WEBVTT - Mike McCarthy: Off To A Really Good Start 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.720 Doing well. You start, we're talking about what now that 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.960 you're at this stage of the off season program, just 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.600 what your thrust is and these OTA's leading up to 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:16.079 the mini cabinets our thrust you know, I think, um, no, 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.840 first off, I think this is really the first opportunity, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.439 you know, we've really had to have a full off season, 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.439 you know, pro full off season and building leading up 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.480 to the off season program. I think, you know, first off, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.800 you have you have a season, regardless of your level 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.920 of success, and there's always you know, things you need 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:40.000 to focus on. You know, we're through the player acquisition challenge, 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.879 you know, I mean it continues, but you know, we 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.279 have read a ninety man and so I think clearly 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.879 our opportunity to build off of we had last year. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.000 Did you feel like you know, because you don't really 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.080 get to carry everything over year to year. I think 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.959 that's something you have to be in tune with. So 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.480 the opportunity to build off of we feel like we 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.320 have established last year. You can really you can really 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.200 see its showing up, uh, particularly early in the off 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.200 season program. And I think the understanding of the players 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.320 and coaches being on the same page, you know, whether 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.760 we're talking about you know, the connection in the locker room, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.480 the brotherhood in the locker room, locker room to you know, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.160 the connection with the coaches, you know, you know, creating 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.880 our space for development. I think we've done a tremendous 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.440 job there. Um, the participation that we've had is exactly 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.000 what you're looking for. And you know, I think back 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.440 to my prior experience it. You know, it is really 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.360 the third year under different circumstances to you really get 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.160 it the way you want it. You know, we've been 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.280 you know close to you know, we're ninety five percent attendance, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.640 you know throughout the whole off season prom we've been 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.520 one hundred percent obviously since we started Phase three. So 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.280 you did see all those things lead up to it, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.280 and really the thrust get to your question, because we 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.360 got to get these OTA's practice the right way, you know, 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.080 just because it gives you a chance to uh, because 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.840 I've always felt the off season program. Two things happened. One, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.480 it gives you a chance to have a really strong 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.400 training camp because you have to eliminate the learning curve. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.760 It has to be eliminated, and you have to close 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:15.000 that gap between your veterans in your rookies because you know, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.120 everybody goes through each year and and we're really off 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.200 to a really good start. I really commend our rookie 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.440 class in our coaching staff. You can see from the 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.239 time of the draft, and you know, the free agents 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.040 are including that they're that two week window between that 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.200 the start of the rookie mini camp and now the players. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.960 This is this is a very mature rookie class as 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:40.120 far as they're understanding, um, the way they've you know, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.520 this is a feedback from the veterans. You know, they 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.440 really appreciate the way they've come into the locker room, 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.480 you know, listen and learn, ask the right questions and 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.680 so forth. So we haven't won any games, we haven't 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.760 accomplished you know, everything that we would like. But this 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.239 is we're off to a really really good start, and 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.079 you know that's kind of the state of where we are. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.880 But the goal is to get these eight get these 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.800 eight installs, you know, get them wrapped so that you know, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.040 every player knows exactly what's expected of him schematically, you 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.400 know what his role is going to be, that you 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.120 know the jobs that he's competing to kins and you know, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.000 and give gives us a chance to line them up 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.639 because you know, for for all your they've been here forever. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.240 You know, you just don't get as much time, you know, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.480 you know, work to work your team in a you know, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.960 real competitive environment, um as you did in the past. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.639 Now that may not bother to young people, but it 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.919 does gives me a little angst because you know, you're 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.240 you're used to a certain standard of developing your players. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.400 So but I really liked the offseason that we've put 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:41.920 together so to date. Can you touch on you value me? 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.200 I know you got young kids, Yeah, definitely, I mean 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.240 heavy heart obviously, I'm sure like everybody you know, just 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.520 as something we're dealing with State of Texas and you know, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.440 just this week in general is just um, I mean 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.680 it's mind boggling only talking about these things because it's 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:05.720 hard enough to think about as a parent. But we've 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.720 been talking about a lot today, so this is and 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.680 this is obviously a topic for all of us you 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.080 know here. So yeah, I just we got to be better. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.520 I mean, responsibilities we have as a community as parents. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.880 I mean it's just uh, it's it's it's it's just 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.360 to see this go on in today's world. I find 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.560 it troubling. There has to be a better way, but 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.719 we know there's a better way, and we need to 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.080 do the things, you know that to make it better 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.400 to not to protect the future of our communities. It's 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:41.400 just it's it's it's it's tragic and um and uh yeah, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.120 it makes me sick, like I'm sure it does everybody. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.320 It's just more frustrating for you to process and deal 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.600 with the older you get because you've seen so little 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.360 progress in this area. Are really going back? Yeah, you know, definitely. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.000 And I'm irish and we cry like hell of the 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.359 older you get. I mean, it doesn't help, but no, 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.560 it's terri well and I didn't mean to make humor 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.640 of it, but I'm just trying to I'm really just 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.240 trying to get myself together here. Um. Yeah, it's it's 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:10.040 it's I'm not just I can't even fathom. But you know, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.240 something like that happening today's and today we're so much 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:24.360 better than that. And um and so I'm sorry you 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.560 just goes this with your family at all? Is that 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.320 something versus again, it's such a role, sup. I'm gonna 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.640 talk about at the dinner table, you know. Uh so, yeah, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.720 I mean it's you know, I have young children, about 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:43.480 fourth grader, so it's yeah, well sorry, I'm good, No, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:49.000 we're fine. Yeah, if the phone and if it's okay 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.200 to go back for a minute. Um, you mentioned a 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.280 couple of months ago to ask the importance working with 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.280 the perimeter group this time of the year because of 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.039 the many type of work you can't you can't do. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.919 How did you feel that with today? And well, I 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.640 mean we're working through it. I mean, you know, I 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.520 like to you know, think that you're always trying to 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.640 you know, work within the guidelines of you know, what 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.320 these practices are. But I mean, let's be honest, we 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.200 went through this last year. Um. It's you have young 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.880 players that are really trying to prove themselves. They got 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:19.440 to bring a lot of energy them and they're doing 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.120 everything you ask. Um. But it is our first time 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.400 on a practice field. So we you know, we've had 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.800 I think we had a handful of plays, uh you 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.120 know yesterday that that we need to clean up. You know, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.560 we we addressed those today in the meeting and you know, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.839 we had we had some pass rushers today that you know, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.760 we just we just you know, we're watching as a 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.960 staff before I come in here, so we got to 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.240 clean that up. But yeah, I think the way we're practicing. Uh, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.520 and every coaching staff and every football team is going 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.159 through it because you know, they tweak and adjust these 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.520 you know, these rules and the drills. But but I 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.440 really do like to work. We've adjusted, you know, you 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:54.919 don't know if you've even noticed this. I mean we 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.919 came right out of the gate, and so because of 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.680 the way you have to practicing camp and ramp up, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.800 you know, so we're get we just we're really heavy, heavy, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.720 heavy perimeter emphasis doing the things that are trying to 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.359 stay away from the hard ball type plays that create 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.920 more collisions. Um. And you know we're gonna have to 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.200 do that when we get to the auxtion or two. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.240 So so we're trying to emulate that now so the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.960 players know what to expect. So we're this is just 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.080 the way I've always done it as an offensive coordinator. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.000 You I've always liked to marry um the offseason program, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.239 practice opportunities to the training camp. Now it's gotten harder 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.680 with the rules, but um, but I think it's it 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.520 really helps it. When I talk about decreasing the curve 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.760 between the older players and the younger players, and you know, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.680 because I just think it's like anything. If they can 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.960 get through once and the drills are similar, you know, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.080 they get to play a little faster. Uh so you 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:44.400 got to you know, you got to ramp up to 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:48.680 put your pads on. So the perimeter work is good. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.000 You know, we're doing the best we can. But um, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.320 you know, when we get into you know, really next 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:57.040 week Install three through eight, we gotta just we're gonna 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.920 we'll probably do a little more walk through teaching temple 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.400 there because just once again, just to stay within the 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.800 rules you're going to have even if they can getting 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:10.120 back to back scimmages, the thought process there. Yeah, definitely, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.200 um never I've never done this. This is it's a 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.520 bit of a it's a bit of a leap for 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.000 me personally, but I think, you know, we're doing it 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.280 for the right reasons. And I think it's a it's 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.080 an opportunity to work against two AFC teams. You know, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.280 you're on grass, you know all those things. You know, 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.360 I look at all those factors, always have um you know, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.320 it's an opportunity to go up to Denver before and 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.280 it's it's really risk assessment, a lot of it to 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:40.040 work certain players in a practice environment as opposed to 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.160 playing in the game. So I mean that that's the 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.679 driving force for me, and just talking to the other 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.679 two hey, coaches who have done this a lot. Um, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.560 I did it a lot in my earlier my career 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.319 in the nineties, you know, but you know, we we 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.560 had teams all around. So, um, I know the benefits 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.160 of it. But you know, it's just like anything. You know, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.600 we're going there to work, and in both all three 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.400 organizations recognize that. So you know, I'm not interesting any 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.000 of the other stuff that goes with it, so it'll 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.200 be quality work. And you know, Nathaniel and Brandon, we've 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:15.960 had those conversations. But I think it definitely is something different, Um, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.439 and I think it's good for you as a team. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.320 We talk so much about the connection of our team. Uh, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.040 you know we're talking about collection of talent. I think 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.720 talent's a dirty word. I think every team has talent, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.600 some have more than others. But um, you know, it's 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.680 going to take a lot more a lot more in 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.640 talent to win the championship. So I think these these 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.920 opportunities that you have a little bit of the unknown, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.320 a little more travel, you know, maybe a train ride 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.600 to don I Irvine, you know, those types of things. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.000 I think I think there's value and all that, but 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.000 most importantly, I think it gives us a chance to, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.760 you know, for our ones, you know, to really practice 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.720 against each other and and just lower the risk of 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.679 playing in the games. Is that like he're scrimmaging against 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.640 the teams you're playing increasing season games. Is the difference 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.800 in value just that you're not necessarily going to have 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.440 every player out there on the preseason game field. Well, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.560 I mean it's we're just like anything, you know, when 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.160 when they take when something's taken away from you, you 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.200 have to find a you know, a more efficient way 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.400 to to you know, utilize the time that you do have. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:20.800 And what I'm talking about if we still have a 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.679 ninety man roster. But you know, for example, that you're 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.360 you're able to go sixteen padded practices in training camp, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.960 and there's not a chance in hell that you can 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.000 get sixteen in without running your team in the dirt, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.600 you know, so you're going to probably come in somewhere 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.360 around eleven and twelve or thirteen if you're practicing. In 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.080 my opinion, the right way to make sure you have 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.559 the rest and recovery in there. So you know, twelve practices, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.760 I mean, just to give you a comparable, I mean 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.199 in the old days, and I mean you got to 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.280 get twelve. You get twelve padd of practices on the 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.280 first week, you know, so now you're going to the 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.440 whole training camp is twelve padded practice. So I mean, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.120 that's you know, that's that's probably the the negative of 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.000 being in the league a long time because you because 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.520 you know what, you know, you have a vision of 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.160 how you want your team to practice. You have a 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.200 vision how you want the team to play. More importantly, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.040 you have a vision how you want that team to 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.960 come out of training camp to start the season. So 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.480 and I'm not you know, I'm not here trying to 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.640 get thirty eight padded practices and training cast. That's not 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.360 the point. But I but I do recognize that, you know, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.680 I'm trying to maximize the time to get that done. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.160 So the ability to have high quality work in a 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.239 practice environment, you know, and to be honest with you, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.000 you know, once you get past that second week in 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.439 training camp, and I think any former player of former 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.160 coach would that go to this, I mean, you've already 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.560 gone through your installs. You know, the guys have been 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.280 competing against each other for two weeks. You know, it's 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.120 a it's a good change up, you know now. I 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.920 thought that, you know, the Rams practice last year, like 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.840 I like the practice that I didn't. I didn't really 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.040 like the timing of it, you know, business with the 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.240 Hall of Fame game and all that. But you know it's, uh, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.240 I can see why others do it, so we're gonna 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.000 give it a shot. That's a long answer, but you know, 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.000 I think that the key. I think it does give 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.160 you a good opportunity to risk, assess and and and 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.880 play your younger guys more in the preseason games. You 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.160 got three preseason games too. I think it was in 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.080 the situational period today where you left tackle the jump 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.640 to fall start and he was immediately to replace somebody else. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.920 Is that for to say it's part of your team's 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.120 emphasis on the limited those preestat penalties, you know, to 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.319 be honest with you, that's that's really the way I've 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.720 always done it. You know, anytime there was a pre 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.040 stap penalty for you know, ever how many years, you know, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:36.319 there's there's certain things um and not to blame everything 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:37.920 on a pandemic. Just like when we got here in 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.599 a pandemic, you know, we didn't have the time to 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.720 really have an offseason, Like the first time we lined 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.040 up was training camp, and I mean we just had 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.640 so many other challenges, so I really didn't institute that 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.440 right away. But that's just something that the way I've 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.640 always done it. And I understand why you're asking a 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.000 question because of our our penalty ranking last year. But yeah, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.480 it's it's definitely something that you know, once again reinforced, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.640 I mean, preest penalties. You definitely don't want them. You know, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.439 I can stand up for at an appropriate time to 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.360 talk about there's no excuse for it. But you know, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.160 Matt's that's his second practice, let's new acadence. There's a 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.719 lot of anticipation, so in in going off of what 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.920 I already talked about, you know, we're going to no 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.360 huddle day one now, you know, we're doing two weeks 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.000 to two minutes our first practice, so and we're putting 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.079 a lot on it, a lot more on these guys early. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.360 I think that's that will benefit us, you know, down 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.120 the road. So but yeah, that's that's that's a common practice. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.240 If you've ever been in one of my practices in 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.440 the past, you ever a guy like Marquispell, he's an 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.640 undrafted free agent and he's trying to make a name 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.599 for something. He makes an interception, he returns it for 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.559 whovis you know who knows a two scores in a 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.360 real situation, they're not playing well. I think there's a 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.280 lot of bonds are look good. It was a great 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.120 moment for you, going, yeah, that's a moment for him too, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.040 And just how important are those moments to just stand 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.959 out and do something to try and stand out to 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.960 the coaching staff. But no, I love your question because 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.000 you're making a great point there. And and he's and 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.640 he's and he's been impressive. I mean he's you know, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.040 he's he jumped out at the rookie in the rookie 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.679 camp um, so you know, he's, uh was was very 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.360 impressive in the zoom calls, you know, leading up the 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.199 coming in here, So that you know, to me, that's 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.280 all about young guys just keep stacking success and uh, 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.280 you know, and and then when I start making plays 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:24.080 like that too, that's that definitely helps. But hybrid kind yeah, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.960 a good point, and that's that's that's was part of 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.080 our attraction to him too. I think I think I 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.000 would you would. You've seen what we've done with JK, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.320 you know, and the ability for safeties, you know, to 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.840 play nickel and diamond, and he definitely has that ability 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.160 and that was part of the attraction. That was the 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.880 conversation we had to draft from too when we were 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.480 talking about him with that James Washington, we saw he 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.440 was in a boot today. Do you anticipated doing anything 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.840 in OTAs or mini camp or a long term I 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.520 know you want to work next week, but I can't 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.400 give you the specifics of that too. It's it's not 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.960 a serious, serious nature. I don't think. I'm not worried 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:02.880 long term. I'm hopeful he can go next week. I 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.600 know OTAs are involuntary. But any concern about Tyron, who 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.680 wasn't out there today? No, Actually Tyron was there all 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.320 day to day and then right before practice, which you 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.280 know hit. I think it's it's lower back was tightened up. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.320 So we just just played as smart Washington and tennant. Iis, 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.800 I don't have this a second diagnosis. I go there 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.160 at four o'clock. So if you guys are really interesting. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.640 So I didn't realize we haven't do we have injury reports, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.000 And I know it's been a while. I haven't been 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.320 up there in four years or three years, so I 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.080 didn't realize. Guys in Dallas are different, and I wasn't 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:42.400 expecting an injury report for it seemed like just just 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.360 talking to CD, he's embracing the idea of Ben a 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.960 number one in the game and half Antons game ten 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:56.320 pound muscle. Do you see that but him stepping up 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.120 and embracing his opportunity to beat the number one he 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:04.440 asked to Of course, yeah, I mean he's uh, he 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.720 looks great. Um, but yeah, this is this is a 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.520 great opportunity for him personally. And you know, and I 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.200 think just the way you know, we've established, you know, 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.840 with the what the offense, particularly the passing game, you know, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.360 the ability for those guys to play different positions to 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.400 you know, to create matchups and make it harder on 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.640 the defense to w and those types of things. And 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:24.680 you know him My point is, you know, him playing 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.840 in the slot a lot last year, and I'll playing 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:31.560 the flanker positions. So um, yes, and and we understand, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.400 you know, what was his rise, and you know in 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:35.880 year three that he's going to get a lot more 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.040 attention from the defense. But he's doing he's doing all 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.320 the little things that are needed to get him ready 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.920 for to be the number one guy. He said it 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.560 was Dak's request that human his lockering next to Dax. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.400 How much how important are those little things yet so 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.840 important And just the fact that you know Dak and 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.880 you know the leadership group or even thinking about that thing, 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.120 I think shows you that where we are in the 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.159 locker room. So and to me, the locker room, you know, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.480 connection and brotherhood and that's all part of the fiber 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.000 of winning a championship. So and and those things are happening. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.840 Uh and you know, and I think it's great. And 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.000 if I've a CD, I you know, I think you 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.960 definitely just look at your quarterback a little stronger that 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.240 way too. So I think it shows the connection that 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.400 is definitely needed, you know, between the receivers and a quarterback, 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.480 especially that in CD talking to Dalton, he said that 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.639 he's really emphasizing this offices in blocking and you know 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.200 you've talked about the run game and all that too. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.320 What what do you do with the tight end like that, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.640 how how do you focus on the becoming even better 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.439 in the run game. Well, I mean just I think 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.639 that's part of the evaluation, you know, topic that I 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.520 hit on earlier. I mean, we've had a chance to 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.560 look at it, and you know, it's definitely an area 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.920 where we feel like we can we can be better. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:55.920 And I'm not just talking about just the tight ends. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.280 I'm talking about you know, blocking the C gap and 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.879 D gap area. You know, just the building to to 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.720 you know, whether you capture the contain element and you know, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:07.840 regardless of what defense they line up, and you're seeing 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.440 a lot more five man spacing, you know five man 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.600 line where you know defenses are setting edges immediately by alignment, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.120 so you know the stress on the tight end position 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.240 or you know whether it's a back or you know, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.240 blocking at sea gap area is something that we need 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.600 to be better at. You know, it's it's been identified 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.560 and so I think that just shows you where Doulton's 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:37.960 focuses is. Usually for life Cyclert, He's a movement here here. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.800 I think Isaac has been just a steady year of 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:46.320 going up. I mean he has improved every single year. Um, 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.720 you know, I think in every aspect of his game. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.760 You know, I think you know, his first year, I 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.680 think he was just you know, kind of figuring it out. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.879 Then going into a second year, he changed his whole body. 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.240 I mean, if you're looking at him now, he's in 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.560 he's in tremendous shape. Uh. And Isaac is you know, 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.119 it's something that we preached to the rookies, and I 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.680 use him as an example sometimes where you know, there's 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.000 there's not too many weekends or or or off days 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.320 that you'll walk in here and not see Isaac. I 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:15.840 don't know if he's in here for the free food, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:20.000 but he's okay, but he's uh, he's but he's here 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:25.160 all the time. He's strangely professional. It's really important to him. Um. 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.359 And I think he's He's done a tremendous job in 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.160 developing each and every year. So I'm pretty proud of Isaac. Yes, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.560 such a different level of background with Pom and a 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.240 lot of the guys on the team. How many moments 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.520 do you have where just the way he sees something 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.720 or the questions he's asking reminds you as a coach 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.800 of the way you can teach it. Oh, I think 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.840