1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast as an intern named Lyle. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: room filled with heroes Chris Westling, Gregs and Mark Sesler. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: What up, boys' be Friday? Seduction Friday. It's good to 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: be in here with you, Dan and the rest of you. Mark. Mark. 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, Mary's seducing me with this flannel T shirt. 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Will spend up like its at like three fifty in 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: the morning, and I'm at a Cracker concert, total dark house. 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: Couldn't find clothing. I just grabbed the first like pieces 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: of cloth that I could that I grabbed, And that's 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: what this is. And you're wearing matching red pumps as well. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Got the red pumps. And for anyone that doesn't know 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: the Cracker reference, they were like the nickel back. Before 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: there was nickelback, nickel back up front, there were the 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: nickel backup grunge. I would say, it's so big Friday, 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: k Rich bardon the glass little angry. We got up 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to the studio late today, scalded us when we got 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: up here. Yeah, you know, you guys have to be 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: on time. I was up here waiting and waiting and waiting. 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: And I know our podcast listeners know that you guys 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: have to have this out by a certain time. They 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: pushed download as soon as I That falls on. Greggy's 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: our leader, and he deals with administrative things like that. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: When we don't show up, that's on Greg. It is Greg. 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: The only way redeem yourself. If if you say the 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Eagles will, I will say that. We all will say that. 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: I think I will. I will take responsibility, but and 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: I will say, you're right, the fans demand the podcast earlier. 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you. We've been getting 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: more responses lately that the page or what do we 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: call that, The downloads are going ways. You know, people 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: are listening. It is catching fire. So we appreciate it. 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: You know, give us the feedback, give us some stars. 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Tell your friends. Subscribe on multiple devices, how at that 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: including stitcher whatever stitcher is, just do it, just get it. 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what it is. It's 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: self aware. Possibly, I'm nervous about it. All right, So 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: why don't we start. We got all of the week 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: eleven games that we're gonna break down on the on 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Seduction Friday. But We'll start with the Thursday night football game, 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: the first game of week eleven, a thirty seven win 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colt to continue this I think kind 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: of amazing ride where they can't lose two games in 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: a row. In the Andrew Luck era, they fell behind big, 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: came back with two quick scores to take control of 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: the game, and now the Cults are doing okay. They 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: are seven and three, they're cruising in their division. Greg, 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. Were you impressed with the Colts? 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: I know they won, but were you impressed by them? Yes? 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Because that's all they need to do right now. I 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: think we can put them in the playoffs. You might 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: as well say the a f C South champions are 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: the Colts. They're not gonna blow a three team three 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: game lead with these other bad teams in the divisions. 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: Their three and oh on the road in their division. 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: So their next three division games are at home, and 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: it's not about how you're playing in mid November. I 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: think this team could be playing much better when they 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: get the January and they don't have to give any 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: of these wins back. I think they'll be there and 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: they're doing it with I think it's a surprise that 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: Donald Brown has emerged. Probably that's the guy they wanted 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: to phase out, and he comes on and he does 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: everything they thought they were gonna get from Tren Richardson. 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: It's not even a question anymore. Donald Brown is the 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: best running back in Indianapolis. If anybody that watches him, 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: or watch that game last night, he was slicing through 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the defense every time Richardson gets the ball. And maybe 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: it's bad luck because something it felt like Richardson Brown 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: was going six yards, five yards, nine yards. Richardson negative 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: to Brown six yards? What is this? So? I don't 73 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: know what to make of it. West Well I said 74 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: last night that pet Hamilton's finally found his uh old 75 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: school power rushing attack and it was behind the couch 76 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, in the little corner. I mean, 77 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: the biggest upset of the year is Westling has now 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: changed his feeling on the Colts somewhat because of Donald Brown. 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Who would have thought this guy has been buried so 80 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: many different times. Dan asked if we were if we 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: were impressed by the Colts last night. I was not 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: impressed by the Colts in the least. I was impressed 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: by Andrew Luck. There you go, that's fair. When everything 84 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: else breaks down around him, when he has no talent, 85 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: he finds a way to win games. And I know 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: smart fans don't want to hear that a certain player 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: is a winner, but Andrew Luck is flat out a winner. 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: That team hasn't drafted well, didn't draft well this year. 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: The pre agent signings were questionable. Basically, what they've done 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: is drafted Andrew Luck, and it's turned their franchise around. 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: And there's something to the fact that they come back 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: in all these games. They're not a great team, but 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I think they're a young, overachieving team. And the DNA 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: of the same team that beat the Seahawks and the 95 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: forty Niners and the Broncos is still in that room. 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I know Reggie Wayne's not, and that's why I still 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: give them a chance to get better. At the season 98 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: comeback stats on Andrew Luck our our mind blowing the 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: coolt to have eighteen wins since he got there. A 100 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: third of them have been when they were down by 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: twelve points or more. It is a team sport, thoughs 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: It's not just Andrew Luck, but his legs last night. 103 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: You defend that point that tell me he was on 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: that team is playing well. Besides, I think that's what 105 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: I feel about the Cults in general, is that look 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: at they've gone out and beaten teams no one thought 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: they would have beaten this season with what is a 108 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: lot of guys you probably your average fan couldn't even name. 109 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: And I agree with you, Andrew Luck is turning into 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: whatever our generation means the group of people that watch 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: football now a very special quarterback. He already is. But 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: I just refuse to say it's just him and the 113 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: rest of the team is you got to be unimpressive. 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: You've got to give Stanley Havili some credit. Luck is 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: number onepressive. Let's let me say one thing West. You 116 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: said on Wednesday that, um, they need somebody to step 117 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: up and fill that void. One guy who I asked 118 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: me yesterday was Kobe Fleiner. Um. He's been a little 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: quiet since he's coming to the league, but last year 120 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: yesterday he had he went over a hundred yards. He 121 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: has really good hands, he has chemistry with Luck. Maybe 122 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: they can turn that into something they could build off 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: because he would be a much needed second option to Hilton. 124 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: My Yeah, My point was they needed a player who 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: can beat man coverage or he can make plays in traffic. 126 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: I don't think Kobe Fleaner's that guy. They missed Dwayne 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Allen in that. But what codey Kobe Fleaner is if 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you have Donald Brown giving you a rushing attack and 129 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: you can use play action, then you can get Kobe 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Fleaner open that way and he can make plays after 131 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: the catch. He's got like four or five four or 132 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: six speed. We saw that last night. I think if 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: Donald Brown stays the runner ahead of Trent Richardson, and 134 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: we'll see, because they swear that they would make that 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: trade all over again. But if Donald Brown stays the runner, 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: that helps the running game and Kobe Fleaner, I think 137 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: if they make that trade again, they're doubly stupid. What 138 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: are you gonna say, Yeah, I don't. I don't think 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: it was a stupid trade at the time. Now it 140 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: looks really bad and it doesn't seem like it's gonna 141 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: get any better. Even when they tried to get him 142 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: involved in the passing game richards in early yesterday and 143 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: everything again, it was like four yards cloud of dust 144 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: type stuff. It just not It doesn't look explosive as 145 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: a player. I will say if Brown stays in there, 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: I do like this team's playoff chance is a lot 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: better than making the playoffs. Wa yeah, I mean I 148 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: conceded by the end of last game that they were 149 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: going to be the end of the last night's game 150 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: that they're in the playoffs, right, But I think this 151 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: gives them a chance to actually win a game in 152 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs now, all right, So let's move on to 153 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: the rest of Sunday. Uh Week eleven's games will start 154 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: with the big games on Sunday, And there were three 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: that we circled and we kind of liked how they looked. 156 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: And there's no way around it. The game of the 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: week is the nine and oh Kansas City Chiefs going 158 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: to Denver to face the eight and one Broncos. Peyton 159 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Man is gonna play in this game. Game, Um, who 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: knows if he'll be limited, but West, do you see 161 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs finally going down this season? I do, And 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: I think you know that's not to say they don't 163 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: have a chance. I think we've uh we saw this 164 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: morning what Andy Reid's record was coming off buys, it's 165 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. The Chiefs have a great defense. 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they can keep up with 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: the Broncos team that is twenty more touchdowns than every 168 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: other team in the NFC. Half the teams in the 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: NFC don't even have twenty touchdowns. Yeah, I think with 170 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City, it's like they've had the easiest strength of 171 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: schedule of any team in the league this year, and 172 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: they've played a rash of you rookie or inexperienced quarterbacks 173 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: and all along. I mean, when we knew that they 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: were the record was getting better better. This was the 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: week that you looked at and said, we don't take 176 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: you seriously until you go out and do it against 177 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what Denver's record is. You gotta do 178 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: it against Peyton Manning. But listen, it is one of 179 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: those great matchups because the Chiefs are allowing like a 180 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: league low in terms of quarterback passer rating, and then 181 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: you've got this outrageous Broncos team coming in. I want 182 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: to see what happens. But which Chiefs defense is it? Is? Is? It? 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Is it the Chiefs defense from the first six weeks, 184 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: because I think you can put a line of demarcation 185 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: when they played the Texans case Keena moved the ball 186 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: on them. The Browns, they were not a dominant defense. 187 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: They didn't touch the quarterback. They literally did not touch 188 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Toole in that game in Buffalo. Not a quarterback hit, 189 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: not a sack. So are they the dominant great Chiefs 190 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: defense from the first six weeks? Are they just kind 191 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: of the okay defense that we saw the last three 192 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: It's a good question because Peyton Manning has been hit 193 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: so much lately too, and that that would be the 194 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: way the Chiefs win the game, is to get to 195 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and well, and they said today they were 196 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, but they have those exact quotes. We want 197 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: to get to him, We want to make him feel 198 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: as straight. Isn't every team that's going up against Peyton 199 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Manning ever tried that same exact thing. It's there's no 200 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: harder quarterback to hit. But it's working the last three 201 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: weeks in a way that I can't remember. Mann Manning 202 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: has been so good over the years that he takes 203 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: like two big hits a season and he's taken about 204 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: two or three a game the last three weeks. Even 205 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: against and Diego, who does not have a good pass rush, 206 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: they got some pretty good shots on him. I think 207 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Chris Clark has been okay filling in for Ryan Claydy, 208 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: but he's allowed three strip sex in half the season. 209 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: My other thing with this game is I talked to 210 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Defense is different now, but potentially than it 211 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: was in September. I mean, the Broncos defense is so 212 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: different with Miller and Woodyard out there together. They've played 213 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: much better the last two weeks. Miller is a great 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: run stopper, Woodyard is one of the best coverage linebackers 215 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: in the league. So you put those two guys back 216 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: on the field, they're in much different defense than they 217 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: were early. This reminds me a little bit of when 218 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Kansas City went in to play the Eagles and everyone thought, oh, 219 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: we we've just seen this Eagles team, and obviously that 220 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: offense is for real in Philadelphia. We're seeing that Kansas 221 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: City found a way to completely control the pace of 222 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: that game. They're gonna have to do the same. If 223 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: they get down fourteen nothing or seventeen nothing out of 224 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: the gate, what does Kansas City do on offense to 225 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: come back into it, Because we've seen no evidence they 226 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: can climb back into a game that's good. I haven't 227 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: had to face that situation yet, and I think that's 228 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: what everybody questions about, that they need to have Charles 229 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: just have a monster game, And which is possible? I 230 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: think it's possible. Possible, But the Broncos are very good 231 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: against the run. Alright, moving on, and we all picked 232 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos, by the way, but no one, no one 233 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: went for the Chiefs right five and out. And if 234 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: you do want to see our picks, that's on the 235 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Around the League blog page. Just find it, Google it. 236 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: It's the only chance you got, all right. The other 237 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: big game of day, I actually, I actually like this. 238 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: This is my favorite game. The Niners. Um coming off 239 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: that tough loss to the Panthers, they now travel to 240 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: the Superdome to face the Saints team coming off that 241 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: historic performance against the Cowboys in prime time. UM, this 242 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: will be the Fox game of the week. Joe Buck's 243 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: excited about it, so am I. Mark. How do you 244 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: see this one playing out? I'm with you, damn This, 245 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: This to me is the one that if I find 246 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: most interesting this week. You know, I think, if, if, 247 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: if all that bounty gate stuff hadn't happened, this could 248 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: have been last year's NFC Championship, and I'm excited to 249 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: see what San Francisco's defense, which you know since Week four, 250 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: that Rams game, when I think they started to turn 251 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: a corner a little bit. They've allowed eleven point eight 252 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: points per game, much stingier. But then they go in 253 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: and they have to deal with Drew Brees, who's thrown 254 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns at home, which is more than twenty four 255 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: other teams have done anywhere all season. I'm I think 256 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: anyone who picks the Saints to lose at home right 257 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: now is completely insane and should be put into an institution, 258 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: into an institution, throw away the key, one of those 259 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: crude institution institutions already bubbling with too many characters. Any 260 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: kind of institution mental one, a crude mental institute. My 261 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: wife went to the Institute of Culinary Education with that count. 262 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: That would not count. I'm talking about the ones run 263 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: by nuns. And you know it's very it's very cruel. 264 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: You deserve punishment for picking against the Saints, Am I right? Less? Yes, 265 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: the numbers with Drew Brees are are crazy in terms 266 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: of the home road splits. I think he's eighteen touchdowns 267 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: two in exceptions at home, and he's seven and five 268 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: on the road. They're a completely different team, and they're 269 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: completely different defense, because that is still as great as 270 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: Seattle is. The loudest crowd in the league is still 271 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: in New Orleans because they have the dome helping them out. 272 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: And how is Sam fran going to move the ball? 273 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: They just released the starting receiver Kyle Williams. Fans Bolden 274 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: runs routes that are seven yards deep. They don't have 275 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: a deep threat in the least. I don't is Vernon 276 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Davis playing. I think Vernon Davis will play, but we 277 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: don't know as we're taping this right and we know 278 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: when when he's not on the field, Kaepernick's production drops up. 279 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Cliff I thought. Peter King wrote put it well on 280 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: his Monday Morning Quarterback. He said, I don't even know 281 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: who you are anymore, Colin Kaepernick. He just he's not 282 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: the same guy that has a lot to do with 283 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: the the weapons that he's dealing with until he gets 284 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: crab crab cheet back, until he has Vernon David's healthy, um, 285 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, Mario Manningham, until he can give them something. 286 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: This might be a case where they're gonna struggle and 287 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: move the ball, and they're not gonna win a shootout 288 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. That's why. That's why I don't like 289 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: their chances. You could see them scoring, don't you. You 290 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: can see them scoring like Frank Gore, you know, But 291 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't see them keeping up with the Saints. 292 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: I think we're given. I love bat Santa and everything 293 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: that he's done in New Orleans, but I still think 294 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: about Michael Lombardi's old phrase battleship football, which is that 295 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: some weeks, the numbers that Rob Ryan's putting up befour blocks, 296 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, C two. Sometimes that works and they look great, 297 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: like they did against Dallas. But other weeks, Chris Ivory 298 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: can make them look like punks and there, and I 299 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: think a team could run on them and score plenty 300 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: of points. And I think whether Vernon Davis plays is 301 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: a huge factor. They're a different team with him in 302 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: the lineup. And regarding your point on Peter King and 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: how Kaepernicks plain, are we saying that he might not 304 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: become the greatest quarterback in NFL history? It's possible. Again, 305 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: that was George He said it, and then a bunch 306 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: of people jumped right on that bandwagon and said, oh yeah, 307 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: why wouldn't he become the greatest quarterback? He said he 308 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: had the tools to potentially have it all, which I 309 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: see what he was saying. It got twisted that every 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: segment of every show they produced for football in September 311 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: have made like outrageous predictions that looked out completely foolish 312 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: by November. That's what I'm saying. Apundance fall short. By 313 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: the way, we were talking about mark shirt, which is 314 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: very rugged and grungy. Look at Chris Westling over here. 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: This is a new Westling shirt. This is a plant 316 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: plaid flannel. K Rich, can you give a description of 317 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: what Wes is wearing today? Yeah, he's wearing it looks 318 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: like a plaid it almost from a distance, looks like 319 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: a gene kind of. I think it's like, Hey, I 320 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: just got in town to Austin for south by Southwest. 321 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: Who's ready to party? That's to drink some PBRs and 322 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: grow a mustache. Just to set the record stright, this 323 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: is not a denim shirt, all right, well, listeners peeling 324 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: off by the minute. This is not a Canadian tuxedo, 325 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: all right? And that takes us to our third big game. 326 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Of the week. These are three killer games. Are very 327 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: excited about this the New England Patriots, Gregg's New England Patriots. 328 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: His boys now travel to Carolina to face the hottest 329 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: team in football. The Panthers roll in five game winning 330 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: stream coming off one of the defining wins v defining 331 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: win of the Ron Rivera era. But not a lot 332 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: of choices. Greg, how nervous are you as a Patriots 333 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: fan to be running into this juggernaut at this stage 334 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: of the season. Well, I consider the Patriots slight underdogs 335 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: in this game. The way Carolina is playing, I think 336 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: they've been a better team this season than the Patriots. 337 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: But these are the types of games Patriots tend to 338 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: play better than people expect. And we're split on this game, 339 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: and I think that makes sense. We all picked the Saints. 340 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: No one disagreed with that, but Dan and I both 341 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: picked the Patriots in this game, and I think it's 342 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: because their defense is better. I think Cam Newton and 343 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: the Panthers offense is good, but I don't think they're 344 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna put up twenty five points. Uh. They're not playing 345 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: great right now. And the question I think for all 346 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots fans is the offense that we saw before 347 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: the bye against Pittsburgh a sign that they're gonna get 348 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: it together. Because I think we're gonna get Shane Vereen 349 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: back in this game, and Stephen Ridley was looking great 350 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: as the lead back. On Kowski and Aim and dol 351 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: are healthy, this could be a different Patriots offense. It's 352 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: definitely the toughest test for them all when since Gron 353 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: came back there averaging fifteen point five more points per game, 354 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: they've got there there at I believe he did. It 355 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: was really that one game though, because the first two 356 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: games other than that, yeah, they were okay. But I 357 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: think I think he makes a big I like the 358 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: trend this week, though. Let's listen up. What do you 359 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: guys think about this trend? I just noticed while we're talking, 360 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: the three big quarterbacks of the era, Manning, Breeze, and 361 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: Brady in the three big games against maybe the three 362 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: best defenses in the league. The Chiefs forty are in 363 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the mix at least, and the Panthers, so it's like 364 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: a test for these three great quarterbacks. That's good point, Greg. 365 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: I like that, but I like it as well. Thank 366 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: you guys, But I disagree, but I disagree that the 367 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: Patriots have a chance because of their defense. I'm not 368 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: impressed by their defense at all. They get run on 369 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: every week. I think they're one of the worst run 370 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: defenses in the NFL. I think the Patriots with Gronkowski, 371 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Verene and Mandola, it is their offense that scares me, 372 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: if I mean, I expect the Panthers to get heat 373 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: on Tom Brady, but I'm sure that the Patriots have 374 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: spent their bye week in the extra week preparing for 375 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: that pass rush. We'll see, Greg you I think. I 376 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: think Greg you hit it on the nail um when 377 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: you said that the reason why the Patriots are gonna 378 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: win this game is because this is the exact setup 379 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: where everyone kind of sleeps on the Patriots a little 380 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: bit and they and everyone's pumped up, and rightfully so 381 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: with the Panthers. They're playing great. They had a big 382 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: win on Sunday, but this is the game, especially they're 383 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: coming off a bye, right Bill, coming off a bye, 384 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: you had two weeks to repair a little bit of 385 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 1: nobody believes believes in his card working. This is just 386 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: everything set up. The Patriots win eleven or twelve or 387 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: thirteen games every year, so they're gonna get the wins. 388 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: This is just all set up for me, and that's 389 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: why I picked him, even though I'm rooting again. If 390 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: belichick strength is that he takes away you're one best 391 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: player on offense. Who does he take away from the 392 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: Panthers Cam running? I think just really limiting Cam from 393 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: moving outside the pot. That would make sense because his 394 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: passing even last week, I thought he was awful in 395 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: that game that they want either that or Carolina's punter. 396 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Very dangerous, very dangerous. You know what you're supposed to do. 397 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: You just defend your hero. It's very strange whenever Henry 398 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: has that tone, that nasty tone, because Henry who handles 399 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: our defend your hero vocals, he does vox for that 400 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: usually very dignify side and proper in the office. Then 401 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: you hear that little edge his voice gets you scared. 402 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: He's an affable fellow. It makes me tense, it does, 403 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: doesn't it. It's a change. You know, we went from 404 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: the big games and now we're just going to defending 405 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: our hero picks. Well, yes, this is the defend your 406 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: hero segment where uh we go over the games in 407 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: which only one of us picked a certain team. And 408 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: now we will throw it to that person to explain 409 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: why they chose that team, and will start with Greg Rosenthal, 410 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: who took the Buffalo Bills at home to take down 411 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: my beloved New York Jets. Uh, my New York Jets 412 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: now with Ed Reid in the fold ed at Patriots. Uh, Greg, 413 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: defend your hero. Well, it's not hard to defend. I mean, 414 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: how many how many times do we have to watch 415 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: the Jets put up a stink bomb after they had 416 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: a win. They haven't won two straight games all year. 417 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: I think we're under this assumption that they're suddenly the 418 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: heavy favorites for a playoffs. But may I remind you 419 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: this is a team that law by twenty five points 420 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. They weren't competitive against the Steelers, they lost 421 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: by against the Bengals. This is a team that's gotten 422 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: blown out essentially three different times this year, and they're 423 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: going on the road. The Bills have been very good 424 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: at home. I think it's a coin flip game, so 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking the home team. Two things. Number one, I 426 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think anyone calls the Jets a heavy favorite that 427 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: I read your I read your article up on NFL 428 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Who's you know, gonna make the playoffs side 429 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: of the a f C. And you guys are feeling 430 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: the Jet I believe I actually wrote they were the 431 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: plausible favorite. But you know, I think I think you're right. 432 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: I think with the Jets, they haven't won two games 433 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: in a row, but they did have a by last week, 434 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: and when you think about the bye, how that can 435 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: mess with this whole ecosystem of win loss, win loss. 436 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: I think that's enough. That's my reason they have a 437 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: losing record under Rex after the by. I'm buying any 438 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: reason that begins and ends with the ecosystem to be 439 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: This is a matchup two of like which rookie ter 440 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: back could possibly do less. That's what I think got 441 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: lost in that Saints win is that Gino has had 442 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: two terrible games in a row. So he's not making 443 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: progress in his rookie year. He's getting worse. He played 444 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: terrible against Cincinnati and he might have been even worse 445 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: against the Saints. One thing hands against the Saints, but 446 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: this he threw the ball. When he threw the ball, 447 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: he missed throws they asked him to make. But this 448 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: Ryan's done something similar before with a team that had 449 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: major holes at the quarterback position. In terms of against 450 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: New Orleans, they run for a hundred and ninety eight 451 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: yards and play outstanding defense. That's the recipe to knock 452 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: off the Bills and win more than two and or 453 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: three in a row. Their defense is legit. I mean, 454 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: they're shutting other running teams down from scratch. And Gino's defense, 455 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm far from as big as fan, but 456 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: he has made plays down the field. He has won 457 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: games for them. E J Manuel has not totally agree 458 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: and e J Manuel has been a check down machine. 459 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: He's not taking chances down the field. And Robert Woods 460 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: and Steve Johnson are both out for this game. So 461 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: the recipe and the reason why I picked them too 462 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: is just counting on the Bills defense and they're great 463 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: defensive line to really just dominate the game. That's their 464 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: only chance. And then I would give two rather reasons 465 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: why the Jets are a good pick. You say they 466 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: the Bills are missing those receivers. The Jets get back 467 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: Antonio Holmes and Kellen Winslow this week. And also, I 468 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: think we agreed earlier this week that e J Manuel's 469 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: worst game of the season was his last game back 470 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: from injury. His worst game before that was against Rex 471 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Ryan's defense, where he really looked frazzled, and he really 472 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: it didn't seem like he was confident at all trying 473 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: to deal with what Rex was throwing at him. So 474 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. But while we're on the top of 475 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: the Jets, can we just touch on the Ed Reid 476 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: signing real quick? I'm curious what you guys think. Is 477 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: this going to make any type of difference or is 478 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: it more about the name than the actual product that 479 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna put out there. I think it's about the 480 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: name primarily. I like it. I think it's interesting. I 481 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: like him reunited with Rex Ryan. It seemed like the 482 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: right place for him to go to get playing time. 483 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: But I don't think it makes a big difference as 484 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: far as wins and loss is the rest of the way. 485 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: I think if New England had signed Read, which they 486 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: were interested in, theory that it's the kind of player 487 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: that could have been cut a couple of weeks from now. 488 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Reid is a difference maker, but I 489 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: do think that going to New York working with Rex Ryan, 490 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: he can squeeze something out of him. I agree with 491 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: what it's interesting. I'm yeah, I'm happy to have ed 492 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: Reid on a team that is in the mix and 493 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: he can say whatever he wants. There's gonna be an 494 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: ed Read controversy between now and the end of the season. 495 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: I just we just don't know what it is. And 496 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: it was such a to me. The reason I love 497 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: to move just because it's exciting as a Jets fan, 498 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: but also if he makes even one play, it's it's 499 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of worth it. I mean, they're they've not been 500 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: good against the deep ball this year, which has not 501 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: been something Rex Is dealt with in the past. If 502 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: he can make some plays in center field, who knows. 503 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: If not, they have three other guys that they like. Um. 504 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: All right, we'll move on to our second hero pick 505 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: Um this one. This is a bit of a Homer 506 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: pick potentially, but I don't have any problem with homer picks. 507 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Uh, this is the Cleveland Browns. This is 508 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: their big shot to make a a mint, to turn 509 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: the a f C North upside down. Mark likes the 510 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns to take down the Cincinnati Bengals. The rest 511 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: of the group thinks that the Bengals will win. Mark 512 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: defend your hero. I will defend it by saying that 513 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: I went back and watched that first Browns Bengals game. 514 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: And it's one thing if that company time, it was 515 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: on personal time, all right, lots of personal time. Wait, 516 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be okay? Not except just simply watching sport 517 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: we're supposed to cover. I like what Cleveland's defense did 518 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: against Andy Dalton. It's the same defense, you know. And 519 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: in terms of Jason Campbell, he's one of three quarterbacks 520 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: in the league right now that have thrown touchdowns and 521 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: no picks. You got Folds, who's got what sixteen? Keenom's 522 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: got seven to zero and Campbell five to zero. No, 523 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't expect that to continue. But that's weird. Let 524 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: me tell you something that's three league No. No, he 525 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: shows me something because Cleveland is not far with a 526 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: strain of hamstring stretching hard right now. They're not far 527 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: away when they get competent quarterback play. And it makes 528 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: me and this, you know, And as West was saying 529 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: all along, it's infuriating that they gave weed In as 530 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: much time as they did to come back in even 531 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: after Hoyer, because all they need is someone who can 532 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: move the ball without cause head spinning errors occurring. This 533 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: is a tough one for the Browns. They haven't split 534 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: with they haven't they haven't beaten the Bengals twice in 535 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: the season and eleven years. I think it's going to 536 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: happen this weekend. It reminds me of the old Bears 537 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: teams from Lovely Smith oh six oh seven, when that 538 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: when they had the best defense and special teams in 539 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: the league, and they were wasting opportunities on Rex Grossman, 540 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: who would just give the ball here, take the ball, 541 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't want it. You need a quarterback who can 542 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: take care of the ball, manage the game. And Campbell 543 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: does that. He's doing for the Browns what Alex Smith 544 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: does for the Chief. Does the other shoe drop though, 545 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: because I think we're all kind of like, wait, what, 546 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell isn't a mild disaster or extreme vanilla. He's 547 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: been good. I bar we sur eyes by that. I am. 548 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: I thought he had a chance to be the Browns 549 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: best quarterback, So I'm not surprised by that, but I 550 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: am surprised he's playing as well as he's playing. How 551 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: about the guy in the row of our cubicles? That's 552 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, and as you put it, he was 553 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: wicked dismissive of the Browns having any chance to compete 554 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: on We could casually dismiss absolutely not this. There's no 555 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: I don't even need to watch this game. Then this 556 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: is a rare hero pick that I'm rooting for the 557 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: hero because you look, you've already lost one hero pick 558 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: this week, so then I'm way out of it in 559 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: the standards. You're a little far behind Mark a hero 560 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: on the Titans. But how much more interesting will this 561 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: division race be? If the Browns can get this win, 562 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: then it's like everyone's alive. The Bengals are in free fall. 563 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Everyone loves piling on and adalt and it could be 564 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. There's no question I'm picking against 565 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: the band. I'm rooting against the Bengals. I'm rooting for 566 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: Mark here. Yeah, Mark and I um, we're starting to 567 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: get potentially, especially if the Cleveland wins this week, of 568 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: being in that weird spot where instead of kind of 569 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: rooting for our Jets and Browns for each other, we're 570 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to turn on each each other like rabid dogs. 571 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: And it does. Greg had promised us just want the 572 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: listeners to know that if if Cleveland plays New York 573 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: waited deep in the season here that if there is 574 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: a meaningful football, he was gonna fly us to the 575 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Big Apple net Jets. Do you know what net jets is? 576 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: That's like a private plane that you that you partially own. 577 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my private plane. I think it's 578 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: more like we'll do a share of ride where you 579 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: put a thing up on a bulletin board in a 580 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: campus and we get like a car trip to New 581 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: York somewhere across That's how you first moved that here, right, 582 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: something like not too far from it. Alright, so let's 583 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: move on to the rest of the games. We will 584 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: start with the Baltimore Ravens, coming off that game that 585 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: they really needed, beating the Bengals at the at the Gun. 586 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: They now travel to Chicago to face a Bears team 587 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: without Ja Cutler, of course, but they've managed well without him, 588 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: um for the most part. Greg the Ravens they need 589 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: this game as well. They need to start stringing some 590 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: wins together. Are they're going to do it on the road. 591 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: I took the Ravens in this game, three of us did. 592 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick our Chicago correspondent Mark, You also chose the Ravens, 593 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's a coin flip type of game. 594 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: I think Josh McCown's played well this season, but he 595 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: hasn't played a defense is good. Elvis Dumerville is playing 596 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: really well. No one's talking about him. I like this 597 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: Ravens defense in general. I think they're gonna start getting 598 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: Bernard Pierced the ball more as their primary back, hopefully 599 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: a little less of Ray Rice. And this is the 600 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: matchup of which could be worse, the Bears rushed defense 601 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: or the Ravens running attack. And I think maybe this 602 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: is one of the weeks where they can actually get 603 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: some some yards on the ground Baltimore. So they're going 604 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: to replace two point seven Ray Rice with two point 605 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: eight Bernard Piers. He ran better last week movement on 606 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: his six carries. Is it fair to say that he 607 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: ran He had some nice runs in that game. Yeah, 608 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: he's rum better than Ray Rice all year. But they 609 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Because explains why Bernard Pierce was 610 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: so high in my preseason running back rankings. Thank you. 611 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd be boasting about a guy 612 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: a verging lifting readers, spare yourself. Do not go read 613 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: that article. Why why do you take the Bears West? 614 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: Because the Ravens can't move the ball? I won't pick 615 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: against anything that can't move the ball at all. They 616 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: have no passing game, they have no running game, they 617 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: have no offense. Couldn't they against Chicago, who, by the way, 618 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: who lost Charles Tillman for the season. They still have 619 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: Chris Conti, which is like playing with ten people on 620 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: defense every week. It's a terrible defense. Right now, Chris 621 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Conte had a good game last week. He he also 622 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: gave up big But even in his good games where 623 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: he makes a couple of big plays, he gives up. 624 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: The question is could the Ravens move the ball? Yes, 625 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: they could. I would bet against it because I haven't 626 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: seen it all year. All right, let's move on. Actually, 627 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: before we move on, I just want to notice I 628 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: was looking at our our week eleven picks on the 629 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: on the website, and West came in last this week. 630 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: So he had to write the intro, just a fiery intro, 631 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: but blamed the pigs. Kim for me, Lucy, let me 632 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: quote the last two paragraphs of this. I did my part. 633 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: The teams I backed, just couldn't close the deal. In 634 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: other words, there will be no change in my mythology 635 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: this week. Methodology methodology this week, I'm going with my gut. 636 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: To do otherwise would go against everything I've learned about 637 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: football over the past three decades. Chris Wesling fired up. Yeah, 638 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: I did part. Look at the games I lost. Four 639 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: teams lost by a composal a combined total of nine points, 640 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: and the Dolphin, the Redskins blue late leads. I did part. 641 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Your part is to pick winners. I did. And then 642 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: the senses that fork coming for him and he's getting Nancy. Nancy. 643 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not happy about this. All right, let's move on. 644 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of winners, these are not winners. These are two 645 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: teams that have not one enough. Oh, the Oakland Raiders, 646 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: West's Oakland Raiders. Uh, this is a big four. This 647 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: is a Big West softball pants scenario. West, of course, 648 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: will eat his own softball pants. Of the Raiders win. 649 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: Six games are more of this season, and they are 650 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: now three and six, so this is a big one. 651 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: They now travel to Houston to face a Texans team, 652 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: another West favorite. Wow, this is a this is like 653 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: the West Bowl. Raiders at Texans. The two and seven 654 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: Texans rising riding a two game a seven game losing 655 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: streak West. I mean, there's a lot of conflicted emotions 656 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: on this one. I'm sure I would say this is 657 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 1: the safest I've felt about my softball pants since probably 658 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: in two months. Terrell Prior took half the first team 659 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: reps yesterday split with Matt mcloyin. Even if Prior plays, 660 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like his running will be as much 661 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: as a factor playing with a knee injury. So I 662 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: really like the Texans in this game. The Prior isn't 663 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: playing well regardless, Raiders are kind of they're not playing well. 664 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: I like, uh, I like the case keenom factor here. 665 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: Of course, I once got a forty on a math 666 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: state exam, so I will um not claim to be 667 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: good at math. But if, if, if, if the Raiders 668 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: lose this game, they will have to go three and 669 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: three down the stretch for West to eat a softball 670 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 1: pants and I I I am not confident that they 671 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: will play five ball if they can't win this game. Yeah, 672 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I think the concept of West eating a massive amount 673 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: of white fabric that's been used on a sports field 674 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. I just want to see Matt 675 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: mcgloyin versus case Keenum. That would be exciting. That would 676 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: be I mean, as as Westling can tell you, the 677 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: Texans are the greatest team in NFL history to be 678 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: on a seven game losing streak. What a squad. I mean, 679 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: just get them ready for the Super Bowl this year. 680 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: West seamless, seamlessly shifts into a career as a Texans 681 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: pr man. I have to salvage that damaged Dan did 682 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: in preseason. Dan, by the way, who said they would 683 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: be eight And I'm gonna get that wrong. You're gonna 684 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: get it wrong. And it's shocking. Why because I haven't 685 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: gotten a call from that radio station though they they 686 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: us to be catatonic right now, um because they literally 687 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: the way they talked. They talked to me like I 688 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: was a moron. Because that was a descending to an 689 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: NFL dot com writer for being way too generous. Frankly, anyway, 690 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: let's move forward, uh Mark. The Arizona Cardinals now get 691 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: a road game against the Jackson The Cardinals schedules pretty 692 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: nice right now. They're now going on the road to 693 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: face the Jaguars and Jaguars, of course, one last week, 694 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna get too excited about that. Cardinals 695 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: have a really good chance to be six and four 696 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: and right in the middle of the NFC playoff race 697 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: unless they mess this up. Mark, Will they mess it 698 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: up and loose the Jaguars on the road. You know 699 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: they will not, because Jacksonville is not maybe going to 700 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: be the easy out they were for the first eight weeks. 701 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: I could see them being a little bit stinger, a 702 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: little bit tougher. They showed some grit against the Titans, 703 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: but Arizona's defense is honestly one of the better around. 704 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think that they're five and four 705 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: records and Mirage six and fours where about I'd put him. 706 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: The The X factor, of course, is Carson Palmer, but 707 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't know he He could play a poor game 708 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: that he's done many times before and it probably wouldn't 709 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: be enough to sink the Cardinals. I'm going Arizona Bruce 710 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Arians might have to win Coach of the Year again. 711 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Palmer's got twelve touchdowns, fifteen interceptions and four 712 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: last bumbles and they're and they're staring at a six 713 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: and four I don't know how that happens. No one 714 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: has anything to say about the Jaguars. We're done with. 715 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: They credit Gus Bradley. They came out and they laid 716 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the wood on the Titans last week. They were hitting hard. 717 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: It was the hardest I've seen Maurice Jones Drew run 718 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: all year. I just don't know if they can channel 719 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: that energy for a second straight game against a team 720 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals team. Like you said, the defense is one of 721 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: the four or five best in the NFL. I don't 722 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: know what the numbers say, but when you watch him 723 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: play there, they swarm there everywhere. And when you talk 724 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: about taking away a team's best player, I don't even 725 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: know who that is for Jacksonville right now. Because no, 726 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be condescending, but you take you 727 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: take black men out of the mix? Is it shorts? 728 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 1: But shorts? Is you know? They did it as as 729 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: a strange effort between a bunch of guys last week. 730 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: I don't see what happening. All right, let's move on 731 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: this for me. This next game was one of the 732 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: tougher games of the week to pick. But I think 733 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: all of us agreed that the Washington Redskins in losing 734 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: that game last week on the road, a game they needed, 735 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: a game they had a big lead that they cannot 736 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: be taken seriously anymore. They are facing the Philadelphia Eagles 737 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: this week, who are playing well. Um, it's in Philadelphia, 738 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: so Redskins, Eagles, and the Redskins will be done if 739 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: they lose this game. Greg, are the Eagles gonna stick 740 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: a fork in the Skins? I think they will. We 741 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: all think they will. I was surprised that we all 742 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: went with them. I think you picked them to win 743 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: the NFC East, rang and hung with the Redskins all 744 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: season waiting for them to turn around. When I when 745 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: they blew that game at the Metrodome, Metrodome, I couldn't 746 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: do it anymore. I've picked against the Redskins every single 747 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: week this season, so I've gone six and three picking 748 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: the Redskins. When when fans say that, oh, you guys 749 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: hate our team, you know, usually they're on. But I 750 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: think I really do hate the Redskins for some reason. 751 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why. The Shanahans and the defense and uh, 752 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: this Eagle's offense. We can stop debating about Chip Kelly. 753 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: This year, they have sixty one plays over twenty yards. 754 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: That leads the NFL and explosive place. The next closest 755 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: team is the Broncos with forty five. So no one 756 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: is even close to as an explosive and offense as 757 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles. And they're played a terrible defense this week, 758 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: and if they're as good as as the numbers say, 759 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: they should put up thirty. I've got another mind blowing 760 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: stat on Chip Kelly's offense. So Oregon is still running 761 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: his offense under their new head coach. The starting quarterback 762 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: for Oregon and the starting quarterback for the Eagles have 763 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: a combined thirty eight touchdowns and zero interceptions. Hello, and 764 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: a few sniveling dopes on Twitter? Well, how am I 765 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: Mike Vick? Did you forget about him? Okay, so forty 766 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and three interceptions if you conclude those and 767 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: forget the victim because it's like the sniveling dopes. Yes, 768 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: Kelly doesn't even have the guys he wants at this point, right, 769 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: He's just plugged in what he inherited. For the most part, 770 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: it hasn't been impressed to the Two key players behind 771 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: Lashan McCoy are Fowls and Riley Cooper. I mean, these 772 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: are guys not the rest of the NFL is not 773 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: clamoring over before the season. Riley Cooper is more of 774 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: a key guy than DeShawn The last month, he's been 775 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: a huge factor in them winning games. Yeah. One thing 776 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: we talked about the news from real quick. The Eagles 777 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: and five at home, the only the only the second 778 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: team in history to be over five hundred and week 779 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: ten without a home win. The only other team the 780 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: glorious nineteen twenty six Los Angeles Buccaneers, one of Dan's 781 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: favorite teams. They're up there with the Miami Seahawks. Wow. Alright. 782 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: Moving forward, the Detroit Lions head to Pittsburgh to face 783 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers. NFL network is on some type of campaign. 784 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: Are reporters have really hit this story hard about in 785 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger um perhaps having some issues within the building wanting 786 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: to be traded now they have issues about the work ethic. 787 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: So first of all, I asked, is it possible before 788 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: we even get to the game this Ben Roethlisberger? Think? 789 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: Can we just touch on this real quick? The Steelers 790 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: would be completely insane to ever trade him, right, Nothing's impossible. 791 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: I think it's a little crazy. But if they had 792 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback that they really believed in, and they 793 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: really do have those kind of concerns with his work ethic, 794 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: and they could trade Roethlisberger for a couple of ones, 795 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: including the high one next year, that gets them their guy. 796 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: They have a track record of pulling these things off 797 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: pretty well. M hmm. So what do you think about? 798 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: All right? So then let's talk about the Detroit Lion 799 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steeler game this week. West another game. This is 800 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: a must a lot of must win games this week. 801 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: Steelers need this one. Uh do you think they come 802 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: out and get it? I picked him to win. To me, 803 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: this is a bit of a coin flip game. I 804 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: have more faith in the Steelers than most people in 805 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: this room do. I still think they're a average team. 806 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: They can beat anybody on a given day. Defense showed 807 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: up last week. Big Ben can play with any quarterback 808 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: in the league when he's hot. Antonio Brown has been 809 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: playing brilliant football this year. I could see it as 810 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: a coin flip game, and I'm going with the home team. 811 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't argue it's a bigger game, more must win 812 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: game for the Lions because they're relevant still the Steelers 813 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: I would have forked weeks ago, to be honest, and 814 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: Detroit can do major damage in the NFC North with 815 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: a win. If green Bay continues to stumble and the 816 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: Bears don't take care of again a business against the Ravens, 817 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: Lions are sitting pretty but you could flip that right 818 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: around to the Steelers are not out of it. If 819 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: they win this game and the Bengals loses, every team 820 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: in that division is only one loss apart. I hear you, yeah, 821 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: I hear you. I you know, Big Ben. It's hard 822 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: to count out Pittsburgh because a big Ben, but they 823 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: are not about to rip off six of seven games here. 824 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: Come on, let's see quite possible put together actual good 825 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: games this season before we annoint him a top five quarterback. 826 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna he's had some great game, he's played well, 827 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: he's played team. I'm tracking this very closely. His numbers 828 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: haven't been unbelievable, but he's he's played pretty well lately. 829 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: He has not been their their big problem. Alright, moving on, Mark, 830 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: we don't need to spend too much time in this game, 831 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: but I will throw it to you. The Atlanta Falcons 832 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Bucks really exciting the must There's 833 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 1: probably a big buzz down in Florida for this game. 834 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: You you kind of channel that buzz through your words, 835 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: you listen. I find this to be one of the 836 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: more This is the time of year where you start 837 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: to get some genuinely depressing matchups. This is depressing because 838 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: I before the year thought Tampa would be a playoff team, 839 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: and I was way off. And I love when I listen, 840 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: I get some things way wrong. This was one of 841 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: those things in Atlanta. What a disaster. Who wants to 842 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: watch this? Not me? O can't wait to see Brian 843 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: Leonard and Steven Jackson running backwards. I'll tell you who 844 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: wanted to watch it? Dan? Who's going to be covering? 845 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: And it is? Dan has to watch it somehow. I 846 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: continue to draw the thirty second overall pick and whatever 847 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: this stupid draft we have to pick games? Is? How 848 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: am I getting that game? A? H. Mark loves the Jaguars. 849 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of protected games this week because you know, 850 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick doesn't have direct TV. He's a Lions fan. 851 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: You're a Jets fan. Ken. You guys use your draft 852 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: picks on your lame teams. Patress like covering games off 853 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: like a ham radio on his wall. Maybe I could 854 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: offer this to Mark. Tampa Bay outdoors, pretty weather down there. 855 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: But they don't have Mike James in Atlanta, in Steven 856 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: Jackson doesn't have a running back. Why are we still 857 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: talking about the game I'm talking about? These teams are 858 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: dead to us. How you spun that towards football? Uh? 859 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: The Chargers? Uh? The fading Chargers potentially are heading to 860 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: Miami and the Dolphins are also fading. Greg Well, fading 861 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: might be in a nice way to put it for 862 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: the doll and. Uh. Will the Chargers take care of business, 863 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: keep their playoff hopes alive while basically burying the Dolphins? 864 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: That's how I see it. How about you? I agree 865 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: we all took the Chargers, which I was surprised. We 866 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: were split on that that Falcons, Buccaneers, barn Burner. But 867 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: we all just assumed that the Dolphins apparently are done. 868 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: I think because you see them on Monday night whatever 869 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: they I mean. I don't think the Chargers would necessarily 870 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: win in Tampa Bay either, I mean there, I think 871 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: these are mid lean teams that will be eight or 872 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: nine win types of teams. What Wesleyans upset? Heck are 873 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: you talking about? The Chargers are your favorite team in 874 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: the NFL and you think Philip Rivers is a conquering god. 875 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: You just you said they won't win, and they didn't. 876 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: They didn't win in Washington. I don't think any win 877 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: for these teams on the road against I think the 878 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: Buccaneers are halfway decent. That's why I picked them this week. 879 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: I think they're playing okay. I mean, they just almost 880 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: one in Seattle. If they had just finished off that game. 881 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: We're getting way off track here. Why are we still 882 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: talking about the Bucks. Let's just because the people demand 883 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: not even halfway to more Bucks talk. I think that's 884 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: really my We do these mid season reviews at NFL 885 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: media this week, and that was mine. More Bucks top. 886 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: That's all I have to say. All right, let's just 887 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: move on. We all we all think the Charges will win. 888 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: That will be nice. Um. The Green Bay Packers two 889 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: game losing streak, Uh, they need this game. They're going 890 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: to the medal ends to face a Giant team that 891 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: is on a three game winning streak, but they are 892 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: not necessarily playing that well. Both these teams need this 893 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: game very badly. West, who's gonna take it? I am 894 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 1: shocked at how the national what's so funny, and how 895 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the country is seeing this game shape up. 896 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: The Giants are apparently gonna blow the Packers out, despite 897 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: the fact that the Giants hamn't played a good game 898 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: all year, even in their three wins, right, they looked 899 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: awful and most of their in their three wins. And 900 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,919 Speaker 1: this is one of those Giants did I you know, Wes, 901 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: hold on all right, We're not gonna get into it 902 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: with your picks. In comparison to your comments, well, half 903 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: these games are coin flip. I mean, I don't know 904 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: who's gonna win. You want me to bank on? Scott Tolzine. 905 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: This has one of those weird time suck things where 906 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: it's like the Packers have an nfl O three picks 907 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: and Eli Manning can't stop throwing picks. What happens, The 908 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: game just vanishes off the field. It doesn't exist. I 909 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: just want to say thank you to NBC and the 910 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 1: NFL for coming up with flex scheduling, because this would 911 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: this would have been the Sunday night game toll Zine 912 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: versus the lame Giants, and instead we get the game 913 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: of the year, just about. I have a prediction that 914 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: we will see Matt Flynn on Sunday. I have a 915 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: Sessler about this, so get ready. That's the press. I 916 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: hope you're not right, because Mark and I took the Packers. 917 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: This is a great test of how strong is your 918 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: the rest of your organization and team other than your quarterback. 919 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: Because the Packers are obviously a better team overall, so 920 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: if Tolzine is just okay, they should win this game. 921 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: Here's why I picked the Giants, I remember, because they 922 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: have been shutting down the running game and Lacy is 923 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: about all the Packers have right now. Boyd job boss 924 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: about boyaking. Boykin's playing well, but somebody has to get 925 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: him the ball, Okay, Rich, I very rarely have Assessly, 926 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: the one time I do have one, you don't give 927 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: me any sound effect except with that Ah, there it is, Sessa. Yeah, 928 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm happy now alright. The final game of the week, 929 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings travel to Seattle to face the Seahawks. 930 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: Man the schedule kind of falls apart a little bit 931 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 1: in the back end. Mark the Seahawks have not lost 932 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: that home this year. Is it gonna happen on Monday night. Listen, 933 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you really saw that one is Christian Ponder 934 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna go there and do the impossible. Wilson hasn't lost 935 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: at home since he was at NC State in two 936 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: thousand ten, and this to me lines up the game 937 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: that could be sixty to nothing. Nice, Nu, I like this. Uh, 938 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: I like this as a major wipeout. We got Percy 939 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: Harvin potentially back in the fold and revenge factor. That's 940 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: interesting him versus I do want to watch how Harvard 941 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: in general has used over there. I don't think we'll 942 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: see a whole lot this week, but just over the 943 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: next coming Fewer than tense snaps this week, but they're 944 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: getting healthy at the right time. Seattle. I'll take the 945 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: over on that one. One guy I like in the 946 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: last last few weeks for the Seahawks, one of our 947 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: making the leap candidate's golden tate, making a lot of 948 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: plays and uh, you know, once he is moved back 949 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: to his normal role and to get Percy healthy, things 950 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: are gonna get really dangerous in Seattle. This is I mean, 951 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: the Vikings defense might be the worst in the league. 952 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: If you if you had Russell Wilson on your bench 953 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: and Fantasy, which he probably has been quite a bit 954 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: this year. It's finally in everyone in the pool game. 955 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson quietly also missed practiced Thursday and Friday, but 956 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: he is expected to play in this game. I think 957 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 1: Christian Ponder is gonna start. We don't know that for sure. 958 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: And breaking news as we're up here during the podcast, 959 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: it's starting to look like Matt mcglogin will be the 960 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: guy for the Raiders on Sunday. Yes, yes, I love it. 961 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: Why are we excited about this? Wait? Didn't din't. It's 962 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: a rematch of the Matt McGloin case. Keenum Penn State 963 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: versus Houston Ticket City Bowl can guarantee that you didn't 964 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: watch a second of that game. I had no idea 965 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: there was a thing called a ticket. In fact, someone 966 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: on Twitter told me that mcgloyd didn't actually play in 967 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: that game. He was the Penn State backup. But we 968 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: don't need to let facts get in the way of 969 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: Ticket City was swallowed up in a huge corporate merger 970 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: by ticket Tron, which was then swallowed up by another dinosaur, 971 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: ticket Master, Ticket Country, Ticket Country. Something like that happened. 972 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: I just like you know, Scott Tolziene is involved in 973 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: a playoff race. Josh McCown is, we've got a keen 974 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: um versus mcgloydad they play against each other. I don't know. 975 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: This is exciting the rails over there. And here's our podcast. Um, 976 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: all right, those are the week eleven games. Will We 977 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: will be back on Sunday night, of course to talk 978 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: about all the results before we go. We have some 979 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: good NFL dot Com backslash a t L content out there. Greg, 980 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: you do the injury report on Friday. There's a lot 981 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: of good stuff there. We do that. We do that 982 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: probably four to five times a week. So if you 983 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 1: ever want to know what's going on in practice where 984 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: guys are, just check in with our injury report. I 985 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: have my weekly end around up mark. A lot of 986 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: great stuff this week, uh, including your last stand weekend, 987 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: which points out a handful of NFL hopeful. That's what 988 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: that's what the copy says. What does that mean for 989 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: basically teams that they lose this week? Playoff hopeful? The 990 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: fork is looming over a lot of teams and Cessler 991 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: is ready to plug. You give me bum copy set. 992 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: I assume that you had read my article, which I 993 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: now realize you never do. That's not true. I dig 994 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: through it all. Mark. You also have that piece about 995 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: teams looking for new quarterbacks. West. You're making leap pieces 996 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: going up today. Everybody get excited, a lot of good 997 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: stuff there. We'll be back on Sunday. Uh. This Dan 998 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: Hands is signing off for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the boss, 999 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: k Ridge behind the glass, and Lyle the Crappy a 1000 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: t L intern until Sunday,