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It but we took some. 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: Questions the majority of our questions came from our, discord 36 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: and if you're not in our, DISCORD i highly recommend. 37 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: It it's like the best baseball conversation you could possibly 38 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: have the link to join our discord is in the episode. 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: Description we also pulled questions From instagram AND. X this 40 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: is a fun. One it's loaded. Up we got to 41 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: talk about a debut at the. Outset but how are you? Doing? Man? 42 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: Good i'm doing. 43 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: Good it's. 44 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: Funny I'm I'M i think jinxing players right. Now AND 45 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: i don't believe in the broadcaster jinks but or the podcaster. 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: Jinks but the last quote card. 47 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 4: We we sent out Was Paul skin's command looks as 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: like ridiculous as. Ever he's about to go on a. 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: Tear and then he walked three in a row and. 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: Anying then he gave up three home. Runs they were 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: all solo shots and he, maneuvered but that was. Fine 52 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: and Then Chase. Petty i'm all excited previewing his debut 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 4: and just some of the adjustments and improvements he made 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: going into this, year and he got blasted by The. 55 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: Cardinals it's tough, game. MAN i Think petty's gonna be 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: a good pitcher for a long, time but tough timing. 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: There and then the guy we've been talking about all 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: off season That i've been so excited about in terms 59 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: of the depth that he provides to The. Royals Noah, 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: cameron we omit that from the last, episode and he 61 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: proceeds to go six and a third of one hit 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: ball for The. Royals So i'm off my game right. 63 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: Now i'm trying to walk back in. Here but it 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: was awesome to See Noah cameron do his thing for The. 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: Royals WHO i, mean they're pitching situations, again another reason 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: WHY i was believing. THEM i didn't think the offense 67 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: would be this, bad but the rotation that they presently, 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: have and then having a guy Like Noah cameron ready 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: in the, WINGS i think we saw what he's capable. 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: Of just as good of a plug and play guy 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: is as you can have. 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Man and you, know it was a 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: weird debut For Noah, Cameron like what IF i told 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: you he went six and a third of one hit 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: ball and his whip was close to. One, okay why 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: does that happen for a guy that was pounding the 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: strike zone in the minor? Leagues, well he walked five 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: in his debut and six and the, third but nobody 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: was hitting him And Noah cameron five starts with triple A. 80 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: Omaha twenty two and a third, innings he struck out 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: twenty seven and walked. Eight he had a three two TWO, 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: era and this guy was one of the best pitching 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: well pitching prospects in The royal system last year number, 84 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: one but in The American league two one hundred and 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: twenty eight and two thirds innings at a three point 86 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: EIGHT era last year between sixteen starts In DOUBLE a 87 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: and nine starts In TRIPLE, a and to end the 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: year last year In TRIPLE a he was nails nine 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: starts two point three TWO era and in fifty four 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: to third, innings not only did he only allow forty four, 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: hits but he punched out sixty two and walked. Eleven 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: Noah cameron is a guy that not a lot of 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: people were aware of when it came to pitching prospects 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: and A macro understandably, So Chase petty got a lot 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: of the love On wednesday when it came to a. 96 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: Debut Noah cameron's was number, one Better number. Two probably 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: a guy that should be viewed in a similar light 98 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: To Chase petty at this. 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: Point, yeah two totally different, pitchers and, yeah Sure petty 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: has a higher, ceiling but in terms of. VALUE i 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: think the floor with where it is With, cameron you 102 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: could say that these two guys are not too far 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: off from each. Other petty's a top one hundred, guy 104 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: But cameron was number six in Our royals rankings in that, 105 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: system and it's not a bad system at. All the 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: shift for him, too he went from potential depth arm 107 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: to solid back end starter when his fastball jumped. 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: From ninety one to ninety two point. 109 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: Five he also got much more ride on it as, 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 4: well was able to eliminate some horizontal, actions so that 111 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: made the fastball at least play like an average. Pitch 112 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: and then he's always had the good, secondaries but all 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: of those ticked up a little bit. Too so you 114 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: have this plus change up which was really looking good 115 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: in that big league, debut a cutter that he added 116 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: that looks like it can be in above average, pitch 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: and then he's got the curve ball as. Well so 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: your fastball ticks up and you add a, cutter you're 119 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: probably gonna find some, success especially when you have above average. 120 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: Command AND i Think cameron is a perfect inning zeting 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: type of lefty that you know hole get his. RUN 122 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: i think for, now because the rotation is pretty. Full 123 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be when. Needed BUT i think 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: this is a guy that you're looking, at especially just 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: going in a next year and beyond that can be 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: that inning zeting left handed pitcher for you that just 127 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 4: consistently can give you solid. 128 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: Outings and, man he's kind of a prototype of what 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: you want in a number five star Or, okay he's left. Handed, 130 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: okay there's a bunch of different. Pitches he's six, three two. 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: Twenty he looks the, part he looks, durable he pitches, 132 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: clean the mechanics are easy and free. Flowing there's a 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: lot to like With Noah. Cameron and you're, right like 134 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: the offense For Kansas city needs to get their tail 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: ends in. Gear but at the end of the, day 136 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: they're pitching can help get them. There And bobby Wit 137 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: junior is Still bobby Wit. Junior so you have a 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: couple of offensive pieces step. Up, Listen Kansas city got 139 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: the got to The American League Division series last year 140 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: because Of Bobby witten. Pitching who's to say they can't 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: do it? 142 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: Again, absolutely And i'd imagine that this time around they'll 143 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: address the offense come come deadline time and trying to 144 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: make some moves that way as. 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Tea, conversely who are some personal favorites 220 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: of yours that the aesthetic outmatches the. Production i'm gonna 221 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: pencil in Mikel garcia for, You. Peter that was a 222 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: great shot On, Discord BUT i have been kind of 223 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: vocal about, that Like, munsey AND i Know munsey just 224 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: hit his first homer of the year against The marlins 225 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: actually On, wednesday and it was a. Shot it was 226 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty three feet dead. Center it was. 227 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: Great that's what months he can. Do And munsey has 228 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: been an eight to fifty ops car over the last few. 229 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Years but my thing About munsi is when the going is, 230 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: tough the only endearing quality about his game is he 231 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: sees a bunch of. Pitches, yeah and he's just a 232 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: pain and a pitcher's rear. In And i'm, like, OKAY 233 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: i don't. Know it's it's not the most fun brand 234 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: of baseball to watch for. Me snell is the pitching 235 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: equivalent where, okay he's going to strike out, Ten, okay 236 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: he's going to be An All, star but he's also 237 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: walking more people than anybody in The National league when 238 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: he won That Cy young With San. Diego and he's 239 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: not pitching into the eighth, inning and he knew. That 240 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: as soon as he threw his no. Hitter his post 241 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: game he let. Loose it was, like look at me 242 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: throwing the ninth. Inning guess who hasn't done it? Since 243 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean it's it's not that typical 244 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: prototype of the things THAT i like, seeing where it 245 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: slapped the ball around the, ballpark hit it out of 246 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: the ballpark, occasionally but just be a really athletic hitter 247 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: and defender and then, PITCHERS i see so much value 248 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: in pitching into the seventh and eighth, inning and, like 249 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: we just don't get that From. Snell so do you 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: have anybody that kind of jumps out like? 251 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: That, man you're just born in the wrong. Generation. 252 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: Huh, yeah, yeah, YEAH i was born thirty years too. Late. 253 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: HUH i need to See carlton throw on every every fourth. Day, 254 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: yep the. 255 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: One hundred and forty. 256 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: Pitches, Now i'm with, you, though there are times, where, 257 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: like you, KNOW i like to watch a good, sequence you, 258 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: know of a pitcher setting up pitches with something, else 259 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: and you, know there is something to be said about 260 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: just being so nasty that you can just kind of 261 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: go with whatever works and miss badly with two, pitches 262 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: then walk back in and make a guy miss with 263 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: three different ones after. That but there is something about 264 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: sequencing and layering things and making, it you, know a 265 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: really satisfying. Watch AND i don't know If snell often does, 266 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: that SO i can hear that. 267 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: ONE i. 268 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: DON'T i try to think about it in terms, of 269 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 4: LIKE i don't get as as like bothered by specific play, 270 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: types although AND i know this might not be. POPULAR 271 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 4: i KNOW i mentioned it O'Neil cruz when he connects 272 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: is so fun to, watch but he's a pretty frustrating 273 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: watch at bats, wise LIKE i don't there's times where 274 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: guys that take the same swings at the same pitches 275 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: over and over and over again can get kind of. 276 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: Frustrating Ezekiel tovar is kind of the same. Thing i've 277 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 4: always loved him as a. PROSPECT i would love him 278 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: on my, team don't get me, wrong but high, chase 279 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: limited change and adjustment to, it and the same misses 280 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: over and over and over again can kind of drive me. 281 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Crazy SO i would probably say HIM i love watching him, 282 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: defend but he's probably in that conversation as. Well it's 283 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: just LIKE i man, LIKE i don't like watching guys 284 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 4: just give away at bats like, that and it can 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: get frustrating because you know how talented they, are. 286 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: Sure And i'm sure the defense doesn't help O'nio cruz's case, either, Right, 287 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: no that's a frustrating. Watch it's, frustrating So i'm sure 288 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: that kind of aids in it to your point about the. 289 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: Approach AND i love watching this guy when he's, hot 290 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: but when he's. Not we saw it at the beginning 291 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: of the, Year Raffi devers gets to be a frustrating 292 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: watch for. Me sometimes she can's, like, oh you're swinging 293 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: at that pitch at your neck. Again and when he's, 294 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: right he's gonna hit them at the ballpark and he's 295 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: the only one that can do that In Major League. 296 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: Baseball but when it's not right and he's not hitting that, 297 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: pitch he's still swinging at that, pitch and it just 298 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: kind of makes me go gray a little bit quicker 299 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: WHEN i watch that when the going gets rough For. 300 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: Raffi, yeah and then pitching, like there's no one that 301 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: like in, particular. 302 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: All no one really. LIKE i looked around at just 303 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: the walk, leaders Like Jose, soriano but he's not objectively 304 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: good enough for. THIS i don't, think even though he 305 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: was good last year season. Frustrating he can be frustrating 306 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: seas can. Be but that's really it for, me. 307 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: Man, yeah there's there's not really too many guys on 308 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: the pitching front that that like drive me insane to 309 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: watch a. 310 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Pre pitch Clock. BASSETT i still wrote Down bassett Because 311 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: bassett led the league in shakes and it killed. ME 312 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: i couldn't watch A bassett start pre pitch clock. BACK 313 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: i didn't even realize. 314 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: That to be, honest if he strikes me as a 315 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: guy that would work. 316 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: Slow he worked so slow and he was shaking four 317 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: or five. Times he made a wild card start against The, 318 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: mets and it was actually pretty well. DOCUMENTED i Think 319 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: David cohne was calling that. Game that was The musgrove, 320 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: GAME i think The vacinating on The gasoline game or 321 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: Red hot on the. Ears baskett was on the other, 322 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: side and they were, like this guy cannot stop shaking 323 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: off his. Getch this is so hard to. 324 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: Watch, yeah that that that'll drive me insane, too that 325 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: you can just get locked into that department for. That but, yeah, 326 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: honestly on the in the hitting, side it's it's really 327 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: just there's stretches Where jazz Like jashislm like he's so 328 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: fun to watch and do his, thing but then there's 329 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: stretches where he frustrates. 330 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: Me Like Randy Rose raina in the. Postseason, ye so. 331 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: Awesome but THEN i think that's why it makes it frustrating, 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: sometimes where you have these stretches where it's, like my, 333 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: gosh are you even like locked in right? 334 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Now do? You how. Much how much do. 335 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: You care about the results In may maybe compared to To, 336 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: October but in terms of just watching guys, PLAY i 337 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: don't think anybody really. 338 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: Like gets me that that bothered because it's. 339 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: They're all so talented in their own. 340 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: Ways is there anybody that you love that might be 341 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: punching above what they actually weigh in at in your? 342 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: Mind like for, me it's very CLEAR i have A gore. 343 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: BIAS i Think Mackenzie gore is must watch every time 344 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: he's on the mound and it hasn't really clicked for 345 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: him until this. Year, YEAH i Mean. 346 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: Gore, yeah it's funny because you were excited to Watch 347 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: gore pitch at points WHERE i Just i'm, like why 348 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: are you excited to? 349 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: Watch like what if it all clicks? Today? 350 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah and you know you're you're getting rewarded, NOW i 351 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: think without a. Doubt H i really do enjoy Watching 352 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: Drew rasmussen Pitch. Cool that's a good shout for, this 353 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: just a random one because like he fills up the. Zone, 354 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah and there's something about like WHEN i can get 355 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 4: behind the narrative to this guy's had three elbow, surgeries 356 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: but even before, that when he's dialed. IN i, MEAN 357 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: i think he can be darn right, unhittable And rasmus 358 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: is just a guy THAT i just don't think gets 359 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of lover shine and is 360 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: pretty dominant despite operating. 361 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: It you, KNOW i think. 362 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: Pretty heavy slider usage and two, Fastballs like that's a 363 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: majority of what he's doing is slider and two. Fastballs 364 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: so that part is fun for. Me kind of quickly, 365 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: here but he might just be too good at this. 366 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: Point tyler McGill has been really fun to watch for, 367 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: Me like he is just disgusting, extent AND i like 368 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: seeing how overwhelming it is for, hitters just seeing how 369 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: rushed they are and and just how uncomfortable those abs 370 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: can be for. Them, yeah and then on the on 371 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: the hitting, Front i'm trying to think of like an 372 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: underrated guy THAT I i enjoy watch and kind. 373 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: Of go about their. Business because there's one guy for 374 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: me who is A STOTT i. Love i'm kind of 375 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: addicted to the way he plays the. Game it's he Plays. 376 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: He's off to a phenomenal. 377 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: Start this he's off to a great, start but he 378 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: plays the. Game it's such a smart. Level that guy 379 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: is a step ahead of every single. Pitch, defensively he's, 380 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: awesome he's working quality a B'S i kind of love 381 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: him at the top of that lineup right now And 382 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: schwarber in the four. Spot there's something about Watching stott 383 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: play that just has me in love with the way 384 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: he goes about his. 385 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: Business you know, what you jogged my answer to, then 386 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: and he's honestly just objectively. Good but Zach, netto, sure 387 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: that's a guy that was one of my favorite players 388 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 4: out of the draft and then as, prospect even though 389 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: he was in prospect very, long. 390 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: And then just as just a hitting. 391 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: Guy just appreciating that he went from big leg kick 392 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 4: to now kind of eliminating that and still just being 393 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: so good in the. Box it's a fun blend of 394 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: like hitting and now adding a little bit of. Power 395 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: he plays so hard, THOUGH i, like again another really 396 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 4: heady player that does all the little. 397 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: Things. Well that's probably another one of. 398 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 4: The guys for me That i've said it since last 399 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: year of the fact THAT i think he's probably one 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 4: of the most underrated players In Major League, baseball AND 401 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: i stand by it now STILL i still think he, 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: is and he's a blast to. WATCH i think go 403 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: about his business as, well and it's just consistently good. 404 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: ABS i have some, funny just deep cut bullpen. Arms 405 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: BUT i was last, year LIKE i was watching a 406 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: lot Of Randy rodriguez In West coast, games And i'm 407 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: glad That i'm being rewarded for. That, now same deal 408 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: With Justin. MARTINEZ i was watching a lot Of Justin. 409 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: Martinez is, yeah he's too good for this CONVER i 410 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: Think Randy rodriguez still does fit this. Conversation BUT i 411 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: was watching those guys last year WHEN i was like 412 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: getting back From indianapolis games AND i was just turning 413 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: on A West coast game in the seventh, inning AND 414 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: i was, like these guys are, awesome and no one 415 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: knows about him because they don't play for The. 416 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 4: YANKEES i was listening to a radio call when he 417 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: came in out of the time for The. 418 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: Marlins, yeah and. 419 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: It's the ninety mile an hour. 420 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: KNUCKLEBALL i almost felt like you were you were ready 421 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: to just go into podcast mode and just start breaking 422 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 4: Down Justin, martinez just to like explain to the listener 423 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: how ridiculous it is what you were seeing in that. 424 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: Moment it, Was it's JUST i think otherworldly what he's 425 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: able to, do like it's it's, different and he's really 426 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: it's rial for. Him it's just his biggest competition is 427 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: just himself in there and he's. EXECUTING i don't really 428 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: know what you could do about. IT i don't think 429 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: there's really anything you can do about. 430 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 2: IT i don't think you can do much at. All, 431 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: okay let's go over to The American League west. Here 432 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: our next question is From ryan On. Discord if The 433 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: astros fail or make the playoffs this, season what direction 434 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: do they head in after almost a decade of. Success 435 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: it's probably hard to push the reset? Button could but 436 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: could you guys see them doing? THAT i think the 437 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: short answer is, YES i could absolutely see them doing. 438 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: That here's the, thing BECAUSE i think this is such 439 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: a fascinating, conversation how because here's here's where you're tied. 440 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 4: Up you just Gave Christian walker three years sixty. Million you, 441 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: COULD i, guess theoretically move off of that. Deal but 442 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: you Have altuve locked up until twenty twenty. Nine you 443 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: HAVE i Think Josh hater locked up until twenty twenty, 444 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: eight AND i just. 445 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: Don't know if how. 446 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: Moveable, also by the, way you've got Yord on under 447 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 4: contract until twenty twenty eight as. 448 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: Well, ye you're not trading Yord. 449 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 4: On you're not trading of, course you're not Trading, altuve, 450 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: Right AND i don't know if can you move That 451 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: hater Deal, POTENTIALLY. 452 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: I THINK i THINK i think you can clearcut move 453 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: That hater deal to a big. 454 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: Market, Yeah SO i don't know IF i see a re, 455 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: set like complete, RESET i do see a, restructure BECAUSE 456 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: i still think they're they're too good and talented to 457 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: justify a like total, rebuild but they're also still too 458 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: far away to, say, okay we can just go sign 459 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: a couple of, players because you know that they love 460 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: to operate under you, know the. Threshold and if you 461 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 4: look at kind of the money that they may end 462 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 4: up having to take on next, year like all of 463 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: their players are entering, Arbitration like almost all of them 464 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 4: are either ENTERING ar one or getting TO arm, two 465 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: and they're gonna be much more. Expensive Like Issach prede's 466 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: is going to be AN arm, Three dubon's gonna be 467 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: AN arm four To super. Two Guy Jeremy peney is 468 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: gonna HIT arb, two so he's gonna get a lot more. 469 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 4: Expensive this is the year in twenty twenty six is 470 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: the year where Yord on his contract goes up by 471 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: eleven million dollars from fifteen to twenty, six really from 472 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: sixteen to twenty, SEVEN i should. Say and then like, 473 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: McCormick arm, Three MEYERS arm, two, like they have a 474 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: lot of upticks IN, arb so they'd have to clear 475 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: out a little bit. There BUT i JUST i don't 476 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: know IF i see a full fledged, Reset you're not 477 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 4: gonna be able to move to the Hobby air. Deal 478 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: that's twenty one million in twenty twenty six and twenty 479 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 4: one million in twenty twenty. 480 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: Seven what do you? 481 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: DO i think you have the pieces around to justify a. 482 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: Restructuring i'm with, him so retool might not be the 483 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: right way to go about, This BUT i think that 484 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: you saw the beginning of restructuring this, year, right No, 485 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: regmand No? Tucker, okay how do you Replace bregman And? 486 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: Tucker will you Grab walker by paying, him and you 487 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Grab parades and Cam smith by Trading tucker for? Them 488 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: SO i could see a world and Hater not only 489 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: IS i not only is that deal? Movable in my, 490 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: mind it's movable for a legit. Prospect you're telling me 491 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: you can get three more years after this of one 492 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: of the best relievers in. Baseball and even in his disappointing, 493 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: years he's still a top ten closer in the, game 494 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: and he's been phenomenal out of the gate this. Year 495 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: he's been. GREAT i think that you can attack an 496 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: offensive deficiency with a pre r big leaguer For Josh. 497 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: HATER i think About. Boston If boston needs a Closer 498 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: hater and a prospect for Will youer Or, Bray you, 499 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: like that's absolutely. 500 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 4: Doable, well, Now willier might just be untouchable all this, Time. 501 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: WILLER i Think willier's. 502 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: Untouchable And i'm gonna be talking About willier in a, 503 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 4: Moment BUT i understand what you're, Saying like it could 504 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: Be hater and something for even just a solid prospect 505 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 4: in the upper miners or something that, fits you, know 506 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: what they need if. 507 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: They want to retool a little. Bit, Man, like what 508 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: About hater For? Rafaela you know WHAT i? Mean hater 509 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: for rafael in a, prospect something that. 510 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: Would actually fit their their, needs that would actually make 511 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: a lot of. Sense and you're taking on long term 512 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: money so to. Speak but it's it's helping you in 513 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 4: the short term just to clear up some. 514 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: Money AND i think that's gonna be the. 515 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 4: Priorities they're gonna need to clear up a little bit there, 516 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: too becausein is gonna hit his first year OF arb as. Well, 517 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: yeah but LIKE i don't think you trade A Christian. 518 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 4: WALKER i don't think you necessarily need. 519 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: TO i don't think you need. TO i think we'll 520 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: see a continuous effort to restructure from data Pro. 521 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah and you move like A dubon who's gonna get 522 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: it adds up, right you move Him, accormick who might 523 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: be playing pretty. WELL i think if you're on on 524 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 4: track to to fall. Short, yeah you trim off some 525 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: of these, pieces but you still have a pretty good 526 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 4: infrastructure here where you Hope javier comes back and and 527 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 4: it's close to what he. Was Hunter brown looks like, 528 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: he's you, know one of the better young pitchers in 529 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: the game. Now Ye errighetty unhealthy is still really. Solid, 530 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: yeah so you have you have some pieces Of Luis 531 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: garcia hopefully comes back healthy and looks like he can. 532 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: Help but M colors is, Back welcome to The colors. 533 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: Is, back and he's, back so if you grab some 534 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 4: money you can spend. THERE i do think it's a 535 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: it's a retooling, though for, sure or like an adjustment 536 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: where we're gonna see it look a little, Different BUT 537 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: i don't think you necessarily need to to tear it 538 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: down or or or totally reset Right Like pania looks 539 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: like he's taking a step forward this. 540 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: Year there's there's some pieces. 541 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: TOO i still think be excited about the Cam smith 542 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: addition going into next, Year like that's a guy that 543 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: now you're looking at and, saying maybe he can take 544 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: a step closer to being An All star this year 545 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: since he's really developing at the big league level this. 546 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 4: Year there there's a lot of wrinkles in. That BUT 547 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: i think it's obvious That framber's gone after The probably 548 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: you're gonna Trade framber, too and remember you're gonna get 549 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 4: something there too at the. 550 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: End AND i bet, YOU i bet you can move from, 551 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: her yeah. 552 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: One and you'll get something decent for, him whether it's 553 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: big league pieces or, not bolster up that farm and 554 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: then you can maneuver from. There SO i think we're 555 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: gonna see a variation of what we saw this this 556 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 4: past offseason where they made some, subtractions but they were 557 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: still with the short term and long term in, mind 558 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: and they still made some signings to help the ball 559 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: club as. Well AND i think that's that's where we're 560 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: gonna see them kind of just shuffle around a little, 561 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: Bit BUT i don't think it's a full tear down 562 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: where you, know we see them trade some of their 563 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: controllable guys. 564 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: THAT i like that. Take, okay let's go to The yankees. 565 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: Here this one is a question From chase On. Discord 566 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: what should The yankees do When John Carlos stanton comes? 567 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: Back Ben rice has outplayed as expectations and deserves a 568 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: spot in the. Lineup do The yankees Platoon rice against 569 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: right handers And stanton against left handers or should they 570 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: force someone else out of the. Lineup so there's a 571 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: wrinkle to. This stanton was just moved to the sixty 572 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: day injured list with this elbow issue that's going on 573 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: in both. Elbows, yep it could be a season. Ender 574 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: and we don't have to bridge this conversation Because rice 575 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: could just play first base next year and you let 576 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Gold schmid walk and Then stanton's THE dh when he's back. 577 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Healthy but if there is a world Where stanton does 578 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: come back and his elbows feel fine and he's hitting 579 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: at the end of this, year how do you adjust 580 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: this lineup to account For Ben rice And John Carlo? 581 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: Stanton they are gonna be in a real. Pickle. 582 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah and it almost makes me feel, like you, 583 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: know you could be a little bit more comfortable with 584 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: going the safer route and maybe undergoing whatever procedure he may, 585 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: need or or taking more recovery time because you have 586 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: A Ben. 587 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: Rice BUT i do think. 588 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: The more obvious answer is Is John carlo taking those 589 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 4: those short platoon ABIs one that will help him stay 590 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: healthy and available hopefully. Two Ben rice hasn't been good 591 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: left on Left but the problem is a roster, spot 592 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: a twenty six man spot to a guy that can't 593 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: play defense and is only GONNA i, guess hit lefties 594 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: and maybe select a few spots starts in against. Righties 595 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: is that it justified roster spot because think about the 596 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: bench right. Now it's j C, escara who's your backup. Catcher, 597 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: yeah It's Oswald parrazza who utility in. Fielder It's Pablo, 598 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: reyes who's just full fledge utility player and It's Jason 599 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: dominguez depending on the, day, right or As Waldo, cabrera, 600 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: whatever however you want to maneuver. It that that to 601 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: me is is it's hard to justify booting a guy 602 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: out of there like it'd Be Pabo, Rays i'm. Sure 603 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: but Then, CABRERA i, guess is relegated to the, bench 604 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: and you go that. WAY i guess you can still 605 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: make it work and kind of eat the one bench. 606 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: Spot BUT. 607 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: I just it's it's a weird, role a short platoon D, 608 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: h AND i, guess like. 609 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: For a guy that you're paying your the twenty million dollars. 610 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: And that's why you got to put him in some. 611 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 4: Role but it almost seems like if it's fifty to 612 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: fifty for him to be able to get through this season, 613 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: anyways if it's both elbows and whatever, like it may 614 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: just make sense to try to fix that issue so 615 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: that he can be fully available next, year because you 616 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: imagine Gold schmith probably won't be in the fold next. 617 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: Year rice can then play first base and then you've 618 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: got THE dh spot open. Again BUT i, guess for, 619 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: now if you're trying to get through this, year it's it's, 620 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: yeah super pinch hitter and short PLATOON dh is probably 621 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: the only way to go about. It and maybe that 622 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: Helps John carlo stay. Healthy and if you look at 623 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: like twenty twenty, three he had a nine to forty 624 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: ozerops against left handed. PITCHING i know last year it 625 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 4: wasn't he didn't have splits in that. Favor he's actually 626 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: a little bit better against right handed. Pitching BUT i imagine 627 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: usually this guy's, age big power. Hitters you remember Pool 628 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 4: holes even at the end there, too like he was 629 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: still able to get his against left Left. 630 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure Pool holes. 631 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: Was, yeah so that might be the path and just 632 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: kind of filling that like Pool holes type of role 633 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: where if it's a lefty on the, bump he's in 634 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: the lineup every single. Time AND i guess that could 635 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: still be two three starts a. 636 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: Week, YEAH i would think, so and Pool, Holes i'm 637 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: gonna pull up these, numbers but, uh it could be 638 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: two three starts a. Week my thought is from A 639 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: yankee fan, perspective this is not a great conversation to 640 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: be having About John Carlos stanton, Right, oh we have 641 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: to get his bat in the. Lineup how do we 642 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: get his bat in the. Lineup but this is an 643 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: Exceptional Yankee macro. Conversation to be happy because you found a, 644 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: Guy you found one of the better power hitters In 645 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: Major League baseball at this point In Ben, rice be 646 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: happy about. That that's really really exciting. 647 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: Stuff, yeah and you know if something happened somebody goes. 648 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: Down the thing About Ben rice it's interesting is he 649 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: can catch in an. EMERGENCY i think he's caught a 650 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 4: game this. Year he's gonna play a little fur so 651 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: at that point as. Well god For Big goldie goes 652 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: down or, whatever then immediately you have an opportunity to 653 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: plug him in and play him more, so even if 654 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 4: he is playing short, platoon he is the guy that 655 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: ultimately can slide right into that full time dhrol because 656 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: Then Ben rice can fill in at first. Base i'm 657 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: curious to see what they would do if If Austin 658 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: wells went down like knock on one would would you 659 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: then Have rice catch a little bit and split time 660 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: with the scar? 661 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: Like how would you go about? 662 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: That i'm hopefully don't have to have that, answered but 663 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: that is just an interesting wrinkle in it, Too Like 664 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 4: rice is not If rice was stuck as A dh 665 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 4: only as. 666 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: Well then it's a really difficult. 667 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: Conversation but at Least rice can be a potential alternate 668 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: for two other positions. 669 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: Too, yeah no. Doubt by the, Way albert poolhols in 670 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one between The angels and The dodgers against 671 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: righty's one hundred and thirty nine at bats at a 672 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: four ninety nine ops against lefties one hundred and thirty 673 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: six at bats at a nine to thirty nine. Ps 674 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: that was the. 675 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: Dream that's. 676 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: Crazy and then in what twenty twenty, two his final, 677 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: year he swashed three fifty, one four, five seven forty 678 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: six against lefties and one hundred and thirty one played. 679 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: Appearances, yeah that's. 680 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: Crazy thirteen home runs and one hundred and thirty one played. 681 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: Appearances it is next. Level, okay let's go to our 682 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: next question. Here this one is REGARDING mlb, breakouts and 683 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: the question comes to us from dirf On, discord who 684 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: is your favorite post hype breakout this year and? Why 685 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: so we thought about how to navigate this. Question what 686 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: does it? Mean is it a prospect that didn't break 687 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 2: out but was expected. To was it a player that 688 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: didn't break? Out was expected. To the way THAT i 689 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 2: viewed it was GUIDs that got to the big, leagues 690 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: struggle more than maybe a lot of people were, expecting 691 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: and haven't been one of the best young players in, 692 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: baseball but could turn into one of the best young 693 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: players in baseball this. Year so the example THAT i 694 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: plucked was Like Francisco alvarez And Gabby, moreno the catchers 695 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: for The diamondbacks and The. Mets those guys at this, 696 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: POINT i think some prospect laden people would be, saying, 697 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: hey they should be two of the top five catchers 698 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: In Major League. Baseball neither are there, yet but by 699 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: the end of the year we could absolutely be talking 700 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: about both of them as being that person. 701 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: Who are you more confident? In Because francisco just came 702 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: back off injury And moreno he ended up turning Into. 703 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: Nico last year overall was he was banged up as, 704 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: well but in ninety seven games he was a two 705 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: and a half win player in one oh SEVEN wrc. 706 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: Plus But morando has been bad to start this year 707 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 4: sixty NINE wrc plus, again still an incredible, defender so 708 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 4: it's working in terms of being a positive, asset but 709 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: he's not. Hitting who do you have, confidence and Because 710 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 4: alvarez has turned himself into a phenomenal defender as. 711 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: WELL i Think alvarez Because alvarez has that worst case 712 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: scenario three true outcome type of thing where he could 713 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: sell out For pop and what was? It Eric chavez 714 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: said he couldn't sell out For pop. Anymore what he 715 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: got away from whatever. 716 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: He was he needs to be more of a. 717 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: Hitter he needs to be more of a. Hitter i'm 718 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: not sure about. THAT i Think gabby he could just 719 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: put the ball on the ground way too much to 720 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: ever be a super productive, hitter But alvarez could fall 721 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: back on being. That, WELL i, Know i'm going to 722 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: hit you twenty five, homers even IF i hit two, 723 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: ten And i'm going to be A Gold glove caliber. 724 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 4: Defender and even if he's just an above average, defender 725 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 4: if you hit two ten and you walk a little, 726 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 4: bit and you hit twenty to twenty five home, runs. 727 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: You're going to be quite. 728 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: Valuable SO i mean that that's one hundred percent WHY 729 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 4: i agree like he's probably the. 730 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 2: Sexier pick as. 731 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 4: Well, moreno the value that he can bring in terms 732 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 4: omiting the running game and things like that is all 733 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 4: so just gonna help him be valuable pretty much no matter. 734 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: What BUT i agree with, you, like if he's not, 735 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: right it's just gonna be a lot of weak ground 736 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 4: balls and things like. That and the reason Why i've 737 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 4: always Loved moreno as a prospect is that he hits 738 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 4: the ball harder than he gets credit. For but at 739 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: what point are we gonna see that turn into not 740 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: not even Just homer's just more, doubles more extra base. 741 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 4: Hits you, KNOW i look back to That World series 742 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 4: run that they. Made he was crushing Base. 743 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: He was crushing and it's never gonna be A Cabrian 744 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: hayes conversation Because moreno is just a better hitter than. That, 745 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: yeah but it is like the hybrid conversation Where, okay 746 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: like you provide a little bit of defensive value but 747 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 2: not as much As, alvarez and you're Not Cabrian, hayes 748 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: but you do have the same. 749 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: DEFICIENCIES i do think he's gonna have a, big a 750 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: big finish to the, year, Though and you, know in 751 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 4: ninety seven games last year to be a two and 752 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: a half win player despite being banged. UP i think 753 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: if we see a full season from, him and once 754 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 4: he starts to get going, here and some of the 755 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 4: badded ball data points starts him being a little and. 756 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: Unlucky you're looking at like a forty something point difference 757 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 4: between HIS wolba and his ex. 758 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: wOBA this is a guy that could easily have a 759 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: four to win. 760 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 4: Season so and another AND i like the post type 761 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 4: breakout conversation because, MORENO i don't know if you're looking at, 762 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 4: it like what would you guess his ages if you 763 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: if you, don't if you weren't just looking at it, 764 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: RECENTLY i imagine you were because you. 765 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: Called games with with them in. 766 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: Town, YEAH i mean he was twenty. 767 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: Four he just turned twenty. 768 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: Five he just turned twenty, Five, okay like just turn. 769 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: MEETING i probably saw when he was twenty. 770 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: Four he might have he might have turned twenty, five 771 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: like in that. 772 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: Series you, know that's. RIGHT i wished him a happy early. 773 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: BIRTHDAY i, think, HEY i either said happy early birthday 774 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: or happy belated. Birthday so, yeah like, that. 775 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah like that's a young young. Guy and Then alvarez 776 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 4: is twenty three for the entirety of the. Season so 777 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: so two guys that, could especially at the catching, position 778 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: continue to develop as you, know the season, progresses and 779 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 4: as you, know they get closer to twenty six twenty, 780 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: seven we see that all the time with catchers is 781 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 4: probably the most obvious, answer, Right BUT i. 782 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: THINK pca is already in the midst of like what 783 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: that breakout looks. Like there were a couple other deeper 784 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: cut ones THAT i. HAD i think people jump ship 785 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: On Victor scott way too, soon way too, quick way too. 786 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: Soon Victor scott is closer To Chandler simpson than anybody 787 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: wants to give him credit. For and he's hitting some. 788 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: Homers he's not gonna put bat on ball Like Chandler simpson. 789 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 2: Will And simpson has a bit better plate, discipline but 790 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: he can absolutely. Fly he is as fast As. Simpson 791 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: simpson may be like a step, quicker but we haven't 792 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: seen that foot. 793 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 4: Race and you also have a guy that is a 794 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: better defender in center field and In. 795 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: Scott, yeah So I'm i'm riding The scott. THING i 796 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 2: just saw him go deep In cincinnati as. Well another, 797 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 2: guy AND i don't think he fits this criteria because 798 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: he's like so far. Gone i've been actually really encouraged 799 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: by What gavin lux is doing to start the. Year In. 800 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 2: CINCINNATI i thought that was a really good fit for, 801 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: him But i'm, not you, know like Stamp, okay he's that. 802 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 2: Guy the one THAT i am stamping on the mount 803 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 2: Is Shane. Boss if you haven't Watched boz yet this, 804 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: Year boz is one of the better young pitchers in the. 805 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: Game and it just took a while because he was. Injured. 806 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: Yep, yeah and he just looks there's something with THE 807 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 4: tj guys like not, everybody but, yeah there's a it's 808 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 4: so hard to, describe BUT i know you could probably 809 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: add to this where it looks like all of a, 810 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: sudden something clicks and it might just be, physical just 811 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 4: just feeling, it and all of a, sudden it just 812 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 4: it looks like they're just throwing free where it's like 813 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: almost like your arm was tight and now it's loose 814 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 4: and you just feel whippy and like you just feel 815 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 4: like jello in a good. Way whereas like you can 816 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 4: just feel it rip off your fingers and it. 817 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: Ja they just feel free and. 818 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 4: Easy and that's What i'm seeing With boz, again because 819 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 4: when he was the top one of the top pitching 820 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 4: prospects in, baseball it was just this, slow easy wind 821 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: up and then just crazy arm speed and it's on, 822 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 4: you and it was so low. 823 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: Effort it just looked a little bit stiffer for a. 824 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: Bit and now he looks so free and. 825 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: Easy and that is a guy THAT i do think 826 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 4: people forget because the conversation was always Like Shane boss 827 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 4: Or Grayson, rodriguez who's the best pitching prospect in? Baseball 828 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 4: and you know very quickly when they're not in front 829 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 4: of you all the time and maybe not succeeding a 830 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 4: ton right out of the, gate you kind of forget 831 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: just how exciting those guys once. Were AND i think 832 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 4: we're seeing With. BOSS i, mean you already have a 833 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: ten strikeout outing and an eleven strikeout outing and the 834 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 4: last time out against The padres seven innings. Scoreless he's 835 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 4: starting to become that guy and again another guy he's 836 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 4: not even twenty six. 837 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 2: Yet, yeah so that's a good. 838 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 4: One and THEN i don't know how Much i'm buying 839 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 4: in terms of like him being a four win player 840 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 4: or whatever it may, be BUT i do think we're 841 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: seeing him become a good. Ballplayer and it wasn't great 842 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 4: last Year South. FREELICK i think that PROBABLY i feel 843 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: like he kind of fits the bill of this conversation. 844 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: Too this was a first round, pick this is a 845 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 4: consensus top one hundred. Prospects and, yeah maybe people that 846 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 4: are more close to the CENTRAL i would, Say, oh, 847 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: WELL i don't think the hype ever fully died on 848 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 4: him or. Whatever BUT i don't, KNOW i just felt 849 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 4: like his names just stopped coming, up and you, know 850 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 4: kind of. 851 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: Know what he. Was he was clumped in With kwan 852 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: as like guys that just swung a wet, noodle, like, 853 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: Oh freelick's never going to hit the ball, out, YadA, YadA. 854 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 2: YadA kwan all of a sudden decided to start hitting 855 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 2: the ball. Out he might hit thirty homers this. Year i'm, 856 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: kidding But kwan's already what a four? Homers but, yeah he's. 857 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 2: Different he's, different for. Sure kuwan is. Different but you, 858 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: Know freedlick was being clumped in with guys Like Luisa rise, 859 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: honestly who were going to make contact a, lot but 860 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: it's not going. Anywhere so how valuable is? That? Truly, 861 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 2: well the difference Is freelick's a freak athlete that can 862 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: play a very good. Outfield, yeah AND i think it's 863 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: a little bit more dynamic offensively. 864 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 4: Too, yeah, Yeah AND i think he's been playing all 865 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 4: three spots and he's trying, to i, think settle in 866 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 4: AND i still think he's scraping the surface of what 867 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 4: he ultimately can be as a, defender because there's a 868 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 4: guy that has moved around in his. Career remember they 869 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: stuck him at third at one. POINT i think he's 870 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 4: even played a little bit of third already this, year 871 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: which is. CRAZY i would love to see him continue 872 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: to get reps out there in the outfield WHERE i, 873 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 4: mean this was a guy that was a good football 874 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 4: player in high school and just as you, mentioned elite, 875 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 4: athlete so that that defense can come along even. Further 876 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 4: but just seeing the offensive side of, things and again 877 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 4: maybe there's some some bad of ball, luck BUT i 878 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 4: think there is just a clear improvement in the swing 879 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 4: decisions and the quality of contact and the consistency of 880 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 4: contact that he looks like the guy that was This 881 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 4: he was a top one hundred prospect because of the, 882 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: ceiling because the floor and the floor just being so so. 883 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 4: High it looks like he's finally settling INTO i think that, 884 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 4: solid you, know just bat to ball guy and good 885 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 4: speed guy that was a top one hundred prospects across the. 886 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: Board of, course we're going to get to a pre 887 00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 2: arm conversation in a moment before that quick. Break, okay 888 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 2: now we get away from the discord questions and a 889 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 2: reminder that you can join our discord with the link 890 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 2: in the episode. Description but now we go To. Twitter 891 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: we pulled Two twitter questions and Two instagram questions to. 892 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: Wrap twitter question comes from a At Skuyler clifton ON. 893 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: X who are some of the young guys who should 894 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: be up next for a PRE orb. Extension it's kind 895 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: of all. Encompassing there are a couple of guys that 896 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 2: have already gotten one so far this. Year Jackson merrill 897 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: was the notable. One he was already locked up long 898 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: term on a PRE arb. Deal where did you? Go 899 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 2: did you go guys that haven't debuted or did you 900 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: kind of spray the board a little? 901 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 4: BIT i sprayed the board a little bit BECAUSE i 902 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 4: think there's some some of the almost easier candidates are 903 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,959 Speaker 4: the guys that won't cost one hundred and fifty million 904 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 4: dollars like the we saw The campbell deal just not 905 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 4: being right crazy. Expensive so those are the ones that 906 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 4: think can get done a little bit, easier and. 907 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 2: Who costs one hundred million Dollars obviously schemes cost three 908 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 2: hundred at this point and they're not going to do yeah. 909 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 4: Me So, also by the, WAY i thought of another 910 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 4: post type breakout That's Meyer. 911 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: Meyer, Yeah meyer's. 912 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: Like shame on, us, right because like that's a top 913 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 4: five pick and all the talent in the. World of 914 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 4: COURSE tj played a part in, that but STILL i 915 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 4: had to shout him out because he looks like that. 916 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: Guy but in terms of like who could be? That 917 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: so you want to start with like the, big big money, guys. 918 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 2: The big ticket guys THAT i thought, of the ones 919 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 2: THAT i didn't even write Down, Skeens, ellie And. GUNNER 920 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 2: i did not write down those three. Guys, yeah the ship. 921 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 4: Sailed you're not going to be able to do that 922 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 4: unless it's like A julio deal with less, guardrails where 923 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 4: like the probability is high for them to achieve all 924 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 4: of those you, know scale scalable aspects of the. 925 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 3: Contract. 926 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: Right two guys THAT i think would be signing nine 927 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: figure pre orb Extensions James wood And washington mm, HMM. 928 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 4: PCA i Think PCA's probably got to do it for 929 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 4: another month or, two just because he's so aggressive and you, 930 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 4: know has the history of just volatility, offensively but the 931 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 4: glove being so freaking good in the speed and the 932 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 4: guy that sells. Jerseys, man we talked about what was 933 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 4: the most warn jersey outside of The japanese, Players it 934 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 4: was THE pca when they played that. 935 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: Series, yeah SO i THINK i think that's a no. 936 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 4: Brainer and then circling back To, Willier he's not a 937 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 4: nine figure, guy but that's a guy THAT i think 938 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 4: you look. At, yeah because we talked about, this what 939 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 4: are what are the criteria THAT i think make a 940 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: good pre arb. CANDIDATE i think it's, either, WELL i 941 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 4: think one is just the superstar player that you're hoping 942 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 4: to potentially save yourself or really elongate the the the 943 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: control that you have because, inevitably for a lot of these, 944 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 4: teams you're going to lose them to free. Agencies you're 945 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 4: not gonna be able to outbid the big market. Teams 946 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 4: but also it's for some of the cheaper ones relatively, 947 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 4: speaking it's, okay what's kind of the twenty fifth percentile 948 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 4: outcome for this player, too because you're you're obviously gonna 949 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 4: save money in the seventy fifth percent out out, come 950 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 4: but also, like if it doesn't totally work, out COULD 951 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 4: i get? Burned and that's why Even, raphaelo which it 952 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 4: may not look like the best deal in the, world 953 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 4: you can't get totally burned because he can play an 954 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 4: elite center field and even plug in it short if 955 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 4: you really need. It Will you're, like this is a 956 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 4: guy that's gonna play a good corner. Outfield he's gonna 957 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 4: run into enough home runs WHERE i think he's gonna 958 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 4: give you some value, there and he just hits the 959 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 4: ball hard and he walks a, Ton so, like Will 960 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 4: you're a Bray you for me is another. GUY i 961 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 4: don't think it would be north of seventy million or, 962 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 4: whatever BUT i don't think. 963 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 3: SO i think that's a guy. 964 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: That you could feel pretty comfortable giving that pree arm extension, 965 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 4: too especially as he just continues to look. BETTER i 966 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 4: think seeing him struggle in the second half last year 967 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 4: and then come back this year and have a great 968 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 4: start to the season almost makes me more. CONFIDENT i, 969 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 4: mean he's on pace to shatter last year's home run 970 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 4: total of. 971 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: FIFTEEN i Think Will your is a great like kind 972 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: of load to mid level pre arm extension. Shout tell 973 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 2: me if this guy is more expensive or cheaper than 974 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 2: will you're a braill You Austin wells The. YANKEES i 975 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: Think wells could be a slam dunk PRE arb, candidate 976 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 2: just to buy out two years of free. Agency The 977 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: yankees for the first time Since posada have a. Catcher, 978 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 2: yeah they can trust to play every. DAY i think 979 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 2: there's something calming about, that AND i think The steinbrenner 980 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 2: name could be very happy with. That And Brian cashman could, 981 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 2: say you know, what, like we got our. Guy let's 982 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 2: not look any further right, Now Austin, wells come on, 983 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: Down you're you're The yankee backstop for the next seven eight. 984 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 2: Years whatever you want to give. 985 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 4: Him based on catching cost, PRECEDENT i think he'd be, 986 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 4: cheaper a little bit. 987 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: Cheap think a little. 988 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 4: Cheaper, yeah BUT i think that's a good. One here's 989 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 4: here's another interesting one for. You and it's not a 990 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 4: position that you generally want to do it, at BUT 991 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 4: i think about just where they're at and where they 992 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 4: want to. Be Michael bush with The, cubs you gave 993 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 4: up a lot for, him AND I i'll never say 994 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 4: that was a bad. Trade no matter how Good. Zayr 995 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: hope And Jackson ferris end up, Being i'll never call 996 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 4: it a bad, trade just so it. 997 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 2: Goes they got a borderline all star first basement out. 998 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 4: Of this who looks as good as ever and he's 999 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 4: a GREAT i, think at least a solid. DEFENDER i 1000 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 4: feel like that could be an interesting cheap because it's first. 1001 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 4: Base he hasn't been a great defender this, year but 1002 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 4: he was good last. Year he's crushing the, ball he's 1003 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 4: striking out less than. Ever it may be a little bit, 1004 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 4: riskier but that's a guy that at twenty seven years, 1005 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 4: old you could probably buy out a couple extra years 1006 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 4: for relatively. Cheap BUT i Think James wood is the 1007 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 4: perfect candidate in terms of who he is as a, 1008 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 4: player the fact that he got, paid but it wasn't 1009 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 4: like he was a top ten. 1010 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 3: Pick The nationals have the money to do it. 1011 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 4: Right they've cleared up so much off the books they 1012 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 4: need some continuity. Here and there's really no question about 1013 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 4: how talented this guy. Is so it's just a matter 1014 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 4: of does he become AN mvp candidate or is he 1015 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 4: just a really good beat in power guy for a long. 1016 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 4: TIME i don't really see a scenario where you're getting burned. 1017 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 4: There and for The, nats it makes all the sense 1018 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 4: in the. World a team that Lost, harper that Lost 1019 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 4: soto and it was too late by the time they're 1020 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 4: trying to make him the offers, Right, yeah lost Traded 1021 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 4: turner because they knew they weren't going to keep. Him 1022 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 4: you have satisfied the or figured out The strasburg, situation 1023 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 4: so that money's at least going to be accounted, for 1024 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 4: And horbin's off the, books AND i JUST i think 1025 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,479 Speaker 4: for a franchise that you can look at and, say, 1026 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 4: wow they've lost Multiple hall Of famers, here this is 1027 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 4: the spot to do, it and they've got the money 1028 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: to be able to do. It they've been waiting for 1029 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 4: the right time to. Spend here's a perfect. Spot AND 1030 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 4: i think that would help and deer free agents who 1031 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 4: they should be able to start signing coming out after this, 1032 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 4: year especially With cruise looking better and this core that 1033 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 4: can be so. 1034 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 2: Exciting, YEAH i think you id'd the guy that can 1035 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 2: be the selling point to free. Agents i'm with. You 1036 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: where the idea Of Wooden cruise probably. Sold Josh bell 1037 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: And Paul DeYoung this? Offseason you want to punch a 1038 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: bit higher than. 1039 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,439 Speaker 4: That what's especially if you're an Arm, like for, sure 1040 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 4: we're signing a five year. 1041 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 2: Deal, yeah what's gonna Make Michael king want to be 1042 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 2: A Washington? National, well if you Know James wood's going 1043 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 2: to be there for, Ten, Okay i'll be there for. Six, 1044 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 2: like what what's gonna Make Zach gallan want to team 1045 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 2: up With Michael king IN? Dc i'm thinking about, that 1046 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 2: and it's Paying wood and Having cruise And abrams continue 1047 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 2: to tick. 1048 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 4: Up, YEAH i think that's the biggest no. Brainer and 1049 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 4: Then i'm trying to think on the prospect, front, like 1050 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 4: is there really somebody out there that you would give 1051 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 4: pre hard deal? 1052 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: To Is? Roman roman's the only? 1053 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 4: One roman's the only, one and he's probably gonna say. 1054 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, Like roman's at the point where he could say. 1055 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 2: No there are a couple other big leaguers that you. 1056 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 2: KNOW i was looking at your Guy. NETTO i Think 1057 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: netto could make a lot of sense for The angels 1058 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 2: if they love. Spending, yeah and. 1059 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 4: He wouldn't be as, EXPENSIVE i think as, nice and 1060 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 4: he'd probably whatever it would, be it would be. 1061 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: A steal and two cheap ones like two that we 1062 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 2: might forget to talk about on The Just Baseball show 1063 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: if they. Happened Elliott ramos at this, point, like why 1064 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't The giants just, Extend like he clearly figured something 1065 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 2: out In San. Francisco just ride this high and give 1066 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: him a five year deal if it's cheap. Enough, YES 1067 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 2: i like. That if five for, thirty would you do 1068 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 2: five for thirty For? Ramos, YEAH i. 1069 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 4: Would you're not going to get burned on. That, no 1070 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 4: it's going to run into enough. 1071 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: Power and the other, One emmanuel class as on an 1072 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: extension right, now and it was a cheap. Extension could 1073 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 2: you just Throw Cade smith a seven year deal right? 1074 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 2: Now if You're? Cleveland they like do would you like? 1075 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 4: That would you be a little jaded, after you, know, 1076 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 4: LOOKING i, mean it's still so cheap For CLASS a 1077 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 4: THAT i don't even think you're upset about it, Still 1078 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 4: but would you be a little bit worried after the 1079 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 4: trend Of CLASS a over the last six? 1080 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: Months, no Because CLASS a could absolutely get it back 1081 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 2: in the next week and we could be looking At 1082 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 2: CLASS a is still one of the best relievers in, 1083 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: baseball and even coming into this year with the postseason and. 1084 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: Struggles we were talking about this guy being literally the 1085 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: best in it not being. 1086 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 4: Close, well and if he's sixty percent of what he 1087 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 4: was last, year it's still a good. 1088 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 2: Deal SO. 1089 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 4: I was trying to think of one, other one other, 1090 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 4: name because pictures are tough. Too you don't really usually 1091 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 4: want to go down that route in. General but it's 1092 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 4: funny because the timing is kind of weird given The murphy, 1093 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 4: situation but With Drake baldwin and just the way The 1094 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 4: braves Operate. 1095 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 3: Baldwin Is i've already seen. 1096 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 4: Enough LIKE i, thought he was the safest catching prospect 1097 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 4: you really had in the. Minors that's why we ranked 1098 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 4: him as a top twenty five prospect. Preseason actually he 1099 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 4: was top twenty pre, seasons number seventeen for, us on 1100 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 4: the top one hundred. 1101 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 3: LESSON i Know. Rep seven been there. 1102 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 4: Totally every day for, him BUT i, mean already we've 1103 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 4: seen him just looked really comfortable at the big league. Level, 1104 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 4: one even despite the slow start where he was sitting 1105 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 4: balls at everybody at all. Times he's played seventeen games 1106 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 4: to series a one oh FIVE wrc plus three twenty 1107 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 4: SEVEN whoba three fifty THREE X whoba and he's defending, 1108 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 4: well he's just A i, think a guaranteed salad catcher 1109 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 4: for a long. Time and it's a guy that hit 1110 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 4: a six hundred thousand dollars signing. Bonus he's a third round. 1111 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 3: PICK i think you. 1112 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 4: COULD i think he'd love to have some guaranteed. Earnings 1113 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 4: it's The Christian campbell conversation, too people, like oh it 1114 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 4: was so. Cheap, well, yeah the guy signed for like 1115 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 4: half a MILL i think, so which is a lot of, 1116 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 4: money but like in The Grand, scheme not not. Enough 1117 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 4: SO i think that's a. Guy you may not make 1118 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 4: a ton of sense right, now but that might be 1119 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 4: why you can actually pull it. OFF i felt like 1120 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 4: that might be a good candidate as. 1121 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 2: WELL i like that, shout and it takes us into 1122 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 2: our next. Question this comes to us From LEVI g 1123 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 2: one four two three ON x can you predict the 1124 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 2: best players at each position in twenty. Thirty we're gonna 1125 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 2: kind of go rapid around the. Diamond BUT i Had 1126 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 2: Drake baldwin written down for being the best catcher in 1127 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 2: baseball in the next five. YEARS i look at everybody. Else, 1128 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 2: alvarez there's a Shot, MORENO i think that shot is. Dwindling, 1129 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 2: yeah the current catchers right, Now William contreras is going 1130 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: to be thirty, two Cal rawley's going to be thirty, 1131 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 2: three thirty, Four adlee's going to be. Thirty so THEN 1132 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 2: i go to the prospects AND i look At Dalton. 1133 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 2: Rushing where's he going to? BE i don't even know 1134 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 2: if he's going to be A dodger at that, Point 1135 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 2: butsio could be a first. BASEMAN i look at The, 1136 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 2: CAROS i don't know Till. No how About? Baldwin, YEAH 1137 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 2: i like. It so based on process of, ELIMINATION i 1138 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: settled On Drake baldwin being the best catcher in baseball 1139 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 2: in twenty. 1140 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,720 Speaker 4: THIRTY i ACTUALLY i. DON'T i don't mind that. SHOUT 1141 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 4: i think it's. Possible it's definitely. POSSIBLE i, wonder LIKE 1142 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 4: i think Cal rowley might still just be Doing he's 1143 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 4: like he's going to be thirty, four thirty. FOUR i 1144 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 4: think he's. THIRTY i think he's what he's twenty nine right? 1145 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 4: Now during five, Years. 1146 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 2: LIKE i, think IF i had to give an, ANSWER 1147 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: i bet now he'll be thirty. 1148 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 3: THREE i Think i'd go cal. 1149 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 4: Rally but IF i, had for the sake of the 1150 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 4: argument go different. 1151 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 3: Direction What william will? 1152 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 2: Be what Thirty william will be thirty? 1153 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 4: TWO i Think rally Or william are the are the 1154 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 4: best choices still BECAUSE i still think they're going to 1155 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 4: be doing it at that. Age, though IF i had 1156 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 4: to pick someone beyond those, GUYS i do Think baldwin 1157 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 4: has a higher ceiling Than Austin. WELLS i Think baldwin 1158 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 4: has a higher ceiling. Then, yeah pretty much all the 1159 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 4: other guys were talking about here In, MORENO i think 1160 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 4: the only guy that he doesn't have a higher ceiling 1161 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 4: then Is. Alvarez But alvarez you just have the volatility. 1162 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 4: THERE i Think alvarez is a good shout though. Too 1163 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 4: but this safest pick of the guys that aren't already 1164 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 4: at the, TOP i do think would probably Be Drake, 1165 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 4: baldwin as he's playing every day and and just continuing to, 1166 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 4: develop and especially with with the success that The braves 1167 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 4: have had with developing. 1168 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 2: Backstops, yeah do you have the rest of yours written 1169 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: down because we can just kind of go rapid. Fire, yeah, 1170 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 2: yeah first, base who you Got? VLADDIE i still Have, Laddie, 1171 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: Yes so we agree on that second. 1172 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 3: Base second base was. Tough i'm curious. 1173 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 2: What you, Had kevin. McGonagall, oh that's actually a great. 1174 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 4: ANSWER i had Either Christian, campbell, okay or this is 1175 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 4: the this is the only One i'm gonna get cute 1176 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 4: with Or jesus my. Day, sure, yeah, okay just because 1177 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 4: he and and this isn't me trying to be cute 1178 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 4: and just like hype up a prospect like it's pretty 1179 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 4: much the only Prospect i'm gonna mention on, here just 1180 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 4: because second base is the way that it. IS i 1181 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 4: think my going to move off of Short and if 1182 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 4: you haven't seen what he's doing already this, year IT'S i, 1183 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 4: mean if you listen to the, show you know how 1184 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 4: EXCITED i am about his modeen have been for a year. 1185 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 4: NOW i don't THINK i accounted for this kind of 1186 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 4: production IN wela. Already he is a. Freak he's an absolute. 1187 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 4: Freak he's not even eighteen. 1188 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 2: Yet, YEAH i understand where you're coming, from and he'll 1189 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: be twenty three at the, time SO i could see. 1190 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 2: IT i went McGonagall because he looks like a second 1191 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 2: basement playing shortstop right now when he's healthy and you've 1192 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: lauded the bat to ball. Abilities he's a top ten 1193 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 2: prospect in baseball right. Now he's gonna move off of 1194 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 2: short he's gonna play, second AND i think that offensive 1195 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: profile at second, base knowing that he's going to be 1196 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: a good defensive second. Basement but that gave me some safety. 1197 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 4: THERE i love that pick, too BECAUSE i, mean you, 1198 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 4: know he's one of my favorite bats in a long. 1199 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 4: Time but you think about that environment that he's gonna 1200 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 4: be hitting. In, yeah a ton of space in the. 1201 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 4: Gaps he's all. Feeling it's the power is still, budding 1202 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 4: and he's get. Healthy he sprained his, ANKLE i, think 1203 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 4: but that is probably as safe of a pick as 1204 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 4: you could have BECAUSE I i almost think he's a 1205 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 4: guarantee if he's playing second, base to be top five 1206 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 4: at the position in the next five years for. 1207 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah short stop. EASY i Went Bobby, WITT. 1208 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 3: I Went Maximo. 1209 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 2: Costa oh. Nice, yeah that's well over three hundred In 1210 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 2: jacksonville right. 1211 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 3: Now Bobby WIT's the. 1212 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 2: Layup ellie's, there gunners, there the short stop Is. 1213 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 4: YEAH i guess it's not a complete lay up if 1214 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 4: you believe That ellie could take another. Leap But Bobby 1215 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 4: witt is, like actually the perfect baseball. 1216 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 2: Player, yeah he is third base where you At Junior. 1217 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 4: Camenaro WHEN i went, THERE i WENT i didn't feel 1218 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 4: one hundred confident in, It, LIKE i think there's a 1219 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 4: real scenario where a prospect could insert themselves in that. 1220 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 4: CONVERSATION i love. 1221 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 2: Camp smith was the name that came to mind for 1222 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 2: me as a runner. Up Camp smith Also, Austin, right 1223 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 2: he might still be hitting at that. 1224 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 4: Point, yeah he might get himself like really really going 1225 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 4: again and THEN i the one other just prospect shout 1226 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 4: and AGAIN i Had Camon arrow, Here but, YEAH i 1227 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 4: Think Sebastian walcott moves off of. Short, yeah and this 1228 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 4: kid is off the charts as. Well so and we're 1229 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 4: talking ABOUT i think seventy. Power the hit is just 1230 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 4: getting better and. Better he doesn't. Chase he's putting up 1231 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 4: numbers in The rangers org as a nineteen year old 1232 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 4: In DOUBLE. A so you'll get it from that, Lens, 1233 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 4: like that's definitely he just turned. Nineteen that's definitely a 1234 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 4: guy that could be in that. Conversation But i'm not 1235 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 4: gonna thrust a newly turned nineteen year old who's still 1236 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 4: getting it going in double a fully over Junior Kamon, 1237 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 4: arow who had some of the best raw power in 1238 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 4: the minor leagues and is still trying to fully get 1239 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 4: his footing at the big league. Level BUT i think 1240 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 4: if he, unlocked it's kind of The vladdie conversation With, 1241 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 4: junior where the bat speed is off the, charts there's 1242 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 4: some moving, parts and sometimes he gets a little out 1243 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 4: of whack and ends up putting the ball on the 1244 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 4: ground too. Much but he's one little adjustment away from 1245 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 4: potentially just just putting together just, absurd absurd. Numbers SO 1246 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: i think common arrow is the best pick. 1247 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 2: There cool. OUTFIELD i felt really bad not Including Juan, 1248 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Soto Kyle, Tucker Fernando, Tatis Jackson. MERRILL i felt bad 1249 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 2: not including those. GUYS i also felt a little bit 1250 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 2: not Including Roman, anthony but the three THAT i went, With, Corbyn, 1251 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Carroll James. Wood what he's doing right, now, dude like 1252 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 2: just random one eleven golf shots like shoelace high that 1253 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 2: he's sending out to left. Center he could hit. Fifty, 1254 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 2: yeah he gave me a, season so Would. Carol And 1255 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,479 Speaker 2: i'm drunk On chorio right. NOW i watching him play. 1256 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: Baseball, okay so you're you're definite only betting on the 1257 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 4: on the young guys just continuing to. 1258 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Progress, yeah and then carol them to BUYING. Mvp, Yeah i've. 1259 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 4: Got soto, still, uh just BECAUSE i just soo He's 1260 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 4: soto Corbyin and then this is where it was tough for, 1261 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 4: me BECAUSE i Think tucker is going to still be 1262 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 4: phenomenal in five. Years but with What Fernando Tatis junior 1263 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 4: is doing this, Year, yeah and looking LIKE i love 1264 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 4: the swing adjustment AND i know we omde it him 1265 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 4: in The All may. Team we've Been All april, teams 1266 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 4: we've Been how can you do? THAT i, YEAH i 1267 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 4: mean it's. 1268 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a whole. 1269 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 4: THING i couldn't believe that before up in. ARMS i 1270 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 4: understand that was probably a bad, Omission But, TATIS i 1271 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 4: think he's got to be the. Guy he's also back 1272 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 4: to defending at like an elite level again in right. 1273 01:01:54,480 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 4: Field so what he'll be thirty, One, yeah he'll probably 1274 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 4: still be playing out of his freaking. Mind he might 1275 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 4: even be playing his best baseball at that. Point is you, 1276 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 4: know the approach continues to get better and he learns 1277 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 4: more about how guys are going to go after, Him 1278 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 4: SO i go tatoosas the third cool, okay and Then. 1279 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 2: Pitchers i've stood by, This i'll continue to stand by. 1280 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,439 Speaker 2: IT i think the three guys that run the league 1281 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 2: for the next, Decade Paul, Skeens Uri perez And Miami 1282 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Andrew paynter In, philly those are my. THREE i went. 1283 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 4: SKIINGS i still Think scooble might just be running. 1284 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 2: SHIT i get. 1285 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 4: It and Then Garrett, Crochet, sure. 1286 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah THAT i. 1287 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,919 Speaker 3: LOVE i love the young, guys BUT i just. 1288 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Think about pitching age two one o two From crochet 1289 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: on the other side of thirty might be ninety. 1290 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 4: Eight it could, be and he might just continue to 1291 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 4: evolve and still be. Disgusting SO i ury's tough to 1292 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 4: overlook in this, case really, hard really tough. Omission But 1293 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 4: crochet is still being just pretty much, thirty just like 1294 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 4: maybe just turning thirty. 1295 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 3: ONE i like his. 1296 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 4: Chances scoop is probably One i'm the most nervous about 1297 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 4: giving some of the injury, history and he's gonna be 1298 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 4: closer to thirty. Three, yeah that's WHERE i could see 1299 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 4: maybe a, painter one of these younger guys showing. 1300 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 2: It but we talk about it with prospects all the. 1301 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 4: Time sometimes these guys are just elite prospects and they 1302 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 4: end up just being really good twos and it's, like, 1303 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 4: shit So i'll stick with the. 1304 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 2: Trio and that's Where i'm starting to get with. Job 1305 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 2: like the fastball is just nobody's swinging and missing at 1306 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,439 Speaker 2: the fastball right, now And i'm, Like, okay you could 1307 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: be awesome, too but is there an ace in? There 1308 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 2: time will? 1309 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 3: Tell and he's been, great. 1310 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 4: Like he's you, know the last adding wasn't fantastic against The, 1311 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 4: astros but he's really kind of settled in and looking 1312 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 4: like that budding young good. 1313 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Two but, yeah. 1314 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 4: He's not in that, CONVERSATION i don't, think because there's 1315 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 4: not quite enough fastball with. There fastball with is how 1316 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,320 Speaker 4: you get there for the most, part. 1317 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 2: Right AND i Think Painter uri And schemes can absolute 1318 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 2: be there with. It do you have a reliever or? 1319 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 2: NO i didn't have a. Reliever relievers so tough because 1320 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 2: it's so. Volatile, YEAH i just didn't have. ONE I i. 1321 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 4: Thought, like as long as his arms attached to his 1322 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 4: body Like Mason, miller, sure yeah he will be thirty. One, 1323 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 4: sure there's just the arm TALENT i think it might be. 1324 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Unmatched how old Is chapman going to be at that, 1325 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 2: point Because i'll. 1326 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 4: Think about, that like if he was still pitching at 1327 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 4: the peak of his, Abilities, yeah maybe he's still could 1328 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 4: could get. There But, CHAPMAN i THINK i bet on 1329 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 4: him still being what we're seeing now in five. Years 1330 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 4: but it's. 1331 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 2: Still throwing a hundred and five at forty two years. 1332 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 4: Old, YEAH i don't know if there's another another option. 1333 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 2: THERE i don't think there. Is. Martinez Maybe martinez could 1334 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 2: BE i Think kirkering is still ticking, up LIKE i 1335 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 2: Think kirkering is absolutely. 1336 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 4: Disgusting, yeah so, YEAH i don't think THAT. Dh we 1337 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 4: didn't really even. 1338 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 2: Do but do give me you're done easy to hit. Forever, 1339 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 2: yeah they're probably Go tani. Two we're six years into 1340 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 2: that deal at that. Point, okay two more. Questions this 1341 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: one really. Easy in our Two instagram, Questions Kyle stelter, 1342 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 2: asked who Is Luis Robert junior at this? Point it's 1343 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 2: a great tech, Mean, kyle that's a really good. QUESTION 1344 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 2: i was. THINKING i was looking at his contract. Structure 1345 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 2: he's got a club option at eight point three million 1346 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 2: dollars next year for The White. Sox The White sox 1347 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 2: are absolutely picking that. Up but say they, didn't what 1348 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 2: does he sign a one year ten million dollar? 1349 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 4: Deal probably gets more than that on a one Year. 1350 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 2: But, SO, i, LIKE i have no idea what he. 1351 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 3: IS i don't know. 1352 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 4: Either it's it'll be literally one of those situations where 1353 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 4: it's like truly in the value is in the eyes 1354 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 4: of the, uh of the, bos the, consumer where it's 1355 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 4: just whatever the market sets, out we don't even know 1356 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 4: what it's going to set, out, Right LIKE I that's 1357 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,919 Speaker 4: that's where we're at. Here he is providing some value 1358 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 4: on the base. Path see he is defending all right 1359 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 4: and those. Things BUT i mean. 1360 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: He's in in one seventy so. 1361 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 4: He's been better of. LATE i JUST i don't know 1362 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 4: who he. IS i don't know it because the further 1363 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 4: away we get from it, HERE i don't know how 1364 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 4: much more CONFIDENCE i have OR i did not. 1365 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 3: MORE i don't. 1366 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 4: KNOW i don't know IF i have any confidence that 1367 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 4: he's going to ever be That Louise robert that we 1368 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 4: Saw and what year was that, NOW i can't even 1369 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 4: remember twenty. 1370 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 2: THREE i think it was twenty, three twenty Three. 1371 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 3: ROBERT i DON'T i don't. 1372 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 4: Know it's especially if he if he doesn't do it this, YEAR. 1373 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 2: I don't need to see. HIM i need to see 1374 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 2: him play a month in a uniform that is in 1375 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 2: a White sox. UNIFORM i just need to know if 1376 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 2: this Is Luise robert right now or if this is 1377 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 2: a team that's tracking for forty wins. Again and that's the. 1378 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 4: Thing is he seems pretty checked out a lot of 1379 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 4: the Games i'm, watching AND i get it like he's 1380 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 4: just been kind of stuck. 1381 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 3: There the approach is not as. 1382 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 4: Egregiously, bad like he's cut the chase actually down to 1383 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 4: twenty nine, percent which is the first time in his 1384 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 4: entire big league career that his chase has been below 1385 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 4: thirty five, Percent SO i mean that is, Encouraging but 1386 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 4: then why is that not resulting and better? 1387 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 3: Numbers? 1388 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 4: Offensively his whiff is, down why is he not? Producing 1389 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 4: he's still hitting the ball, hard so maybe there's better 1390 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 4: results on the. Way but right, now in terms of 1391 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 4: who he, IS i think he's one of baseball's most frustrating. 1392 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Players and If i'm trying to define it at this, 1393 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 4: POINT i think it's a glove first, out like a 1394 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 4: glove first center fielder until proven, otherwise a glove first 1395 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 4: centerfielder who's gonna run into some home runs and give 1396 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 4: you some value on the base. 1397 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Pats so he's a Glorified Jose. Siri, yeah, yeah that's. 1398 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 4: Crazy is what is he doing that's different Than Jose? 1399 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 2: SIRI i don't. KNOW i guess not striking out forty 1400 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 2: percent of the, time that's only. Thirty, yeah that's oh my. 1401 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,799 Speaker 2: Gosh that's like a gut check for so many. People 1402 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 2: that's a good check for, me just to realize that 1403 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 2: he's a slightly better version Of Jose siri right, now. 1404 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 4: With the potential to be better than, that but. 1405 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,759 Speaker 2: With the potential to Be. Buxton he's somewhere in Between 1406 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 2: Byron buxton And Jose siri right. Now. 1407 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,799 Speaker 4: YEAH i think that's the perfect way of describing. 1408 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 2: It, man that's really. Unfortunate, okay let's end on a 1409 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 2: positive note. Here last question has to do with aces 1410 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i brought something up on The tuesday. Show Jackson 1411 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 2: job not That Jackson job On instagram, asked based On tuesday's, 1412 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 2: episode who are the current aces In Major League? Baseball 1413 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 2: peter was effectively making the argument that there are thirty 1414 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 2: like every guy that leads a rotation is AN. Ace 1415 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 2: AND i pushed, back and he, said what do you? 1416 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 2: Mean AND i, SAID i think they are only about 1417 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 2: fifteen aces In Major League baseball right. Now and if 1418 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 2: that AND i DEFINE ace as if this guy's on 1419 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,360 Speaker 2: the mound for my, TEAM i feel really good about 1420 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 2: winning a one nothing. Game, YEAH i. 1421 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 4: Look at, it, like, yeah it's the number one starter 1422 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 4: on to me a top ten. Rotation i've actually talked 1423 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 4: about this with scouts, before and like just because that 1424 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 4: word can get used in write ups and stuff like, 1425 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 4: that AND i was just thinking about it and trying 1426 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 4: to get some perspective because, like how many guys SHOULD 1427 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 4: i say could HAVE ace? Upside and we talked about 1428 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 4: with the top one hundred, list like there's stretches where 1429 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 4: nobody on the top one hundred list is or maybe 1430 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 4: one or two, guys, yeah that you're even projecting as AN. 1431 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 4: ACE I the most frequent ANSWER i got was that 1432 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 4: at any given, time feel like there's about ten to 1433 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 4: twelve players that could be qualified as AN ace In 1434 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 4: Major League. Baseball, OKAY i reach think. 1435 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 2: A little bit on Some, yeah there are some guys 1436 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 2: that have kind of been grandfathered into, Acehood LIKE i 1437 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 2: think About sandy al ace hood ace. Hood, yeah there we, 1438 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 2: Go Howard. 1439 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 4: County, underrated underrated. 1440 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 2: Catalog ace. Hood, okay well that's two, words one word. 1441 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 2: ACEHOOD i think about guys that have kind of been 1442 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 2: grandfathered into That sale has been grandfathered. IN i Think 1443 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 2: sale is a fringe ace at this. Point right, Now 1444 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 2: sandy Al contra of The marlins has been grandfathered into ace. 1445 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 2: Hood you, know you always say The ace of The, 1446 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 2: marlins and that's absolutely, True but right now he's not 1447 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 2: pitching like. One SO i think ACE i think that 1448 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 2: term is actually a bit more malleable then a lot 1449 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 2: of people will give it credit. FOR i think there 1450 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 2: are a couple of aces on the injured list right, 1451 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 2: now to be, honest Like strider on THE I L 1452 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 2: strider's an. Ace Garrett cole is AN. ACE i think 1453 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 2: McClanahan is AN ace when he's on the. Mount so 1454 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 2: those are the guys THAT i kind of give ace hood. Too, 1455 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 2: yeah AND i agree with that at the peak of their. 1456 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 4: Powers but If i'm going into this year and saying, 1457 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 4: like are these guys gonna be? Aces like are they 1458 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 4: going to pitch as? Aces AT i. DON'T i don't 1459 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 4: know if the answer would be. 1460 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, like do you do you. 1461 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 4: Look at do you look At Garrett cole when he 1462 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 4: comes back next next year at some point and, say, 1463 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 4: like he's gonna pitch like a top ten pitcher in the. 1464 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 2: GAME i, do just because he's like earned that level 1465 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 2: of respect from. 1466 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 4: Me, yeah that's, fair that's fair that there are some 1467 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 4: grandfathered in, ACES i, guess which is an interesting wrinkle 1468 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 4: in the. Conversation but aside from the guys that are grandfathered, in. 1469 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah Sale Sandy cole are the ones that are kind 1470 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 2: of grandfathered into me and. 1471 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 3: Then wheelers grandfathered. In but he's still doing. 1472 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 2: It but he's still. There So i'm just gonna run 1473 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 2: you through my list AND i Think i'm fifteen right, 1474 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 2: now and you just say yes or. 1475 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 3: No, okay. 1476 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 2: Schemes, yeah he's AN ace Schoolb, Yeah Crochet, Yep wheeler, Yep. 1477 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 2: Yamamoto he's getting. THERE i. DON'T i don't think he's there. 1478 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 2: Yet INTERESTING i, say, yes he's. THERE i. 1479 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 3: DON'T i. 1480 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 4: DON'T i think he will Be, okay need a little. 1481 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 2: More how about From bervaldez and the logan. 1482 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 4: Web logan Web, yes because he takes the ball every 1483 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 4: fifth day and throw you a shitload of innings from. 1484 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,759 Speaker 2: He's got to be one of undred and seventy innings 1485 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 2: at are two. 1486 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 4: Nine, YEAH i think he's got a four this, year 1487 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 4: he's through four or. 1488 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 2: Five, yeah he's an. Ace he's an. 1489 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 4: Ace he's got to be the softest ace, though of 1490 01:12:55,439 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 4: the one so. Far how About reagan's M, no he 1491 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 4: pitched like. 1492 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 2: It last, Year, like, hmmm. 1493 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 4: It's it's, tough it's, tough he's. Fringe i'm gonna say, No, Like, 1494 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 4: OKAY i love, him but, NO i think he's a 1495 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 4: really good picture where you at on de Grum so 1496 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,600 Speaker 4: he just grandfathered into as he might be grandfathered, in 1497 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 4: and he might be all the way back now, okay 1498 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 4: but he might be, Back So i'll Give i'll give 1499 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 4: him a. Nod are you still Calling sale And ace 1500 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 4: or is he grandfathered? 1501 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 2: In he's grandfathered? In. OKAY a couple other names that intrigued, 1502 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Me Max. 1503 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 4: Freed, damn he's pitching like? 1504 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 2: It isn't he pitching like? It BUT i would. 1505 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 4: Say the WAY i look at, it, too is like 1506 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 4: if you plugged these guys into the other twenty nine. 1507 01:13:54,760 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 4: Rotations they need to pretty much be the number ONE 1508 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 4: co one and every other. Rotation, FREED i think is 1509 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,639 Speaker 4: there with a two four eight and twenty twenty, two 1510 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 4: and when he's healthy of two five five and twenty twenty, 1511 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 4: three and, yeah, YEAH i would Say, freed it's gonna 1512 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 4: be a coace and pretty much every other. 1513 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Rotation how about how About Hunter? 1514 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 4: Green, NO i love, him but, no he could be 1515 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 4: he could get, There BUT i think he's. CLOSE i 1516 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 4: think he's there's a lot of rotation still where Like 1517 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 4: i'm taking the like proven commodity a little bit more 1518 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 4: as the, one and he's just the elite. 1519 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 2: Too gotcham a couple other names that jump out to, 1520 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 2: Me Corbyn, Burns is he still? 1521 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 4: THERE I i don't. 1522 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 3: Know what do you THINK i? 1523 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 2: Leaned, YES i think there's a a. 1524 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 4: Few rotations where he's comfortably flanking the top. 1525 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 2: Guy. Wow, yeah aces is LIKE i think it's. 1526 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 4: A really, really really really selective. Term, yeah but he 1527 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 4: might be a little grandfathered, in as crazy as that, 1528 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 4: sounds BECAUSE i think so two four three two nine, 1529 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 4: Four i'm going to ra by year three three, nine 1530 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 4: two nine. Two so HE'S i think he still earns that. 1531 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 4: THOUGH i think you give him the benefit of the. 1532 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 4: Doubt and then how good he's been in the. 1533 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 2: Past and two guys THAT i have really close and 1534 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 2: maybe In Logan gilbert And, seattle uh And Michael king 1535 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 2: In San. 1536 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 4: Diego king is really really freaking. 1537 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,200 Speaker 2: GOOD i think those guys are both getting. CLOSE i 1538 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 2: Lean gilbert Over. 1539 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 3: King GILBERT i. 1540 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 4: Think is on his. WAY i think by mid season 1541 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 4: could pretty much be in that. Conversation, well, uh, well, 1542 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 4: forum we'll. See, yeah that's that's the. Problem, see it 1543 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 4: depends on how much time he Misses. King he pitches 1544 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 4: like it. Sometimes but we're only a year and a 1545 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 4: half into this, thing and there's like he has some 1546 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 4: of the best starts you'll, see and then there's there's 1547 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 4: some some rough ones mixed in. THERE I i don't 1548 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,640 Speaker 4: know if there's something about even though the numbers are 1549 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 4: probably on par with a lot of other, guys there's 1550 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 4: just something just shy of ace hood for. 1551 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 2: ME i. Think, Yeah so conservatively we're saying scooble, Schemes, Crochet, Wheeler, 1552 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 2: freed we say, yes web And fromber we say. Yes 1553 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 2: De gram is, Eight sale is. Nine Cole sandy is 1554 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 2: ten Eleven yama, MODEL i am gonna throw in there 1555 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 2: and say. Twelve AND i. 1556 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 4: Don't like the disc even Though i'm the one that 1557 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 4: was like Keeping framber all the praise and making the 1558 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 4: case for, Him LIKE i don't trust him LIKE i 1559 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,640 Speaker 4: trust these other guys, Though and that might be just 1560 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:50,759 Speaker 4: a me, Thing AND i don't. 1561 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 2: THINK i Trust web LIKE i trust these. Guys AND 1562 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 2: i think that's just. 1563 01:16:53,320 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 4: Like, Beholder, like, yeah there's just something about like when 1564 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 4: you give that guy the ball in a playoff, game 1565 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 4: you either have the advantage or you're matching. 1566 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 3: Their perceived. 1567 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 4: Advantage AND i tell you got to have the advantage 1568 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 4: almost ninety five percent of the time when that guy's 1569 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,000 Speaker 4: on the. Bump AND i don't know IF i feel 1570 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 4: that way About. FRAMBER i don't know IF i quite 1571 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 4: feel that way About web as solid as he, is 1572 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 4: as like a regular season valuable. 1573 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,720 Speaker 2: Pitcher, yeah so, dude it's a really good. 1574 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 4: Pating people probably have takes all over on. 1575 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 2: That. YEAH i want to hear. Those, yeah, yeah let's 1576 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,440 Speaker 2: say to the YouTube comments and wherever in our discord, 1577 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 2: again like we want to hear all of. That so 1578 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 2: that's what we. Got that's Your friday mailbag for you 1579 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 2: and this was. Awesome you got anything, else that's it for. 1580 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 4: Me i'm looking forward to giving you MY f one. Recap, 1581 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,600 Speaker 4: yes that'd be great to see WHAT i thought of. 1582 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 4: That i'll be, Honest i'll try to go in with 1583 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 4: an open. 1584 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Mind hehod in The Miami Grand prix Wins a said 1585 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 2: might be. There, yeah he might, Actually so there we. 1586 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 2: Go all, right, folks have a great. Weekend we will 1587 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 2: talk to you next. Week