WEBVTT - #750 Packers Unscripted: Conquering the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from our studios at Lambeufield to talk about Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>Another Packers victory, this one twenty seven to nineteen over

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs, the defending Super Bowl champions come

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<v Speaker 1>to lambeau Field and the Packers are the ones triumphant.

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<v Speaker 1>Three straight wins for Green Bay, four of the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>last five in the win column. And I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were going to script the beginning of a

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<v Speaker 1>game and it wasn't going to when your defense is

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<v Speaker 1>facing a challenge like Patrick Mahomes and this Chiefs offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and if that script is not allowed to include you know,

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers and you know, a defensive touchdown like in Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving, having the Packers score two touchdowns on their

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<v Speaker 1>first two drives, having the Kansas City Chiefs held out

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<v Speaker 1>of the end zone on their first two drives, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're at the two minute warning heading into halftime

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<v Speaker 1>and that Patrick Mahomes has only gotten the ball twice.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't other than turnovers. You couldn't draw it up

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<v Speaker 1>any better.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't And the fact that by stopping them in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone it allowed you to keep a touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>off the board. Yeah, and I looked at this game

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<v Speaker 2>up until really going into the fourth quarter is like

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<v Speaker 2>just a fast break NBA game where it was offenses

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<v Speaker 2>moving the ball and defenses trying to make plays, and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately the Green Bay Packers didn't blink. They didn't blink

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<v Speaker 2>with Jordan Love under center his what fourth game now

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<v Speaker 2>of the season with three touchdowns and no interceptions. My

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<v Speaker 2>headline for Insider Inbox was one of the first things

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote when I was putting that together for Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>was Jordan Love was at his best when it's team

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<v Speaker 2>needed it the most, and to have the players around

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<v Speaker 2>him pick him up. Romeo Dobbs with one of the

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<v Speaker 2>sickest catches.

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<v Speaker 1>That I've ever seen, crazy play.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially given the circumstances. AJ Dillon running hard and then defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to withstand the early blows from Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>and Travis Kelcey and when they need to make plays

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<v Speaker 2>in the second half, they did that. Cream Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>picked up by far their biggest victory of the season

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<v Speaker 2>against the Detroit Lions, and it took them just over

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<v Speaker 2>a week to better that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the run that the Packers are on right now

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty impressive when you look at you look at

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<v Speaker 1>how far this team has come. You know, a Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night loss on the road in Vegas that was extremely

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating against a Raiders team that was not playing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you come off the bye week and you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Denver and you're playing a Broncos team that, granted

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<v Speaker 1>is playing much better now, but was not playing well

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and the Packers were not able to

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<v Speaker 1>get that victory either. Now, suddenly from two and five

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<v Speaker 1>and three and six after a frustrating loss in Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 1>one that, as we have talked about, was where some

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<v Speaker 1>signs were being shown. The Pittsburgh loss had that had

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<v Speaker 1>a familiar ending, but that entire game was not the

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<v Speaker 1>same script, was not the same story as some of

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<v Speaker 1>those other frustrating losses. That's where things started to turn.

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<v Speaker 1>And now from being two and five and three and

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<v Speaker 1>six to being six and six. And to me, this game,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the Packers offense, this game was

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<v Speaker 1>about the command that Jordan Love had I mean in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of in terms of the checks at the line,

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<v Speaker 1>whether he was under center in the shotgun. I made

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<v Speaker 1>a comment in Insider Inbox that to me, when AJ

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<v Speaker 1>Dillon's pounding out the yarts, he that he is and

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<v Speaker 1>he's done this throughout his career. Now late in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>he really is that big, powerful, cold weather, bad weather

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<v Speaker 1>running back, and the Packers are using that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>When a running back is pounding out those kind of yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we see Jordan Love running play action, he

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<v Speaker 1>just looks like he's got command of the whole field

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<v Speaker 1>in the pocket off of that playfake when you know

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the defense playing you. Honestly, the pass protection

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<v Speaker 1>is holding up, and the way the Packers are able

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<v Speaker 1>to push the ball downfield right now and then have

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<v Speaker 1>those checkdowns available when Love needs them, the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>in a really good place.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a Pro Football Focus membership at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not gifted in terms of breaking down the

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<v Speaker 2>game analytically as you are. But I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what I saw with my eyes on Sunday in two

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<v Speaker 2>things that stood out to me the most. With the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive side of the ball quickly to touch on AJ

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<v Speaker 2>Dillon because I wrote about him in our post game

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<v Speaker 2>key to the game. Yeah, eighteen carries, seventy three yards.

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<v Speaker 2>He averaged four point one yards per carry. Mike, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what his longest carry was in this game?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to I guess seven yards, ten yards.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten He came in the fourth quarter. Okay, So when

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<v Speaker 2>you average four point one yards per care and your

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<v Speaker 2>longest carry is ten yards, what does that tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you that you're not going backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you're grinding it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not being tackled for a loss. You're not putting

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in second and tens or second in eleven situations.

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<v Speaker 2>The green Bay Packers steadily moved the football early on

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<v Speaker 2>seven carries for thirty yards on the opening drive in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter. One of the big reasons why Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay executed their four minute offense and were able to

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<v Speaker 2>get those extra field goals was because of the way

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<v Speaker 2>that ag Dillon was running the football exceptional. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing I loved most was how I've opened up the

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<v Speaker 2>play action game and everything started building off one another.

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<v Speaker 2>The end a rounds, the jet motions, they were almost

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<v Speaker 2>like the Aaron Jones, so to speak. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>the contrast to the power running style of aj Dillon. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you got the play action game going, you

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<v Speaker 2>could just see Kansas City's defense especially want to be

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<v Speaker 2>as aggressive as they are, but fuddled and probably my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite image of this season so far, and we've started

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<v Speaker 2>to see it in recent weeks because you can see

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<v Speaker 2>not from an overconfidence standpoint, but you can see Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love feeling himself. You can see him enjoying it. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see him having fun out there. It's when they've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten some of these plays off play action where everything

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<v Speaker 2>is blocked, the protection is there, and Jordan's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hoppen a little bit as he's looking downfield trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find something. You can see the excitement in the young

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<v Speaker 2>man at making plays and from the greenmat Packers' perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five completions on thirty six attempts. His overall passer

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<v Speaker 2>completion percentage is now over sixty percent on the season.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big thing we talked about earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Two sixty seven, three touchdowns, one eighteen point six pass rating. Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking right now in terms of the NFL. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the best guys performing at that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean for Jordan Love to post a

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<v Speaker 1>passer rating nearly forty points higher than Patrick Mahomes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had told me that before the game, that

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been the disparity in the passer rating

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<v Speaker 1>between the two quarterbacks and the Packers would have that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of advantage, you know, my jaw would have hit

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. And it's not as though Patrick Mahomes played

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<v Speaker 1>a poor game by any stretch. But you mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 1>that the Packers never blinked, and this was a game

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<v Speaker 1>that as it was going along, you know, the Packers score,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chief's answer, you know, Packers score, Chiefs answer with

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<v Speaker 1>another field goal. But then the Chiefs get the ball. Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, botched a chance to get a two score

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<v Speaker 1>lead going into halftime. There was a there was a

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<v Speaker 1>false start there and the passing game kind of broke down.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't able to get the field goal attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>make it seventeen to six. The Chiefs get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of halftime and they go right down and

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<v Speaker 1>get their first touchdown of the game. Packers stopped the

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion, but so it's fourteen to twelve. But

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<v Speaker 1>at that point it became a game of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna blink first, right, and you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>you know the next well, I shouldn't say the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of possessions in succession, but to two possessions in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half as this thing unfolded. One was the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>face to fourth and one, decided to pass on what

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a very long field goal attempt, went

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and that became the Romeo Dobs catch that

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, where you know, Jordan Love has the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>right in his face, Chris Jones is as close to

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<v Speaker 1>burying him as Chris Jones got all night long, quite frankly.

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<v Speaker 1>But Love sees that the Kansas City secondary is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit mixed up and doesn't think anybody's really going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to make a play on Romeo, so

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<v Speaker 1>he throws it up there and Dobbs is able to

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<v Speaker 1>come down with it between multiple defenders who are converging

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<v Speaker 1>but couldn't get there, which is exactly what Love thought

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<v Speaker 1>when he let the ball go, that they wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>there in time. Huge fourth and one conversion. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was a moment where maybe the Packers were going to blink.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chiefs are going to get a fourth downstop and

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<v Speaker 1>take over with just a two point deficit. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed fourteen to twelve at that time, but you

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<v Speaker 1>convert the four and one and then against the blitz

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<v Speaker 1>you hit Christian Watson for his second touchdown of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The other blink moment then became when it's twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen, the Chiefs have the ball, they get a

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<v Speaker 1>pass interference against the Packers that puts them just across midfield,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Keishawn Nixon comes up with an interception, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first time either quarterback blinked in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon gets the pick with about five minutes to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and you, I'll let you take the story from here,

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<v Speaker 1>because you heard from Nixon in the locker room and

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about how he had used some pretty extensive film

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<v Speaker 1>study to get a read on what was going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen there that led to his interception.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mannerism study. It's something that I think is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the normal day to day curriculum in

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<v Speaker 2>the National Football League where coaches will go over kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the tells and tips that they're seeing. Both on

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<v Speaker 2>the All twenty two film, but as Matt Lafleure talked

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<v Speaker 2>about on Monday's press conference with the media. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get it on the TV copy too, because of

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<v Speaker 2>how they mike up centers and kind of figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>what the cadences are and in those type of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And in this particular case, it was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>checks that Patrick Mahomes was making that he had talked

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<v Speaker 2>with I should say, he being Keishawn Nixon, had discussed

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<v Speaker 2>with his coaches and in the cornerbacks room as Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if this happens and this is the look that you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting with two receivers over on the right side, this

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<v Speaker 2>might be what the check is going to be, and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately how the play is going to play out. The

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, maybe you deduced it a little bit better

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<v Speaker 2>than I did. Watching it unfold from the Kansas City perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to figure out if they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to run a rub route or if it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a quick stop and then the guy going underneath it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of a weird sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Yeah, it's what I looked at it, and it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the clips in my what you might

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<v Speaker 1>have missed. I took a look at, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>key defensive plays, the sacks in the red zone, the

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion stop, and then the last one being

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<v Speaker 1>the interception there by Nixon. And it looked it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially it is a rub route. They're trying to set

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<v Speaker 1>up a natural pick type of situation where where sky Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>the inside receiver, is looping underneath. I believe it's Rashi

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<v Speaker 1>Rice who who's running just a quick stop route from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside, so he's looping underneath. What Nixon was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do is he is he stayed back so that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't, you know, run into Rice or Rice's defender

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<v Speaker 1>on the short route. He stayed back, he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to loop behind. And really then what happened when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it closely on the film is when sky

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<v Speaker 1>Moore it kind of looks like a wheel route, and

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<v Speaker 1>it does. It's not a wheel route out of the backfield,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a wheel route from the slot around the

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<v Speaker 1>other receiver. What sky Moore realizes is how good a

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<v Speaker 1>position Nixon is in, and he sort of realized I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to win this route, and he starts to

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<v Speaker 1>slow up, but Mahomes has already let the ball go

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<v Speaker 1>because he's counting on his guy to run the route,

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<v Speaker 1>and by slowing up like he did, he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to sort of defend Nixon from being able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick the ball off. Nixon had a clean open

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<v Speaker 1>catch because because More wasn't running full speed on the route.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Nixon played it so well, it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of like I got you, I beat you,

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<v Speaker 1>and More gave up on the play. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that it was a mistake by the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs offense. The Packers were able to take advantage cash

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<v Speaker 1>in and then and they ran the clock down almost

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<v Speaker 1>to a minute left to go before kicking the field

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<v Speaker 1>of the field goal to go up eight points.

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<v Speaker 2>It got really dicey in that final series for Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>But after that play, the Chiefs offense never looked in sync. Again, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it really didn't. And obviously they're playing in a two

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<v Speaker 2>minute situation all that, but it just seemed like it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those backbreaking type of moments. The stat

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<v Speaker 2>that I brought up and we talked about it last

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<v Speaker 2>week then being minus six now and turnover differential. They're

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<v Speaker 2>four and four on the season. When Patrick Mahomes has

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<v Speaker 2>an interception, they haven't lost when he doesn't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>So it shows you just how quickly that can all

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<v Speaker 2>turn on them if it doesn't work out that way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Keishaw Nixon, I said it was one of the finest

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<v Speaker 2>over the shoulder interceptions I've ever seen. I'll say this,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've ever seen it over the

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder interception within ten yards of the play. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 2>happens if a guy lofts a ball and that the

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<v Speaker 2>receiver doesn't run it rout right or it's overthrown. Keisha

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon had an over the shoulder interception that ended up

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<v Speaker 2>in sort of a toe taper on the sidelines, all

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<v Speaker 2>within like ten yards. Yeah, it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>wild thing, and I know a lot of people the

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<v Speaker 2>reactions of this thing I've seen, I mean, just people

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<v Speaker 2>completely awestruck at it. But as Nixon said afterwards, he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a couple of those chances already this season.

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<v Speaker 2>We remember one of them, I believe in Denver, where

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<v Speaker 2>he was so close to being able to just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get his feet Downes caught the ball, but it's the

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<v Speaker 2>other part of the process of the catch that one.

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<v Speaker 2>He did it, and it was a huge moment for greenback.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's one of those things too that with Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>being a return guy, he at times he has to

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<v Speaker 1>catch the ball in different positions and you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>other ways than sort of the traditional way that a

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<v Speaker 1>defender might intercept a pass. So those kinds of skills

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<v Speaker 1>certainly come in handy. This win is big as it

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<v Speaker 1>is for the Packers, and we'll talk about where things

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the playoff picture in a minute. It came

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<v Speaker 1>at a cost, however, unfortunately, because Christian Watson in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, as he picked up a crucial first down

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<v Speaker 1>to move the chains, keep the clock moving there late

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, he tweaked his hamstring, went down,

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<v Speaker 1>was helped off the field. We don't know the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of the injury where things are at. It is an

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<v Speaker 1>injury that he has dealt with in one form or

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<v Speaker 1>another throughout his two seasons in the NFL, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>very unfortunate. Christian Watson was really getting going, not only

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<v Speaker 1>having the two touchdown catches against the Chiefs, but four

0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.600
<v Speaker 1>of his five touchdowns on the season. We're in this

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<v Speaker 1>three game winning streak that the Packers are currently on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, you know, starting to certainly starting to look

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<v Speaker 1>like the Christian Watson that you know that took the

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<v Speaker 1>league by storm over a four or five game stretch

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<v Speaker 1>last season as a rookie. In November, we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>long he's going to be out, and it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big blow to the Packers offense when you add the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Luke Muskrave, your rookie tight end who had

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<v Speaker 1>been just starting to stretch defenses a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>get more attention and whatnot, he's also out now. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on injured reserve and we don't really know if or

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<v Speaker 1>when he'll be back this season. So offensively, another hurdle

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with here as Matt Lafleur and the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are going to have to game plan presumably, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think at least this game against the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe another one, who knows. We don't know the timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's going to be some time here that Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Watson is going to miss and they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>game plan and set up the offense moving forward without

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<v Speaker 1>number nine on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was bummed out to see how that ends

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<v Speaker 2>for him, because, for my money, Michael, I understand he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to be up for Offensive Player of the

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<v Speaker 2>Week or Offensive Rookie of the Week like he was

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<v Speaker 2>like twelve times last season. But I would venture to

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<v Speaker 2>say that that was one of his best games of

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<v Speaker 2>his NFL career because he played as a possession receiver

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<v Speaker 2>and he showed the more well rounded aspects of his game.

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<v Speaker 2>Set career high seven receptions, but it was only for

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one yards, but so many of those plays, none

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<v Speaker 2>of which were more than twenty yards on an individual catch,

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<v Speaker 2>but so many of those plays contributed to either the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers sustaining a drive or as we saw the two

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns the first one in the second quarter, in the

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<v Speaker 2>second one and the third, and how strongly he attacked

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<v Speaker 2>the football and just being able to use all of

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<v Speaker 2>his tools together as one. You had to edit it.

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<v Speaker 2>When I wrote it last month, Christian Watson was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be just fine. I liked his mentality, I liked

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<v Speaker 2>his athleticism. I felt like he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to pull himself back into this thing and finish strong,

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<v Speaker 2>which he has been doing. Unfortunately, the inner the hamstring

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<v Speaker 2>does pop up. One thing he did clarify, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure we make this point. His people

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<v Speaker 2>had kind of been asking on social media or some

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<v Speaker 2>of the media had been talking about, well, him trying

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<v Speaker 2>to stop himself to stay in balance. Is where the

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<v Speaker 2>hamstring injury happened. Watson said, No, it happened during the

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<v Speaker 2>process of it. He just went down, not to make

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<v Speaker 2>anything worse. I mean, obviously he wanted to stand bounce,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had already had the issue before that, so

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<v Speaker 2>you hope for the best. It was good to see

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<v Speaker 2>him walking around. Obviously, he was talking with teammates afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>It you know, it's not like Desmond Bishop situation, which

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<v Speaker 2>is always the one in the back of my head

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<v Speaker 2>when a guy goes down like he did. But hamstring

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<v Speaker 2>injuries also don't heal themselves overnight. We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>see what the Packers do here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna take. It's gonna take another

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<v Speaker 1>adjustment on offense. But Lafleur in this offensive staff, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been dealing with adjustments all along. You know, you lose

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<v Speaker 1>David Baktieri, Aaron Jones has been in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup all season. Now Watson was out before back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Watson's out. Musgrave is out. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>anything that they haven't dealt with in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and they'll have to roll with it again.

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<v Speaker 1>The uh, the final drive. I want to make one

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<v Speaker 1>point about that. What I considered an extremely chaotic final drive,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't and I don't think it was just because

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<v Speaker 1>I was live blogging the game and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out and keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was just watching. I didn't understand what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was and trying to type everything and and stay on

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<v Speaker 1>top of it. There are all kinds of analyzes out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of said my peace with regard to the

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<v Speaker 1>officiating in the Monday Insider inbox. You know, the late

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<v Speaker 1>hit on Mahomes shouldn't have been called, The past interference

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<v Speaker 1>on Valentine obviously should have been called. Did the officials

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<v Speaker 1>manage the clock correctly? Absolutely not. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Hail Mary, which apparently, and I'm not watching the

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<v Speaker 1>NBC broadcast, but apparently they were making a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>out of Travis Kelsey getting shoved in the back by

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Owens on the Hail Mary. And it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when's the last time you ever saw a pass interference flag?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, folks. I literally I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in my lifetime, I have seen one pass

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<v Speaker 1>interference flag thrown on a hail mary and it was

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<v Speaker 1>literally when a guy got grabbed and dragged to the

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<v Speaker 1>ground where they had there was like no choice if

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<v Speaker 1>you are jock for a position to go try to

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<v Speaker 1>get the football. It's an anything goes free for all situation.

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<v Speaker 1>The point I wanted to make about all this is

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<v Speaker 1>hearing the comments afterward from Patrick Mahomes and from Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Kelcey with regard to the final drive. Mahomes is asked

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<v Speaker 1>about the interference on Valentine, the deep ball to MVS

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't called, and Patrick Mahomes says, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>throw better football. Travis Kelsey's asked about the hail mary

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, I'm not putting this loss on anything

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<v Speaker 1>but ourselves. That's how champions talk. That's how champions two

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl championships in the last handful of years. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how champions deal with defeats like that. They are not

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<v Speaker 1>pointed the fans are gonna do what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Those players are not pointing the fingers at the officials

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<v Speaker 1>for how that thing went down, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's an important thing to remember. It's an important

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<v Speaker 1>thing to file away. How the Kansas City Chiefs dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Law, I loved it, and I think that starts with

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<v Speaker 2>the Andy Reid. I think it goes through that coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously when you have leaders like Kelsey and Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be something that permiates to the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room. What I like the most about it

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<v Speaker 2>in the games are completely different, by the way, but

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<v Speaker 2>the way that the Chiefs handled this reminded me so

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<v Speaker 2>much of how the Patriots handled the loss to Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay in twenty fourteen. Here there's teams that chase the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to make the playoffs, and there's teams that

0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.880
<v Speaker 2>are trying to build themselves into Super Bowl champions, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the Patriots did in twenty fourteen. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a controversial ending like that, but I just remember Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick talking about what they'd learned from that game in

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<v Speaker 2>the fact they ended up not losing another game the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the season. For the Chiefs perspective, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things that Kansas City has to shore up.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen it it's been something that's cost them some games.

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<v Speaker 2>In this particular one, it was chaotic no matter which

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<v Speaker 2>way you slice it, Packers, Chiefs, whoever. The officiating kind

0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.640
<v Speaker 2>of started to alter the way that this what extremely

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 2>entertaining in exciting football game was playing out. But you

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<v Speaker 2>have to overcome it. The one thing I found most

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<v Speaker 2>interesting about the discussion about the hill Mary was just

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like, have you ever watched the play before

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<v Speaker 2>in the understanding that when a hail Mary goes up?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not It's the one play where the defense is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of seen as in a second offense, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone can attack the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everybody's got a shot at that ball.

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:33.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not the defense's job to prevent the offense from

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<v Speaker 2>catching the ball. The defense has a chance for it too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the jockeying aspect this comes through. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just make this point with Dean Blandino because he came

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<v Speaker 2>out with a thirty third team and provided some analysis

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<v Speaker 2>with this. Again, I welcome anything that the NFL wants

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<v Speaker 2>to put in front of us in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>that game was officiated at the end and what they

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<v Speaker 2>were exactly looking for and whether things are right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Guessing we're not going to see it. I'm guessing there's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be some reports coming out on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>about whether or not John Nathan Owens was fine, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's all we're going to be left to deduce from this.

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<v Speaker 2>But as Dean Blandino pointed out, there, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the way that everything played out at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>the officiating call on the Mahomes thing, he was clearly

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<v Speaker 2>in bounds that should not have happened. That's where it

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<v Speaker 2>all started. And then the MBS play Obviously you watch it,

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you see the contact there. But when think but Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Lafleur touched on it and the little bit that he

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 2>discussed it on his press conference on Monday, It's about

0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>how games are officiated and augmenting yourself to that officiation

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<v Speaker 2>of the game. It's why I took such an issue

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 2>with Clete Blakeman's crew in twenty twenty with those playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>in the FC Championship game, game is officiated one way.

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<v Speaker 2>They changed it over in the last two minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>officiated completely the other way. Whatever. That's where really Brad

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<v Speaker 2>Allen's crew got into a jam because it was a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible call. On the Mahomes thing. If you happen to

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<v Speaker 2>look up and see the screen, even though it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a reviewable play, they left it up there. You can

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<v Speaker 2>clearly see Jonathan Owens making the contact with Mahomes while

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<v Speaker 2>he's still in bounds, not even one foot out of bounds,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what started to alter the way

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the game unfolded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll say it once again because my face

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<v Speaker 1>continues to get blue and bluer and power over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>If they just make safety rules reviewable, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>controversy in the sleep could be avoided because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>take long to look at a play that is a

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<v Speaker 1>potential safety violation and decide whether or not it really was.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Mahomes play, the hit on the sideline would

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<v Speaker 1>exactly fall into that category. So I think a potential solution,

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<v Speaker 1>a potential improvement, is staring the NFL in the face

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to the safety rules, whether you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>late hits, whether you're talking about roughing the passer, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about defenseless hits on defenseless receivers, helmet to

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<v Speaker 1>helmet contact, Just if these calls are going to these

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<v Speaker 1>are all fifteen yard calls and they cost players money.

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<v Speaker 1>Get them right. And I think if you just put

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<v Speaker 1>the safety rules in the reviewable category, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more of this. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're wasting five minutes reviewing whether or not Rashi Rice's

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<v Speaker 2>knee is down. We're wasting forty five seconds to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks and you know, intentional grounding. Yeah, but it's inexplicable

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to just take a second to see

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe Patrick Mahomes was still in bounce.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and the league and the league is the league

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<v Speaker 1>is just is forcing fans to accept that plays that

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<v Speaker 1>get flagged but then the players don't get fined, and

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<v Speaker 1>then plays that don't get flagged, and then the players

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<v Speaker 1>do get fined that you find out about later in

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. Everybody's just supposed to accept that that's how

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<v Speaker 1>this is supposed to go. To me, it's ludicrous. It's ludicrous.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm not going to sit your point fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the pool report after the game,

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<v Speaker 2>in Brad Allen's comments to the gentleman from Kansas City

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<v Speaker 2>that was conducting it, there was really no expansion on

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<v Speaker 2>why things ruled. It was that was the right rule.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the right rule, And I think that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the fact we've had from the league here for

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<v Speaker 2>a number of years in terms of don't question it,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was correct.

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<v Speaker 1>long to get to this point, but we have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about where things are in the NFC. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest way to explain where things are right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There are four teams in the NFC that are tied

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<v Speaker 1>at six and six. You have the Packers, the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams, and the Seahawks, and there are two as

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<v Speaker 1>far as those teams at six and six, they are

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for two wild card spots that are available, the

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<v Speaker 1>number six and the number seven seeds in the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have two teams at five and seven. The

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the New Orleans Saints are both

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<v Speaker 1>five and seven, one game back of those four teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are six and six.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Falcons, so their division title.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but as of now, the Falcons are the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the division leader in the NFC South. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it from that wild card perspective, the six

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<v Speaker 1>and seven seeds that are available, it's essentially six teams,

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<v Speaker 1>all the those four six and six as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>the two five and sevens, it's those six teams fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for two spots. There are five games left to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really look at you know, okay, who has

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<v Speaker 1>the spot now versus you know, based on the tie

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<v Speaker 1>breakers as they sit right now. I mean that's valuable

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<v Speaker 1>only in the sense of, okay, if you don't lose

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<v Speaker 1>any more games the rest of the season, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the spot you're you know, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>spot you would you would occupy. Right So, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are five games left for all these teams. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of football left to be played and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to sort out. But the most important thing, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the Packers are the team that have thrust

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<v Speaker 1>themselves into this going from three and six to six

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<v Speaker 1>and six, and I think there's no argument that of

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<v Speaker 1>those six teams fighting for those two spots, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are the hottest club right now. And it's just up

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<v Speaker 1>to the Packers to keep this thing going starting next

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night against the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Well in the NFL got what they wanted with the

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 2>seventeenth game and the seventh playoff seed, because right now

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<v Speaker 2>we are in Week fourteen, correct, and there is one

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>team in the National Football League eliminated from the playoffs,

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>that's Carolina Panthers. Everybody else, including the New England Patriots,

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<v Speaker 2>are actually still technically alive for the wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mathematically, there's a pass.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does this tell you when you have two

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<v Speaker 2>teams here at six and six and two other teams

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<v Speaker 2>at six and six that are on the outskirts, look

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the outside looking in and the inside looking out. Win

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>football games? And I think that was basically the biggest

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>message that Matt Lafleur had, especially once the tides started

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<v Speaker 2>to turn a little bit. They got to three and six,

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<v Speaker 2>then they're at four and six and so on and

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<v Speaker 2>so forth. Don't worry about who the opponent is, worry

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 2>about what the outcome is going to be. And the

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Packers have to keep that same mentality because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>look and we'll discuss it later this week. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants are humbling some teams right now. People forget,

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Giants went into the bye week with back to back wins.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't beat the Kansas City Chiefs, they didn't beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Detroit Lions, but they got back to back wins.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to respect the opponent and the threats

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>that are presented. But for the Green Bay Packers to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to dig themselves out of that hole and

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 2>put themselves back in a situation where it can even

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<v Speaker 2>be a funny little tweet or a nice little thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to get some engagement about how, oh they're

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<v Speaker 2>technically the seventh seed right now, if the season would end,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a testament to Matt lafleuor it's a testament

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<v Speaker 2>to that locker room. And now that they've tasted some

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<v Speaker 2>of that success, especially with the young football team, understanding

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<v Speaker 2>that you can look past no opponent and that schedule

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 2>gets to be a little bit more favorable. The dark

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>woods are behind you, here. You no longer have to

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>be fearful of the big bad wolf. You still have

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>to be cognizant that there are dangers out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Bay Packers have to be able to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of business or you can get humbled very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And we'll talk about more about where the

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<v Speaker 1>how the playoff picture looks, who all these other teams

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<v Speaker 1>are playing this week, because with the Packers on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night out in New Jersey, it's gonna be a Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>of scoreboard watching and all of that for Packers fans.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll we'll break that down as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming opponent, the Giants, on our next program.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not let you sign off yet, Okay, San Francisco, Philly,

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<v Speaker 2>just give me your thoughts on that really fast, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna ever talk about it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's true. I got caught up in everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, we had a lot to discuss, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do want your thoughts on that game.

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<v Speaker 1>San. I mean, I don't always like the phrase statement

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<v Speaker 1>game because it gets a bit overused, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a statement.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I save it. I save that overused phrase

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<v Speaker 1>for certain moments the San Francisco forty nine Ers sent

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<v Speaker 1>a message to phill Yeah, exactly. It was on the

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>road in Philadelphia. They sent a message to the rest

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of the league. I you know, I had mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>last week that this that little three game losing streak.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say little three games is a lot, but

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<v Speaker 1>that three game losing streak the Niners went through is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely ancient history. Right now, that team, that team is

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<v Speaker 1>on a roll. They are looking, I would argue, even

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<v Speaker 1>better than at any point they may have looked last

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<v Speaker 1>year before they lost their quarterback initially when you know

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<v Speaker 1>when Perdy then had to had to jump into things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. The Eagles are still the you know, still

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<v Speaker 1>have the best record. They're the only team with two losses.

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<v Speaker 1>But boy, you know, with the Niners having that tie

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.239
<v Speaker 1>breaker on the Eagles, now all they have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is tie them at the seventeen game mark, and the

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Niners are going to get that first round by eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Carries forty six yards for Philly. Jalen Hurts was the

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<v Speaker 2>leading rusher with twenty yards in that game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they completely neutralize that offense and then the quick thing

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do, and this will be your opening

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<v Speaker 2>now to sign off is Brock Purty nineteen of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven three fourteen four touchdowns. Having Deebo Samuel helps too.

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<v Speaker 2>But when teams not only five, people always want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about is he the guy? Is he the guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter if people say he's the guy, it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that locker room think he's the guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And Brock Purdy is the guy and I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>learning week after week after week, Jordan Love is the

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<v Speaker 2>guy in this locker room. The doubters can say whatever

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>they want, but this team is following Jordan Love. And

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>when you have a young rookie quarterback, a young first

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<v Speaker 2>year starting quarterback, just like Brock Purty did last year,

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<v Speaker 2>when you have that self belief, you can conquer anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And we'll talk more about what lies ahead

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<v Speaker 1>for the Eagles on our next show as well, because

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>because that's really going to get interesting there in the

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>NFC East. But we do have to sign off on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow continue

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. Everybody. We will see you next time,