1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has a questionable lock of 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: the Week records. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Head and Shoulders. My 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hanss and I'm joined by room filled 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Lastling two days in a 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: row and Greg Rosa. What's up, boys, that's progress less? 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Just like Oh Daddy Wesser at a mimosa at Harry Hands. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: This is one of your birthday party. I just took wild, 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: just took slings and arrows from our producer for having 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: a mimosa and my my first day back from drinking 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: in six months. She stripped you of your man card 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: about eight seconds before the show. It's gone shocking lack 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: of empathy what West West had to say, Like, do 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: I have to pull the C card here? I first drink, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: let me get into it and and city and Lindsay's all, oh, listen, 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: you know where I come from. Everybody drinks Bud heavy 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: and that's the only man drink is. It's like that 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: right captured the spirit of it. This is the Week 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: ten recap show, Sunday Night recap show, often imitated, never duplicated. 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Um so many games to get to in uh week ten, 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I'm excited. I'm officially excited 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: now about as we're starting to peek forward, you know, 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: peek ahead, look at you know. Mike for in Cecia 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: used to say the season doesn't start till after Thanksgiving, 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: which you probably stole from Parcels, I'm guessing. But as 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: we head closer to Thanksgiving, the NFC, in particular, the 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: four teams in first place are combined twenty nine and seven. 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: The Eagles are eight and one, the Vikings, Saints and 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Rams all seven and two. That is a nice saucy 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: conference that you can get behind. The a f C 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: still mess west, but the NFC is gonna be a 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun as we go down the stretch in 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the season. I am really crossing my fingers and hoping 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: for a Saints Eagles matchup in the NFC Championship game. 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I think that will be a heck of a game. 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: And these teams played each other a ton and we'll 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: be talking about it. And the Rams played those three teams, 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: I believe in a row. There three out of four 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: weeks they play the Vikings and the Eagles and the Saints, 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: and there's some Seahawks Eagles mixed in there, a lot 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: of good games. So we're gonna get to all those teams. 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: And actually, why not, why don't we start with one 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: of those teams, and we'll start with one of the 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: teams that West wants an NFC title game. The new 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: old in Saints Breeze and the shotgun? Do you really 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: want to throw it? He looks to his left, now 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to his right, comes back over the middle, rolls to 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: his left, staying alive the way to the side, and 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: it's good to be breezed to the pilon and end. Oh. 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: Jim Henderson w w L chuckling him to himself because 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: in a game which Drew Brees did not even throw 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass, the Saint's nearly putting up a fifty burger. 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: The Saints set of franchise record six rushing touchdowns, including 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: that one from Drew Brees. Uh Mark Ingram had three, 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: which was a career high a forty seven to ten 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: dismantling of the Buffalo Bills and Orchard Park whoa West, 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: The Saints nearly put up a fifty burger. As I said, 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Drew Brees doesn't have to carry the show because they 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: are a well balanced unit, and that defense forget about it. Well, 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: I said on Thursday's show, this was a lopsided matchup, 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was a comprehensive evisceration the likes of which 62 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know I've seen all year, and maybe only 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: a handful times in all of the football games I've 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. When you when you always 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: go and watch this game, you will see the Saints 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: join whatever they want to do on offense, marching up 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and down the field with long, extended drives, imposing their 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: will on a defense that allowed three hundred rushing yards. 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Buffalo get gashed by the Jets 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: on the ground, and it was like, oh, it's the 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Jets and it was Thursday night, so it's an aberration, 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and let's find out what happens to Buffalo. Something's wrong, 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: po smart cell Darius trade because what happened today was 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: twice as bad. There was one play I saw earlier 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: trying to track this thing, a fourth and one play 76 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: where they went for at the Saints Hannah to Ingram, 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: he blasts down to about the five yard lane, and 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you knew the game was over because they just simply 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: overpowered Buffalo and the death. That's bad. It's a bad look. 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: And I'm sure Marcel Darius is enjoying himself watching how 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: badly they've they've struggled since he left. But it can't 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: be all with Darius just leaving the picture. No, it's 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: not all. I mean, it's just in general, like it's 84 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: that thing and and it was right when Greg everyone 85 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: got sucked into. The Bills is finally being a playoff 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: type team this year and now, And not to take 87 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: anything away from the Saints, but the Bills just haven't 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: showed up in two weeks and they played the best 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: running team in the league. So it's a combination of things. 90 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: So yet they haven't showed up and they have to 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: feel terrible about themselves in terms of how the last 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: two weeks have gone. But they also had the worst 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: matchup possible today and they're playing a running team who 94 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: has been about as good as at running as as 95 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: we've seen a team be in the last few years. 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: This was at reckoning the Bills all season. Hey been 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: well coached, overachievers with a shallow roster, and there's still 98 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: that I wanna I want to get after Bills fans 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: a little bit for cheering so loudly when they finally 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: when they brought a Nathan Peterman in garbage time taking 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: out Tyrod Taylor. I know Tyrode Taylor didn't have a 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: good game or anything, but a little too a little 103 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: too happy about that. They've been through a lot, Yeah, 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: they've been through. Because I picked the Bills, I was 105 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: going to keep my lock streak alive, and I stand 106 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: by the logic. But now now it looks a lot worse, 107 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: obviously because the Saints now look as good as anybody 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: in the league period. This was going on the road 109 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: in November against the team that plays well at home, 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: that's had a really nice season, and then, like West says, 111 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: embarrasses them in humiliating fashion, like WHOA, I'll just deal 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: with you. Were attempting to tie my impressive lock streak 113 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: ended last season, and we had a lock off, and 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I used my sort of Sessler analytics style to look 115 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: at this game and say, I'm very comfortable taking the 116 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: road team here, and it was hand. It came out well, 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: and so I'm not going to gloat, but a nice 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: run by you, Dan, and now it's time to start over. 119 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: And try to get back to tie my streak again. 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: I know this is going to pain you, it's humbling, 121 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: but I'll take first place in the overall standings and 122 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: all time standings home with me tonight. Those are fair 123 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: concession prizes. I think you have to consider the Saints 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders because of that formula you mentioned, going 125 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: on the road in cold weather outside of that friendly 126 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: dome that they've taken advantage of so much. But the 127 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: best team to the Sean Payton era have been the 128 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: teams that had a power runner like Deuce McAllister teamed 129 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: with that scat back, and Alvin Kamara is more than 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: a scat Yeah, he is shedding tacklers the likes of 131 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: which you don't see from a passing down back. He 132 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: might be He's back in the Rookie of the Year 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: mixed because of the Shawn Watson's injury, because the Leonard 134 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: four Nett hasn't really been showing up late. Hunt has 135 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: hit a slump, right he he is in at mix 136 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: and I want to see this Saints defense play against 137 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: a really good offense. But we'll see that down the stretch. 138 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: They got the Rams in a couple of weeks one 139 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: last thing. Camara and Ingram are now on pace for 140 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: almost three thousand yards combined. That is incredible, and I 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: do want to give credit to Dan. I think it 142 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: was very humble as you mentioned to mention that you're 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: leading in the overall records and the season. After accepting 144 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: the loss, thank you, thank you very much. Also that 145 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: you're in last place, dead last. We give it up. 146 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: This seems like a weird point for this, but I'll 147 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: take it anyway. Thank you. I take issue with that 148 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: bit of production right there. Let's move on checking out 149 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: another one of those NFC superpowers shotguns single back right, 150 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: subtle play, fake afflicking to the right, flat catch and 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: eight feeling makes a block. It springs free Charious right 152 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: who plunges in for a touchdown. Paul Allen k f 153 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: XC and with the call and Thensota Vikings keep role 154 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: in case. Keena threw four touchdown passes, each to a 155 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: different receiver, and the Vikings went on the road to 156 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: beat the Redskins thirty thirty, their fifth consecutive win. Uh 157 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: Keenan here also through two second half interceptions that gave 158 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: the Redskins life of Minnesota. They made that early lead 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: stand up and my first takeaway from the game, gentleman, 160 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: if this team can put together you know, thirty Burgers 161 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: putting up twenty five plus points a game with that defense, 162 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: just as the Saints are team that you also, whoa, 163 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: this is like a super Bowl level team potentially the 164 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: Vikings that their offense really starts clicking forget about it 165 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: well and throw the Rams in there like it just 166 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: backs our point up that the NFC suddenly hasn't in 167 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: some cases, new faces, new teams, new Yeah, they're all balanced. 168 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean a complaint in this room was like, how 169 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: you know these teams aren't the same every week? That's 170 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: just kind of like a big middle of the NFL. 171 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: And that's true for a lot of the NFL, but 172 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: it's actually been kind of a stat dere where in 173 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the NFC. Now where four of these teams are on pace, 174 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna take twelve thirteen wins to get a bye. Well, 175 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: I think you have to give Rick Spielman a lot 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: of credit for how deep and well rounded this roster is. 177 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: They lose their starting quarterback Sam Bradford, who had played 178 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: as well as he ever did in the opener. They 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: lose a Rookie of the Year type of player and 180 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. They lose Stefon Diggs, who had been one 181 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: of the hottest receivers in the league in September. They 182 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: lose him for almost a month, and they're rolling, and 183 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: they get case Keenum for one year and two million 184 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: dollars and he's He's channeled two thousand fifteen Ryan Fitzpatrick 185 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: as a guy who is playing to the level of 186 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: his surrounding talent and actually not just being a game 187 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: manager but making plays too well. To that point, also, 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: does it does it scare you at all if you're 189 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: if you're getting into the Vikings as a true contender 190 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: in this league that, like Ryan Fitzpatrick, there was always 191 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: this fear that at any moment, the guy can go 192 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: back to being what he had been for most of 193 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: his career. I would say, if I'm the Vikings fan, 194 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: that's my fear. But then you do have to Eddy 195 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Bridgewater also waiting in the wings, so they have almost 196 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: even if Keenham goes bad, you have this other guy 197 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: who's also a question mark, and he made his first 198 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: has made his return to uh the league today. I 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: think it was four forty two days Teddy Bridgewater went 200 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: between active appearances in the NFL, and after the national 201 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: anthem was played, they showed him on the sideline wiping 202 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: tears away from his face. Are really in a season 203 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: that's been marked by injuries and losing star players and 204 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: all these terrible things happening to have a guy that 205 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: made it back from a serious injury. Here's what Bridgewater 206 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: had to say after the game. Being able to stand 207 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: next to those guys on the sideline for the national anthem, 208 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: it's just it all boiled up. I kind of screamed 209 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: a little on the sideline after I said my prayerent 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: ends on. I screamed a little. Now when I got 211 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: on the sideline, I was like, man, it's really about 212 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: to happen. But like I said today, it was a 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: great moment for my life, my personal life, but it 214 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: was even a better moment for his team. The god there. 215 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: We competed and and after the game, Adam Feeling sent 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: out a tweet, you know, love this man. He's an 217 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: inspiration to many, including me talking about Teddy Bridgewater. And 218 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: in case Keenum, you know, retweets that and says this 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: on top of it, and you get a feeling just 220 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: because I think and we saw case Keenum in har 221 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Knocks and got a feel for who he is as 222 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: a guy, and you definitely get a great feel of 223 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: who Teddy Bridgewater is as a guy that this is 224 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: working like that this could be a weird situation almost 225 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: and everyone loves Teddy Bridgewater, but I think like everyone 226 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: there is, there's such good people that it's working. And 227 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: like they're they've been a good offensive team this season. 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: It's not all defense. I like how they're they're talking 229 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: during the game. Oh, Adam Feeling is now a star. 230 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean we have been tracking Adam Feeling dating back 231 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: to late last season and he does this no matter 232 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: who the quarterback is every week. And he's an incredibly tough, 233 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: physical guy that rests the ball away from defenders. He 234 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: had catches the day of thirty eight and seventeen yards. 235 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: He does it every week. So whether it's keen Um, 236 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Bokeenum that you know that 237 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna turn midnight and the offense is gonna 238 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: fall apart. There are some reliable things around him, and 239 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: they have depth at that position if nothing else, and 240 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks quarterbacks develop Case Keenum's he's kind of I feel 241 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: like he is what he is at this point, but 242 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: he's having a really nice season and feeling this is 243 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: a monster game. Like he's been an impact player for them, 244 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: but these this is the type of production that really 245 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: will put him on the map for a wider range 246 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: of people. So the Vikings moved to seven and two. 247 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:35,359 Speaker 1: Let's check in a big NFC battle Prescott, Oh, Claiborne 248 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: got a hand on it loose ball and Atlanta has 249 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: recovered and Clayborn knocked it loose that if that is 250 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: stated an official sack, that will be six. Wow, what 251 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: a day. Yes, indeed, Westernham w z G. What the call, 252 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne said, a Falcon's record with six sacks West 253 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: He put an Xcel clown suit on backup Cowboys left 254 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: tackle Chaz Green than anyone else who's got in his 255 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: way as the Falcons cruised to a seven win over 256 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, who saw their three game winning streaks snapped. 257 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: Chris We'll get to the Falcons in a second, but 258 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: let's start with Dallas, who looked positively hopeless with Tyron 259 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Smith and Zeke Elliott out of the lineup, and they 260 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: lose Seawan lead to a hamstring injury. So you find 261 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: out in this game what is the value of an 262 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: All Pro player? They lose three All pros and the 263 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: whole offensive attack was stymied. Adrian Claiborne had six sacks. 264 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: He has not He's only one time in seven years 265 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: of his career had more than that in a season, 266 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: an entire season. Chads Green started at left tackle and 267 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: at one point Troy Aitman said, this is about as 268 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: bad of a beating as I've ever seen any any 269 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: player take on a on the field. Chads Green got 270 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: benched at guard and their running game didn't take off 271 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: until Jonathan Cooper replaced him about a month ago. So 272 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: you see in the first half, without Elliott they have 273 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: no running game, and without Tyrone Smith they have no 274 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: pass protection. Dak Prescott has seen how the other half 275 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: lives and Hadrian Claiborne after the game, he's like him. 276 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: He even said, you know, I don't know what the thing. 277 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly he said, I mean, yeah, he said, 278 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly a uh, you know, a situational pass 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: rusher here. That's not normally my game. Iean, you look 280 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: at Adrian Claiborn. He's been through some really devastating injuries. 281 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: He's he's a big guy. He's not a guy you 282 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: you normally expect to see like bending the edge. But 283 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the thing is they brought in a backup to take 284 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: over for Green late in the game, and he got 285 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: two more sacks. I don't know, he's just he is 286 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: not built like Jadeveon Clowney or something like that. So 287 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: seeing this, but on some of these players, it was 288 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: like almost like it was let him not being mean 289 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: to the guy. You know, can you trust the guy 290 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: named Chas at left tackle? Probably not so it's probably 291 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Dallas's first mistake. But on some of those sacks, he 292 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't even get a hand on the guy. Well, you 293 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: might want to give him help too, I mean, when 294 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: you kill him to get a chip block or two. 295 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: And did they do anything different in the second half though, 296 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: to adjust blocking scheme to get something else to help him. 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: I noticed no Witten was involved a little bit. Um 298 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I saw once things got out of hand, But I 299 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: mean when they put up the white flag and take 300 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Chad's Green out of the game and then you're putting 301 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: in essentially it was the third string left tackle, I 302 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: mean just a really grim effort. And then on the 303 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: falcon side West, what were your takeaways? They look like 304 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Uh. Do they lose Devonte Freeman early Uh 305 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: to what looked like a concussion and Kevin culmanated one 306 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: of his best games of the year. I thought Matt 307 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: Ryan looked good, but I think Matt Ryan has looked 308 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: good all season. Thank you. It's good to have someone 309 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: else supported. I mean, if you're watching the games, Matt 310 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: Ryan is having a fine season. Well, I'm watching the 311 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: games too, and I don't. I think he's missing throws 312 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and the numbers back it up. He doesn't have He's 313 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: not having the same year. Well that's because you see 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Olio Jones miss an easy touchdown. You'll see they just 315 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: miss on a couple of plays by inches. He's he's 316 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: still the same quarterback he's always been. Their offense really 317 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: should get credit, even though the numbers aren't crazy. I mean, 318 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: it's seven three late in the middle of the third, 319 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the quarter, and they go nine 320 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: plays for a touchdown, then eleven place for a touchdown 321 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: that takes up half the third quarter, and then another 322 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: long drive for a field goal that that Cowboys only 323 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: had the ball once over that span, and the Falcons 324 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: put up seventeen points holding the ball, And that's kind 325 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: of what they are. They're not getting big plays, that's 326 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: the biggest difference. They were a big play offense last year. 327 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: They are not getting big plays this year. But they 328 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: are moving the ball well and today they finished their drive. 329 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: That's on the coordinator who's taking a lot of uh 330 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: I guess criticism for specific play calls. But to me, 331 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is guys who need space like Taylor Gabriel. 332 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan knew how to give him that space and 333 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Sarkisian has not. Adrian Clayborne six I think only four 334 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: six players in NFL history have done that before him. 335 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborn is now in that group. Let's move on 336 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: to an a f C matchup. Canaday with a snap 337 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Barry with a hold to decide this football game, hopefully 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's favorite good snap ball down kick on its way. 339 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: The boss comes from and the Pittsburg Steelers come from 340 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: a big hole and win a very important game and 341 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: come back from an apparent Yeah he'll he'll grow back 342 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: he Uh wait, so did Chris Boswell, take the bos 343 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: from Brian Bosworth. I don't think he can call a 344 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: kicker the boss. No, of course not. Well, it's it's 345 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: been labeled on him. Did he actually label himself that 346 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna assume yes, that he is all on board. 347 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: Because you nickname yourself doesn't mean everyone does. Ben Roethlisberger's 348 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: thirty two yard completion D'Antonio Brown with less than a 349 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: minute to play set up that thirty three yard game 350 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: winning field goal from the Boss as time expired, the 351 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: Steelers escape with a seventeen win uh in Indianapolis against 352 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: the Colts. Greg The Steelers woke up just in time 353 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: to avoid an embarrassing setback. Yeah, you never know what 354 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: to think in games like this where the Steelers clearly sleepwalk, 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: and they've done this time and time again. I think 356 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: they were seven and fourteen on the road against Sub 357 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: five in the last four years or five years under 358 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and they and they probably should have lost 359 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: this one. And the game turns on a Jack Doyle 360 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: drop that's you know, intercepted inside the ten yard line 361 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: that Ryan Shazier makes a great diving play, and then 362 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: they get it going and you want to just kill 363 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers. But then again, at some point, it's second 364 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: in seventeen with one left in the game, and they're 365 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: by no means is this game just automatic? Steelers are 366 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: gonna win it at that point, and Ben Roethlisberger makes 367 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: three great plays in a row, to Bell to to 368 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: Brown to Bryant, and you know, I don't know, you 369 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: deserve credit for that. You deserve credit for making your 370 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: best players of the game when it when it's you 371 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: can have credit. They can have all the credit they want. 372 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: But they played an awful defense today. And the one 373 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: thing I would say is because downstairs we all got 374 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: into a little bit about this whole Steelers thing, and 375 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: I know, Greg, you think very highly of them. I 376 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: think you should in in an in an a f 377 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: C that is an absolute and total abomination. They're probably 378 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: ticketed for the a f C title game, but they 379 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: are not. Even if if you just put the league 380 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: across the way, I don't see Pittsburgh the equal of 381 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: some of these NFC teams. They're not even They're not 382 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: as consistent, but at their best, I think they can 383 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: be any team. And that to me that the Conferences, Yes, 384 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: NFC is way deeper. But you know that Patriots long 385 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: if we waited for the Steelers to go at their 386 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: best two or three in a row in January winning, 387 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: but we saw two games in a row and their 388 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: two biggest games of the year when they absolutely steamrolled 389 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: the best competition they played. You gotta give a little 390 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: credit to the colt who absolutely dominated two opponents in 391 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: the NFL the last two weeks. They showed up, had 392 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: a good effort for thirty minutes, it wasn't enough and 393 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the better team wins. Well. I think one of the 394 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: hallmarks of the Toma era is that they sleepwalk on 395 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: the road against inferior and then the next week they 396 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: go and dismantle one of the best teams in the league. 397 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: That's that's what they've been doing for a year. It's 398 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: a good sign to me that Smith Schuster, I think 399 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: is here for good. Martavis Bryant's return was if he 400 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: at best interception on a ball thrown to him a 401 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: big loss in yardage. But I think Smith Schuster really 402 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: adds I can play, you can play. Every week he's 403 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of something and offense has been up 404 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: and down. Smith Schuster has been a guy that's been 405 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: making plays almost every week for the three yards ship 406 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: become from becoming the first Steelers rookie ever to have 407 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: back to back one yard receiving games. Is there any 408 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: concern about Levi on Bell once again? Twenty six carries 409 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: today used in the past game as well. Do we 410 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: just say role I didn't see the game. I've had 411 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: no concerns with him. It hasn't slowed down. I mean, 412 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: he hasn't slowed down. You do, James Connor at this point, 413 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, you just haven't seen many running backs have 414 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: that many carries and hold up. I do feel for 415 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: Colts fans, by the way, because there are Colts fans. 416 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: It is their season, I know, but we never talked, 417 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: never talked about them. They feel like they're pretty under 418 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: the radar. Their season has been excruciating if you're a 419 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: Colts fan. They have blown so many fourth quarters, like 420 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: they could very easily be six and four this year 421 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: as bad as their roster is, and really they don't 422 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: deserve it, like they have blown these fourth quarter leads 423 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: like it's nobody's business. You act like we overlook the Colts. 424 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: We've gotten exclusives with their general manager. What's your favorite 425 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: type of frog full frock. Let's move on no huddle 426 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: golf back to pass represents straight down the middle of 427 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: the field. He's got a man, no one, We'll catch 428 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: hip Robert Woods within ninety four yard touchdown from Jared 429 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Goff and the Rams ex get their lead on the Texans, 430 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: another NFC superpower. Jared Goff through uh for a career 431 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: high in yardage, went over three hundred yards, three touchdowns, 432 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: and the Rams defense made life hell for an overmatch 433 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Tom Savage a thirty to seven win over the Texans 434 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: at the Colosseum. Uh. You know this could have been 435 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Jard Goff against the Shaun Watson a lot of fun, 436 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: maybe a shootout instead, we got this anyway, this game 437 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: changed on that ninety four yard touchdown connection from goth 438 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: to Robert Woods, who is unquestionably the most productive former 439 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Bills wide receiver in l A mark. The seven and 440 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: two Rams can overwhelm you in an almost sneaky way. Yeah. 441 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: This this game, I would say that it boosted my 442 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: trust of the Rams in a big way because for 443 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: two plus quarters they looked like Jeff Fisher had stolen 444 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: into the building and was calling offense because they really 445 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: were asleep. And in the Texans defense with Jadeveon Clowney especially, 446 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: were fantastically on all you could ask them to do. 447 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: They did. But two things happened. A the Rams have 448 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: an ability and we've seen it week after week to 449 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: explode for spurts of time where it's not just yardage, 450 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: it's points, and that happened with the with the nineties 451 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: seven yard connection to Woods, and then they just take 452 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: They're also taking advantage. Their defense is also quality obviously. 453 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: And Tom Savage and if we needed any more proof, 454 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: give me a break. Two picks, two lost fumbles. He 455 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: had a pick six called back, He nearly had another 456 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: pick six, and saw another past that he threw deep 457 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: that should have been picked off as well. W t F. 458 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Give me a break with Tom Savage. Yeah, I think 459 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: that soundtrop okay. He The team is absolutely they're held 460 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: back in a way that very few quarterback backup quarterbacks 461 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: could even hope to do. Their teams. He got, he 462 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: got first team reps last week. T J. I think 463 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: you could see you're gonna see t J. Yates because 464 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: it's not It's one thing if you're you're Tom Savage 465 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: and you cannot extend the play like Deshaun Watson and 466 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: you cannot see the field like tone, Well, they're not 467 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: much of a line, and on top of it, you're 468 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: turning the ball over like a waterfall, and so it's like, 469 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's too much. If you just watched the 470 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: first half of this game, though it's a close game 471 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and Tom Savage is kind of picking the Rams apart 472 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, the first half looked 473 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: like like again like Jeff Fisher. It looked like last 474 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: year's Rams. It was depressing and you thought, hmm, have 475 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: they figured out some way to neutralize this offense? But 476 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: it just you have to hold him down for four quite. 477 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think t J. Yates is an improvement on 478 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: Tom Savage, even though everything Tom Savage does is right. 479 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: This is this is the where the Kaepernick argument as 480 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: its strong case right here, just because this was a 481 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: team that was sort of in the mix and you 482 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: never know, did you have a shot in the army. 483 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: Granted Tom seven start a week one, so he likes 484 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Tom Savage, but you also saw Bill O'Brien get so 485 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: frustrated when Savage doesn't see a blitz coming, which is 486 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: right in his face like that's the one that the 487 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: quarterback has to pick up, and and Bill O'Brien just 488 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: loses his mind afterwards, screaming about it, like how can 489 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: you not see that? But his mind just isn't there. 490 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: Um four game winning streak. They actually scored thirty three 491 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: points today. Four game winning streak. Now for the Rams, 492 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: who have now outscored their opponents during that streak. One 493 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: one thing. Let's say though, you got now we're gonna 494 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: find out who the Rams. That's pretty good, right, all 495 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: that is all? That is all. That's pretty shiny. It 496 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: can't get any better. You've got the Vikings and the Saints. 497 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: Then you get I guess you want to call it 498 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe somewhat of a week off against the Cardinals before 499 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: dealing with the Eagles. You basically are dealing that's a there, 500 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: there's a super Bowl run. Let's who are They are 501 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: playing the four best teams in the NFC in a 502 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: span of five weeks, which is wild. Another wild statu 503 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: from this game, this is the first win by the 504 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: Rams at the Coliseum other than an opening week wind. 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: They came back seven and two. Team they haven't even 506 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: been in there for like a month. That's what happens 507 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: when you play in USC stadium. Let us move on. 508 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Brad gets it down. Lambo picked it off and it 509 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: is good. He didn't hit it very well. It barely 510 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: got over, but it is good. Lambo was good from 511 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: thirty yards away. And the Jaguars haven't beaten the Los 512 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: Angeles Charger. That ever, big field Frank Frends wild come 513 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: back to us. It was deflected w ch j k 514 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: L with the call, Josh Lambo kicked that thirty yard 515 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: field goal three twelve remaining in overtime. The Jaguars win 516 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: over the Los Angeles Chargers in one of the I'm 517 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: gonna say it's silliest games of the year the last 518 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: it greg. This game was a roller coaster. It was 519 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: like one of those final destination movies. They were like 520 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: screws coming up, rattling, free bodies flying all over the place. 521 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: And when you have that type of game and the 522 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Chargers are involved, they're one of the dead bodies at 523 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: the end of it. Than they were like you thought 524 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: they were done, like finding painful ways to lose, but 525 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: blocking a field goal that goes in after Philip Rivers 526 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: throws an interception in overtime after you somehow lost the 527 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: game in which you had the lead at the end 528 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: of regulation and Blake Bortles through two interceptions in the 529 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: final two minutes of regulation, and yet you lost. Like 530 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: that's if you think about it. I don't know if 531 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: that's probably ever happened in NFL history. We would have 532 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to look that up. That a quarterback who's losing two 533 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: interceptions at the end, and it was like a Blake 534 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Bortles meltdown of epic proportions after he played three really 535 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: strong quarters. He couldn't not have been worse in the 536 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: fourth course, throwing some balloons and and they still found 537 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: a way through conservative play calling and uh untimely turnovers 538 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: between rivers and in their running back Eckler, who just 539 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: fumbled at the very worst time. It was a bad 540 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: fumble too, and I you know, I think, uh, you know, 541 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: the fumble rule and a lot of the rules with 542 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the NFL annoy me. The pylon rule, which we'll get 543 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: to a little bit later. But I thought that was 544 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Someone's gotta explained to me that play. So 545 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: Eckler fumbles it, who scoops it up? I don't remember, 546 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's scooped up and by a Jaguars player. 547 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: There is no evidence from all the angles at CBS 548 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: shows that he was touched. The ball seems like it's 549 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: squirted out from the pile. He jumped up quickly scored 550 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. They come back with a review that 551 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: he was down by contact, and then I gut wish. 552 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: What annoyed me the most is the official then says 553 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: that he was touched down by an opponent. It's like, 554 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: if you really believe that that's what happened, you should 555 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: tell the audience at home which player you think touched 556 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: this guy? Because nobody else saw it, and we never 557 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: saw it. We never saw a good view New York, 558 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: New York thought they saw it. That's a big play, 559 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: too open, right, because Borders after that ends up throwing 560 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: in an interception when they're in field goal range. And 561 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: then Anthony Lynn gets too conservative, doesn't let Rivers even 562 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: throw a pass there, although I guess you could argue 563 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: what Rivers did in overtime where he just throws one 564 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: up just because it's kind of like a yolo play. 565 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: It's just like, Wow, I don't want to tie the game. 566 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Let's just throw it up, he gets a We all 567 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: love Philip Rivers, but I mean, he looked like he's 568 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: about seventy nine years old on that and he's always 569 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: had an unorthodox delivery. But that was one of the 570 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: uglier throws you're gonna see this season. I don't know 571 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: why if you're I mean, we know who Doug Brone 572 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: is and how they've won some of the games they've won. 573 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles has thrown the ball eighty nine times over 574 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: the past two weeks. I just I don't see that 575 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: game script, that strategy really lasting for Jackson. They really 576 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: wanted to work that stretching the fourth quarter. It felt 577 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: part was he went two for twelve with the two 578 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: picks and then they got They got when they got 579 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: down to the goal line. It was on a bunch 580 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: of pass interference calls. I still don't think this Bortals 581 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: thing is gonna work. Yeah, they're a fascinating team. They 582 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: are because we've known all along this is one of 583 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: the best past defenses we've seen this century. And the 584 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: run defense with Marcelli Marcel Darius is getting much stronger. 585 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: He had a good game today. They're running attack is 586 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: deep and talented, where they can pull guys like Yelden 587 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: who was inactive earlier the year, and he plays pretty well. 588 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Corey Grant comes in and bust off long run quite often. 589 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: But then you have a quarterback. It's it's weird because 590 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: you see all the comparisons to great defenses with bad quarterbacks, 591 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: and I don't know if we you might have to 592 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: go back to the seventy four Steelers to find a 593 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: great defense with a quarterback that is mistake prone and 594 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: it's prone to you know, brain farts like the end 595 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: of this game. But he had played two really too, 596 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: really solid Bortles games and three really solid quarters. And 597 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: the thing that was fascinating to me about this game 598 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: is they only started moving the ball when they let 599 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles throw Their only offensive touchdown drive literally didn't 600 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: include a run. It was eleven straight passes. Leonard Fournette 601 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: went seventeen for thirty three and was benched because he 602 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: wasn't that effective for most of the fourth quarter in 603 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: overtime because they preferred to have yelled at an ivory 604 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: on the field. Melvin Gordon was essentially benched during the 605 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: key parts of this game because Austin Ekeler was out 606 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: playing him like it was. It was a very strange game. 607 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Jaguars have much of a 608 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: future if they're running game is stuck with four NET 609 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: like they have. It's a concern that they can't run 610 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: the ball against the Chargers. That's a concern. It's yeah. 611 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he it's been a bad eight days for him. 612 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: You're you're not part of the game plan last week 613 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: because of you know, klutzy all field behavior, and then 614 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: you don't show up today. But Leonard Fournette, I'm not 615 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: talking about him as a player, talking about it's a 616 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: team running attack and they haven't been able to run 617 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: the ball the last couple of weeks the way that 618 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: they would want to, whether it's for Nett or whoever. 619 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: And they literally set the franchise record in yards for 620 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: two in a two games stretch in the two games 621 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: that for net was gone, which is weird. I don't know. 622 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's in their head. I think it's 623 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: a coincidence. It's the opponents, but it's still weird. I 624 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: think defenses are probably selling out to stop the rock, 625 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: so Bortles is gonna have to make them pay, and 626 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: they had They had a hundred and forty plus yards 627 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: every week dating back to week two. Well today that 628 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: was boosted. They had a punt punt, a fake punt 629 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: got them seven points, which was fifties six yards. Like 630 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: the defense set up other points. My last thing is 631 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: we've talked about their defense so much. Their defense did 632 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: make the winning plays when it came down to a 633 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: J booy Malik Jackson with the Forest phone of the interception, 634 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: Like that's what great defense and they're fun to watch 635 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: on defense. Um, did you guys see the going back 636 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: to the Steelers game, that Juju Smith Schuster Levy on 637 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Bell touchdown celebration. You remember that, Um, physically and then mentally, 638 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I get in their mind, UM, get on today's skame. 639 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: He was talking. He wasn't taking shots at wives or 640 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: kids or anything like that, but he went after the 641 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: man's name. And now they're doing touchdown celebrations where they're 642 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: mocking the A J. Green uh choking thing and leave 643 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: bell on A J. Green said when they said, what 644 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: do you think A J will think about that celebration? 645 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, guess we'll see. I mean it's the 646 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Steelers and Bengals anything they can any excuse they can 647 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: find to take each other down. Those teams do not 648 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: like headline on ESPN dot com right, J. Green did 649 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: find today on that raverry is a history of one 650 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: team taking the other down and the other one not responding. Yeah, 651 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: the top headline at ESPN dot com when we went 652 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: up to tape this podcast tonight, Steelers mock Green chokehold 653 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: to celebrate t d Jalen Ramsey took away this man's spirit. 654 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: Something to watch. This might be he might just walk away. 655 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he put up five for one, fifteen in 656 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: the touch and he's headed to the Hall of Fames. 657 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: He's pretty quiet. He had a big seven yard touchdown. 658 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's move on. He's done. After the 659 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: firing to Murray at the three Murray died, Titans, Demark 660 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: may make the tax three touchdowns on the day for 661 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: DeMarco Hay that Titans take the lead with thirty six 662 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: ticks to Mike Keith w g f X with the call. 663 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: The Tituns continue to find ways to win. Marcus Mariota 664 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: orchestrated at twelve place seventy three yard drive that ended 665 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: with a touchdown pass yes to DeMarco Murray. That was 666 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: the difference win over the Bengals in Nashville. Greg for 667 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: the second straight week, yea boy, Mariota let his team 668 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: on an important touchdown drive. Oh he's the number one 669 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and all my dreams, Well this was he was 670 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: West's boy. Yeah, contin Jameis Winston over here. Well, because 671 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: you've been out West, maybe this was out of respect 672 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: for you. He like pushed Mario because Jameis Winston has 673 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: been having a bad year. He's trying to steal your Marda. 674 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: He adopted my child. I that's what I judge. What 675 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: I see and what I see as a guy who, 676 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: for the second straight week, got the ball in a 677 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: situation where it's like, hey, you gotta score a touchdown 678 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: right now. He did it against the Ravens, and they 679 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: did it in this Bengals game, in a game that 680 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: should never have been so close. They had the ball 681 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: for more than forty minutes. In a lot of ways, 682 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I think the Titans should feel good about this game. 683 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: The running game looked a little better. They scored a 684 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: great five minute touchdown drive when they absolutely needed to. 685 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Murray really did a nice job on that 686 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: touchdown or else it would have been fourth and goal 687 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: in this game would have been going to overtime. But 688 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: they blew a couple of big plays where they dropped 689 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 1: a touchdown, another one was fumbled out of the end zone. 690 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: Mariota had one terrible interception, and it was way closer 691 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: than it needed to be. I mean, I'm I am 692 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: trying to detect at any point that we've done this 693 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: show a team riding a four game win streak that 694 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: excites me less than the type. Yeah, that's fair. They've 695 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: been lucky. This is the game that probably they've looked 696 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: the best, and even that they made, they had too 697 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: many self inflicted wounds for much of it. For it 698 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been nearly as close as it was. The 699 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: most shocking fun fact to the days Vante's perfect got 700 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: got kicked out of the game. Say it was the 701 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: first objection of his career. I would have probably bet 702 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: my life savings, which isn't that much. It's very meager. 703 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't have life savings, but if I did, 704 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, he's been probably ejected fourteen times, 705 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: but honestly easily three times. I would have been question 706 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: three times it doesn't count when he ejected himself and 707 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: ran straight into the locker room if they intercepted. And 708 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: he's been suspended multiple time and in this case he 709 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: was fired up. It was a pretty touch call that 710 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: he got screwed penalized, and then it was even it 711 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: was very touched on, you know, contacting the official and 712 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: getting thrown out that one. You understand the penalty. I mean, 713 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: when you turn yourself into a sheet wall as you 714 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: can't be surprised when they throw you out of the game. 715 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: That's that's how it works. Let's move on, Stafford out 716 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: of the gun, Let's come. Stafford's gotta get rid of it. 717 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: Rose Deep got out the touch staff the lines, Stafford 718 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: laid it up. Eric called it in twenty nine yards 719 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: and the Lions for back on top. Ann Miller w 720 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: j R. What they called Matthew Stafford connected on that 721 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: tiebreaking touchdown to Eric Ebron early in the fourth quarter 722 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: of the line survived the scare from the Browns a 723 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight to win at Ford Field, Mark Sessler. Cleveland 724 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: actually had seen lead in this game in the second 725 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: half before the Wheels came off. How did Detroit take control, Well, 726 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: they scored the game's final twenty one points. And I 727 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: mean Cleveland's defense, which has had streaks, has quarters here 728 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: and there where they looked more than competent this time around. 729 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: It's just that the I think the floor fell out 730 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: at the end, and in Matthew Stafford, the guy that 731 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: we saw on Monday Night football, started to make those 732 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: plays in the final seventeen eighteen minutes of this game. Cleveland, 733 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: I thought they got the best performance they've had all 734 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: season from Kaiser uh It's that's not saying much. He's 735 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: had some disastrous starts, but they ran for over two 736 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: hundred yards and took advantage of Detroit's defense. Detroit though, 737 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: like they're the kind of team that you can't count 738 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: on them even though they're playing a bad team to 739 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: come in and wipe them out. And they this was 740 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: they kind of got their act together late and it 741 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: was it was scared is a good way to put it. 742 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: What they do they play in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 743 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: that's their move. They're gonna use it. Kenny Gallady, by 744 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: the way, had a you have to go watch this 745 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: catch he made along the sidewine before he went about 746 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: fifty yards total. It is the bit one of the 747 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: best catches I've seen in years, which is not surprising 748 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: from him, but Golden Tate, who was basically big to 749 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: have him back to game back in about five it 750 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: did help, although you wouldn't see the passing game from 751 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: what we saw against Green Bay to today it was. 752 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: It was not happening until it happened in spurts late. 753 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: Now I feel bad because if you're gonna say one 754 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: of the best catches you've seen in years, Maurice Harris 755 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: had one of the most tremendous catches, maybe the catch 756 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: of the season, I thought. In Washington today off the 757 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: practice squad made an O. B J type catch West. 758 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: What are you gonna say, Oh, I've declared war onlines fans. 759 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: They're already there. They were already on my radar for 760 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: the way in which they command respect for mediocrity. Oh, 761 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: the outrage of not giving my mediocre team not credit. 762 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: But when I called Golden Tate a poor man's Percy 763 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: Harvin apparent apparently that just Tomate. This made them to 764 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: no end. Percy Harvin, who is on a totally different 765 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: level talent wise, power, speed, agility than Golden Tate, not 766 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: even in the same class of athlete Percy Harvin, who 767 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: was once traded for a first round pick and two 768 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: more picks and the team had to make him the 769 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: fifth highest paid receiver in the NFL. Give me a 770 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: break that Golden Tate would ever be traded for that. 771 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: Also three years ago, I sat in this podcast for 772 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: hours and debated against Greg about how good Golden Tate was, 773 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: and then he was one of the most underrated players 774 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So Lions fans quit being Homer's this 775 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: is impressive by Wes, And I'll tell you why. West 776 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: is the one that made the Percy Harvin uh comparison. 777 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: And then you walked right into his trap, and then 778 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: you came to him and said that's not fair. Golden 779 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: Tate's better. And then West comes on the air Sunday 780 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: and just buries you. I would question anyone's eye for 781 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: football if you think Golden Taint is as talented as 782 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: Percy Harll. I I know that West is starting to 783 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: feel good and he's starting to feel back. And the 784 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: minute I really knew it is when I checked on 785 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: Twitter Saturday night and I thought, what the hell is happening? 786 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 1: There is twenty seven different things I am mentioned on 787 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: in a debate between West and the Lions fans about 788 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: Percy Harvon that included him challenging people to go back 789 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: and watch the tape, including West going back and actually 790 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: walked in the tape to confirm it and him burying 791 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: all twenty seven watched what has Happened to My feed? 792 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: I watched all eight of Percy Harvin's two thousand twelve 793 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: games the other night, and he was an absolute phenomen 794 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: Don't don't give me this Golden Tate rubbing before before 795 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: we move on from this game. The lines are kind 796 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: of a good example of how crazy deep the NFC is. 797 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: Ten teams are at least five and four better. So 798 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: if you're if you're the Redskins, for instance, who lost 799 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: this week to go war and five, you're you're at 800 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: number eleven. I mean you that that four and five 801 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: in the NFC feels very different from the a f C. 802 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: It's like the Lions and teams that are five and four, 803 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: they have a lot of work to do, even though 804 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: they have a winning record. Uh. Coming up next for 805 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: the lines, By the way, if you have an easy 806 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: schedule of the at Chicago home to Minnesota at Baltimore. 807 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: Uh so I gotta win two of those, you'd think, 808 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: let's move on shotgun formulation. Fitzpatrick takes us out pressure 809 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: coming about called ball touchdowns, have a touchdown, Charles Simms, 810 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: nobody pricked him off the flincher Fitzpatrick hetty pulled the 811 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: trigger and the Bucks fired the proper's way and fire 812 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 1: the carriage tire him. Jean Decker off w x TB 813 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: with the call yes. Ryan Fitzpatrick through that game, icing 814 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: touchdown past the Charles sim Simms and limited his mistakes 815 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: as the Bucks and after five game losing streak with 816 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: a ten win over my Jets, Josh McCown uh and 817 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: the New York offense listless from the first possession until 818 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: garb time, telling less than two hundred yards of total offense. 819 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: I warned you, Subreddit, you gotta give them the prices 820 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: right losing horn and then he certainly don't lock up 821 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: the Jets on the road, especially when there's a lot 822 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: of evidence out there to say the Jets are maybe okay. 823 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: They This is always I don't care who you take 824 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: out of the locked up the Jets subredit sub over there, 825 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: Greg's right that tweet, like how do you know what 826 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: I was talking about part of the internet that you 827 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: have never visited? Apparently, No, I don't. I don't think 828 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: it's good. I don't think it's good to have like 829 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: an echo chamber. You don't want to read your own 830 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: what people are saying about you. Alright, A fascinating look 831 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: into Greg soul. They're anyway. Thank you to all the 832 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: fans that support us on the subreddit. Yeah. So the 833 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: Jets were always vulnerable in this game, because if you 834 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: watched them this season, this was always possible. But it's 835 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: still a terrible loss that removes uh any any hope. 836 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: I think have at four and six. They have to 837 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: win a lot of games to close the season, and 838 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: dropping a game that was winnable on paper, it's just 839 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: there's no coming back. Now they're forked. They had to 840 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: win this game. I was saying they could get back 841 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: to five and five and in the a f C 842 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: that you were just talking about anything that happened. But 843 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: now it's over. I think I would. I think the 844 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: interesting part is reading bands recap of this game, at 845 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: what point in the season do they pull the plug 846 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: on the cown and look at one of the younger guys. 847 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: And at that point, I think the Jets are going 848 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 1: to find out how bad those younger guys are. Yeah, 849 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: I think they're an interesting position because obviously four and 850 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: six and they're probably heading towards ten or eleven losses. 851 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: You would think, um, especially if they put in these kids. 852 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: But and there's no sense putting in a thirty keeping 853 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: a thirty eight year old in when you're not going anywhere. 854 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: But I also you don't get the feeling and and 855 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: following this team that they really think either of those 856 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: guys is the Yeah, well don't that's disrespectful to the 857 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: rest of the team. Just like if if those guys 858 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: aren't the guys and they're not going to be the future, 859 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: just try to win the games accounts. But I know 860 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't good today, And this shows that they're capable 861 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: of anything in a negative sense because this they played 862 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 1: the most lifeless, worst defense, worst team in the league. Really, 863 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: over the last month they didn't do anything. But unless 864 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: this happens for a month straight, if you're getting the 865 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: Josh McCown you stopper eight or nine weeks, you gotta 866 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: keep mins. Well, you gotta watch this game because this 867 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: was kind of like it was a game. We get 868 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: two journeyman quarterbacks, guys that have been on a hundred teams, 869 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: and McCown looked like the guy that's when he's been 870 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 1: off in past years. How he looked in I think 871 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: it's worth checking out them just because what else are 872 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna do? You gotta play the rest of the schedule. 873 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that they need to do it 874 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: immediately because one of these guys is opening the season. 875 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: One thing, there is literally no way, if you're Mike 876 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: mccagnet that you can sell this fan base on any 877 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: level that Bryce Petty or Christian Hackenburgh are your are 878 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: your quarterback for next season? Absolutely not. And we saw 879 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: Hackenburg in a lifeless preseason where there's no pass rush, 880 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: there's no scheming, and he was abysmal. I just I 881 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you're telling your teammate. Eight teams in 882 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: your pocket? Pet done with Petty? Though? Do you honestly 883 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: think Petty has any chance to be the Jets long 884 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: term into quarterback. Don't you think they know that? Maybe 885 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: they see him as a backup. I just think, like 886 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, McCown came into this game with a chance 887 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: to become the highest completion percentage leader in Jets history. 888 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: He's had I'm just saying, Josh McCown has done more 889 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: than anyone expected him. Sister and fast. Five days ago, 890 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: you were thinking I was a jerk for wanting to 891 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: fork um. Now you want to see you have enough 892 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: victory parades, and that's not a victory. I'm saying like 893 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: it's four and six. He's saying that after they lost bucks, 894 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: though not when they does not make more sense before 895 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: this game happened. Now it makes sense to me. I 896 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to see how Sunday played out, and I 897 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: kind of suspicions this is going to happen, and it did. 898 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm laming for an apology from the rest of 899 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: his room. Why because all of the shots he took 900 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: at me for my Josh McCown love for the lad 901 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: he's made the lead, he's making the leap as well. 902 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: All of the shots they were taken over and over again. 903 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: And my only point was he's a perfectly respectable placeholder 904 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: at quarterback. I thought you said he was one of 905 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. That's how I could remember 906 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: that he outplayed Jay Cutler, which I mean I dealt 907 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: with him, his Cleveland's quarterback for two years. I feel 908 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: like I was part at least allowed myself to suffer. 909 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't just taking shots, all right, Let's move on 910 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: on second to nine. A snapped Hunley looking scrambles to 911 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: his right, throws the right side for Adam stinning Adams 912 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: a spinning gravel on the right corner of the end zone. 913 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: Wayne Larvy w T MJ with a call Brat Hunley 914 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: through for two hundred twelve yards and a touchdown to 915 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: Davante Adams as the Packers end of the three game 916 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: losing streak over the Chicago Bears, who taught us a 917 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: lesson in recency bias. Mark green Bay looked like a 918 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: lost six days ago. What was different today? Well, I 919 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: saw I saw stepping stones. I saw steps from Brett Hunley. 920 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: I feel like you saw a couple of throws. He 921 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: had a touchdown two atoms, which I think that was 922 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: the call right there? Well it was, and and they 923 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: were immediately calling an Aaron Rodgers like throw all I'll 924 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: say this, it was the best throw that Hunley has 925 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: made all year, and all you want to see, It's 926 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: like you can't ask for it the minute he's put 927 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: on the field out of nowhere, having never really played 928 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: in a real game situation. It's taken some weeks. This 929 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: is a good defense he faced, and he made some throws. 930 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: He kept the offense alive, and they lost Aaron Jones 931 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: early in the game, so he didn't have you know, 932 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: his number one back out there supporting the way he 933 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: did in pass games where the running game was working. 934 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: Everything was working around Hunley except Hunley. This was a 935 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: little bit of a growth move for him. I think 936 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: it was a promising game. I don't know what it 937 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: means for the Packers long term, but I mean their 938 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: season is over if they lose this one today. They're 939 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: the only team with a winning record that's been forked. 940 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: So they've got that motivational gambit in their back pocket. 941 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: If anyone would like to deliver that news to them, 942 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: because I am certain they don't know that West tooken 943 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: l today as well. I am perfectly willing to take 944 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: a loss in the lock game if it makes the 945 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: Packers more watchable and maybe for a few minutes, shuts 946 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: up the people who think it's a bright idea, the 947 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: people who think that because we haven't seen Coln Kaepernick 948 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: for a while. He's Johnny Unitis and off of his 949 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: couch will come in and do a better job than 950 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: a guy that Mark Mike McCarthy has been grooming and 951 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: developing for three years. How did uh do we like 952 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: uh Mitch Drobiskie at all in this game? At least 953 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: they let him throw thirty five times. People are kind 954 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,399 Speaker 1: of waiting for that coming out of a bye week 955 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe, well, they couldn't run the ball. 956 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: I think when they couldn't run the ball, it wasn't 957 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they went in hoping he'd throw the 958 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: ball thirty five times. But I think every week Strabisky 959 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 1: shows you a little bit about why he is someone 960 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: that they trust to start week after week. He's beautiful 961 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: rollout passer. The most John fox Is moment, though, happened 962 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,720 Speaker 1: today when Benny Cunningham beautiful passenger Serbiski runs touchdown, long, long, touchdown, 963 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: catch and run and he's diving and he has the 964 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: ball and it's and it's about to touch the pylon. 965 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: The ball comes a little loose and Fox basically challenged 966 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: it to confirm that it was a touchdown versus him 967 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: being down earlier in the like the one yard line 968 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: and the refs reverse it and to say touchback Packers ball. 969 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: That that Fox his fault, but you know it is 970 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: his fault that the results end up being. That is 971 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: probably the worst challenge in his It was bad about 972 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: he literally gave the ball to the other other team 973 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: was at a first thing goal. I was rooting hard 974 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: in this game quietly for West to be right because 975 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm worried now that the Packers won that the flex 976 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: Nola movement put in the Rams and Saints. It's going great. 977 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: We've had lots oft Twitter. You know, I appreciate everyone 978 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: out there that's been tweeting about it's been getting and 979 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: getting a lot of tweets hashtag flex Nola jumping on 980 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: that it's not too eight to let the NFL know, 981 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: get the Packers out of prime time in Week twelve 982 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: and put one of the most entertaining, exciting NFL games 983 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: in the year on Sunday Night football. Some people like 984 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King go out and help civil rights. Gregg 985 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: is trying to flex the game into the schedule three 986 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: or four weeks from now. And if there's one thing 987 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: we learned when we appeal to the League office through 988 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: this podcast, like sending us to London, for instance. They 989 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: will act and they'll say, Wow, this show has a 990 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: great foothold in the UK, let's get him there because 991 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: we're smart business people. For Ef Hutton's right here. They 992 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: just simply perk up the ears. We act off what 993 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: they say. Um, okay, what's the opposite of cash? That's 994 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: what we have? Um all right for? By the way, 995 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: Ford and move on. Didn't you Greg lock up the 996 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: Jets on Thursday? I locked up the Titans? You old 997 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, remember you? What do you mean you guys 998 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,240 Speaker 1: made fun of you made fun of that? You didn't 999 00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: think it was everybody gave him some? They weren't. They weren't. 1000 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: They were too small. Oh you know what it was? 1001 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: You know. I threw it to the Kissing Cousins and 1002 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: then West ruled that you had to the end of 1003 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: the show to decide. And then yeah, and I never 1004 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 1: I never really visited. So we know what really happened. 1005 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: What really happened When one for two pick as well, 1006 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: I said, no, I'm gonna stick with it. Let's second second, 1007 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: We'll let a t N lock up the side you 1008 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: know they'll figure out, seems saying that seems like a 1009 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: neutral arbiter. Is that scene fair, Gret? That's fine. We're 1010 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: playing for last place. I trying to extra loss. There's no, 1011 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: there's no didn't actually pick the deaths, but given to me. 1012 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: There's no lock up draft. Greg's trying to be gained 1013 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: from this. Let's I kind of like it. Let's check 1014 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: in with the other downtrodden New York team. Bethrod under center. 1015 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: Giants bring extra people, Towns pick it up. Get Bethard time. 1016 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: He takes the deep shot for good. One down the middle. Good, 1017 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: one's got the thirty. There's the whole touchdowns eighty three 1018 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: yards A long time coming. Ted Robinson sounds like a 1019 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: guy has been waiting to call play like that. Uh 1020 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 1: there was the uh. San Francisco forty Niners are off infamy. 1021 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: Watch c J. Beth threw two touchdown passes. He completed 1022 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: more than his passes. It's the forty Niners cruised passed 1023 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: deep at that big bell bottom. That ends a nine 1024 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: game losing streak for the Niners and leaves the Browns 1025 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: is the NFL's lone winless team. The Giants. Meanwhile, they 1026 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: may be in the dark West. I'm leaning on you. 1027 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: You're a football historian. Uh, they may be in the 1028 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: darkest places of franchise hell since maybe pre Parcels. Yeah, 1029 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: I'd say late seventies, early eighties, and they were in 1030 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: a very dark place then for extended time. Yeah. I 1031 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: was thinking about it because I grew up in New 1032 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: York obviously, and around all Giants fans, very few Jets 1033 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: fans in the town where I grew up, and so 1034 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: I've been very close to this team since the eighties, 1035 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: and they've had bad seasons, the Giants. So one of 1036 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: the reasons there's such a great organization is they can 1037 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: come out of those uh those valleys and then they 1038 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: put together little runs of multiple years. So you have 1039 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: to kind of go back to maybe post Parcels, Ray 1040 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: Hanley into Dave Brown, but that was never as what's 1041 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: happening right here, So you might have to have to 1042 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: go back to Ray Perkins and to a Giants fan 1043 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: base that was exceedingly loyal and had It's basically similar 1044 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: to before the Steelers in the seventies became a powerhouse 1045 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: with that city went through for decades and decades. It 1046 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: was that long in New York. I remember or being 1047 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: old enough where friends fathers when they finally won the 1048 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl were crying. It had been they had waited 1049 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: since they were kids. Basically, Well, the difference, you know 1050 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: with this team is people picking them to win the 1051 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's what makes it. No, I'm just saying 1052 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: it's especially ugly. I didn't even mean you at this point, 1053 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: like so many people had them. Yeah, you know what, 1054 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: I I can't. Here's why I'm gonna disagree. And I'll 1055 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: tell you one thing. Yes, you're suffering one of these 1056 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: sort of aberration. You're gonna go two and fourteen. But 1057 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: they're gonna it's the end of Eli Manning's career, and 1058 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: if there is a quarterback that emerges, they're gonna have 1059 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: the first, second or third pick in the draft and 1060 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: the chance to go from Eli Manning to another potentials 1061 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, which is good timing. The Manning brothers do this, baby, baby, 1062 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: but they just I just mean in this season, in 1063 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: this defense, especially giving up four hundred and seventy four 1064 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: yards to c J. Bethred and Matt Breda and Louis 1065 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: Murphy who has just signed off the off the street 1066 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: and someone named Kendrick Bourne, who is an undrafted player 1067 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: from American making plays on you the numbers eight point 1068 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: two yards for to play. This is Kyle Shanahan's Falcons. 1069 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: Like when the Giants defense steps on the field, pretty 1070 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: much the worst offense in the league, the Forts or 1071 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: one of them at least turns into the two thousand 1072 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: and sixteen Falcons. Genera's wasn't even trying to make tackles today, 1073 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: And when they tried to interview him after the game, 1074 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: a PR person literally was trying to keep him in 1075 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: the locker room so that he would answer questions, and 1076 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: he muscled pass and got the the PR person out 1077 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: of the way. Mike Florio's reporting that Ben McAdoo might 1078 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: not even make it into next week it is about 1079 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: as ugly as a game that's bad by Jack Roberts. 1080 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: I was wondering what Jack Rabbit did to have half 1081 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: the beat writers of the Jaire fired up and all 1082 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: the Fantasy football Twitter demanding did he get yanked off 1083 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: the field for effort? There was a There were two 1084 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: different plays at least that they highlighted in the in 1085 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: the highlight reels where you know the forty Niners scored, 1086 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: and it didn't seem like Jenkins was going too far 1087 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: out of his way to this tackle. The I mean 1088 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: better just sacked fourteen times in the three games coming 1089 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: into this. He was getting beaten up to the point 1090 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: where you thought, maybe you don't put Garoppolo in there 1091 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: because he's gonna suffering. She potentially wasn't touched today. They 1092 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 1: gave up fifty one points to the Rams. Last week 1093 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: the Giants, this was the worst law. I think everything 1094 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be in everything must go. A situation with 1095 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: the Giants, I think it's Ben mcadoo's obviously gone. I 1096 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: think Jerry Reese could end up be gone gone because 1097 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: as much credit as he got for that free agent 1098 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: hall last year, now with things what's happening with Jack 1099 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: Rabbit and d r C who I don't think it 1100 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: was last year hook up pick up, but he was 1101 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: a big signing by Reese. I mean these I think 1102 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: they might just hit the button and and it goes 1103 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 1: all the way to the top, perhaps trading up or 1104 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: being in the top three and getting a quarterback and 1105 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 1: just starting over. It could certainly happen, and if it does, 1106 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: it was a great, great run. And if they have 1107 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: they players. Uh, if this is how it ends, well, 1108 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: a Giants bench is as much as the sucks. I 1109 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. I get it. Been in the 1110 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,240 Speaker 1: in the situation. You had a great run with Eli 1111 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: and and Reese and Coughlin into McAdoo. But now you 1112 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: gotta it's the new journey. Yeah, I mean, give me 1113 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: a break with total darkness. It's a better They won 1114 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. It's worth knowing that with that one 1115 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: and out last year was the only playoff game they've 1116 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: been in in the last six seasons, so it has 1117 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: been not dark like this, but it hasn't had a 1118 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: lot of success since since that. Soon that's unrest too, 1119 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: so you would think he's very vulnerable. Thought. Yeah, when 1120 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: you're building through free agency, you're building a roster, not 1121 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: a team, and I think this is the downside of that. 1122 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on Sunday night, mcmatics Tea's up 1123 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: to kick off toward Lewis kicks sailing two yards into 1124 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: the end zone. Left side was sprist pass. A look 1125 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: at the lay end of the thirties cuts the who 1126 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: in the four silo pushing running the block goes to 1127 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: the tener sliding right to the end zone, wired the 1128 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 1: wire Lewis touchdown, Patriots Bob Soci and the Zolac with 1129 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: the call w b Z. He's going by the Zolac 1130 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: at this point. Let's fly. Uh. The New England Patriots, 1131 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: led by Dion Lewis is one in three yard kickoff 1132 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: return UH trouts the Denver Broncos on Sunday Night Football 1133 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: at forty one to six team final. Uh. And this 1134 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 1: was a game, Greg Rosenthal, that you could have tried 1135 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: to get yourself talk yourself into. The Broncos last stand. Oh, 1136 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has struggled against Denver Broncos at mile high. 1137 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: But you know what, this is the tale of two teams. 1138 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,959 Speaker 1: One team in the Broncos and the Patriots is getting 1139 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: better and better, and one team in the Broncos that 1140 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: is just going down the toilet. Yeah, they don't look 1141 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: like a good, a well coached team, the Broncos. I 1142 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: thought that if you're if the Broncos are gonna get 1143 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: blown out in this game, the reason is gonna be 1144 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler. And yet brock Osweiler can't believe it. I 1145 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: can't believe it that he really didn't have that much 1146 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: of a factor in this final score. The Broncos scored 1147 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: their offense on four of their first five possessions. What 1148 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: more do you want out of brock Osweiler? And they 1149 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: were trailing by three plus scores at that time. The 1150 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: special teams alone for Denver made mistakes that led to 1151 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty four points, either directly or indirectly because the Patriots 1152 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: scored after it. My question would be this that people 1153 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: looked at what happened when Denver ran into an Eagles 1154 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: buzz saw last week and gave up fifty one point, 1155 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: you're now giving up ninety plus in two weeks. Are 1156 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: we allowed to be concerned about Denver's defense or are 1157 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: they still seen as some sort of super Bowl level outfit. 1158 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't see them that. I mean, that would be 1159 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: really straight. But but even twelve hours ago, people were saying, well, 1160 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: because that was because they had played seven or eight 1161 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: seven really solid games. I would say it two very good, 1162 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: and the Eagles game looked like an outlier. And now 1163 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: they've got two games like this in a row. I 1164 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: think they've earned some of that respect and benefited doubt. 1165 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: But but when you give up ninety two points over 1166 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: a two week stretch that there's definitely a reason to 1167 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: be skeptical and start looking for whether it runs deeper. 1168 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: I know Chris Harris was talking about the absence of 1169 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: t J. Ward last week. I don't know if there's 1170 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: still some hurt feelings there. So who knows how deep 1171 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: that run Another Tom Brady he gets kind of overlooked 1172 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: in these conversations. But uh, thirty four three more touchdowns, 1173 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,479 Speaker 1: no picks, passer rating of one point four before Brian 1174 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: Hoyer took some garbage snaps at the end of the game. 1175 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: He is right there at the top of the m 1176 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: v P race. He's doing it making it look easy. Uh, 1177 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: And I think I think he might be beating father time. 1178 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: So that's good. It seems to be gradual. It's an improvement. 1179 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: It's a gradual incline. He is you know, you said 1180 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: it was. You think he's throwing the ball better since 1181 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: the start of last season than he ever has in 1182 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: his career. I find it interesting that people attached himself 1183 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: to ideas and then like the whole country gets behind it, 1184 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: Like Carson Wentz is an m v P and Tom 1185 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: Brady's not. Brady has played circles around Wentz this year. 1186 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: I I love what Wentz has done. He's been spectacular, 1187 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: but Brady has been more consistent in a better pass 1188 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: or doesn't that happen to the to New England though. 1189 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: It's like every year the coach of the Year goes 1190 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: to someone who what a flowery, nice story. You went 1191 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: from five and eleven to nine and seven. You're the 1192 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: coach of the year. Belichick is been the coach of 1193 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: the year every year. Tom Brady is the m v 1194 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: P and Aaron Rodgers every year. It's the same thing 1195 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: we talk about year and a year out of this podcast. 1196 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's sick of it. Everyone he gets used it with 1197 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: the throne of ease and all that. But I understand 1198 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: that that that Brady should not be overlooked by by 1199 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: any stretch. And the numbers are there. Look, let's let's 1200 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: be honest. The Patriots are once again on their way 1201 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: to another thirteen or you know, twelve or thirteen wins, 1202 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: and he's the main reason why their their offense is 1203 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: getting better throughout the season. I believe. I think Brandon 1204 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Cooks has added an element that they didn't have before. 1205 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett ends up playing in this game, has had 1206 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: a twenty seven yard catch. I'm sure that you know 1207 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: annoyed Packers fans out there, but I think he adds 1208 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: an important element to their offense because they're are They're 1209 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: the ultimate matchup team there. A whole point is to 1210 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: get their running backs and now a few of their 1211 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: tight ends matched up in advantageous situations on the outside. 1212 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: I kind of don't know why other teams don't do 1213 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: that more. I guess they don't have enough pass catching 1214 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: backs like that is their offense right now, and Brady 1215 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: is the best that choosing who has the right matchup, 1216 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,440 Speaker 1: and I think adding Bennett really adds a lot to that. 1217 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Greg the Patriots for one in three in the preseason, 1218 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: I know that that concerned you. Are you over that 1219 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 1: concern now with them searching about iron? Did I ever 1220 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: say about that about tonight when Tommy Boy had a 1221 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: three and out in the first drive, Well, this game, 1222 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, and then the next play, of course, a 1223 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: muffpunt and the game was over at that point. They 1224 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: they have been extremely lucky, I believe this season with 1225 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: plays like that. I think that helps explain why they're 1226 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 1: thirteenth in Football Outsiders in terms of efficiency. They've had 1227 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things go their way in terms of 1228 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: turnovers or tonight it with special teams and they made 1229 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: their breaks there. But there's a lot of games where 1230 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: you watched it and the two teams didn't seem that 1231 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: uneven when you look at yards or yards for play 1232 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: and then you look at the scoreboard and it's a blowout, 1233 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes I think that's coaching. I mean, Hugh Jackson 1234 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: and the Browns have outgained their opponents in five of 1235 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: nine games this year, and they have even won a game. 1236 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't be any happier with you know what, I've 1237 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: experienced another bad game on Sunday Night, Al Chris and 1238 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Michelle the best on TV perhaps, but the worst luck 1239 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: this season. And how bad was this game? In the 1240 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: second half? As this thing just evolved into a laugher, 1241 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: we just started going around the room, uh, West Gregg 1242 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: and myself guessing which foods Mark still eats now that 1243 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: he's basically a vegan. And that was the most entertaining 1244 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 1: aspect today. Well, because you because you only root for 1245 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: two teams. We you said this, you volunteered this downstairs. 1246 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: You only have two teams that you have rootine interests 1247 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 1: for the Jets and whoever plays the Patriots. You just 1248 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: didn't like this result. If it was everyone else in 1249 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: this room thrilled by the I think that here's the thing, 1250 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: and this is this is where it gets to me 1251 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, is that we were saying this is 1252 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: how this game was gonna go all week long, and 1253 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: then it's all this like false hoop law about how 1254 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be a great game and stuff, and 1255 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: in the end it's a wrong this podcast. You have 1256 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: to just accept that in a bad a f C, 1257 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: this team is gonna say it is a stunner. If 1258 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: they don't make the Super Bowl, it is a stunner. 1259 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any other straw men in 1260 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: farm fields. Why is it ridiculous fields? Why is it 1261 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: ridiculous to say the Patriots up our bags? As we 1262 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: finished this podcast, remember when this that you're just mad 1263 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: that they're winning, because not mad, I just want to 1264 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: acknowledge that. Let's acknowledge that they're the clear favorites that 1265 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: would be at five straight games, they've they've now not 1266 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: allowed more than seventeen points. Remember when the defense was 1267 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: the big what a narrative that was. Oh, the Patriots don't. 1268 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Oh they're a mess this year. They might not even 1269 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: make the play. Of course, to the clear favorites. What 1270 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: are you even doing over there? Alright? I guess I 1271 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: was saying favorites versus the field. I'd take the field 1272 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: in the a f C. Yeah, I would take the field. 1273 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Come on, the field was burnt down about four weeks ago. 1274 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 1: There's nothing growing in the field where the straw man 1275 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: that you're the Patriots up in their castle looking down 1276 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: on this field that was scorched by invaders. Well, if 1277 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to go at another you know narrative that's 1278 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: died is their tackle an offensive line play was terrible 1279 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: mablem And now like Adrian Waddle comes in there and 1280 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: Nate Soldier and their Stone and Von Miller. They had 1281 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: a nice night. Ah, there you go. So the Patriots 1282 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: cruising to another Super Bowl. Will be back on Tuesday 1283 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: when we will recap the Monday night match up between 1284 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Mark Uh the Dolphins and the Carolina Panthers. But I 1285 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: had you there for a second. You did for a second, 1286 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: and uh and we'll have some fun on Tuesday with 1287 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Connie Fox and another week of action. So thank you 1288 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: to everyone. Uh, Connie Fox, who refused to fork the 1289 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Broncos and I and I want to say it before 1290 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: we go. I want to say before we go because 1291 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: it's stuck in my head. One of our loyal listeners 1292 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: of forty Niners fans, after I tweeted something derisive about 1293 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 1: the Giants at the end of that game, said please, 1294 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna spend your three or four minutes 1295 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: killing the Giants in this game, but will you please 1296 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: say something nice about our team in this game? This 1297 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 1: is all we have. And I've been there. I was 1298 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: there as a Patriots fan on a one in fifteen 1299 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: season or on a bad season, and you really do 1300 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: enjoy those winning days. So you know, let's give up 1301 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: some kudos. I'm gonna say. C J. Beth played, He's 1302 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: shop quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo. He showed a lot of toughness. 1303 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: I think you saw some of the great coaching that 1304 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: you'll see in the future in Kyle Shanahan. C J. Bethard, 1305 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 1: I think showed a lot of toughness the last few 1306 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: weeks and hits and he shows up and he got 1307 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: rewarded for it today. And Marky's goodwin on what was 1308 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: a tragic day for him. He lost his son at 1309 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 1: four in the morning during childbirth, and he scores an 1310 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: eighty three yard touchdown and his teammates mobbed him and 1311 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: it was a special moment there, like you're that that 1312 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: was a pretty special moment for the Forts and let 1313 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,919 Speaker 1: them have their day. Good job, Greg, very well done. 1314 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: As always you're a total row um. All right, So 1315 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 1: that's it. Catch you Tuesday. Another week in the books, 1316 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: Mark We're basic seasons basically are then Hands, the sunning Off, 1317 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: quiet night Bars, the mail Man, the Old Boss and 1318 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Lindsay Poulton behind the Glass Till Tuesday.