Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you. Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture goodness dulling? And you know,
Speaker 1: some things to address up top as usual. This is
Speaker 1: day three of our unplanned saga. We thought we could
Speaker 1: get all of this out and pay respects within one
Speaker 1: two hour chunk, and yet we that was the hubristic
Speaker 1: sort of journey that we were on on this episode,
Speaker 1: and we overcame our fatal flaw and now we are
Speaker 1: going to hopefully get through the rest of the Top
Speaker 1: twenty five. I think we can do it. We've returned
Speaker 1: to a situation where we're drinking vodka red ball. We
Speaker 1: have actually returned a bookend, so we are actually back
Speaker 1: to alcohol consumption, which I feel good about. But one
Speaker 1: thing I don't feel great about is you know, as
Speaker 1: we said yesterday, there was going to be some changes
Speaker 1: and removals and additions to the list, because that can
Speaker 1: happen um and Bowen Yang has chosen to take off
Speaker 1: the list. He actually argues, it is not a part
Speaker 1: of culture, and I think it is a part of culture.
Speaker 1: It was even in the top. Okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: I will not I'll get to I want you to
Speaker 1: say it. I'll get to what. I replaced what we're
Speaker 1: about to reveal with once we get to it. But
Speaker 1: I took out first of all, let me know, this
Speaker 1: is what I have to say up top before we
Speaker 1: get into this. The way we wrote this list was
Speaker 1: we started with number one, we don't need to know
Speaker 1: the process. But they don't need to know the process.
Speaker 1: They don't need to know the process. So it felt
Speaker 1: like very sort of like a stream of consciousness that
Speaker 1: we were just putting in random things willy nilly and
Speaker 1: not really giving thought to the order when we've been
Speaker 1: giving thought to the order this whole time. Um absolutely
Speaker 1: big old freak by making the stallion, beat out Jonas
Speaker 1: sal conventing the polio vaccine for empirical reasons. We agree
Speaker 1: on that. We agree on that one. I took out
Speaker 1: Christina Ricci, who was I think at the twenty took
Speaker 1: out Christina Ricci, and they replaced it with something much
Speaker 1: more significant, Christina Richie, I mean, after Adam's family, like
Speaker 1: what was like the big moment, like that darn cat
Speaker 1: white snake, moan um black snake like Beau that was tough,
Speaker 1: and who else is in the movie justin Timber like
Speaker 1: who Cares and Samuel l and I just want to
Speaker 1: say something. You don't just fly through Adams family. I
Speaker 1: don't see Wednesday Adams and if for you to say
Speaker 1: that Christina Ricci is not a part of culture. She
Speaker 1: was also iconically in the Cold Black episode of Gray
Speaker 1: as Anatomy. It's unbelievable what you do in the way
Speaker 1: you act and behave. I don't think she is the moment.
Speaker 1: She is not a moment. She was such a moment.
Speaker 1: She invented dead pan, she invented dead pand but dead
Speaker 1: Pan Jendine Garoffalo found dead and j Raffalo found dead.
Speaker 1: When we called it out to that Christina, I mean
Speaker 1: she had invented dead pan. I want to say that
Speaker 1: what I replaced Christina reach me with, well, we will
Speaker 1: talk about this when we get to it. And I
Speaker 1: would argue a huge moment for the culture, an actual moment,
Speaker 1: someone doing something and it affect serious. Look at Christina
Speaker 1: Ricci's efforts to film and television, I don't understand that
Speaker 1: when when she was in Adam's family, turning those lines,
Speaker 1: those one liners, it had never been seen before. One
Speaker 1: on a wishes, no wishes, Oh my god, we Nona
Speaker 1: sadly did not make the list. She did make went
Speaker 1: on a writer is not on the list, not even
Speaker 1: for her SAG Awards, um faces, not even for her
Speaker 1: with the Christmas lights, not even for her during her
Speaker 1: actual peak. I mean, okay, Matt, I think it's time
Speaker 1: to dive into the top fighte us not agreeing on
Speaker 1: Christina Ricci. I think we agree on literallycent of the list,
Speaker 1: and that includes what we're about to say. So of
Speaker 1: two hundred items is point well, so my statistics weren't
Speaker 1: exactly dead on. No, no no, no, I no, I'm just
Speaker 1: doing the math and I'm like, okay, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: like distributed over the two hundred there are parts of
Speaker 1: each item on the list that we disagree on. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that, But that's part of partnership and concession,
Speaker 1: and that's part of moving forward. You know. We can't
Speaker 1: agree on everything. Yes, we just want to clear up
Speaker 1: something too. Um. We had people reach out through saying,
Speaker 1: oh God, I hope this person doesn't make it on
Speaker 1: the list, or this person doesn't make it on the list,
Speaker 1: like people that they seem to dislike, and we go
Speaker 1: that's not yes, exactly, this is not the biggest impact people.
Speaker 1: It is the We should clarify that it's cultural moments
Speaker 1: that were positive that positively effective. This is cultural canon
Speaker 1: and there's no place for your negativity or disagreement. You
Speaker 1: are not the culture is that's we are. We say
Speaker 1: the list. Oh no, but I'm saying it's no negative people.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: negative stuff in the list because that's not actually contributing
Speaker 1: to culture. Exactly. You have to be positive to contribute
Speaker 1: to culture, and that's actually really culture number twelve. You
Speaker 1: have to be positive to contribute to culture. You know,
Speaker 1: even the quote unquote nasty moments on the list, including
Speaker 1: Rosie and Elizabeth's fight on the view or contribute positively
Speaker 1: in a way exactly. And even Jamie Jamille is multiple
Speaker 1: slash conflicting stories about getting chased by bees that positively
Speaker 1: contributed to the culture. It positively contributes to the culture
Speaker 1: because it makes it more of a possibility that she
Speaker 1: has done on Snatch Game soon. Yes, I think that
Speaker 1: when you when here's the thing about Jamila Jamil and
Speaker 1: we hope someone is playing a really good long game
Speaker 1: because she's making herself iconic for questionable things and that
Speaker 1: is going to make her an amazing Snatch Game character. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with the drag queen one day. Uh you, Matt.
Speaker 1: You know. My theory on Lady Gaga is that her
Speaker 1: whole career, every part of her career, has been performance
Speaker 1: of fame. I feel Jamie Jamil is doing the same
Speaker 1: kind of performance. Are on the same level, I would
Speaker 1: even say, so, what we're saying is Jamila Jamil is
Speaker 1: actually a war holy and sort of artist, yes, but
Speaker 1: with sort of like um pull quotes, with pull quotes,
Speaker 1: with seemingly playing a heightened version of a character that
Speaker 1: she played on a TV show. Yeah. Um, it's so fascinating.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fascinating thing. And the fact that
Speaker 1: she gets the center chair on Legendary makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: And yet there she is announcing stealing stuff from Deshaun Wesley,
Speaker 1: being like, actually, I'm gonna be the one to explain
Speaker 1: what the moneyball situation is. It's it's it's amazing. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not dragging him saying it's it's performance. Are it
Speaker 1: is it's performance? I'm not dragging. I'm not dragging. To me,
Speaker 1: there's actually nothing funnier than a beautiful woman being traced
Speaker 1: by a bee. Like beautiful woman being chased by and
Speaker 1: in fact chased by so many bees that it plagues her.
Speaker 1: To me, there's not much funnier than that than that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Macaulay Culkin wishes in My Girl, oh honey.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, not a beautiful woman, not
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman at the time, like a fine looking boy.
Speaker 1: Now when you come out and you say I was
Speaker 1: chased by bees, and that's that's what persecutes me. That
Speaker 1: actually takes away from McAuley, and that is a problem.
Speaker 1: Now we wish we could say Macaulay was on the list.
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not on the list. He's not on
Speaker 1: the list. He did not make the list. Not even
Speaker 1: Anna Klumsky on the list. No one from My Girl
Speaker 1: on the list, no one from No one from the
Speaker 1: cast of Home Alone on the list. Not even not
Speaker 1: even Katherine Mahara, who I think has made a career
Speaker 1: that would um sort of definitely weren't consideration for the list.
Speaker 1: She just didn't make She just didn't make it. She
Speaker 1: couldn't even really match up with Nicole Scherzinger on honorable mention,
Speaker 1: so she wasn't even an honorable mention, although it's nothing
Speaker 1: against her, it's just she didn't make the list this time.
Speaker 1: It was not a moment. You know, when we get
Speaker 1: to our foode, there's gonna be a whole new list. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about her then, but for now, no, no, um,
Speaker 1: and we will. Let's just say this is Would you
Speaker 1: say that this is a living document, Matt, I would
Speaker 1: say that all documents are lived ng in a way. Okay,
Speaker 1: I I love that, Thank you so much. Um. I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree that this is a living document because it
Speaker 1: comes from We're actually going to talk about where documents
Speaker 1: come from in rule number twenty sorry and number twenty
Speaker 1: four on the list. Absolutely. Um, So what do you
Speaker 1: say we actually get the beginning? I say, we get
Speaker 1: the beginning, all right. So, um, there's twenty five things
Speaker 1: that are in the top twenty five moments of culture,
Speaker 1: and we are so excited and we have plenty of
Speaker 1: time to really get into it, really get into it. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: number twenty five. I can't believe that we're finally counting
Speaker 1: on the top twenty five. This is really this feels
Speaker 1: really cool. Number five on the list is every actress
Speaker 1: and drop dead gorgeous the fact that, and why shouldn't
Speaker 1: she be first? Rightfully? So, I mean when she did
Speaker 1: that dance with Jesus, Oh my God, just too good
Speaker 1: to be true, and when she was a face on
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. I mean a gene performance you gotta talk about.
Speaker 1: Here's the alley you gotta talk about. You know, say
Speaker 1: what you want, but she is giving you everything? Is
Speaker 1: that for me or my gown? Sade works by their
Speaker 1: don again? Um? Okay? And then you had Allison Janny
Speaker 1: and Alison Janny at Ellen Barkin, Ellen Barkin, Ellen Barkin
Speaker 1: and Allison Janny the duo to end all duo, duo
Speaker 1: to end all duo, as you had not an actress.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to miss gender. Will Sasso, Will Sasso
Speaker 1: in in a fun role. So this this, this item
Speaker 1: is every actress and dropped. And you say Will Sasso
Speaker 1: and you know and the way that all those movies
Speaker 1: are a little tough to watch because they have an
Speaker 1: aged well, um, will say, so there there's there is
Speaker 1: potentially enable us to performance. That's that's there. That's problematic, right,
Speaker 1: But we acknowledge we don't celebrate Will Sass. So we
Speaker 1: say that Will Sasso is there, but that this is
Speaker 1: about the actress not on the list, not on the list,
Speaker 1: but he's not on the list. Who is on the
Speaker 1: list has cast Maine on mat TV. She has made
Speaker 1: the list prior, but not Will Sassa does not make
Speaker 1: the list as part of the number twenty five every
Speaker 1: actress and dropped Dead Gorgeous who does make the list
Speaker 1: is Kirsten Dunst. Kirsten duns now here's the thing about
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunst. Another iconic moment that could have made the
Speaker 1: list but did not was the toothbrushing scene and bringing
Speaker 1: on bringing on. That was very close to making the list. Um.
Speaker 1: But what she does here and dropped Gorgeous is the
Speaker 1: next level and every actress in this has done next
Speaker 1: level work. Yes. Um. Another Kirsty moment, if I might add,
Speaker 1: that did not make the list, but her being separated
Speaker 1: um from her dog and Marie Antoinette in the beginning,
Speaker 1: very emotional. She was very sad to be leaving that
Speaker 1: dog and to be married to this you know, short Frenchman.
Speaker 1: So you really love it? Have you seen on becoming
Speaker 1: a god? I saw the pilot and the way she
Speaker 1: sort of screams after she shoots the bullets into the
Speaker 1: lake after at the crocodiles. The end of the episode.
Speaker 1: I love the way she skin and we talked about
Speaker 1: the skins what appears to be an actual lie of crocodile.
Speaker 1: In the beginning of the second episode of I'm Becoming
Speaker 1: a God, we did talk about this, how you were
Speaker 1: pretty pretty convinced it was recodile crocodile, and well, it
Speaker 1: would be an alligator if it was in Florida. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it was an alligator, but she peels the skin
Speaker 1: and the scales. Yeah, but I feel it must have
Speaker 1: been a prop, And I was saying that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a prop budget or an effects
Speaker 1: budget to make I mean, you know, taken up with Peter,
Speaker 1: but they might have actually bought some dead gators. So
Speaker 1: you think that As someone who knows the magic, IM
Speaker 1: not saying that I know. I think this was a
Speaker 1: real alley. I'm not saying that I have any specific
Speaker 1: industry knowledge, but it just seemed like a real alligator.
Speaker 1: We're going to need the set designer or props Department
Speaker 1: of Becoming a God in Central FORID, so please reach
Speaker 1: out regardless. This has been twenty five every actress dropped
Speaker 1: out of Gorgeous and we have to say, just before
Speaker 1: we got Murphy is to this guy, you were the one.
Speaker 1: And please understand that you were also iconic and clueless
Speaker 1: for saying you're a virgin who can't drive, and that
Speaker 1: you also did not make the list for that, but
Speaker 1: you do make the list as part of the drop
Speaker 1: out of Gorgeous cast. We do give props to Uptown Girl.
Speaker 1: Uptown Girls, and we love you Britney Murphy. And we
Speaker 1: talked about this, I mean many at this point, many, many,
Speaker 1: many people have put forward the theory that had she
Speaker 1: been alive, were she still alive today, she would have
Speaker 1: won an Oscar right now. I think my theory is
Speaker 1: she would have been one of the queens of television.
Speaker 1: She would have been the queens of peak TV. I
Speaker 1: don't think Oscar for her. I think two or three
Speaker 1: Emmy's Got Could you imagine a Brittany Murphy led like
Speaker 1: Prestige TV show? I can't imagine it. How good would
Speaker 1: that be? It would be amazing. She peeked before her time.
Speaker 1: We love Brittany. Brittany. Now another thing we love talk
Speaker 1: about living documents from before this rule number. I keep
Speaker 1: calling them rules because we famously do. Rules of culture
Speaker 1: is a little paradigm shift number twenty four on the
Speaker 1: top two lists in two moments, Moments and cultural history
Speaker 1: is the invention of paper. Huge. Um. I know, I
Speaker 1: know things are a little bit tense when we think
Speaker 1: of Chinese person right now. I can't believe you just
Speaker 1: said that. You know, I know there's there's tension, and
Speaker 1: there's potentially yet another pandemic, uh, potential flu that's coming
Speaker 1: out of We can't talk about that. Um, that's not
Speaker 1: what we're we're talking about. We're talking about the invention
Speaker 1: of paper, which was people think it's Egyptian. It's an
Speaker 1: Egyptian invention that papyrus has started at all. Now it
Speaker 1: was the Chinese who took a bunch of started it
Speaker 1: all started all in a different way, in a different way.
Speaker 1: Some man um took a bunch of leaves, um ground
Speaker 1: and wood and ground them into the mulch and then
Speaker 1: laid it out and let it flattened it, let it
Speaker 1: soak in the sun, and then they got the idea
Speaker 1: to write on it. I can't believe this is true.
Speaker 1: This is paper came from China. This is the anecdotal fact.
Speaker 1: So paper is a Chinese invention, not Egyptian. And we
Speaker 1: have to that's actually a role of culture, role of culture.
Speaker 1: Number papers actually invention China, not Egyptian. So unfortunately Egypt
Speaker 1: this you lose this from, this is not yours. And
Speaker 1: I just have to say, we would not have so
Speaker 1: many amazing things if we hadn't had paper. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had, you know, the journals that Tellership wrote her
Speaker 1: songs in. We wouldn't have had the napkin that U J.
Speaker 1: Jk Rolling wrote and we we celebrate her. We would
Speaker 1: have had the paper that um was a fast similar
Speaker 1: on the Google document that JK. Rowling wrote her seven
Speaker 1: paragraphs transperob excreed on that she would later published onto
Speaker 1: her own website. And you'll also noticed that no Harry
Speaker 1: Potter appears on the list of culture. And honestly a
Speaker 1: month ago that would have sounded crazy, but not anymore,
Speaker 1: But not anymore anymore. And I want to say Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift's journals, Yes, thinking Matt. Without paper, we would not
Speaker 1: have the notes ap Apology, which was in many ways
Speaker 1: innovated and perfected by miss Taylor Swift apps. I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean, she wants to be removed from this narrative.
Speaker 1: Who could forget what she wants? She would very much
Speaker 1: have liked to been excluded from this narrative. I was
Speaker 1: not aware that I was being called a bit or
Speaker 1: something like where's the footage of where she is? Notes
Speaker 1: app queen and and a lyrics pass on a notes
Speaker 1: app queen. Only the young can run, Only the young
Speaker 1: can run. Yeah, um, let's just say this has kind
Speaker 1: of become about notes app, this is about paper when
Speaker 1: it was really about paper. And that's actually a comment
Speaker 1: on were we aware we were making the comment? You decide,
Speaker 1: you decide. So Number twenty three on the list is
Speaker 1: Bond girls. You know these girls. These are the girls
Speaker 1: in every Bond movie. Of course I'm talking about James Bond,
Speaker 1: but it was right to say his name, his last
Speaker 1: name first, because that's what he does in this town.
Speaker 1: Make no mistake. They are not his possessions. They're not
Speaker 1: his there autonomous women. They are the girls of the
Speaker 1: Bond um sort of you know, film genre, and so
Speaker 1: many amazing women starting with Ursula Andrews running all the
Speaker 1: way up to him. Is Anna da Arms that's going
Speaker 1: to come out next year. Girl. We have seen Denise
Speaker 1: Richards play a Bond girl. We have seen Terry Hatcher Michelle,
Speaker 1: we have seen Michelle Yo. We have seen miss my
Speaker 1: favorite Bond girl, Bombkaen play of course Zenia on the
Speaker 1: top and killed men? Was she squeezed with her thighs?
Speaker 1: And this is the camp that I'm looking for in
Speaker 1: James Bond? Thank you? And is is this? Are these
Speaker 1: movies bringing the camp? Would you say? I don't know
Speaker 1: that Anna da Armis is going to serve camp to me,
Speaker 1: you know? And I want a little goofy now I
Speaker 1: want That's the thing is. It's like it's the same
Speaker 1: thing with with Batman movies, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we're going to get into but we're gonna get
Speaker 1: into that. I appreciate that The Dark Night and Christopher
Speaker 1: Nolan had its dark moment, but at its heart, I
Speaker 1: want Joel Schumacher sort of gay camp nipples on the
Speaker 1: batsuit and I kind of want the equivalent of that
Speaker 1: with James Bond. I want him to say something corny
Speaker 1: and literally every woman in the entire place like drowns
Speaker 1: in their own wetness. I love that about James. But
Speaker 1: I love that about James Bond. I mean a full fantasy,
Speaker 1: like there are no actual women like this who behave
Speaker 1: like this in the world too. Are so capable and
Speaker 1: so smart and yet completely horny enough and so hot
Speaker 1: and so horny enough to like let those things kind
Speaker 1: of slide out of their humanity when they see James Bond.
Speaker 1: What is your Bond girl name? Oh my god, m hmm,
Speaker 1: this is hard, This is hard. I have mine, Dr
Speaker 1: Natasha nut that's really good. And they call me Dr
Speaker 1: nut Doctor, and they call me doctor Nut. Where are
Speaker 1: you meeting, Mr Bond? P I have my PhD in
Speaker 1: um quantum physics. And also you getting that nut get
Speaker 1: this nut. Dr Natasha Nutt meets James Bond actually in
Speaker 1: uh sort of science bunker very close to the Arctic.
Speaker 1: It's way up north. Because I've actually been. My knowledge
Speaker 1: is so severe that I have they have to put
Speaker 1: me very far away, so he has to come to
Speaker 1: the Arctic to sort of, you know, get to know
Speaker 1: me a little bit better. And let's just say that
Speaker 1: things get a little hot at the Arctic pole and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I die in the movie after you give after we
Speaker 1: have intelligence? Fine, blowing sex. I give crucial intelligence and
Speaker 1: then I'm actually, um, this is this is so sad.
Speaker 1: Dr Natasha Nutt gets um impaled on the North Pole.
Speaker 1: It exists, there's a poll there, there's a poll there,
Speaker 1: and get Santa. She gets impaled on it when they
Speaker 1: befriend Santa. And then it turns out that Santa is
Speaker 1: a Russian op. And you said Dr nut specializes in
Speaker 1: Arctic science. Um no, I said, she specializes in physics
Speaker 1: and getting that nut and getting that nut. She has
Speaker 1: to live by the Arctic Circle because they don't want
Speaker 1: anyone to find her. Amazing. She's such an amazing mind.
Speaker 1: And she also looks like young Kyle Richards. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know Amanda Kimmel Circus Survivor China. Ye, she actually
Speaker 1: looks like me. A k a Amanda Kimmel Circus Survivor China.
Speaker 1: You guys have the same face very much. So I
Speaker 1: have my name. I knew it, Okay, she doesn't drink alcohol.
Speaker 1: So her name is youth pastor Tita Taylor, Tita Taylor
Speaker 1: Tester Taylor, Teo Taylor. And her name is Titta Taylor Taylor,
Speaker 1: and she's a youth pastor and she has. She's actually
Speaker 1: an op. She works for Always Option, works for the
Speaker 1: n s A. She has crucial information on the Archdiocese
Speaker 1: of Colorado because I mean, I think the reason I
Speaker 1: took the role was because the characters from Colorado. That's
Speaker 1: she gives James Bond for some reason. James Bond is
Speaker 1: in the Rockies. She gives James Bond information on the
Speaker 1: Archdiocese of Colorado for burying a lot of like scandalous
Speaker 1: activity from the Catholic Church. Does she die? She lives,
Speaker 1: She lives, lives, and she becomes I want to say,
Speaker 1: a Fox News commentator. Oh no, I see when that happens.
Speaker 1: She's she's the intelligence expert that they bring on Wait
Speaker 1: did I tell you they brought me back for another
Speaker 1: Bond movie, but to play a different character. Her name
Speaker 1: is Who's her name is? Lifa, Lifa l e A
Speaker 1: f A. What's her story? Oh my god? She blends
Speaker 1: into the trees camo queen and a hunting expert. Yes,
Speaker 1: so she's a hunting expert and camouflage expert, and she
Speaker 1: meets James Bond when he has to um spy in
Speaker 1: the trees. She's only in it for a really short
Speaker 1: time lifa. Um, she's incredibly hot. She has triple age tits,
Speaker 1: and she is able to get up in the trees
Speaker 1: and blend in and do the same and um she
Speaker 1: she We don't find out if she lives. Her dies,
Speaker 1: which makes me feel like they want to ask me back,
Speaker 1: They want to ask you back. I took on another role.
Speaker 1: You did. Congratulation, Thank you so much. This is a
Speaker 1: different character. What is it? Um? She is a genius
Speaker 1: at puzzles. Her name is Ruby Cubics and she has
Speaker 1: Consoli Cube with her pussy. Oh my god, that fucking bit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that fucking bit. She's the best. No,
Speaker 1: but she's actually so nice. She's not a bit, she's
Speaker 1: very nice. I just feel like I know you. You're
Speaker 1: like just getting out my fresh rason in jealousy. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, which is as a
Speaker 1: term of endearment. Um, Ruby Cubics can solve a puzzle. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she She runs Sparkle dot com. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we all love Sparkle. Why does James Bond need to
Speaker 1: go to Sporkle headquarters just because like there's there's a
Speaker 1: there's a glitch on one of the puzzles that's like
Speaker 1: a name as many vice presidents as you can, and
Speaker 1: there's one name that Pop Step that is not an
Speaker 1: actual vice president trickery. It's Lifa. So James Bond has
Speaker 1: to wonder why his old flame Lefa is on the
Speaker 1: Sparkle dot com registrate are going to bring back actually
Speaker 1: in the same movie. We're in the same movie. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's so exciting. Fun, that's so fun. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope that our characters develop because I think that
Speaker 1: something I thought about my two characters that I played
Speaker 1: in James Bond, my two Bond Girls, is they just
Speaker 1: weren't developed enough. So I'd love to see, you know,
Speaker 1: some different kind of writers, and I'd love to see
Speaker 1: Phoebe waller Bridge right my character. I want Ryan Johnson
Speaker 1: to come right mind, okay, because you know he's he
Speaker 1: wrote a wonderful rules for both Daniel Craik and Anna
Speaker 1: to armis after their bodies. Yes, I think that we
Speaker 1: can get them together and see what they do. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not our job, but it is our job to
Speaker 1: demand um our characters be more developed. So anyway, that
Speaker 1: was for Bond Girls. Congratulations Bond Girls. You made. It's
Speaker 1: in a way, it's congratulations to us, Um twenty two.
Speaker 1: This really means a ton to you. Um. Kate Bush,
Speaker 1: the queen of being a young white girl musical genius.
Speaker 1: I thought it was very important to Addison without Kate Bush.
Speaker 1: Kate Bush made it acceptable for a seventeen year old
Speaker 1: girl to be a musical genius. And before that there
Speaker 1: were none. There were none before that, it was only
Speaker 1: Mozart representing for them exactly. So you had Kate Bush,
Speaker 1: then you had. If you didn't have Kate Bush, you know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have had your Fiona Apples, your Lords, your
Speaker 1: Billie eilish is he would not have Seventeen is that
Speaker 1: magic number for these girls to be like okay, now
Speaker 1: you're ready. I mean I want to I want to
Speaker 1: see someone really you know Taylor absolutely Taylor fifteen. Wow.
Speaker 1: When she received public not like acclaim I want Taylor,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know what it's gonna say.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't wait for the day when
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old girl comes forward and you know,
Speaker 1: breaks the mold and says it's okay to be a
Speaker 1: fifteen year old young white girl teen musical genius, But
Speaker 1: Taylor already did that. She kind of already broke that open.
Speaker 1: So I guess now we're just gonna come out here
Speaker 1: and busted open. Although who did do that and everyone
Speaker 1: kind of forgets is Miss Jojo herself. Joanna Levesque should
Speaker 1: be on the list, and she's not unless she did
Speaker 1: not make the list. But she really should be on
Speaker 1: the should be unless she did not actually make the list.
Speaker 1: But Jojo, Oh my god, do you want to know
Speaker 1: something crazy funcked up? I might have talked about this before,
Speaker 1: but when when Leave Get Out came out, I thought,
Speaker 1: because I was the same ages Jojo, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well she's talented and famous, so I guess I guess
Speaker 1: I have no shot at fame. I understand that, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It's like, oh, there's only
Speaker 1: so many spots left for for people our age to
Speaker 1: be famous, right exactly. We did not recall at the
Speaker 1: time the being told that we would A UM, I
Speaker 1: totally understand that, I think. So I'm just I just
Speaker 1: want to own up to the fact that when Jojo
Speaker 1: first broke out into scene, I were jealous. My first
Speaker 1: emotion was jealous. I think the first thing I thought
Speaker 1: was empowered because I was like, oh, a thirteen year
Speaker 1: old can become famous, it can happen for me. And
Speaker 1: so I thought, okay, well, then within the next year
Speaker 1: or so, I'm gonna be giving you everything JoJo's giving you.
Speaker 1: That's that's true, that's fair. I felt empowered. I chose
Speaker 1: to see one of my peers when they were succeeding.
Speaker 1: I chose to feel empowered. And you need to go
Speaker 1: to therapy about this. The way that you have treated Jojo,
Speaker 1: and you know now understanding the way that your feelings
Speaker 1: about her started totally and I totally get the way
Speaker 1: you treat her. Now, what do you mean because you
Speaker 1: just put it on the list, You didn't put her
Speaker 1: on the list? Can I say something about Jojo? Though?
Speaker 1: This isn't me canceling Jojo? I best not miss Joe
Speaker 1: normalized going through your significant other's phone. So what that's
Speaker 1: an invasion of privacy? So it's I don't first of all,
Speaker 1: is that a felony. It might be some states some states. Well,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you have to do what
Speaker 1: you need to do when you feel your partner is trifling.
Speaker 1: I feel this way, Okay, I would I would you?
Speaker 1: I just want to I feel this way. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, this is a thing that has not
Speaker 1: escaped my mind. And it's a Matt Rodgers original. Of course,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers can turn a damn phrase like no one,
Speaker 1: no one else. We were watching something the other night,
Speaker 1: Disney fairy Tale Wedding, but for some reason like Joey Forte,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, this this couple was in Greece, and
Speaker 1: then oh yes, and then I I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what if Matt Rodgers were Joey for Tone's age
Speaker 1: and the circle two three four, whenever Big Back Creek
Speaker 1: wedit came out, he would have played the Joey for Tone.
Speaker 1: I should have played that part. And so Matt Rodgers
Speaker 1: rises up from his seat and goes, I should have
Speaker 1: played that role. I I and the emphasis on the eye,
Speaker 1: the second eye powerful, I feel really and that character
Speaker 1: was gay, right? I don't think so. I think Joey
Speaker 1: for Tone comes out and what I'm telling you he
Speaker 1: is he is. Joey for Tone is gay in my
Speaker 1: Big fack Creek wedding. What are you doing, Hans, I'm
Speaker 1: literally I'm looking at the screen trying to get someone
Speaker 1: to help you, Hans. Look it up. Hans, you have
Speaker 1: to look this up. Please please, and let us know
Speaker 1: if if Joey for Tone was gay in My Big
Speaker 1: Fat Reek, we no, we would have. We would have
Speaker 1: we would have remembered it, because then we would have
Speaker 1: thought about Lance and we've been like, oh, Joey for
Speaker 1: Tone came out before Lance bast did. Like, no, we
Speaker 1: would have anyway. This is the end of number twenty two,
Speaker 1: which is Kate Bush, the Queen of being a young
Speaker 1: white girl. Hold on, Hans, we're getting an answer from Hans.
Speaker 1: My big free Gay and the second one, Angelo, the
Speaker 1: comical cousin played by Joey for Tone, comes out as
Speaker 1: gay to his family and introduces them to his partner. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you, Hans, Thank you, Hans. I really quick before
Speaker 1: we move on. Yeah, talk about I know it was
Speaker 1: important to you to talk about Kate Bush. Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we just love Kate Bush. I mean Hounds of Love,
Speaker 1: one of the best albums of all time, Running up
Speaker 1: that Hill, one of the best songs of all time. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the beginning of Quarantine, I was I was
Speaker 1: getting very very sad, like we all were. And then
Speaker 1: one of the soothing comforting watches that I had was
Speaker 1: a YouTube documentary or I should say a documentary on YouTube,
Speaker 1: a bootleg of a documentary on YouTube about Kate Bush
Speaker 1: Beautiful beautiful watch. I want to say, unrelated that the
Speaker 1: I the emphasis on Matt has such a mastery of
Speaker 1: phonetics in the English language and really leveraging them. And
Speaker 1: I don't know my way, but I do know my
Speaker 1: heart and the heart comes your heart through phonics. Yes,
Speaker 1: Matt has. Really I have a theory now in comedy
Speaker 1: that Matt helped me excavate, which is the words that
Speaker 1: that and now I that has such comic power, comedic power.
Speaker 1: Um the blank that that has UM going to have
Speaker 1: to blank on that one? Why did you do that
Speaker 1: to me? Um? The word that is so powerful? Because
Speaker 1: it just because your brain is trying to fill the
Speaker 1: blanks with an infinite amount of unknowns with that, You're like,
Speaker 1: what is what? That could be anything? It literally could
Speaker 1: be anything. It could be a noun or, it could
Speaker 1: be sort of any old thing. It provides just amount
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really a transaction between you, the reader
Speaker 1: of that as a word, and UM, the person saying that.
Speaker 1: Because it's they're starting a dialogue. They're saying the word that,
Speaker 1: and it's up to you to fill in the blanks
Speaker 1: of what that is. Well, whenever you say the word
Speaker 1: that in a sentence, or if you're trying to get
Speaker 1: something across and you use the word that, what you
Speaker 1: are referring to is the comedic thing you are thinking about.
Speaker 1: So you are referencing what is in your mind's eye
Speaker 1: without explicitly verbalizing the comedic object or subjective or subject.
Speaker 1: Even and our book is coming out, I can't forget
Speaker 1: that one. Can't forget that one. Um, we really need
Speaker 1: to do a book. We should do a book the
Speaker 1: rules of culture. And we've been saying this for years,
Speaker 1: but now will you be allowed to do a book? Yes? Um,
Speaker 1: it just has to be the right thing, rules of culture.
Speaker 1: There's something you don't want to do that it just
Speaker 1: feels first thoughts, it's not our book book, it's just fun.
Speaker 1: There's another way to sort of, you know, long form,
Speaker 1: sort of meditate on culture in a way that only
Speaker 1: you and I can. I mean, this guy's this is
Speaker 1: such a masturbation right now. No, I think it would
Speaker 1: be easy to put together just the one rules of culture.
Speaker 1: We go through pick the ones we liked there dumb,
Speaker 1: how is it different from this, We're already doing it,
Speaker 1: but in audio form, we there's something that, there's something new,
Speaker 1: there's something new we can do to monetize, maximalize, maximalize, guys.
Speaker 1: That was number twenty two. That was number twenty k Bush,
Speaker 1: the Queen of being a young White girl, musical genius.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to number twenty one, number one, another
Speaker 1: musician when Gwen Stefani was Brunette and the cool video.
Speaker 1: This I mean music video is one of the best
Speaker 1: music videos that has been put out by a off
Speaker 1: star in the modern era. It was I think the
Speaker 1: third single, I want to say, What You're waiting For,
Speaker 1: Holli Back, No, No, Holliback Girl, which Rich first it
Speaker 1: was the fourth single, then Rich Go, Halliback Girl, and
Speaker 1: um what You're waiting For and not in not order,
Speaker 1: but those are the first three. It was what You're
Speaker 1: waiting For, Rich Girl. Holliback Girl, I believe was the
Speaker 1: third single and it was the biggest song on the album.
Speaker 1: And then she really is cool because often what you'll
Speaker 1: do is once you have a talk about the marketing,
Speaker 1: once you have so the way it used to go anyway,
Speaker 1: and it sometimes goes like this is the girls would
Speaker 1: release a huge first single that they were confident with,
Speaker 1: like blow the radio the funk up. So, for example,
Speaker 1: let's say for this while Breakaway was the first single
Speaker 1: off of Breakaway, the album by Kelly Clarkson, that was
Speaker 1: really more of a promotional single for Princess Diary, So
Speaker 1: I don't really count it as the first single from
Speaker 1: Breakaway despite that being the title of the album. I
Speaker 1: think the first single, and this is not the best
Speaker 1: one to one is since You've Been Gone or Breakaway
Speaker 1: that we can relate it to L A m B.
Speaker 1: What You're waiting for was the song they felt was
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest radio hit. What happens is
Speaker 1: after you have that big radio hit is you hit
Speaker 1: them again with like the same flavor of song to
Speaker 1: show what the album is doing, that you are part
Speaker 1: of the pop conversation. That is these types of up tempo,
Speaker 1: hooky songs. So behind these days alives for Kelly rich
Speaker 1: girl no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no, for these hooky songs
Speaker 1: that are sort of still upbeat and fun. But what
Speaker 1: happened here with like sort of Kelly and Gwen. It's
Speaker 1: a little bit different. After the big song comes out,
Speaker 1: you want to pull back. You have the free reign
Speaker 1: to do whatever you want. And that's why when you
Speaker 1: hear your because of Us, you're thinking of us after ry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about hot and Cold and I kissed the
Speaker 1: girl came thinking of you. You take your big ballad
Speaker 1: swing after you've had a couple of hit songs and
Speaker 1: cool swung hard and and I think it was a
Speaker 1: home run for me, like quality wise, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was a huge hit. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of her best songs. I think it's absolutely one of
Speaker 1: her best songs. I love that it's about something specific,
Speaker 1: and the video is stunning, and the video is evocative,
Speaker 1: and I think the biggest visual pull I have from
Speaker 1: she's so iconically blonde that like to flashback in time
Speaker 1: and she's brunette. It really does like take you somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I mean it, I think, like for just this stupid
Speaker 1: simple thing of like and in the past, she's brunette,
Speaker 1: and that shows the growth art direction. But it does
Speaker 1: read and it does work, and she does perform like
Speaker 1: her youth and her brunette hair well, and she looks
Speaker 1: good as a brunette. And she looks younger as a brunette,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And that's not to say that she
Speaker 1: doesn't look young. She has not remained looking young. She
Speaker 1: looks more distinguished and professional. She's like we know in
Speaker 1: the modern day of the video, because the video is
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend from way back. Her first love comes
Speaker 1: to see her in her mansion and her gwen ste
Speaker 1: funny mansion and like italy um with his new girlfriend,
Speaker 1: who's of course a brunette. Of course a brunette. So
Speaker 1: they sit down and they're talking, and as they're kind
Speaker 1: of having a cup of coffee and talking and exchanging words, ideas, thoughts, memories,
Speaker 1: et cetera, they flashed back to their old days. As
Speaker 1: the song Cool plays and the lyrics go, after all
Speaker 1: that we've been through, I know we're cool. And it
Speaker 1: also hearkens back to the other item on our list,
Speaker 1: describing things as cool. Describing things as cool, that's the
Speaker 1: conversation that we're having culturally in this list. Her on
Speaker 1: the bed just kind of rolling the iconic and and
Speaker 1: my favorite part of this song is towards the end,
Speaker 1: it's it's the song is sort of like has resolved.
Speaker 1: It's sort of the Dave Numa of the song and
Speaker 1: she and she just does the little melodic flourish. I
Speaker 1: will call it. It's so genius a Nuca. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so cool. She's so good. She's actually really really
Speaker 1: good vocalist, and she's incredibly singular. Of course. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: she's not belting on the song. It's a ballad, but
Speaker 1: she's not like she's like, it's restrained, it's controlled. It's
Speaker 1: so good you never hear it covered because everyone's like
Speaker 1: it was done right the first time. Yeah, and also
Speaker 1: like it feels like it was so specifically written by
Speaker 1: her for her that and produced for her that it's
Speaker 1: like it's not a range song at all. And I
Speaker 1: think honestly, if you heard other people trying to sing it,
Speaker 1: they would sound like stupid or because it's her song
Speaker 1: and her moment and that video. I love a music
Speaker 1: video that takes us on an emotional journey. All of
Speaker 1: these ballads I'm referring to have amazing music videos, and
Speaker 1: thinking of You video is wonderful, starring Matt Dallas. The
Speaker 1: Because of You video was directed by Vadim Proldman who
Speaker 1: directed House of Sandon fog Okay and was in that
Speaker 1: And Kelly Clarkson wrote the treatment and that's incredible and
Speaker 1: all these songs music videos and Cool is the best
Speaker 1: fourth single ballad video that era from that era. And
Speaker 1: it was a moment and the visuals are amazing, the
Speaker 1: bridge when the two of them are looking at each other.
Speaker 1: The editing in the video was incredible. Gwenne Gwenneth. Gwen's
Speaker 1: acting in the video is amazing. At the end of
Speaker 1: the second verse, girl Girl. Maybe this is not worth saying, um,
Speaker 1: but I feel like the reason why it's not covered,
Speaker 1: This is such a great observation that you don't hear
Speaker 1: it covered. The reason it's not covered because is because
Speaker 1: Cool melodically, lyrically, production wise, perfect match, perfect intersection. You
Speaker 1: can't really innovate on it. And like, let's do like
Speaker 1: a let's do like a pair down orchestral version of Cool.
Speaker 1: Let's do like a like a bluesy what it's like. No,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's perfect as it is. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to funk with it. I think it did not get
Speaker 1: the critical attention that it deserved at the time. I
Speaker 1: think it's one of those songs, and let's listen to
Speaker 1: it now, because it holds up. I believe it would
Speaker 1: be I believe it would do well for her even today,
Speaker 1: like if she put it on an album today, and
Speaker 1: it would do very well, honest with you, Like I
Speaker 1: know L A. M B Is not on the list,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the songs on l AM except
Speaker 1: her obvious Missus could work now. That album was like
Speaker 1: forward thinking and progressive musically and lyrically in a way
Speaker 1: that I think we're not really understanding as an Asian person.
Speaker 1: I have such complicated feelings about but you love that
Speaker 1: at the time. I loved it at the time. Uh
Speaker 1: my most listened to album through high school, especially freshman year,
Speaker 1: thank You What You're Waiting For? The I mean, if
Speaker 1: you think about that, like think about that song. That
Speaker 1: song is her having a conversation with her, like having
Speaker 1: an inner battle where she has this savageur let's say,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like invoke a specific person too much,
Speaker 1: but it's her, like the voice in her head battling
Speaker 1: with like her trying to like tell herself that she
Speaker 1: can go solo, Like isn't that crazy? Yeah? And that's
Speaker 1: to be the first single. It's so interesting and also
Speaker 1: like the writing on that album is very specific and
Speaker 1: it really feels like a personal journey. Also, how many
Speaker 1: times have we seen Alice in Wonderland referenced as a
Speaker 1: lyrical concept and as a visual concept. Since that not
Speaker 1: to say she's the first that did it, but the
Speaker 1: first I can remember. Like it's such an obvious match,
Speaker 1: like hot music and like the whole fame thing with
Speaker 1: the Alison Wonderland of it all, so it should feel
Speaker 1: on the nose, but that felt really specific. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was the TikTok of it all. Yeah, but that song
Speaker 1: was really good and most of her album is really good.
Speaker 1: The song of the real thing um bubble Electric Electric
Speaker 1: is the production of bubble Papa Electric. If you can
Speaker 1: get a good pair of headphones on and blast bubble
Speaker 1: pop electric like like just it's like it's car it's
Speaker 1: carbonated like it like it goes between. It's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was unreal and that actually that lost the pop
Speaker 1: vocal Grammy album Grammy to you know what we take
Speaker 1: away and we agree, we agree, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The vocal Kelly has better vocals, right, if you're but
Speaker 1: it's the award is for Pop Vocal Album, so and
Speaker 1: when you say better vocals, it's like, yes, Kelly is
Speaker 1: a quote unquote better singer on paper. However, Kelly won
Speaker 1: the Pop Female Vocal Grammy for Since You've Been Gone,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like she had a Grammy that year. Therefore,
Speaker 1: like as an album, maybe L A MB just because
Speaker 1: Breakaway I don't think holds up as much in retrospect.
Speaker 1: I think it's very pop rock of the moment, whereas
Speaker 1: L A m B. You can listen to it now
Speaker 1: and be like, this was like a dance pop electric
Speaker 1: album with interesting concepts. She's doing so much. She's doing
Speaker 1: a million different like chameleonic things like pre Gaga. Like
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, she can like do like Madonna.
Speaker 1: Material Girl asked like eighties Madonna, and she can do
Speaker 1: like you know, no doubt Scott, she could. She could
Speaker 1: do it all and like and she could like do
Speaker 1: like a pop hook that fits nicely with like a
Speaker 1: hip hop bridge or whatever, and like just even like
Speaker 1: Bubbapapa electric, just like being like come on, Johnny, when
Speaker 1: you get in getting over here, it's like what are you? Like?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Like You're doing so many things
Speaker 1: and I think they somehow all work together, and that's
Speaker 1: really what pop should be, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like she that Phone was a really fun album, and
Speaker 1: like we're talking about with cool like didn't miss You
Speaker 1: with the emotional stuff too, because this this song is
Speaker 1: very specifically about her breakup with the guy from No Doubt,
Speaker 1: so that was like her first love and how they
Speaker 1: moved on, and it's it's if you've ever been in
Speaker 1: a relationship and it's ended and you can look back
Speaker 1: on it, really the way that you can have a
Speaker 1: difficult relationship with anyone in years later, how you realize
Speaker 1: it's just a sort of uh moment on the long
Speaker 1: road that is your many memories together. I love It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you included this and that we're having
Speaker 1: such an in depth conversation, but I really am. And Okay,
Speaker 1: let me shout out a couple more songs of that album,
Speaker 1: um Uh, Crash, Crash that Baby Do Meet Wait and
Speaker 1: Crash into Me Real Hard and the last the last
Speaker 1: track on A Long Way to Go, like a song
Speaker 1: about a long way to go. It's a song about
Speaker 1: like race relations a song about race relations. So with that,
Speaker 1: tell me quickly talk about the Harajuko girls of it all,
Speaker 1: because yes, she would say that it was that it
Speaker 1: was an homage, it was an appreciation, but it really
Speaker 1: did seem to overtake a lot of visuals on that album.
Speaker 1: And so I'm wondering, what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 1: Have you thought about it? I thought about it. I don't.
Speaker 1: I haven't really, I will say, I haven't really come
Speaker 1: to like a conclusive and you won't speak for everyone,
Speaker 1: hear yourself, So let's just listen say that. Um in
Speaker 1: the way that I feel like, like the worst sin
Speaker 1: you can commit when you are stepping in an appropriative,
Speaker 1: risky direction is to dehumanize the subject, the cultural subject.
Speaker 1: Do I feel like the Herojuical girls were dehumanized a
Speaker 1: little bit because they were just kind of props props
Speaker 1: and following her around the red carpets, and then they
Speaker 1: were even in the Sweet Escape era, So I can't tell,
Speaker 1: I really can't tell, but that is weighed against her,
Speaker 1: like I think being very visually inspired in a way
Speaker 1: that like, honestly like kind of trivializes Asian bodies in
Speaker 1: a way that a lot of white people and not
Speaker 1: even just this is not like an actual political term,
Speaker 1: but like non Asian people to humanize Asian people in
Speaker 1: a way that's like, oh, like whatever, it's like, I
Speaker 1: mean the way that we casually sort of talk about
Speaker 1: Asian people and like in human terms. I feel like
Speaker 1: that like is something that she probably couldn't compartmentalized and
Speaker 1: partition out against her actually genuinely going probably visiting Tokyo
Speaker 1: and like going to shian Juka, going to Harajuka, going
Speaker 1: to forever being like, oh, I love this and wanting
Speaker 1: to incorporate it in her aesthetic. I think that it's
Speaker 1: I I agree, and it's interesting how you can get
Speaker 1: so much right in the pursuit of art and expression,
Speaker 1: and then on this, while getting so much right, you
Speaker 1: can still get some things. And I think it's actually
Speaker 1: a really interesting example of um looking back, and that
Speaker 1: was the white privilege is assuming this can be something
Speaker 1: that I try on like a costume, like I'm trying
Speaker 1: on the sort of fifties thing in the bubble pop
Speaker 1: electric thing, Like she genuinely felt it was a viable
Speaker 1: aesthetic choice for her, which just speaks to the sort
Speaker 1: of blindness to privilege which would never be made now.
Speaker 1: So it's I think that the cultural conversation around L A.
Speaker 1: M B is kind of We're a little nervous to
Speaker 1: talk about it because of that, But let's not be
Speaker 1: nervous to talk about it. Let's talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that like that is something would not be done now
Speaker 1: because we know better and we're we're actually our eyes
Speaker 1: are open to how this subjugates people. But also, you
Speaker 1: know that album is great. This and this is the
Speaker 1: other piece of it. I there's a there's there's there's
Speaker 1: one coin that's about sort of assimilation that um, I
Speaker 1: think I related to when this album came out, which
Speaker 1: was Wow. Gwen Stefani is saying how cool Asian culture
Speaker 1: is that I feel cool, But that is sort of
Speaker 1: this limit this assimilation is thought of like a white
Speaker 1: person has to be like it has to say I'm
Speaker 1: cool to be cool, has to say I'm cool to
Speaker 1: be cool. Um. But then the flip side of that is,
Speaker 1: I mean, any assimilationist thought is that one racial group
Speaker 1: can be developed to be more like another. And I
Speaker 1: feel like on the other side of that, like Gwen
Speaker 1: Stefani is sort of like in a way, like what
Speaker 1: I was telling myself back then was like, no, but
Speaker 1: she wants this, like she wants this esthetic and she's
Speaker 1: actually saying that we don't need to be developed and
Speaker 1: that the way that like we as East Asian people
Speaker 1: are is like find the way. It is so like,
Speaker 1: there's it's so complicated. I mean her lyrics are literally
Speaker 1: you got the wicked style. I love the way that
Speaker 1: you are. I am your biggest fan. So but and
Speaker 1: it's it's so it's like is she saying that or
Speaker 1: is or is she acting the role of we don't
Speaker 1: have to listen again? But I don't think it's as
Speaker 1: simple as canceled that album, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Which is which is I think a good example of
Speaker 1: a lot of the way things get talked about now. Yes,
Speaker 1: that you can hold opposing thoughts currently and appreciative work
Speaker 1: while also critiquing it for its many faults and we
Speaker 1: we that was number when was Brunette and the cool video.
Speaker 1: So that was appropriation of her Brunette's famously a Blonde.
Speaker 1: Um okay, so number twenty talk about music videos Kellie
Speaker 1: Preston and she the one and only time to talk
Speaker 1: about this. This is huge for you. She was amazing
Speaker 1: and this is exactly what I'm talking about. Only time
Speaker 1: she was amazing, the only time been a star since
Speaker 1: Jerry McGuire. Well, I don't even I know. I'm not
Speaker 1: even giving her that because you can't watch this video
Speaker 1: and tell me she is not everything and more. And
Speaker 1: this is exactly the same kind of thing, which is
Speaker 1: music videos to ballads that elevate the moment. Yes, this
Speaker 1: was such a bop on Songs about Jane, A great
Speaker 1: album when Maroon five first came out, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with this album. Talk about this love
Speaker 1: Harder to Breathe, She will be loved, Sunday Morning, everything
Speaker 1: on that album The Sun. There's so much good shit
Speaker 1: on their back. When they were like rock, like light rock,
Speaker 1: like alternative pop, like whatever they were rock. They were
Speaker 1: rocked back when Maroon five was rock, especially Culture number thirty,
Speaker 1: back when five was rock rock. Why um about Kelly Preston.
Speaker 1: She was performing her ass off in this She knew
Speaker 1: ex athlete the assignment which is to be capital T
Speaker 1: capital M that milf. Yes, and she was that and
Speaker 1: honestly serving. At the end during the montage when she
Speaker 1: realizes that Adam Levin has chosen her daughter over her
Speaker 1: when she slaps her husband's newspaper and runs towards the fountain,
Speaker 1: and it's like like Harry rich White worming acting. And
Speaker 1: then when Adam Levin runs to her, You're like, you
Speaker 1: bet your ass. And then that close of the video,
Speaker 1: which there's all three of their eyes, Kelly Press, Kelly
Speaker 1: Preston the capital T capital M that milf even though
Speaker 1: the M is already capitalized, no matter what is milf?
Speaker 1: And it's an acronym. Bitch oh ship here, Well, we'd
Speaker 1: have to ask miss Webster, Miss John Chow, who popularized
Speaker 1: the term in American pie. John cho did not make
Speaker 1: the list. John Show did not make the listspite being
Speaker 1: the perennial Asian hunk. Yeah, he's such a hunk. And
Speaker 1: I let me tell you, did you did you? Did
Speaker 1: you see searching? It's too scary for me. There's actually
Speaker 1: it's not that scary. The actual disturbing moment is when
Speaker 1: he thinks that his daughter has been fucking his brother.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a fake out. There's a moment where
Speaker 1: you're like where he thinks that his daughter ran away
Speaker 1: to go fuck her uncle. And and I remember, I
Speaker 1: think I saw it with Joel or someone, but turning
Speaker 1: to Joe and I was like, this is fucked up
Speaker 1: beyond anything. And then it's a fake, getting like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank god, did you think the movie was really going there? Yes?
Speaker 1: And I was like this I'm not comfortable with and
Speaker 1: if this isn't if there's an incest plot line here,
Speaker 1: like I don't regardless of any plot terms that did
Speaker 1: not make although I'm just missing the list. Was Deborah
Speaker 1: Messing in Searching, Yes, playing a cop, playing a cop
Speaker 1: who there's a spoiler, but let's just say all cops
Speaker 1: are bad, bad, bad, bad, best are best, especially miss
Speaker 1: Debora Messing in Searching. Let's keep going. We don't we
Speaker 1: don't really agree with her, Let's keep going. Number nine,
Speaker 1: This is huge, iconic Nicki minajes bossed up monologue. Can
Speaker 1: you kind of just inform the readers about what this
Speaker 1: is because this is educational film. Crew had been following
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj to film a documentary that was going to
Speaker 1: be on MTV, I believe um during the Pink Friday era.
Speaker 1: So right as she was sort of becoming Nicki Minaj
Speaker 1: post mixtapes, post monster Verse, right on the brink of
Speaker 1: a list she had arrived at a photo shoot the
Speaker 1: crafty spread. It was not to her liking and included
Speaker 1: such things as pickle juice, which sliced pickles on a board,
Speaker 1: nice pickles on a board, but she specifically references like
Speaker 1: the brine like pickle juice. Well, she goes on to say,
Speaker 1: if I had accepted the pickle juice, I'd drinking pickle
Speaker 1: juice right now. So basically what happens here is she's
Speaker 1: talking about how she recently has stormed off of a
Speaker 1: photo shoot and I guess it made some headlines. And
Speaker 1: she said, I stormed off a photo shoot because when
Speaker 1: I got there, it was cheap and it was like
Speaker 1: sliced pickles on a board and nothing. And I can't
Speaker 1: imagine and ever being treated like that if I were
Speaker 1: a man, Because she said she knows from watching Little Wayne,
Speaker 1: because she came up under Wayne. What she says, she says,
Speaker 1: I came up under Wayne, and Wayne has his way
Speaker 1: of doing things, and he says like, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: the things the way I want them, and while I'm asking,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow this weed in your face all day,
Speaker 1: and it's acceptable because he's a man. Meanwhile, a woman
Speaker 1: is expected to show up wherever they're asked to be,
Speaker 1: deal with the situation, and be grateful at all times.
Speaker 1: So what she's really doing in the year of Our Lord,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess, is saying the sexism in the industry
Speaker 1: and all over the place is crazy and the double
Speaker 1: standard is wild. And when a woman speaks out of turn,
Speaker 1: she is What's the word she uses is assertive. She's
Speaker 1: a bit. When a man is assertive, he's a boss,
Speaker 1: he's bossed up. And I'm not get a connotation behind
Speaker 1: being about step a bit. And then she says Donald
Speaker 1: Trump can say you're fired, why can't Martha still run
Speaker 1: her company and be the same way. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is a one the best, but I
Speaker 1: will say she was a seer and that she was
Speaker 1: knowing that Donald Trump was doing whatever the fuck she's
Speaker 1: not wrong and everyone bowed down. And mind you, this
Speaker 1: is five years before we heard he was gonna run
Speaker 1: for President States of America. But she is so energetic
Speaker 1: and correct and get clear about her expression. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: should all google it because our YouTube it or whatever,
Speaker 1: because it's a Really she just is so great. That's
Speaker 1: her mission statement right there, she's like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be bossed up and it's not going to be a
Speaker 1: gender connotation. Like I had I accepted the pickle juice,
Speaker 1: would be drinking pickle juice right now. Huge, And I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think what she's saying is should rather
Speaker 1: not drink pickle juice. Um, you know it's a little tough.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about her now. It's a little I don't
Speaker 1: really listen to Queen Radio. Mean that's more her sort
Speaker 1: of stream of consciousness, like really kind of be a
Speaker 1: little just just just just just just like talking like
Speaker 1: expressing nikki brain onto an audio format and you're just
Speaker 1: kind of it's it's maximalist. I wish she didn't feel
Speaker 1: she had to do that. I feel like she I
Speaker 1: will always follow her, I will always live. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I I don't judge or I'm not a detractor to Nikki.
Speaker 1: I'm a Nikki barbed for life. I'm a barbed for life.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Nikki is finding her
Speaker 1: way back. I hope so. I hope so, and I
Speaker 1: hope that like this weird, that this weird thing people
Speaker 1: have with like oh she's done now, because there's other
Speaker 1: younger people that are in her, like specific Lane quote unquote,
Speaker 1: that are going to take a spot away from her
Speaker 1: because they're all so different. This is such a boring
Speaker 1: conversation almost to have because obviously they are. And if
Speaker 1: you're still out there being like, well, Megan the Stallion
Speaker 1: and Cardi b are coming from nicky spot, you are
Speaker 1: so dumb because we should have them all. But and
Speaker 1: and Nikki, I think it is doing a better job now.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cardi is a different story, but I mean
Speaker 1: she as she's collapped with Megan, she's clapped with joe
Speaker 1: Ja kat And and Jojo Doja's Cat's a whole different story.
Speaker 1: Definitely didn't make the list. Dojo No Dojo was not
Speaker 1: on the list, unfortunately, and weirdly enough, Cardi's not on
Speaker 1: the list. And that's it's no, it's not against Carton.
Speaker 1: And we're not saying by saying we're Barbs that we're
Speaker 1: not Cardi B stands. We love Cardi and very important.
Speaker 1: But but the Boss Step moment is a moment. The
Speaker 1: Boss Step moment is a moment, and we can't forget.
Speaker 1: And another moment, which is number eighteen on our list
Speaker 1: is Barber Cook Kennedy Center Honors performance. She did not perform, obviously,
Speaker 1: she was on the balcony. No, she was being honored
Speaker 1: by the women of Broadway, which include Laura Osness, Ms.
Speaker 1: Kelly O'Hara, Mrs Rebecca Luker, Miss Sutton Foster, The Close,
Speaker 1: Miss McDonald, Miss Patty Lapone, all the ladies got together
Speaker 1: to honor Barbara Cook, who was really one of the
Speaker 1: muses of Sondheim, for her Kennedy Center Honors achievements. And
Speaker 1: it was an absolute slagh from top to bot. Want
Speaker 1: a career and what a way to get honored by
Speaker 1: all the women, the girls girls, and they came out
Speaker 1: one by one and sang their songs. Glenn Close sang
Speaker 1: Losing My Mind from Folly's and it was just she,
Speaker 1: Glenn Close actually slayed. It was unbelievable. Then Sutton came
Speaker 1: out with her. Everybody says, don't the pelvic floor of
Speaker 1: do like they're literally her sound shooting through her top
Speaker 1: of her head. Unbelievable. Patty Lapone, come rad or come shine.
Speaker 1: You've never experienced a performer like. You've never experienced a
Speaker 1: performing like I spent the entire time Barbara Cook just
Speaker 1: sitting up on that damn balcony next to Meryl Street
Speaker 1: living Meryl's living. But Barbara, from what I remember, Barbara
Speaker 1: is just chill as hell, just being like, Okay, she's
Speaker 1: soaking that. She's just soaking it in. But she's like
Speaker 1: not too effective. She's like, I mean, I did that.
Speaker 1: She's like I did that. My favorite thing is to
Speaker 1: watch people watch their Kennedy Sonor Honors happen. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it, and it's just so great. And Barbara Cook
Speaker 1: recently passed away, and she's she's just one of the greats,
Speaker 1: and you know she's one of the greats. When all
Speaker 1: of the greats show up, want to show up and
Speaker 1: never forget that. Aldre McDonald entered the performance with make
Speaker 1: your Garden Grow. It was unbelievablegeous all the ladies. That
Speaker 1: was a good year. That was Meryl, Barbara and I
Speaker 1: think yo yo maa, I believe yoyoma. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was good here. And I think there was someone
Speaker 1: else too, but I'm I'm I'm losing it, but there
Speaker 1: was someone else up there that was important. But yeah,
Speaker 1: back in the day when Kennedy Center Honors was the
Speaker 1: thing that we were looking forward to because the president
Speaker 1: would be there. Let's keep going, Sandra, Oh, it's unbearable,
Speaker 1: and you took a piece of me. Monologues and Grayson
Speaker 1: at me. She had many, but these two rise above.
Speaker 1: You pitch these out, actually, and I'm glad you didn't.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You chose these two monologues over her.
Speaker 1: How do you keep your edge, sir? Because I had
Speaker 1: it Season two finale Grazes anatomy, which we already covered.
Speaker 1: But unbearable is the single tier. I think you took
Speaker 1: a piece of me. It's also single tier. Unbearable is
Speaker 1: the monologue that she gives when she has to b
Speaker 1: is asking at the hospital, is asking for her sexual
Speaker 1: history because there's an STI situation at the hospital and
Speaker 1: she has to sort of admit that she's got a
Speaker 1: sexual history with burst by Um and she submits it
Speaker 1: and and they say, we understand this is hard for you,
Speaker 1: and she this is difficult for you, This is difficult
Speaker 1: for you, and then she kind of whipped around and
Speaker 1: serves this monologue about how it's not difficult. What's actually
Speaker 1: difficult is the reality of her situation, and she details
Speaker 1: what she's going through in a class Shonda overshare monologue.
Speaker 1: The other characters are probably like, literally, if this was
Speaker 1: real life, the other characters would be like, this is
Speaker 1: so inappropriate, it's so inappropriate for you to do what
Speaker 1: you're doing. But but what we get instead is that
Speaker 1: monologue where she essentially lays into them and says, it's
Speaker 1: not difficult, it's unbearable. I was his hand. No, I'm
Speaker 1: a ghost, and I do not wish him well. And
Speaker 1: I do not wish him well. That's how it ends.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, because he's gone at that, because
Speaker 1: he's gone, he's gone. He's also abandoned her, and she
Speaker 1: really talk about giving a dropped in fucking emotional despare monologue.
Speaker 1: The moment is she sheds the single tear classics Andrew,
Speaker 1: but then she wipes it away and go, excuse huge,
Speaker 1: And then we have to talk about the other one,
Speaker 1: which it was the unseen hand to his brilliance, excuse me.
Speaker 1: And then and then I think it's like a couple
Speaker 1: of seasons later and maybe the next season whatever he's
Speaker 1: in six season seven based really there is a scene
Speaker 1: where Sandra as Christina Yang is having sex with her
Speaker 1: new boyfriend Owen in the on call room and he
Speaker 1: tries to get her to ignore a page from that
Speaker 1: that's calling her to a surgery, cardiac surgery, which she
Speaker 1: was just getting back into because Owen brought Teddy and
Speaker 1: to be her mentor, and so Christina is sort of
Speaker 1: reanimated at the hospital. Owen tells her to stay so
Speaker 1: they can keep fucking, and then Sandra later on realizes
Speaker 1: that Owen was sort of holding her back basically, and
Speaker 1: basically she was the character that always put her passion first,
Speaker 1: on her passion with surgery, and that was what she
Speaker 1: lived for, that was her lifeblood. So um, she's had
Speaker 1: this complicated relationship with Preston Burke, and then Owen tries
Speaker 1: to get her to put him and them before pursuing
Speaker 1: her career, and so she's ornery with him for hours
Speaker 1: after that, and then later on they get back to
Speaker 1: their apartment and she says, you were trying to screw
Speaker 1: me into submission, and he was like, I was just
Speaker 1: trying to connect, and then she drops in and she
Speaker 1: tells him what's really on her mind, which is that
Speaker 1: the Burke situation, the Burke relationship, she feels she lost
Speaker 1: a part of herself because she gave so much to
Speaker 1: the relationship. And it's also the first time she says
Speaker 1: I love you too. She says, I love you. I
Speaker 1: love you more than I love you. When you asked
Speaker 1: me to ignore Teddy's page, you took a piece of
Speaker 1: me that could never happened. I did it was It's
Speaker 1: so good. And she's just saying, she's declaring, she's like,
Speaker 1: I love you, I'm off relationships to work, but I
Speaker 1: love me more and I love what I love more,
Speaker 1: and you will never take me away from my passion
Speaker 1: and what makes me me. And that is the growth,
Speaker 1: and that is the character of Christina Yang taking her moment,
Speaker 1: the fact that she was emmulet and remains Emmy less,
Speaker 1: and we love Jody Comber and we love Ms Claire Foy.
Speaker 1: So it's just tough. But the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is she should have an Emmy for playing Christina. It's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: even plaster. Why not I feel that that I I
Speaker 1: understand in seeing the Emmy losses that they've been for
Speaker 1: the last two years, I understand them. There's several years
Speaker 1: where like blythe Dan or why, which I'm like not understanding.
Speaker 1: I don't understand Katherine Heigl winning an Emmy over Sandro
Speaker 1: and I love Katherine. We love Kathy in that role.
Speaker 1: This was after season three, and I feel like even
Speaker 1: even Christina had a better storylining season three. Oh season
Speaker 1: three with throws things and so like. Basically, Katherine Hiel
Speaker 1: is notable on Grey's Anatomy for the end of season two,
Speaker 1: the Denny relationship, and most notably her performance in the finale.
Speaker 1: In the last few episodes, she was driven insane because
Speaker 1: she thought she was going to lose this patient that
Speaker 1: she fell in love with. She had, of course the
Speaker 1: iconic what about Me monologue, which was a little overwrought,
Speaker 1: but he got the audience to feel certain like Sandra
Speaker 1: would never go that month. Well, she certainly went pretty big,
Speaker 1: but it felt better. Um, I don't even think Sandra's
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody said date me. I was gonna bring
Speaker 1: up somebody to date me. But that's like for some
Speaker 1: reason funny and like I don't know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like fully intentional, like I think Katherine Heigl, if you'd
Speaker 1: ask her, like she fully lost. She was not in
Speaker 1: control when she goes I will never forgive you. I
Speaker 1: know for me love you. I don't know it worked
Speaker 1: for me, like I remember like, when I was watching it,
Speaker 1: it was really working for me, and my dad said,
Speaker 1: she's really overact. That's I agree with And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it was speaking to me, but anyway,
Speaker 1: she wins the Emmy first season three, when really they
Speaker 1: were giving it to her for that and for being
Speaker 1: a new movie star and not which is what they
Speaker 1: were doing. They were anointing her and Sandra meanwhile was
Speaker 1: sitting there quietly doing work that was Emmy caliber for
Speaker 1: a decade well after she needed to be. Sandra's kind
Speaker 1: of inspiring me now to not ever watch my own
Speaker 1: stuff again. She doesn't watch her own stuff. This did
Speaker 1: I told you this right when the first time I
Speaker 1: met her Golden Clothes, she talks to me about like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the lip sync was was so great,
Speaker 1: and she was like, um, you know, I had never
Speaker 1: even heard myself back in that scene until I saw
Speaker 1: you doing it. I told you this. I think, yeah
Speaker 1: now I remember, she and she like, yeah, she did
Speaker 1: say that. She was talking about how she and Shonda
Speaker 1: and the writers sort of like sparred of it because
Speaker 1: Sandra like wasn't She was like I don't think Christina
Speaker 1: would ever say this this way, and the writers were
Speaker 1: like no, and and then and then and then she
Speaker 1: was like and Shonda like God bless her, God lover,
Speaker 1: but Shanda like, it has to be word perfect when
Speaker 1: you're delivering her lines. And Sandra was like, that was
Speaker 1: one of the hardest days of my entire time at
Speaker 1: Grace for that like that monologue, because I had so
Speaker 1: many emotions around it, and and she was like I
Speaker 1: never watched I saw it. You do it again and
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, I was like, okay, now
Speaker 1: I like have it. I'm at peace with that day. Wow.
Speaker 1: She's like I like, She's like, if that if that
Speaker 1: monologue like meant like whatever this is, I don't mean
Speaker 1: for this to sound I'm not. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: mean to like self. No. I mean I think it's
Speaker 1: an amazing insight into the way actors. Yes, and it
Speaker 1: taught me a lot about whatever acting. But she was like,
Speaker 1: if it meant if it like popped that much basically
Speaker 1: like for you to do it and like for you
Speaker 1: to be inspired to do it, like the nut means
Speaker 1: that like I did my job. I mean, here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say she rarely ever, if ever missed a beat
Speaker 1: for me on that character is iconic. Like and I
Speaker 1: just want to say before we move on to the
Speaker 1: next one, I just and we we referenced before when
Speaker 1: we talked about Carrie Bradshaw monologue. Put some respect on
Speaker 1: Ellen Pompeo's name. Yes, because she has been doing that
Speaker 1: show for it's gonna be almost twenty years and perfect
Speaker 1: in the role and also did all these monologues the
Speaker 1: same way and carried so much of that show through
Speaker 1: thick and thin and always makes it look easy. Yes.
Speaker 1: What did not make the list, unfortunately, when I think
Speaker 1: is an honorable mention is Ellen Pompeio At the moment
Speaker 1: when Ellen Pompeo was on a panel with Gabrielle Roberts,
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing enough color. I'm not seeing that color.
Speaker 1: And I didn't see enough color when I walked in
Speaker 1: and Gabrielle Union and and Gina just looking at each
Speaker 1: other being like, oh okay, Ellen's going there, and thank
Speaker 1: god that is ally should in action. And also not
Speaker 1: for nothing but the fact that Gina was there being like, yes,
Speaker 1: good job. L Actually years later, moving on number sixteen,
Speaker 1: number sixteen, I mean who could forget, could forget It's
Speaker 1: Titanic fever. Fever. Titanic was a cultural moment to rival
Speaker 1: some of the biggest cultural moments we've ever been through.
Speaker 1: I mean this was all encompassing, from music to film,
Speaker 1: two TV specials constantly on about it, to the world
Speaker 1: of tabloid that created around Leo and Kate like unbelievable
Speaker 1: history and appreciation for history. Yes, and it also really
Speaker 1: I mean how many Titanic exhibits sprouted up. I mean
Speaker 1: I went to several of them, like I became obsessed
Speaker 1: with the Titanic obsessed. My first CD ever, I mean
Speaker 1: I say my first album was Spice World was Spice.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but um first for CD purchase my parents
Speaker 1: buying me the Titanic score. I mean, from the score
Speaker 1: to the visuals, to the overbloated romance to Kate Winslet
Speaker 1: turning around in that fucking hat and making her like
Speaker 1: not screen debut but arrive star moments, Leo being Leo,
Speaker 1: that like gorgeous blonde, Harry ad like oh my, Billy
Speaker 1: Zane flipping over the table, Billy Zane being too much,
Speaker 1: Kathy Bates slang her little one liners, miss thing uh,
Speaker 1: miss Fabrizio being hot and crushed by a pylon, and
Speaker 1: then also the scene with the mother and Rose. Wait, women,
Speaker 1: do you want to say me working because it seems stress?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm selfish. Why are you so selfish? I'm selfish?
Speaker 1: I mean a terribly written movie. Yes and no, like
Speaker 1: in terms of like it getting the broad strokes across
Speaker 1: it certainly did change anything about it? Like probably not
Speaker 1: he mean, did be do it? No? Um, but then
Speaker 1: they did fuck like right after Umm, oh god, I
Speaker 1: mean hate Winslet and Leo together, we have it down there,
Speaker 1: have it down there, I mean, just Titanic Fever. My
Speaker 1: heart will go on being the moment, being the moment
Speaker 1: and you know, the final shot of just the black
Speaker 1: and white photos, the final shot is of the boat
Speaker 1: under Underwell, honestly, you will still be emotionally affected by
Speaker 1: the film, That's true. It'll sneak on every now and
Speaker 1: then and you'll watch it and you'll be you will
Speaker 1: watch the whole thing. Oh, I mean, you know it's
Speaker 1: It was on v H one after Drag Race, for
Speaker 1: it was seven weeks in a row. It was was
Speaker 1: it on every week? It was on for some reason,
Speaker 1: like every week Season twelve of Drags. Honestly, it's probably
Speaker 1: because it's the only way they can get them to
Speaker 1: like keep watching after that. I can't. We're not going
Speaker 1: to strap in for four Okay, okay, girl, all right,
Speaker 1: let's Titanic peover was a fever, but it's not as
Speaker 1: big of a cultural moment as number. This is what
Speaker 1: I replaced Christina beat you with. Let me just say
Speaker 1: that up top, and I think I think it's a
Speaker 1: deserving spots, deserving substitution. Titanic not as impactful as AOC
Speaker 1: on a roof in college ALCS dancing is what gets
Speaker 1: her on the list. It's not just AOC is dancing.
Speaker 1: It's the backfiring from the right for being like, look
Speaker 1: at her being so whatever, I guess promiscuous. It truly
Speaker 1: did show that no matter what she did, we would
Speaker 1: all love her iro and we would she is our champion.
Speaker 1: She is our champion, and like, and then there was
Speaker 1: like a fun week of memes where like, you know,
Speaker 1: you do cut to the feeling overlaid on AOC dancing
Speaker 1: and you can do any song and have AOC just dancing,
Speaker 1: writhing around the wall on the roof, doing the little
Speaker 1: grape viney thing. She I don't know, it's not a
Speaker 1: grape vine, but she does a little dance move. Well,
Speaker 1: she's a fun person who seems like and I say
Speaker 1: this in the most like in a respectful, like positive way,
Speaker 1: she is so attractive and that when she is, yes,
Speaker 1: you can't help but look at her, like she has
Speaker 1: a star quality, she has a positive she carries the light,
Speaker 1: she carries the l And so when that, when that's happening,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people are going to be
Speaker 1: offended by that, and a lot of especially when it
Speaker 1: comes in a package that, um, they don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with. I think that, And I watched Knocked
Speaker 1: Down the House recently, and it's like there was no
Speaker 1: way that anyone that's like in a Trump universe would
Speaker 1: know how to deal with an incredibly smart, incredibly passionate
Speaker 1: on the right side of issues, charismatic young Latino woman
Speaker 1: who is speaking for a generation and beyond, and she
Speaker 1: really is the voice of a generation. She's talking about
Speaker 1: issues in terms of moral clarity, like in a way
Speaker 1: that we can all sort of get behind it because
Speaker 1: we're like, Okay, well, I guess this is the right thing,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like and like and it's not the
Speaker 1: right thing to like use religious purity as like a
Speaker 1: weapon against policy. It's like this so so you know,
Speaker 1: like a week ago back when the house uh beamed again,
Speaker 1: she's on something. Yeah, like she sort of like dismantled
Speaker 1: the idea that like religious pure as like this like
Speaker 1: moral compass is like is so fucked up and like
Speaker 1: not valid at all. And I'm probably misquoting and paraphrasing wrongly,
Speaker 1: but like she can speak on such a on such
Speaker 1: a clear level, like even like when she just got
Speaker 1: when she just won her primary a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and she was on Coldbart like
Speaker 1: the next day, and she just like inexperienced, you could
Speaker 1: technically say at the time, but she spoke so clearly
Speaker 1: about things, and everyone the audience is on board, and
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa. It's because she is not pretending to
Speaker 1: speak for or as anyone that she's not exactly And
Speaker 1: so when she's asked questions about what she wants done,
Speaker 1: despite quote unquote inexperience and quote unquote youth, that's not
Speaker 1: a part of the way she views the world or
Speaker 1: needs to view the world. Because she is speaking for
Speaker 1: what's right. Yes, she And there's an amazing scene in
Speaker 1: the beginning of Lockdown the House where she's talking about
Speaker 1: getting ready in terms of readying her appearance, and so
Speaker 1: it's incredible. And I really think that if you have
Speaker 1: a problem with AOC, it's something you have to deal
Speaker 1: with insult because she is is the future. I do
Speaker 1: believe that she will be a political voice that we
Speaker 1: look to for the next fifty years, for our lifetime.
Speaker 1: I think that she'll be relevant for the rest of
Speaker 1: our lifetime, depending on if she goes into the Senate,
Speaker 1: depending on if she continues in the House, depending on
Speaker 1: if she does eventually make a presidential run at some point. Regardless,
Speaker 1: she is going to be someone who is incredibly important.
Speaker 1: And I think that, um that's also going to make
Speaker 1: it pretty difficult for her, of course, and I but
Speaker 1: I think she's up to it right now. She's funneling
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts, like like we're looking to her,
Speaker 1: um um, just just just to get a sense of,
Speaker 1: like of how to how to think about it. She's
Speaker 1: the amount of pressure she must be under. Yes, and
Speaker 1: I get to see Knocked Down the House, but you
Speaker 1: and Studie talking about the last. One of the final
Speaker 1: moments is oh yeah, don't don't give it away. It's
Speaker 1: it's her dad's saying something to her. But when he
Speaker 1: passes away, don't to say that. It's an unbelievable moment
Speaker 1: that is really rewarding if you watch the movie and
Speaker 1: learn more about her story than I think probably a
Speaker 1: lot of people now. And I'll just say, I'll put
Speaker 1: this into the ether on the podcast. Would love to
Speaker 1: have her as a guest, would love to have her
Speaker 1: as a guest. They ask is out, The ask is out.
Speaker 1: Let's put the pressure on um. We love al Z
Speaker 1: and she is the moment. Her dancing on the roof
Speaker 1: in college is the moment. Let's move on. Speaking of dancing,
Speaker 1: Oh my God, number fourteen, when Catherine Dada Jones said,
Speaker 1: and in all that jazz, I mean the crest of
Speaker 1: that song, the peak, just the sort of passionate happy
Speaker 1: rage that is she's about to get arrested, and it's
Speaker 1: a cry. It's her last cry as a free woman.
Speaker 1: And let's not forget the lyric that precedes this. No
Speaker 1: what's white fod and all it's so I mean like
Speaker 1: talk about a knockout, like no question about it. Else
Speaker 1: could have done that? That's she deserves could have No
Speaker 1: one else could have done it as well as she did.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's anything more to say here.
Speaker 1: In a movie where Renee's l Werger is the lead
Speaker 1: actress and absolutely slaying, the image you leave with is
Speaker 1: still Katherine Dada Jones. And that's with that Renee performance
Speaker 1: in it, which is culture didn't make the list. I
Speaker 1: think I think Katherine's doing more work. I mean, like
Speaker 1: between that and South Octango and I can't do it alone.
Speaker 1: She's doing so much. It's just she's doing a lot.
Speaker 1: But if you and Joel and I recently have talked
Speaker 1: about this on another party, actually with Nathaniel Rogers's podcast,
Speaker 1: Renee is the flat out lead and has the most
Speaker 1: to do. The reason why Catherine's Dada Jones is so
Speaker 1: iconic is because she almost makes you think they're doing
Speaker 1: equal stuff, but they literally aren't. Katherine is on another
Speaker 1: I think she knew this is going to be the
Speaker 1: role that defined her legacy. Wow, and and and it end,
Speaker 1: and you're right, I would say, I mean, okay, so done.
Speaker 1: Um Now number thirteen another movie moment Beyonce and Ali
Speaker 1: Larder's fight and obsessed. Fight coreo achievement, Fight Core, your achievement.
Speaker 1: A chandelier gets dropped. I mean, one thing we have
Speaker 1: to say is a chandelier gets dropped. That's the end
Speaker 1: of the fight. The end of the fight is a
Speaker 1: chandelier dropped and crushes Ali Larder. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: the moment's proceeding. And you have to put some respect
Speaker 1: on Ali Larder's name because she commits to this movie
Speaker 1: all the way and it is, you know, not good.
Speaker 1: But she she is so crazy in the movie and
Speaker 1: so good and she is so believing in her insanity
Speaker 1: that when she gets to the end this movie, you
Speaker 1: think maybe she is going to kill But Beyonce, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, is it Beyonce pushes Ali Larder off the
Speaker 1: banister down the stairs. What happens is Beyonce gets home
Speaker 1: and sees Ali Larder in the jersey of her husband,
Speaker 1: Idris Alba, and did you not get my message? Because
Speaker 1: Beyonce has left a nasty message about leaving my family alone.
Speaker 1: And Ali is so crazy that Beyonce says, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let the police deal with you, and shortly Thereafter, there's
Speaker 1: the moment where Alie says wait and she goes, don't
Speaker 1: touch me. Yes, that's best acting moment of her career.
Speaker 1: Don't don't touch me, seconded by her and Dream Girls
Speaker 1: Curtis your child. Yeah, okay, but don't don't touch me
Speaker 1: is her number one, and they then break out into
Speaker 1: a huge fight or beyond calls Ali Larder a bit
Speaker 1: many times the inversion of a black person calling the
Speaker 1: police on a white woman threatening to call the police
Speaker 1: on a white Well, the police couldn't get anything done,
Speaker 1: while the police couldn't get the Christine Lottie the detective,
Speaker 1: she could get nothing done. She was the biggest idiot
Speaker 1: in film. Might as well be Debra messing and searching
Speaker 1: an idiot cop might as well. But Beyonce threatening, bumbling,
Speaker 1: The cops could not deal with Ali Larder in New
Speaker 1: Jersey being psychotic. Well, they did not get the chance
Speaker 1: because Beyonce said, I'm absolutely gonna handle this myself and
Speaker 1: ended up with Ali Larder crammting through an attic barely
Speaker 1: finished attic smashing into a coffee table in a very
Speaker 1: enough Jennifer Lopez moment, Yes and was crushed by Oh God,
Speaker 1: yeah Beyonce. You could tell Beyonce's character was a little shocked,
Speaker 1: surprised that they did that, that it got that. And
Speaker 1: then the best is when Beyonce runs out covered in
Speaker 1: blood and like her hair. Tous Old Parcels. Christine Lottie
Speaker 1: as the detective finally guests to the house and goes
Speaker 1: what happened? And Beyonce goes, I think, you know what happened?
Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking, like, I mean, she doesn't know
Speaker 1: what happened. She doesn't know, she's an idiot, but she
Speaker 1: ran in the house and she can, we can knows
Speaker 1: whom that she found out. And then it ends on
Speaker 1: Beyonce and Idris Elba hugging, and it ends on the
Speaker 1: ugliest freeze frame in history. I can't believe Beyonce an
Speaker 1: EP on the project Okay who I actually think there's
Speaker 1: another acting moment and obsessed that Beyonce does not get
Speaker 1: credit for Idris Elba that they get in a fight,
Speaker 1: and Sala says, where do you suggest I go? Beyonce says,
Speaker 1: but until they suggests the four Seasons? I suggest maybe
Speaker 1: the four seasons. Amazing acting. Beyonce knows Carter Nala and
Speaker 1: the Lion King Black is King the upcoming visual album
Speaker 1: Actress Actress now moving on s King of performers, performers.
Speaker 1: This is number twelve. Brandy chevs defined gravity final riff
Speaker 1: and all the alphabets who have attempted this final riff.
Speaker 1: We have to respect women putting their lives on the
Speaker 1: line in order to serve entertainment. And this is war.
Speaker 1: This is playing alpha but is war. And that's a
Speaker 1: ruler culture Number forty nine playing alpha, but is war.
Speaker 1: And the wires, the suspensions because of the vocal health,
Speaker 1: because of the pressures, because of needing to go up
Speaker 1: into the air. Yes, yes, yes, I mean magic on stage.
Speaker 1: Talk about green paint being applied every single day. Can't
Speaker 1: be comfortable. It's war. It's theatrical war, theatrical war. And
Speaker 1: Brandy chevon Massey is a good soldier because she went
Speaker 1: out there and ripped her throat in half at the
Speaker 1: end of Act one. Google it, bitch, it's it's It
Speaker 1: never loses its impact. You watch all the time, and
Speaker 1: you feel the same way every time. It's remarkable. It
Speaker 1: is I can only imagine if I was there what
Speaker 1: I would do, And I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: survived being there a live do we do? We try it? No? No, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't try. We have to let just google you
Speaker 1: know what. We're going to put it into the episode later.
Speaker 1: Here is Brandy Chavon Massey's final riff and define gravity
Speaker 1: all of us. So now you know, incredible, incredible and
Speaker 1: you and that number twelve even feels low for me. Well,
Speaker 1: you know the rest of the list is pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing list. Let's keep going. But wow, and
Speaker 1: we just want to say respect to every woman who
Speaker 1: has respect to the original Ada Adina, Stephanie J. Block,
Speaker 1: Nicole Parker, Yes, all the women, all the women and
Speaker 1: sho Shanna Bean, So Shanna Bean, I mean eating a spinosa,
Speaker 1: I mean put some respect on these names. These women
Speaker 1: went went to war. They went to war, they went
Speaker 1: to war. Let's keep going. September number eleven, when PARV cameristas,
Speaker 1: We're sorry to be self indulgent. We had to. This
Speaker 1: was a moment of culture. We built that moment up.
Speaker 1: We and they believe we made it happen. Thank you
Speaker 1: readers for go on that journey with us. We know
Speaker 1: a lot of people started to watch Survivor because we
Speaker 1: would not shut the funk up about it. We hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy it. And you know, Survivors is going through
Speaker 1: its own racial recording right now. There's a Black Survivor
Speaker 1: sort of group, UM that is trying to get a
Speaker 1: meeting with CBS executives, and we support their movement absolutely.
Speaker 1: We need we need every season to feel like Cook
Speaker 1: Islands without the Battle of the Races of it all,
Speaker 1: because what what that season did was it not only
Speaker 1: introduced us to parven so many amazing characters in the franchise,
Speaker 1: but also what it did was it was a diverse cast.
Speaker 1: Now they incentivized that in terms of the entertainment and
Speaker 1: the viewing in a way that's you can say is harmful, um,
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the contestants I thought
Speaker 1: was harmful. I recently watched an interview with you when
Speaker 1: he said when he found out what it was, he
Speaker 1: almost left, and he obviously did not leave. The spoiler
Speaker 1: alert he wins in one of the most dominant games played.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was going up against one of the
Speaker 1: best players ever, which is Part and Party before she
Speaker 1: realized her power. Um. But the moment of Part sort
Speaker 1: of becoming what she became, and I felt so it
Speaker 1: was so much fun to watch her in this Quarantine
Speaker 1: and she really did you know how sometimes like in
Speaker 1: your mind's eye, you have a stand in for yourself.
Speaker 1: For me, that was part for the first month and
Speaker 1: a half in Quarantine. I was just like, Parv is
Speaker 1: a spiritual beacon for me. She's amazing on the show.
Speaker 1: She's making me laugh, making me feel triumphant when and
Speaker 1: she's winning. And I love having being like like a
Speaker 1: different kind of character we've seen on the show. And honestly,
Speaker 1: Survivor kept me sane in the beginning of Quarantine, And
Speaker 1: the best part of watching Survivor was watching Parv And
Speaker 1: when part when we put out the ask to part,
Speaker 1: we were like, this maybe not gonna happen because we
Speaker 1: view her as a selab deity. And then she came
Speaker 1: on and it was a moment. It was so so wonderful,
Speaker 1: so charismatic, you know. I there was a moment several
Speaker 1: moments throughout the recording I remember very clearly, vividly in
Speaker 1: that damn zoom she but she was able to transcend
Speaker 1: the zoom and I was like, she's a star, and
Speaker 1: we think that We're just so proud of that moment
Speaker 1: and getting her on and that all the readers did
Speaker 1: their homework. That was a moment for the pod and
Speaker 1: it was it was a moment for the culture. By extension,
Speaker 1: who do you want to take to the end to
Speaker 1: four Girls? I mean, just an amazing moment. I watch it.
Speaker 1: Watch honestly respect Cook Islands, but watch Micronesia. Micronesia is
Speaker 1: the ship and Heroes versus Villains was like camp but
Speaker 1: also great. And this one's for you, and this one
Speaker 1: is for you, very good. This is for you, Jerry. Okay.
Speaker 1: So moving on to number ten. Something we talked about
Speaker 1: with PARV ten is ma mononym. We're not even saying
Speaker 1: the last name Maria. Maria and Mariah's appeared a couple
Speaker 1: of times throughout this list. Maria deserves her own spot.
Speaker 1: Talk about Mariah. I'm gonna give it for to you.
Speaker 1: You are the perennial Mariah expert. Mariah is the best
Speaker 1: of all time. She's one of the best pop songwriters
Speaker 1: of all times. She's one of the most prolific, She's
Speaker 1: one of the best singers of all time. Obviously, she's
Speaker 1: one of the best pop culture characters of all time.
Speaker 1: She is. She is a pop culture character, the gift
Speaker 1: that keeps on giving. She's one of the most shrewd
Speaker 1: business women in pop music. To create a Christmastly beast,
Speaker 1: anonymous with Christmas, and create a Christmas empire, to create
Speaker 1: a seasonal empire like that, she is one of the
Speaker 1: best ever. She never is boring, never a dull moment
Speaker 1: with Mariah and the Lambs, I I stand with you,
Speaker 1: I represent you. One of the best moments of the
Speaker 1: past few years for me was going down to Brooklyn
Speaker 1: and being there when she was interviewed about her amazing
Speaker 1: career as a songwriter when Caution came out Caution is
Speaker 1: an underrated abtion. Shame on the Grammys for not including
Speaker 1: it in the Best Album of the Year category when
Speaker 1: it was rightfully nominated. That's a controversy. I do not love.
Speaker 1: Also the Grammy's way under reward. Mariah M Butterfly one
Speaker 1: of the best albums of all time. Emancipation of MEEMI
Speaker 1: one of the best albums of all time. Just My
Speaker 1: Name Is Mariah Thelus Louie Lucianti is one of the
Speaker 1: best album titles of all time. I mean yeah, talk
Speaker 1: about like long titles being culture. That's the one right there.
Speaker 1: That's the one I gotta say. I might be an
Speaker 1: anomaly as as as a I'm not gonna I don't
Speaker 1: if I call myself a lamb. I feel like that
Speaker 1: you can call yourself a lamb. I don't have the
Speaker 1: encyclopedic knowledge that lamb's do. I love Mariah. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I have immersed myself. I mean, you love
Speaker 1: You're a scholar on Maria. I'm a lamb Lamb. I
Speaker 1: am that little boy that was in my room listening
Speaker 1: to all Mariah And I've said it on this podcast.
Speaker 1: But when I was in third grade, we had to
Speaker 1: do a free writing and um instead of doing free writing,
Speaker 1: I would just write down all the lyrics to Mariah songs.
Speaker 1: And my teacher thought they were my work. So she
Speaker 1: called a meeting with me and she was like, your
Speaker 1: poetry is so amazing. And then I looked at it
Speaker 1: and it was like literally lyrics from the song Breakdown
Speaker 1: by Mariah Carey and the Roof by Mariah carry all,
Speaker 1: like very adult themed things like in her vocabulary is
Speaker 1: famously a little bit advanced for pop music. Um So
Speaker 1: to think that my third grade teacher thought that me,
Speaker 1: an eight year old was capable of that. Mr. And
Speaker 1: Mrs Rodgers. I just wanted to have a meeting with you.
Speaker 1: Man is using the word nonchalantly, indefinitely. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: the a fact that Mariah had on me, I think
Speaker 1: says a lot, says a lot. I just really quickly
Speaker 1: wanted to say emotions. I think the you don't hear
Speaker 1: it covered, you don't hear it covered, But how could you.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even talking. I wasn't even talking about the single.
Speaker 1: I was talking about the album as a whole. I mean,
Speaker 1: um her MTV unplugged, her iconic cover of I'll Be There,
Speaker 1: I mean another one you don't hear covered, and you
Speaker 1: rarely hear mariah songs covered. You don't see a lot
Speaker 1: of girls out here singing my own, Like why would
Speaker 1: they ever attempt to sing my own? Not for nothing,
Speaker 1: but like, oh, I'm sorry, I actually accidentally played the song.
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to go and look at
Speaker 1: the title of the song. I didn't want to get
Speaker 1: it wrong. To be around you from emotions. And there
Speaker 1: are so many songs that we don't even talk about,
Speaker 1: such as All I Ever Wanted From, which is one
Speaker 1: of her songs from her first album or no, maybe
Speaker 1: that's from music Box. But also for every like tacky
Speaker 1: quote unquote songs she has, like hero I understand in
Speaker 1: respect that like those songs have a place heroes on
Speaker 1: the nose. And that's another song you don't hear covered
Speaker 1: because it might be a little on the nose. But
Speaker 1: touches people, touches people. You're right. I can't say enough
Speaker 1: even her failure, her biggest failure, Glitter is a culture moment,
Speaker 1: a culture moment that is tied to one of the
Speaker 1: worst tragedies in American history and stars padlock me. And
Speaker 1: that's what else can we say about silk? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Let's move on forward. This is we're in the top ten.
Speaker 1: We're in the top ten. Number nine. Mario cotars oscar
Speaker 1: speech the only one you can really sort of remember
Speaker 1: on a word for word level. Can you do it?
Speaker 1: Thank you life, Thank you love. And it is true
Speaker 1: there's some men as in this city. Make yourself so
Speaker 1: much what she'd be to me? Are you my life? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really am speechless now. And her English has only
Speaker 1: improved improve. I mean, it was the most charming moment ever.
Speaker 1: And also she looked stunning, and she was so surprised
Speaker 1: to win for Lavian Rose, one of the great best
Speaker 1: actress wins. I was so shocked the Academy went there,
Speaker 1: But they did, and they created a star and they
Speaker 1: also created a public truth. Thank you. Now to move
Speaker 1: on to what I think is I think the best
Speaker 1: acting performance on the list? Oh my god, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is number eight. This is a Poison Ivy. You have
Speaker 1: recently seen Batman and Robin I, it's been I hasn't
Speaker 1: been since the theater that I've seen Batman and Robin I.
Speaker 1: I have such an interesting, protected relationship with that film
Speaker 1: because I love it so much. What's happening in this
Speaker 1: film and in her performance is she has created a
Speaker 1: character which is May West meets Eartha kit meets Jessica
Speaker 1: Rabbit and has created something that fits so well into
Speaker 1: the assignment she was given in the tone of the movie,
Speaker 1: which is over the top, cartoon them fatale craziness. Most
Speaker 1: of her lines for the first half of the movie
Speaker 1: are by herself. She sells it completely. She does an
Speaker 1: iconic villain origin scene the shelves. The shelves get she
Speaker 1: she becomes Poison Ivy because a bunch of liquids get
Speaker 1: sort of chattered over her. Basically, she is sunken into
Speaker 1: the ground and liquids and venomous snakes and all sorts
Speaker 1: of poisons and toxins get sort of seeped into her
Speaker 1: body and bring her to life, We're to assume, but
Speaker 1: she goes from like crazy botanists to like eco terrorists.
Speaker 1: Unclear why if she wants to save all the plants
Speaker 1: in the world, she burns down uh lab in the
Speaker 1: middle of the forest um or the jungle or whatever
Speaker 1: she is, But it doesn't really matter because she's so
Speaker 1: go for broke. All of her lines are amazing, including
Speaker 1: the number one. As I told Lady Freeze when I
Speaker 1: pulled her plug, this is a one woman show. And like,
Speaker 1: correct me wrong. I feel like the framing on this
Speaker 1: is like skewed diag no. I don't know, maybe not,
Speaker 1: but it's just like such crazy, crazy choices on every
Speaker 1: level being made in that movie. But uma Thurman doing
Speaker 1: a lot of the work. I mean, because Arnold's not
Speaker 1: going to give you that love. That love Arnold's does well,
Speaker 1: and Arnold is not bad. He's not giving you like
Speaker 1: he's not kids. That actation he's not giving you earth
Speaker 1: a kid, he's not giving yours. He's not giving he's
Speaker 1: not giving you camp. I don't think beyond just like
Speaker 1: the costume of Mr free What's funny about Arnold's performance
Speaker 1: as Mr Freeze is it's Arnold doing these puns like
Speaker 1: he's just giving you. Arnold doing puns, and it's it's
Speaker 1: not an acting performance, although he does cry one tier
Speaker 1: word to believe um and he's good in it because
Speaker 1: it's like the assignment he was given was you do
Speaker 1: you as Mr Freed He did that. Buma has created
Speaker 1: a character and is selling it all the way and
Speaker 1: the script is insane, but she is fully committed to
Speaker 1: it her best performance and the stuming is amazing. She
Speaker 1: always looks stunning. Better than kill Bill, better than pulp fiction. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: forget the geriatric bad Come join me. This is you.
Speaker 1: It's infected, it's infected, it's infects infected and affected me
Speaker 1: in profound ways. You know who loves this, Patrick Rogers,
Speaker 1: Patrick Rogers, We love Patrick Rogers. I have never maybe
Speaker 1: I'm just like not in on the Conversation or in
Speaker 1: Batman and Robin, But Eartha Kid meets Jessica rabbit meets
Speaker 1: who else. I think May West, May West, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think May West is the clearest reference. But even
Speaker 1: just this like that, that's earth like, that's like doing
Speaker 1: it all. It's so clear where she got. I love that.
Speaker 1: I am obsessed. It's it's so good. We we should
Speaker 1: watch it tonight. Obviously we should, so, I bet so
Speaker 1: you want to watch it? Um with seven number seven
Speaker 1: Nancy Karragan and Tanya Harding saga and you know, God
Speaker 1: bless Ititania for humanizing Tanya. God bless I like it.
Speaker 1: I love Ititania um so oh much here, I mean,
Speaker 1: a tragedy on so many levels, so many levels. What
Speaker 1: do you want to say about this? What I like
Speaker 1: to say is this is really, I think one of
Speaker 1: the biggest media stories of the nineties. It was iconic
Speaker 1: Olympic drama. It was iconic class drama. This is what
Speaker 1: I this, This is what I wanted you to write,
Speaker 1: bat thank you. I mean, it's clearly there's a more
Speaker 1: complicated story here about what is asked of people when
Speaker 1: they get to that level of fame and attention, and
Speaker 1: what people forget is there's also so many factors that
Speaker 1: are involved in them being there and them sort of
Speaker 1: in terms of what they need to deal with, in
Speaker 1: terms of the advantages that one person is given over
Speaker 1: the other that are not looked at because the pulpy,
Speaker 1: straightforward a story is that there was a woman attacked
Speaker 1: and it's tragic. It's tragic that there was a woman
Speaker 1: attacked and Nancy Karagin did not deserve what she got.
Speaker 1: But I think the reason I like Itania is because
Speaker 1: it does shed light on the economic disparity and what
Speaker 1: abused us to a person, and um, you know it's
Speaker 1: it's so much more complicated then this woman doesn't like
Speaker 1: this woman. Yeah, it's so interesting that on face value,
Speaker 1: the news story was as big as it was without
Speaker 1: all this underlying stuff. Because the underlying stuff I think
Speaker 1: it would make the story. It's just as fascinating as
Speaker 1: the surface thing. Um yeah, I mean Tanya Harding seems
Speaker 1: to be doing well for herself now, I hope is.
Speaker 1: I feel like I did a cursory check up on
Speaker 1: her on Google the year that Ionia came out. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: good for her. I don't I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that she like has a normal life now. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think that she felt very sort of validated,
Speaker 1: whatever that means. I mean, we don't know the truth
Speaker 1: of the situation flat out, and she felt, I guess
Speaker 1: like her story was being told in some regard. Um,
Speaker 1: but it is and again like it's an iffy, tricky,
Speaker 1: gray area situation because maybe there's no part of her
Speaker 1: that should be absolved represented as like a folk hero,
Speaker 1: because she very well could have been completely in on it. Sure, totally.
Speaker 1: But there's a really sort of dynamic, very like weird
Speaker 1: American story happening here. Yes, which is and also it's
Speaker 1: so crazy and hilarious that it takes place in the
Speaker 1: world of figure skating, because it's what it means when um,
Speaker 1: someone doesn't belong and where it takes them and where
Speaker 1: where the place it brings them to emotionally really fascinating
Speaker 1: in Shakespearean thank you for that, beautiful, I mean, you
Speaker 1: just did all the heavy lifting there. In terms of
Speaker 1: talking about this, listen, I mean, if you have anything
Speaker 1: to say about Nancy Antonia, you have the floor now, wonderful. Um,
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't have anything to say, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, I'm not nothing that would
Speaker 1: feel additive or um constructive. We've covered a culturally onto
Speaker 1: the list and to the seven spot. But what's number six?
Speaker 1: Number six is Amar Rosa's most powerful man in the
Speaker 1: universe monologue. This is right before Trump was inaugurated. This
Speaker 1: was omar Rosa in an unhinged interview. I mean we
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's really seen the full the full interview,
Speaker 1: but in the snippet you have Omar Rosa many gult
Speaker 1: Stalworth Newman saying just sort of in a super villainous way,
Speaker 1: or in a super villain lackey way, sort of, I mean,
Speaker 1: mythologizing Donald Trump in a way that was really equal
Speaker 1: parts terrifying, inspiring and funny and ironic and stupid and pathetic.
Speaker 1: That I think it's just it's an iconic moment for
Speaker 1: for that intersection of things alone. He's a super villain.
Speaker 1: He's super villain. How much of this can we recite? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's just let's just cut. We'll just
Speaker 1: play you the audio. We're gonna play you the audio.
Speaker 1: Every critic, every detractor, We'll have to bow down to
Speaker 1: President Trump. It's everyone who's ever doubted Donald whoever disagreed,
Speaker 1: whoever challenged him, it is the ultimate revenge to become
Speaker 1: the most powerful man in the universe. So that's that's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, and actually is it's the only
Speaker 1: instance where we've started, one of two instances where we've
Speaker 1: started the podcast with anything other than ding dong. This
Speaker 1: was the Io Debrie episode. Please listen. I think it's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite episodes because we start off the
Speaker 1: first twenty minutes only talking about Amarossa because she was
Speaker 1: in very much in the news and the culture that week.
Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't tell me it wasn't the biggest news
Speaker 1: story of the millennium, of the millennium, and yet it's
Speaker 1: only number six, but all the cultural history transcends millennia.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about since the beginning of culture. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so try. How much do you know of it? Anyone
Speaker 1: who doubt anyone who ever doubted Donald, anyone ever did
Speaker 1: disagree we bow to what is the most powerful man
Speaker 1: in the universe. I mean, you all just heard it
Speaker 1: what we're just reciting, so now you can know just
Speaker 1: how incorrect and not off book Bonan is. And I
Speaker 1: am not even going to try it because I know
Speaker 1: I don't know it. But Omar Rossa. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Amar Rosa. What do you say? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a person who has taken the spotlight in a
Speaker 1: way that I think no one could have known would
Speaker 1: and I I actually think she'll remain relevant for years
Speaker 1: to come. She'll find a way. She'll find a way.
Speaker 1: She's more interesting to me than not to draw this
Speaker 1: comparison in a very superficial way, but she's more interesting
Speaker 1: to me than a Candice Owens. Oh, not even a
Speaker 1: competition Omar Rossa. The fact that she had very publicly,
Speaker 1: she had a very public origin story. She is a superman.
Speaker 1: She's a supermoman. We all saw it in The Apprentice.
Speaker 1: The plaster fell in her head. She's playing basketball with
Speaker 1: all these kids. Um like the full the full package.
Speaker 1: In the beginning where she was talking about working at
Speaker 1: the Bill Clinton White House, how ironic. But um then
Speaker 1: the celebrity of celebrity parents, her calling Piers Morgan closeted
Speaker 1: her iconic feuds. I mean, never forget the one with
Speaker 1: Bethany and Wendy Williams. I was going to bring out
Speaker 1: the Bethany one because that's actually really interesting. You can't,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can poke holes in this obviously, but
Speaker 1: it's when she was on Bethany and she was like, see, you,
Speaker 1: as a white woman, get to be mediocre and move
Speaker 1: up in the world. We're not saying that Bethany's mediocre
Speaker 1: at all, but we're saying, I mean, she uses Bethany
Speaker 1: as an example of mediocrity, white medio mediocrity and inequities
Speaker 1: and skill and whatever or not not scale but like
Speaker 1: you know, career advancement and mobility. But it's like, but
Speaker 1: Ommors is like, you get to be mediocre and have
Speaker 1: this talk show and you can't you can't fully disagree
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, she's speaking truth in that situation.
Speaker 1: But and a rare Bethany could not answer back. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Bethany a very smart woman who could really like win
Speaker 1: any argument with with Carol Radswell. Let's say, I mean
Speaker 1: she met her match with omor Rose. I think that
Speaker 1: she learned a lot from that. Omar Rosa interactually think so.
Speaker 1: I think she learned a lot and brought it back
Speaker 1: to Real Housewives when she when she went back, yes,
Speaker 1: and you know she didn't want to go back. She
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back. Um, all right, so Almarrosa congratulations,
Speaker 1: you are number six. We are at the top five
Speaker 1: moments of culture history. These are huge moments for us
Speaker 1: and for the world for culture huge And number five
Speaker 1: is I was rooting for you. We were all rooting
Speaker 1: for you. How dare you, Tyra? You have really connected
Speaker 1: with this moment. I I am a vessel for Tira
Speaker 1: when and the times that I've performed this live. This
Speaker 1: would sort of be my little third appearance on this list,
Speaker 1: her third appearance on this list? Is it her third?
Speaker 1: I feel like there's more. She was on for Rabies. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: Tira in this moment, this is this stands is one
Speaker 1: of the best moments in culture. Obviously it's number five
Speaker 1: and of course, on a very concentric scale, best moments
Speaker 1: in reality TV history, one of the best moments in
Speaker 1: reality t V history. You really can't tell if she's
Speaker 1: being abusive or if she's being actually nurturing, and you
Speaker 1: can't tell if she's actually looking out for Tiffany or
Speaker 1: she wants to destroy this girl as she's done for
Speaker 1: many girls. I think it's literally all yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think she wants She knows in the moment, in the
Speaker 1: deep back of her mind that she's being iconic, but
Speaker 1: also it comes from a real place. I bet she
Speaker 1: really was rooting for this girl. But it becomes the
Speaker 1: next level of reality TV star and startup and Tyra
Speaker 1: being iconic and also evil but powerful, powerful and convinced
Speaker 1: that she's correct. I have Tyra in a nutshell. It's
Speaker 1: Tyre in a nutshell. Oh my god. Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: Tyra a fascinating figure, someone who contains multitudes. I have
Speaker 1: never in my life yell yelled at a girl like this.
Speaker 1: When my mother yelled like to set me, it's because
Speaker 1: she loves me, like you you're you're in personal history there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. You're getting late. Yeah, it's a lot
Speaker 1: in the best way. And it's like you can tell
Speaker 1: the girl was like, oh my god. Had I known
Speaker 1: it was going to go here, I probably would have
Speaker 1: just smiled and said thank you. But also it's like,
Speaker 1: we don't really hear from the girl. No Tiffany Port Tiffany, um,
Speaker 1: where is she now? I think they interviewed her in
Speaker 1: recent years. I remember when we were writing top model
Speaker 1: recamps for Vulture, I like was just curious and I
Speaker 1: looked up with Tiffany how Tiffany was doing and Tiffany's
Speaker 1: understandably scarred by that moment. I would I would categorize
Speaker 1: that as a trauma. Oh yeah, I actually when it
Speaker 1: appears on television and the most popular reality show of
Speaker 1: the time, and that we're still we're still talking about
Speaker 1: this in some way today and to land it on
Speaker 1: or five on our rules of culture, that's got a sting.
Speaker 1: That's got a sting. Um. But Tiffany, we love you, Tyree,
Speaker 1: we love you. Um. Let's move on to number number four.
Speaker 1: I mean, here we go. Regina Hall as Brenda and
Speaker 1: the Scary Movie Films, comedy mastermind, mastermind, Cindy TV's leaking
Speaker 1: ugly bitch. Now, what the funk did that you? Pete?
Speaker 1: I know literally saw that ship, didn't I a comedy?
Speaker 1: What they all fake? Can comedy legend? Regina Hall I have.
Speaker 1: I'm on record of saying, if the world were fair,
Speaker 1: Regina Hall would be as big as Andrew Bullock. She
Speaker 1: can't do it all. She has the gravitas, she has
Speaker 1: the acting ability. She is I mean like deeply, deeply,
Speaker 1: deeply funny. It's like effortless efforts and that's like that
Speaker 1: voice she's doing. It's like a choice, like she's so
Speaker 1: in service against like just like and Batman Robin like
Speaker 1: so in the pocket of the tone of the movie Assignment.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Every time she's on screen, it's like,
Speaker 1: we love being with an Affairs on Affais is amazing
Speaker 1: And she didn't make the list, but she is culture
Speaker 1: but for us to get even more excited when a
Speaker 1: new character comes in. Every time Brenda had to be there. Brenda.
Speaker 1: And then even though she dies in so many of
Speaker 1: the movies, they always bring her back because they know,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they know she died in the second one.
Speaker 1: She died in all of them. I think she died
Speaker 1: in most of them. I don't know if she died
Speaker 1: in the first one. She definitely dies in the second,
Speaker 1: because she definitely she gets Jada Pinkett Smith killed Scream Yes,
Speaker 1: and she died in the third. She died in the
Speaker 1: third when she gets killed by the ring girl. And
Speaker 1: then in the fourth one, I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: remember if she dies or not. The fourth one is
Speaker 1: a blur to me, to be honest, it's not I
Speaker 1: I consider it a trilogy. I I ended after Scaring
Speaker 1: Movie three, and Scaring Movie three, of course, is the
Speaker 1: first that when PG. Thirteen and they still made it work,
Speaker 1: and I would say I would I would posit that
Speaker 1: in some ways it is the best of the three.
Speaker 1: Um I would also I would agree it's the best
Speaker 1: of the three and also like it didn't feel the
Speaker 1: need to be super because it wasn't urt. It was
Speaker 1: just irreverent PG. Thirteen humor that really suited the franchise
Speaker 1: and the performers. And Regina Hall, we give it up.
Speaker 1: She's a dream guest for me. I would love to
Speaker 1: have Regina Hall. We would talk about every single one
Speaker 1: of her projects in depth, support the girls. It would
Speaker 1: be like her inside actor studio moment Rest in Peace.
Speaker 1: James Lipton, we would love to serve as the substitute
Speaker 1: for anyone, especially Regina Hall, to talk about their working
Speaker 1: in depth. Way we feel we are the gay w
Speaker 1: TF James Lipton, WTF, Mark Marin James both white, white,
Speaker 1: Terry Gross a white man's name, not a white man,
Speaker 1: a white woman, but could be the name of a
Speaker 1: white man, could be and that we have to question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: number three, we're at the top three, Number three Spice
Speaker 1: World album and movie. I mean, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: album first. The album is incredible because it's giving you
Speaker 1: talk about the album, I'm just gonna name the singles,
Speaker 1: not the singles, but just some tracks. Spice up your
Speaker 1: life too much, stop Saturday Night divas. God, I mean
Speaker 1: even this not being the one with Wanna be on
Speaker 1: it or so Yeah. This I think is like the
Speaker 1: amped up progress version of Spice Girls. Also Spice Girls,
Speaker 1: they use the word feminism repeatedly. They were talking about
Speaker 1: being a feminist. They were talking about, you know, girl power,
Speaker 1: supporting women, friendship, positivity, all the messages that we're like,
Speaker 1: for some reason, dragging our feet to get to now
Speaker 1: in the year they were saying we were. They were
Speaker 1: the Angela Davis, a pop music saying the word Marxist.
Speaker 1: You said that moshing Forward Marxist feminism before any of
Speaker 1: the other girls. And then and the other girls still
Speaker 1: haven't really said come out and said that. And the
Speaker 1: iconic original storming out of a band member from the
Speaker 1: group during its peak, never Camul, never Jerry. I still
Speaker 1: I'm still a little hurt by Jerry. It's a part
Speaker 1: of the cultural canon that Jerry leaves, and it was
Speaker 1: written in the stars that she leaves, but she didn't
Speaker 1: leave before the movie, which I believe is actually the artistic,
Speaker 1: sort of real offering of the Spice Girls, because this
Speaker 1: is an actually funny movie. It's very funny, and it
Speaker 1: really it really breaks away from traditional movie structure, doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, and that's what it makes it great.
Speaker 1: It's like what we talked with Will about. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it's there. It's their yellow submarine. It's there night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's literally like it's it's referencing that which is which
Speaker 1: is a cultural callback which we love. It's referencing the
Speaker 1: fact that they are as famous as the Beatles at
Speaker 1: the time. And also it's irrever big comedy that goes
Speaker 1: for the joke, like all scenes are sketches, big costume character,
Speaker 1: stupid cameos, dumb like stuff that we don't see anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's also it's commenting on the fact that they
Speaker 1: have a movie. Yes, and they don't give a ship
Speaker 1: or they give a ship, but it's like not in
Speaker 1: the ways that you would expect, right, And also it's
Speaker 1: the best supporting actress snub for posh Spice do that
Speaker 1: what's the line? This dress is dry clean? Yeah, very good.
Speaker 1: I can I don't know what's up Jerry, I spy
Speaker 1: with my little eyes something blue hospital. Shut up, Jerry,
Speaker 1: shut up. Jerry ran so that Regina George saying, shut up,
Speaker 1: shut up. In mean girls could run, could run? Could run?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You so skinny? It walks?
Speaker 1: So what could run? You said? It ran so we
Speaker 1: could fly? So it could fly. That's what I meant.
Speaker 1: Um Oh, and Hans head of content, Hansa saying what
Speaker 1: about about Coming? I'm and always we give love to Alan.
Speaker 1: We could give love to Alan coming, who was in
Speaker 1: Spice World. And Josy the PISTI cats. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean truly doing so much more work than he was required.
Speaker 1: But we're so happy. We're so happy. I mean, Spice
Speaker 1: World a moment in time and now we actually are
Speaker 1: arriving at the top two. At the top two, number two.
Speaker 1: Oprah's interview with Barbara Walters. We could clarify this is
Speaker 1: in Barbara Walters was interviewing Oprah. Obra was the subject.
Speaker 1: This is around the time when the show was ending. Yes,
Speaker 1: very emotional and it was emotionally thick. And I believe
Speaker 1: what makes this such an important moment is it's two
Speaker 1: women who were boundary breakers in media. In media, Barbara
Speaker 1: Walters the first woman to really break through in a
Speaker 1: broadcasting capacity and knocked down so many doors for everyone
Speaker 1: that would follow her, including Oprah, who in turn did
Speaker 1: that for women of color and black women, and like
Speaker 1: just two of the biggest women in media sitting down
Speaker 1: and having a conversation about what this means and how
Speaker 1: they've gotten to where they've gotten an legacy that they
Speaker 1: that they leave centered around Oprah obviously, but I think
Speaker 1: this is most notable for the Gail quote. The Gail quotes.
Speaker 1: She is the mother I never had. She is the
Speaker 1: sister everybody would want. She is the friend that everybody deserves.
Speaker 1: I don't know a better person. I don't know a
Speaker 1: better person. So now you understand the depth of feeling.
Speaker 1: Why is it making you cry? I never said that
Speaker 1: to her before. And what is in del liable to
Speaker 1: me from that interview is just anto. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the point was. She's talking about going on vacation
Speaker 1: with Gail and driving past a car dealership and then
Speaker 1: they go back to the car dealership to buy a car,
Speaker 1: and then I remember Oprah going why because I could?
Speaker 1: And You're like, Okay, this is the life of Oprah.
Speaker 1: She gets to just see a car on a dealership
Speaker 1: lot and just be like, I want to buy that.
Speaker 1: Let's turn around. Oprah is you know, she is the
Speaker 1: obviously the pannicle. There is I think no one more famous,
Speaker 1: or more powerful or more important but um and we
Speaker 1: and we are holding Opra to account, especially after disclosure
Speaker 1: where she is the subject. I mean, you see the
Speaker 1: arc between her from her sort of talking about the
Speaker 1: anatomy of trans people and being very fixated on that
Speaker 1: when she has a transguest on her show to sort
Speaker 1: of really kind of enlightening herself on the train. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well she's always had to do that. She she she
Speaker 1: in the beginning, I mean in um, the white woman
Speaker 1: who does amazing work on race, and she does that
Speaker 1: Exchane Jane Elliott. She had Jane Elliott on her show
Speaker 1: to over twenty years ago. I mean, like doing like
Speaker 1: hard work for such a wide base of people. I
Speaker 1: have to ask a question, which is, if Oprah still
Speaker 1: on the air and has such access to white women
Speaker 1: what she did, does Trump get elected? Yes, you've put
Speaker 1: you've positive this before. It's hard to say. Well, it's
Speaker 1: hard to say because while she did have such influence
Speaker 1: over that demographic we saw. We did see her endorse
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, obviously, and we saw every celebrity indoors silly Clinton.
Speaker 1: So it also calls into question the validity of celebrity
Speaker 1: endorsements in the year to where sixteen going forward, which
Speaker 1: may be different forever. But I do think that she
Speaker 1: is that special person who's able to break through the
Speaker 1: conversation and say this is my feeling and opinion on this.
Speaker 1: That's why the Golden Globes that will be Demila working
Speaker 1: was like a huge thing. And like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think Oprah is trying to occupy this like sagely place
Speaker 1: in the world now where it's like she's still doing
Speaker 1: like super Soul Sunday. She's still like has her media
Speaker 1: empire out there, but it's like I think she's made
Speaker 1: a conscious decision to like leave space for other people.
Speaker 1: But I don't, I don't know. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: major new act coming in her life and she'll figure
Speaker 1: it out, you think, But oh yeah, she'll like I know,
Speaker 1: she isn't like top of mind conversation right now, but
Speaker 1: there is a major new era of Oprah that we're
Speaker 1: going to see. Absolutely, I feel UM, a lot of
Speaker 1: not every not every experience sort of rolled into one person.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, you have a sexual assault survivor,
Speaker 1: you have a black woman, you have um a richer
Speaker 1: story X to riches story. I mean like she I
Speaker 1: think that. I think that's what in some ways gives
Speaker 1: her some credential to talk about to like be like
Speaker 1: the steward for other people's experience. That's why it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like Oprah wants me to listen in on a
Speaker 1: conversation she has with vern Cox Gray. I'm gonna listen
Speaker 1: to him. Like that's what's powerful about Oprah, And you
Speaker 1: don't really get that with a lot of other people
Speaker 1: and people in media, Like, no, she's one of a kind,
Speaker 1: one of a kind. This interview is huge. UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know a better person. What a line? I don't
Speaker 1: know a better person? She really, I don't know a
Speaker 1: better PERSONA yea, yeah, an amazing interview. UM, wonderful supplementary.
Speaker 1: Uh sort of viewing for this is they took it
Speaker 1: off YouTube, but they used to have a lot of
Speaker 1: the final Oprah episode on YouTube, and that is a wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful ride. You can find it somewhere. You can find it,
Speaker 1: somewhere that's probably in your daily emotions. Your video is
Speaker 1: something okay, And we've arrived at the number one moment
Speaker 1: of culture and I think we both agree there could
Speaker 1: be nothing else. And um, this has been a ride,
Speaker 1: has been a three episode arc, and here we land
Speaker 1: number one, the number one moment in pop culture history.
Speaker 1: Look into my eyes, Adele does seem there could be
Speaker 1: a no other? I mean it was the Adele doesn't
Speaker 1: even heard around the world. We're still dealing with the
Speaker 1: ripple effect. We have not yet begun to understand what
Speaker 1: happened when John Travolta came out onto the Oscar stage
Speaker 1: and said, the wickedly talented one and only which is
Speaker 1: not Adina Menzel never will be her name, and then
Speaker 1: the cut to her face of abject terror before she
Speaker 1: begins singing a song she has not until that point
Speaker 1: sung successfully live on the point, she had not sung
Speaker 1: it lot, which is which implies that she ended up
Speaker 1: singing it successfully and she did not. Um, And we love,
Speaker 1: we love, we love her, We love Diana and into
Speaker 1: the Unknown as one of my top songs of this year.
Speaker 1: I love aDNA so much. I think that she's earned
Speaker 1: her place as an a list, being part of several
Speaker 1: cultural phenomenons but none of them make the list, like
Speaker 1: but she is one of them, the final riff of
Speaker 1: defined gravity. But Adele does seem. I'll never forget the
Speaker 1: joy I felt coursing through my body when I realized
Speaker 1: what he had done. I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: joy that I felt at first. I was confused and shocked,
Speaker 1: and I remember being with a group of people and
Speaker 1: we were just like, wait, what, okay, let's just keep watching.
Speaker 1: And then it was this sort of like aftershock on
Speaker 1: social media that we were just on Twitter. Our friends
Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute, yeah, John Travolta didn't say
Speaker 1: her name right, Oh No. I knew exactly what had happened.
Speaker 1: The sect it it happened. I remember he said, Adele
Speaker 1: do seem. I was watching it with three other people.
Speaker 1: Amanda was there. I remember looking over we both through
Speaker 1: our bodies like it was like like what it looks
Speaker 1: like when someone gets struck by lightning, like the comical
Speaker 1: sort of like your body flies over the cross. My
Speaker 1: body flew. I was limbs flying in the air. Literally,
Speaker 1: my body went into a joy state that I cannot describe,
Speaker 1: and I just said, oh, And to see a DNA
Speaker 1: mentel stand there and to understand that he did not
Speaker 1: get her name was so shocking and joyful for me
Speaker 1: because I knew it would be funny later and it's
Speaker 1: a good joke now. They presented at the Oscars the
Speaker 1: next year. She was up on the if then forwards
Speaker 1: as adult does seem for weeks and he was you're
Speaker 1: saying that in the next year. It was that weird,
Speaker 1: creepy moment where he was like pinching your cheeks. But
Speaker 1: when you say, because I agree with you, when you say,
Speaker 1: we do not have not have begun to understand what happened,
Speaker 1: what do you mean that, Because I feel like, does
Speaker 1: this mean that you have like some conspiracy know no conspiracy.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't think we understand, like how
Speaker 1: good a moment that was for the culture, and we
Speaker 1: need to say it's number one, Like what could beat that?
Speaker 1: Some people might say, like them announcing la Land and
Speaker 1: really it was that the list. I think that was
Speaker 1: just honestly a stupid mess up, and it actually taints
Speaker 1: the fact that Moonlight flat out won that award. And
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of sucked that that happened. Adele
Speaker 1: does seem you cannot begin to draw any line from
Speaker 1: Indiana menzelto the same. It just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: But felt like it made so much sense to the
Speaker 1: fact that I was like, this changes things. This is
Speaker 1: camp comedy high like the most serious the event that
Speaker 1: takes itself and most seriously in the industry in the world,
Speaker 1: having something so stupid, so stupid, And here I was
Speaker 1: thinking that joke of it was that John Travolta was
Speaker 1: announcing Let It Go the coming out some of our time.
Speaker 1: But yet and yet actually so is this the conspiracy
Speaker 1: that John Travolta, through the name, through it and through
Speaker 1: the introduction set Adela's em to take the scent off
Speaker 1: that everyone would be like conspiracy. You're starting right now,
Speaker 1: John Travolta introducing let It Go? Is it because he's oh,
Speaker 1: Adele de Zim, what is that? You know? Like that's
Speaker 1: like that seems like a fun little truth. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's something that, um, I can't see it being
Speaker 1: replaced by anything else anything. You cannot be Adelasim. We're
Speaker 1: we're still talking about it. You watch it now, I mean,
Speaker 1: have we played it? But we haven't played it lay it,
Speaker 1: and there will always be a special place in my
Speaker 1: heart for the movie musical and for the songs that
Speaker 1: create the most memorable moments here to perform the Oscar
Speaker 1: nominated Gorge, the empowering song let It Go from the
Speaker 1: Oscar winning animated movie Frozen, Please Welcome the Wickedly Talented
Speaker 1: One and only does Okay, So that was a dell
Speaker 1: doz em. It still hits you the same way it
Speaker 1: did at first, maybe even more, maybe even harder, maybe
Speaker 1: in a different place. Thing is like no one really
Speaker 1: knows how. There's been like an agreement about around the way.
Speaker 1: Adele doesn't even spell which is a d e l
Speaker 1: E d A z e e M. But there's like
Speaker 1: an undel happening. There's like it could be spelled a
Speaker 1: n d e l n A s i M. It's
Speaker 1: a soft d if that even exists. Like so much happening,
Speaker 1: Like what is the root of that name? Does seem?
Speaker 1: Is that Egyptian? Like what's happening here that the sibilants
Speaker 1: on does seem? Like the s sound like it's it's
Speaker 1: an s c um a s c i like as
Speaker 1: does seem regardless whatever it is, it is the number
Speaker 1: one moment and culture has stree and rightfully so, and
Speaker 1: it takes its place. And this was a two hour
Speaker 1: episode for moments. You know what, I wouldn't change the word.
Speaker 1: If I wouldn't change the word, because we are lost cultures,
Speaker 1: and we examine the culture that we've all experienced and
Speaker 1: which has come before us and that will come in
Speaker 1: the in the future, and we say thank you so
Speaker 1: each cultural moment that we experience, each cultural moment of
Speaker 1: the experience. Well added this out, But Hans said, but
Speaker 1: you literally told us to edit words though, and that's true.
Speaker 1: But who lasked in the grand scheme of things wouldn't
Speaker 1: change the word, wouldn't change a word. So we hope
Speaker 1: you um tolerated us self indulging on such an on
Speaker 1: such a crazy skill that we would do six hours
Speaker 1: total of audio over three days consecutively to celebrate our
Speaker 1: two hundred episode, potentially on a miscount our two hundred episode,
Speaker 1: but to celebrate with two moments in history and culture history.
Speaker 1: But we had a blast doing it, and we haven't
Speaker 1: been in the same room recording in some time. And
Speaker 1: we had fun, and we hope you had fun. And
Speaker 1: I think we're not going to do it. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. We're not doing anythink so honey. But
Speaker 1: hey this we might even encourage you to start your
Speaker 1: own list of the top two hundred moments and culture
Speaker 1: history and please send them to us and put them
Speaker 1: in a Google Docs send it's the lane, but your
Speaker 1: consideration F y C for UM. The next installment of
Speaker 1: this in two hundred, when we do this again in
Speaker 1: a couple of years, when we have our three and
Speaker 1: four hundred episodes. So it's a living document. As we said,
Speaker 1: it's a living document. And closing thoughts. I don't have
Speaker 1: really any closing thoughts, but I think that we're going
Speaker 1: to close things that we always close things, which is
Speaker 1: with a song Hell, nobody and all of us, no
Speaker 1: wizard there is or us Heather God may real ha.
Speaker 1: War it's war, yeah,