain and complete, three seconds left, the older man not

767
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: falling for the fake resited. I have big critical of

768
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: this coverage all season when he's did a Matts job.

769
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: When that last boy, how magnanimous of Lincoln Kennedy and

770
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: his partner Brenton Mussberger of kg m Z. I do

771
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: I have to say, I love here in Brenton Musberger's voice,

772
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: I know he had you know some people. He had

773
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: the issue with the Alabama quarterback a few years back,

774
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: caught some heat for that. I was like, oh, she's

775
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: quite a looker, mcar and some issues on social media.

776
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: But and he maybe went a little too hard into

777
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: the Vegas. He's like, I love gambling. That was a

778
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: little weird when he did that, but you know, he

779
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: owns a gambling company, so he's still very much in that. Yeah,

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00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: but you know what he sounds like, Greig has no

781
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: issues with that. Part of don't make your money sounds

782
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: like childhood to me, and I'm sure you guys, it's

783
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: just a collective memory. It's not recent experiences with the

784
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: man per se. Karl Joseph broke up a fourth down

785
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford passing the end zone with three seconds to play,

786
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: given the Raiders right over the Lions. This is the

787
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: first game played at the Black Hole in seven weeks,

788
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr put the Raiders ahead with two minutes

789
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: to play on a touchdown past our hunter Renfro who's

790
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: slowly getting out of Greg Rosenthal's unfair doghouse. Greg, the Raiders,

791
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: you know they're fun, and so is this game. It

792
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: was the game of the day. Disrespectful to put it

793
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: so far down in the order, but I get it.

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00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: It's a it's all these a f C West teams

795
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: in a row. You know. People say, oh, the NFC

796
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: is way better. Well it is, But today the Matt Moore,

797
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: the backup of the Chiefs, they take out the Vikings.

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00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: The Packers can't get even close against the Chargers, and

799
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: here's Oakland beating an NFC team, the Lions. And I

800
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: think you gotta start with Derek Carr and the offensive line.

801
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: The combination of those two factors have made this team

802
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: very watchable. He got sacked today for the first time

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00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: since Week four. It's outrageous. They were missing their starting center,

804
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson, and then they lost Trent Brown, their right

805
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: tackle early in the game. So that's big time concern

806
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: later in the season. Uh, but it didn't. You didn't

807
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: notice it today. And I think no quarterback is more

808
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: different when he has pressure on him than when he's

809
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: well protected than Derek car Because when he's protected like

810
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: he has been this season, especially today, he makes some

811
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: pretty throws and he made a number of them today.

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00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: It was back and forth and it was a lot

813
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. Are there some people out there

814
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: who might owe Tom Cable an apology the offensive line?

815
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people apologize. I mean, I'm

816
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: that we I'm fine that I picked on how poor

817
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: his offensive line produced year after year after year. But

818
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: he's done a great job. He's been everybody's whipping boy

819
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: on Twitter because he can't coach offensive line, according to Twitter.

820
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: But this offensive line is doing really well. It is

821
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: and because of that, Cars had time to look and

822
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: and there was a third and eleven throw to Tyrone

823
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: Williams that kept a touchdown drive going that was just outrageous.

824
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: Their game winning touchdown drive was all the Jalen Richard

825
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: for a while, and then it's two ren fro to

826
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: for the game winner where car has to make a

827
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: play late in the down. John Gruden's having fun calling

828
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: plays and he's doing a great job doing it, and

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00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: he didn't face that much opposition here with Detroit. I mean,

830
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Speaker 1: I was surprised this game didn't go to overtime because

831
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: neither defense could get any pressure, and neither defense is

832
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: very good. And I just figured this is thirty one

833
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: thirty one overtime. I think we think the apologies might

834
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Speaker 1: extend to John Gruden as well, who I know I've

835
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: had fun at his expense multiple times. The but you

836
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: mentioned the defense, and that's my concern with Oakland's overall

837
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: journey here is that you're regularly you're giving up yards passing.

838
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: They're not the past rush isn't there. It just feels

839
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: like a fatal potentially. I don't think any of us

840
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: agree with they're you know, a special team or a

841
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: playoff Darling. No, but they're in the mix that they're

842
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: in the mix there entertaining team that's gonna play some

843
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: back and forth, some high scoring games. And and one

844
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: guy I want to point out, because we talked about it, West,

845
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: you got on me a little bit because I see

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00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as a potential offensive player of the year

847
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: still for rookies. Um and you throughout Gardener meets you

848
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: as a guy that you guys would get behind. I

849
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: think Josh Jacobs has got to be the guy. I

850
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: mean right now, what he's doing on a weekly basis

851
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: basis of this team. He is a bell cow back.

852
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: He's twenty one years old, and he runs like a

853
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: madman for one twenty and two touchdowns. And this is

854
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: just something. Every week they can count on Jacob's giving

855
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: them good yardage and helping the offense stay functional. Yeah,

856
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: I get more impressed with him every week. He just

857
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: seems to get better. I'm the same. I thought this

858
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: was his best game. There are a lot of players

859
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: that should have been negative yardage where he ends up

860
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: getting two, three, four. He's got that jump cut, he's

861
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: running more decisively. I think you're right, Well, the one

862
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: I think I have no problem with that. But if

863
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: it's all things being equal, the degree of difficulty to

864
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: come in as a rookie quarterback is something that I

865
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: think wins that award over and over for those guys. Yeah,

866
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: it does. If Mini gets who know, it doesn't even

867
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: that that part of it doesn't matter. I just am

868
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: impressed of how much this guy has changed this team

869
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: and Josh j And it's good nail to nail some

870
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: draft picks. I mean, had you know they have some

871
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: young players, have a really good rookie class, right, that

872
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: was important pass rush. They maybe didn't nail the first pick.

873
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: It's still very early, obviously, but on balances, yes, well,

874
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: they lost rookie safety who I think would have made

875
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: a big difference in this defense too. Didn't Rookie score

876
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: all four of their touchdowns in this game? I believe yeah,

877
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: and they're h yeah. Fabian Moreau had another big touchdown.

878
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: This team is really interesting because you're right, I don't

879
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: think they have any chance to win a Super Bowl,

880
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: probably even the n f C Championship game. But to

881
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: be football seasons are like that. You know, you can

882
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: get value out of teams that go that win ten games.

883
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: They have two more games here in the black Hole

884
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: in a row Chargers on Thursday night, which is a

885
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: spicy Thursday night football suddenly, because they both knew that

886
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: went then the Bengals at the black Hole, then the Jets.

887
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, if they can put together these wins at

888
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: home in their final season of Oakland and sneak into

889
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: a playoff spot, that's gonna be like a magical moment,

890
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: and it would be a nice way to send that

891
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: crowd out. I like it. All right, let us move

892
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: on to the team of s STL. I'll talk about

893
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: the team that won the six play action fake Josh

894
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: Allen Fire turn to the introme cut By Beasley touchdown

895
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo Cold Beas three touchdowns in three straight games for

896
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: him and the Bill strike first with a six yard

897
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: path from Josh Dallon. Cold Beasley jumps up in the sands,

898
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: now being harassed by Bill's fans. Incredible sight to see

899
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: this was an incredible route on the outside by so

900
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: incredible John Murphy, Eric Wood w g R. With the call, Yes,

901
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Cole Beasley, all the Alan quarterbacks one Sunday,

902
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Josh Kyle Brandon. That's only happened five other times history.

903
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: It's incredible. I have um a close cousin of Minus

904
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: Mike Allen, his brothers Eric and Stu the father. I

905
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: texted them, I said, guys, big day Sunday. Big day

906
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: for Stu Allen. All Right, Josh Allen, Cole Bisley connected

907
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: for a second straight week, and rookie Devin Singletary had

908
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: ninety five yards rushing, including a two yard score. The

909
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: Bills coast nine over Washington in Western New York. Mark.

910
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: We asked the Bills to Lanta hammer on a bad

911
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: Washington team. Did this qualify No? I don't think it

912
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: would qualify at all as a hammering it. The game

913
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: played two expectations in the sense that you know you

914
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: mentioned my favorite team, the team of Mark Tale, did

915
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: you estil it? That is because I love what the

916
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: Redskins essentially have committed themselves to. Uh and we'll get

917
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: to the team that won this in a second. But

918
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: Washington three games in a row is I think they're

919
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: basically saying, we are not going to be even if

920
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: we are flying home, we are not going to miss

921
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: sixty minutes tonight. We are not going to miss anything

922
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: about what normally would happen from four pm. Game Yes

923
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: or no is a non competitive game that ends quickly.

924
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: That's football. That is what I like when I am

925
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: covering now. I thought this would be my second game

926
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: at the ten am slot on the West coast, and

927
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: it was the only game I was covering. It did

928
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: not quite check all the boxes from that angle, but

929
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: it finished in about two hours and forty something minutes.

930
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, they set the fastest game record in

931
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: over a decade with a two hour thirty six game affair,

932
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: and then they had a game and couched in between

933
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: that was very similar. And it's because they are committed

934
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: to essentially basing an offense around Adrian Peterson, who you know,

935
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote him off. He looked great, today.

936
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: He looked really he had a hundred yards plus in

937
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: the first half. You have Dwayne Haskins as your rookie starter,

938
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: and I think they really were just that's frustrating because

939
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: I think even for Dwayne Haskins, they seemed it's hard

940
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: to get a read on a quarterback in an offense

941
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: that has about ten plays in their playbook, and they

942
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: aren't really letting him just to go for it and

943
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: wing it. I like his arm, but you're right, it

944
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: will hurt you because this is the least creative offensive

945
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: attack that I've maybe ever seen. But they're committed to it,

946
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Like Bill Callahan, he replaced a

947
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: Gruden brother, So you would imagine there's a playbook in

948
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: there somewhere that has something. It's all about the running game,

949
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: but the personnel if they don't trust. They used page

950
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: A of the running attack part of the playbook, I think,

951
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: and they're just the Bills to me. My one concern

952
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: is a lack of ability to close certain games. They

953
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: in the second half of this thing got shut down

954
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Uh Gore has struggled today and

955
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: the one thing that I took away from the Bills

956
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: is they seem now committed down the stretch to use

957
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, who led the team with twenty carries, as

958
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: someone that they're gonna lean on more and more. And

959
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: he's not perfect, but he is more explosive than anyone

960
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: else they have at running back, right, Semey and take

961
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: Frank Gore with us. No, no, I was stuffed on

962
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: you know for first, second, third, fourth and short three

963
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: or four times in this game. One on a on

964
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: an early third quarter drive just ended in downs because

965
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: Gore was stuffed and it was just not a great

966
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: look for him. And the Bills should have won this game.

967
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: They should have been up by three plus touchdowns at

968
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: various points and it was like seventeen to nine. It

969
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: was a one score game for way too long because

970
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: they just don't have the parts in place to put

971
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: people away the way you asked if that's what they did,

972
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, it looked that way too, Haskins. They didn't

973
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: have a you know, wide receiver catchup pass over thirteen yards.

974
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: If you look at the stats and it's like, wow,

975
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: you average seven yards per attempt. It it wasn't a

976
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: total disaster. Bills are six and oh against teams below

977
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: five hundred, two against teams above five hundred, but three

978
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: three of the Bills remaining eight games or against teams

979
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: currently above five hundred. So again we and we've been

980
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: saying this um that if they just play to their

981
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: how they've been doing so far, just beat bad teams,

982
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: and maybe you don't beat the good teams. You go

983
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: eleven or five, and then we'll see you probably quickly.

984
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: We'll see you quickly out of the playoff tournament. But again,

985
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: who knows. You never know. Some of these other a

986
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: FC teams we've talked about the Chargers today, you never

987
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: know what happens. You get the Bills in January, you

988
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: get that defense hyped up in a cold weather game.

989
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: I see a little Brian Westbrook and Devin Single two

990
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: remember him. Eagles, Absolutely, I can see that. Let's move on.

991
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: I see it too. Was thank you McCaffrey, right up,

992
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: the free may score to the forty to the thirty

993
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: foot race, funny to the ten arline. Yes, sir, he

994
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: stares down, I mean, and the open field just dragging

995
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: for the last five yards. Dorey Jackson in the end zone,

996
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard touchdowner on the great mcmixon of w

997
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: BT with the call C m C for m v P.

998
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey continued to build on his phenomenal twenty nineteen

999
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: going off for a buck sixty six and three touches

1000
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: that's a hundred sixty six yards from scrimmage, Panthers a

1001
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: thirty twenty win over the Titans in Charlotte West. The

1002
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Panthers were embarrassed by the Niners a week ago. You

1003
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: always want to you want to follow the bury the

1004
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: ball game with a get right game. And that's what

1005
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: happened to that. It's not that complic By the way,

1006
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: mcmixon sounds like a competitive barbecue circuit guy. Oh yeah, uh,

1007
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: this was a get right game. I think I was

1008
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: starting to doubt Kyle Allen big Toe. I'm and I'm

1009
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: not saying he looked like, you know, the prime of

1010
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: Jake Delone back there. I'm not talking about the decline phase.

1011
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the prime. How about the guy who

1012
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: lit up Jone? That guy could play. He made some

1013
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: pretty and we've seen in his best starts he's got

1014
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: some nice touch and ball placement, and he had that today.

1015
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: And then Christian McCaffrey just took over. But this was

1016
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: also a the Titans never had the ball. It was

1017
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: seventeen to nothing, and at that point the Panthers had

1018
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: run forty one place the Titans had run only fourteen.

1019
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, who was really given the Titans very little

1020
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: this year, fumbled a j Brown dropped the past. It

1021
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: turned into an easy interception, and those two plays really

1022
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: broke the back of the Titans in the first half

1023
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: and never given gave them a chance to stay in

1024
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: this game. The separation right now in the a f

1025
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: C South is noticeable. The Titans and the Jags now

1026
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: two losses behind. That's pretty significant. The Titans are a

1027
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: team that if you look beyond the numbers, kind of

1028
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: at the underlying arts for play. The d v o

1029
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: A Football outsiders, pretty much anyone with the advanced metrics

1030
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: say that they were a much worse team than a

1031
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: four and four team, that they're closer to it the

1032
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: best team in the league. And I thought this was

1033
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: a good test two teams that should be pretty even.

1034
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: You got Kyle Allen starting for Carolina and it's not

1035
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: that close. Well they're not even because of Christian McCaffrey.

1036
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I think he's He's just the best player in this

1037
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: game by far. And then I think Titans fans have

1038
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: the pitchforks and torches out for for the offensive coordinator,

1039
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: first year guy Arthur Smith. They've really done. They have

1040
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: no identity on offense. They haven't done much, and I

1041
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: don't know how much of that is just at the

1042
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. They changed quarterbacks and the offensive line is

1043
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: still a mess. You're gonna come at their art because

1044
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: he's working with Mariota and Tannehill, all right. I mean

1045
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: they've changed offensive coordinators almost every year. He might be

1046
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: the Mariota of coordinators. That's certainly possible. I want to

1047
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: point two things out about McCaffrey to put this into

1048
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: some you know historic um, you know, looking at this historically.

1049
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: So the only way you can win m VP is

1050
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: running backcause you have to have a historic season. And

1051
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: McCaffrey joins Jim Brown, your boy Mark in nineteen sixty three,

1052
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: is the only players in NFL history with a hundred

1053
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: and fifty plus yards from scrimmage and one at least

1054
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: one scrimmage touchdown in six of eight games. And now

1055
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: this for the guys that built rode a world break

1056
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: by Brick. That was Greg West. Listen to this. What

1057
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: is the greatest fantasy season in the history of mankind,

1058
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: at least this century? I a guest la Dainian Tomlinson's

1059
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: like thirty touchdown season, Yes, two thousand six. Uh, he

1060
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: had four eighty three points for the Chargers. Unbelievable. McCaffrey

1061
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: on pace for four d ninety three points. He's on

1062
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: pace have the greatest fantasy season of all time. Um,

1063
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: now what does that mean? Maybe nothing to the people

1064
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: in this room. You guys have moved on. You look

1065
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: at you. You believe yourself to be above fantasy. But

1066
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: for the five hundred million people that play fantasy, what

1067
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: he's doing has never been done before. And that's how

1068
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: you win m VP. You have a season for the

1069
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: ages at running back. I think if they took a

1070
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: vote today, he would come in second place the Russell Wilson.

1071
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: I changed, I changed my way, but I think that

1072
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: that's how the voters would go, that he would have

1073
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: a significant amount of support. Watson would have some, and

1074
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: I think Wilson would have. So with today's tough game,

1075
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: he's got to be in the conversation. I think he

1076
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: probably dropped like fourth or fifth after today. I mean, also,

1077
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: if you're voting on this stuff, you're probably not necessarily

1078
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: watching coaches tape on every player in the league. We

1079
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: got the weekend, so that Christian McCaffrey experience is that

1080
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: every week he does two or three things that look

1081
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: like nothing else we've ever seen from a running back

1082
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Oh, we got the return of Riverboat today.

1083
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: Oh good goes for fourth and two and ended up

1084
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: a seven yard touchdown to McCaffrey and then had a

1085
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: fake punt late in the game to cut the Titans off.

1086
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: That's good because Riverboats certainly took the Niners game off.

1087
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Riverboats had a nice, nice little run here and staring

1088
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: at getting five? Are there there? What are they now?

1089
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: With Kyle Allen five and one? He's always staring at

1090
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: getting fire? Pretty wild. Mark got a head back to

1091
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: the cemetery. Let's on the way Mayfield, the pockets close

1092
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: across round is dropped at the twenty slavery headed in

1093
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: his hands, and then the collision with Gavante Harris. He

1094
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: couldn't hang on Karen Jackson there as well, and the

1095
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: Denver defense makes a huge stop with three nineteen left,

1096
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: where they needed that. Dave Logan and Rick Lewis of

1097
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: ko A with the call. Yes, that Broncos defense throttled

1098
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and friends all afternoon, forcing the Browns to

1099
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: settle for four field goals, all when they were in

1100
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: close to the end zone, and two stops on fourth down,

1101
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: including one that I know Mark is gonna want to

1102
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: talk about. Nineteen is the final. The Broncos beat the

1103
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: Browns at Mile high Mark. We called this a POTENTI

1104
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: a dirt nap game for the Browns and and then

1105
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: you let Brandon Allen and the Broncos get you some

1106
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: in the Undertaker. Yeah, it's I think that the Browns

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00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: season has been one of if you're a bit of

1108
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: a snake bit Cleveland fan of a certain age, you

1109
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: go into each of these weeks with the hope factor

1110
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: diminishing and being shipped away, and you start to during

1111
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: the course of the week imagine the worst case scenario,

1112
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: and it seems to be coming true week after week.

1113
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: Where Brandon Allen was the quarterback in this game who

1114
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: got a ton of help and turns of yards after

1115
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: the catch, but also made some money throws. I mean

1116
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: he also at times looked completely out of place, but

1117
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: he did not throw an interception. He did not completely

1118
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: unspooled Denver's offense against the Browns defense that I thought

1119
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: did not show up today when when they needed the

1120
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: most too. And on offense you mentioned it, they drove

1121
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: down Baker Mayfield and the Browns to Denver's twenty one

1122
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: yard line, to their twelve, twice to their nine, and

1123
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: to their five the way with twelve points off of that,

1124
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: and the play that you're mentioning is a critical fourth

1125
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: down conversion attempt where Baker Mayfield, with Nick Chubb off

1126
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: the field, wiggled around center to essentially try a quarterback sneak.

1127
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: I thought from every replay angle it looked to me

1128
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: like he like he got it, and widely it was

1129
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: what the the broadcasters felt the same way. And they

1130
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: were not rewarded the first down, and I think the

1131
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: game essentially they challenged it and they did not get

1132
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: They challenged it. And Freddie Kitchens, who has been under

1133
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: a ton of fire in general obviously for what's happened

1134
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: this season, his record with these challenges is becoming something antihistoric.

1135
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: So it is a rough loss for Cleveland, but a

1136
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: lot of credit to Denver, because I thought they had

1137
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: a whole different energy with Brandon Allen in there, and

1138
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: they needed a bit of a change at quarterback. We

1139
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: know that, but guys like no offense showed up for

1140
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 1: the first time all season. Philip Lindsay played a great

1141
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: game too. It doesn't quite look that way if you

1142
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: look at his at his box score, but I mean

1143
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: he was fantastic down the stretch and they won a

1144
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: game against a team that I'm not sure you can

1145
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: look at Cleveland schedule and say it's so easy from

1146
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: here on out, it's easy to play the Browns right now.

1147
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: They shoot themselves in the foot, can't close drives, and

1148
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: seem to have a different part of the team not

1149
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: show up on a weekly basis. It seemed like Odell

1150
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Beckham was frustrated after the game. I know at one

1151
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: point James Palmer said that he came off the field

1152
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: and basically expressed, it doesn't matter what I do, I

1153
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: can't get the ball thrown to me. That was on

1154
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: that fourth and four play late. Yeah, I think that

1155
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: they During the week, you know, Odell Beckham talked about

1156
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: the fact that he and Baker Mayfield never really developed

1157
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: that chemistry prior to Week one and it hasn't shown up.

1158
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: And they mentioned during the game that Odell Beckham basically

1159
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: wants the quarterback to throw it to him in traffic

1160
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: and give him a chance to do what he does.

1161
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: And that's not happening. They have been out of sync

1162
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: from wire to wire and it's it's it's I can't

1163
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: believe it's already November. It just this has been a

1164
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: bad Brown season and it's I'm never listening to another

1165
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: bit of offseason fantasy nonsense ever again about what a

1166
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: team is going to do until it's actually happening. It's

1167
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: all media conjured bs Beckham. It's it's on some of

1168
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: them not shocking the that they're not in sync. They

1169
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't practice at all the entire off season. Some of

1170
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: that was by choice, some of that was by choice

1171
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: with Beckham, and then the rest was injury. You know,

1172
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: in training camp they did throw to him six times,

1173
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: he caught five or eighty seven. That's extremely efficient. If

1174
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: you did that every week, you would love. It's because

1175
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: playing well. He's not playing well. I think I think

1176
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: this is I think Beckham hasn't come down with a

1177
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: number of fifty fifty balls this year. It's probably just

1178
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: five or six, but it just has shown, you know,

1179
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: it's noticeable that he normally does, but it's mostly Baker

1180
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: and Beckham is going to be in the news again

1181
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: because this has been the one thing he has found

1182
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: himself in the news with with his fashion choices. He

1183
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: wore joker cleats. Him and Jarvis Landry both wore clee

1184
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: so that are not allowed by the league. And I'm

1185
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: not going to be one of those guys like, oh,

1186
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: this guy has no respect for the game and he

1187
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: only cares about himself. But as what I imagine is

1188
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: going to happen is he will go out in the

1189
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: media and say how he's being persecuted, and it's just like,

1190
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: it is not a great look when you're wearing the

1191
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: joker cleats and you're two and six and you're not

1192
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: making the game changing plays you're brought to the team

1193
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: to do. It has just been a really bad debut season. Yes,

1194
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: that's fine. I would say this that in general, Odell

1195
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: Beckham has, compared to some of the stuff that happened

1196
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: with the New York Giants, not been a problem on

1197
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: this team at all. The team, the issues with the

1198
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns extend far beyond fashion child. I agree. I

1199
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: just want to say, like the and this room kill

1200
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. It was time for Eli to go. But

1201
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: Beckham has gone to Cleveland. He's no longer an exciting player.

1202
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: He makes a play here and there, but he was

1203
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting players we've seen in twenty years.

1204
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: That to me is one of the most shocking things

1205
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: of build your offense around a rider wide receiver. I agree.

1206
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: I've been very disappointed by that connection. Baker in o'dello,

1207
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: I had much higher expectations for them. It's the Browns

1208
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: offense is one of the most shocking units in the

1209
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: entire NFL. It's one of the worst, worst five or

1210
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: six offenses. I wouldn't imagine that in a million years.

1211
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Even today, they where they run seventy three plays, they

1212
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: still only get three fifty one yards out of it.

1213
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: It's like Brandon Allen comes in. They put up twenty

1214
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: four points. That matches their season high. They only had

1215
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: nine drives. Now wasn't all perfect, but they hit some

1216
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: big plays. It's it's just wild that last year their

1217
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: recipe was explosive downfield passing action and it's all withered away,

1218
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: and they ask you a question right now in November three,

1219
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: Mark on January one. Is Freddie Kitchens the coach of

1220
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: the Browns. I think he is. I think he is,

1221
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: so he'll get a second just because the organization has

1222
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: made so many changes. All right, here's the guy who

1223
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll get a second year. Let's move

1224
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: on back to throw for backer looking flips at back,

1225
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: shoulder to touchdown. It's de Vante Parker water catch. It

1226
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: takes the shoulder, he makes it, catches easy ones, he drops. Hey, listen,

1227
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: I'll take that one right there, ball that it cuts down.

1228
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: They caught that ball one handed. Jimmy Cephalo and Bob

1229
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Greasy w q A m with the called. Ryan Fitzpatrick

1230
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: fits magic three touchdown passes, two of them to rookie

1231
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: Preston Williams, and Miami gets its first win of the

1232
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: season by beating former coach Adam Gaze and the New

1233
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: York Jets final score to eighteen at hard Rock Stadium.

1234
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: Um The Dolphins who have been it's been explained to

1235
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: us and speculated based on the moves Miami's made, that

1236
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: they were actively attempting to land the number one overall pick.

1237
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: That this is the organic fish tank. Uh well, they

1238
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: met their match with the Jets, who are just one

1239
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: of those special franchises that somehow are now in the

1240
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: lead over the Dolphins for the number one overall pick.

1241
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: I believe the Jets are currently would pick third and

1242
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: the Dolphins fourth. Uh And and you give credit to

1243
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, who's the head coach of the Dolphins, who

1244
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: signed a big contract to take over that team and

1245
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: was handed an absolute disaster scenario and things could not

1246
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: have started worse. It was still the worst start for

1247
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: any team in recent NFL history, But if you've been

1248
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: tracking them at all, the Dolphins have been getting better

1249
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: week after week after week. And on Monday Night, as

1250
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: we remember, against the Steelers, they even had a four

1251
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: teen nothing lead. Uh So they they had gotten to

1252
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: the point where they weren't just competitive, but they were

1253
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: actively uh looking like a team that could win a game,

1254
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: and they finished the job against the Jets. The Jets

1255
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: were the perfect opponent because this is an organization both

1256
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: inside and out, that's in a free fall right now.

1257
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: And on the first drive, just like last week, for

1258
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: the Jets, they go right down the field to get

1259
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown on their up seven nothing. Sam Donald looks

1260
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: great and then and again, this is why Adam Gaze

1261
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: to me, especially now that the fan base is going

1262
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: to be on fire after you lose to the tanking Dolphins,

1263
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: you can't do this week after week and have a

1264
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: bad offense. The Jets have a bad, bad, bad offense.

1265
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: And Adam Gaze was hired controversially. Uh, people didn't love

1266
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: the hire in a broad sense because they said this

1267
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: guy didn't do it in Miami. However, he had the

1268
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning Seal of approval, and he had some glimmers

1269
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: of success with Ryan Tannehill and so on and so forth,

1270
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: and he would make Sam Donald better. Sam Donald is

1271
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: not getting better. Sam Donald is regressing. So when you

1272
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: factor in the poor play of the team, how they

1273
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: seem unprepared, how they how they seem listless, the effort

1274
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: isn't there at times, it seems, how they're getting beat

1275
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: every week, how they're getting embarrassed the most weeks, and

1276
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: the fact that the golden boy Sam Donald um continues

1277
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: to struggle actually with turnovers um And that was of

1278
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: course that the connection to Donald at USC that he

1279
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: was a talented player that somehow sometimes could get careless. Well,

1280
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: that has really come to the forefront over the last

1281
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: three weeks. So add that all up. I think Gates

1282
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: has to go barring some type of magical shift. And

1283
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: you also have guys like Jamal Adams. We didn't really

1284
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: get into it too much on Thursday show, but he

1285
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: did tweet out during the Joe Douglas press conference how

1286
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: he felt, essentially he was double cross that the team

1287
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: had told him he wasn't on the block and then

1288
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: they held trade talks. Uh Ian Rappaport had a report

1289
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning that Zack Martin the Jets were asking

1290
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: for uh Tyrant Smith. The Jets were asking for if

1291
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: they were gonna move Jamal Adams to the Cowboys. The

1292
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys said no, and Adams now is actively on Twitter

1293
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: putting emojis up like a finish line, a checker flag.

1294
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: He's giving purposely, purposefully vague uh you know, running out

1295
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: the clock answer is post game. He's looking to get

1296
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: out of town. I don't think it's a great look

1297
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: by him either, but I get it. I get the frustration.

1298
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: The Jets are a mess, but good for the Dolphins

1299
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: if you're happy. I don't know if the Dolphins fans

1300
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 1: are happy right now. They were happy, the players are happy,

1301
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: and the coaching staffs happy. They never were tanking that,

1302
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: you know. The organization said that the players decided to

1303
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: take a step back watching Ryan Fitzpatrick walk off the

1304
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: field with his two sons two of seven, which he says,

1305
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: we weren't weren't born in seven different states, which is if.

1306
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was joking or not, but

1307
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: it's certainly possible considering his career. Kind of a weird

1308
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: joke is one of right, it's one of the most

1309
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: wild stats out there. And he said, I, you know,

1310
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: this doesn't this isn't like winning the Super Bowl. Um,

1311
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 1: but it sure feels sweet, and that this season has

1312
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: been a great lesson for my boys, that that they're

1313
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: watching this and that they are learning a lot of

1314
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: what it means to be a human, to being a professional,

1315
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: to be to take joy and things and it's not

1316
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, going your way, And I found that that's

1317
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: kind of what sports is about sometimes, Like Brian Fitzpatrick

1318
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: walking off the field with his son Brian Flores getting

1319
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: the gatorade bath. I mean, this felt like more than

1320
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: just an O and seven team winning a game fits

1321
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: it's a smart guy. Where do you go to school?

1322
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: Starting to feel like the plot from Major League That

1323
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: would be incredible. Uh, and we'll give Adam Gates the

1324
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: final word. He was asked if you know this was

1325
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: embarrassing to not just lose your former team, but to

1326
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: lose to a tanking team that entered action oh and eight.

1327
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter in the NFL. You gotta come out here,

1328
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: you gotta play good, you gotta play well. You can't

1329
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: have penalties, you can't have this opportunities. We didn't play

1330
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: well enough. It was this embarrassing. I mean, it's the NFL,

1331
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: and NFL can't can't be embarrassed by it. Well, it

1332
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: is embarrassing. It's humiliating to be a Jets fan. And

1333
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: he didn't just lose to the Dolphins. He lost to

1334
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: the team that he left in a mess. Let's move him.

1335
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 1: He gone. Chris Johnson was out. What's ups? Jacob Hollister's

1336
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: second store Shawks win in dramatic fashiom Git overtime. Here.

1337
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: It's such really feel water game. It's always a happy

1338
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: ending at the clink in these games. Steve rival k

1339
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: I r Oh. With the call, Russell Wilson can acts

1340
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: with Jacob Hollister ten yards score opening possession of ot

1341
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: Seahawks rally back. They went over the bucks at the clink.

1342
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: As I said, Wilson continues a brilliant season, just unbelievable.

1343
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: He's got five touchdowns in this past and in this game.

1344
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: It's a career high. And uh, the biggest problem for

1345
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks right now, Mark is Jason Myers, who can't

1346
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: make a kick, including a forty yard or that he

1347
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: missed on final play of regulation. But life's good on

1348
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: Seahawks corner, isn't it. But they overcome it. Seems like

1349
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: whatever whatever happens to the Seahawks in a game, in

1350
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: that building especially, it just seemed to always be the

1351
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: one celebrating at the end of these tight games that

1352
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: go back and forth. But I don't find that to

1353
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: be annoying with this team the same way I would

1354
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: with others. We could point out that seemed to live

1355
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: in a different cloudy hemisphere than the rest of normal

1356
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: suffering fans like the Seahawks. I like the way they're coached.

1357
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: I know a lot of Seahawks fans are down on

1358
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll for various elements that well, no, I mean,

1359
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: if not, that's that's just out there. But I we

1360
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: talked on Thursday about how the Bucks and Seahawks would

1361
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: mimic each other on some level. Greg, I think you

1362
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: thought that there were similarities, and I will concede that.

1363
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: The Bucks, to me, the early part of this game

1364
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: was Tampa Bay, and we saw a little bit early

1365
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: on against that Rams, that explosion that when they're on

1366
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: and when Jamis Winston isn't making mistakes, they are tough

1367
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 1: to deal with. Mike Evans is probably like the second

1368
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: best receiver in the league right now. He has almost

1369
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: four dred yards over two weeks. They compiled a seven

1370
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 1: lead by basically executing long, enduring drives seven plays, nine plays,

1371
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: twelve plays, ten plays, all pumping in points off of this.

1372
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: And it's the game where I thought maybe Seattle has

1373
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: more issues than I thought, because they start on defense

1374
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: and you can't ask Russell Wilson Wilson to dig you

1375
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: out of this whole week after week, but then it

1376
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: just plays to script in every possible way. Chris Carson

1377
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: was shut down early, but he had a big, big

1378
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: run in this that I thought galvinized Seattle on a

1379
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: scoring drive and then they just got hooked. And you're

1380
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: gonna get something from Tyler Lockett every week. That's magical,

1381
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: if not two or three things, and that formula all

1382
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: played out again. By the way, I should mention that

1383
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com, our website, I will remind you

1384
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: we did our mid season Super Bowl picks and I

1385
01:11:55,720 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: picked Seattle. So that is looking very good to win

1386
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You're saying to win the Super Bowl.

1387
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: What was that preseason super Bowl pick? Don't remember what

1388
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: that was. So taking the Bucks to overtime at home

1389
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: and having a negative scoring differential at home this year

1390
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: is really because that is really the difference. I think

1391
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: sometimes between you and me that you're digging into scoring difference,

1392
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: but I'm talking. I'm talking about the total human angle

1393
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: of the sea. No matter what happens, this is the end.

1394
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: They are bad defensively, but that's okay. They're just a

1395
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: bad defense, that's it. But a bunch of bad defenses

1396
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: have been in Super Bowls, and I mean we've seen

1397
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: Superowls that are eight so it could certainly happen. They

1398
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: have never been the final score of a Super Bowl. Well,

1399
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: they've been closer there in the root in the toughest

1400
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: division in football, and they're gonna have to go through

1401
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: the forty nine. They play the Rams again, and so

1402
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be tested. I'm not surprised. I think the

1403
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: Bucks came up with some positive things during their bye week.

1404
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: They've they've looked better offensively. They have Jason Pierre Paul back.

1405
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks winning this game in one score was

1406
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: just wildly predictable. It's great every single yeah, they've they've

1407
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: been in the same amount of one score games as

1408
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: the Bucks. It's insane. What a great segment. I love

1409
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: anytime Greg plays the heel and uses wildly as an

1410
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: and he came meat half, by the way, he should

1411
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: be in that offensive Rookie of the Year race two.

1412
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: He has made that big of a differences in three

1413
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: of the plays he made today. On the long touchdown,

1414
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: which was not on that you know, supposed two route

1415
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 1: tree that the only things that he could run. That

1416
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: was a pretty advanced route, he made an incredible catch

1417
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: to set up the game winning touchdown, and he made

1418
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: a player miss to set up what should have been

1419
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal like he was a difference

1420
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: maker today. And I also like that I said this

1421
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 1: the mark during one of our sky hits today. This

1422
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: probably doesn't even bear out. It just feels that way

1423
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: that Tyler Lockett and Russell Wilson never have an incompletion

1424
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: had He's only targeted like five or six game times

1425
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: a game. It's almost like there's some type of like

1426
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,719
Speaker 1: hidden number he can't go above. Well, today they targeted

1427
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 1: like a hundred times and where he had thirteen catches

1428
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: or whatever. Just throw the ball to title Locket and

1429
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: good things will happen. They have a great connection. I'll

1430
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: give you the thirteen for one fifty two, eighteen targets

1431
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Everything works out in that building for them,

1432
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: these close games always does. Can't you be happy for them?

1433
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: I am okay, oh, I sense a little bit of

1434
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: little I am a little bit. I am a little

1435
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: bit annoyed in the sense that any franchise that it

1436
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: seems like it always works out. But then you think,

1437
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: all right, shut up, Dan, and like Mina Kinds, for instance,

1438
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: listening should be like what about super Bowl forty nine?

1439
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: That should count as like a thousand failures in your building.

1440
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: So maybe it's even Stephen that that doesn't remind me.

1441
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: At the end of this game, they're like, oh see,

1442
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: Dan was like, are going to get a call here?

1443
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: They always do? They do. They like a guy who's

1444
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: throwing the ball downfield and getting past interference calls, because

1445
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: that's what they do with you. I'm on Seahawks corner

1446
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: because you were. You had them penciled in at seven

1447
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: and nine. Uh and laid gus and I said, no,

1448
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna figure out a way, just like they always aren't.

1449
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: Here they are seven and two. That's amazing. If they

1450
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: throw the ball forty times the game, it sure is amazing.

1451
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: If they throw the ball forty times the game and

1452
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: embrace that, then I'm back, Well, let's cross our fingers

1453
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: keep doing it. I'm sure that's how they're gonna game

1454
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: plan from here on out. How do we lure Greig

1455
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: back into our fan fold? Finally, all right, let's move

1456
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: on out of the shotgun. On first down, face the

1457
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: hand off to Burkehead throws the edlement of the line,

1458
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: slipped one tackler but won't get far, bubbles the ball

1459
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: recover by the Ravens. Marlon Humphrey, How's it and he's

1460
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: streaking down the sidelines. He should look funny. Ten five

1461
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: touchdown the Ravens. Marlon and Humphrey. Mr Instant score strikes again,

1462
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: Mr Instant score. That might stick. Jerry Sandusky w b

1463
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: A L with the call. Yes, Marlon Humphrey becomes the

1464
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: first raven And team history to score touchdowns on bubble

1465
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 1: recoveries and back to back weeks. This one changed the

1466
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: game at Sunday Night Football, Um, the Ravens get some

1467
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: much needed breathing room go on to win thirty seven

1468
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: to twenty over the New England Patriots, who fall for

1469
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: the first time this season. They're eight and one. The Ravens, meanwhile,

1470
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: moved to six and two. They have a stranglehold over

1471
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: the a f C North And yes, you talk about

1472
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: the top of the a f C UM. They know

1473
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: the tiebreaker on the Pats when you look at seeds

1474
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: and buys and all that good stuff. So that's what

1475
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday night. Lamar Jackson again, Mark does his thing.

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Speaker 1: He has a touchdown run, he has sixty more yards rushing,

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: two more scores on the ground. He's just a different

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: player than anybody else. If I want to view. This

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01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: is a Ravens fan different than other instances of New

1480
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: England dropping a game in the regular season, people typically

1481
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: overreacting before New England and furls eight straight wins and

1482
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: then detonates said team in the playoffs the second time around.

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: It's that Baltimore one in the ways that they've won

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01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,879
Speaker 1: other games. Thirty seven plus minutes of time of possession,

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: two hundred plus yards on the ground, Lamar Jackson doing

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: things that no one can stop as he's roaming through

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01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: cowd Patriots defenders, making all of us our jaws drop

1488
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: as we watch him run with the ball. I mean,

1489
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: they didn't have to become something other than what they've

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01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: been all year, and they completely overpowered and streaks of

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01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: dominant play tonight. That's very encouraging. I think they're the

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01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: hardest team in the NFL to prepare for, especially when

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01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 1: they are at full strength, which they are with Hollywood

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01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: Brown on the field, and there's no way you can

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01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 1: come up with a defense that defends what Lamar Jackson

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01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: did on that on that run where they had him cornered.

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Speaker 1: As West said at the time, he Lamar makes his

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: own space. But ultimately there's a spot in every game

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: where you just gotta make a great throw. And it's

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01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty in this game, the Patriots had

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: just scored. Uh, they had just moved the ball up

1502
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: and down the field. Start the third quarter, it's third down.

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: Dan Hansis says before a third and five. I believe

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01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: this this play decides the game. Yeah, I felt a

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: little early with seven minutes left in the third quarter.

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01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: But you know what Lamar does. He drops a pass

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01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: over the defense into the bucket against Mark Andrews. Not

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: an easy pass to complete. He has a great drive.

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01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: They score touch on You're kind of right, well. They

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01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, after falling behind early, got back into the game.

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01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: Then they take the ball at the half, they start

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: marching down the field again and it feels like, oh,

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: they're going about today control this game. The Marlon Huff

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01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: returnover happens, but then the Pats go straight down the

1515
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: field again, and everyone's remarking on social media how gas

1516
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense is. And then the Ravens are facing

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01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: that third down, facing a potential third and three and

1518
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 1: out that would send that defense back on the field,

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01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: and instead he converts it, turns it into a four

1520
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: teen play, eighty something yard drive in the touchdown. Uh

1521
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: and at that point the Ravens were control of the game.

1522
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: And and John Harbaugh went for fourth and four on

1523
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: that drive instead of letting Justin kicker Justin Tucker kick

1524
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: you know what, it would have been a fifty yard

1525
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: plus And that showed some moneions. That showed an awareness

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: of what type of game it was. In the quarterback.

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01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: We're in a lot of faith in Lamar and the

1528
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: faith in the numbers as opposed to the Patriots who

1529
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: didn't go for it on fourth in goal, you know,

1530
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: because I think Bill Belichick was hoping that it was

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01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: going to turn into a lower score game and that

1532
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: wasn't in the cards. It's hard to resist being hyperbolic

1533
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: about this game. The Ravens scored half the points that

1534
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots have allowed on defense this year, or half

1535
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: the touchdowns and thirty eight percent of the points the

1536
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 1: Patriots have allowed all year on defense. You look at

1537
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: this game and you think Lamar Jackson's MVP candidate. It's

1538
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 1: another reminder that even though John Horriball's job was whispered

1539
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: about a couple of years ago, one of the top

1540
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: five coaches in the NFL. Greg Roman, maybe a head

1541
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: coach candidate that Lamar Jackson landed with the exact right franchise,

1542
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: willing to embrace analytics and put their whole offseason program

1543
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: around building the offense to suit Lamar Jackson's unique skills.

1544
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: This looks like a Super Bowl contender. They they are,

1545
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: and I think this has been a day in the

1546
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: a f C where that the talk that I never

1547
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: believed in that the Patriots are so far ahead of

1548
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: the pack um looks different because the Chiefs they would

1549
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: get a big win without Mahomes and Texans get a

1550
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: win at least maybe they're in the mix and the

1551
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: Ravens are in the now. That said, I also don't

1552
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: think it's that big of a loss for the Patriots.

1553
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: I think losses happened, that they're a growing team that

1554
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: they need to be better on offense. I think at

1555
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: times tonight they showed some things on offense that look

1556
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 1: pretty good. Mohammed Sandho is gonna be a big addition

1557
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: for them. They it's a matchup game where they do

1558
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: not match up well with the Ravens speed. They'll if

1559
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: they see them again in the playoffs, they'll have seen

1560
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: it once. Maybe that helps them or not. Maybe they

1561
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: don't play the Ravens, But I just think there are

1562
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: other good teams in the a f C. They would

1563
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: have had a three game lead on the entire a

1564
01:20:58,160 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: f C had they won this game. I mean, we

1565
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: can talk about these teams knocking off New England in

1566
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: the regular season, but how many times has New England

1567
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: been been beaten twice by the same team in one year.

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I that's where that's where I it's nice,

1569
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: but someone going and doing it to the Patriots in

1570
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: January a second time. That's the challenge. And I warn

1571
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: anyone out there that you're gonna listen to some sports

1572
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: talk shows in the morning and first take type things

1573
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: that are gonna say that the Patriots have been exposed,

1574
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: that the Patriots finally played a team that was worth

1575
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: a damn and got their asses whipped. Well, you know what,

1576
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: calmed down with that, because this is a bump in

1577
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: the road. And I'm and what's been a pretty dreadful

1578
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: season for people like me that either route for a

1579
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 1: bad team or root against the Patriots or both. Uh,

1580
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: this was a nice moment, but I am not here.

1581
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: They're not sixty. Now you said this, and he said,

1582
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: I was putting her reverse jinks on them. I really

1583
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: thought that it's a tough It's a tough to pick

1584
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: the Ravens. It's the first time in the history of

1585
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: podcast you picked against the Patriots. They they have a

1586
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: really tough schedule over the next five weeks. They go

1587
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia after they're by. I think this is a

1588
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: perfectly time to buy. They need to get Isaiah Win

1589
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: back their left tackle eventually. Uh well, I mean you

1590
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: have to have a by eventually. But also I like

1591
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: going into the by with a loss. I think Bill

1592
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: Belichick does. Like at Eagles versus Cowboys, at Texans versus Chiefs.

1593
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: I think those are five of the best teams, most

1594
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 1: talented teams that they could face. I think if they

1595
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: go four and two in that stretch, they already have

1596
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: a loss, they're gonna get the one seed. If they

1597
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: go three and three in that stretch stretch, they still

1598
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: might get the one seed. They're still in very good

1599
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: shape to to round, you know, into getting home field.

1600
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: I personally prefer to go into the buy on a win.

1601
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, this defense isn't the eight five Bears. I

1602
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: think we sold that they got run on by the

1603
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: Browns last week, they got run on by the Ravens

1604
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: this week. Just don't count them out. They could go

1605
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: on another dominant stretch at any time. Alright, any final

1606
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game? Poor Mark, he couldn't even enjoy,

1607
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 1: like I couldn't even enjoy a Patriots loss, because then

1608
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 1: he realized, oh great, the Ravens are gonna win the

1609
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Like, well, I've already been to one live

1610
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: experience of watching Baltimore win the Super Bowl. I mean,

1611
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: beating your wife's favorite team right one is enough. But

1612
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 1: it's going to be too because that's how the NFL

1613
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: fortune seemed to work in the favor for some of

1614
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: us are not in the favor. UM, thank you everyone

1615
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: for listening. We'll be back on Tuesday with our next show, UH,

1616
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: where we'll break down the final game of week nine,

1617
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: Monday night football matchup that pits the Dallas Cowboys and

1618
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. UH and then UH also Thursday,

1619
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 1: and you know what happens Thursday, we preview week ten.

1620
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: That's the wheel goes round and round. So thank you

1621
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: everybody for both listening watching. You guys are the best. UM,

1622
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Dan Hands is signing off

1623
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood.

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01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: Mattie can't filling in. Everybody doing their share till Thursday