Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about
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Speaker 1: Season two, episodes seventeen Something I Can Never Have. This
Speaker 1: originally aired April nineteen, two thousand five. Guys, this was
Speaker 1: a doozy from the last episode. Keith is reeling and
Speaker 1: missing for the beginning from being left of the Altar
Speaker 1: by Jules, as he finds out it was all a
Speaker 1: set up by Dan. Anna confronts Felix about her sexuality
Speaker 1: and finds out who really tagged Peyton's locker, tries to
Speaker 1: find a living solution so she doesn't have to leave
Speaker 1: Trill Baby, and Nathan reflects on his relationship with Haley
Speaker 1: through the sweetest flashbacks we have ever seen. He tries
Speaker 1: to win her back while she is on tour, and
Speaker 1: last but not least, our very favorite k hand in
Speaker 1: his fight for custody of Jenny. I'm exhausted. I'm emotionally
Speaker 1: exhausted from this. I'm so glad that someone else said that,
Speaker 1: because I was like, why am I so tired? Like
Speaker 1: this episode put us through it? It really did. It
Speaker 1: was that was that was an emotional coaster. Um. It
Speaker 1: starts with Nikki. Say the whole Nikki and Jake thing.
Speaker 1: I mean that is that's so rough. Custody in and
Speaker 1: of itself. Anyone who knows anyone who's been through custody stuff,
Speaker 1: or if you've been through it yourself, you know, the
Speaker 1: family courts are a mess, and especially just trying to
Speaker 1: deal with it's always um. Court date after court date.
Speaker 1: It's never easy. There's never just a cut and clean, dryway.
Speaker 1: There's always some way the system is trying to suck
Speaker 1: money out of you. So the idea that teenagers are
Speaker 1: having to navigating stuff too, it's just so gut wrenching.
Speaker 1: I really feel for Jake and to see Nikki weaponize
Speaker 1: his love for his daughter against him to go to
Speaker 1: a court date that she knew was a date he
Speaker 1: was unaware of, and pleading her case as the victim.
Speaker 1: It's infuriating. But as a teenager like how do you,
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you know how to hire a lawyer?
Speaker 1: How do you know, like how to make a court
Speaker 1: date or a court appearance? What room to go to?
Speaker 1: Like you know, I do a whole TV show about
Speaker 1: the judicial system where it's like grown ups our age whore, like,
Speaker 1: I have no idea, this is impossible, so intimidating um
Speaker 1: for that point though, like Jake says I'm staying, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere, like I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: scared off. I forgot that. He doubled down and was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay. And to your point, though, he
Speaker 1: gets an offer for some help and support from an adult,
Speaker 1: from a capable adult who says, we can do this
Speaker 1: differently for you, and that's really his first sign of hope.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that lets him know that he
Speaker 1: can fight. But that didn't happen until after he chose
Speaker 1: to stay, which I love too. Sometimes you have particularly
Speaker 1: of faith to do the thing. Where are Jake Jigilski's parents, Seriously, guys,
Speaker 1: Like it's like we're children of the corn. They're just parents.
Speaker 1: Anywhere no one has parents. No, No, it's not even
Speaker 1: like his parents are saying, well, Jake, we tried, honey,
Speaker 1: you know, give her to her mama. We can't afford her. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's just so confusing to me why they didn't take
Speaker 1: those opportunities to flesh us out, and instead they're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's this businessman that Karen's sleeping with. We're gonna I
Speaker 1: love that Brooks parents are arranging for them the move
Speaker 1: and you see the movers, but never her parents. Never. No,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. There's no parents in tree Hill except for
Speaker 1: Dan and Deb and Karen. Well, Deb's not even here now,
Speaker 1: Deb listen. Deb saw the ship show at the wedding
Speaker 1: and was like, peace, I'm out you guys, it's too much.
Speaker 1: I can't. You know, for the people at home that
Speaker 1: don't know how TV is made, you know, some your
Speaker 1: deal is sometimes like you're in all the episodes, or
Speaker 1: you're only in six out of twelve episodes, or maybe
Speaker 1: three out of twelve episodes, and with a cast as
Speaker 1: big as ours, you have to budget strategically so you
Speaker 1: can keep all your players. Um. So sometimes people are
Speaker 1: missing or sometimes like whole families are missing. That should
Speaker 1: be in fault. So maybe they just should have given
Speaker 1: our show more money if they wanted happy families. That's
Speaker 1: true because no Felix parents, Felix and Anna Greenberg, Jake Jakalski,
Speaker 1: no Brook, no Peyton, no parents for anyone than anybody
Speaker 1: else who else has parents, has no parents. Keith just
Speaker 1: had a whole ass wedding and his parents weren't there. Damn, damn,
Speaker 1: that's true. We didn't even have ourselves about about royal
Speaker 1: and what was grandma's name? I can't remember. Tess Harper, God, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean she's so cute. Her commentary on the whole
Speaker 1: like chick running out, Danny, did you hire a prostitute? Missing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're missing her. We need a director's cut with Tess
Speaker 1: Harper right. Well, Hey, speaking of the director, we had
Speaker 1: Paul Johanson direct this, so this was his first episode directing.
Speaker 1: I believe the performances, and that's why the performances are
Speaker 1: so good, because he makes a difference how to get
Speaker 1: a great performance out of an actor. He understands the
Speaker 1: concept of the scene and the space and the arc
Speaker 1: of the entire story, and he's great. He's so great
Speaker 1: with actors, man, and he especially for us. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about it in season one, how you could
Speaker 1: see where we were being pushed to perform in certain
Speaker 1: ways where we were all a little like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's sexy what's funny, Like we didn't know. I'm
Speaker 1: still asking that question, honestly, say and Paul, you know,
Speaker 1: always encouraged everyone to tone it down and take it inward.
Speaker 1: And you see these really relaxed, really interesting, dynamic performances
Speaker 1: from everyone. I especially thought it was fun watching what
Speaker 1: Chad was doing with the Lucas and Dan dynamic and
Speaker 1: watch what James was doing with Nathan's memories of him
Speaker 1: and Haley. Paul directed those boys beautifully. Yeah, he's been
Speaker 1: those boys. He's had to walk on those shoes and
Speaker 1: be like be a heartthrob but also be emotional, but
Speaker 1: also be approachable, but also be mysterious, you know, like
Speaker 1: unattainable but everyone's best friend. Yeah, it's tough being a chick.
Speaker 1: But it's also really hard to be a young man
Speaker 1: in your early twenties having to play these parts because
Speaker 1: you know you're having to do emotional work, but also
Speaker 1: you get told maintain your masculinity and you want to
Speaker 1: be cool. You still want to be cool. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, be the guy that people are putting their
Speaker 1: poster on their walls. Just what was that? J fourteen?
Speaker 1: You know Jonathan Taylor Thomas shout out to the O G.
Speaker 1: Did you have him on your wall? I probably did?
Speaker 1: I you did, probably when I was young. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I mean I think when I was like what leven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I remember I got like a book it
Speaker 1: poster thing like I saved my quarters. Remember book It.
Speaker 1: It was like the book subscription thing you do at school.
Speaker 1: And I got a Richard Greeko poster. I was never
Speaker 1: in Yeah, but like guys, I got that like the
Speaker 1: third grade. I was never into boys our age. I
Speaker 1: was always he was your first celebrity? Who was your
Speaker 1: first crush? Who was your first cet? I had no
Speaker 1: idea who he was. I saw his picture in the
Speaker 1: book It pamphlet and was like that guy looks like
Speaker 1: he rides motorcycles and like causes trouble. Okay, manifested your husband, Hillary,
Speaker 1: that's what you did? You know who my first crush was?
Speaker 1: Magnum p I oh that's right, No, yeah, God, I
Speaker 1: love it still when I think about him and I
Speaker 1: read a I'm sure I swoon get it when I
Speaker 1: went to see I went to see this movie. It
Speaker 1: was a drive in. It was the only driving movie
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I think I was I don't know nine,
Speaker 1: and it was a double feature. It was The sand
Speaker 1: Lot and Ghost Dad. Oh the sand Lot Man. When
Speaker 1: Mike v Tar came on the screen with those big
Speaker 1: brown eyes and that like Mediterranean olive skin, I was done,
Speaker 1: Is he like a firefighter? Now? He's like a firefighter.
Speaker 1: I immediately got on Google when I watched this time
Speaker 1: out with Maria the other day, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that kid is still cute. Yeah, in a non creepy way,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, I could feel myself back being
Speaker 1: my tenure, your childhood, childhoodself googled his adults forget it.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. If you're a handsome young man,
Speaker 1: but you also have to feel feelings, Paul Johansson is
Speaker 1: the director for your how to bring it out? Great
Speaker 1: performance from Anna in particular, I really want to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to her, to Danielle who just nailed
Speaker 1: those scenes so beautifully. So um, it wasn't too much.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing that Paul's great at is
Speaker 1: reeling actors in and he's like, stopped doing stuff, stop acting,
Speaker 1: Stop like doing the thing with your face that you
Speaker 1: think you need to do with the corresponding emotion to
Speaker 1: the facial expression, stop it. Just stand there and feel
Speaker 1: what you're feeling. And when you drop into it, if
Speaker 1: you if you lie yourself to be that honest, which
Speaker 1: Danielle clearly did, something really beautiful happens. And I well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that whole like arc a little bit,
Speaker 1: because this is the fruition of lots of Anna conversations, confrontations,
Speaker 1: um and it. I don't know, it's kind of surprising
Speaker 1: to me that we did all this so many years
Speaker 1: ago and it's still such a big conversation. What I
Speaker 1: appreciated about Anna's arc is that she didn't just come
Speaker 1: out right away and say I'm gay. It became this
Speaker 1: like trickle. It was just a little slow trickle where
Speaker 1: you could feel this teenage girl trying on new things
Speaker 1: and if she could get over the one hurdle of
Speaker 1: of oh I made a joke about this, and no
Speaker 1: one freaked out, and then oh I admitted maybe I
Speaker 1: was by and no one freaked out, and then oh,
Speaker 1: now I've kissed a girl and I'm still alive, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So by the time she gets
Speaker 1: up to this point where she's like, I'm gay, it's me.
Speaker 1: You're not talking about Peyton, You're talking about me. Um,
Speaker 1: what was the quote she said, here afraid to be myself.
Speaker 1: That's it. She's me. He said, it's just a word.
Speaker 1: She said, it's not just a word, it's who I am.
Speaker 1: And she owns it, and then she says, I'm gay.
Speaker 1: I think it's so important to show characters figuring it out,
Speaker 1: you know, because it it provides everyone else with a
Speaker 1: way to articulate how they're feeling. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I loved about what she said as well. She had
Speaker 1: the profound expression of identity. And when I think about
Speaker 1: when this aired and how proud I am that we
Speaker 1: did this, we also got very clear about how things
Speaker 1: work in the world. And she said, it's not just
Speaker 1: a word, it's a hate crime. Yeah, because it is.
Speaker 1: It's a hate crime. And the clarity to say that
Speaker 1: in an era, because remember in two thousand five, a
Speaker 1: lot of people were still saying, oh, that's so good,
Speaker 1: like it was a sincul and making people feel so
Speaker 1: terrified to be who they were to say no, that's
Speaker 1: me you're talking about. And we I'm very proud looking
Speaker 1: back that we threw the gauntlet down to say no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't do that. We don't make light. When it's
Speaker 1: people's identities and their feeling of being accepted in their
Speaker 1: worlds at stake, We're not going to minimize that at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brooke Davis, you can went for it with
Speaker 1: the whole banging on Felix's door like one, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't be with a person who says this anywhere
Speaker 1: now in no realm, in no realm is that acceptable.
Speaker 1: But on my best friends locker like that turns it up,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Infinity, if you did it to anybody,
Speaker 1: and you did it to my best friend, you know,
Speaker 1: it's really easy. Um, it's even a problem now on
Speaker 1: the Internet. I have a middle school boy and there
Speaker 1: are certain like recruiting tools on the internet where they
Speaker 1: like show you funny videos, and every once in a
Speaker 1: while they'll slip in something in a per appriate and
Speaker 1: so all the mom groups I'm in there like, watch
Speaker 1: what your teen boys are watching, because it's to desensitize
Speaker 1: them two people's feelings and to make it cool if
Speaker 1: someone cries, you know, um, and that's certainly not how
Speaker 1: I'm raising my son. But you can see how in
Speaker 1: two thousand five when this aired, there was a sense
Speaker 1: of toxic masculinity where boys could say whatever they wanted
Speaker 1: to say and it didn't matter who would hurt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that she went after him. I love that
Speaker 1: Brook went after him and just laid that laid that
Speaker 1: line down, And it was nice for me because that's
Speaker 1: such a hard line I've always taken since I was
Speaker 1: so young. I remember getting suspended when I was little.
Speaker 1: I liked this story already. Yeah. You know, my my dad,
Speaker 1: for his whole working career, was an artist, and I
Speaker 1: grew up in a very a queer, very diverse and
Speaker 1: gender diverse community in Los Angeles with artists and you know,
Speaker 1: people who fled here in the same way that so
Speaker 1: many people fled to New York to have safe queer community.
Speaker 1: And when the AIDS epidemic hit, I'm not exaggerating when
Speaker 1: I tell you fifty of my parents closest friends died.
Speaker 1: And the stigma around AIDS when we were little was
Speaker 1: so strong it was a punch line. It was like
Speaker 1: late night shows punch line. Yeah, and I I remember
Speaker 1: listening to some kids at school talking about what it
Speaker 1: meant if you died of AIDS, and I was like,
Speaker 1: fistfighting with a boy and I got suspended, And is
Speaker 1: that why they sent you to the all girls school? Honestly?
Speaker 1: Probably I didn't boys, God gotta get her out of here.
Speaker 1: And and was like all the arguments I'd ever gotten
Speaker 1: in defending people who I love, who have been stigmatized
Speaker 1: for they love. I got to put all that stuff
Speaker 1: on Felix as Brooke and it felt great, like knowing
Speaker 1: that these were the examples we were setting your storyline
Speaker 1: Hill with Danielle. Danielle's whole storyline is Anna, like you know,
Speaker 1: me being able to be playing a character who was
Speaker 1: defending her friends, like it all just felt important. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was because part of something important. So much
Speaker 1: of TV can be like vapid, like you know, what
Speaker 1: are we wearing? How does our hair look? Stuff like that?
Speaker 1: Um and I love that stuff. I love when we
Speaker 1: see each other's outfits and we're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's so cute. But it is nice to look back
Speaker 1: and see a storyline that we're like, oh, that's what
Speaker 1: I wanted to model when I started doing this, like
Speaker 1: I wanted to have safe conversations for people, and Daniella
Speaker 1: Joy you said it best. You're like Paul gets people
Speaker 1: to connect in a way that's great. And that single
Speaker 1: tear that she has at the end of her scene
Speaker 1: is just like Chef's kiss. It's so good. Keith, you
Speaker 1: want to do go to the darkness? Do we want
Speaker 1: to go down like that dark road? Sure? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I was. I was gonna say before that Brooke
Speaker 1: had speaking of Brooke, she let's do so much. This
Speaker 1: is I don't know why this storyline made me, like
Speaker 1: I'm like over here what weeping made me cry? This
Speaker 1: like the fact that Karen, the fact that Lucas decorated
Speaker 1: his room like your bedroom made space for you, and
Speaker 1: that Karen allowed you to stay, and then the talk
Speaker 1: you and Karen have on the bed, all of it
Speaker 1: just made me. It made me cry every time. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is in me, but I that
Speaker 1: one really hit me hard. I loved it too. I
Speaker 1: love also because you see this sort of you know,
Speaker 1: mustache twirling thing of like Dan and Lucas and m
Speaker 1: and Lucas tells Karen he's going to stay and we're
Speaker 1: all like, how is she going to let him stay? Oh?
Speaker 1: Because his room is going to be open for Brooke. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Like now we get it. It was it's opening up
Speaker 1: this storyline, and I think it goes back to some
Speaker 1: of what we talked about with Lucas character in the
Speaker 1: first season, where he realizes he's lost his way and
Speaker 1: he wants to be a guy he recognizes. And this
Speaker 1: is such a beautiful expression of friendship, kind of helping
Speaker 1: someone remain a person they recognized. Like, that's what I
Speaker 1: feel like he's doing for Brooke. And he does have
Speaker 1: feelings for her, but he hasn't told her. He's just
Speaker 1: trying to help her out because he loves her. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. I think that's what got me. So
Speaker 1: is that watching We've watched Brooke now for two else's
Speaker 1: two and a half a season and a half. One
Speaker 1: season are on three. Two were season two, Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's almost two and three quarters. It's just this incredible arc.
Speaker 1: I mean truly, You're just been so outstanding in these
Speaker 1: two seasons and to really see who she's become. But
Speaker 1: Brooke is a fighter, she is um, she pushes through
Speaker 1: she's somebody that she won't. She might complain for a second,
Speaker 1: but she's not going to let it keep her down.
Speaker 1: She's not a victim. She's just like just muscling through,
Speaker 1: just getting through it, getting through it. I got it.
Speaker 1: I can take care of myself. I can do all this.
Speaker 1: And the fact that Lucas and caring, I mean, just
Speaker 1: to see someone step in and go, you don't have
Speaker 1: to carry this all on your own, let us hold
Speaker 1: you for a moment felt like such a relief for
Speaker 1: me in my empathy with Brooke over this whole season
Speaker 1: and watching her just muscle through everything on her own.
Speaker 1: Man that there was a giant gesture of care from
Speaker 1: another human. Men loved it. He carried the door, the door,
Speaker 1: the door, and then Paul, did you guys notice the
Speaker 1: beautiful thing Paul did? So Lucas opens the door for Brooke,
Speaker 1: which is now read, and the first thing you see
Speaker 1: is her dollhouse with the red door. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: this like world inside a world, and he did what
Speaker 1: he could to recreate her world. And it's just such
Speaker 1: a kind gesture, and it reminds you of who he
Speaker 1: is at his best. It reminds you of the household
Speaker 1: he grew up in with Karen, and I love Moira,
Speaker 1: you know, Karen sitting broke down to say, look, it's
Speaker 1: going to be very different it. She loves it. She
Speaker 1: loves so good, like having a real mom. Sweet Moira
Speaker 1: was so good at kind of getting that reaction out
Speaker 1: of all of the young players, you know, because she
Speaker 1: she interacted with all of us in different ways, and
Speaker 1: watching her with the boys is fun with her and
Speaker 1: like Jake her and Nathan her and Chad. You know,
Speaker 1: you two had a really special thing though, because you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be the party girl that's hooking up with
Speaker 1: her kid and man like to see how excited like
Speaker 1: your eyes would light up, just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you paid attention to me as as Brooke, Just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a real mom. How cool? Um?
Speaker 1: I also love from a production standpoint, they were like,
Speaker 1: we're not going to pay rent on those two big
Speaker 1: mansion houses anymore, so how can we just put Brooke
Speaker 1: in a set we already control at this house and
Speaker 1: we're going to be fun, bunget red and it'll all
Speaker 1: be the same. No parents, no mansions. These are the
Speaker 1: things that make our show special though, These little moments.
Speaker 1: It's it's the simple things in life, just the simple
Speaker 1: kindnesses from one person to another. It gets me every time. Well, look,
Speaker 1: Nathan can Haley on the road trip to see your
Speaker 1: parents is so cute? And then tied it into this
Speaker 1: road trip to see her which ends up not being
Speaker 1: is cute. That was beautiful. And the little things again,
Speaker 1: like the big red door and the small red door,
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Highway sign and then the matching Atlanta postcards.
Speaker 1: There were all these um sort of optical illusions and
Speaker 1: references to memory and identity. I think Paul just did
Speaker 1: such a beautiful job with that stuff that was probably
Speaker 1: not even on the page, but he created it, and
Speaker 1: I loved the story that it helped to tell. Those flashbacks, Joy,
Speaker 1: I remember shooting almost all of those. You know, I've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about how I have bad memory and
Speaker 1: I don't remember a lot of this stuff, but I
Speaker 1: remember I remember all those this whole episode, I remember
Speaker 1: shooting because you were having fun, we can tell. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you guys are so cute together in these scenes. Do
Speaker 1: you think part of the reason, too, is that you
Speaker 1: were out on tour and you had to fly back
Speaker 1: just to do these flashbacks and then go right back
Speaker 1: out on toured like did that? Did that maybe burn
Speaker 1: it into your brain a little more? Yeah, it's possible.
Speaker 1: It's possible. I really don't know why. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: But what do you remember? I remember I definitely remember
Speaker 1: shooting the answering machine scene. Um, but it was just
Speaker 1: so funny because nobody leaves, nobody has an answer machine anymore,
Speaker 1: right that that's in my notes, you guys making an
Speaker 1: answering machine recording? So sweet? Um, I remember doing that.
Speaker 1: I just remember us having a ball. And I think
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of it that I remember because Paul
Speaker 1: was directing and so we were all just it was
Speaker 1: really fully all just our friends doing this episode. So
Speaker 1: maybe that was part of it. And I feel like, too,
Speaker 1: I have a question about that because Paul directing you
Speaker 1: guys the answering machine message, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm blushing, like they're talking that. Yeah, in the Answering machine,
Speaker 1: don't her parents called his number? Don't. I really was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, do you think like maybe it just
Speaker 1: being you James and Paul in the room made you
Speaker 1: guys like a little spicier and funnier because it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a little family being so silly. Yeah. Also
Speaker 1: probably the fact that I don't think James and I
Speaker 1: had been fun and snuggly. I don't. We hadn't done
Speaker 1: a lot of that yet. This was the first time
Speaker 1: that we were laying down next to each other on
Speaker 1: on a bed and like tickling and cuddling and snuggling,
Speaker 1: and that was a new thing for laughing. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a new thing for Nathan and Haley to be
Speaker 1: to see. It was a new thing for James and
Speaker 1: I to shoot. Um. But also you come into your
Speaker 1: sexy like joy when you come in from the wedding
Speaker 1: and he's like carried you across the threshold and you
Speaker 1: do that little like Hibby walk to the bedroom. Babe.
Speaker 1: Okay the sign fallen off the door. Okay, so cute.
Speaker 1: I remember that. And then I and I really remember
Speaker 1: the scene where James shows up and he comes and
Speaker 1: you know, I walk in. We have to do the
Speaker 1: whole scene. He's telling me I'm here for you. I
Speaker 1: married you because I you know, for better or worse,
Speaker 1: I support you. I'm here and I'm exhausted. That was
Speaker 1: so hard to watch. That was so painful to watch her.
Speaker 1: That was painful, uncertain. I mean, she just couldn't. Why
Speaker 1: was it so painful? Guys, like friends at home, you
Speaker 1: need to know that joy was like cringing through that
Speaker 1: whole scene. I literally said, I'm having heart palpitation, and
Speaker 1: Hillary goes, I feel like I'm going to throw up.
Speaker 1: I had like that acid burn in my throat because
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this sounds so uncomfortable. It was
Speaker 1: so because you know what it was. I think when
Speaker 1: he comes in and says all the right things, it's
Speaker 1: like he's finally manning up and he's not going to
Speaker 1: be a baby and yell at you about pursuing your dreams.
Speaker 1: It's like he's supporting you. And then you just have
Speaker 1: that look and we all went, oh, no, we didn't
Speaker 1: remember what you were going to say. This was We
Speaker 1: did this a long time ago, but we knew it
Speaker 1: was going to be bad. All of us have had
Speaker 1: to do that, you guys. I think, and and you
Speaker 1: know the look a girl gives when she's happy to
Speaker 1: see you, but also what the are you doing here?
Speaker 1: And and you have to pretend as the girl like
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you made this trip. It would have
Speaker 1: been better if you'd given me a heads up, and
Speaker 1: I've got to go do this thing now. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: those those pauses where you're trying to find the right
Speaker 1: thing to say to hurt you, but I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't give you what you need right now, and I'm
Speaker 1: in this awkward position. It's hard enough to do that
Speaker 1: when you know that it's over and you're just trying
Speaker 1: to find the best way to resolve it. Um, but
Speaker 1: to do that well, to watch it between a couple
Speaker 1: that you know it shouldn't be over, that was hard.
Speaker 1: But I remember shooting it too, knowing that, like really
Speaker 1: caring that Nathan and Haley still have a future somewhere somehow,
Speaker 1: and knowing how much she really does love him, and
Speaker 1: feeling all that, but really wrestling with I am so
Speaker 1: young and I am trying to figure so much out,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, did I make the wrong choice.
Speaker 1: I've just have done that. Also in real life, you know,
Speaker 1: broken up with someone and then you're like, here's what
Speaker 1: you should know is that you're really pretty when you
Speaker 1: do it, like thank you. Yeah, I bet you didn't
Speaker 1: get to watch the last time you did that in
Speaker 1: like real life, but you got to watch this version
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh God, damn, I do look good
Speaker 1: when dump someone cute. But also when you came back,
Speaker 1: when it was like you you said what you need
Speaker 1: to said, and you had to leave to go out
Speaker 1: on stage, and you knew that you had said just
Speaker 1: like one thing, one thing too hard and you had
Speaker 1: to come back and kiss him. I mean, you knew
Speaker 1: when you were coming back that he wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be there. You knew it. It really reminded me of
Speaker 1: that feeling that that love is so fragile, and we
Speaker 1: think when we're in it, it feels so strong and
Speaker 1: unbreakable and like nothing can nail it, and we're just like,
Speaker 1: or nothing can you know, can can break it? And
Speaker 1: the truth is it's that I think love actually is
Speaker 1: really fragile in a lot of ways, and it's easy
Speaker 1: to break if you don't I don't know, it's it
Speaker 1: feels like it can fall apart in an instant. I
Speaker 1: experienced this, where you're in something that feels so strong
Speaker 1: with then there's a couple of little chinks in the
Speaker 1: armor and if you let it fester, if you don't
Speaker 1: deal with it, by the way, if you don't get
Speaker 1: honest if you don't, then you just start to let it.
Speaker 1: It starts to chip away at you, and eventually you
Speaker 1: have those moments, just like Nathan and Haley did just then.
Speaker 1: And then of course she's going to go back to
Speaker 1: her hotel and regret it and think I'm crazy. Of
Speaker 1: course I'm in love with him. What am I saying?
Speaker 1: But it's too late. That damage is strong and love
Speaker 1: is fragile, and you have to know what you're going
Speaker 1: to say, and you have to be sure about it
Speaker 1: before you say things like that. And young kids don't
Speaker 1: know that. Kids also don't have protocols to create these
Speaker 1: safe containers where you can say, here's all my fears,
Speaker 1: and I need to say them out loud to you
Speaker 1: so that I can realize they're not true. Right, you know,
Speaker 1: Hayley is speaking her fears and Nathan is hearing them
Speaker 1: as true. And and these two young kids who we
Speaker 1: love don't have the wherewithal that we all have is,
Speaker 1: you know, grown ups to say, here's every irrational thing
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's keeping me up at night, and I
Speaker 1: have to let you know so you know what I'm feeling.
Speaker 1: And we have to make sense of what's real and
Speaker 1: what isn't you You don't have that when you're so
Speaker 1: young and and you can. It's like you you see
Speaker 1: it like a shot to the heart to him, and
Speaker 1: so that is damage that's going to have to be.
Speaker 1: And she's just talking. That's a huge issue between men
Speaker 1: and women mostly anyways, that men are so generally so
Speaker 1: information driven and women are are you know, we're just
Speaker 1: talking it out like I'm just saying it out loud
Speaker 1: because this is how I feel. But I might feel
Speaker 1: differently in a couple of hours, but you know, this
Speaker 1: is how I feel, and men take it as information
Speaker 1: and then they do things with that and you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: that's just emotion. I'm not hold on, that's not for
Speaker 1: a girl. I think it was very sly that they
Speaker 1: mentioned Haley's parents in this episode, because it does remind
Speaker 1: us that they come from two very different parental structures.
Speaker 1: Hailey had the hippie parents that she could like talk
Speaker 1: things out with, and Nathan had to live with Dan
Speaker 1: and Deb, who we know had you know, a pretty
Speaker 1: um rough relationship. Deb fell for another man, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure Dan said all of these sweeping things to get
Speaker 1: her back, like you're my wife and I'm going to
Speaker 1: fight for you. We've heard Dan say those things, and
Speaker 1: so Nathan is saying all of those things to his
Speaker 1: wife now, but he's got to act on them. He
Speaker 1: can't say them, he has to live them. And conversely,
Speaker 1: we see Lucas actually living up to all the things
Speaker 1: that he said. It's really really easy to say like
Speaker 1: the cheesy I'm gonna I'm gonna stay with you forever
Speaker 1: girl stuff. It's a totally different thing to walk the walk,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing Lucas walk the walk in this episode,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, we're seeing Nathan drive away. Like had he
Speaker 1: only sat through that forty minute set, what could have been?
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I don't know for the episode drama.
Speaker 1: I don't know though, if he had a stayed, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Haley, she's processed, Yeah, and Haley wasn't ready
Speaker 1: even if he had staged. She she she sort of
Speaker 1: took took the bite of the apple or open Pandora's
Speaker 1: box if you will. You know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I actually like this not a force for this, because
Speaker 1: I think it is fair her to pursue her dreams.
Speaker 1: There's not absolutely don't you think he should have left her?
Speaker 1: A note or something like you're spectacular, you know, We're
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. Just to leave when she's
Speaker 1: doing the things she's so excited about doing feels petty
Speaker 1: to me. It's like, why would you come here and
Speaker 1: piss on this? It's it's reminding me of what you
Speaker 1: said when we were watching Keith's last scene with just
Speaker 1: how he hits Lucas so hard. Sometimes when people are
Speaker 1: in the depths of their pain, they want to barbe
Speaker 1: at other people with it. They want that like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: when you're so heartbroken that you want someone to see
Speaker 1: how heartbroken you are. It's such a vulnerable thing. He
Speaker 1: drove all the way out there. This is Nathan Scott
Speaker 1: we're talking about. This is like dudes jock and he's
Speaker 1: like non emotional and was raised by Dan. I mean
Speaker 1: for this boy to get in his car and drive
Speaker 1: out there, after the conversations he's had with hay Lee
Speaker 1: on the phone, after all the you know, the thing
Speaker 1: on the news, with the misconception about Chris and all
Speaker 1: of this, to drive out there and wait for her
Speaker 1: with bated breath and have her walk out and not
Speaker 1: throw her arms around him and cover him with kisses
Speaker 1: and go, I'm so glad you're here. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming. And and not only does he
Speaker 1: do that, not only does he stay and give her,
Speaker 1: he gives her the speech. Even after she doesn't throw
Speaker 1: her arms around him, he gives her the speech, I'm
Speaker 1: here for you, whatever you need. It's so vulnerable that
Speaker 1: when she doesn't respond immediately with thank you, baby, I
Speaker 1: love you so much. Let's do this, you and me forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get why he liked it. Now I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the ring to the taking the ring off. Guys, I
Speaker 1: forgot all right, I changed my mind. He had to go.
Speaker 1: You talked me into a joy. You and it makes
Speaker 1: me realize to the you know Hill Peyton observes in
Speaker 1: the episode when she's sitting looking out the window in
Speaker 1: that scene with Brooke and says, all of our worlds
Speaker 1: are being ripped away from us, you know, Peyton's and
Speaker 1: Jake's and Brooks, and so are Nathan and Haley's. And
Speaker 1: you realize it's also happening to Keith when he says,
Speaker 1: everyone I thought I cared about lied to me. Everyone's
Speaker 1: worlds are being ripped out from under them in this
Speaker 1: episode and the only way they're going to get them
Speaker 1: back is by leaning on each other and accepting help.
Speaker 1: Broadcast to accept Lucas and Karen's help, Jake has to
Speaker 1: accept Andy's help like everyone's. They only begin to reclaim
Speaker 1: what they're losing, and they accept some help from other
Speaker 1: people and Nathan apart because they're not accepting each other's help. Ye,
Speaker 1: Haley's like, I don't know if I want your help.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a huge testament to why this
Speaker 1: show has did the test of time. There's no there's
Speaker 1: nothing else. There's no special effects. That's right, there's no
Speaker 1: superheroes here and whatever. I don't need we need to
Speaker 1: belabor the point that, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I'm embarrassed I even said it. I had
Speaker 1: to do it. That's it. There's no superheroes, there's no vampires,
Speaker 1: there's no like teenage I don't know, like what's it
Speaker 1: called glamour suicide? Glam kind of a thing like this
Speaker 1: is that whole riverside vibe? I don't know, but you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like the heightened reality we were
Speaker 1: just I mean, look, we got into some weird ship
Speaker 1: eventually and then you know, story storylines got real interesting
Speaker 1: as we moved through Tree Hill. I mean, look, hiring
Speaker 1: mistresses and private investigators as pretty weird as it is,
Speaker 1: but at least we managed to ground it. The things
Speaker 1: that make us feel everything though, is all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Those kinds of things happened in my hometown. So those
Speaker 1: aren't even like far fetched, you know what I mean? Kid,
Speaker 1: I ever knew anyone who hired a p I really
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was encouraged to do do it, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: Due me too, p I hitman, mistresses, all those things
Speaker 1: were like a deal in my hometown. And hitmen. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the pastors, one of the pastors in our
Speaker 1: town tried to get a parishioner to like, I'll kill
Speaker 1: your wife if you kill mine. Strangers on a train
Speaker 1: ye watched I played Basebaly with his daughter. It was
Speaker 1: like a nightmare. Um. Yes, And so when these things
Speaker 1: happen in tree Hill, it's like, oh, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: But then also also it happens all the time. Thro
Speaker 1: the stranger all the time. Yeah, that's why I still
Speaker 1: get Star News, the local newspaper from Wilmington where we
Speaker 1: filmed this. Oh my god, there's crazy things happening all
Speaker 1: the time, you guys. I was just about to say,
Speaker 1: I love when you excess articles. Would be so happy.
Speaker 1: That's how you know. I'm an old personnel where I'm like,
Speaker 1: y'all see this in the local paper. Check out this headline.
Speaker 1: I mean, Grant and I still watched the local news
Speaker 1: sometimes at night, just because we're like, you never see
Speaker 1: these weird human interest stories. Otherwise you got to turn
Speaker 1: into the local affiliate and see what's what. Thank god,
Speaker 1: Mouth McFadden becomes a reporter later. Thank god. I wish
Speaker 1: Lee Norris was a reporter. I'd watch him on the
Speaker 1: news every night. He would be great. He'd be great,
Speaker 1: would be so good. So military school for Felix, that's
Speaker 1: a good end of the road for him. Does this
Speaker 1: mean we're never going to see Felix again? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. What an unlikable character. Honestly, anytime
Speaker 1: he did something remotely nice, it just got tanked so hard.
Speaker 1: I know, maybe we just had to. I think Dan
Speaker 1: isn't is villain enough for tree Hill. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it was. I mean, Nikki, we've got nick you too,
Speaker 1: who like pops in and out. But yeah, I think,
Speaker 1: my god. I just also don't think the writers ever,
Speaker 1: they never took Felix past like a cartoon character in
Speaker 1: terms of his motivations. Dan was rooted in some things
Speaker 1: that were really scary but interesting to watch and learn about.
Speaker 1: Felix was just like a douche and they tried to
Speaker 1: clean him up by making him be nice to Brook,
Speaker 1: and then Brooke just had to clean up after him.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it or anything. It's fine. I'm fine,
Speaker 1: I'm you know. I think it just felt like more
Speaker 1: of a device. He always kind of felt like, mar
Speaker 1: do you feel like a device. And I think the
Speaker 1: reason it really stands out that his character was a
Speaker 1: device is because of how human they wrote Anna. Yes,
Speaker 1: they didn't put the same effort into his character as
Speaker 1: they put into hers. And it makes me sad because
Speaker 1: in losing his character to military school, it also means
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose Anna like we lost and that didn't
Speaker 1: feel fair. No, think about how different tree Hill would
Speaker 1: have been if we'd had her entire trajectory through graduation,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, or or like when we came back
Speaker 1: after the five year jump, Yeah, you know, like what
Speaker 1: was Anna doing? Man? I wish we'd gotten her back.
Speaker 1: That would have been Nate. Where was Anna? I just
Speaker 1: kept thinking when he was like flipping out on her
Speaker 1: in those scenes and he was like, how could you
Speaker 1: do this? How could you do that? And she was
Speaker 1: talking about how he always blames everyone for everything else.
Speaker 1: I was like, welcome to Felix. It's called accountability, Felix.
Speaker 1: A little dose of some accountability. Felix would be that
Speaker 1: guy on Twitter that like is making bros Off comments
Speaker 1: and it's like and then it's totally ridiculous. I said
Speaker 1: something really horrible. Now I'm being canceled. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: people are just following you because they don't want to
Speaker 1: listen to anymore. Don't have a platform. You haven't been
Speaker 1: canceled from anything. Be more like Jake Felix. We like Jake.
Speaker 1: That's what we need on a T shirt. Like I
Speaker 1: think everyone knows you, guys. I get so many comments
Speaker 1: where people are like enough, I'm like, you don't tell
Speaker 1: me what to do. Well Jake all day? If we
Speaker 1: want to Jake all day? Does he is he in
Speaker 1: the next few Like when does he? Because he goes
Speaker 1: out again again at some right. I mean I think
Speaker 1: he goes to prison at some point. Oh guys, the
Speaker 1: fun part of this is it's kind of like reaching
Speaker 1: into a bag of tricks. We have no idea what's
Speaker 1: coming now, we're skills. I feel like we've been really
Speaker 1: missing it. We missed a lot of comedic relief in
Speaker 1: this episode because the people who have been giving it
Speaker 1: to us, whether it's you know, Mouth or Skills or
Speaker 1: deb who else is our comedic relief? You know for
Speaker 1: any of the River guys, We're missing all of that.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why this episode felt like hard. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and and it actually makes sense when you put it
Speaker 1: that way, why those characters aren't in the episode, because
Speaker 1: this this one was meant to feel low. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know it. You're watching all these people having their world's
Speaker 1: torn apart. And and I'm curious where Keith's threat from
Speaker 1: the beginning comes in, because at the beginning he throws
Speaker 1: a window a window, Oh my god, a window from
Speaker 1: the tower. Come on, throws through a window and says
Speaker 1: I have nothing left to lose, but you do to Dan.
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the episode he's just leaving.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, is what's going on here? I want
Speaker 1: to know what Key's revenge plan is because if we're
Speaker 1: going dark, I want to go all the way. I
Speaker 1: like this storyline for him. I like seeing him finally
Speaker 1: having enough. Yeah, you you can only be the good
Speaker 1: brother for so long. But we also loved the fight
Speaker 1: in the dealership because it was just like three guys
Speaker 1: in suits and there was so much like those guys
Speaker 1: and stripe and gray wool flying around the Henchman, you know,
Speaker 1: his dealers like Tom and Jerry fight for the guys.
Speaker 1: Guys and car dealerships don't wear suits now, they wear
Speaker 1: slacks and those zip up fleeces with like colored shirts.
Speaker 1: I never see a zip up fleece Vestigain telling him
Speaker 1: it well. This also was the episode where Peyton and
Speaker 1: Brooke have their infamous damn it, I hate Monday's gift.
Speaker 1: You know what I appreciate about our little podcast here
Speaker 1: is that we also get lots of messages, not just
Speaker 1: about how much you guys are sick of me talking
Speaker 1: about Jake, but also about how we help out with
Speaker 1: your Monday's. So I like that we come out late
Speaker 1: night on Sunday into Monday morning because Mondays are brutal
Speaker 1: and we're super grateful you guys, spend true. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to here with you guys on Mondays. Do we have
Speaker 1: any standing questions? What do we got here? We go here? Okay,
Speaker 1: oh this is good. I've also had this question, Joy,
Speaker 1: Laura wants to know. Is Haley's pinky ring something Bethany
Speaker 1: wore all the time which was added to Haley's character
Speaker 1: short for many years and I was always curious about this. Well, Laura,
Speaker 1: that ring was given to me by a woman who
Speaker 1: was sort of like a mother figure in my life,
Speaker 1: who actually years later turned out to be a super creepy, manipulative,
Speaker 1: psychotic woman. What So I don't know what that means anymore,
Speaker 1: but that's the story. How have we never talked about this?
Speaker 1: We have. It's within the greater context of some of
Speaker 1: the other things that were going on in my life
Speaker 1: at the time. I see, yes, I understood you need
Speaker 1: to jump into a cocktail. And I was about to
Speaker 1: get excited and be like, Joy, do you remember when
Speaker 1: we went pinky ring shopping and I'm weirdly wearing mine today?
Speaker 1: Maybe I can help you reclaim a pinky ring. That's
Speaker 1: what I need. I needed a pinky ring moment, because yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get match, and I'm like, you know, was
Speaker 1: it a promised ring? Did she make you promise your
Speaker 1: soul to her? She liked turned you into the picture
Speaker 1: of Dorian Gray. It was like it was like a
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a creepy, manipulative way of trying
Speaker 1: to make me feel like I was a part of something,
Speaker 1: um and part of her family and like an ownership
Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, like when I when a
Speaker 1: guy who who gives brook jewelry in a creepy way.
Speaker 1: This happened earlier in season one. It was Felix right
Speaker 1: didn't like Yeah, it was kind of like that kind
Speaker 1: of a moment where it's like you belong to me now, um,
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I had was having some strained
Speaker 1: relationships with my family at the time, and so she
Speaker 1: she kind of came in at a moment that felt yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was in my young twenties and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is great. It feels really like welcoming and awesome
Speaker 1: and all kind of what I always wanted. And then
Speaker 1: it turned out to be a whole sham. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the pinky ring, that's where that comes from.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not a happy, exciting story. But I'll
Speaker 1: get a new pinky ring and it'll be better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to get matching. And can I tell you
Speaker 1: guys something I have Years ago? I gave as a
Speaker 1: gift to a friend of mine, UM, and the sister
Speaker 1: of a guy who I used to date when I'm
Speaker 1: still good friends with UM, who had three kids. I
Speaker 1: don't know how I wound up on like some internet
Speaker 1: rabbit hole and discovered that there are certain cultures or
Speaker 1: the women were pinky rings in a stack for their children.
Speaker 1: I gave her these three bands and three men nude,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know, there's like there's like a
Speaker 1: whole cultural significance to women and their lineage with paint
Speaker 1: to rest. Maybe we should just make that should I
Speaker 1: love that? You know what? I want a big motherfucking
Speaker 1: diamond for each of us, like on our pinky so
Speaker 1: we look like like bosses. That's what I want. I
Speaker 1: think we go big mafia rings. Yeah, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to look like you know, I like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a like a big chunky gold boot. I'm going
Speaker 1: so techy, so big. When we walk into a restaurant,
Speaker 1: we knocked that thing on the table then people come
Speaker 1: running and right, this is my favorite thing to find.
Speaker 1: It's things that are like jewelry or you know, clothes
Speaker 1: on it that are like, they're so awful, the hangar,
Speaker 1: you're like, it's it's so bad that it's got to
Speaker 1: be good When I put this on. Sometimes it really is.
Speaker 1: And I think jewelry can be the same way. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go to find something spicy to
Speaker 1: replace that thing. Joy. Well, what about it? Okay, what
Speaker 1: about you guys? So look, if you could change the
Speaker 1: ship name of your person for your character? Oh this
Speaker 1: is from who's this from? Oh? Sorry, this is from Jade.
Speaker 1: She's asking she's asking us, Um, if you could change
Speaker 1: the relationship name the ship name. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not cool. Um, that's relationship the person your character
Speaker 1: ends up with. Would you, for example, Layton to Pucus.
Speaker 1: That's so mean, that's terrible. Yeah, but I also kissed
Speaker 1: a lot of people on this show, So hold on,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do some wordle over here and
Speaker 1: figure out what my options are. I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like the names, like ship names, end up being the
Speaker 1: most obviously attractive sound in terms of combination of names
Speaker 1: like what are you gonna call Brook and Julian like
Speaker 1: Julia like that would have been weird, like Bullian makes
Speaker 1: more silent. Yeah, I think I think we hate it
Speaker 1: on Pathon, Oh my god, or Hay that would have
Speaker 1: been so weird too. Yeah, it's there's something about I
Speaker 1: don't know they. I think they. I think they end
Speaker 1: up where they end up in a natural sort. Hold on, Wait, Sophia,
Speaker 1: you cringe though? Is ship not short for relationship? Am
Speaker 1: I wrong? What does ship mean? Oh? You okay? Maybe
Speaker 1: you're just cringing it like the idea. I think that's
Speaker 1: an Eminem reference. Yea, from that so it's used as
Speaker 1: a verb, yeah, like if you're if you're a stand,
Speaker 1: like if you're a one direction stand, or like a
Speaker 1: one tree hill stand. But the thing is is it's
Speaker 1: become synonymous with like super fan. But the stand reference
Speaker 1: from the Eminem song is like someone terrifying, terrifying the lexicon.
Speaker 1: The sort of colloquialism has changed from the proper or
Speaker 1: I guess, so it's used in irony is what you're saying? No,
Speaker 1: it's used no like I'm such a fan, I'm like
Speaker 1: such a Oh my god, I'm such a stalker of
Speaker 1: that band. Right. No, that the stalker sense has kind
Speaker 1: of dropped off and it's more like a super fan thing.
Speaker 1: There's a whole generation of kids out there that don't
Speaker 1: know the stand video there. It's a stand um okay.
Speaker 1: So with that said, of all the shows on TV,
Speaker 1: what ship do you stand your grandma? Wow? I got
Speaker 1: to think about it. Um. Oh gosh. You know what
Speaker 1: I stand is that it wasn't ever or even a
Speaker 1: romantic relationship. Um. Don Draper and Joan Holloway. Oh. Every
Speaker 1: time the two of them were on screen together or
Speaker 1: working together, there was something about those two actors in
Speaker 1: a scene together that made me love and I love
Speaker 1: those characters together. Sounds great. Yeah, So what would what
Speaker 1: would their ship be? It would be done, yeah, John John,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Er Holloway. It's got to be like
Speaker 1: a draw away or oh see there you go. We're
Speaker 1: doing it. Girls from doing it. Yeah. They on my
Speaker 1: show they call me and Edwin Hodge because we're Samantha
Speaker 1: Griffith and Malcolm Kingsley. They call us Griffsley and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we sound like we came out of Harry Potter. But
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm like, okay, oh wait, you know
Speaker 1: I love is the couple from yellow Stone the Oh
Speaker 1: my god, well I love Kelsey and her her boyfriend
Speaker 1: on that but her husband. Yes, but but the Kelly
Speaker 1: Riley and what are their names? I love them. That's
Speaker 1: that couples. So I would like to be in that relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're faster. I would like to be in that relationship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: None of my ships are grown up ships. Um, because
Speaker 1: my kids only watch kids shows and so jes no no,
Speaker 1: Gus went through a huge Zombies phase. Um, the musical Zombies.
Speaker 1: And now George has caught onto it and there's cheerleaders
Speaker 1: in it, and she's just like so freaking into it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, freaking z and Addison. I'm a Zaddison ship friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a whole new cheerleading pack coming up. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a combination of all the stuff my family cares about,
Speaker 1: a little bit of sports, some undead and a cheerleading skirt. Fantastic. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's ripped, ripping Bath from Yellowstone. Our assistant just told
Speaker 1: us that, what's your what is that? That's ripping Beth
Speaker 1: from Yellowstone. That's a couple of yeah, but is that
Speaker 1: rethym Beth. We could play this game for hours. Guys, Guys,
Speaker 1: I think we might need to put ourselves to bed.
Speaker 1: Even though it's early in the day. We are going
Speaker 1: to spin a wheel. Let's do it. Who's going to
Speaker 1: be our most likely to this week most likely to
Speaker 1: get a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be Hailey James? Oh maybe, I guess Hill?
Speaker 1: That makes sense? But also what about Rachel Gettina, because
Speaker 1: didn't she end up like being a TV host or something?
Speaker 1: That's right? Rachel definitely feels like she'd be. Yeah, she's ambitious,
Speaker 1: She's very ambitious. Yeah, for sure. Um. I also still
Speaker 1: see Leonora's as getting I know he's our answer for everything,
Speaker 1: but honestly, a renaissance in real life. Barry Corbin Berry's
Speaker 1: been in literally everything, does have one. No, but he
Speaker 1: should I don't know. Daphne also, by the way, definitely
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