1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm John Tucker and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: And Karen, we're going to have more in the market 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: since we close out twenty twenty five in just a minute. 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 3: But first, the covid Era subsidies that help Americans pay 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: for Obamacare health plans expire today. It's going to result 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: in more than twenty million Americans paying higher premiums next month. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 4: Now. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: Democrats have trying to extend the additional support beyond the 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: December deadline, but Republicans of balk citing the cost of 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: some three hundred and fifty billion dollars over the next decade, 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: let's get more from Bloomberg opinion columnists go to Macunda. 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 5: If premiums skyrocket the way that it looks they are doing, 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 5: and it looks like they're going to that is a 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 5: political disaster for the Republican Party, which owns the issue. 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 5: In that way, they're asking Democrats, but to fix it, 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 5: almost all the votes will be Democrats. The policy incentives 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 5: which are to fix the problem, and the political incentives 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 5: which are for Democrats to say, hey, guys, congratulations like 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 5: you own this. Those running completely opposite directions, and the 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: closer we get to the midterms, the more the political 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 5: incentives are going to swamp the policy ones and Boe. 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: Of their opinions. Gouda Mkunda. Meantime, a handful of House 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: Republicans they have joined Democrats and a maneuver that will 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: put a three year extension of these subsidies to a 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: vote next month. 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: Let's head overseas now, John, where Russia and Ukraine struck 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: each other's black seaports overnight, damaging infrastructure including an oil 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: refinery Delida. Salvo comes after Russian President Vladimir Putin said 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: he would revise his country's negotiating position to end the war, 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: claiming Ukrainian drones targeted his residence. Former US Ambassador to Ukraine, 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: Stephen Piper says the Russian president is attempting to stall 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: peace plans. 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 6: Putin is clearly trying to derail the progress that appears 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 6: to be being made in conversations between Americans, Ukrainians, and Europeans, 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 6: and it's unfortunate that President Trump took Putin's word at 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 6: face value. 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: Former US Ambassador Stephen pie for Russia invaded Ukraine in 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: And let's turn to the latest developments in the Mid East. 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: Israeli Prime Minister netna who says Iran should he need 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: President Trump's warning about not restarting its nuclear program. Netnya, 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: who spoke yesterday with Fox News. 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: As far as the nuclear program, I think they're trying 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: to do it. I'm not sure they've decided to cross 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 4: the line because because I think they heed President Trump's warnings, 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: and also because they've just experienced something, you know, less 49 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: than a year ago. They saw what it what it entails, 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 4: and they have to choose. Look, we don't seek escalation. 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: I hope they don't. 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminetya, who also says he is aligned 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 3: with President Trump on wanting to give the new Syrian 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: government a. 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: Chance, and Asia John President Chieshin Ping said Shino to 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: meet its economic targets for twenty twenty five, with growth 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: expected to reach about five percent. Addressing the country's top 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: political advisory body on New Year's Eve, she said the 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: economy has demonstrated resilience despite challenges. 60 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's turn to the markets, where twenty twenty five 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 3: has been another profitable one for the bulls stocks ending 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: a third year at double digit gains. In fact, global 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: stocks poised for their biggest annual gain in six years. 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: Lonzo Munyas is the chief investment officer at Hamilton Capital Partners. 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 7: I think we have to be seguin about the fact 66 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 7: that there may be some volatility next year. We have 67 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 7: some big catalysts that we're looking forward to, like FED policy, 68 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 7: fed ray cuts. Maybe we're looking at the Supreme Court 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 7: and what they do with tariffs. I think that's a 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 7: big deal, and so I think we're going to be, 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 7: you know, really open to next year. We're keeping a 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 7: little bit of cash on hand, but we're going to 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 7: stay on the AI trade. I think that's what we're 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 7: going to do going into next year. 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: Hamilton Partners, Alonzo Bunyaz. So far this year, the MSCI 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: All Country World Index, that's one of the broadest measures 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: of the equity market, that's gained twenty one one percent. 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's also been a good run in twenty twenty 79 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: five for precious metals, john although they are ending the 80 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: year on a whimper. Silver is down about five and 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: a half percent today, and we get more and the 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: reasons behind the move with Bloomberg Markets reporter Valerie title. 83 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 8: Interesting, we had another margin requirement hike from the CME, 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 8: which I think is taking again those leverage speculators out 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 8: of the market, and that's why we're seeing silver plummet 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 8: again today. They do this on the back of very 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 8: volatile trading days to make sure that everyone trading does 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 8: have enough margin enough to post against their wins and 89 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 8: their losses. So not unusual to see this from the 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 8: CME that they do this twice in the row on 91 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 8: the back of all of this volatility in the silver market, 92 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 8: but it is definitely taking some speculators out of the space. 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg Markets reporter Valerie Titele says, despite today's losses, 94 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: silver is up more than one hundred and forty five 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: percent this year. Gold, which is also lower TI today, 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: is at more than fifty percent in twenty twenty five, 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: and oil is. 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Heading for its steepest annual loss since the start of 99 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: the pandemic in twenty twenty. Crew tos slump this year 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: as supplies swelled from OPEC plants and its rivals, what 101 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: demand growth slowed oil, which is down eighteen percent this year. 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: Right now, let's do WTI American Crew fifty seven to 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: ninety nine at barrel. That's up just three cents a barrel. 104 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: This morning, Well, John, we have new developments this morning 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: and the takeover battle for Warner Brothers Discovery. Bloomberg News 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: has learned the media company is planning to reject a 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: takeover bid from Paramount after the company amanded the terms 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: of its offer. Paramount went public with its thirty dollars 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: a share cash bid earlier this month, three days after 110 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: Warner had accepted a deal with Netflix. Bloomberg's Lucas Shaw says, 111 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: the deal will come down to the numbers. 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 9: Money's the biggest thing they know. The Paramount offer and 113 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 9: the Netflix offer are fairly comparable. A lot of it 114 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 9: depends on how much of value you assigned to the 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 9: cable networks Warner brother zones that's CNNTNT among many others. 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 9: Warner Brothers things starre worth more than Paramount, hence the disagreement. 117 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: Bloombergs Lucas Shaw says since its initial bid, Paramount has 118 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: amended its offer twice, most recently by including an assurance 119 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: from billionaire Larry Ellison that he would personally guarantee over 120 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: forty billion dollars in equity financing and other commitments. 121 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: And let's turn through the economy. This where the latest 122 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: Fed mini show officials saw additional rate cuts appropriate so 123 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: long as inflation declines over time. The minutes of the 124 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: December meeting pointed to the difficulty that policymakers faced in 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: their most recent decision, which modestly reinforces expectations the Fed 126 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: will hold rates unchanged when they meet again in January. 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: Well, John, those Fed officials and investors, We'll get one 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: final piece of key data as we close out the year. 129 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: This morning, we get weekly jobless claims, and Bloomberg's Tom 130 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: Busby has a preview. 131 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 10: The holidays are always a volatile time per unemployment claims, 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 10: and after the number of Americans filing first time applications 133 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 10: for jobless benefits unexpectedly declined for the previous two weeks 134 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 10: in a row, that is expected to change. Bloomberg consensus 135 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 10: calls for two hundred and nineteen thousand initial claims last week, 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 10: up by five thousand from the week prior, still though 137 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 10: in an historically low range. Tom Buzzby Bloomberg Radio. 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: Time Now for a look at some of the other 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: stories making news in New York and around the world. 140 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, 141 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: good Morning. 142 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 11: Good morning, Karen. New York City officials are getting ready 143 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 11: to welcome people to Times Square to watch the ball 144 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 11: drop to ring in the new year. Officials want to 145 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 11: make sure the event is safe and celebratory. Police Commissioner 146 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 11: Jessica Tish explains an additional layer of security. 147 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 8: And once inside a viewing area, there will be no 148 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 8: re entry and they may be subject to re screening. 149 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 11: Over a million people are expected to watch the new 150 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 11: sparkly ball drop to welcome twenty twenty six. Immigration officials 151 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 11: do not plan to detain Kilmar Abrego Garcia again as 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 11: long as the judge's order banning it stands. That's according 153 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 11: to a court filing from the US government, the salvador 154 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 11: and migrant in his fighting to remain in the US 155 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 11: after a mistaken deportation to his home country, where he 156 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 11: was imprisoned. Yesterday, a newly unsealed order in the criminal 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 11: case against Abrago Garcia revealed that high level Justice Department 158 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 11: officials pushed for his indictment, including Acting US Attorney for 159 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 11: Middle Tennessee Robert McGuire. Tatiana Slosburg, one of three grandchildren 160 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 11: of the late President John F. Kennedy, has died after 161 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 11: a battle with leukemia. It was just last month that 162 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 11: Schlosberg revealed in a New Yorker essay that she had 163 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 11: terminal cancer. Schlosburg, the daughter of Caroline Kennedy, was thirty five. 164 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 11: A surge of Arctic air brought strong winds, heavy snow, 165 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 11: and frigid temperatures to the Great Lakes and Northeast a 166 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 11: day after a bomb cyclone that hit the northern US, 167 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 11: and we're learning how strong the wind was in western 168 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 11: New York. Those wind gusts, blowing at over seventy miles 169 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 11: per hour, actually lifted seventy one year old Diane Miller 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 11: off her feet. Miller, who lives off the shore of 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 11: Lake Heree, had grasped the door handle of her daughter's 172 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 11: Lackawana home on her way in, but was pulled off 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 11: the wind. 174 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 8: Gus must have popt the screen door and then I 175 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 8: went into the bushes and onto the ground. 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 11: Fortunately she's okay. Global News twenty four hours a day 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 11: and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News Now, 178 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 11: Michael Barr and this is Bloomberg. Karen. 179 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Thanks Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and 180 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: for that we bring in Dan Schwartzman. 181 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 11: Patriots star receivers to Potten. 182 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 12: Diggs is facing a felony charges trangulation as well as 183 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 12: a misdemeanor charge of assault for an incident that allegedly 184 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 12: occurred back on December second. Diggs will be arranged on 185 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 12: January twenty third, which is the Friday before the AFC 186 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 12: Championship Game. Meanwhile, Diggs's brother, Cowboys two TI I'm Pro 187 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 12: Bowl cornerback Trayvon Diggs, was released by Dallas for what's 188 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 12: being called a culmination of issues. The quarterfinals of the 189 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 12: college football playoffs getting underway as the two seed Ohio 190 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 12: State battles to ten seed Miami and the Good of 191 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 12: Your Cotton Bolt Classic in Arlington, Texas. Light schedule in 192 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 12: the NBA, the Celtics knocking off the Jazz one twenty 193 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 12: nine to one nineteen. The seventy six ers is getting 194 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 12: past the Grizzlies in overtime one thirty nine to one 195 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 12: thirty six. Piston's dominating the Lakers in LA one twenty 196 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 12: eight twenty oh six, while the Clippers beat up on 197 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 12: the Kings one thirty one to ninety. That's your Bloomberg 198 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 12: Sports Update. 199 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 200 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: after this. 201 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 202 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 203 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 204 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: Dad is now five thirteen in the hob Wall Street Book. 205 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 11: Morning. 206 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: I'm John Tucker. These subsidies that help Americans pay for 207 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 3: Obamacare health plans, they expire today, going to result in 208 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: more than twenty million Americans paying higher premiums starting next month. 209 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: Just one of the stories we're following as twenty twenty 210 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: five comes to an end. And for a look back 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,479 Speaker 3: what's ahead, how the political landscape will inform the investment landscape, 212 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: let's bring in Terry Haines, founder at panje at Policy. 213 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: Happy New Year to you, Terry. Thanks so much for 214 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: being with us and for being with us for the 215 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: entire year. For your insight from where you sit as 216 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: a political observer, Can you tell us what were the 217 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: big takeaways for the year and maybe what's next. 218 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 13: Good morning, John, and happy new year to you and 219 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 13: everybody on daybreak. Thank you for having me. You know, 220 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 13: I think the takeaways are that, overall over everything is 221 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 13: that there's been very strong direction from Washington that helps 222 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 13: markets understand exactly what the investment priorities are and where 223 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 13: things are likely to go, whether they be on what 224 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 13: I've been calling for some time, the Trump interdependence, foreign 225 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 13: economic policy that helps trade deals and all the rest, 226 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 13: the direction on tariffs, even the private sector response mobilizing, 227 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 13: mobilizing for geopolitical competition for years to come. I'm thinking 228 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 13: of the thing that Jamie Diamond's doing, kind of a 229 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 13: brains trust idea. All those things are positive from Washington 230 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 13: for markets, although there are some, of course, some negatives 231 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 13: as well. 232 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, the major market averages, they ramp up with double 233 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: digit gains. I mean, we're on track, certainly. But as 234 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: one of our market guests this morning points out in 235 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: a note, most market participants come from the upper earning 236 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: end of the spectrum. How does that inform the politics 237 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: and trends from voters we may see in the month 238 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: and years they had, particularly the next generation. 239 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 13: Well, it depends on what kind of investors you're talking about. 240 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 13: You know, you talk to a lot of a lot 241 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 13: of members, a lot of members and senators approach markets 242 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 13: issues from the perspective that more than half of Americans, 243 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 13: well more than half of Americans are invested in the markets, 244 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 13: rely on markets for their retirement, you know, are kind 245 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 13: of basic. They're not the blue chip investors. They're they're 246 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 13: you know, kind of basic folks that are looking for 247 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 13: the markets to generate returns and provide them with additional 248 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 13: retirement security. So they they come at it from a 249 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 13: very much more mainstream perspective, and I've been I'm not 250 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 13: thinking about this as a Republican versus Democratic issue at all. 251 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 13: They look at it as a mainstream perspective, and they 252 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 13: want main for main streets benefit to make sure that 253 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 13: the markets remain healthy. 254 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: Now, as we mentioned, the subsidies are ending today, a 255 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: handful of House Republicans did join the Democrats. This is 256 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 3: a maneuver that will put the three year extension of 257 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: the subsidies to a vote for next month. Is this 258 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: one of the big issues for the midterms. 259 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 13: I think it is a big issue for the midterms, 260 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 13: But I also think people, you know, I think the 261 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 13: people drink political kool aid when they make this a 262 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 13: situation where it's about subsidies versus no subsidies. I think 263 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 13: what you're likely to see is a situation where, you know, 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 13: as you point out, subsidies expire starting tomorrow. But you 265 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 13: will see a lot of effort in the winter, in 266 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 13: maybe even into the spring to the battle between trying 267 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 13: to keep the subsidies in place versus replacing the subsidies 268 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 13: with some sort of alternative tax favored account, whether it 269 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 13: be an HSA, whether it be a you know, health 270 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 13: freedom account, as the President has talked about, you know, 271 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 13: and the Congress has got at least two by that 272 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 13: Apple one is at the end by the end of January, 273 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 13: when the government funding runs out and bipartisan consensus is 274 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 13: required to keep it going, so a solution could be there, 275 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 13: or in what's known as now being known as the 276 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 13: Big Beautiful Bill two dot oh, where that'll be an 277 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 13: all Republican tax solution that could include a different solution 278 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 13: as well. 279 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories 280 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 281 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 282 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else. 283 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: You listen You can also listen live each morning starting 284 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: at five am Wall Street Time on Bloomberg eleven three 285 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: to zero in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to 286 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: one in Washington, Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and 287 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: nationwide on serious XM Channel one twenty one. 288 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app 289 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: now with Applecarplay and Android auto interfaces. 290 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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