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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your Man, nam

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Speaker 1: G Marcus Grand still masking and socially distancing. We're coming

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Speaker 1: up on a year at this HomeOS Man, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe it. Um alongside Michael f Floria. We got producer

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Speaker 1: Steve with us as well. We took the week off, Floria.

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Speaker 1: How was your week off? Did you do anything special? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did. I went down to Lahoya for a few days,

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Speaker 1: so that's like a beach town by San Diego. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was really cool. I got to go jet skiing

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Speaker 1: It was pretty cold, so I I cut it a

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Speaker 1: And then the rest of the week just kind of relaxed. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Watched the Super Bowl in Lahoya. That wasn't as pleasant

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Speaker 1: week off. How was yours? We will yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl in a second. Yeah. I had

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Speaker 1: a good week. I you know what, I just I

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Speaker 1: do anything football related. After watching the Super Bowl, um. If.

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Speaker 1: I spent very little time on social media as well,

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Speaker 1: which is very refreshing. I recommend it for people if

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Speaker 1: you can do that. UM. I checked every once in

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Speaker 1: a while. I think I might have tweeted maybe three

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Speaker 1: times all week long, but generally I was was pretty

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Speaker 1: hands off of Twitter, and I feel refreshed. And then

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Speaker 1: I came back to it on Monday, um and started

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Speaker 1: strolling again with immediately like I hate myself, Um, why

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Speaker 1: did I do this? But for the part, it was

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Speaker 1: a good week. I spent a lot of time reading

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Speaker 1: and catching up on books and movies and all that

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Speaker 1: So let's let's get to this. Because we didn't obviously

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Speaker 1: talk about the super Bowl since we weren't around last week.

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Speaker 1: I know that the last thing we did on our

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Speaker 1: last show was to give our super Bowl predictions. And uh,

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Speaker 1: like a good producer, Steve kept the receipts. Um, and

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Speaker 1: so you you you have you have a audio record

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Speaker 1: of of what we chose the super Bowl, don't you.

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Speaker 1: I don't have them for everyone. UM, one of us

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Speaker 1: I thought were particularly close. UM. So when I have

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Speaker 1: a record of at so I was gonna give you,

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Speaker 1: give you this, um, this fight. You have a score

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Speaker 1: in mind. I did not prep a score, but let's

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Speaker 1: just come up with one off the top of my head.

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Speaker 1: So let's say fucking years, we'll get thirty four. I

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Speaker 1: will give the Chiefs ten, all right, all right? I

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Speaker 1: was off by like three points one. Uh, the rest

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Speaker 1: of you not so much. Yeah, that's not quite how

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Speaker 1: I remember it. But but well played, well play. This

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Speaker 1: is what happened. When you the producer, you control the audio,

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Speaker 1: you can do this sort of thing. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how to do editing. That's just a straight rip obviously

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Speaker 1: for what I do. We all we all picked the Chiefs. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so we all end up looking for at least we

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Speaker 1: just like, obviously the game has been a long past

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Speaker 1: you know, your thoughts, Steve, start with you. Just your

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Speaker 1: down there in Tampa. Man, it was it was exciting

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Speaker 1: greatest throws of all time they get dropped with it

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a bummer. Um, seeing Tampa

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Speaker 1: trophy than she rights. Right, He's got seven, He's won

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Speaker 1: seven of them, like, you know, let it go, no one,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. What what did you? What did you think

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes family. I'm not a Chiefs fan by they stretch,

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Speaker 1: I guess is saying something. But it just came at

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Speaker 1: the worst time. Kudos to the Bucks defense for getting

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Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting that the Chiefs were

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Speaker 1: But I was still just just floored and how dominant

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Speaker 1: congrats to the Buccaneers. I think I know to Buccaneers fans.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations to both of you. Um, you're super Bowl win.

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Speaker 1: So we've got I mean, look, the wide receiver is

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Speaker 1: didn't say he had a great year, Like I just

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00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 1: don't think that's possible. Um. The question is whether or

427
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: not he's still in Pittsburgh. I think that that's gonna

428
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: be That's gonna have a lot to do with it.

429
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: But I do think there is I can tell myself

430
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: a story where Juju, especially if he goes somewhere else,

431
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: starts to become a target months there and starts to

432
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: be more than a glorified tied in, which would help

433
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: his value immensely next year. I I think that is

434
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: a great call. Um. So I think like d J.

435
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: Moore and Cooper Cup fit that list, but they're gonna

436
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of hype. I think up with Stafford

437
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Now and d J. Moore just everyone loving him. Um.

438
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: I think a good one is Odell Beckham Jr. If

439
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of people have Odell fatigue. And

440
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: if he's going in like the fifth, sixth round, sign

441
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: me up, like he is just so talented that I

442
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: will still get sucked back in at that price. If

443
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: he's going in like you know, the third, fourth round

444
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: and people start hyping him up again, then I'll be out.

445
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: But I think O'Dell, there's gonna be a lot of

446
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: Adel fatigue and fantasy this year. I think that's a

447
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: perfect description. I do. And he's a name that I

448
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: think at least that I forget every once in a while.

449
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: Because he got hurt, you know, so early in the year,

450
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: we didn't see him pretty much all year. Uh. And

451
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: I do think that that that Odell fatigue is real.

452
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that just I don't

453
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: like the guy, uh And for that reason, you know,

454
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: I feel like he's overrated. They feel like, you know,

455
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: his career peaked with the catch, which was his rookie season. Um.

456
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: And so I do think he's going to kind of

457
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: hang around on draft boards. And I think fifth round

458
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: is a legitimate price for for Odell Beckham. And if

459
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: that's what it is, sure I would, uh, I take

460
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: the risk on that the zero Wade receiver strategy. He

461
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: because he can easily be a wide receiver one if

462
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: he is healthy, and you get him in a fifth

463
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: round and a nice discount you and he can give

464
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: you even top fifteen numbers. You've missed out on nothing

465
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: by waiting at the Wade receiver position. Absolutely true. Um, alright,

466
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: So along that line, and you know, combined with the

467
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: fact that the the biggest you know, Internet news recently

468
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: has been all the meme stocks. You know, uh, you

469
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: know everybody who jumped in on game stop or a

470
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: MC uh you know any by what did you did

471
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: you get in? Were you a Wall Street Bets guy?

472
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Are you waiting for the tindeman to come? You? Have

473
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: you followed into that? I did not buy I was

474
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: way too late to GameStop RAMC. I did try to

475
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: get in on the Dodge coin, and uh, it's just

476
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: kind of been very stagnant since I bought it. Yeah,

477
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: I I got a little bit of a m C.

478
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: I lost forty bucks and decided that was enough. Um,

479
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: I will I will gladly lose my forty bucks and

480
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: I will walk away from it. There. Um. Yeah, you

481
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: pretty much learned quickly if it is or is not

482
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: for you. Uh so that that But because of that,

483
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: it made me think of uh, some some wide receivers

484
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: out there that if we're gonna go along this theme,

485
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: whether you're you're gonna buy, sell or hold. Um, I

486
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: think that's definitely for you dynasty folks out there. I

487
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: think has a lot more impact than necessarily you know,

488
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: redraft leads or whatever. But I came up with five guys, um,

489
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: and then you can give me your thoughts on if

490
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna buy, sell or hold some of these guys

491
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: heading into the first one is is Adam Feeling? I mean,

492
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: after watching the touchdowns kept him afloat, but justin Jefferson

493
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: became the star attraction there. Uh, what are we feeling

494
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: about Adam Feeling next year? I was very high into

495
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling coming into this season, but it pains me

496
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: to say that I would sell him after First, he's

497
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty one years old next year. That's getting

498
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: up there for a wide receiver. And then, like you said,

499
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: Marcus career high fourteen touchdowns, that that made him a

500
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver one this year, you cannot rely on fourteen times,

501
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: like if that number drops to eight next year, or

502
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: even lower like that is a huge hit to his numbers,

503
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: and then he had less targets, targets, share, received receptions,

504
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: receiving yards, and fantasy points than Justin Jefferson as a

505
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: rookie who had no preseason So I very much so

506
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: think that one on Justin Jefferson is the alpha there

507
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: and feeling will be a very good number two wide receiver.

508
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: But this might be your last chance to sell him

509
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: off as a wide receiver one in dynasty. My first

510
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: thought was hold that maybe you can hold on and

511
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: and but but you know, you just reminded me of

512
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: the fourteen touchdowns and that that being the career or

513
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: high coming at age thirty, it seems really really hard

514
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 1: to duplicate, even even in an offense that is fairly

515
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: concentrated like that. I mean, we we know, unless something

516
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: weird happens, that most of the targets are still going

517
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: to go through Thelan and Jefferson. But um, you're right,

518
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: the the decline is coming, and I think, especially in

519
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: this situation, I would rather sort of move on a

520
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: year too early than a year too late. So so

521
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: maybe it is so I'm changing my thought from hold

522
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: uh to sell on this one, Um, so Mike Evans.

523
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: We both thought that, you know, this was the year

524
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: that Mike Evans is gonna fall off a little bit.

525
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I I I really had had bought in even more

526
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: heavily to Chris Godwin this past year. Midway through the

527
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: season though, it became apparent that Evans was the guy

528
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady was going to making plays with. Does

529
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: that continue? Do we do we even get more excited

530
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: with a you know, a full year under their belts together,

531
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: or or is is Brady gonna distribute the wealth little

532
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: bit more next year? I think he's a hold only

533
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: because he is for me, he is such a hard

534
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: player to figure out, like he has all the physical

535
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: ability and he's the only player in NFL history with

536
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: a thousand yards in his first in each of his

537
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: first seven seasons, beating Randy Moss's record, So like, yeah,

538
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: he is amazing. He's a great talent. But judge like

539
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: doing he at thirteen touchdowns which clearly helps him. And

540
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: like Marcus, I know we were low on on Evans

541
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: and I had him outside of my top fifteen and

542
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: he finished his wide receiver Levin, which was worse than

543
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: he was last year, Like he definitely was worse, but

544
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: those touchdowns really saved him because it could have been

545
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: as bad as we expected. He had a career low

546
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: and in air yards per game, he was over a

547
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty with Jamis Winston per game in the

548
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: last two years. Eighty three with Tom Brady, hundred and

549
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: nine targets was a career low. He had a career

550
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: low in receiving yards per game, uh in receptions per game,

551
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: so it really was just the touchdowns really saving him.

552
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: He barely broke a thousand yards. I to me, I

553
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: think he's a borderline wide receiver one, maybe high end

554
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver two, which is I think what he was

555
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of being valued at coming into this year. So

556
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hold. But he's a tough one to

557
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: figure out. He's a tough one to figure out. I

558
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: I came into this past year saying, you know, I

559
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: was I was out of it, that he was not

560
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: going to be a top ten receiver. But I also

561
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: said that I was too scared to drop him below

562
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: my top twelve. So I think I had him at

563
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: twelve mostly because I was a chicken. So you know,

564
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: you ended up at eleven. So it was fine. Um,

565
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: But I mean I will tell you that after the

566
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: first two or three weeks of the season, I wasn't

567
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: really sure about it either, because I mean he was,

568
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: um yeah, he was. He was that goal line guy

569
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: and that was kind of it, and and he wasn't

570
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: really doing a whole lot else. And eventually they started,

571
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, using him more as a full service kind

572
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: of wide receiver. But I'm sort of with you. I

573
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: still think Chris Godwin um is maybe the guy there.

574
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, I think long term, he's the guy that

575
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: that is going to be the play maker in this offense.

576
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with Antonio Brown

577
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: if he comes back next year. UM. I know that

578
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: there is there's a Tyler Johnson hive that is out there,

579
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: uh in Fantasy Twitter. We know that because every time

580
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: he makes one of his like spectacular one handed sticky catches, Uh,

581
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: that hive starts buzzing a little bit. You know, who

582
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: knows whether or not he actually steps up and becomes

583
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: a bigger part of the offense. Um. So I am

584
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: a tentative hold on Mike Evans um. But but it

585
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: worries me because that's one that Uh, that could go

586
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: south to in a hurry, especially if Brandy decides he

587
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: wants to spread the ball around a little bit more

588
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: the next year. Next year. Um, Jerry Judy was the

589
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: next one on my list, and I really was sort

590
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: of torn about this one. I think my inclination is

591
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: to say bye just because he's a young player. Um,

592
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: he's a young player in an offense that has a

593
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: lot of weapons. Uh. And and it really depends on,

594
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: for me, the maturation of Drew Lock. But you look

595
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: at that receiving corps in Denver, what they can have

596
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: when they're healthy with Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy. Uh.

597
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: And you know Tim Patrick played really well at times

598
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: last year. kJ Hamler is still there. They've got no

599
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: offense as a tight end who can go out and

600
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: make plays there. They've got weapons there, so it might

601
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: be tough for Judy to really get a lion share

602
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: of the targets. But I'm gonna sort of side with

603
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: youth in this situation and believe that, you know, believe

604
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: is sort of what his ceiling potentially can be, and

605
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: say bye. But I will tell you that I'm not

606
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: confident about that because if Drew Lock continues to just

607
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: sort of benh um that I think Judy is going

608
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: to continue to be just kind of man. I don't

609
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: know your thoughts. I completely agree. I do think though

610
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: Judy is a bye right now, only because remember, like

611
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: last year was Judy Versedi Lamb, who is the best

612
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: receiver talent in this class, and Judy everyone hyped up

613
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: his route running and he showed us this year. I

614
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: am a stats guy first before, like what my eyes

615
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: tell me, I think you get value out of both.

616
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: But I just think I'm better with with numbers, and

617
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing good in the numbers for Jerry Judy at all.

618
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: But people who break down film and stuff all rape

619
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: about how great of a route runner he is, and

620
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: how you know, he's shown us everything at the NFL

621
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: level that they were hoping to see. So I'm willing

622
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: to give him another chance. But it's exactly what you said.

623
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't like Drew Lock. So that's why the fact

624
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: that the Broncos have been tied to other quarterbacks this

625
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: offseason and maybe upgrading the position I think is only

626
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: good things for Jerry Judy because he saw ninety three

627
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: targets from Drew Lock last year. Markets no one else

628
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: has more than seventy. The only issue is they completed

629
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: forty of those pasts. That is absolutely disgusting. Uh So,

630
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Jerry Judy that is the issue here.

631
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: I think it is all Drew Lock and either maybe

632
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Lock they upgrade him or or whatever. But if not,

633
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: it's not gonna cost you a whole lot to get

634
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Judy right now either. I don't think that's a that's

635
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: a good point. Um So, you're saying, if somehow the

636
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Broncos were able to swing a deal for Deshaun Watson,

637
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: it's it's to the moon, Jerry Judy, it is to

638
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the moon, all right. Uh So, then a guy that

639
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: he was sort of tied to in in the draft,

640
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs, who surprisingly, I think to a lot of people,

641
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: ended up being the first wide receiver off the board

642
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft last year. I don't think anybody

643
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: anticipated that happening. Um I just never felt like he

644
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: was a good fit in the Raider offense last year

645
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: and that the numbers sort of short sort of showed

646
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: that a little bit. And you talk about being a

647
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: stats guy, Um is that is that going to be

648
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: his future? Does he get better. What what happens? What?

649
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: What are you doing with with Henry Ruggs. I so

650
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: much like Mike Evans. He is a really hard one

651
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: to for me to figure out. I have him as

652
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: a hold only because he is so young and was

653
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: a first round pick. And we know that teams, you know,

654
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: they do tie value to the draft capital they give

655
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: up on players. But I agree with you, Marcus. I

656
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: think he was a terrible fit for the Raiders, like

657
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Judy would have been a much better

658
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: fit here and they had the opportunity to take him. Also,

659
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: how crazy is it that Ruggs, Judy, Devanta Smith, they

660
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: were all together in Alabama at the same time like

661
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: that receiving room is is something wild. But what concerns

662
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: me about Rugs is this past year Derek Carr did

663
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: take more shots down the field. The issue was they

664
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: weren't Henry Ruggs. They were to Nelson Aguilar. Ruggs was

665
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: five or fourteen on targets of twenty plus eight yards

666
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: for two five yards and two TVs. Aguilar was ten

667
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: of twenty four hundred and fifteen and six tds. He

668
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: was just the much better deep threat than Henry Ruggs.

669
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Plus we know Darren Waller is going to be the

670
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: unquestioned number one target in this offense. So I think

671
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: Rugs as of right now is more of a better

672
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: best ball pick. He'll have some big weeks if he

673
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: catches that long ball. But when is that gonna come?

674
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Is it gonna go to Nelson Glare? It's just hard

675
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: to figure out. The Maybe the most telling thing about

676
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs this season is that he was fifth on

677
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: the team in total targets. And we just spent the

678
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: year and part of this offseason so far lamenting how

679
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders don't throw the ball to Josh Jacobs enough,

680
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: how Josh Jacobs doesn't get as many targets as we want.

681
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: He still had more targets than Henry Ruggs. Like that

682
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: seems like a bad thing, Um, but I'm with you,

683
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: and that he's young, he was a first round pick.

684
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders really want to make this work.

685
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: At least Sill gonna give it another shot. It wasn't

686
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: look it wasn't like he was you know, injured all

687
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: season long. On that they're frustrated with him, or that

688
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: he was you know, a bad teammate or bad in practice.

689
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: He just didn't perform well on the field. I think

690
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: Jon Gruden, Mike Mayock, I think everybody there in Vegas

691
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: is willing to give him the shot to kind of

692
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: be the guy they think he can't be. And so

693
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: for that reason, I think you hold him. I don't

694
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: know that I'm I'm trying to pick him up in

695
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: spots because I just haven't seen enough and I'm still

696
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: still not convinced that he's a good fit for this offense.

697
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: But I'm willing to kind of wait it out at

698
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: least one more year. Now. If first, if we're still

699
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: having the same conversation this time next year, um, I

700
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: think I'm willing to walk away. But right now I'm

701
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: going to get another shot. Was it Dorial green Beckham?

702
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Was that the really fast wide receiver the Raiders reached

703
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: on like ten years ago? Yeah, which was another one

704
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: that was sort of weird for me. You know, I

705
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: just remember, um, somebody, No, it wasn't wasn't Greenham. He

706
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: took him over Cramptre, whoever it was. I believe that

707
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: we're having this conversation in a year about rugs markets,

708
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a name we're gonna hear throwing around

709
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I'm I'm going to google this. Darius

710
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Heyward Bay. That's who. That's it, Darius Heyward Bay. Uh.

711
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: And I remember because I remember somebody making the point

712
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: to me after they drafted him that you, if he's

713
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: so great, why is it that he never had these

714
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: bananas seasons at Maryland who played one of the more

715
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: wide open offenses in college football at the time, Maryland

716
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: was throwing the ball all over the place. Uh, It's

717
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: somehow DHB could never come up with like a huge

718
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: statistical season that probably should have been a red flag. Right. So,

719
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: uh so we'll see what happens. But right this is

720
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: this for me is a make or break year fantasy wise.

721
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: For Henry Ruggs. It doesn't happen this year. I'm just

722
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: not sure that it happens at least with the Raiders. Um.

723
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: The last one and I kind of showed my hand

724
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: on this one a little bit, was Laviska Chalt, because

725
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, I talked about how I liked him coming

726
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: into this past year, UM and how I thought he

727
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: had a good year under the circumstances in an offense

728
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: that could never find its footing. They went through a

729
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: number of quarterbacks down there in Jacksonville. UM, it was

730
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: an offense mostly built around James Robinson. But I'm gonna

731
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: say that I would I would kind of make lawisca

732
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: chenalta bye. I think, Um, I think what they did

733
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: with him, the fact that, look, there is no re

734
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: old dominant wide receiver there in Jacksonville. UM. You know,

735
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: I guess d J. Chart is kind of the closest

736
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: thing they got to it. But there are opportunities for

737
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: guys to go out and be playmakers in that offense.

738
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: And again, if they do what we expect and they

739
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: draft Trevor Lawrence, this offense instantly gets better. So I

740
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: don't I'm not saying Leavisco Sheld is gonna be a

741
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. I think he's still a low end

742
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: at best wide receiver to probably more of a flex guy.

743
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: But I like the upside and I'm I'm willing to

744
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, see if I can pick him

745
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: up in a couple of spots and just hope for

746
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: that upside to hit a little bit. Yeah, I completely agree.

747
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: I I have him as a by as well. I

748
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: think it is the worst kept secret in sports at

749
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: who the Jaguars are at number one? Like Urban Meyer

750
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: was watching Trevor Lawrence at his pro day as if

751
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: he was already his head coach UM, and there's so

752
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: like that duo to me is so much to get

753
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: excited for because Trevor Lawrence flicks the part and everyone

754
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: says he's the best quarterback prospects since Andrew Look and

755
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: then their offenses just flow together like Meyer is his

756
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: tenure with with Ohio State was running a ton of

757
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: three wide receiver sets, which is what Trevor Lawrences ran

758
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: in Clemson for his three seasons there. So I think

759
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: that they are going to be a very strong duo

760
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: together with Shark and Channel as the teams right now

761
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: at last as their top two past catching options, and

762
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot to get excited for their um And

763
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I think Marcus there if they don't get creative with Chanel,

764
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Because you can use this

765
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: guy all over the field. Uh. The only thing I'll

766
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: say is my my stance as of now continues to

767
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: be whichever one of these two Shark or Channel gets

768
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: more hype, I'm probably gonna just draft the other one.

769
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: That's probably that's probably a fair way to do it.

770
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: I still think I think Shark is gonna be the

771
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: guy that that people will most target, which is good

772
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: for the chult fans like me that I can sort

773
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: of wait a little bit hopefully on him next year. Uh.

774
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: And Steve just pointed this out. The the Jaguars twitter

775
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: account is already sort of tweeting as though Trevor Lawrence

776
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: is their guy. They're they're tweeting from the pro day,

777
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: first pro day complete. Um. But yeah, they're already all

778
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: over it, like, you know, like he's the guy. So

779
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: you get the Jets on the clock already pretty much.

780
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: Here's this is this is in a side. What's going

781
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: to be really frustrating is when the Jaguars are on

782
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: the clock and they use the entire clock still you know,

783
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: we're still gonna be sitting there waiting and they're gonna

784
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: use up the whole one of our fifteen minutes or

785
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and they're finally going to announce what

786
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: we all have known for months they were gonna do.

787
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the part that frustrates all of us, Like,

788
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: come on, since the Jets won their second game, we've

789
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: known that Trevor Lawrence is gonna end up in Jacksonville, Like,

790
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: let's just move on to the next Let's just go,

791
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: Let's just go, all right. So that's that's sort of

792
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I look at wide receivers. I mean, I'm sure we

793
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: will touch on this again too before the off season

794
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: is done. Especially I know when we get to the draft,

795
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: we'll talk some wide receivers too at that point. Um.

796
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: The other interesting thing that happened over this past week

797
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: the f CF started up, and I know we talked

798
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: about it. I think a couple of weeks ago. I

799
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: think I asked if you guys are gonna play FCF fantasy,

800
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: which I thought would be weird when you can sort of,

801
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, in theory, control the action, Like how do

802
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: you play fantasy on that? I don't know. Um, but

803
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: they had their first games, their inaccural weekend was this

804
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: past weekend, and Steve, I need you to get back

805
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: in here because you told us you you sat down

806
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: and watched a good chunk of it Florida. You said

807
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: you watched a little bit too, But but Steve, I

808
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: know you watched a good amount of it, and I

809
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: just want to get your takeaways from it. After what

810
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: you saw this weekend. I probably watched like the first

811
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ever of FCF football. Um, and uh, very interesting. Uh.

812
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: They did the whole like w W E style entrance

813
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: for the players. Made it feel kind of like it

814
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: a cool version of Arena Football League. I thought the

815
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: weirdest thing were some of the rules though, like the

816
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: offense of line and the defenses play two games back

817
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: to back for two different teams. They just swap out

818
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: jerseys like it's halftime, which is maybe not like a

819
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: healthy thing long term. I can't necessarily speak to that,

820
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: but honestly, the idea behind it seems like it's something

821
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: you could get into, almost a little bit like Madden

822
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: meets World of Warcraft meets the Arena Football League, because

823
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: it's pretty in depth. That's so I'm sorry, I'm I'm

824
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: stuck on the all time offensive and defensive lines right now. Um,

825
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: the whole defense, not the defensive line, the whole defense,

826
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: the whole defense. Yeah. Oh okay, So now, the one

827
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: thing I do know is that there's only there's one coach,

828
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: and like one position coach basically for because basically, like

829
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: all the all the wide receivers just worked with one

830
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach and all the quarterbacks worked with one

831
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: quarterback coach. Is not like each of the four teams

832
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: has an own. Yeah, and there's a weekly draft too,

833
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: so they changed teams every week. Really yeah, So it's

834
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: like if you're playing fantasy, like it's like hardcore really

835
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: in depth. You're voting on which player you have each week.

836
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: But it's like, I think it'd be tough to like

837
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: sit down and watch it's just a fan like one time.

838
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: So okay, so now you I mean you watched it

839
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: a little bit too, was well floor, I mean you're

840
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: does that that sounds like about what you you came

841
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: away from it. I had no idea that they switched

842
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: teams and that the old one was like that seems

843
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: like a huge disadvantage to whichever team has to place

844
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: second because their old line and defense, you're just gonna

845
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: be worn out. But uh, the thing I took away

846
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: from it is Johnny Manzel looked like a superhero. Um

847
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: what he was one for five? Well, I saw him

848
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: running and uh, he just scrambled from the pocket and

849
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: no one could At one point he was running backwards.

850
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: I was like, what what is going on here? But

851
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: he just looks fat, like the fastest guy on the field.

852
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: They're they're extra points are from a stool, which I

853
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: thought was was kind of weird. Yeah, so I saw,

854
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean I saw the you know, one Twitter video

855
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: of the the quarterback takes the ball off the stool

856
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: and what he's got three seconds to throw the ball

857
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: and try to you know, score the extra point. Um

858
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: where it's I mean, it literally is a seven on seven.

859
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a combine drill almost basically.

860
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: I got a senior Bowl drill watching the wide receiver

861
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: in the dB line up against each other. Um, so

862
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: were you guys having seen it? My first thought about

863
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: the future, the long term of this league is that

864
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: it's so I referred to all stuff like this as

865
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: slam ball, And I don't know if either of you

866
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: are familiar with remember slam ball. Slam Ball was slam

867
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Ball was great to watch at like eleven o'clock at

868
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: night from a bar. Right Like, if I were a

869
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: couple of beers in and I was out somewhere and

870
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: slam ball was on TV, I'm like, oh, hey, check

871
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: it out. Um. I don't think I ever just sat

872
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: down at home and watched slam Ball, and I feel

873
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: like that's what FCF is gonna be. It'll be fun.

874
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, and uh, you know, they're trying

875
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: to do different things and and trying to attract more

876
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: attention without directly competing with the NFL. But I always

877
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's also always going to be sort of

878
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: a novelty that does well at bars late at night,

879
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: like on a Friday or Saturday. And I am I weird. No.

880
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot like playing Madden. Right if

881
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: you are actually doing uh like you know you're you're

882
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: picking the plays, and right when do you play Madden?

883
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Like it's like Friday Saturday night at eleven twelve midnight. Uh,

884
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: so you're not You're not wrong in that sense. But

885
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: if you're not playing, I don't know. I can't get

886
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: into it. I mean it's well, look it's on Twitch, right,

887
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: they air their games on Twitch. Obviously that is that's

888
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: the audience they're going for. So I guess that's not

889
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: completely weird. No. I think you're right though. Market's like

890
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: on a Saturday night, you're not gonna get people to

891
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: sign into Twitch and sit down and watch one of

892
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: these games, But if it was on like late at

893
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: night or something, I'd probably throw it on. I watched

894
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of weird sports during like Quarantine, Like I

895
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: watched spike Ball, I watched the Ultimate Frisbee. There was

896
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: some car like just because there was nothing else on.

897
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Like I was like, if it was on, then I

898
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: definitely would have threw it on. Then I'm guilty of

899
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: watching a couple of Marble races, so I understand that. Um, alright,

900
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: So okay, Then Steve, having watched you know, fifteen twenty

901
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: minutes of it, would you watch it again? Only if

902
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: I and I signed up. But I caught myself because

903
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll get like kind of addicted to something and I

904
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: know would be risky. I signed up so that I

905
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: could do the level one voting for plays, which is

906
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: just run or pass. Okay, I was gonna ask. I

907
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: was gonna ask if I was gonna ask if you

908
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: called plays. But okay, alright, Yeah, you have to like

909
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: pass a bar to be allowed to call actual plays

910
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: the low bars runner pass like you have the pass

911
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: a test or something. Yes, you get like a score

912
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: that goes up every time you say something. You know

913
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: you pick the right play if you pick run and

914
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: if they've run for a touchdown, you get points. Then

915
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: you're out to pick like run left or run right.

916
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: You get enough points and you can pick like different

917
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: pitch or handoff. I would like, hail Mary, Hail Mary.

918
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: I'll let you do it, because you have to earn

919
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: points to do that. I would be like making up

920
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: other accounts for the other team and like just say

921
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: first and ten were punted. But yeah, they thought about

922
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: that unfortunately, so you can't do that, all right, Um huh,

923
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: all right. I really don't know what to say beyond that,

924
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: but I wish them the best of luck. I know that,

925
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: you know there are people out there trying to create

926
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: spring football, try and capitalize on the popularity of the NFL,

927
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: So hopefully this works. Um, I don't, like I said,

928
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a I don't have a real rooting

929
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: interest one way or another. But if it works, great,

930
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: If not, you know, we'll find something else to do

931
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: with our time. Not a doubt. Um. So I wanted

932
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: to end the show because we were off last week obviously,

933
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: and I know that a lot of you who listened

934
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: to this show are also uh fans of around the NFL.

935
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: Listened to that podcast and you know, watch what those

936
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: guys do. And UM, I would assume that by now, most,

937
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: if not all, of you know that that we lost

938
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Chris westling Um just before the Super Bowl. And like

939
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: I said, we weren't here last week, so we didn't

940
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: really get a chance to kind of share our thoughts.

941
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: I just you know, Wes and I did our employee

942
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: orientations on the same day. It was just the two

943
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: of us in the room talking to HR, watching videos.

944
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: But from from that moment on, I always sort of

945
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: felt that we at least had that connection. Um. But

946
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate over the last few years to

947
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of get to know Wes and and kind of

948
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: become friends with him. And um, everything that everybody has

949
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: said about him to this point is absolutely true. He

950
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: was one of the most genuine, caring people I've ever met. Um.

951
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Chris wasn't just smart, he was wise. UM. I don't

952
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: think I ever had an uninteresting conversation with him. Uh.

953
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: And even now, a little more than a week week

954
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: and a half removed from from his his passing, it's

955
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: still weird to think about him uh in the past tense. UM.

956
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: I yeah, I know the NFL media will never be

957
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: the same place without him. I know, uh that that

958
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: the a t N guys who I love dearly, who

959
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm i'm fans of friends with. UM, I know that

960
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: those guys will never be the same And uh, you

961
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: know we we already missed Chris. Uh we love him.

962
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: We love Lukisha, his wife and their kid, Lincoln, who's

963
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: just beautiful. Um. But but it's been it's been a

964
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: really surreal week without Chris westling here and um, you know,

965
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: it was amazing to get to know him. Um, it

966
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: will always be sad that he's He's just not here anymore.

967
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I got. Um, So I think

968
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: on that note, that's it. We're we're done. We appreciate

969
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Uh,

970
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: you know the drill. Tell through friends and tell through friends,

971
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: rate review, and remember how lucky we are to have

972
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: something that makes saying goodbye so hard. Be safe, to

973
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: care of yourselves, wear masks, and we'll see you next week.

974
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: Something is always lost in art or experience when you

975
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: analyze it. Mark Twain once he became a riverboat pilot

976
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: and learned the technical side of it the Mississippi River

977
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: was no longer beautiful for him. If I was to

978
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: hire a sportswriter, the first question I was gonna ask

979
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: him is, how do you reconcile the essential meaninglessness of sports?

980
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you reconcile watching young men banging

981
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: to each other and try to advance and inflate a

982
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: pigskin against mark territory. I mean, that's what you're doing.

983
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: How do you reconcile the importance of that? And I

984
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: think it's like Shakespeare's poems or Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. This

985
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: is going above and beyond. At its best, sports is

986
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: look at what humans can do