Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 2: Now football is back from the Chris Wesley podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL.
Speaker 2: The flagship program back for an eleventh season. Dan Hans
Speaker 2: is here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Week one of the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three NFL season is here, and now Mark,
Speaker 2: we talk about it.
Speaker 1: That's what we do, you know, this is what we do.
Speaker 3: Here is if we've been doing this because I, you know,
Speaker 3: I will put my math skills to work. If we've
Speaker 3: been doing this for eleven years. Yes, And there's that
Speaker 3: floated between seventeen and eighteen weeks week uh seven hundred
Speaker 3: and fourteen flagship Sunday night shows.
Speaker 1: That checks out to me. I just double checked the
Speaker 1: math for you.
Speaker 3: We're good. The numbers are correct. Do you mean like
Speaker 3: we're good, Like we don't have to do this anymore? No,
Speaker 3: we don't need No one needs to check that total.
Speaker 4: That total is so incorrect. But I don't blame you.
Speaker 4: We're all feeling a little crazy. Is a nice little
Speaker 4: witching hour there with the late games. I just mainlined
Speaker 4: some coffee right before the show, as if I wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna be loud and annoying enough.
Speaker 1: Once we get completely. You know over at all.
Speaker 2: Who's the first of us to go full Jack Collinsworth
Speaker 2: and and force the sun into the studio?
Speaker 3: Oh well, Greg, Greg is already crafted like a pro
Speaker 3: football robot.
Speaker 5: My son will force himself.
Speaker 4: You guys know so little about my relationship with my
Speaker 4: son to think, yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Have been over your house in twelve years, let's start there.
Speaker 3: I like physical walls.
Speaker 5: You know that I could take anything like I'm over Mark.
Speaker 5: Let's give me a break.
Speaker 3: You're welcome anytime.
Speaker 2: Big slate of Week one action a little bit of
Speaker 2: a funky week, but you know what, Yeah, we've been
Speaker 2: doing this for over a decade. Week one is funky,
Speaker 2: and I think the one thing to take away suck.
Speaker 2: Kyle Brand tweeted this, and I've always felt the same thing.
Speaker 2: There are teams that we're gonna talk about today that
Speaker 2: played awesome and there'll be nowhere to be seen when
Speaker 2: relevant football's played in January. The teams that look like
Speaker 2: dog poop today that will get it together.
Speaker 3: So and players on both sides of that court.
Speaker 2: Players, This is not a time to panic. It's not
Speaker 2: a time to celebrate an incoming Super Bowl. But you
Speaker 2: know what part of the fun is reading too much
Speaker 2: of the week one and we're about to do that.
Speaker 3: In some case, when your team gets a bomb dropped
Speaker 3: on it in week one, there's no way that doesn't
Speaker 3: feel terrible. You can be as like philosophical and stow
Speaker 3: about it as need be, but it's a terrible feeling.
Speaker 4: I mean that l counts the same as it does
Speaker 4: in week seventeen if you lose a big time division matchup.
Speaker 5: I mean it sticks.
Speaker 2: There a lot of football, I guess at the point
Speaker 2: and mark to that point. After a lot of excitement
Speaker 2: around the Pittsburgh Steelers, it was time for real football
Speaker 2: to be played. So let's start with a game that
Speaker 2: was played in Pittsburgh against a Titan of the NFC.
Speaker 6: They did pick up the first down stretch run coming
Speaker 6: left to McCaffrey, stays play side. Breck's a tackle forty
Speaker 6: five block from our yoke down the sideline thirty cuts
Speaker 6: back it's side twenty selling bombs on the sage on
Speaker 6: a diving for the inside touchdown.
Speaker 1: See m see.
Speaker 7: In the Dynamite explodes on his first run in the
Speaker 7: third quarter.
Speaker 2: Greg Papa, good to hear you again, Buddy, and Tim
Speaker 2: Ryan with pecall knbr healthy version of the forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers offense. It just feels unfair. Christian McCaffrey took any
Speaker 2: drama out of Pittsburgh with a sixty five yard touchdown
Speaker 2: run to kick off the second half. The Niners cruise
Speaker 2: to a thirty to seven win over a baffled looking
Speaker 2: Steelers team. Boys, this was a compelling blowout because of
Speaker 2: what it said about both teams in Week one. Let's
Speaker 2: start with the Niners, who look like the best team
Speaker 2: in football quite frankly, at least this week, in a
Speaker 2: dominating two way effort.
Speaker 5: I am shocked by this.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a big loss for the player guys
Speaker 4: in the preseason brigade because who played the most and
Speaker 4: looked the best in the preseason. The Pittsburgh Steelers in
Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs didn't really help.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much to point to because I'm
Speaker 3: looking at their drive chart and the Steelers who looked
Speaker 3: as crisp and clean on offense as anyone because they
Speaker 3: had starters in there. But like, it's like you're searching
Speaker 3: for something to take away from in August, and I
Speaker 3: guess maybe none of it matters at all. They don't
Speaker 3: have a single drive in their first five marches that
Speaker 3: crosses five yards.
Speaker 5: This was your game, Dan, Like, well, what happened to
Speaker 5: the Steelers?
Speaker 2: They just could not get it going. I mean it
Speaker 2: started with a three and out. Their next possession, Kenny
Speaker 2: Pickett threw into coverage, which he did a lot in
Speaker 2: this game. A receiver slip led to an interception, and
Speaker 2: then you know, the just started turned into a snowball
Speaker 2: effect and before you knew it, they were down three scores.
Speaker 2: And even when they were able to get a late
Speaker 2: touchdown at the end of the first half, it was
Speaker 2: the only time they should any life on offense. It
Speaker 2: took them until I believe it was one fifteen to
Speaker 2: play in the second quarter before they even had a
Speaker 2: first down. And to their credit, they got that first
Speaker 2: down and went down the field about ninety yards and
Speaker 2: got on the board, and it made you think, maybe,
Speaker 2: just maybe they might make it a game. It was,
Speaker 2: it was within striking distance at that point. But that
Speaker 2: pitch to McCaffrey makes one cut, he's gone. Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 2: with a brilliant block on that run.
Speaker 1: Ayuk.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing about this this Niners offense. If
Speaker 2: Brendan Ayuk is going to become a superstar this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, forget a turn out the lights because he
Speaker 2: looked unbelievable. Patrick Peterson got cooked up on the first touchdown.
Speaker 2: The second touchdown, it was again Ayuk on a beautiful
Speaker 2: party throw right on the money with Patrick Peterson tight
Speaker 2: in coverage. But it didn't matter. Like I said, his
Speaker 2: blocking was on point. So he just played an elite game.
Speaker 2: I would imagine there's not gonna be a PFF great
Speaker 2: higher at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: What Brandon Io gets in this game.
Speaker 2: So they the defense turned it up on Pickett, who
Speaker 2: just you know, and it is true he looked good
Speaker 2: in the preseason and you heard all the positive talk
Speaker 2: about him taking the next step. He kind of played
Speaker 2: like button this game, and it was It's part of
Speaker 2: the concern for the Steelers, but he's not the only
Speaker 2: reason they lost.
Speaker 1: They just kind of no showed on offense.
Speaker 3: There were a couple of things you were thinking that
Speaker 3: the Steelers might be that they weren't at this time
Speaker 3: last year. Was an improved offensive line. They gave up
Speaker 3: five sacks. That tells me. Also, the Niners, like Steve
Speaker 3: Wilkes is like your eighteenth defensive coordinator in his many years,
Speaker 3: and the defense absolutely baffled Pittsburgh's offense. It's like they
Speaker 3: couldn't run the ball. I'm just for a lot of
Speaker 3: it confirms for me what we hoped and thought about
Speaker 3: the Niners. I mean, a lot of is a carryover,
Speaker 3: except Ayuk looks like he's leveled up, which I'll never
Speaker 3: forget Omar Ruiz coming in in our newsroom in the
Speaker 3: middle of the summer having been to camp and saying,
Speaker 3: he we know he's good, but he's a completely different player.
Speaker 3: But we were like, question mark, who is brock Purty?
Speaker 3: It was last year in Mirah? Was it real? And
Speaker 3: just like kind of scanning the first half plus of this,
Speaker 3: it was the version from last year.
Speaker 4: Well, I've mentioned how on the previous show how they've
Speaker 4: started slow over the last few years, and like this
Speaker 4: team just feels much more ready to go as long
Speaker 4: as they keep their health. I mean, you don't even
Speaker 4: have Nick Bosa plane like all the all his snaps
Speaker 4: and making all the impact that he's gonna make in
Speaker 4: the future. Nine qb hits, five sacks, eight tackles for lost,
Speaker 4: four passes defense. I mean, when you're when you're getting
Speaker 4: Drake Jackson to his second year player was quiet last year,
Speaker 4: had a bunch of a couple of sacks in this game.
Speaker 4: And you're getting Cleveland Furrel, the old Raiders bust who's
Speaker 4: now like making plays like they just have so many plays.
Speaker 1: And it was a disaster of a day for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: You had.
Speaker 2: In addition to the lopsided score, Cam Hayward leaves the
Speaker 2: game with a groin injury.
Speaker 1: He didn't return.
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson left the third quarter after hurting his hamstring
Speaker 2: on a twenty six yard game.
Speaker 1: He was gone.
Speaker 2: That didn't after that, and you just you get it
Speaker 2: was kind of a worse case scenario. In fact, the
Speaker 2: only person that showed up for the Pittsburgh Steelers was TJ. Watt,
Speaker 2: who was a monster. He had three sacks and two
Speaker 2: forced fumbled fumbles, recovered one of them. But that was it.
Speaker 2: It was just it was as one sided as a
Speaker 2: game as as you can imagine.
Speaker 1: And I think the final score tell you you that.
Speaker 2: The one other thing that I think is a takeaway
Speaker 2: from this game, brock Purdy his consistency, like you could
Speaker 2: put it in the bank. We talked before we started Marcus,
Speaker 2: you have him in your fantasy team, like I never
Speaker 2: stated my opponent too, right, Oh congratulations. He might not
Speaker 2: be a guy that's gonna win fantasy leagues, but if
Speaker 2: you need two touchdowns and two hundred and twenty yards
Speaker 2: passing or whatever, and just a steady performance. He's up
Speaker 2: to seven straight games in the regular season with two
Speaker 2: touchdown passes or more.
Speaker 1: He looked very healthy, very sharp.
Speaker 2: He took a couple of big hits in this game,
Speaker 2: so you got to keep an eye on that and
Speaker 2: and the news to come in the upcoming days.
Speaker 1: But he got out of there healthy. I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised Kyle Shannan kept giving Christian McCaffrey the rock
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when this game was well.
Speaker 5: Does not need to be doing it.
Speaker 1: Mitchell, Elijah Mitchell was not a part of the game
Speaker 1: plan really, But yeah, when you when you get topp
Speaker 1: Tier and that part of the thing about Ayuk is
Speaker 1: sometimes he's a little enigmatic.
Speaker 2: You don't know which version you're gonna get of him.
Speaker 2: But when you get this guy and Deebo's chipping in
Speaker 2: and Kittle, who's quiet today does his thing, it's almost
Speaker 2: like in that passing game, he has so many options
Speaker 2: party and he's blocked up front. Well, Trent Williams got
Speaker 2: beat up a little bit in this game too. Keep
Speaker 2: an eye on that. We have a Monday show now,
Speaker 2: by the way, which is good. That will track all
Speaker 2: these different injuries, guys that got banged up, and the
Speaker 2: and the subplots to.
Speaker 1: Watch what a value add for the listener exactly.
Speaker 2: The passing game is so deadly that when you pitch
Speaker 2: it to Christian McCaffrey, it's like this feels unfair. It
Speaker 2: felt unfair on the field and that's not what the
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers were expecting today.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: I would ask you this though, because you're said, I
Speaker 3: get a week one. Everyone chill. It's a long season.
Speaker 3: Like there are Steelers fans out there tonight who I
Speaker 3: think thought this was a good bar for them, a
Speaker 3: good test, but that they would compete and like they
Speaker 3: were not competitive, Like is there reason for panic or
Speaker 3: is it just go back and start O.
Speaker 2: No, it's a good test. Next Monday night they get
Speaker 2: the brown and we'll get to it. But there's gonna
Speaker 2: be a lot of pressure on them to show up.
Speaker 2: And Cleveland balled out. We're gonna get to that soon
Speaker 2: on defense, there's gonna be a lot of pressure on
Speaker 2: Picket and that offense to show that this was just
Speaker 2: an aberration.
Speaker 1: And they got boat raced in a in a surprise way.
Speaker 4: In a week where a lot of last year's superpowers,
Speaker 4: the best teams from last year didn't look like the
Speaker 4: best teams in Week one. It's nice to just see
Speaker 4: a forty nine Ers group of marauders just like, we're here.
Speaker 5: We're superheroes.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you paralleled that to that effort to us. No,
Speaker 3: but I like, we're here, we're superheroes.
Speaker 4: I'm we were already going on. I was embodying. I
Speaker 4: was embodying the forty nine Ers. I am the forty nine.
Speaker 2: You have any statement, Mark, you're obviously very high on
Speaker 2: the Steelers throughout the summer that you'd like to make
Speaker 2: before we move on.
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna take your your typical route on this
Speaker 3: and say I don't own any of this. It's a
Speaker 3: long season. We'll talk to me. You know too well.
Speaker 4: You've got they've got to get to twelve. You have
Speaker 4: four loss May you have four losses to play with?
Speaker 5: Still you have four loss that's to play with? That
Speaker 5: one down one down.
Speaker 3: Fine, we just played the best team in football, So
Speaker 3: all right we did. I just say we for the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers, right, But it's the dart gun.
Speaker 1: That's what I've always thought.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a little reverse Jink Saxon in here, and
Speaker 2: you're off to a great start. If that's the case,
Speaker 2: let's move on now. The other NFC superpower is the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. They're going up to Foxborough and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a cakewalk, or is it?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 8: The Patriots are looking at a fourth down and ten
Speaker 8: plus with forty seconds in counting left here in the
Speaker 8: fourth quarter, three receivers wide of the right, one left
Speaker 8: snapped to Jones format watch Max stands.
Speaker 3: In throws it left fort got it?
Speaker 5: Why do you gotta do this?
Speaker 1: Eight?
Speaker 5: Get a play? Let's go time out.
Speaker 3: But remember reviews initiated for the booth, so I don't pick.
Speaker 5: That left foot got.
Speaker 1: In, bottle out. Hold that thought on the bid.
Speaker 2: Completed pass is under further Ooh you heard there from
Speaker 2: WBZ the sension power aide bottle Scott sol I got excited,
Speaker 2: but it just wasn't happening. In the end, the Eagles
Speaker 2: kept opening the door for the Patriots on Tom Brady
Speaker 2: Day in Foxborough, but Mac Jones and company could not
Speaker 2: bust in for an upset, the defending ANC champions, holding
Speaker 2: on for a twenty five to twenty win after Jones's
Speaker 2: fourth down conversion to Kaishan Bhute was overturned on review
Speaker 2: in the final minute.
Speaker 1: Greggy, tough one for you. Bittersweet for you.
Speaker 2: You love your Eagles and your heart is in Western
Speaker 2: mass This game started out looking like a laughter, but
Speaker 2: you know, the Patriots made it close.
Speaker 1: They just couldn't get over there.
Speaker 5: Hey, I mean it's that bittersweet.
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for the Patriots in this game, and it
Speaker 4: was a huge missed opportunity. You could talk the whole
Speaker 4: offseason about all this stuff and who's built up the
Speaker 4: Eagles and the charts and what the Patriots have done
Speaker 4: with Bill O'Brien, and then you get to Week one
Speaker 4: and the Patriots I think clearly outplayed the Eagles in
Speaker 4: this game. I mean they outgained him by what one
Speaker 4: fifty and a lot of the game and there's a
Speaker 4: lot we can get into, but comes down to Kishan Budi,
Speaker 4: an undrafted rookie who's in the game partly because DeVante
Speaker 4: Parker ended up being ruled out late in the week
Speaker 4: not dragging his foot down on two different plays. That
Speaker 4: wasn't the only one he killed two different drives like that.
Speaker 4: Another was on a deep, nice throw by Mac Jones,
Speaker 4: and that ended up being a punt at a moment
Speaker 4: where they were moving the ball pretty well. And you
Speaker 4: could take positives that the defense looked much better and
Speaker 4: that they outplayed them, but ultimately there still were a
Speaker 4: lot of mental errors, including a late penalty that they
Speaker 4: took for not getting a playoff in time on fourth
Speaker 4: and twelve.
Speaker 5: Which was just surprising to see.
Speaker 4: So there were just little things that they still made mistakes,
Speaker 4: even if the overall defense especially, but the team looked
Speaker 4: better than it did a year.
Speaker 3: It's a difficult, frustrating loss for Patriots fans because you
Speaker 3: wipe out the first part of this game and you
Speaker 3: get what they had, what they were for the final
Speaker 3: like seventy percent and they beat the Eagles, But that
Speaker 3: first five offensive drive set pick six, fumbole then three
Speaker 3: straight three and ounce, It's like it took a while
Speaker 3: for these guys to get going. And I would say
Speaker 3: one thing like, if you're relying on that wide receiver
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. I know there was
Speaker 3: an injury here with Parker, but like, this is a
Speaker 3: team that did not stock up on offensive that position,
Speaker 3: and like you're in week one in that situation that
Speaker 3: should be like a late November deal where like a
Speaker 3: bunch of guys go down and it's like, that's not
Speaker 3: the right personnel to go beat the Super Bowl NFC
Speaker 3: defending titleists.
Speaker 4: Now they already feel like a little bit of a
Speaker 4: banged up team a wide receiver and throughout the roster.
Speaker 2: And you know, Jacobe Myers, by the way, had some
Speaker 2: success in his Raiders' debut, So they are short at
Speaker 2: playmakers or mac Jones, so they have a better scheme,
Speaker 2: Greg Ye, but it's obviously a work in progress on
Speaker 2: offense still the Eagle side of it, Greg, Like what
Speaker 2: but I'm looking at you know, Jalen Hurts. His numbers
Speaker 2: aren't popping off the screen. What was not working for
Speaker 2: this team because you factor in the pick six and
Speaker 2: they didn't really roll on offense.
Speaker 5: In this right.
Speaker 4: So for a little background, the Eagles were up sixty
Speaker 4: to nothing very quickly. A pick six on a drop
Speaker 4: pass in the rain, not a good throw by Mac
Speaker 4: Jones and then another quick short field touchdown where they
Speaker 4: took it over after Ezekiel Elliott fumbled, and after that
Speaker 4: they had four straight three and outs. They couldn't run
Speaker 4: the ball. It was all Kenny Gainwell, so that that
Speaker 4: was a surprise. I think the fantasy owners almost nothing
Speaker 4: of DeAndre Swift or anyone else. Hurts had a couple
Speaker 4: nice individual plays, but it wasn't really the called QB
Speaker 4: runs that were doing it either. I think Christian Gonzales
Speaker 4: and the Patriots defense did a really good job, but
Speaker 4: they they were disjointed. It was one of the worst,
Speaker 4: you know, Eagles offensive performances we've seen in a long time.
Speaker 4: Four yards per play, two hundred and fifty yards. I
Speaker 4: think Belichick threw a lot at them schematically and did
Speaker 4: a nice job. There were a couple drives late where
Speaker 4: aj Brown and DeVante Smith won their one on one
Speaker 4: matchups and that was enough. And you got Jake Elliot
Speaker 4: booting bombs off the crossbar. Or they didn't have a
Speaker 4: great kicker, three kicks in the rain over forty eight yards,
Speaker 4: they might not win this game.
Speaker 3: Like so, do you see an issue with the double
Speaker 3: coordinator switch switch which I did not really was was
Speaker 3: it weather. It's like Jalen Hurts had a characteristic fumble
Speaker 3: at this point. They're kicking field goals, not scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 3: They have four straight punts at one point. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is this doesn't look like any box score from
Speaker 3: last year's Eagles team.
Speaker 4: They were very conservative when they got the lead, as
Speaker 4: if it was like the fourth quarter, like making some
Speaker 4: runs on third and ten and not going for any
Speaker 4: points late in the first half.
Speaker 5: So I think it was partly the weather.
Speaker 4: It was driving rain early about the first quarter, then
Speaker 4: it led up, and I think it was more about
Speaker 4: what I believe to be a top five defense playing
Speaker 4: well for the most part at every level, and five
Speaker 4: months for Bill Belichick to plan for this game. Romo
Speaker 4: kept pointing it out, you can scheme for this game.
Speaker 4: You know this upon all summer long, and I think
Speaker 4: the Patriots defense is going to be difficult for most
Speaker 4: offenses dealing.
Speaker 1: Were you okay with what.
Speaker 2: Gave New England that second life after the Henry failure
Speaker 2: to convert on the drop they had fourth and two
Speaker 2: Philly at New England's forty four. They go into shotgun
Speaker 2: so they could even you know, they could have punted
Speaker 2: and buried him back there they going shotgun. They passed
Speaker 2: it incomplete and that opened the door for New England
Speaker 2: to have one more shot.
Speaker 4: Well, I was okay with it as a Patriots fan. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you got Christian Godales, the first round pickout there, who
Speaker 4: looks like a real dude. And to answer your question,
Speaker 4: the way that game was going, I actually thought, Wow,
Speaker 4: the Patriots have a better chance of stopping him here
Speaker 4: than I think they do of going ninety yards. I
Speaker 4: would have felt differently at almost any point last season,
Speaker 4: but the way this game had been going, it was
Speaker 4: so disjointed. I thought, Okay, they can maybe get a
Speaker 4: stop here, and they didn't. So that was one case
Speaker 4: where Nick Sirianni was very aggressive and it didn't work out.
Speaker 4: One worry some aspect for the Eagles I think, was
Speaker 4: they just did not get much pressure on Mac Jones.
Speaker 5: He threw the ball fifty four times.
Speaker 4: I know there were some hurries and hits and sacks,
Speaker 4: but he threw the ball fifty four times with two
Speaker 4: rookie guards starting. For injuries, there's all sorts of injuries
Speaker 4: on the Patriots offensive line, but they did a good
Speaker 4: job protecting They could not run the ball whatsoever against
Speaker 4: Eagles big front. But a little surprise, how little uh
Speaker 4: pressure they got up there.
Speaker 3: Said seventy sacks a year ago when we came in
Speaker 3: a week ago thinking like the Patriots offensive line, right,
Speaker 3: it might be an apocalypse, right.
Speaker 5: And they got two in this game.
Speaker 4: And they totally stuffed for Andre Stevenson and Zeke for
Speaker 4: the most part on the ground, but passing they did
Speaker 4: a bad job.
Speaker 2: Interesting we shall say, I mean, Philly gets the win,
Speaker 2: but everything seemed to be just come so easily to
Speaker 2: that team. Is it gonna be the same way this year?
Speaker 2: In Week one, it wasn't easy, but they got it done.
Speaker 2: Let's now move to the best game of the day.
Speaker 2: We were just warmed up. Let's head across the sidewalk
Speaker 2: Sofi Stadium.
Speaker 1: Dolphins up by two.
Speaker 9: The Chargers have a football people their old territory.
Speaker 10: They gotta pick uptim again.
Speaker 1: He blitzed them. They did not pick up the blitz.
Speaker 1: I mean it was wide open.
Speaker 2: And the cut to vic Fansio, I love it and
Speaker 2: the bongos are out. You know you made a huge
Speaker 2: play when your QB throws for four sixty six and
Speaker 2: Tyree goes over two hundred and we're talking a sack.
Speaker 2: But that sack was the difference for the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: who score thirty six to thirty four win over the
Speaker 2: Chargers in a great back and forth shootout. The door
Speaker 2: had been left open a missed extra point after the
Speaker 2: second Tyreek Hill touchdown from to I think I.
Speaker 1: Predicted thirty seven thirty four.
Speaker 5: Got ub by you.
Speaker 3: I won't go back to the preview. I just would
Speaker 3: like to say, good job, make.
Speaker 2: The extra point. I don't know if that's right, but
Speaker 2: keep those bongos going, bro. But but what a performance,
Speaker 2: What a great game. But what a performance by Tua
Speaker 2: and company. And let's welcome in a man who watched
Speaker 2: this game. I watch it too, and I enjoyed the
Speaker 2: hell out of it. The great Nick Shook.
Speaker 1: Look at him.
Speaker 2: Back for another year on the flagship Show Shook. We
Speaker 2: got the shootout we wanted and it was glorious.
Speaker 11: Glorious.
Speaker 12: Indeed, as somebody who's tasked with writing the what we learned.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, how do you do this?
Speaker 2: That would have really this game, that would have sent
Speaker 2: Mark into a dark place.
Speaker 3: I would have got I would have I would have Hubert.
Speaker 5: Home and playing to us about it the whole time.
Speaker 12: Late in the fourth I'm just sitting there, going what
Speaker 12: did I learn from this game?
Speaker 11: I don't even know.
Speaker 12: I think one thing I learned because to a tongue
Speaker 12: of by Lowa and Justin Herbert are forever linked because
Speaker 12: of where they were drafted. And I have received so
Speaker 12: much hate from Dolphins fans over the last three years
Speaker 12: anytime I praised Justin Herbert, because they always have to
Speaker 12: make up for their insecurity. Regarding to a tongue of
Speaker 12: my low, well, guess what, Dolphins fans, you got your
Speaker 12: answer today. You're no longer insecure. He threw for four
Speaker 12: hundred and sixty six yards three touchdowns. He completed twenty
Speaker 12: eight to forty five passes. Tyreek Hill went for two
Speaker 12: point fifteen. They were down late and they moved down
Speaker 12: the field effortlessly. It was a fantastic offensive performance in
Speaker 12: a shootout, and despite the final score. I even liked
Speaker 12: some of the things I saw from the defense. They've
Speaker 12: got allowed to clean up, but the way they close
Speaker 12: that game, that's the potential of that Dolphins defense. So
Speaker 12: for those of you who are Dolphins fans, who are
Speaker 12: constantly checking Charger scorers and box scores and finding reasons
Speaker 12: to poke holes and justin.
Speaker 11: Herbert, you don't need it anymore. You got it today.
Speaker 5: This is your super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I like this.
Speaker 2: You know what it's a it's a this is not
Speaker 2: this is a battle that was one by two of
Speaker 2: the war. Well we'll see who wins the war and
Speaker 2: who had the right draft pick. But like when you
Speaker 2: see this sicko version of the Dolphins offense pop up
Speaker 2: again this year, it gets you really excited for your
Speaker 2: Dolphins fan because for two reasons, the fact that they
Speaker 2: made it, like you said, shook looks so easy, carving
Speaker 2: up a Chargers defense that we were pumping up as
Speaker 2: a defense that could do some things this year, and
Speaker 2: that was simple the fangio on the d Now not
Speaker 2: there not a shining day for their defense, at least statistically.
Speaker 2: But Fangio, you know, as the season goes on, they're
Speaker 2: gonna start to gel and figure things out. Jalen Ramsey's
Speaker 2: down in the horizon maybe as well, so they're probably
Speaker 2: gonna get better as things go along. So if they
Speaker 2: keep two upright, and this offense is gonna have big
Speaker 2: time days like this and just a perfect start for
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 4: Nick, I think were to mean the difference between this
Speaker 4: and maybe if you think about that Bill's game early
Speaker 4: last season and some of the great two of performances,
Speaker 4: there was two was making rows in this game that
Speaker 4: were because he's special. I mean, the scheme was great,
Speaker 4: but some of those throws were just outrageous, and that's
Speaker 4: what you think of when it's Justin Herbert. And it
Speaker 4: was weird because Justin Herber was just kind of moving
Speaker 4: the ball down the field and they're running the ball.
Speaker 5: But Tua, to me, made throws in this game.
Speaker 4: And Tyreek Hill helped him out a lot with those
Speaker 4: late hands on that game winning touchdown. But his throws
Speaker 4: were all about him being excellent, not just the scheme.
Speaker 12: Last drive alone, he had two great throws a Tyrek
Speaker 12: Hill the one that you just mentioned. He also had
Speaker 12: one down the right side where he just dropped it
Speaker 12: right over the defender and it was a beautiful past.
Speaker 12: And the funny thing is is I saw somebody tweet
Speaker 12: Tua is like the master of getting just enough on
Speaker 12: a throw, like not too much and not too little.
Speaker 12: I think that there's an argement to be made that
Speaker 12: he does sometimes leave too little on the ball, but
Speaker 12: today was not that day.
Speaker 11: Today he was putting it.
Speaker 12: In all these different places, just putting it right on
Speaker 12: his guys, operating the offense efficiently. I mean it looked
Speaker 12: effortless at times, and the pairing with Tyreek is just
Speaker 12: it's something.
Speaker 11: It's marvelous.
Speaker 12: It truly is, like I two hundred fifteen yards is
Speaker 12: nothing to you know, scoff at of course, statistically, but
Speaker 12: the way it looked was so much more than that.
Speaker 12: The way Tyreek ran his route and got himself open,
Speaker 12: the way too would flow with the play action fake
Speaker 12: and find somebody, whether it was Tyreek or it was
Speaker 12: River Craycraft or somebody else. He was operating this offense
Speaker 12: as if he'd been there for a decade and he's healthy,
Speaker 12: and that's this is what the Dolphins can be. It's
Speaker 12: just like you guys said, he's got to stay healthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's like the polar opposite of that Monday night meltdown
Speaker 3: from a year ago when these two teams faced each other.
Speaker 3: I would ask you from a Chargers side, because I
Speaker 3: didn't love this that it's thirty one to thirty. They're
Speaker 3: driving down the field. The Chargers and you get that
Speaker 3: illegal holding on the Dolphins. It puts them right at
Speaker 3: Miami's doorstep. They're thwarted and come out with a field goal.
Speaker 3: It's then thirty four to thirty one. The Dolphins go
Speaker 3: thirty four to thirty The Dolphins go do what they
Speaker 3: do and then the final drive they were in a
Speaker 3: tough spot. But Jalen Phillips is unblocked twice. Like him two,
Speaker 3: there's two takedowns. You've got a problem here, where like
Speaker 3: there's an intentional grounding on Justin Herbert and like, yet
Speaker 3: I would say this, like, do you come out of
Speaker 3: this game looking at the Kellen Moore approach to this offense,
Speaker 3: because there was a lot of like pre snap motion,
Speaker 3: they were highly productive in another world we're talking about
Speaker 3: the Chargers not folding at the end of the game,
Speaker 3: but they did. But do you think that there's maybe
Speaker 3: like a different type of dash of optimism for what
Speaker 3: this offense can be versus how he was stuck last year?
Speaker 3: I thought Justin Herbert in the wrong type of s.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, I do think it's a different type of offense
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, sure it's a different play caller, but this
Speaker 1: is this is the same stuff, Like they couldn't find
Speaker 1: a way again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's Brandon Stealey's defense as much as anything
Speaker 3: else though.
Speaker 1: But that's part of it too with this team, Right, I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, do you think that Herbert's in a better environment
Speaker 3: to you know, sixteen weeks from now, we forget about
Speaker 3: this one and just say this is a good news.
Speaker 12: I mean in that other world, I'm a millionaire, so
Speaker 12: you know we can't all you get the best of
Speaker 12: everything here, but I worry. Yes, thirty four points again
Speaker 12: nothing just GoF at but my one can with them
Speaker 12: is something that happened a lot, especially when Austin Eckler
Speaker 12: was hurt last year. Was when he's out of the
Speaker 12: ball game, their offense is just not as good. Yeah,
Speaker 12: And he looked like he got a little dinged in
Speaker 12: this game. He kind of like hobbled off a little bit.
Speaker 12: And he did play throughout the fourth quarter, but he
Speaker 12: didn't have the same role. And in that situation that
Speaker 12: you just described, they're on the doorstep and a touchdown
Speaker 12: and maybe a two point.
Speaker 11: Conversion could end this game.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they didn't go to him and they looked like
Speaker 12: they didn't know what to do, and they were mixing tempo.
Speaker 12: Who was noted on the broadcast they were mixing up tempo.
Speaker 12: Then they went up tempo, going to that third down
Speaker 12: play as if they were in a catchment a personnel
Speaker 12: missmatch when you're seven yards away from the end zone
Speaker 12: and you're forcing yourself to throw and guys don't even
Speaker 12: they're not on the same page. So I think that
Speaker 12: there is potential there, but a lot of the same
Speaker 12: issues are still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they they were the worst running team in
Speaker 4: the league last year. They ran for two hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty four yards. This is very different. They talked all offseason,
Speaker 4: We're going to be a North South running team. You
Speaker 4: got Joshua Kelly going for ninety one yards, you got
Speaker 4: Austin Eckler going for one to seventeen. That's the story.
Speaker 4: If the defense can make any stops. I mean, they
Speaker 4: kind of did what they wanted in terms of being
Speaker 4: a power running team. That's positive, But give Mike McDaniel
Speaker 4: a lot of credit. They got the ball with nine
Speaker 4: seconds left in the first half and they tried to score,
Speaker 4: and they did score, and you see all these coaches
Speaker 4: not try to score, they get a twenty five yard
Speaker 4: play and then they get a PI and then they
Speaker 4: kicked the field goal. They also got a touchdown on
Speaker 4: a drive where they went for it on fourth and seven.
Speaker 4: So you came into the league being the dork hero,
Speaker 4: Brandon Staley, but Mike McDaniel took your crown. You got
Speaker 4: a little scared over the last couple of years. That's
Speaker 4: all being aggressive, and that to me is a huge difference.
Speaker 4: Those three points they got at the end of the
Speaker 4: first half are the difference.
Speaker 12: There is an asterisk there though, and it is the
Speaker 12: roller coaster ride that is the J. C. Jackson experience.
Speaker 12: He had a terrible PI on that play. There's no
Speaker 12: reason that he should have been right.
Speaker 4: That's why for it in that situation, just to make
Speaker 4: them make a mistake.
Speaker 12: He also had an interception where he tried to bring
Speaker 12: out of the end zone and then they had the
Speaker 12: ball in their own two yard line.
Speaker 11: Couldn't do anything with that takeaway.
Speaker 5: But and then he.
Speaker 12: Also gave up a touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill who
Speaker 12: just toasted him down the sideline.
Speaker 11: Well, very up and down there.
Speaker 2: And it should be non that the Dolphins also went
Speaker 2: straight down the field in the first possession of the
Speaker 2: game and then had a muff snap, so they were
Speaker 2: they did whatever they wanted in this game to had
Speaker 2: a pick as well.
Speaker 1: But he was brilliant.
Speaker 2: And I don't think maybe sometimes we give Tyreek Kill enough.
Speaker 1: Credit, like for how different he is.
Speaker 2: This is a Hall of Famer who has been everything
Speaker 2: the Dolphins have could have asked for and more, quite frankly,
Speaker 2: and we saw it again in this game. That is interesting, uh,
Speaker 2: And that Chargers defense has to get better.
Speaker 4: We think we might have to. We might have to
Speaker 4: rewatch this game as their NFL bust game.
Speaker 1: I think we might have Oh oh no, who.
Speaker 5: But you know who? They were honking up a storm.
Speaker 4: I see your little tweet snick whistling and come come
Speaker 4: with a Week one win.
Speaker 5: If you're going to lock up, I.
Speaker 3: Wasn't daring lock though, and frankly, strategically bizarre lock.
Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of a in this in this Sinnati zoo,
Speaker 2: sometimes they they're a little flip and that's what happened here.
Speaker 1: Oh to one, they joined me in that world.
Speaker 2: Let's head down, Yes, let's head to Cleveland, Shookie, your
Speaker 2: hometown where the Browns made a statement.
Speaker 7: Burrow, actually, the last time they had the ball on
Speaker 7: a fourth down and three wanted to go and was
Speaker 7: upset when they sent the punt team on. Now they're
Speaker 7: going at the thirty one. They need the thirty five
Speaker 7: fourth out and four. Burrow claps his hands.
Speaker 3: He watched the ball. He's got the ball.
Speaker 5: Hop in the pucket.
Speaker 1: They chase him right, they got him, and they took
Speaker 1: him down.
Speaker 3: Wals God got him all the way back inside the
Speaker 3: twenty yard live.
Speaker 1: The Browns hit the ball. That is my defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year pick. Everybody. Miles Garrett chas him down.
Speaker 2: It bewildered Joe Burrow for a sack that basically put
Speaker 2: the kaibosh and any hopes for the Bengals In a
Speaker 2: twenty fourth three Browns win in Cleveland, Joe Burrow, freshly
Speaker 2: signed to a deal that made him the highest paid
Speaker 2: player in NFL history, could not move since the offense
Speaker 2: that managed just one hundred and forty two yards total
Speaker 2: and shooky, I mean, listen what.
Speaker 1: It died in the world.
Speaker 5: One hundred and forty two.
Speaker 1: Browns fan, It's been quite a ride the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. This is a dream start for Cleveland.
Speaker 12: Yeah, my longtime best friend went to the game today
Speaker 12: and has not stopped texting me since he left the game.
Speaker 12: And just to confirm that the Browns did in fact
Speaker 12: win this game, because it does not happen in Cleveland
Speaker 12: in week one.
Speaker 1: What's the last time that happened?
Speaker 3: When is the last two? At home?
Speaker 1: At home?
Speaker 12: Two thousand and four, Jeff Garcia led them to a
Speaker 12: victory over the Baltimore Ravens, who also only scored three
Speaker 12: points that day.
Speaker 3: Fun fact, you have three opening week wins since ninety nine.
Speaker 3: That's absurd.
Speaker 4: Six first downs for the Bengals. I can't believe it.
Speaker 11: They went three and out. Let's see.
Speaker 12: Eight nine times. I mean, it was just it was
Speaker 12: an abysmal performance. This is a team that has Joe
Speaker 12: Burrow and George Chase and t Higgins and Joe Mixon,
Speaker 12: and they showed life on exactly one possession and gotten
Speaker 12: field goal range and converted that field goal. Evan McPherson
Speaker 12: missed his second field goal. The weather was bad, I'll
Speaker 12: give you that. But the other team put twenty four
Speaker 12: points on the board. You put three on the board.
Speaker 12: I've never seen a team from one year the next
Speaker 12: and this is the Browns team that has been absolutely
Speaker 12: horrible defensively for the last few years under Joe Woods.
Speaker 12: Transform with a new defensive coordinator, they played with a
Speaker 12: different emotion and intention that the passion and the attitude
Speaker 12: was completely different. Blanket coverage throughout this game. The additions
Speaker 12: they made in the front four showed up. They got
Speaker 12: after Burrow all day. He was never comfortable. That's why
Speaker 12: a big reason why they couldn't move the football and
Speaker 12: then they just slowly tacked on points because their offense
Speaker 12: wasn't really doing that much in the rain either.
Speaker 11: Remarkable.
Speaker 12: If they could play like this in a weekly basis,
Speaker 12: I would actually feel really good about their chances to
Speaker 12: win the division and be a legitimate contender in the conference.
Speaker 11: It's only one week, but it.
Speaker 1: Was it was between.
Speaker 11: Last year and this year.
Speaker 3: They've done this to Cincinnati before, and like we kind
Speaker 3: of talked about this in the previous show, that there's
Speaker 3: some sort of weird connection between these two teams where
Speaker 3: Burrow's going to get a game a year where he's
Speaker 3: absolutely massacred by this defense, but these guys look different.
Speaker 3: I mean, this has to be one of the wildest
Speaker 3: stats of the game, t Higgins targeted eight times without
Speaker 3: a single catch. That I mean, like these guys that,
Speaker 3: when you know they've felled the Chiefs multiple times, they
Speaker 3: are considered the class of the AFC at least one
Speaker 3: of the top two. And Cleveland's defense under Jim Schwartz
Speaker 3: that you're right that coordinator switch probably should have happened
Speaker 3: a year earlier. But Jim Schwartz for all the people
Speaker 3: that it's like, oh, it's Lions head coach, you know,
Speaker 3: middle of the road, Like he can coach up a
Speaker 3: defense and they added all these pieces and sometimes those
Speaker 3: things work out, sometimes they don't. But it's like Miles
Speaker 3: Garrett on that last play, he has not had support
Speaker 3: around him in years, and so if he does now
Speaker 3: and we already saw what he did without support, it's
Speaker 3: kind of scary because even guys like Grant delp It
Speaker 3: today were like showing up in a way where it's like,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen this guy play this way before against
Speaker 3: a team like this. I don't know what to think.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that speaks to the transformation, is that guys like
Speaker 12: Grant Delpit, who was lost in Joe Wood's defense, was
Speaker 12: arguably their best defender today.
Speaker 11: He led the team in tackles.
Speaker 12: He was there to clean up multiple receptions, stopping guys
Speaker 12: short the sticks on third down, all over the field
Speaker 12: all day. Every defensive back was really like that. No
Speaker 12: matter where they threw him, they were always right in
Speaker 12: the hip pocket. I was just completely stunned by how
Speaker 12: effective they were and consistent they were after how bad
Speaker 12: they'd been with arguably the same personnel, safe for some
Speaker 12: changes in the front four. But you're right, Mark, you know,
Speaker 12: Miles Geartt does have a little bit of help this time.
Speaker 12: So Darius Smith looked really good in his first game
Speaker 12: with the Browns, and the change that they made really
Speaker 12: contributed to a total defensive effort to where we didn't
Speaker 12: have to talk about whether Deshaun Watson played well or
Speaker 12: not because they were so good defensively it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's crazy getting Jadavian Clowney out of a locker room.
Speaker 1: What that could do?
Speaker 3: Oh, transformative.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had two point six yards per attempt. That
Speaker 1: is like, that's that's blamed. That's sub Gabbard zone. That's
Speaker 1: half of the Gabbard zone.
Speaker 3: I do like his comments, though he owned it and
Speaker 3: sort of said like this is what happens when your
Speaker 3: guy doesn't see you know, training camp practices or reps
Speaker 3: or even a single preseason snapped that like, yeah, they
Speaker 3: had a slow start last year. He's had one of
Speaker 3: the worst luck for off seasons around by star quarterback.
Speaker 3: And it happened again, and it showed up again.
Speaker 11: Well they also that was really evident when in that game.
Speaker 12: It's just that like they look like they were rusty,
Speaker 12: like they hadn't had a lot of reps together. But
Speaker 12: for you stat nerds, just to finish that point there,
Speaker 12: Joe Burrow completion percentage over expected negative thirteen point nine
Speaker 12: today is worst CPOE performance of his career.
Speaker 4: It feels it feels more significant than them steamrolling the
Speaker 4: Bengals in very similar fashion in primetime halfway through last season.
Speaker 4: I mean, that did happen, but that did happen, And
Speaker 4: that's where we started the show wondering, like, Okay, which
Speaker 4: Week one games are going to totally stick?
Speaker 5: Is this just a division thing?
Speaker 4: To me, just from the outside, it says probably more
Speaker 4: about where the Browns could go defensively than it does
Speaker 4: about the Bengals.
Speaker 5: But but it's it's concerning Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: After the game he had made some comments apparently. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you were tracking it shook about Elves mocking your
Speaker 2: mascot guy at center.
Speaker 3: Mascot guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: It's a mythical bean.
Speaker 5: They paint the elve on the field, you know.
Speaker 2: I know that, But I still don't know like what
Speaker 2: it is and how it relates to the Browns. I've
Speaker 2: never quite but it's a fair question.
Speaker 5: I think I think what Jamara was getting at.
Speaker 2: In the locker room, not happy and and owning up
Speaker 2: to Uh, maybe you shouldn't have said so much about that.
Speaker 13: It's frustrating because I called the ass Elves and we
Speaker 13: just lost as an LS, So I'm pissed on my
Speaker 13: I'm not I'm pissed on that. And like I said, man,
Speaker 13: we got missed opportunities. We didn't capitalize on this and
Speaker 13: we lost.
Speaker 2: And that's how we loved m Rough Rough star for Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the quarterbacks real quick? Did Burrow real quick?
Speaker 2: Did Burrow look healthy to you? Was he moving well?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 11: And then finally just looked like he was harassed?
Speaker 4: All with that we should mention since our last show
Speaker 4: he signed a contract that makes him the richest play
Speaker 4: it did in the league.
Speaker 5: Oh you did, you did? Did?
Speaker 2: And then Deshaun Watson, Gregg should mention it after you. Yes,
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. Obviously he was not the deciding factor in
Speaker 2: this game. What did you see from him? In the
Speaker 2: sloppy conditions?
Speaker 12: Early pressure made him very skittish and it took him
Speaker 12: a while to settle in. He missed a lot of throws,
Speaker 12: something that had to do with whether it was similar
Speaker 12: to what Burrow was doing, which is a lot of
Speaker 12: these passes just died just right into the ground. Both
Speaker 12: him and Watson were doing that. Some of them were
Speaker 12: just bad throws. But he did put it together on
Speaker 12: a few drives. There was one drive that ended in
Speaker 12: a Jerome Ford fumble where he was pretty solid, and
Speaker 12: then he threw a touchdown pass late in that game
Speaker 12: as well. So I give him like a C plus
Speaker 12: B minus effort. I mean, it wasn't great, but you
Speaker 12: know they won the game.
Speaker 2: Maybe he won't have to do it all alone on
Speaker 2: this team. The way it looked in Week one, shooky,
Speaker 2: you are flying high. I could tell you got a
Speaker 2: little skip in your step. Enjoy your Sunday night. And
Speaker 2: we'll see you again next week.
Speaker 11: I'll skip on out of here, guys.
Speaker 1: See, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we will
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Speaker 1: Hit it.
Speaker 10: Fields takes the SNAM, scans the secondary with time now,
Speaker 10: fires it up in the middle, cutting what breaks it?
Speaker 12: Tackle spins to a.
Speaker 1: Slap wat fifty oh.
Speaker 3: Touchdown.
Speaker 7: Had an opening day dagger.
Speaker 2: Oh big funk behind the glass. He's a Packers fan,
Speaker 2: right he had his arm up and finger outstretch like
Speaker 2: name it that the Orange Bowl six watching you know listen.
Speaker 2: We were told then that was of course Wayne Larravie WRNW.
Speaker 2: We were told, is this the bearst time to take
Speaker 2: over the NFC North?
Speaker 1: Not so fast.
Speaker 2: The Packers began life without Aaron Rodgers with an easy
Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty win and Soldier Field. It was
Speaker 2: not as close as that final score seems to indicate.
Speaker 2: Mark Jordan Love gets a victory in this first Week
Speaker 2: one start, and the Green Bay defense didn't seemed to
Speaker 2: be phased by Justin Fields and his new collection of weapons.
Speaker 3: They were not phased by Chicago's offensive line, that is
Speaker 3: for sure, and I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 3: But before that pick six happened, which obviously the game
Speaker 3: fully out of hand at that point. You know, we
Speaker 3: went into this thing wondering, well, maybe post Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: of Aaron, if Love is just middle of the road,
Speaker 3: then a team like Chicago, who was getting a lot
Speaker 3: of positive buzz for months, might be ready to make
Speaker 3: a leap and become an eight to nine win team.
Speaker 3: They got a long way to go. And I want
Speaker 3: to just say, like the Jordan Love, like for all
Speaker 3: the years of like being in the middle of this,
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers brew o haha, just came out and had
Speaker 3: an incredible game, and I thought he got better and
Speaker 3: better as the game went on. There was a on
Speaker 3: the drive before that pick six. There's a moment where
Speaker 3: Love took a snap, bobbled it to his feet, had
Speaker 3: the awareness to pick it back up, looked down the field,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times he did a good job
Speaker 3: of looking off the first guy. You know, it's like
Speaker 3: a little bit beyond his time on that front. In
Speaker 3: this case, whipped it thirty seven yards downfield to Luke Musgrave,
Speaker 3: who made a pretty great catch but then kind of
Speaker 3: fell a part of that point. Minutes later, Romeo Dobbs
Speaker 3: like pinpoint, passing the end zone his third touchdown of
Speaker 3: the day. You come out looking at Jordan Love and
Speaker 3: saying Jordan Love's third touchdown. You come out of this
Speaker 3: looking at what he did in this start with a
Speaker 3: lot of people not around him. I mean, Jaden Reid
Speaker 3: got hurt at one point, No Christian Watson, So you're
Speaker 3: working with what you have, and I just thought he
Speaker 3: made play after play. It wasn't perfect out of the gate.
Speaker 3: But then you get Aaron Jones who just dominated Chicago's
Speaker 3: and I think, I look at Chicago and it's like,
Speaker 3: outside of Yannick and Gockway, you can't really rush the passer.
Speaker 3: And if you're Justin Fields who got brutalized in this,
Speaker 3: it's like we saw him get hurt down the stretch.
Speaker 5: Last year.
Speaker 3: Their offensive line put Justin Fields in peril over and over,
Speaker 3: and this is a good defense. This is the best
Speaker 3: you're gonna face. They went and spent a lot of
Speaker 3: resources on their offensive line, draft picks, added some guys,
Speaker 3: and it just didn't look like it nightmare it was,
Speaker 3: and like it was in Chicago, and I cannot. I
Speaker 3: will watch the rest of these games, we all will,
Speaker 3: but it's like I don't really recall too many games
Speaker 3: where it started with such a crescendoing sense of hope
Speaker 3: at Soldier Field and then by the end of the
Speaker 3: third quarter, booze raining down, total frustration, old frustrated.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Thursday, what an opportunity this
Speaker 1: was as a clean the slate, new era in the
Speaker 1: NFC North, new era for the Bears. And again what
Speaker 1: we said at the top of the show, it's just
Speaker 1: one week.
Speaker 2: But when Justin Fields and what's supposed to be a
Speaker 2: superstar year after you gave up chance to have the
Speaker 2: number one overall pick, can't get protected and it still
Speaker 2: looks like the same old Bears blocking. And then you,
Speaker 2: after years of Aaron Rodgers bullying you, you let Jordan
Speaker 2: Love come into your building and throw three touchdowns. It's
Speaker 2: just not a good look, Greg.
Speaker 4: And it's one week, but you're gonna have to win
Speaker 4: in lambeau Field later in the season or you got
Speaker 4: swept by your division rivals. Like these division games in
Speaker 4: Week one mean a little more to me, and this
Speaker 4: one especially, I just wonder, like, what is your identity
Speaker 4: if if if you're the Bears, because if you're the Packers,
Speaker 4: you think man Watson didn't even suit up for this game,
Speaker 4: Bachtiari did. I want to apologize to to our listeners
Speaker 4: for just making it sound like David Bochderry's not gonna
Speaker 4: play in this game. I should have known he is
Speaker 4: the greatest of all time of never practicing and just
Speaker 4: playing anyways.
Speaker 11: I mean he had he looks like who hold the phone?
Speaker 4: He had practice in like three weeks and he was
Speaker 4: and he he made the Alan Iverson joke after after
Speaker 4: the game He's like practice, Like I don't need practice, and.
Speaker 1: He takes veteran weeks.
Speaker 4: Right, He's out there and they got three QB hits
Speaker 4: on him. Where on the other side, the Packers have
Speaker 4: to feel good. Lucas VanNess makes it play DeVante why
Speaker 4: it makes a play some of their young guys. It's
Speaker 4: like this is a very good organizational type of win
Speaker 4: for Lafleur.
Speaker 5: I'm sure this was.
Speaker 3: Very Yeah, they kept like kind of flashing up to
Speaker 3: Bears management and you could just sort of see like, well,
Speaker 3: the rebuild is just this is a legit rebuild. You
Speaker 3: were the worst team in the league last year. I
Speaker 3: thought that, you know, DJ Morris, like, is DJ mortganage,
Speaker 3: Like help Fields make a jump and a leap, and
Speaker 3: it's like they've got to find a way to get
Speaker 3: him involved. Earlier, he didn't even get a target until
Speaker 3: like their third.
Speaker 1: Or fourth try it twice the entire game, right, So.
Speaker 3: But I will say one thing on this. On one
Speaker 3: drive he had two catches, and that is when I thought,
Speaker 3: maybe the Bears can turn this around because DJ Moore
Speaker 3: is the kind of wide receiver that Bears fans, automatics, physical,
Speaker 3: they just like you could tell they loved him. But
Speaker 3: then he vanished totally gone.
Speaker 2: He was targeted twice in one drive. Yeah, never again
Speaker 2: before or aft.
Speaker 3: I mean, but also that speaks to it speaks to
Speaker 3: the total chaos that Fields was dealing with. And it
Speaker 3: was like he had a bad fumble one point, just
Speaker 3: like Fields is not gonna survive, or I guess he won't.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough to grow if this is what
Speaker 3: he's dealing with.
Speaker 4: It's a bad combo too, because he holds onto the
Speaker 4: ball a lot and he takes a little while sometimes
Speaker 4: to make his decisions, so that combination with a bad
Speaker 4: offensive line just kind of compounds it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as bad as the start was for the Bears,
Speaker 2: like we're saying perfect, I mean in a very sensitive
Speaker 2: time for the Packers as an organization, Aaron Rodgers about
Speaker 2: to take the field for the Jets on Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: Now you can go watch that game and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: Aaron whatever, and how about we're moving forward?
Speaker 3: And you know it's like, oh, Matt lafora only winning
Speaker 3: games because Aaron Rodgers was there, Like this was a
Speaker 3: great job by him, preparing everyone to get to this place.
Speaker 2: Ta, we can do it without Aaron. That's what they're
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Speaker 1: First town was.
Speaker 14: Essentially in this game block is only have one time
Speaker 14: outlet Hooper, the tight end goes to the right motion.
Speaker 5: Here come the Broncos with pressure. Hey pick it up.
Speaker 7: Garoppolo, still with time in the pocket, escapes out to
Speaker 7: the thirty five.
Speaker 5: Get to the thirty hen he gets out of attack of.
Speaker 1: The twenty five ye.
Speaker 13: Jason Bomba the first down, he polo with his legs
Speaker 13: about to seal this game for the Raiders here in
Speaker 13: Denver with an eight yard scramble.
Speaker 3: Oo Jason Harrowinz missed the note on that shared Uh, well,
Speaker 3: I ain't.
Speaker 5: I'm just watching the monitor there.
Speaker 4: And Jimmy Garoppolo was Swagger incarnate when he.
Speaker 5: Got up from that. That was awesome.
Speaker 1: And you hear it all the time about Jimmy G.
Speaker 2: Maybe not the most talented quarterbacks, certainly not the most
Speaker 2: durable passer, but his teammates love him. He's a he's
Speaker 2: a good leader on that team. And this is a
Speaker 2: type of win seventeen sixteen over the Broncos in Denver
Speaker 2: that really kind of provides a lift for a Raiders
Speaker 2: organization that you know, in the in the week leading
Speaker 2: up to the game, there are some bad vibes around
Speaker 2: this team, and for Jimmy G to make that scramblem
Speaker 2: not known for making plays with his legs and seal
Speaker 2: that game, big time, big time for Jimmy G and
Speaker 2: company a one point win. Garoppolo threw two touchdown passes
Speaker 2: to fellow newcomer Jacoby Myers in the game, and Sean
Speaker 2: Payton's start with the Denver Broncos is not as he
Speaker 2: envisioned it either.
Speaker 1: So I thought this was an interesting game.
Speaker 2: Wasn't the uh, maybe the most exciting game, but it
Speaker 2: was a It was two teams that are to me
Speaker 2: felt very evenly matched, and you saw it.
Speaker 1: It went right down to the end with the Raiders
Speaker 1: taking it.
Speaker 3: Well, and it was there was the first kind of
Speaker 3: there were a lot of injuries today but in around
Speaker 3: the league, but out of the gate. It was like
Speaker 3: the first time our newsroom had sort of a collective sigh.
Speaker 3: Was that you saw Jimmy g you know, on the
Speaker 3: ground with what looked like maybe a head injury, but
Speaker 3: then he comes back in and it seemed to completely
Speaker 3: change things. It's like I have been as down on
Speaker 3: the Raiders as possible. I don't think the Broncos are
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl contender here, so, uh, you know, you
Speaker 3: eked out a nice win. But when I look across
Speaker 3: the way, Sean Payton's number one chore was fixing up
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, and it looks like we got a bit
Speaker 3: of a different version. It wasn't an explosion, but Cleaner.
Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty good.
Speaker 2: I don't think he he didn't look like maybe the
Speaker 2: playmaker of yesteryear during his Seattle heyday. But certainly Cleaner
Speaker 2: moved well, I thought, in and around the pocket. Threw
Speaker 2: two touchdown passes through good balls to Myers on the
Speaker 2: on the scores, there were other plays that kind of
Speaker 2: got bogged down.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dinking and dunking.
Speaker 2: You know, average five point two yards per attempt, so
Speaker 2: you're gonna pop it in there and you're gonna say,
Speaker 2: all right, he's he had a he had a very
Speaker 2: fortunate to have a a fumble early in the third
Speaker 2: quarter overturned on penalty. But overall, did you know, a
Speaker 2: better job protecting the football, which is something that was
Speaker 2: a major issue for him last year. Only took two
Speaker 2: sacks in this game. That was an improvement. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it looks like he's better coached. He looks physically better,
Speaker 2: and he's moving better. But still they scored sixteen points
Speaker 2: right game at home, and it's like, you just wonder
Speaker 2: who's the playmaker on this team right now?
Speaker 1: Because I don't see the guy jumping out at us.
Speaker 3: Well, they're leading receivers running back in the tight end.
Speaker 4: Right with samaj p Ryan was a leading receiver in
Speaker 4: Adam Troutman, who Sean Payton brought over from New Orleans
Speaker 4: is like a backup level tight end. It's worrisome. Jerry
Speaker 4: Judy didn't play in this game, and I heard a
Speaker 4: lot of positive Yeah. I was curious of how Russell
Speaker 4: Wilson looked because they ended that second quarter well and
Speaker 4: everyone's like, wow, that was almost a perfect half by
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. But then you do look up at the
Speaker 4: end of the game and they end up with two
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty yards of offense and twenty two first
Speaker 4: down So that to me tells me you're about as
Speaker 4: unexplosive as possible, Like you're struggling to get to that
Speaker 4: first down and then you get to it again.
Speaker 5: And it is one of those games.
Speaker 4: Though when you look at the stats, there was only
Speaker 4: six drives by the Broncos. There might not be a
Speaker 4: team all season that has let that's about the minimum
Speaker 4: you can possibly have. So it's just like one of
Speaker 4: those long, slow drive type of games where neither team
Speaker 4: really has the ball much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think maybe the difference for this game
Speaker 2: with Wilson was. It was kind of similar to the
Speaker 2: stilted offense of last year with Hackett, but without the
Speaker 2: turnovers and all those backbreaking mistakes that he was making.
Speaker 1: Difference, it's progress.
Speaker 2: I think if you're a Broncos than he's like, all right,
Speaker 2: it looked a little better, but now we got to
Speaker 2: get We gotta get Jerry Judy on the field. We
Speaker 2: got to get Courtland Sutton more involved, adult Chit's there,
Speaker 2: tight end. He goes out with an injury. He's an
Speaker 2: important player for them as well, so you take him
Speaker 2: out of the mix. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: serious injury. We'll know more by tomorrow, you know, but
Speaker 2: there you go for the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I did like Sean Payton right out of the gate
Speaker 3: back in the league, goes for the on sides kick
Speaker 3: on the opening kick, and it seemed like they maybe
Speaker 3: got it, and then they reversed in that sort of deflating.
Speaker 2: Bringing back memories the Super Bowl with the Saints when
Speaker 2: they that is so showing.
Speaker 1: Peyton by the way, totally. I love it.
Speaker 2: It's it's a move that screams like, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty gutsy guy.
Speaker 1: I take chances. Hey, look at me. That's part of
Speaker 1: it as well.
Speaker 4: Also a little bit like I've been saying, like a
Speaker 4: guy playing the greatest hits at the end of it, a.
Speaker 2: Little bit that it's like, hey, look at me. Remember
Speaker 2: when I did that. I'm doing it again because I'm back.
Speaker 2: It was a little bit about and it came with
Speaker 2: then a hair of being recovered to which would have
Speaker 2: been badass, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: So le Bronco's close. But no, Cigar Raiders get the winning.
Speaker 2: Good job because you got Buffalo next week and the
Speaker 2: Steelers the week after that, so that's a big w
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 3: Let's keep Apparently the Steelers are an object of nothing
Speaker 3: at this point, though.
Speaker 1: Well this week they were. Don't you never know? Mark
Speaker 1: hanging there.
Speaker 3: I'm already slightly peaked by the season.
Speaker 2: You haven't watched that game yet, have you. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be even crazier when you watch it. Was it was
Speaker 2: that bad. Let's move on to another game that didn't
Speaker 2: make any sense based on what we perceived football to
Speaker 2: be ahead of Sunday.
Speaker 1: Let's head to Seattle, goorth And.
Speaker 7: Going from inside the Larne Acres, the single back stafford
Speaker 7: under center brings two two in motion.
Speaker 3: It's a toss left to Acres pill go oh, that
Speaker 3: was easy touch.
Speaker 7: On fourth of goal from the one Acres to Peters
Speaker 7: and the Rams have a double digit lead.
Speaker 1: No, they talk about all Los Angeles. It's just a
Speaker 1: big sprawl of the city. That's JB. Long.
Speaker 2: Guess what Me and JB go to the same barber,
Speaker 2: small town life in the big city.
Speaker 4: A great friend and neighbor of the Wesselings and a
Speaker 4: friend of our show.
Speaker 1: How about that? I guess it is a community point
Speaker 1: made Rams Radio.
Speaker 7: JB.
Speaker 5: Long, Mayberry by the sea.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford threw for three hundred and thirty four yards
Speaker 2: without Cooper cup Cam Acres jogged into the end zone
Speaker 2: one of three touchdown runs and them stunned the Seahawks
Speaker 2: thirty to thirteen in Seattle.
Speaker 1: The Pacific Northwest. In shock, Mark, you're in shock. You
Speaker 1: fucked them up?
Speaker 3: I am again. I said, there's already a couple of
Speaker 3: things that are thorns in the side. I like a
Speaker 3: good comeback story.
Speaker 1: Same.
Speaker 2: SI's Matt Stafford fifty eight three hundred yard passing game
Speaker 2: in his career. I like that because it's like a
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford. Hey, I'm not dead. I'm not dead yet.
Speaker 2: I won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Oh, Cooper,
Speaker 2: Cut's not playing. We're gonna win three games. Look what
Speaker 2: you just did. Nice job by Attie, Stafford and Coump.
Speaker 4: I mean not just I'm not dead. Maybe I'm the
Speaker 4: best quarterback in the league this week. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I saw a quarterback play any better. I know,
Speaker 4: fantasy wise, you didn't get a touchdown out of it.
Speaker 4: That's unfortunately. You got three short rushing touchdowns too, out
Speaker 4: of Kyra and Williams. It might be a nice little
Speaker 4: fantasy pickup for you. But Stafford took these young receivers,
Speaker 4: Puka Nakua. We've been talking them up in this offseason.
Speaker 4: Ten for one to nineteen Are you kidding me? A
Speaker 4: rookie third round pick to to out well. Give credit
Speaker 4: to Sean McVay. He's been trying to make two too
Speaker 4: out well a thing for three years. He's finally a thing.
Speaker 4: Six for one to nineteen. Two receivers I think twenty
Speaker 4: three years and undergoing over one hundred yards and Stafford
Speaker 4: putting dimes all over the field. A couple throws that
Speaker 4: just almost no other quarterback in the NFL could make
Speaker 4: and really supporting what everyone said that was up at
Speaker 4: Rams camp that said, like, man, Stafford looks good this preseason, and.
Speaker 5: He looked trim.
Speaker 4: There was a great run that he made that was
Speaker 4: very crucial, and I came out of this game just thinking,
Speaker 4: my god, Matthew Stafford, for as long as he stays upright,
Speaker 4: and maybe maybe it's just facing a Seahawks pass rush
Speaker 4: that was non existent, as long as he stays upright,
Speaker 4: he's gonna ball.
Speaker 5: That was really impressive.
Speaker 3: I became concerned about the lock part of this, which
Speaker 3: is a minor story to most every human except myself,
Speaker 3: but early on because.
Speaker 1: I like, for you, it's the overriding storyline of the.
Speaker 3: Entire no But it's like you're watching these things. It's
Speaker 3: more like, when do you start to feel like maybe
Speaker 3: you didn't have all the information on the way that
Speaker 3: Sean McVay felt about his own roster, at least on offense,
Speaker 3: for sure. But Jordan rod Reeg wrote that that opening
Speaker 3: sixteen play scoring drives sixteen plays seventy five yards, ate
Speaker 3: up a lot of time, was about as physical, she
Speaker 3: wrote as I've seen them play in years. And you know,
Speaker 3: if you think, if you think back to when the
Speaker 3: Rams have been dinged, when they were like wiped out
Speaker 3: on Monday Night that a couple of years ago by
Speaker 3: the Niners, was like, oh, maybe they're not as physical
Speaker 3: as some of these other teams like that they go
Speaker 3: up against. It's like maybe they're rebranding what they are
Speaker 3: and this is one game. But it's like, if you're
Speaker 3: gonna get that version of Stafford and if these young
Speaker 3: guys grow around them, get cut back like they're not
Speaker 3: gonna win three games, They're gonna win more than that,
Speaker 3: they're gonna win double that.
Speaker 2: Gino three for one hundred and twelve yards in this
Speaker 2: game on twenty six attempts. All we talked about through
Speaker 2: the summer I heard about Greg Gain the summer was
Speaker 2: this is a team, the Rams, that had no names
Speaker 2: other than Aaron Donald that you really could bank on.
Speaker 2: And yet they go up there and Ginos the comeback
Speaker 2: player of the year last year, they shut down this
Speaker 2: passing game.
Speaker 1: I know DK metcalf. I think he was three for
Speaker 1: forty second forty seven and a touch in the second
Speaker 1: quarter that's where he ended. Yes, he just shut the
Speaker 1: whole thing down it seems.
Speaker 4: I mean, the stats in the second half are preposterous.
Speaker 4: It was two hundred and fifty seven yards to three
Speaker 4: until Pete Carroll, who knows people are box score checking,
Speaker 4: went for a nine yard run with six seconds to go,
Speaker 4: you know, risking his running back getting hurt. So it
Speaker 4: ended up two fifty seven to twelve. That is out praidous.
Speaker 4: It was four straight plays, four straight drives that totaled
Speaker 4: I believe three yards before that, they did get one
Speaker 4: first down somehow by penalty in that mix and look,
Speaker 4: the first half actually kind of went as scripted offensively.
Speaker 4: They either scored or missed a field goal and ever
Speaker 4: possession Seattle, so it wasn't like they looked off kilter
Speaker 4: the whole game. But I really think it was a
Speaker 4: complimentary offense defense performance here where the Rams kept going
Speaker 4: on these long touchdown drives sixteen plays, ten plays, fourteen plays,
Speaker 4: the Seahawks get the ball back, they're mostly passing. They
Speaker 4: lose both their tackles in this game, which is definitely
Speaker 4: I think a big part of what happened in the
Speaker 4: second half. Abe Lucas and Charles Cross, who if you
Speaker 4: guys remember two rookie tackles who started all last year
Speaker 4: were a nice story. Both leave with injuries. One of
Speaker 4: them I think it was Lucas on a cart and
Speaker 4: suddenly like they could just couldn't get a first down.
Speaker 4: It was a little bit of pass rush. It was
Speaker 4: a little bit of timing. The Rams rookie linebacker Byron
Speaker 4: Young made a couple really nice plays, and suddenly at
Speaker 4: the end it's this Rams pass rush tee and off
Speaker 4: on Gino Smith. It was like fourth and forty or
Speaker 4: something on the last play. I couldn't believe it. It was
Speaker 4: the most surprising thing I saw.
Speaker 3: I am looking at the second half drive chart for Seattle.
Speaker 3: Five drives, two total yards. I mean, it's from a
Speaker 3: Rams team that got looked like they were gonna get
Speaker 3: run over, Like what does this say about Seattle's defense?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Wait, and the weird thing was that I think the
Speaker 4: Rams are gonna be so proud that they ran the
Speaker 4: ball forty times because they actually didn't run it very
Speaker 4: well per carry. I mean, Akers went twenty two for
Speaker 4: twenty nine, which is preposterous.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 5: But they just kept sticking at it.
Speaker 4: And I think it was what Jordan Rodrieg was talking
Speaker 4: about in terms of being physical. But you can only
Speaker 4: do that if you've got a freaking magician at quarterback,
Speaker 4: playing lights out and saving you in a lot of
Speaker 4: third down situations.
Speaker 5: And that's what Stafford did.
Speaker 1: Man the Rams, if this is a sign of things
Speaker 1: to come, are going to make a lot of people
Speaker 1: look stupid.
Speaker 3: Well almost everyone.
Speaker 4: Well, this is and I mentioned it historically a matchup
Speaker 4: that McVeigh has dominated, and even last year where the
Speaker 4: teams were so far apart, they were decided by one
Speaker 4: or two plays, and so I think it was a
Speaker 4: couple of different things coming together. But if I'm the Seahawks,
Speaker 4: I'm very concerned about those tackles, and I'm very concerned
Speaker 4: my defense had no pass rush.
Speaker 5: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: If you give Matt Stafford time, he can cut you up,
Speaker 4: and they they just had nothing going on getting after him.
Speaker 4: So maybe it's the old line for the Rams do
Speaker 4: getting better.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing before we move on. I always
Speaker 2: liked your theory. Greg there. What's your number you put out?
Speaker 1: There's five or six or seven NFL head coaches who
Speaker 1: matter will make a difference. Rams have one of them.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Maybe we shouldn't count him out. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: It's just one week. Let's take a break. Actually, should
Speaker 1: we take a break? What should we keep going? Probably
Speaker 1: sneaking another one in? All right, sneaking another one in.
Speaker 1: We're flying. Blew through? He blew through?
Speaker 5: Uh one of those games pretty quickly. I think it
Speaker 5: was the Raiders game.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna hear from them. There you move.
Speaker 4: What other podcast has been talking up your good defense
Speaker 4: for a month?
Speaker 5: You came through, Raiders?
Speaker 1: Raiders enjoy a moment. Get off our ace.
Speaker 3: First down at the twenty six yard line of the Colts.
Speaker 3: The clock is it four fifteen?
Speaker 10: R'SVTN tries the mountain outside, He's got a little bit
Speaker 10: of row, twenty fifteen yard line.
Speaker 6: The ice touchdown they have extendedly, How good.
Speaker 5: Is that twenty six yard touchdown run?
Speaker 1: Holy mackerel.
Speaker 2: Frank Franjie with the call, he does the games with
Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman. Nice nice little pass rusher for the Jets
Speaker 2: back in ninety two.
Speaker 1: Otherwise dark days w okv stmber working Remember Logoman?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely sure.
Speaker 2: Travis DTN's twenty six yard touchdown run with four oh
Speaker 2: eight to play. That was the clincher for the Jags,
Speaker 2: who overcame a costly gaff gaffe from Tank Bigsby and
Speaker 2: a thirty one to twenty one win over the Colts
Speaker 2: at Lucas Oil Stadium. Mark We'll get to Anthony Richardson's
Speaker 2: debut in a bit. Let's start with what you saw
Speaker 2: from the defending South Champs.
Speaker 3: A weird game like not certainly not the heights that
Speaker 3: we witnessed, the flawless Trevor Lawrence performances down the stretch
Speaker 3: last year. Took him a while to get going. They
Speaker 3: weren't really running the ball very well early on. They
Speaker 3: were struggling on third down at the Colts. I didn't
Speaker 3: expect this from the Colts, but they they really like
Speaker 3: made life tough for Trevor Lawrence. And it started with
Speaker 3: who I think will be the AFC Defensive Player of
Speaker 3: the week, whether or not they won the game or
Speaker 3: lost to Forest Buckner, who even when you just see
Speaker 3: him on television, looks like a front door coming at you.
Speaker 3: Sure a sack of forced fumble. There was a wacky
Speaker 3: play where like the ball was tipped to Lawrence pass
Speaker 3: and it kind of hit the ground and everyone sort
Speaker 3: of stood around looking at it and It's like, this
Speaker 3: isn't a dead ball. No one blew a whistle and
Speaker 3: Buckner picks it up and just rumbles in for a touchdown.
Speaker 4: The gaff I was, I'm gonna spread a sandwich on Buckner.
Speaker 4: Not defensive player of the week.
Speaker 1: I like TJ watch chances.
Speaker 3: He's just fine.
Speaker 5: He's on the Colts and he gave they gave up
Speaker 5: thirty one points. It's not five. They're just weird.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I just say, for your own enjoyment, go watch him.
Speaker 3: Just it was a dominant performance and like from a
Speaker 3: team that most people rode off, but the Lawrence made
Speaker 3: some throws down the stretch, and the biggest story for
Speaker 3: them is that Calvin Ridley looked phenomenal. He ate for
Speaker 3: one in a touchdown, and there was a couple of
Speaker 3: plays where it's like, I don't know what he was
Speaker 3: doing last year or what he did this offseason, but
Speaker 3: his because remember he played that entire season on what
Speaker 3: he said was a broken version of a broken foot
Speaker 3: and stole like a thousand yards. Like he looked as
Speaker 3: fast as I've ever seen him. He's a complete, immediate
Speaker 3: rain making difference maker for the Jaguars. But they're gonna
Speaker 3: have better days than today.
Speaker 5: Don't say rain maker with Calvin Ridley though, that that
Speaker 5: is something.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's actually very fair. Please, But you're right, I.
Speaker 1: Was trying to make that was a tricky one. That
Speaker 1: was a tricky one.
Speaker 3: But he looked great.
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, he exited the game in the final minute
Speaker 2: is not ideal. It looked like he was standing on
Speaker 2: the sideline. That not anything too serious. What did you
Speaker 2: see from him?
Speaker 1: Overall? I thought he's pretty good box score, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 3: I thought that, like for all the concept that he's
Speaker 3: gonna no matter what, it's gonna take him so long
Speaker 3: to kind of comfortable and the accuracy issues. Well coached today,
Speaker 3: but like made some throws show that he could kind
Speaker 3: of hit people all over the field, had a pretty
Speaker 3: a couple of great runs. He had a touchdown run.
Speaker 3: There was a one on one where he just blew
Speaker 3: up the middle of the team like on an RPO,
Speaker 3: just run for twelve yards, Like he's gonna be doing
Speaker 3: this all year. And I think that out of the
Speaker 3: gate because I think Greg you mentioned this, like, is
Speaker 3: it a disadvantage to get the cults early? Even if
Speaker 3: they're not a good team because you don't know what
Speaker 3: you're preparing for. With Richardson, the one thing that I thought,
Speaker 3: like Shane Steichen is gonna realize just doesn't carry over
Speaker 3: necessarily from his Eagles days. They were one for five
Speaker 3: on fourth downs and they tried to do the butt
Speaker 3: push with Richardson. He was stuffed. They had a couple
Speaker 3: they that it just didn't look as clean on Deon Jackson.
Speaker 3: You know, they miss they miss obviously Taylor and Deon
Speaker 3: Jackson had a bad fumble on North and one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they miss them all. Like he had two fumbles in
Speaker 3: this game. And so it's these little things where like
Speaker 3: the Colts deep into it is like they're gonna win
Speaker 3: this thing. Like the Jaguars just aren't separating.
Speaker 5: Wow, yeah they were winning. What halfway through the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: They just looked they looked like they could steal us.
Speaker 3: They did last shit.
Speaker 2: I thought Stichen was a little sleep of the switch too.
Speaker 2: They had a seventeen play drive late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: They're down ten, they get stopped, they're in the they're
Speaker 2: in field goal range. You can get it to seven
Speaker 2: and then kick it away and then maybe get a
Speaker 2: stop and have a chance to tie. They went for
Speaker 2: the seven, didn't get it and it was over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just they're just thin. And they had sixteen
Speaker 4: non Athena Richardson carries on the day for twenty five yards.
Speaker 4: And the whole idea is Stikeen. I think eventually is
Speaker 4: going to bring a good running game and Richardson will
Speaker 4: be a force multiplier. But for now that's rough. Although
Speaker 4: they did.
Speaker 5: Get your boy Jake Funk into an NFL game here
Speaker 5: Alec Pierce.
Speaker 4: Their second receiver also got hurt, and they're also they're
Speaker 4: a little thin at receiver to beginning.
Speaker 15: Yeah, Jake Funk, Jake, Jake fuck, Jake Funk, Jake forget
Speaker 15: about Jake Funk.
Speaker 3: Five yards per carry, got.
Speaker 1: Big Funk behind the glass, Randy Shop anything else, Mark, No.
Speaker 3: I'd say go watch it for yourselves. And what was
Speaker 3: the injury to Richardson exactly near the end of the
Speaker 3: game that I don't know, Like they didn't they weren't
Speaker 3: clear about that. He was like he walked, he he
Speaker 3: left the field, alright, It wasn't like.
Speaker 2: He was ostensibly the games on the line and it's
Speaker 2: still in the bounce and he's not on the field.
Speaker 3: It's hard to me. I think they're playing it safe
Speaker 3: with him. But we'll wait and see.
Speaker 4: What's one of those little wins too, where it's like
Speaker 4: they were trailing here. It's like at the end of
Speaker 4: the season when they're going to be hoping to win
Speaker 4: this division and battling for seeds.
Speaker 5: It's like he's put it in your pocket. Put in
Speaker 5: your pocket, pocket, pocket, win pocket.
Speaker 3: That wasn't an escape, but they just took him.
Speaker 1: While the heat up to Baltimore, we go.
Speaker 10: Beckham to the left, Flowers to the right. Now Flowers
Speaker 10: goes in most of the left Jackson inside handoff, Justice
Speaker 10: Hill spins.
Speaker 7: In for six touchdown raven.
Speaker 9: That works too, same speed week look taking a Toza,
Speaker 9: giving the ball back into a counter, coming back across
Speaker 9: the field, finding their rhythm.
Speaker 1: No in the second half for this offense, and.
Speaker 10: After the defense stops the Texans on a fourth and one,
Speaker 10: the offense.
Speaker 2: Cash is in MM Jerry Sandusky with Rod Woodson on
Speaker 2: the call w B A L. Justice Hill scored twice
Speaker 2: in the second half after JK. Dobbins exited with an
Speaker 2: achilles injury. More on that in a second. The Ravens
Speaker 2: pull away twenty five to nine win over the Texans.
Speaker 2: Baltimore had just two hundred and sixty five total yards.
Speaker 1: In this game.
Speaker 2: Lamar turned them all over twice, but the defense did
Speaker 2: the job against CJ. Stroud in his NFL debut. Greg
Speaker 2: the Ravens Bank will win start the year, but at
Speaker 2: a serious cost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have unfortunately lost JK. Dobbins here for the season.
Speaker 4: It's a torn achilles according to our guy, Ian Rapport,
Speaker 4: I mean rappaport, and this is one of those injuries
Speaker 4: that you know right away had that thing before they
Speaker 4: came out of halftime, and you know the injury was
Speaker 4: late in the second quarter. I'm just thinking, man, what
Speaker 4: a deflating way to like come out of the locker
Speaker 4: room if you're John Harbaugh, who probably at least had
Speaker 4: that information even if the teammates didn't. And then by
Speaker 4: the end of the game, Ronnie Stanley, who to me
Speaker 4: is a real bell Weather for this team, leaves with
Speaker 4: a knee injury, although they don't think it's serious. And
Speaker 4: I did see him kind of celebrating later in the game,
Speaker 4: so that's a good time. But he's getting an MRI.
Speaker 4: Marcus Williams, their great safety is getting an MRI, and
Speaker 4: then they're starting center Tyler Linderbaum got his ankle rolled up.
Speaker 4: Just eyeball test that Linderbaum one did not look great either.
Speaker 4: So a lot of positives for the Ravens and then
Speaker 4: major negatives there.
Speaker 2: Here's a harball on Dobbins, who you may recall was
Speaker 2: trying to get a contract ahead of this year and
Speaker 2: now kind of a devastating personal setback.
Speaker 16: JK has a torn killing unfortunately, so that's going to
Speaker 16: end his season. That's just feel bad for him. It's
Speaker 16: not the way we expected just to go, and he's
Speaker 16: worked really hard. But Jk's a strong minded individual. He's
Speaker 16: got a big heart, very large spirit, and he's going
Speaker 16: to bounce back from this as well.
Speaker 3: I mean so torn Achilles also leaves and questioned what
Speaker 3: he'd even look like when he returns, you know, a
Speaker 3: year from now. If it's then like you've lost your
Speaker 3: best running back, wait and see on two fifths of
Speaker 3: your offensive line. We already talked about how how like
Speaker 3: shallow this cornerback group was, so to lose your safety
Speaker 3: behind them, it's like we're three or four hours into
Speaker 3: their season and they're in tatters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they survived training camp for once without
Speaker 4: major injuries, and they'll come out of this hoping that
Speaker 4: Dobbins is the only one that's really long term. But
Speaker 4: that's that's what we'll have to wait till to Monday
Speaker 4: to find out. He could be multiple weak injuries. The
Speaker 4: the positive is some of the things they talked about
Speaker 4: all off season in the room to me, bore fruit,
Speaker 4: I mean Zay Flowers. They've they've missed on so many
Speaker 4: of these draft picks over the years with the wide receivers,
Speaker 4: and as long as he's healthy, man, Jay Flowers a hit,
Speaker 4: we don't need to We don't need to see anymore
Speaker 4: seven for or nine for seventy eight, and man, it
Speaker 4: was nice to have an offensive cordnerator creatively mixing up
Speaker 4: touches for a specific receiver, in this case Flowers funk
Speaker 4: and pop, and a guy making plays for Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 4: just like whenever they needed to play Zay Flowers very
Speaker 4: much was the guy making it on his own.
Speaker 3: I do think Monkin's got to work on his uh
Speaker 3: when they because he's up in the booth. He's not
Speaker 3: a sideline guy like they cut up to him. And
Speaker 3: I know things were a little shaky out of the gate,
Speaker 3: but every time they showed Monk and he looked kind
Speaker 3: of frazzled and nervous as he get just gotta work on,
Speaker 3: like I got this under control. He just struck me
Speaker 3: that way because.
Speaker 4: They were a little frazzled offensively, Like this game, the
Speaker 4: score and everything it was it wasn't that competitive, but
Speaker 4: they only had two hundred and sixty five yards of offense.
Speaker 4: Lamar was kind of sloppy. I mean he had an interception,
Speaker 4: he had had two fumbles. Uh, it wasn't like the
Speaker 4: cleanest offensive performance, but their defense was too good.
Speaker 1: What did you see from Stroud in his debut?
Speaker 4: I actually saw a lot of good I think he
Speaker 4: made five or six throws in this game that just
Speaker 4: made you excited if you're a Texans fan. Their offensive line, though,
Speaker 4: was a total mess and didn't give him a chance
Speaker 4: for much of the game, Like there was a lot
Speaker 4: of pressure on him. I think if you're a Ravens fan,
Speaker 4: David Ajabo where they're hoping can make some impacts, stepped
Speaker 4: up a dafe Oway, Like their pass rush really got
Speaker 4: after it. They had an injury on their offensive line too,
Speaker 4: but Stroud made some big clunking mistakes and some really
Speaker 4: nice plays too.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 5: And by the way, Odell Beckham back in the league.
Speaker 1: Did he look like Godell two catches.
Speaker 4: Yes, he didn't have a catch until late in the
Speaker 4: third quarter, but he did have two nice catches and
Speaker 4: drew two pass interferences. Bateman had a couple plays. It
Speaker 4: was like they did enough where it's like, okay, you
Speaker 4: see the beginnings of it.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So we'll head from Baltimore to Minnesota, where the Vikings
Speaker 2: set an NFL record going eleven to zero in one
Speaker 2: score games. Weller alert another one score games or their
Speaker 2: twenty three season with a different outcome.
Speaker 1: Both of heirs line up in a shotgun formation.
Speaker 9: Third down ten to two minutes left, are snapped good bell.
Speaker 1: High tho farce and it's clock Bawl. Is it in bounds?
Speaker 1: It is bounds that Godwin has a huge catch plump.
Speaker 1: Third down to ten. It's a diving catch on the
Speaker 1: far sideline. Cane this game.
Speaker 5: Now, this is a ten yard speed out.
Speaker 10: The defender has his back to the sideline and Godwin
Speaker 10: makes a fingertip catch just beyond the first down marker,
Speaker 10: and we should be able to run it out from here.
Speaker 1: J Duckerhoff with the call wwus Baker to Godwin, you
Speaker 1: didn't hear that a lot in this game, but when
Speaker 1: it mattered most, the two connected on the strike that
Speaker 1: iced a twenty seventeen win for the over the Vikings.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it would be very very on brand
Speaker 1: for this particular Starcross franchise, the Vikings to go winless
Speaker 1: in one score games this year, putting him out there,
Speaker 1: just putting it out there. It's let's start with the Bucks.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to get to with the Vikings in
Speaker 1: this game, my god.
Speaker 2: But let me start with Baker, who looked utterly lost
Speaker 2: with the rest of the offense early in this game.
Speaker 2: But it all kind of changed on their last possession
Speaker 2: before halftime, Like the Vikings kept leaving the door open
Speaker 2: with dumb turnovers and not taking full advantage of opportunities.
Speaker 1: So there was this feeling that a game that the
Speaker 1: Vikings were totally in control of. Well it wasn't.
Speaker 2: So it was only ten to three when Baker takes
Speaker 2: over and goes right down the field sixty one yards
Speaker 2: in ninety seconds and hits Mike Evans in stride for
Speaker 2: a touchdown pass gets the game tied at half. Then
Speaker 2: he comes right out after the half and then Baker,
Speaker 2: And this is the thing we know about Baker. Baker
Speaker 2: is a very inconsistent quarterback who's prone to long lapses
Speaker 2: of ineffective play. But he'll get hot, he gets a
Speaker 2: little hot, and when he starts feeling himself a little bit,
Speaker 2: some of those gun slinger throws seem to find open
Speaker 2: receivers and the offense can start to move. So back
Speaker 2: to back he goes sixteen plays, seventy five yards for
Speaker 2: a touchdown, this time to Tray Palmer seven yards, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they go from down ten three
Speaker 2: to up seventeen to ten. The Vikings pull even in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter early in the fourth quarter, but then
Speaker 2: their offense just kind of goes to sleep. They can't
Speaker 2: find a way to make it work, and the Bucks
Speaker 2: kicked the fifty seven yard field goal. I thought Chase
Speaker 2: McLoughlin kind of bailed out Todd Bowles on a fourth
Speaker 2: and three that I thought they should have gone for it.
Speaker 1: But sometimes that's such a Todd Bowles decision.
Speaker 2: Sometimes though, like I say that, and it is very
Speaker 2: Todd Bowls and I felt like they should have gone
Speaker 2: for it, but man kickers hit fifty seven years now,
Speaker 2: it's in the dome and the perfect conditions, and he
Speaker 2: hit it, and then they made it stand up. After
Speaker 2: the Vikings go three and out on offense, Bryan Flores's
Speaker 2: defense needs to get a stop to get the ball
Speaker 2: back and he can't do it. And that was this game,
Speaker 2: the Bucks getting hot on offense and then the defense
Speaker 2: finding a way to kind of shut down justin Jefferson
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, and they kind of steal one here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I saw Mayfield also convert with his legs on a
Speaker 3: very Baker mayfieldish run. Yes, I got this start. I
Speaker 3: think he's obviously just fuels off of emotion and self emotion,
Speaker 3: what's going on around him, and probably all the doubts
Speaker 3: of people that just sort of rode him off entirely.
Speaker 3: I don't think any of this happens without these Vikings
Speaker 3: turnovers though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had three turnovers on the first half alone.
Speaker 2: They had an off sides on defense on fourth and
Speaker 2: less than five that took a three point field goal
Speaker 2: off the board and led to the touchdown in the
Speaker 2: third quarter by Tampa Bay that you know, look at
Speaker 2: the final score. That was painful, and uh, it was
Speaker 2: just it's that thing and you look at the you
Speaker 2: look at this.
Speaker 1: Is the thing about the Vikings. Oh my god, they'll
Speaker 1: just drive you crazy.
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins thirty three of forty four, three hundred and
Speaker 2: forty four yards, averaging nearly eight yards in attempt, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: a pick passer rating over one hundred. That's always a
Speaker 2: good past it's always a good box score. But then
Speaker 2: the game, you watch the game and it just it
Speaker 2: doesn't all come together. And the first the game plan
Speaker 2: in terms of a running game without Dalvin Cook was
Speaker 2: very stilted. They averaged less than two and a half
Speaker 2: yards per carry on seventeen rushes. They couldn't find a
Speaker 2: way even though Justin Jefferson finished with one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty yards he got the bulk of that in the
Speaker 2: first half, they couldn't find a way to make it
Speaker 2: happen in the second half. And it was just a
Speaker 2: lot of frustration and a game they had, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: no business losing. But maybe the margin of error is
Speaker 2: not as big as I realized. Between Tampa Bay and Minnesota,
Speaker 2: two teams that played very close game and one came
Speaker 2: out ahead.
Speaker 4: Was technically the biggest upset of the week because I
Speaker 4: think that the end closing line that was bigger in
Speaker 4: this game than it was even for the Lions or
Speaker 4: for the Rams, which which were both big upsets too.
Speaker 4: But the Vikings, like this is regression, like in game form,
Speaker 4: because they outgained them by like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: yards and then they lose at the end and there's
Speaker 4: a couple of little plays, But like, didn't the Vikings
Speaker 4: win so many games like that last year where they
Speaker 4: looked like the inferior team but they won it at
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 3: And also if you're like we're coming off we're coming
Speaker 3: off a week okay, where like the Lions, uh, everyone
Speaker 3: feels great about the Lions, you got to feel good
Speaker 3: about the Packers and the Vikings, Yeah, won the division
Speaker 3: last year. It's like this is about as big of
Speaker 3: a letdown in Week one as you could have imagined
Speaker 3: for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They when they got the touchdown to tie it up
Speaker 2: at seventeen, they have two more possessions after that, U
Speaker 2: three and out game three yards and punt three and
Speaker 2: out game three yards.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: And and I'm not gonna put it on floor, are
Speaker 2: the d But then they couldn't get the ball back
Speaker 2: in those last four minutes of game time, so it
Speaker 2: was just kind of the whole team did not have
Speaker 2: an ability to seize the moment. So while this doesn't
Speaker 2: make me feel necessarily bullish about the Bucks, it does
Speaker 2: plant a seed of doubt about the Vikings and everything
Speaker 2: that went well last year. What if things what they
Speaker 2: call it regression? Yeah, the regression of it all. And
Speaker 2: then if Claybond was next to me, he would say,
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with last season and this
Speaker 2: is this season. But I don't know this exists and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But I don't know sports. It's funny
Speaker 2: how things tend to balance out in that.
Speaker 3: I don't think claybon should like maybe maybe just like
Speaker 3: like all of us, stay quiet on one of the
Speaker 3: few offseason narratives that we all sort of hit on.
Speaker 3: The Vikings are regression?
Speaker 5: Are you telling the imaginary Claybond.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, if he's listening to this, I
Speaker 3: think there's a little more of mathematical like a.
Speaker 2: Lot of Clay don't want to put Pat in a
Speaker 2: situation where you can't answer to these comments. However, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Vikings won a lot of games like this last year,
Speaker 2: and this one they didn't. And I think that building's
Speaker 2: empening out in Minnesota today and they're like, wait.
Speaker 1: How did we lose that game? And last year every
Speaker 1: time there was a game like this is like, wow,
Speaker 1: how do we win that? They did well? One more
Speaker 1: weird note. This is courtesy of next Gen stats.
Speaker 2: For Sean White of the Bucks recorded a negative thirty
Speaker 2: eight rushing yards over expectation in this game.
Speaker 4: It's hard to do under expectation, I guess would be
Speaker 4: the way to do it, but I know that's how
Speaker 4: they say it.
Speaker 5: That's that's a tough spot.
Speaker 2: I don't know even how that works. That's beyond me,
Speaker 2: but that seems like something would be hard to do
Speaker 2: from that angle.
Speaker 1: It's an achievement minus thirty eight.
Speaker 5: Did he just trip and fall a couple of times?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that one's you know what, I'm Gonnaggie, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna put you on that one. I finished seventeen for
Speaker 1: thirty nine.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, when I watched this game, and I'm curious, second,
Speaker 4: I thought maybe this would be a good NFL plus.
Speaker 4: Next day watch because because it was so weird. But
Speaker 4: when I watched this one on game pass and NFL BUS,
Speaker 4: I will keep an eye on how he lost thirty
Speaker 4: seven yards, thank you under expectation.
Speaker 1: And then we could reconnect ahead of.
Speaker 5: So that's like, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. There's lots of break.
Speaker 3: Maybe they put the wrong person on that grade.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we will finish out the games.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's add to the Bayou. What's it to lane?
Speaker 1: That's you? How about the green wave they won this weekend?
Speaker 5: Joy get wide open.
Speaker 6: That is gonna be a touchdown too for sheet shut.
Speaker 1: Great name.
Speaker 2: Speaking of great names, little Jordan Humphrey scored a touchdown
Speaker 2: today in Denver.
Speaker 1: Friend of the Show, Yeah yes, kind Mike Keith with
Speaker 1: the call w g f X.
Speaker 2: Derek Carr in his Saints debut, passed for three hundred
Speaker 2: and five yards and a touchdown and a forty one
Speaker 2: yard passed to that man Rashid shahed on thirty six
Speaker 2: in the final minutes, helped the Saints run out the
Speaker 2: clock in a sixteen to fifteen win over the Titans.
Speaker 1: Who's on this one? I was Reggie.
Speaker 2: We just talked about a Vikings team and fan base
Speaker 2: that are sick about losing this game. I saw some
Speaker 2: angry Titans fans maybe Grave Digger in my feed and others.
Speaker 1: How do we not find a way against the Saints
Speaker 1: in this one?
Speaker 4: This was there were some questionable calls and we can
Speaker 4: get to that. But the Titans fans should stop crying
Speaker 4: because sometimes the game is won by who has the guts.
Speaker 4: You know, who's the bold team. And after getting beaten
Speaker 4: down in the first half, Derek Carr took four sacks
Speaker 4: and eight QB hits in the first half alone.
Speaker 5: This is out rated.
Speaker 4: Wow, he came back strong in the fourth quarter and
Speaker 4: I want to compare him to what Mike Crabel did
Speaker 4: late in this game. They had a second in fourteen.
Speaker 4: They're leading by a point. There, Derek Carr's first game
Speaker 4: of the Saints. The Titans are running short on timeouts.
Speaker 4: You think that the Saints would run the ball. Then no,
Speaker 4: they have faith in Derek Carr. They throw it on
Speaker 4: second and fourteen, eight yards to Michael Thomas. Okay, then
Speaker 4: it's third and medium. You think maybe they'll run, maybe
Speaker 4: they'll throw. We'll see.
Speaker 5: They dial it up forty one yards down the field.
Speaker 4: To Rashid Shaheed with the one point lead and they
Speaker 4: get it done. And comparing that to Mike Rabel who
Speaker 4: had one of the most cowardly field goals I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: oh No, on the eleven yard line with two and
Speaker 4: a half minutes to go. To me, that was different.
Speaker 4: The Titans played not to lose, the Saints played to win.
Speaker 1: And the Saints defense, to their credit, did not allow touchdown,
Speaker 1: picked off Ryan Tannehill three times, sacked him three times, stop.
Speaker 2: Tennessee on ten of twelve third down plays. Speaking of
Speaker 2: Grave Digger, our former producer shout out to Justin he
Speaker 2: said he thought it was Tannehill's worst game ever.
Speaker 1: Is a title.
Speaker 3: I mean, Hill has been underrated as a Titans quarterback
Speaker 3: from wire to wire, and I've always thought that, like
Speaker 3: he was more fun to watch in my type of
Speaker 3: passer than others out there. But when I see the
Speaker 3: three picks and eleven passes defense, was it Tannehill? Just
Speaker 3: like is he is he at the end? Or does he?
Speaker 3: Is he working with a cast of receivers who aren't
Speaker 3: getting open for him?
Speaker 4: I mean, on some level, two the receivers maybe weren't
Speaker 4: that open and he definitely forced him in there to
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins almost felt like desperate.
Speaker 5: But it was a nightmare game. If any if either.
Speaker 4: Of those guys behind him, Willis or Levis played well
Speaker 4: in the preseason, it was such a bad game, you'd
Speaker 4: already be here and talk about it. Because he had
Speaker 4: the three picks, there were two more that were dropped,
Speaker 4: and then there were two more plays that they dialed up.
Speaker 4: One was kind of a flea flicker type of play
Speaker 4: where they passed it back to Tannehill and it was
Speaker 4: a touchdown two oconquo and Tannehill just missed him. And
Speaker 4: then later I think it was the fourth quarter, they
Speaker 4: dialed up another like nicely does play and they get
Speaker 4: Tajy Spears, who looked really good in limited work. It
Speaker 4: was on the field quite a bit wide open down
Speaker 4: the field. Tannehill missed that too. So in Mike Rabel's defense,
Speaker 4: for a little context that that field goal that he kicked,
Speaker 4: it was fourth and six from the Saints eleven yard line,
Speaker 4: down four with two and a half minutes to go.
Speaker 3: Oh still wild and.
Speaker 4: So maybe, but what was I gotta say is like
Speaker 4: maybe it was just like.
Speaker 3: My quarterback stakes right now, zero confidence that they're gonna write.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna kick through the wars together.
Speaker 2: And you got gotten to that Hopkins on your team
Speaker 2: now one of the great red zone receivers in the
Speaker 2: last fifteen years.
Speaker 4: And to be fair to Tannehill, you had two fairly
Speaker 4: long drives in the fourth quarter, both of them ended
Speaker 4: in field goals, but he got them down there with
Speaker 4: with some nice throws. He just kept throwing it into
Speaker 4: tight windows and it was tough to watch, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't come out of this like whatever, I want to
Speaker 3: examine this deeply, but like the Derek Carr experience, I
Speaker 3: I've just been insane. I think it's gonna be frustrating
Speaker 3: for Saints fans when they go through it from week
Speaker 3: to week. And like I don't know, I don't this
Speaker 3: was dealing with here, Like yeah, but.
Speaker 4: This was kind of it though, Like he he was
Speaker 4: disappointing the first half and there was a play he
Speaker 4: made in the fourth quarter where a titan almost took
Speaker 4: his life. He hit him so hard and Carr put
Speaker 4: it right on the money, okay, and then in money
Speaker 4: time he puts it to Shahid. So after such a
Speaker 4: brutal first half where where I kind of was having
Speaker 4: similar comments Mark and we were talking about it lot
Speaker 4: on Twitter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was frustrating me.
Speaker 4: He struggled, But the fact that he kind of bounced
Speaker 4: back from that and played well at the end, you
Speaker 4: got to give it up to him. Chris Alavi eight
Speaker 4: for one twelve two. By the way, offensive player of
Speaker 4: the Year candidacy is alive.
Speaker 2: Uh So your point about the brutality, car said, that
Speaker 2: was one of the more physical games I've played in
Speaker 2: my ten years. We showed that we could win the
Speaker 2: ultimate physical type of game. Well, we'll see about that.
Speaker 4: Right, His offensive line needs to have it not be
Speaker 4: so physical as left tackle Trevor Penny got worked by
Speaker 4: Ard and Key.
Speaker 2: Titan's just got to be better on offense. Henry didn't
Speaker 2: break the big one. And you know, obviously tenne Hill's
Speaker 2: got to play better. And how did Hopkins look?
Speaker 1: Did he make any plays where he looked like old
Speaker 1: new Cockins Hopkins or is he tough?
Speaker 4: Some tough contested catches but not a lot of separation
Speaker 4: there at thirteen targets, seven catches sixty five years. They
Speaker 4: just don't have a lot of other players on this team.
Speaker 4: Trailing Burk's two for eighteen.
Speaker 1: All right, let's head to Atlanta, a town you got out.
Speaker 3: Chier and Smith and an I you got too, Pitts
Speaker 3: and Smith.
Speaker 10: Here's the gift, Algier A little pawky, but Tyler will
Speaker 10: score the left side, goes Tyler out cheer and he
Speaker 10: bangs home his second touchdown.
Speaker 1: Of the day. Bang it home. I like that, Bang
Speaker 1: at home?
Speaker 3: They Smith.
Speaker 2: The Smith looks like he's going down the conference table
Speaker 2: after a FedEx quarterly meeting.
Speaker 1: He looks for three billion for the week. Now West
Speaker 1: Nham with the call w ZGC yip Tyler Algier suppose
Speaker 1: it afterthought after the arrival of Beejean Robinson but not
Speaker 1: so outtouched the rookie phenom scored twice was the goal
Speaker 1: line guy? What you know what?
Speaker 2: I am convinced that Arthur Smith is a terrorist. At
Speaker 2: least it's a fantasy realm.
Speaker 3: Like he's got two good running backs and they'll both
Speaker 3: get used.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I got like eighty three yards.
Speaker 2: Falcons over Panthers in a game that a take care
Speaker 2: of business game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see you burying this down at the very
Speaker 3: back end of the lineup. That's cool.
Speaker 1: Is this a was this a game that deserved higher placement?
Speaker 3: Enjoyed it? Reg enjoyed it? I know for certain reasons,
Speaker 3: I would say this, after all the buzz A very
Speaker 3: slow start for the Falcons. I can I think you're
Speaker 3: You're right, he's going to continue, Arthur Smith to annoy
Speaker 3: people because it's like, how long does it take to
Speaker 3: get Kyle Pitts into the game? Why are we not
Speaker 3: giving Jon Robinson the break catches? You did not? But
Speaker 3: I think part of this problem I've not seen a
Speaker 3: start to a game like this. Desmond Ritter at one point,
Speaker 3: pretty deep into the first half, was four for four,
Speaker 3: four completions for zero yards. His first pass, which was
Speaker 3: a bit ominous, was a negative six yard completion to himself.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Then he threw a pass to Bjon Robinson who was
Speaker 3: stopped for six negative six yards. Then he got twelve
Speaker 3: yards on the two. It just went on and onward.
Speaker 3: Was like they couldn't get uncorked. But I will say,
Speaker 3: Tyler Joe.
Speaker 2: As they count that mark in the box score, it
Speaker 2: is yeah, yeah, one catch.
Speaker 3: For for a while it was like he was one
Speaker 3: for one for negative six yards. It was like, I
Speaker 3: love this, this is cool. Although I don't love it
Speaker 3: for like what it means. Ritter was not a disaster,
Speaker 3: but there's a lot they need to uncork, like Pitts
Speaker 3: in London and have that be part of their game.
Speaker 3: I think the thing that I saw though, if you
Speaker 3: want to like project this out, you do have two
Speaker 3: running backs Tyler Aljeler Algier on a second big run
Speaker 3: in a row. Guy, Well, he's my guy, but you.
Speaker 5: Know Algae Algae here he is officially your guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he like I could see it in his eyes
Speaker 3: a little bit that he's sort of just been written
Speaker 3: off as like now you're Bijon like this, this guy
Speaker 3: who was the best rookie runner a year ago is
Speaker 3: just simply an afterthought like they used in him both
Speaker 3: Bijon Robinson. Though it's he's gonna have bigger box scores
Speaker 3: than this. It's the running, Like he had a couple
Speaker 3: of runs where you're just like, oh, absolutely he's the guy.
Speaker 3: He's he is going to be what they think. But
Speaker 3: it's also like the ability to throw it to him
Speaker 3: in the flats. There was a play where like if
Speaker 3: you aren't on him in one second, he just took
Speaker 3: that instant juked backwards juked around you and off he's gone.
Speaker 3: And it's like they I think it's gonna take a
Speaker 3: little bit of time. They almost have like I don't
Speaker 3: want to say too many weapons because it's not gonna
Speaker 3: look like that when you see this. I don't take
Speaker 3: the right quarterback for all that. But if they get
Speaker 3: if they can't get in their flow and you get
Speaker 3: to a point where, like all these guys are involved,
Speaker 3: there's a lot to handle. We can get to the
Speaker 3: Brice Young part of it too. But this Falcons defense,
Speaker 3: both defense has made it tough on the opposing quarterback.
Speaker 3: But I saw something different with this Falcons defense.
Speaker 4: Well, the Falcons only had two hundred and twenty one
Speaker 4: yards of offense at one point. I remember, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: the Panthers were out getting him like two twenty to eighty.
Speaker 4: But Bijon just a slow start that stops start on
Speaker 4: the touchdown. Just chef's kiss. I mean, that's all you
Speaker 4: need to see. That's special.
Speaker 1: Good That was.
Speaker 5: You know what else is good?
Speaker 4: By the way, Well, while we have a little break
Speaker 4: in the action, I locked up this Falcons team over
Speaker 4: here on Falcons corner.
Speaker 3: Damn, we gotta should have joined me to.
Speaker 1: Do something if you wanted out start to the season.
Speaker 5: For the could you create a more annoyance start to
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 4: Then then I hit, I hit my lock and everyone
Speaker 4: else goes, oh.
Speaker 3: And what no, we could like to answer your question,
Speaker 3: he could not create a more annoying So you definitely
Speaker 3: as annoying as possible right now, thank you.
Speaker 1: But credit to you got an early lead, early lead.
Speaker 5: Very early, very early.
Speaker 1: But that's that's taking uh, you know, taking out your
Speaker 1: lollipop just yet for a lick.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just when, it's when, it's when you
Speaker 4: when you won it last year, and then everyone goes
Speaker 4: just say it.
Speaker 5: It's oh, it's it's rare to have a.
Speaker 3: Week like we want to talk about Bryce Young or
Speaker 3: more about Greg I just had to get okay, what
Speaker 3: did you see from Bryce? I was up and down.
Speaker 3: He had Jesse Bates, who was looks like he's going
Speaker 3: to be an incredible offseason addition for the Falcons, picked
Speaker 3: him off twice. The first one, I just he just
Speaker 3: didn't see Jesse, he just didn't see the field. And
Speaker 3: the second one was as bad and like he nearly
Speaker 3: threw another bad pick into coverage. He attempted a couple
Speaker 3: of deep balls that I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: a wide receiver thing, but they were overthrows at To
Speaker 3: say all that, though, I still think that there's something
Speaker 3: about him, like there was zero panic. Like he made
Speaker 3: some throws too, and he let a touchdown drive at
Speaker 3: one point like that. He had a nice throw to
Speaker 3: Hayden Hurst. There was just a calm to him. Even
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. I almost was like
Speaker 3: a lack of urgency. But I really just think as
Speaker 3: a rookie, it was more like he was doing what
Speaker 3: Frank Reich wanted. You could see it, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I am totally willing to be patient with it.
Speaker 1: Hey, hated Hurst, come back to me.
Speaker 2: You have a very celebrated young man as your quarterback,
Speaker 2: a high profile rookie. You catch his first touchdown pass
Speaker 2: and you fire the ball into the second level.
Speaker 3: It was not the right thing to do.
Speaker 5: They got it back.
Speaker 1: They got it back there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean he created that eight people probably
Speaker 3: to go do all that to get the ball back,
Speaker 3: you know, and a fans annoyed anything else on this one.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we can Brian Burns was awesome.
Speaker 1: I just think I think they don't have to say,
Speaker 1: but I think the job about it.
Speaker 3: The Falcons, Like, I get it, they didn't go blow
Speaker 3: their doors off, but I just think it's weak. It
Speaker 3: was a very weak one scenario.
Speaker 5: This is a Falcons type of game.
Speaker 4: I mean, even if, even if this season goes exactly
Speaker 4: as we hope, there's gonna be a lot of games
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So you got your little gimme against
Speaker 2: the Panthers Packers next week.
Speaker 1: I like that, God one.
Speaker 2: That's a test with the potential team of around the
Speaker 2: NFL waiting in week three. Wow, so a lot a
Speaker 2: lot to be settled. Let's head to landover twelve.
Speaker 14: Minutes to go, third and goal at the seven. Three
Speaker 14: wide receivers to the right, to the right, one to
Speaker 14: the left. Antonio gives it, flares out to the right.
Speaker 14: Cardinals break four. Hell's got a good pocket, steps up
Speaker 14: and now he's get out.
Speaker 3: The rood board at the fire, comes back to your door.
Speaker 14: Push on touch down Washington seven yard stamper.
Speaker 3: A little bit of redemption for Sam.
Speaker 15: Has been a rough game for him.
Speaker 7: You'll love to see the young quarterback be able to
Speaker 7: put some points up on the board.
Speaker 2: Sam Howell let's Bram Weinstein and Julie Donaldson on Wbig
Speaker 2: Scrambles and the Washington Commander is avert a disaster in
Speaker 2: Week one, Let's call like it is where the tanking
Speaker 2: Cardinals ahead in the fourth quarter before that Hal Scramble,
Speaker 2: allowing them to get out of town with a twenty
Speaker 2: to sixteen win over the Cardinals. Greg, what did you
Speaker 2: see from how you are high on these commanders? Was
Speaker 2: your faith shaking it all by their performance in week
Speaker 2: one despite getting the dub.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 4: Howell was such a roller coaster that I was just
Speaker 4: thinking this will be fun, but a little worrisome that
Speaker 4: it was this much of a roller coaster even against
Speaker 4: the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I mean he had to find the roller coaster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like what makes it?
Speaker 4: He had a bad pick, He had a very Baker
Speaker 4: mayfield in fumble. It was a lot actually a lot
Speaker 4: of it was Baker mayfielding. I don't know, that's not
Speaker 4: a word, the good and the bad. Like he was
Speaker 4: just trying stuff, like after he made the bad fumble
Speaker 4: though though he had some darts that he almost shouldn't have,
Speaker 4: tried to get some points late in the first half,
Speaker 4: and then you see him with the rushing touchdown that
Speaker 4: ultimately gets him to win.
Speaker 5: So it was just like it was it was a lot.
Speaker 5: That was what I would say. It was my Sam
Speaker 5: Howell experience, but I think he'll be a fun watch
Speaker 5: that he didn't. He didn't dissuade me from that.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like you weren't spooked by it. It
Speaker 1: was more just like, oh, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: roller coaster.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, maybe the Cardinals defense will be better
Speaker 4: than expected. I did not expect them to be winning
Speaker 4: sixteen to ten, you know, in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 4: this game and really limiting. But credit to Washington's defense
Speaker 4: played quite well. They were putting bad spots throughout the game.
Speaker 4: There was a sequence when the Cardinals had the ball
Speaker 4: up sixteen ten where it was like negative one run,
Speaker 4: saw Dobbs then sacked for four and then Montes Sweat
Speaker 4: forced to fumble with a sack and that led to
Speaker 4: that short field Sam Howel touchdown. And the Commander's defense
Speaker 4: kind of took over in the second half of this game,
Speaker 4: even though they put up sixteen points, Like, the Commander's
Speaker 4: defense was pretty great.
Speaker 3: This was one of those games where, like I heard
Speaker 3: someone talk about the fact they were in a survivor
Speaker 3: pool with like three hundred and eighty people and like
Speaker 3: eighty or one hundred and twenty of them had picked Washington.
Speaker 3: It's like, you would just love to see that thing
Speaker 3: get torched down. I kind of found myself like rooting
Speaker 3: for Arizona. Just say f you to everyone. You've been
Speaker 3: telling us all off season that we stink up the joint,
Speaker 3: we're terrible, and they're on the doorstep of winning. I
Speaker 3: do think Josh Dobbs, like I'm looking at the box score.
Speaker 3: It's not like he's amazing or anything, but like he's competent.
Speaker 5: He was competent. I was thinking it would be a
Speaker 5: tough competent if.
Speaker 3: You're trying to get the number one. I mean, no,
Speaker 3: I make him disappear.
Speaker 4: He's been so much. He's the perfect level of competent. Okay,
Speaker 4: because I mean, let's be real. He averaged four yards
Speaker 4: per attempt here. I mean, it wasn't that's he just like,
Speaker 4: but he was under he was under duress. It was
Speaker 4: a lot of short stuff. Hollywood Brown was open a
Speaker 4: couple of times, but yeah, shout out to Dennis gar
Speaker 4: Though a couple a couple of big time sacks. I mean,
Speaker 4: like the sacks howl would take. We're like eighteen yard sacks.
Speaker 4: That's what I sort of mean. It was just like
Speaker 4: it was wild, but they got through it and they won.
Speaker 2: Shout out to five sacks. Shout out to Commandos fans
Speaker 2: by the way, who filled that building. It was loloud,
Speaker 2: It was loud. It was the first game with Josh Harris.
Speaker 1: Is that the owner?
Speaker 5: Now that's right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: And there were chants goodbyes to former owner Dan Snyder.
Speaker 2: You had a bunch of legends show up that haven't
Speaker 2: been around lately. John Riggins, Champ Bailey RG three. Speaking
Speaker 2: of RG three, there's a lot better energy, Griffin said,
Speaker 2: per the ap, the team doesn't have the distractions.
Speaker 1: The community is back together.
Speaker 4: There was something sneaky big about this win because that
Speaker 4: with all that having been said, and there was a
Speaker 4: great vibe in the energy and everyone's going crazy, like
Speaker 4: when they were down sixteen ten in the fourth grass like,
Speaker 4: and this is a dark way for this to feel
Speaker 4: like all of this is just more of the safe.
Speaker 4: So even if they have a sligh disappointment that this
Speaker 4: is the first game.
Speaker 2: Isn't it You could just picture, you know, Snyder in
Speaker 2: some balcony with a giant like cigar cackling if they
Speaker 2: would have found a way to lose this game. But
Speaker 2: they did not, and as a result, it's a new
Speaker 2: beginning for the Commandos, all right, which.
Speaker 1: Takes us to Sunday Night football.
Speaker 7: The newly minted, re signed and enriched Graham Gano.
Speaker 3: He is nine year veteran, just sign a new contract.
Speaker 7: We'll try a forty five yard field goal from the
Speaker 7: left hash hand. That dollar is mishandled, blocked and picked
Speaker 7: up by the Cowboys defender on the right side line.
Speaker 3: It is Noah Igan banomaghee, and he runs it in
Speaker 3: for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Our friend Brad Sham the sham god, with the call,
Speaker 2: and you'll he'll tell you who scored.
Speaker 5: Noah egg mcnagany, Very nice, Gregg.
Speaker 1: One of the most.
Speaker 2: Grizzly Sunday night affairs in the history of the game,
Speaker 2: at least on NBC. The Dallas Cowboys return a blocked
Speaker 2: field goal attempt seventy five plus yards and then just
Speaker 2: roll from there to a forty to zero win over
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, which is I'll tell you what,
Speaker 2: boys there are bad losses, and then there are are
Speaker 2: we just talking about week one, it's just week one.
Speaker 2: And then there are losses like happened to the Giants
Speaker 2: tonight and your fan base filling up that building and
Speaker 2: then getting poured on. It's one thing to get your
Speaker 2: ass kicked as a fan out a game, but then
Speaker 2: to get poured on, There's just something about that that's
Speaker 2: just a kick in the nards from God himself. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Mark Cowboys roll in stunning fashion.
Speaker 3: And it was like every phase of the game put
Speaker 3: it to the Giants. The Cowboys had twenty six points,
Speaker 3: twenty six to nothing, and it only put up two
Speaker 3: field goals. So it's like it was a complete and
Speaker 3: total collapse to the point like I know everyone's gonna say,
Speaker 3: this is going to confirm everyone's you know, issues and
Speaker 3: suspicions about New York. But I almost think this was
Speaker 3: one of these games you had well. But I think
Speaker 3: this is one of these games that got so out
Speaker 3: of hand so early. Yeah, and the weather, well we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm saying, Like, let's all overreact
Speaker 3: to it. Like I think the Cowboys are came out
Speaker 3: ready to go. Coached well in every possible way. I'm
Speaker 3: beguiled by what I've seen from New York tonight because
Speaker 3: Brian Daball was one of the better coaches around last year.
Speaker 3: I don't the thing I don't get in this game
Speaker 3: when if you're watching it visually, that it was an
Speaker 3: absolute downpour, it stops raining at some point. But the
Speaker 3: game is so far to hand and we're watching Daniel
Speaker 3: Jones take a seventh sack like late in this thing
Speaker 3: soaking wet. Why why are any of these guys still in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old I can almost guarantee it, and maybe
Speaker 2: they'll ask them about it after the game.
Speaker 5: The old.
Speaker 2: We just wanted to get something pop out of the
Speaker 2: end of the game that we could like roll into
Speaker 2: next week. But I thought that was foolish and he
Speaker 2: got creamed a couple of times, and uh yeah, but
Speaker 2: but but for the Cowboys, Greg, this is a game
Speaker 2: that and we talked about like I picked the Cowboys
Speaker 2: to win the division because when we're there in the
Speaker 2: summer and we look at their roster, it's like it's
Speaker 2: all there, like this is We've been waiting for this
Speaker 2: team to get over the hump for years and years
Speaker 2: and years. Uh then then you see a performance like
Speaker 2: this and you're like, okay, you could see it.
Speaker 1: You could see the path to greatness for this team,
Speaker 1: right Tomorrow's partnerdog.
Speaker 5: They're not. They're not anybody's underdog.
Speaker 4: Like, yes, it's somewhat fluky that you get Igbonogay running
Speaker 4: up the silence just traded for him, by the way,
Speaker 4: for Kelvin Joseph. I mean that it worked out nice
Speaker 4: and then you get a They called it a pick
Speaker 4: six on Daniel Jones, but it was ultimately a drop
Speaker 4: by Barkley. I thought, I thought it should have been
Speaker 4: a catch and a fumble that's returned for for six.
Speaker 4: But that doesn't explain the twelve quarterback hit, the eight passes, defense,
Speaker 4: the seven sacks, everything they did defensively to Daniel Jones,
Speaker 4: who threw the ball twenty eight times and had one
Speaker 4: hundred and four yards. I mean, there was a point
Speaker 4: in this game. Let's take you back to a more
Speaker 4: innocent time, and you're right, like, sure, it's only week
Speaker 4: one and things could change.
Speaker 3: I'm not writing it off no event.
Speaker 5: All I mean is these.
Speaker 4: Fans can't get tonight back and the next week back
Speaker 4: Like that was just the most miserable experience possible that
Speaker 4: like that happened, and that was terrible. But there was
Speaker 4: a point in this game they had had a perfect
Speaker 4: first drive. They had they were running the ball well.
Speaker 4: Saquan had a bunch of good runs double buck, It's
Speaker 4: third and two. And then it all started with a
Speaker 4: Andrew Thomas false start and then the new rookie center
Speaker 4: throws a groundball for ends up getting sacked for Daniel Jones,
Speaker 4: and then it just goes freaking hey wire. These were
Speaker 4: more innocent times back then. In the first quarter, like
Speaker 4: Chris Collins is really talking off, like talking up, like
Speaker 4: this Giant's running game and what it's going to be
Speaker 4: tough for the Cowboys all night.
Speaker 2: An NFL's dying on Park Avenue. You know they circled.
Speaker 2: This is a big opener to the season.
Speaker 3: Will they make a profit this season? Tbd.
Speaker 2: They absolutely absolutely lost the entire country by halftime because
Speaker 2: it was just an It was a non event, it
Speaker 2: was a non competition. This from Andrew Siciliano, the Great
Speaker 2: Siciliano via OPTA stats. Cowboys have now beaten the Giants
Speaker 2: eleven out of the last twelve by a combined plus
Speaker 2: three eighty nine This is no rivalry. This is one
Speaker 2: sided and it's butt Wibben, not tonight, not tonight. And
Speaker 2: so the cow the Cowboys are gonna feel great and
Speaker 2: the Giants like I Again, there are losses and then
Speaker 2: there's games like this where Dable's gonna be really tested
Speaker 2: because you want to flush this one. It's a classic
Speaker 2: bury of the ballgame. But to do it at home
Speaker 2: against the rival to no show at this level, I mean,
Speaker 2: you couldn't ask for. We talked about, like what better
Speaker 2: way for the Packers to start a new era, What
Speaker 2: worse way for the Giant try to build off last
Speaker 2: season's optimism with one of the all time eggs for
Speaker 2: the franchise in primetime history.
Speaker 3: Well, and we grew up in Giants' territory, and you know,
Speaker 3: like we both have in Greg's maybe less so up
Speaker 3: in mass Chuss, but like there're so many friends that
Speaker 3: I am just on textreads with who are Giants fans,
Speaker 3: And it's easy for us to say, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: be chill about week one. Look at it from a distance.
Speaker 3: It's a long season, Like this is your rival. You
Speaker 3: just got wiped forty to nothing on television with the
Speaker 3: entire with the skies erupting on top of you. This
Speaker 3: is about as ugly as it gets after you spent
Speaker 3: all off season trying to tell people know that what
Speaker 3: we did last year is the Giants was more legitimate
Speaker 3: than you believe. That's what I believed.
Speaker 4: Well the last time they were on the field too,
Speaker 4: they weren't competitive against the division rival in a much
Speaker 4: bigger spot.
Speaker 1: The division shows you where they might be at.
Speaker 4: And I think they'll be better. And they're very lucky
Speaker 4: to have the Cardinals in Week two. That's a perfect opportunity.
Speaker 3: And it gets it goes, it goes forty nine Ers, Seahawks, Dolphins.
Speaker 5: I just mean, you really are needing to win next week,
Speaker 5: and that's a good Jase.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be better.
Speaker 5: They'll be better.
Speaker 1: It will be better next.
Speaker 5: They will be better. So that's good.
Speaker 4: But the things that came into the season having concerns about,
Speaker 4: namely their pass protection, their explosive UH plays on offense,
Speaker 4: and then they're they're cornerbacks and we didn't see a
Speaker 4: lot of that because Dak only had to throw the
Speaker 4: ball twenty four times for one hundred and forty three yards.
Speaker 5: But your your boys, Addy, who's got to be feeling
Speaker 5: good right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a couple of nice plays where they
Speaker 4: got ceedee lamb pretty wide open early.
Speaker 5: They just didn't need to do much.
Speaker 4: A couple of nice red zone plays too, so they
Speaker 4: did everything they needed to do off.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a head coach prepares an entire team,
Speaker 2: and they dominated in every phase. And that Giants bar
Speaker 2: is subterranean right now, so they will clear the bar
Speaker 2: next week and the week's follow.
Speaker 3: Well, there might be some bars filled with Giants supporters tonight.
Speaker 1: Soaked, soaking, wet. I mean, it's one thing you lose.
Speaker 2: You go to the stadium, you pay eighty five dollars
Speaker 2: to park, you buy twenty dollars beers, your tailgate for hours,
Speaker 2: You you build a whole day round. You might even
Speaker 2: get a fight with your spouse because it's like, I
Speaker 2: thought you were just going to the game, but now
Speaker 2: you're leaving at two pm? What about the kids? What
Speaker 2: about the And then you come home at night and
Speaker 2: you drenched and you're angry. Guess what you just punted
Speaker 2: Sunday to your wife or spouse and now she's like,
Speaker 2: you're doing everything on Monday, and now Jet Life Stadium
Speaker 2: opens up the next night, the other Jets, the other.
Speaker 4: New York Taay, okay, save it Monday night football recap.
Speaker 8: There you go.
Speaker 1: Could get worse. Just put it that way.
Speaker 3: Well, what's the weather report?
Speaker 1: You you did?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you did not, You didn't have it. I have
Speaker 5: a good time on top of all that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you when you justser is like I
Speaker 2: thought it was an eight o'clock kickoff. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I gotta go pick up Tom. We gotta stop
Speaker 2: over at shop, right, we gotta gotta do this and
Speaker 2: that they.
Speaker 4: Go, Oh, I was gotta say, this is the worst,
Speaker 4: the worst primetime performance scenario there was since there was
Speaker 4: a Josh Freeman game that was crazy. There was one
Speaker 4: against Cam Newton in primetime that was particularly dark. But
Speaker 4: this might be even This might be even worse. This
Speaker 4: might be even worse.
Speaker 3: To start the season, I think Dane and I watched
Speaker 3: that Giant's Cam Newton game.
Speaker 1: We did at that old bar and uh that rat
Speaker 1: hole westside that hole, We's side rattle tomorrow's weather for
Speaker 1: who cares.
Speaker 2: Let's get out of here. But before we do, a
Speaker 2: reminder that Tomorrow, Monday is a new era for Around
Speaker 2: the NFL. We have our Monday Reaction Show. It's a
Speaker 2: shortened version of the podcast that just is almost like.
Speaker 5: A news rundown.
Speaker 2: The Rundown, it's a news rundown of everything that in
Speaker 2: the old days in the past for this podcast, we'd
Speaker 2: be sitting on for a day or two too long,
Speaker 2: and now we are going to give you an instant
Speaker 2: reaction in the latest from the fallout from Sunday's action,
Speaker 2: whether it's injury updates or press conferences, things that kind
Speaker 2: of slip through the cracks today. Now we're going to
Speaker 2: be covered a Monday with a short show also Monday
Speaker 2: Night Recap Monday Night Football Jets versus Bills. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm legitimately nervous. That is going to be something we
Speaker 2: hit tomorrow night. So you get a two separate podcasts.
Speaker 2: Drop it into your feed, keep up. It's okay. We
Speaker 2: don't have anything on Tuesday, so you have time to
Speaker 2: get through it all. And yes, we had our first
Speaker 2: NFL Plus offering on Thursday.
Speaker 1: I thought it went well. The fans seem to enjoy it.
Speaker 5: It was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the people international viewers are wondering when it
Speaker 1: would arrive it did land as we work out the
Speaker 1: kinks and you were able to check it out hopefully
Speaker 1: by now. So check out that one, and we got
Speaker 1: another one. Every Monday, we have our.
Speaker 2: NFL Plus exclusive Game of the Week, and the game
Speaker 2: of the week this week.
Speaker 3: Is Mark Dolphins Chargers Bangs.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna watch that game together, and we have.
Speaker 3: With a condensed runtime of seventy four minutes. I'm predicting now.
Speaker 5: Much shorter like thirty to forty.
Speaker 2: Drew Christiansen are a super producer, will work with us
Speaker 2: on that, putting together a fun package reliving that game,
Speaker 2: and we'll react to it as we watch together.
Speaker 5: I feel like we're missing a chance here, though.
Speaker 4: I know that was what we had decided on, but
Speaker 4: that was before Cowboys forty Giants not I personally would
Speaker 4: love to relive this.
Speaker 2: I'mould imagine that there's parts of your inner psyche that
Speaker 2: enjoy what happened.
Speaker 5: How I my outer psyche is into it too. It's
Speaker 5: all good.
Speaker 1: Can't make up what happened though, on those two days,
Speaker 1: those two Sundays in February. Nothing's gonna ever change that.
Speaker 4: Second, the second one, can't keep it. Don't believe it
Speaker 4: but the second one that was when it was even worse, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's it.
Speaker 2: So two new podcast on Monday and the NFL Plus
Speaker 2: for people that are subscribed, the NFL Plus Monday Night Recap,
Speaker 2: and you can get that on his own as well
Speaker 2: international people.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 2: Thank you to a big funk, Randy and Eric Roberts
Speaker 2: and they're made in voyage together on this particular program.
Speaker 1: Not an easy one.
Speaker 3: Gotta get Erica sexier nickname e the Call