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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Ravens Presspass podcast. The Ravens approved a

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Speaker 1: nine to five on Sunday after a thirty five to

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Speaker 1: fourteen victory over the New York Giants. The Ravens are

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Speaker 1: now on a short week with the Pittsburgh Steelers coming

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Speaker 1: to town for an AFC North showdown Saturday at four thirty.

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Speaker 1: As the Ravens prepare for that game, today, we had

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Speaker 1: a chance to hear from head coach John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate everybody being here. Happy with the win, which

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Speaker 2: we needed to keep pace, and now we're heading into

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Speaker 2: the challenge this Saturday against Pittsburgh, a very important game

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Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons, and we're going to need

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Speaker 2: to be at our very best. They're an excellent football team.

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Speaker 2: We're ready for the challenge. What questions you guys have, John.

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Speaker 3: We just saw a statement that was released about Dean

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Speaker 3: Tate Johnson jually read noticipate team activities this week. After

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Speaker 3: this week? Do you do you foresee him practicing with

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Speaker 2: What I foresee really, to be honest with you, and

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Speaker 2: all I'm really thinking about right now is Pittsburgh. I'm

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Speaker 2: getting our team ready for Pittsburgh. So he won't be

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Speaker 2: here this week and next week will take care of itself. John,

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Speaker 2: I guess I just want to quick follow about that,

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Speaker 2: and then why did you just decide to handle it

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Speaker 2: that way and not simply releasing I'm really interested in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Stealers. To be honest with you, I know you

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Speaker 2: guys want to hear the story. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: moving parts there are. There are reasons for doing things

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Speaker 2: that are front office type reasons, you know. Do I

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Speaker 2: want to sit here and get into all the different

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Speaker 2: calculations that Eric makes, I really don't. I want to

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Speaker 2: and the guys who are going to be here playing

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Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. That's that's my folk, because one hundred percent, John,

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Speaker 4: The challenges all of you talked about how big of

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Speaker 4: a game this is obviously going up against the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: but play on one a short we both you guys

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's a challenge for both teams you know,

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Speaker 2: we're both playing on the same deal. We both played Sunday,

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Speaker 2: we're playing each other on Saturday. So that's just a

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Speaker 2: each other enough, right, I don't think that's a problem

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Speaker 2: plan right. You know, we want to get our football right.

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Speaker 2: That's what we wanna do. We wanna prepare it, you know,

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Speaker 2: to the best of our abilities to go and go

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Speaker 2: I mean it's really not any different than any other week.

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Speaker 2: So we're ready to do that and we're excited for it.

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Speaker 2: And I can't wait for the guys to come walking

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Speaker 5: How much does that Last Encounters needed you with it

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Speaker 5: all because of the fact that it was such a

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Speaker 2: Know, I just been watching I watched a game a

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Speaker 2: number of times now. The last actually last week. I

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Speaker 2: Watch it again this morning, and so much to learn

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Speaker 2: what we need to do to try to win this game.

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Speaker 2: Play our best football is we're focused on.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of the players said that you

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Speaker 2: This this game, probably don't have to. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: And then let's do well everything we can do to

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Speaker 3: John, can you put into perspective just how big of

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Speaker 3: a game was for those rookies the step of what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point, you know, for

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Speaker 2: Just just appreciated seeing that. I think this rookie class

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Speaker 6: Yeah, movement over the last.

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Speaker 6: Do you feel like you're getting a good feel for,

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Speaker 2: He's a young guy, you know, and he he plays

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Speaker 6: So we training is that kind of a game plan

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Speaker 2: Almost week the week, you know, week the week.

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Speaker 7: John, we saw Jordan stout kickoff. Was that just a

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Speaker 2: That was it could be the plan going forward at times,

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Speaker 2: but you know, the fact he can do it. Getting

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Jeff, I mean, he hadn't

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Speaker 5: Nate Wiggins had a lot of action in this game,

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Speaker 4: Job with the kick and that justin Tuncker obviously didn't

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Speaker 2: The Yeah, it was kind of a win decision that

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Speaker 2: He's kicked it from all three spots in the past.

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Speaker 2: But that's what they talked about in terms of going

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Speaker 7: Always put up some fantastic numbers.

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Speaker 3: He just liked. Lamar has always kind of put up

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Speaker 3: these fantastic order. The one team that has kind of

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Speaker 3: a lot of you know, intricacies to say it, but

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Speaker 3: is there something generally back the Steelers do they have

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Speaker 3: done well to kind of limit Lamar that other teams.

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Speaker 2: Have not been needed to do well. I mean they've

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Speaker 2: what winning games is, you know, and have done a

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Speaker 7: I'm assuming, like Ronner Rosencuardin had another really.

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Speaker 3: Solid game history.

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Speaker 6: I mean, do you feel like over the last month

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Speaker 6: just a good starter.

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Speaker 2: I think Roger's doing a great job Chiles. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's he's definitely playing winning football at right tackle. So

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Speaker 2: that's what you look for, you know. And if another

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Speaker 2: Of every week. Yeah, it's very significant. I mean he's

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Speaker 7: This week we'll practice.

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Speaker 3: We'll be kind of your usual Thursday where you're not

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Speaker 7: You've got penalties on the films, specifically from the defensive

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Speaker 2: It should never really happen. But when we watched the tape,

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Speaker 2: you know, I told him, I told him, I told

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Speaker 2: So sometimes there's mitigating factors. Other times it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: But we do. We break it down. We break every

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Speaker 7: John with Brandon Stevens in particular, people how sticky is

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Speaker 2: Sure, that's what That's what teams do. You know, that's

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Speaker 4: Similarly to the child's question about coach on the Stevens,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do it with pads, so we we have

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Speaker 2: probably take it so, but yeah, we try to drill it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's to me it's as much as a

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Speaker 2: Came around there a little bit blind, not making excuses.

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Speaker 2: You have to come off to the side. You got

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Speaker 2: He knew it right away. You know, he was disappointed

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Speaker 5: John, you changed your story punt returner Tyle the Wallace

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Des has you know, been a really good player

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