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Speaker 2: Welcome In, Welcome In, David Kitchen COO of Late Round

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Speaker 2: with JJ Zacharyesin c oh of Late Round, JJ, I

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Speaker 2: noticed you're not wearing a hat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no hat today. I you know, last year bullied

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Speaker 1: last week, I was bullied into not wearing hat because

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Speaker 1: I still haven't got my haircut. But given the way,

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Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to do is, since we're going

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Speaker 1: out to San Francisco, I want to time the haircut properly.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get a haircut every two weeks

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Speaker 1: up until that point, and so I haven't gotten a haircut,

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Speaker 1: like it's been like a week over basically.

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Speaker 3: But now we have this winter storm about to.

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Speaker 1: Hit you and then me, you being in Nashville, me

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Speaker 1: being in Charlotte, and it's getting icier and icier out there.

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Speaker 3: For our forecast for you and me, so I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let it be known. I'm gonna try.

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Speaker 1: To get cause I got Friday's episode that I gotta

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Speaker 1: do on the things that I missed. I haven't finished

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Speaker 1: that one up yet. And then I got to try

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Speaker 1: to finish the Tuesday episode before the weekend hits, so

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Speaker 1: that you guys have at least that content out there,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know what this power situation is going

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Speaker 1: to look like in Charlotte next week.

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Speaker 2: The same in Nashville. These weather models keep on going

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Speaker 2: up and down, up and down, and I knew is

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Speaker 2: like just a clickbait. What happens in the South is

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Speaker 2: that you get these reports of snow and and I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about everybody. Everybody goes to the grocery store and

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Speaker 2: gets milk and bread and eggs. Yesterday I saw like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: get ahead of it, and I'm gonna go to I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go to Loew's and get a propane heater. And

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Speaker 2: then Holly, my wife, was like, can you get a

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Speaker 2: can of sweetened condensed milk? And for those that live

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Speaker 2: born upstate, New York. She was a New Yorker, so

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Speaker 2: I get it. But snow cream is a thing done

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Speaker 2: here in the South where you put condensed milk and

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Speaker 2: it's gross. It's just what we do.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day because I you know, growing up

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Speaker 3: Like we had blizzards. We had tons of.

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Speaker 1: Stuff growing up, and back in the day, we would

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Speaker 1: we would we would just pour that into the snow

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Speaker 1: what you you know, you guys put like vanilla extract

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Speaker 3: You guys, it's like a kitchen outside sprinkles.

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Speaker 2: I just have to make sure the balls clean. But

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Speaker 2: I will say this, my two dollars can of sweet

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Speaker 2: and canns milk, I saw all these, you know, middle

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Speaker 2: let them beat me. I got my stuff. So two

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Speaker 2: And that's how it goes sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean look these like you said, these

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, see the meteorologists were wrong, but they don't

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Speaker 1: Like I might not even be able to watch the

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Speaker 1: championship games this week. That has crossed my mind more

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Speaker 2: I have not even thought about that angle, but you're right, that's.

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Speaker 1: One of the things. I'm thinking about that more than

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about watching these games.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got eighteen days until Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Lex.

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Speaker 2: I love that I can say super Bowl in here

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Speaker 2: because of our partnership with the NFL, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: The big game, big game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super Bowl ninety two days until the NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft in Pittsburgh, JJ, and then I already started a

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Speaker 2: counter for the NFL season two hundred thirty two days.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to there's so much stuff we have

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Speaker 2: Hey, two or thirty two days, that's a long time.

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Speaker 2: But again, this is a this is an interactive show.

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Speaker 2: And JJ mentioned last week with the caveat it's a

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Speaker 2: playground for the off season. Here's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: We're going to the super Bowl in two weeks. Let

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Speaker 2: us know, like what kind of content you you might

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Speaker 2: right now, just the good takes.

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Speaker 1: Things can correct.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Bill's uh situation, where you know, we

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Speaker 2: We better know that there are receipts that are out

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Speaker 2: there and uh so so interact with us during the

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Speaker 2: With that, JJ, let's go ahead to get into today's news,

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Speaker 2: today's fantasy news. All right, we've already talked a little

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Speaker 2: Here's my question, JJ, just for you, what is your

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Speaker 1: But but here's the thing. I think that teams that

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Speaker 1: It's like, to me, the weather stuff is an advantage

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Speaker 3: Like I thought that, you know, I think that the

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for the most complete team to win

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Speaker 3: Really sports in general. Go go watch the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's my If you want predictability, just

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Speaker 1: And so you know, Kayleb Williams has that clutch gene

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Speaker 1: then the New England game, like, New England's probably a

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Speaker 3: But Drake May didn't play like a great game. He

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Speaker 1: Make the throws, right like he he obviously had turnover

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Speaker 3: So like, to me, I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 1: Make whether be like this massive differentiator of like why

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Speaker 3: Didn't advance to me.

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Speaker 1: It's it's all part of it, like the beauty of

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw, but the Dolphins GM

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Speaker 1: Do I think that there are narratives that are way

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Speaker 2: because Ken Coleman was the first pick of the second round.

436
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: Yea, even right before Lad mcconky.

437
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: Right, So if it was not Lad McConkie, the list

438
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 2: of receivers in that second round, Uh, Jalynn Polk was

439
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: one eighty eighty. Mitchell Corley was the next one. Yeah,

440
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 2: Jermaine Burton.

441
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: Remember the back they traded out of the first round

442
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 1: though in that draft. Yeah, and that's when that's when

443
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: the Chiefs went up and got Xavier Worthy, which you know,

444
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 1: you can question whether he's like it or not, but

445
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 1: I think any team would rather have Xavier Worthy at

446
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: this point than ke On Coleman.

447
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, pure soul. All Right, the Patriots path continues. You

448
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 2: talked about the the bo Nicks injury. Uh, I mean

449
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: Broncos fans had maybe a few hours to celebrate before

450
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 2: the world came just.

451
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 3: Chris, more like minutes it came out like right after.

452
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do want to say one thing about the

453
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: Patriots is that there's a lot of people that are

454
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: still like on them about the the the teams that

455
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: they faced this year, right, and like how they've had

456
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: such an easy path. In my opinion, the only way

457
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: that that narrative wouldn't exist right now, is if the

458
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: Bills had won and they would have to play.

459
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 3: Josh Allen because the AFC was was more or less terrible.

460
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: Maybe Jacksonville, you could argue if they had to play

461
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: jack Like if Jacksonville would have won and then New

462
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: England played Jacksonville in round two in the divisional round

463
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: and that was a more complete team, whatever the case

464
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: may be. I mean, they're beating who they have to beat. Like,

465
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: I still think the Patriots are pretty good team. And

466
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, like this isn't this. We knew this going

467
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. It was a weak overall pool of

468
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: teams and any team could do it, So why can't

469
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Speaker 1: the Patriots do it? I mean, I think the pay

470
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: we should expect the Patriots to win. I don't know

471
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: if they beat the spread, but I think that they

472
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: should be expected to win. And I think that the

473
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Speaker 1: NFC team is going to be the favorite in the

474
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But any given Sunday, Man, I mean, it

475
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: could it could still happen, and it would be a crazy,

476
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 1: crazy story with your boy Mike Rabel getting that w

477
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: if it.

478
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 2: Happens, Man. I mentioned it on the Swell Cast yesterday,

479
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: but me tapping up Rabel at the Super Bowl a

480
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: radio Row.

481
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's well, that's you assuming that they well,

482
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean he wouldn't he probably wouldn't be around Radio Row.

483
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: I'll go find him. It's like a Tiger Wood big dog.

484
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, you know, like, Hey, I'm proud of I'm

485
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: proud of you, Harol Landry, I'm proud of you. Bro

486
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: all right, Sharboney, torn acl what this late in the season.

487
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: What does this mean for Kenneth Walker going into next season?

488
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 1: Well, it's weird because Walker is a free agent, and

489
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: so now we have a really big question of what

490
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Seattle is going to do.

491
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: You know, with Walker, you could you could spin this

492
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: a lot of different ways.

493
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: You could spin this as a good thing for Walker

494
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: because now you know they have a higher chance of

495
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: resigning him. And if they resign him, Zach Sharboney is

496
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: not going to be ready probably until mid season at

497
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: the earliest, and ready as in like being a legit

498
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: contributor to that offense. And so we could get Bell

499
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: cow Sharboney or sorry Bell cal Walker in a hypothetically

500
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: good offense. I think Clint Kubiak is gonna be gone.

501
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: We would assume he's gonna get a head coaching gig,

502
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: but in a hypothetically decent offense environment. And we know

503
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: that Walker in a bell call role can be really

504
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: valuable from a fantasy perspective.

505
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 3: Now the downside, if.

506
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: You want to look at this negatively, maybe we don't

507
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: want Seattle to resign him. And now there's a higher

508
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 1: chance that they resigned him because they try to keep

509
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: him because of the Sharboney injury. Because realistically, wouldn't we

510
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: want Kenneth Walker to go somewhere where he could, you know,

511
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: definitely be a bellcou like, definitely be that player.

512
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: So I think that this could go in a lot

513
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: of different directions.

514
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: From like a value standpoint, I'd probably lean like it's

515
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: just better for Walker from a fantasy perspective in general,

516
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: because there's one less player to kind of worry about

517
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: and deal with. And then sharbon Ay, I've always been

518
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: a sharbon A guy, Like I think that he's a

519
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: really solid back. You know, he's not like elite, but

520
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: he's always been like a James Connor type where he

521
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: can just do everything and just get it done.

522
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: He's had a good season as far as like just

523
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: touchdowns and everything. Else.

524
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just get frustrated, Like

525
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: whenever there's a player digging, it's kind of like Tyler

526
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Algier with everyone hates Tyler Algier, but it's like, okay,

527
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: but he's still a pretty good running back overall, even

528
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: though it's frustrating. So and look like Kenneth Walker's not

529
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: Bejon Robinson either, you know, so, uh, there's there's a

530
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: lest some reason to be using sharks, maybe not as

531
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: much as they did in that twenty twenty five season,

532
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's a sad injury. And you know,

533
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: the one thing that I'm very much looking forward to

534
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: is to seeing if Bayless Jones gets any touches this

535
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: weekend because after the Bears lost Daylas, Jones tweeted a

536
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: laughing crying emoji, which is crazy because the dude was

537
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: absolutely horrific in Chicago, like not.

538
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Only like age four, I mean yeah, Day two bust.

539
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: And then just someone made a low lights high like

540
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: you know, put it together and quote tweeted it and stuff,

541
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: and uh like no, like no shade to Vayless Jones

542
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: for having a really bad time in Chicago, Like he's

543
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: better than me at football, but don't like rock the

544
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: boat like that whenever you were clearly a detriment to

545
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: that team, Like, what are you doing? Man? So I

546
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: kind of want to see him get some touches and

547
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: see what maybe happens if Karma comes back and bites

548
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: him a little bit.

549
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got him, they got Shaheed obviously. Uh,

550
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: you know, Hulani's on IR and Kenneth Walker, he's just

551
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: you know, watching him out there. It's just like a

552
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: proud day, Like, Hey, I wasn't wrong. I was just

553
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: early on him this season, Like I me drafting him

554
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: in the fourth or fifth round this year. That's why.

555
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: That's why, you know, So.

556
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I've I've never been right on Kenneth Walker.

557
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: I was right from a dynasty perspective the first couple

558
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: of years, and then I was wrong last year, and

559
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: then I was wrong this year because I thought that

560
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: he should be drafted where he was being drafted. But yeah,

561
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: just the way it goes in Fantasy.

562
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Make Mike twenty four says, this is why you don't

563
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: This is why you don't draft until week twenty Yeah

564
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: and go yeah real late in the season. Okay, JJ.

565
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: Last week I had the question of man, how many

566
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: head coaches and offensive coordinators are teams going to have?

567
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: And I couldn't really find a list, so I just

568
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 2: decided to put it together myself. So what we have

569
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: is a list right here for our audio listeners of teams,

570
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: and then the head coaches and then the offensive coordinators.

571
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: Next to him, let's talk about some fantasy relevant stuff

572
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: because really a lot of that stuff is with the

573
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: offensive coordinators. Mike McDaniel going to the Chargers amazing.

574
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Like, the

575
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: one thing that's gonna be interesting is this shift from

576
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: because them from a run game perspective, the Chargers with

577
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: Greg Roman would run a lot of power, a lot

578
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: of those like Man's Man Man's schemes. And then this

579
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be more of a zone scheme with Mike

580
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: McDaniel coming from that Shanahan Kubiak tree, right, And so

581
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: what's that gonna look like? You know, I have some

582
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: numbers that I'll share in a little bit in the

583
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: main event about about that, but I think that's gonna

584
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: be a little interesting. And then the one thing that's

585
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: like a McDaniel staple is the motion that he uses

586
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: to get and free up wide receivers.

587
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: And he's been doing that obviously in Miami. Like last year,

588
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: I think they.

589
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Were first in the league in motion, and like two

590
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: years ago they were second in the league. So use

591
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: a ton of motion, and you do it in Miami

592
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: when you have Jalen Wattle and Tyreek Hill. You could argue, though,

593
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: this is like a much more robust situation right now

594
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: in LA with QJ Lad and Trey Harris. You know

595
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: who's who's gonna be a second year guy who I

596
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: think is kind of an interesting name to keep in mind.

597
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: And then you know Ronde Gatsten doing what he did

598
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: as a receiving tight end. And then you have this backfield,

599
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: and then you have these offensive linemen that are gonna

600
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: be coming back and Slater in all and you're just like,

601
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he's.

602
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: A good smart mind in the league.

603
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: And even if the even if you're sitting there and

604
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, I don't know if his scheme

605
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: will naturally like he's gonna make it work. I just

606
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: feel confident in that because I think he's a good coach.

607
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: So I think McDaniel to the Chargers is gonna just

608
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the splits with with Tua and

609
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: how his yards per attempt went up Josh or Justin

610
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: Herbert already has a really nice floor with yards per temp. Like,

611
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: if that increases at all, that Chargers offense could look really,

612
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: really good. I'm very excited. I couldn't figure out and

613
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: craft the right tweet for this, but I was like

614
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: something along the lines of, like me betting the Chargers

615
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl for the eleventh straight year,

616
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, like they're always like that, But I do

617
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: feel like this is a really really complete team that

618
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: could be on the field next year.

619
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just from entertaining, you know they're gonna get

620
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna get all the primetime games because just that

621
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: team with those weapons. And then and McDaniel.

622
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dynamic between McDaniel and Harball is awesome. I

623
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch that.

624
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I got Petsing Zoo in Detroit. Drew Petsing,

625
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: the Lions offensive coordinator. Yeah.

626
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: My immediate reaction was like, this is dumb, But then

627
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, digging into it a little bit more.

628
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: I'll have some data on this later as well.

629
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: But he has put together decent run games and obviously

630
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: that's a staple in Detroit and what Dan Campbell wants

631
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: to do. And I think that's part of the reason

632
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: why McDaniel they didn't see him as a fit is

633
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: because they just have different kind of run schemes and

634
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: ways that they would want to to to run that offense.

635
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: So I'll have more on pet saying, I don't think

636
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: it's like a slam dunk hire like McDaniel, but I

637
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: think it's it's fine.

638
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then the Chiefs, they just they love to

639
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: recycle their coordinators. They hired Eric Binemy as their new

640
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator.

641
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: He was at least better than Matt Naggie. I mean,

642
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie came in and literally just torpedoed that offensive efficiency.

643
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: And for your perspective, you got to be very happy

644
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: that man Titans hired Robert Salah instead of going after

645
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Naggie because that would have been that would have been rough.

646
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why he's a head coaching Candidate's

647
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: crazy to me.

648
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, like he learned some things, and I

649
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: think it really is his relationship with some guys that

650
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: were in that Chiefs front office that are now with

651
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: the Titans. But yeah, as far as the head coach,

652
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: the Giants gets a horriball we already knew that Falcons

653
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: get Stefanski. And the fun thing with some of these

654
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: coaching hire is you look at some of the dry

655
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: if you look at it through like a pro wrestling lens,

656
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: which I'm not like I used to watch pro wrestling

657
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: when I was like a.

658
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Team Generation X and stuff.

659
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna do the emotions, but yeah, so,

660
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: but you tell us what to do.

661
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: I think you can tell us what to wear.

662
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, keep going, but I mean, this is what it is,

663
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: was Stefanski and the Baker Mayfield drama.

664
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Because yes, everyone's like, oh, it's so unprofessional for Ben

665
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Johnson to say f the Packers in the locker room,

666
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, guys, this is sports. They're competitive people.

667
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Let Baker Mayfield have this chip on his shoulder about

668
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and the breakup that he had in Cleveland,

669
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: because it's gonna make for better drama and television, which

670
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: is why we watch sports. That's exactly why did we

671
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: all love watching Indiana just win the national championship.

672
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: Because of the story and had everything to do with

673
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: the story.

674
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: That's it. It wasn't the fact that we fell in

675
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: love with that individual school.

676
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: It's a story and how the however.

677
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Came together and the players and the team and the

678
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: coaching on that team. It's no different in the NFL.

679
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: Like you you want drama, even if you don't think

680
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: you want the drama, you want it.

681
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Baker said, yesterday failed is quite the reach

682
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: because someone said that his failed experiencing Cleveland with Deshaun Watson,

683
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, and Baker quotes, we do it failed is

684
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: quite the reach. Pal still waiting on a text call

685
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: from him after I got shipped off like a piece

686
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: of garbage. Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach, Yes, yes,

687
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: give me. It's all that drama.

688
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: And then especially because like now, no matter what happens,

689
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: like there's gonna be something that comes from and it's

690
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna be hilarious. Like that's right, Like either Baker destroys

691
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: them and Kevin Stefanski looks like a moron, or Baker

692
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: gets destroyed and he looks like a moron. And that's

693
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: why we're watching this because we want to see We

694
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: were watching sports to watch people conquer something that we

695
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: don't think is possible, and and to just to beat

696
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: up on one another in a in a contained environment

697
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: where no one's really hurt, you know, it's just fun

698
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: to watch, Like we want that drama.

699
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: And then the other one is Robert Sala now playing

700
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen twice a year because they had the handshake

701
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: drama with Jacksonville and San fran when Liam said keep

702
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: my name out of your mouth, and I think it's

703
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: like threatened to kill going.

704
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. It's fantastic.

705
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Needs worked. Like, I don't watch the NBA that much,

706
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: but I know that people love the NBA because there

707
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened as much recently, but there's a lot

708
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: of like just stories and stuff off the court.

709
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: And yes, this is the NFL needs stuff like this.

710
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: It's great for the game.

711
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. As far as these other coaching jobs, Bill's, Ravens, Steelers, Raiders, Cardinals, Browns,

712
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: what are we hoping for? It is just like offensive

713
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: coordinators for these guys like Bills and Ravens, they've got

714
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: franchise qbs.

715
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are gonna get I think they're

716
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the ones who get mentor Yeah. And then

717
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: I think the Bills get Kubiak, and I think the

718
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Steelers get Shula, and then the Raiders are probably next

719
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: to get and then like the Cardinals and Browns, who

720
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: know like they they're they're whatever, Like like the Cardinals

721
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: can get Matt Naggie or something, or like Arthur Smith

722
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: or something like that, and no one will.

723
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, seeing the Ballers melt down after Naggie or Smith

724
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: is their head coach.

725
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: If Arthur Smith goes there, I mean it'd be.

726
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: It'd be worth the yes. All right. With that being said,

727
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: let's get on to today's data.

728
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Today's data. So I meant to do this last week

729
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: with the quarterback stuff, but this is showing you which

730
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: players outperformed ADP expectation most and least this season. I'm

731
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: only looking at relevant games. I'm gonna start doing this

732
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: more often. This is partially something that I just think

733
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: is smarter to do, but also I've gotten the quest

734
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: from a lot of people to just remove the final

735
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: game of the season because it's so weird with you know,

736
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: some teams playing for thanking, yeah, some players not playing whatever,

737
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: And so the players that outperform ADP expectation most are

738
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: at the top so Christian McCaffrey leads the list. Camp

739
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: Scataboo I did have a minimum eight games played. He

740
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: played eight games. Jonathan Taylor, Kenneth Gainwell, Rico Dowdell, Travis Etn,

741
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams, James Cook, Quin, Shawn Judkins, b Jean Robinson.

742
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Those are the guys who were the league winners, if

743
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: you will, at running back this year, which I think

744
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: you look at that list and you're like, yeah, that

745
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: makes sense, right, Like those are the guys who outperform

746
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: their ADP most and then the guys in the opposite side,

747
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, Isaiah Pacheco, and then there's a lot of

748
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: like late rounders who just didn't do anything, which is

749
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: why they're on this list. So like Ray Davis, Trevor

750
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: ETN had some ADP. DJ Giddens as like a backup

751
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: to Jonathan Taylor, will Shipley, TODJ Brooks. So all that

752
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: those rookies who just didn't do anythingcause they never got

753
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Ted Bigsby who got traded, so obviously that's

754
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: why you know his name's on there.

755
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: Isaaco again backup, it just didn't do anything. And then

756
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: Cayleb Johnson.

757
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he still didn't wouldn't have done anyth because

758
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, and then Caleb Johnson was the worst

759
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: draft pick at running back by far this past year.

760
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: And I can at least say I can at least

761
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: walk away from redraft this past year and say that

762
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: I did have Jalen Warren over Caleb Johnson, and I

763
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: had Jalen Warren as the guy to target in that backfield.

764
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: So at least, I, you know, I got some stuff wrong,

765
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: even on this list, I got some stuff wrong, but

766
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: at least that part, uh, I did get right.

767
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if we would have known that Christian

768
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: McCaffrey would be the last man standing there in San Francisco.

769
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: One thing I am mad about and this is a

770
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: this is one of those like sure JJA. It was

771
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: then when I first did the draft guide, I had

772
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey as a player to target, and I removed

773
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: it right before we launched the guide. I had the

774
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: blur britten and everything, because it was kind of hard

775
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: to just be like, guys, if he plays, he's great,

776
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: and you should, so I just kept them in the

777
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: same tier one as all the other guys, so at

778
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: least I had him there.

779
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: But I do wish I was more aggressive with CMC

780
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: from like.

781
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: A you know, letting them be let it let it

782
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: be known that you should be drafting them.

783
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: This is my second row, second year in a row

784
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: not drafting Alvin Kamara. It went terribly two years ago.

785
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: This year it was much better. So yeah, that was

786
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, that was one of the things. And then

787
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: you look at these guys. They just didn't get a chance.

788
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: They didn't get a chance, these rookies.

789
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any I don't think there's any

790
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: problem in throwing darts at DJ Giddens or Will Shipley,

791
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: whoever the case.

792
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: You know, rooks even like, yeah, it's not a.

793
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Bad idea to throw those darts. It's just that the

794
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: guys in front of them didn't get hurt. And that's

795
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: just the way it goes. But I will say that historically,

796
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: when you look at league winners from the later rounds,

797
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: they're not just pure handcuffs. It's just not Usually those

798
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: are the guys like you can get them in best Ball.

799
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. But in a regular redraft league,

800
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: when you can pick guys off off the waiver wire.

801
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: Throw those darts more at players who might get opportunity

802
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: right away, because you're just gonna be stashing those handcuffs.

803
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna drop them first. And then that injury happens

804
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: week nine and you're.

805
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: Like, well, I drafted Todd.

806
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Brooks, but you know it's it's uh, it's it's kind

807
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: of a waste of a roster spot because those injuries

808
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: aren't aren't guaranteed to happen in the first couple of

809
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: weeks of the season.

810
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: All right, J J. Let's get on to what people want,

811
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: and that is your hard fast, never changing too early.

812
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: Running back rankings.

813
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: The late round main event.

814
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: Let's start with number one, the guy that probably won

815
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: you some championships. He won me my home league last year.

816
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: B Jon Robinson at number one.

817
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured I'd go one to ten because I

818
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: think it's more dramatic that way, like I did. I

819
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: did ten to one last week. But everyone knew who

820
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: number one was going to be. You know, it's just

821
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: not as not as fun. Uh, So we'll go be

822
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Jon Robinson at number one. He's been the RB three,

823
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: RB two in the last two seasons. My my untrained eye.

824
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's trained, I don't know. I think Bjhon Robinson

825
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: is one of the best running backs I've ever watched

826
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: in my life period. Like I've said this for years

827
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: in the discord and on, you know, in the in

828
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: the live streams and stuff for patrons, But I'm just

829
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: a massive Bjon Robinson fan. As a player, his contact

830
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: balance is unreal on like, just I can't even comprehend it.

831
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: He's been RB three and RB two over the last

832
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: two years. That's in relevant weeks, you know, last two seasons,

833
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent sixty five percent running back rushers. He

834
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: had a nineteen point eight percent target share last year,

835
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: which is awesome. The receiving numbers are something that you

836
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: should really focus on for running backs year over year

837
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: because they're stickier than a lot of the rushing numbers are.

838
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: And then the other thing that's kind of a wild card.

839
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: Obviously you get a new coaching staff, so we don't

840
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: know exactly how this backfiel is going to look and

841
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: be split. But Tyler Algier is a free agent, so

842
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: if he doesn't re sign, chances are whoever, whatever running

843
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: back is the RB two, there is an inferior player

844
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: to Tyler Algiers. So I think b Jon Robinson is

845
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: the easy one oh one in all formats next year,

846
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: well maybe not super flex, but in in you know,

847
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: half BPR PPR, whatever the case may be. I'd be

848
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: taking him over any wide receiver next season.

849
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: They also high Bill Callahan, who is like one of

850
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: the best offensive line coaches.

851
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: At some point, like when does that like not be

852
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: the case anybody?

853
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: Zachy left with his son, the offensive line actually got better.

854
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: But you know who knows who that is? All right?

855
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: Number two Jamiir Gibbs, he's in the Petsing zoo.

856
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I think that that Gibbs is probably the the one

857
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: O two in.

858
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: Redraft next year.

859
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, these two guys are just so locked in,

860
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, as like such solid cornerstones for your

861
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: redraft teams, and they're so safe that it's hard to

862
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: kind of go against them and go away from them.

863
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: So Drew Petsing His teams in Arizona have been eighth, ninth,

864
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: and fifteenth and rushing success rate over his three seasons there,

865
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: which is pretty strong. This season was a little bit

866
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: of an outlier. There were first in the NFL and

867
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: dropbacks over expected. They're usually a lot. They were usually

868
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: a lot more run heavy, which is again plays into

869
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: why I think Detroit and Dan Campbell really liked him,

870
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: because that's kind of his style. He's a he's a

871
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: run game guy, and he likes to lean on the run.

872
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: Gibbs is obviously a talented player. Seventeen percent target share

873
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: this past year sixty percent running back rusher both were

874
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: career highs. The Lions can cut David Montgomery this offseason

875
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: and save money against the cap, and that's huge because

876
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: Montgomery's been taking looks at the goal line and again,

877
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine a scenario where the running back

878
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: that would come in for Montgomery would be significantly better

879
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: or even as good as Montgomery is. So Gibbs is

880
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: more than likely going to have more inferior competition in

881
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: his backfield and that would lead to a lot more

882
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: goal line looks. Like last year he had ten goal

883
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: line rushes, Montgomery at sixteen. Imagine if, even imagine if

884
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: Gibbs doubles his his goal line work. I mean, that's

885
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: crazy to think about in terms of what his ceiling

886
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: could be. So to me, the one oh one, one

887
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: oh two, they're in a tier like it's it's you know,

888
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: this could obviously change, but to me, it's very obvious

889
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: that these two guys are the guys that you're gonna

890
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: want in Fantasy next year.

891
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: All Right, I guess you're not worried about the electromagnetic

892
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: fields in San Francisco because you've got CC at number

893
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: three Christian McCaffrey.

894
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, to be fair, my first words in

895
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: the notes are unbelievably worried. So I am. I am

896
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: worried about about Christian McCaffrey. He had three hundred eleven

897
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: rush attepts and one hundred and twenty nine targets this

898
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: past year. That's that doesn't even count the playoffs. Like,

899
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: that's obscene, it's crazy. That's definitely not repeatable. You know,

900
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: I wrote I don't know if you remember this kitchen,

901
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: but I did that article and that sort of like

902
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: mini study on Saquon Barkley this offseason, in this summer,

903
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: where I talked about how people were thinking about regression

904
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: the wrong way with these guys who see a lot

905
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: of work the previous year. They shouldn't think of it

906
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: in terms of injury, right, which people will naturally do

907
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey, and I will too, Like if there's

908
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: there's there's there's fear of injury in any running back,

909
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: especially one who's older and has somewhat of a history.

910
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: But the bigger deal is that when you just when

911
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: a running back just sees a lot of volume, they're

912
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: almost definitely gonna not see a lot of volume the

913
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: next year because that just naturally regresses, just like if

914
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, you know, Brandon Marshall one year in

915
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Chicago had like one hundred and I had like a

916
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: forty percent target share in that offense, which is the

917
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: highest that we've seen since twenty eleven.

918
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: We don't sit there and say.

919
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: Oh, b marsh is just gonna walk into the next

920
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: season and see just as much volume. We say, no,

921
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: that was something that that offense just needed in that moment, and.

922
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna regress.

923
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: That's exactly how I feel about Christian McCaffrey, where he's

924
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: still gonna see a lot of volume, though you know,

925
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: like regression doesn't mean a relevancy, and the offense itself

926
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: is really good and you can't deny the results Christian

927
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: McCaffrey in relevant games from a from a finished points

928
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: per game ranking standpoint and seasons where he's been healthy

929
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: RB one, RB one, RB one, RB two, RB two

930
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: and RB twelve, and that RB twelve is his rookie season.

931
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: That is insane. It's insane, like to me fantasy football.

932
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Yes, you can lose it in the free you know,

933
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: if you lose your first round pick if he gets hurt,

934
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: that's bad. But instead of thinking about it from with CMC,

935
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: from his perspective of like Christian McCaffrey, he could get

936
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: hurt and therefore he's a bad pick, think about the

937
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: delta between Christian McCaffrey getting hurt and in those chances

938
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: to another alternative in that round, and then you realize

939
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: that delta it shrinks. It's not nearly as catastrophic as

940
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: you think that it is. And that's why I have

941
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: him at RB three. But I will say right now

942
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: I would have him in a separate tier compared to

943
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: Bijon Robinson and Ejameer Gibbs.

944
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Can't wait for the Jordan James of next season. He

945
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: looks great in garbage time. Looked great in garbage time.

946
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: So there you go. Okay. Jonathan Taylor comes in at

947
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: number four.

948
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: Yeah again I actually think that running back like it's

949
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: really really flat after you get out of the top two.

950
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: Maybe you throw CMC in there, but like I say

951
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: flat as in, like there's just a lot of running

952
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: backs we can choose from, which plays into what I

953
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: talked about on Tuesday's episode this week on the increase

954
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: in twelve personnel, And you know, running backs are getting

955
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: more work on the ground. It's been a more run

956
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: heavy approach across the league and that's definitely allowing more

957
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: running backs to be elevant at a higher level than before.

958
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: And so Jonathan Taylor, you know, this isn't the archetype

959
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: of running back that I am in love with because

960
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: he's max out in the eleven percent target share throughout

961
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: his career, which isn't you know, it's fine, but it's

962
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: not elite.

963
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: But we know that he is an elite runner.

964
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's got that like Nick Chubb and him,

965
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: where he can consistently kind of break the mold of

966
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: being an overly efficient running back year over year. But

967
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the Colts, like there's quarterback

968
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: question marks because of the Achilles with Daniel Jones. But

969
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, Jonathan Taylor being on the roster.

970
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: We know he's you know, being healthy and active. He's

971
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of work. He's He's been at

972
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: almost an eighty percent running back rush chair per season

973
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: over his last five years, which.

974
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: Is crazy, So you know, the volume should be there.

975
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: I do think that we should be a little bit

976
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: worried about some regression from like an offensive standpoint, just

977
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: because we don't know what's going on at quarterback. That

978
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: scares me a little bit, especially the goal line. He

979
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: had twenty three goal line rushes last year, which was

980
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: the second most of his career. Or sorry, that was

981
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: the most of his career. I said, twenty three goal

982
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: line attemts last year, we're a season high. That's really

983
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: terrible note taking that doesn't make any sense. I think

984
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: it was the second most goal line attempts that he's

985
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: had throughout his career. It just you need that offense

986
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: to be good enough for him to be sustainable in fantasy.

987
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: And we saw that down the stretch, right Like the

988
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: offense became a lot shakier and then Jonathan Taylor's fantasy

989
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: output became a lot shakier. That's what happens when you

990
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: don't have a receiving back in the backfield in like

991
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: a half or full PPR format.

992
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: So I think he's good.

993
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: I think he's solid, but I'm not gonna take him

994
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: in like the top six of fantasy drafts next year

995
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: at this point, like right now here in January.

996
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: All right, So at number five you got mister a Chan.

997
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, look, you you could put a

998
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: Chan at three realistically, like if you're bullish about what

999
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: could happen in that offense. But there is some concern.

1000
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's a new coaching staff. We don't know

1001
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: how a Chan's gonna be deployed. He has had fifteen

1002
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: to nineteen percent target chairs over his last two so

1003
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: that PPR floor hypothetically should be there, but only five

1004
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: rushes at the goal line last year. Like that's that's

1005
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: a problem, because what happens if a coach comes in

1006
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: and says, we don't want to use you, know, we

1007
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: want to have you in a tandem because you're a

1008
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: smaller running back. One of the amazing parts of Mike

1009
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: McDaniel was that he said devon Ah Chang can be

1010
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: sub one ninety at the combine and maybe sub one

1011
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: ninety five in the NFL and sub two hundred, and

1012
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: I'll still use him as a as a borderline belcal

1013
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: back because I think he's really good.

1014
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: Not all coaches have that mentality, and.

1015
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: That's what's scary in my opinion for Devon h Chan

1016
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff.

1017
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: But he look unbelievably explosive.

1018
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: He had the most ten plus yards in the NFL

1019
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: this past ten plus yard runs in the NFL this

1020
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: past year. One of thirteen running backs in is twenty

1021
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: eleven with two hundred more carries and a sixteen percent

1022
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: ten plus yard run rate, which is awesome.

1023
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: But but also like, we don't know who's playing quarterback

1024
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: for Miami. That's another problem there for the Dolphins.

1025
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, like I think a chance, fine,

1026
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of question marks.

1027
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Amy's definitely got the talent.

1028
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, I love I mean, I I love Yeah.

1029
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: He's he going to be in when they're down by

1030
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: three touchdowns? Maybe not, you know with this new coach.

1031
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: All right, James Cook comes in at number six, and

1032
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 2: again they don't have bad coach either.

1033
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: I actually think that the coaching could be okay for Cook,

1034
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: mostly because we need to we need to see him

1035
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: be used more as a receiver. He still has yet

1036
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: he's maxed out in a nine point nine percent target

1037
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: year in a given season. When he entered the NFL

1038
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: as sort of like a receiving specialist, like that's what

1039
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: we thought he was gonna do. This past year, though,

1040
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: he saw a lot of work on the ground, and

1041
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of the way that the Buffalo Bills ran

1042
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: their offense with Joe Brady a lot of runs. You know,

1043
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: sub fifty percent pass rate last year is fifty two

1044
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: percent the year prior. So my thing is, like, what

1045
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: if a coach comes in and they want to feature

1046
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: James Cook Moore as a receiver, like that could be

1047
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: really good from a fantasy perspective, and for a second

1048
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: straight year, all of his peripherals look great. Like I

1049
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: think James Cook is an elite running back in this league,

1050
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: very very good, and hopefully the next coaching staff sees

1051
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: that too.

1052
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: Like I think realistically, if.

1053
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: The right match occurs for Buffalo and James Cook, he

1054
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: could just be bumped ahead of some of the guys

1055
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: ahead of him right now.

1056
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: Okay, this is one I'm excited about. Number seven. Marian Hampton, Yeah,

1057
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: I think that he's gonna get steamed up. Man, he

1058
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: is gonna, like everyone's gonna be in more than like Hampton.

1059
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: But you look at you look at the remaining running

1060
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: backs and you're like, you know, you could throw an

1061
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: established guy in here, like a Josh Jacobs or like

1062
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: a Saquon or something like that. But to me, you

1063
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: get Slater and Alt hopefully back in twenty twenty six.

1064
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: There's no more Greg Roman. And for the record, I

1065
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: wrote about this all off season last year. Greg Roman

1066
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: is not good for fantasy running backs generally speaking. He

1067
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: still has not had a single season in his career

1068
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: as a coordinator where his running backs ranked in the

1069
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: top ten as a team and PPR points. Now, part

1070
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: of that is the target share stuff I discussed et cetera.

1071
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: Hampton to me was a pretty decent, well rounded back.

1072
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: There's red flags who was receiving profile that I saw,

1073
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: Like his yards perole run was was solid enough. This

1074
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: past year was over one yard. You know, he had

1075
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: a twelve percent target year when he did play. Uh

1076
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: and then you know I I did write all that too,

1077
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: and and UH looked at all that data before they

1078
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: had gotten Mike McDaniel which I don't think is even

1079
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: official official yet, but we're just assuming it is. Yeah,

1080
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how Hampton's gonna fit his own

1081
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: run scheme the way that Mike McDaniel runs things. Uh.

1082
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: And if you look at Fantasy Points data, he was

1083
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: a lot better and more man on more man runs

1084
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: than than zone runs last year Marion Hampton was. But

1085
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, he's really good. And I think that La

1086
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: is going to use a lot more motion and it's

1087
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: going to help the offensive line even more. You know,

1088
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: the Chargers with Greg Roman were below average last year

1089
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: and their in their use of motion, which is kind

1090
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: of crazy given the kinds of wide receivers they had

1091
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: on that team that could go inside out and they

1092
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: didn't really you know, take advantage of that. So I'm

1093
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: excited for Marion and hand in this offense, especially because

1094
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: Nage Harris, Like, I don't even know what's gonna like

1095
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be a thing next year for them. Uh,

1096
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, I know his deal was short anyway, but

1097
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, what kind of competition are they gonna Like,

1098
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna be fine with Hampton and Vitel and

1099
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: if that's the case, I don't think that's terrible competition

1100
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: for Mario and Hampton. To get volume.

1101
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: Number eight, you get Ashton Jentti. Who's gonna we are

1102
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: pretty sure we know who his quarterback is. We don't

1103
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: know who his head coach offense coordinator is gonna be.

1104
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe. I mean I don't know exactly

1105
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: what's going on a quarterback for them. We'll see if they.

1106
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: Don't get Mendoza. Well, yeah, did you watch that game?

1107
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: By the way, what the National Championship?

1108
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course. Okay, so there are some fantasy

1109
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: analysts that that did not So what.

1110
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: Would I have not watched that?

1111
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, that that performance was awesome,

1112
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: that that he's one of.

1113
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: Those like that you gotta be a little fearful of,

1114
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Like is he does he have the tools, but he's

1115
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: got the tangibles for sure? Yeah for sure. But yeah,

1116
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: like it was a it was kind of a problematic

1117
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: first season for ash and gent He had zero point

1118
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: six four yards before contact according to PFF data. That

1119
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: was second worst among two hundred plus attempt rushers. It

1120
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: was only better than Quinn Shawn Judkins last year. And

1121
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: so you know he didn't get a lot of help

1122
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: from the offense itself.

1123
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 3: I still thought that he looked good and like when

1124
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: he did get.

1125
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: Those opportunities, and he started to be used as a

1126
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: receiver more towards the end of the season, which was

1127
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: really helpful from a fantasy perspective, but also an evaluation standpoint.

1128
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: We know he can be a three down back. He

1129
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: was an elite prospect.

1130
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: He looks great in the even the updated zat model

1131
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: that I've worked on, he looks amazing. He's one of

1132
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: the best in that model. You know, if you look

1133
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: at there's a new category. Speaking of that model, there's

1134
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: a new category that I created called Legendary performer, where

1135
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: only the best, the best prospects land in that bucket.

1136
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: Ash and gent landed in that bucket. The other seven

1137
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: running backs to get to that mark their best season

1138
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: of their earth their worst season. Sorry, they had a

1139
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: best season in their first three at worst Okay of

1140
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: seventeen PPR points.

1141
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: It's very hard to like that. We say best and

1142
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: worse in the same since.

1143
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: Yes, it's hard. Yeah, So if you look at their

1144
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: first three seasons in the NFL, their best season at

1145
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: worst among those seven was Trent Richardson, who was a

1146
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: legendary performer. Yes, it's probably a model l but he

1147
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 1: was fine his rookie season.

1148
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: He scored sixteen point nine to nine PPR points per game.

1149
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: That's the worst. That's the absolute bottom.

1150
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm predicting that we're going to see a

1151
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: better season from Ash and gent in one of these

1152
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: next couple of seasons, just based on the app model itself.

1153
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: All right, number nine, I want to know your thought

1154
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: process on this guy, Like it was it hard to

1155
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 2: do because it's Chase Brown.

1156
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, kinda, But it's one of those things where right

1157
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: now in January, there's so much that's unchanged in Cincinnati.

1158
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, the coaching staff looks generally the same. Dan

1159
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Pitcher might might be able to get an O C

1160
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: job because he's not he doesn't call play is in Cincinnati,

1161
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: and he might get that opportunity somewhere else.

1162
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: So if he goes, they expect Callahan to come back to.

1163
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Him, then that's fine too. Yeah yeah, so so but

1164
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: with Chase Brown, like I mean, bottom line is, they

1165
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of holes to fill and it might

1166
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: just be another year where they don't really address the

1167
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: running back position early on in the draft, and I

1168
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: thought Brown. It's kind of wild, the narrative around Brown

1169
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: and fantasy. Yeah, because of the first few weeks of

1170
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: the season, he was a great fantasy asset, like with

1171
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow last year. Now, there's a lot of factors

1172
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: that play into this. You know, samaj p Ryan being hurt.

1173
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: There were it wasn't just Flacco and Burrow. You know,

1174
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: you had Jake Browning as well in there. But regardless

1175
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: out of the split. So not with Joe Burrow, he

1176
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: averaged fourteen one point one PPR points per game, which

1177
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: is not that bad. It's not great, but it's not terrible.

1178
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: Nineteen point four PPR points per game with Joe Burrow.

1179
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of upside with Chase Brown, especially

1180
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: if they don't do anything in the draft or free

1181
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: agency and such. And I don't think they need to,

1182
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, it's a good environment. Hopefully

1183
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: they upgrade that offensive line. That's obviously one of their

1184
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: biggest issues. That's their biggest issue on offense. But yeah,

1185
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: I have Chase Brown a number nine. I think that

1186
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: it's a very defensible ranking for him. I could argue

1187
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: he can go higher yeah, I could argue him at

1188
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: seven or six.

1189
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean he was going right there with

1190
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: a chand before last season bs Persas, I think we've

1191
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: been saying they should upgrade the aligned for about six

1192
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: years now. They need to try to protect their assets.

1193
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: They've tried a little bit. It's just it hasn't come together.

1194
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: Yet, all right. And then number ten, we've got Josh

1195
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: Jacobs to round out this list.

1196
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: I think that this is where you kind of could

1197
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: throw any of the veteran backs in their Saquan, Derrick, Henry, whoever.

1198
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: But with Jacobs, he's just of those other guys, He's

1199
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: in the most secure environment right now.

1200
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: Say what you want about Matt Lafleur his teams.

1201
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 1: In his seven years of coaching that offense and that team,

1202
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: they've ranked the top half of the league in touchdowns

1203
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: per game every single year, which is pretty impressive. We

1204
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: know the offensive environment should be pretty good for Jacob.

1205
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: He was banged up this past year, he still saw

1206
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: a seventy three percent running back rush are So I'm

1207
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: gonna go Jacobs in the ten spot, But I could

1208
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: argue maybe a Saquon because hopefully there's an offensive upgrade

1209
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: from a coaching standpoint there, you know, maybe Derrick Henry

1210
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: because obviously he hasn't slowed down yet and there could

1211
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: be even an upgrade there.

1212
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: But I think Jacobs is just the safest bed at

1213
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: this point.

1214
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting that you leave off the guy who helped

1215
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: win you twenty thousand dollars on DraftKings.

1216
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, I'll forever love Derrick Henry.

1217
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying he may maybe just put him

1218
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: as an honorable mention. Geez, all right, good stuff. I

1219
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: mean that's a solid that's a solid list right there,

1220
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: and we know that we're not going to hold you.

1221
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: This one's not. I feel like this one shouldn't be

1222
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: that controversial the way that the way that I put this,

1223
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Like maybe do you think people are gonna be mad

1224
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: that like Chase Brown's on there?

1225
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: No again, because I think Chase Brown with Burrow could

1226
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: go even higher, Like I mean, I agree, Yeah, it

1227
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: just it just depends on what that on what the

1228
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: play calling is going to be there. I think it's

1229
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a solid, solid list. People might get

1230
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: upset with no Saquon.

1231
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know.

1232
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: Sequon burn people so much this year that they're probably

1233
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: over it.

1234
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just needed a rest here, all right? All right,

1235
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: the reminder to subscribe, like comment on this show if

1236
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: if you would Late Round newsletter. We had another newsletter today,

1237
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: Uh come out, so it's it's newsletter seasoning the other

1238
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: newsletter on Friday. J.

1239
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say, Godula is doing a

1240
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: lot of like research and studies on stuff and it's

1241
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: been great.

1242
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1243
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: And today's was awesome about you know, the playoffs and

1244
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: and basically like, is our our players who play a

1245
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: lot and go on these long runs in the playoffs,

1246
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: is that bad for their games played the following season?

1247
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: Like is there a higher injury risk? And what's it

1248
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: mean for them from a fantasy perspective? And so just

1249
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: get used to that awesome kind of research because Goodula

1250
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be sending a lot of newsletters out this offseason.

1251
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of awesome, if you don't do one thing, I

1252
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: don't know if this got enough love yesterday, but if

1253
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: you don't do one thing, would just say, uh, if

1254
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: you only do one thing, listen to yesterday's episode of

1255
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: the Late Round podcast, the Death of the Wide Receiver too.

1256
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: That was a good episode.

1257
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: JJ.

1258
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: Good job by you, pal.

1259
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, all right, final words, JJ, No,

1260
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: let's let's hope for power to stick around. For me,

1261
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: is getting as much content next week? Just pay attention

1262
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: to my twitter feed. I'll let you guys know if

1263
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: we lost power all that kind of stuff.

1264
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully won't be that bad. Uh JJ appreciate it

1265
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: and appreciate everyone that chimed in, and without further ado,

1266
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: we'll see you next time here on the late round

1267
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: fantasy football show piece.

1268
00:58:51,320 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: All right, and where go