1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Sankovitz. Welcome in to another 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: episode of The Colts Show in Indianapolis Colts Podcast. Today 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: we have Media Day Part two coming up. I had 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: interviews with Jalen Jones, Shaiguulubi, DeForest Buckner, with a little 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: cameo from Grover Stewart, Quitty Pay and Ashton Doolan. Really 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: fun stuff. You might want to turn the volume down 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: a little bit for Bucks interview just you'll see when 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: you get to that part, but really fun conversations with 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: these guys. If you missed last week's episode, I talked 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to eight guys on day one of our creative content shoot. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Nevill Gallimore, Kenny were the Second cam Binham, 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, Alec Pierce, Justin. 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Wally, JT. 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: Twey, Molowil all those guys that I had a chance 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: to sit down with him on last week's podcast. If 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: you've missed a couple of our previous episodes, I had 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Josh downs on. I had James Franklin on on a 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: couple of recent episodes. Those are all wherever you get 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: your podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, any major podcast platform 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: you can find those episodes on as well. Anyways, let's 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: get right to it here. Just real quick housekeeping. There 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: will not be an episode next week. We are off 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: for the fourth of July. Then we will be back 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: in early July with a couple of new episodes before 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: we get up to training camp, which is going to 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: be here before you know it, in less than a month. Anyways, 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: here we go. Here's Media Day, Part two on the 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Colt Show. All right, back here at media Day with 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Colts cornerback Jalen Jones and I had a conversation with 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: you last year in the locker room. We were just 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: chatting about like your recruiting process, and you told me 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: you were strongly considering Purdue. This is you were a 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: five star recruit, right And was it because other schools 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: were offering you as Like, how did that process go 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: with considering Purdue as a kid from Texas who's a 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: five star crew to I'm sure had offers from all 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: the big schools in Texas. You obviously wanted an A 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: and M. But what was that initial connection to Purdue? 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: Man? It was just in triggering man, knowing that Drew 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: Brees went there being a Texas guy, basically just like 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: the conversation with the coaching staff at the time, I 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: think coach Frum's there or Bron I think it's Brown. Yeah, 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: coach Brown and yeah, Man, the conversation was good. Had 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: a good relationship with his son at the time. Man 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: would talk about it and things like that. So it 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: was real cool interesting to see that, you know, like 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: everybody in the family was, you know, reaching out to me, 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: and all the coaches staff was reaching out to me, 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: man and just showing like a real family feel. And 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: that's why, you know, Purdue was on my radar. 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: That family feel. Like the game that you remember you 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: told me you remember watching was that upset over Ohio State, Yeah, 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: which was the that was the Tyler Trent game if 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: you remember that. Yeah, the student who had cancer. Uh, 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: and you know they they won that game for him, 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: and that was like the ultimate like the Purdue family 57 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: coming together, you know, for the for this kid. But like, 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: what did you know about westlfaat I didn't. 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about I ain't know really much 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: about Indiana, and I didn't even know what Purdue was. 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: When it offered me. 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: I had to look it up because I was like Purdue. Like, 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: of course I've seen like the logo and things like that, 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: but I never knew where Purdue was. So I had 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: to look it up and I was like, okay, Indiana, 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: Like that would be something new, you know what I'm saying. 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: I had already had took a visit to Ohio State, 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: so I was kind of familiar with the Midwest and 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: things like that. So you know, it was just fun, 70 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: like fun recruiting process. 71 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 5: Man. 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 3: And yeah, man, purduees. I mean, honestly, in my top 73 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: about top six. 74 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Obviously you wound up in Texas, A and M. But 75 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: now you're here in Indiana. What have you learned about 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: this state? Maybe the city of Indianapolis since you've been here? 77 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: Man, Like, sports around here is everything? 78 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 2: Man? 79 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: Like just you know, you driving around, you see people's 80 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: license place, people you know, repping their schools, whether it's Butler, Purdue, IU, 81 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: you know, and I feel like it's a you know, 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: a prideful state, which I love. Like being from Texas, 83 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, you know, they don't mess with Texas slowed 84 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: me things like that. So coming to a state where 85 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: they're also you know, you know, priv for in their 86 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: state was like it was cool to see and just 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: learning all the culture, the history of Indianapolis and things 88 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: like that. You know, I've been loving my time here 89 00:03:59,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: so far. 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: So have you adopted the Pacers? 91 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: Definitely? Definitely. I'm a Spurs fan at heart, That's what I'm. 92 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Going to say. If I thought you'd be a Spurs fan, that's. 93 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: My number one. 94 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: But definitely have adopted the Pacers. 95 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, just going to the games, being in 96 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: that you know, crazy atmosphere, man, and it's seeing a 97 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: young squad you know, really get to it. I mean 98 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's motivational for us too. So I'm 99 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: about to say it's cool to see. 100 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: How do you go to a game as a fan? Like, 101 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: I know you've been to a couple of the playoff games, 102 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Like how do you How do you, as a professional 103 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: athlete go to a game as a fan? 104 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: I love watching basketball for one, Like basketball is like 105 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: my thing. So just going out there, you know, like 106 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: just being being in too with the game, being at 107 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: too with the fans, man, you know, just getting routy 108 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: in the stands, like you know, it's just a fun atmosphere. 109 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: I'm a sports guy. I go to baseball games to 110 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: do the same exact thing. I'm yelling at the stands 111 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: like I just I enjoy it. So just like I said, 112 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: going to the game supporting those guys, you know, us 113 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: being professional athletes in the city. Man, it's it's always good. 114 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: What baseball games are you going to? 115 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: So I'm an Astros fan, but this year I've been 116 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: to the Rays game that had played the Rockies, and 117 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: then I went to the White Sox game about two 118 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: weeks ago. Dad played the Rangers, and I'm not too 119 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: fond of the Rangers, so I was glad to see 120 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: them lose. 121 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: Wait, you went to a White Sox game and they won. 122 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm a White Sox fan. They don't win like anything. 123 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I got to get you more games. 124 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: They was hitting. It was hit they was hitting that day. 125 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: So it was. 126 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: With this with this team who gives off the most 127 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: dad energy on the Indianapolis Colts. Man, Like it's coming 128 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: out right after Father's Day. 129 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: So like, yeah, sure, I think I feel like probably probably. 130 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: But yeah that's kind of who kind of Most people 131 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: have said I say probably, but for sure, just his 132 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: veteran presence in that room, even though you know he's 133 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: on the D line. You're you're a defensive back. What 134 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: does his presence do for that defensive unit? Just the 135 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: way that he conducts himself and he goes about his business. 136 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: Man, you know, just being the definition of a professional 137 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: man and you know comes in day and day out. 138 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: Man puts everything into it. And I mean he helps 139 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: out his guys man. I mean anything unique can go 140 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: to him, you can ask him questions. I mean he 141 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: just he just the guy that got to be around. 142 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: Man. 143 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: He really helps his defense, whether his own or off 144 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: the field. So it's good to have a guy like 145 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 3: that that you tried onto the field with. 146 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: All Right, last one for you, Let's say the sport 147 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: of football never existed, it was never invented. Yeah, what 148 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: sport are you playing professionally right now? 149 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: Man? 150 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Honestly, like I said, I'm I was a huge basketball 151 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: kid growing up. I feel like I would have kept 152 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: developing my skills. I could have had a chance, definitely. 153 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: But people don't know. I was a pretty pretty good 154 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: four hundred runner. Like growing up, you know, I stopped 155 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 3: like in high school, I was on all like the 156 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: relays and stuff just because you know, I played football. 157 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: But like growing up, like the four hundred was my race, 158 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: Like from the time elementary to the time, like about 159 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: eighth grade, ninth grade, like running summer track, going to 160 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: the Jerialympics, competing and things like that. You know, really 161 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: really training for, you know, the four hundred growing up. 162 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know, man, maybe that could have went somewhere. 163 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: It would have been fun to see being the Olympics someday, 164 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: you know, gold medalist something like that would have been cool. 165 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: So what about that event was like worked for you? 166 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: Man? 167 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: I feel like, like I love to run clearly, I 168 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: mean I do that for a living now, So I 169 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: mean just going out there and I feel like the 170 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: four hundred is the ultimate like competitive race because you know, 171 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: he got the one hundred and two hundred, but those 172 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: are so quick it's. 173 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: Just a sprint. 174 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the four hundred is also a sprint, but it's 175 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: like who got the wheel to really run a full 176 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: lap around that track the fastest you can go, everything 177 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: you got. That's the true like competitive race. I mean, 178 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: you see guys in the Olympics, Man, I mean to 179 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: go out there and run forty four forty three, like 180 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: that's insane. Forty two I mean you're talking even seconds 181 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: every one hundred meter dash like that's. 182 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm like the one hundred meters dash. If you hit 183 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: like ten, you're like the fastest person in the world. 184 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Like I think the fastest time ever. 185 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, nine five six, so yeah, and it's. 186 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: Like you gotta think them guys are running a second 187 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: off of that four times. 188 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the shame. 189 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 190 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: Like when the four hundred, like that's my favorite event 191 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: to watch, like whether it's college track, the Olympics pre trials, whatever, 192 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: Like I'm tuning in to the four hundred because it's 193 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: just like, like I really give respect to you guys. 194 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: I go out there and really, you know, go and 195 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: get it. It's exciting to see. 196 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Are college learra Overton. It's just geeking out over all 197 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: this track talk here Jalen Jones appreciate the time on 198 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, but yeah, thank you. Here with Colts linebacker 199 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: Shai Gua Loubi. You're an undrafted guy. Yeah, how has 200 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: that shaped your career? Having to work your way up 201 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: from you know, not hearing your name called. 202 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's awesome, man. 203 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 6: I get to share the gift of gratitude with all 204 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 6: my teammates, you know, like it's just one of them 205 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 6: things that you understand every day when you walk in here. 206 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 6: It was never something I was a guarantee for you. 207 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: How is this Pacers run? Like, how how is it 208 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: shown you what Indianapolis can be involving like a sports team. 209 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 6: It's amazing to see kind of the fan support, you know, 210 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 6: from a different perspective because obviously when we're in Lucas, 211 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 6: I'm on the field, so I'm kind of locked in. 212 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 6: But getting to be amongst the people in the stadium 213 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 6: chair for the Sers, you know, and and seeing the 214 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 6: run that they've been on. I mean really since I've 215 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 6: been in the league, they've been pretty good. So it's 216 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 6: kind of one of those things you get to see 217 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 6: how the city and the rest of the team. 218 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I remember him this conversation with Zire once where like 219 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: he's obviously a big sixers guy and like him being 220 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: a professional athlete, he was like kind of like he 221 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: was struggling to like like he wants to like be like, ah, 222 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, like what are you doing? But then he's 223 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: like I kind of know what it's like, you know, 224 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: on the other side, how do you watch a game 225 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: as a fan? 226 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Phantom is kind of tough for me because at 227 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 6: the end of the day, you understand how skilled guys 228 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 6: already even get in a position where they are. But 229 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: I think you just kind of take it for what 230 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 6: it is, like, you know, you just measure their their 231 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 6: peers against each other and kind of just take it 232 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 6: for that. 233 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: So are you like when you go to a Pacers 234 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: game in the playoffs? Like what is that experience like 235 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: for you, Like cheering and like being a part of 236 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the crowd and everything. Do you get kind of like 237 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: caught up in it sometimes? 238 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes? Yeah, especially when the game gets good. I love 239 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: a great game. 240 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 6: I love that environment, whether I'm playing in the game 241 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 6: or just amongst the people. Like being in a really 242 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 6: tight game that suspense that energy, you can almost feeld 243 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 6: electricity in the air. It's some one of those things 244 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: that you kind of live for in those ways. So 245 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 6: that's a lot of. 246 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: Fun, same kind of question to you, But just about 247 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: like watching football on TV. Like I had this really 248 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: interesting conversation with Justin Wally yesterday where he was talking 249 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: about how Kenny like he studied Kenny in college, and 250 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if he had like 251 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: all twenty two access or not. It turns out he did, 252 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: But I was like, that must be impossible to be 253 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: like a cornerback and try to watch another cornerback on 254 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: TV because like the broadcast, they're not like showing everything. 255 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, teas copy, you can't see anything. 256 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: So like when do you even watch like football on TV? 257 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Or do you just say, like, you know, I gotta 258 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I would rather see the all twenty two. 259 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 6: I think I do both, right, Like, I mean, I love, 260 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 6: like I said, I love watching good I love watching ball, 261 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 6: So I'll just watch a good game. But then we 262 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 6: have the ability to go on the iPad and watch it. 263 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 6: So there's plenty of times where I'll watch the game 264 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 6: live and then especially it seems that lay some of 265 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: the defenses, I'll go on to the iPad and watch 266 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 6: it from the twenty two, watch it from the back. 267 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 6: Do you see what they've got? What they guys are saying? 268 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: When you watch games with like friends or family members, 269 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: do like you kind of drive them nuts sometimes about 270 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: like how because you obviously know more? Yeah, and like 271 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, if they're like why did this guy blow 272 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: this coverage? You're not like I was covered too, Yeah, 273 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: you know. 274 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 6: I mean I show a lot of grace in those moments, 275 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 6: you know, because I get that I don't. I'm terrible 276 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 6: a lot more, you know than other people do. So 277 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 6: I kind of just explained what's going on. Oh that 278 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 6: actually wouldn't him, you know what I mean? And I 279 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 6: think because it's so much fun for me, I don't 280 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 6: really get tired of explaining things, and I don't do 281 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: it in a way that's kind of like, you know, 282 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 6: kind of harsh, you know, so I don't think the 283 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 6: people around me get too mad. 284 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: About it either. 285 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: That's great. My wife hates watching football, yeah, because you know, 286 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: why did this guy mean it as well? Probably wasn't 287 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a signment there. I gotta get better that at that. 288 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 6: I'm really gracious because you know, you can watch a 289 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 6: bad players tape and you end up on the tape 290 00:11:59,240 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 6: if you ain't careful. 291 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: Who is the who gives off the most dad energy. 292 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: On this team? Come on, man, you know you know 293 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: who it's for. Of course. Yeah, my mom calls the 294 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: forest but her dad. I'm telling you, like she say, 295 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: you just got you know, dad energy. So it's just 296 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: kind of funny to see that. 297 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, how does how does that that energy? 298 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: Though? 299 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: You know you laughing joke about it, but like, how 300 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: does that energy? What does that bring to the team, 301 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: Like just that like that consummate professional guy's been there, 302 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: done that. 303 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, sability. 304 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 6: You need guys like that that are kind of like 305 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 6: the pillars of your team, you know, for sure, a 306 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 6: guy you can go to, a guy that kind of 307 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 6: winning things are tough. You look at him and see 308 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 6: how he's handling it, you know, and that give it 309 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 6: inspires you to keep going. 310 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: This last one for you kind of off the wall. 311 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: But let's say football never existed as a sport, what 312 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: are you playing professionally? 313 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: Soccer? 314 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Okay? Did you play soccer growing up? 315 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 2: Like one year? Okay, yeah, one year, and I was 316 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: pretty decent. Like I think just athletically. 317 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Would have been all right, But position. 318 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 6: Probably probably would have just been like an effort guy forward. 319 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 6: I mean, like just effort guy. I don't have great 320 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 6: touch on anything. I don't think I'm sitting in a 321 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 6: midfield bit. I think they just running around people. Just 322 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 6: being aggressive upfront would be. 323 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Probably maybe like you know, you're maybe like a false nine. 324 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: You're kind of like backing guys down and a little 325 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: bit yeah okay. 326 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 6: You know, yeah, probably could have been a pretty decent 327 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: defender too. 328 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: Huh. 329 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that would make sense playing linebacker in 330 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, yeah, love it. Cool shagu Alube, appreciate 331 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: your time, man, great talking see here with Colts defensive 332 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: tackle to Forrest Buckner. So I've been asking a couple 333 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: of your teammates who's the most dad person on the team, 334 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: and they all have been saying you. Shagu Alube even 335 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: said his mom calls you dad because but like that, 336 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: there's something to that, Like that just steady professional energy 337 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: that you have. Yeah, over your nine years in the NFL, 338 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: what is how he maybe learned the importance of that 339 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: and bringing that energy to a team. 340 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say I learned from one of the best, 341 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 7: Joe Staley. You know, when I was the Niners. He 342 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 7: was actually one of the vets that I even even 343 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 7: though we were in the same position group, I just 344 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 7: from afar, you know what I mean, really paid close 345 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 7: attention to how he carried his business on and off 346 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 7: the field, and you know, I just saw him he 347 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 7: was a true professional and he had a lot of 348 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 7: respect around the building. And uh, those were one of 349 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 7: some of the things that I wanted to, you know, 350 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 7: emulate a little bit and and take what, you know, 351 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 7: what he did on and off the field, and I 352 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 7: wanted to kind of, you know, do the same. 353 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: When you watch football. Let's say it's not not a 354 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Colts game, but who do you maybe gravitate toward watching 355 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: their game? And it doesn't have to be a defensive player, 356 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: but just when you put on a highlight or you 357 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: get served on Instagram, like, who do you kind of 358 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: gravitate toward? 359 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 7: Honestly, I gravitate towards D lineman Like you know, I'm 360 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 7: obviously I'm a D liman and I love D line play. 361 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 7: So you know, anytime I'm watching the game where it's 362 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 7: a primetime game, I'm tuned into what the d Lin's doing, 363 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 7: you know, just from you know, obviously seeing how they 364 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: you know, some of the moves that work for them 365 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 7: and little things like that, or or just in general, 366 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 7: like I love seeing D Lion's take over a game, 367 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So I'm always staying tuned 368 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 7: into that. 369 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: When you watch football as a fan, or can you 370 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: watch football as a fan even like when you watch 371 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: it on TV, Like how do you consume I mean, 372 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: it's like a TV broadcast you're not getting the All 373 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah, but like, how do you consume that 374 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: as someone who plays the game. 375 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's honestly, it's hard to watch football as a 376 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 7: fan because I just know it's you know, too much 377 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 7: that's going on. Yeah, you know, certain situations what they 378 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 7: should be doing and things like that, and obviously, like 379 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: when I'm watching them, like why would they do it? 380 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: You know what i mean? 381 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, little things like that or oh he's not he's 382 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 7: not supposed to do that in certain situations where it's like, oh, 383 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 7: you know, there's a great play in that situation. So 384 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 7: I'm always looking at it and watching and watching it. 385 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Like film, right, Like how do you then when you 386 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: watch another sport? Yeah, you're watching the Pacers, You're watching 387 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever. 388 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 7: I'm I'm a fan when it's another sport. I mean, 389 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 7: I'm I feel like a fan watching you know what 390 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 7: I mean. I mean, I can like basketball, I can 391 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 7: I can kind of see certain things where, you know, 392 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 7: because I played it growing up, and so I can 393 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 7: see certain things that they do and I'm like, why 394 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 7: would he do that? 395 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: You know what i mean? Or But majority of the. 396 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 7: Time I'm just tuned in and I'm sharing like a 397 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 7: whole like a whole fan. 398 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: See, Like I like watching basketball because I can be 399 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: like a dumb fan watching basketball, like I watch football 400 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: and like I don't know as much as you know 401 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: you and the other players do, but like I know 402 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: enough to know, like I can't watch it and like 403 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: really get invested in basketball. I'm like dumb as right, 404 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: why did he miss that shot? 405 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: You know? 406 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Like that, and that's kind of nice to have that outlet. 407 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: But I remember I was talking about this with shit Good. 408 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: But I had this conversation with Zaire. He's a big 409 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: sixers guy, and he's like, I can't get mad at 410 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: the players because I know what it takes to be 411 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: a professional. After Like when you even if it's a 412 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: sport that you don't know anything about, you know, you're 413 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: watching baseball or or whatever, do you still have to 414 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: like catch yourself sometimes knowing that, hey, these are the 415 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: elite of the. 416 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, you know what I mean. 417 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 7: Like, like I said, I get caught up sometimes like 418 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 7: as a fan, but you put yourself in those their 419 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 7: shoes and you're like, man, everybody has a bad game, 420 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 421 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: I've had bad games, you know, what I'm saying. 422 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 7: It's not that I'm a bad player, it's just it's 423 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 7: one of those It's just one of those days for 424 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 7: that player. You know what I'm saying. He had about 425 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 7: he had off day, and now I want to see 426 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 7: the next game how he responds, you know what I'm saying. 427 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 7: And that's what That's what it's all about. It's a 428 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 7: it's a marathon. 429 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: What is something about playing in the NFL that someone 430 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: who doesn't play in the NFL could never understand? 431 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 7: I would say, I mean they see all the you know, 432 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 7: obviously game days they see, they see the off season 433 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 7: when we're posting on social media for on a nice 434 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 7: trip or whatever it is. But I mean, they truly 435 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 7: don't know what it takes year in and year out 436 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 7: to go out there and perform, you know what I mean, 437 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 7: and perform at a high level. 438 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 439 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 7: They don't see the sacrifices that you make, you know, 440 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 7: spending weeks or months away from the family and the 441 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 7: off season, you know, to train and get ready for 442 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 7: the season, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, those 443 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 7: are some of the little things that I always think about, 444 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 7: Like see fans don't they think that I'm just in 445 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 7: the off season just kicking my feet up, trying to 446 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 7: play golf, you know what I mean, or fish or 447 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 7: whatever it is. And and it's the total opposite, you 448 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 7: know what I mean. Like I try to find times 449 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 7: to go do some of the stuff that I like 450 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 7: to kind of get my mind away and get a 451 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 7: little refresher, But majority of. 452 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: The time and we're working. 453 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: I can confirm that, by the way, because I saw 454 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: you at the gym. 455 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 456 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: One day we're at Oswell, Yeah, and I saw you 457 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: working out with these like bands and these weights. Yeah, 458 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: and you introduced me to your training and I was like, yeah, man, 459 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: I see you working out here with the you know, 460 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: same equipment, but like just different weights, yeah, and different 461 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, you would like the XXL resistance band on. 462 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: I mean, but like that was like, I don't know, 463 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: February maybe, yeah, you know, and you're you're still putting 464 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: in the work. 465 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely all throughout the year for sure. Yeah, it's 466 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: a year. It's a year on thing, you know what 467 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: I mean. 468 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 8: I always talked to my trainer and we always say, 469 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 8: like he's always. 470 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 7: Telling me about how my weight doesn't fluctuate or all 471 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 7: that kind of stuff, because I'm like, I always want to. 472 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: Stay in shape. 473 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 7: It's you know, it's it's it's hard to get into shape. 474 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 7: It it's easy to get out of shape. So I 475 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 7: always try to year around, even if it's not a 476 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 7: whole lot, you know what I mean. I just want 477 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 7: to continue to like, you know, I want to get 478 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 7: into the off season, like I'm still doing a little 479 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 7: some cardio, some core, you know, just to you know, 480 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 7: keep my body moving, staying in shape so that you know, 481 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 7: when the time comes, you know, I'm not I'm not. 482 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 8: Behind the e Bay Grover. 483 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: Fully commit. You didn't fully commit. You have to fully commit. 484 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: She's got one foot in, one foot out. 485 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't all in on that, you know. I 486 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: mean you you were getting it. You're doing pretty good. 487 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: See he's trying too hard. Huh. Yeah he's thinking. 488 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: He heard. 489 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're thinking too much about it. Just let it happen. 490 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean you gotta. 491 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. 492 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: You can't start thinking because then you're playing slow. You're 493 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: yelling exactly. That's how I that's how I give him 494 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: an example. 495 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: But it might be too loud for the mic. 496 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I Uh, I've done. I've done the 497 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: like my third down call in the mic before. So 498 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: if you want to hit it just to throw them off, 499 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: you can't. 500 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: That's how you do it. There we go. 501 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: We can always take that down in post. 502 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: By the way. 503 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: So for our audio listeners, what's your favorite Grover Stewart story? 504 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: My favorite Grover Stewart's story. Man, there's a lot. There 505 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: is a lot. 506 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: Man, uh. 507 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 2: Oh man, I gotta go deep in the archives here. 508 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: Let's see. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Hold on, Okay, 509 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: I got one for you. So this is years ago. 510 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 7: So if you don't know Grove, he lives you know, 511 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 7: down south out you know, South Georgia, and uh, you know, 512 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 7: anytime in the all, in the off season, when you 513 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 7: try to, you know, get hold. 514 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: Of him, it's impossible, you know. 515 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 7: So like you know, if you say you want to 516 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 7: call him, he might not call you back till a 517 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 7: week later, you know what I mean. So there's one 518 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 7: time I need I actually had something on my mind 519 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: and I have to ask Grove the question. And so 520 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 7: this is the off season, this is about this around March, 521 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 7: and I call him one day. Don't hear back from him. 522 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 7: So I'm like, oh, man, I really needed to. 523 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: Ask gro this question. 524 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 7: Does it go straight to voicemail or sometimes it will 525 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 7: rings sometimes you just go straight to the voicemail, you know. 526 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 7: So I was like, he must be busy, but he's 527 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 7: also he's probably on like his zero turn mower or something, 528 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 7: mowing to grass or something. 529 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. 530 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 8: And uh So about a week goes by and girls 531 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 8: calling me. 532 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, girl calling me, answer the phone. What's up? Bro? 533 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: He said, are you called? 534 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 8: A week later? 535 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: I just told him. 536 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 8: All I said was Bro, that was last week. Bro, 537 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 8: Get off my phone. Bro, have a good one. That 538 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 8: was it. 539 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: And then and then we get here. 540 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 8: And he's like, man, Buck, don't you never called me 541 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 8: in the off season? Yeah, that's one of my stories 542 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 8: about growth. But uh, I mean I got a lot. 543 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: That's just one of them. 544 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 7: Just you know, just tell you you know how he 545 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 7: is in the off season. He's extra municado, yeah, but 546 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 7: also still putting in the work. 547 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 548 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm I can always I always know. I mean, 549 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 7: when when time comes, he's gonna be ready. When the 550 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 7: time come, they gonna know, they're gonna I know. 551 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: Though, all right, Okay, question for both of you guys. 552 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: I did this a couple of years ago, but I 553 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: want to bring it back. Let's say football never existed 554 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: as a sport. But you guys are great athletes. What 555 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: sport are you playing professionally right now? 556 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: I've probably be an Olympics for like a shot put discus. 557 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: Olympic shot put discus. I could see it, all right, 558 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Did you do that in high school? Okay, you like 559 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: a Georgia like class state champion or anything. 560 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I will. I love it. For me, I'll 561 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: probably choose I go golf. 562 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: See you said basketball three years ago. Yeah, I know, 563 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: And but you're a stick now. Definitely not a stick now. 564 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: But but if I really really really put the work in, you. 565 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 8: Know, if I if I started from a young age, 566 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 8: I feel like. 567 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: I would have been pretty good. Yeah. 568 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I got that good natural swing. I 569 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 7: got a lot of power behind it. I don't even 570 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 7: have to hit you know, swing that hard when I 571 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 7: do hit it right, you know what I mean. But 572 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 7: majority of the time I am swinging out of my shoes. 573 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 7: So that's that's the part where you know, I don't 574 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 7: get out as much, you know, to get out there 575 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 7: and play what if I did. 576 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I just keep telling myself is that 577 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I need to get out more for sure, and that 578 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: i'd be great on PG. 579 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 7: My son does have a swing, yeah, m early. He's 580 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 7: a five five Yeah, okay, I started him at like 581 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 7: three and a half. It was actually his idea, which 582 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 7: was great. 583 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: I love it. 584 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just took I just took my five 585 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: year olds to uh, the driving range on Sunday. They're terrible, yeah, 586 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: and no idea what they're doing. 587 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 588 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: You just gotta get going on it. 589 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, going on it, you know what I mean, get 590 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: out there. You know, you gotta gotta put in the work. 591 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 7: I mean it's it is challenging, you know when they 592 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 7: want to do it themselves, Like no, then I got it. 593 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, you know what I mean. 594 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, all right, you know kind of dying 595 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: a little bit inside, is there chunking away? Yeah, but 596 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: you know what, they'll figure it out. Yeah. To Forrest Buckner, 597 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Growth, You appreciate you coming by, Yeah, right. 598 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: On, appreciate it. Thanks guys. 599 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Here with Colts Defensive end Quitty pay. The last couple 600 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: of weeks have been pretty special around this city. With 601 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: the Pacers going on a run. You got the fever 602 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: season starting got the Indy five hundred uh with the 603 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: Pacers specifically, Like you've been here now for four years? 604 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: What is this run that they've been on. Maybe shown 605 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: you about this city. 606 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: Just how crazy the fans get, you know, when when 607 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: the team's doing well, and you know, the fans wanting 608 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: the team to do well so they can go out 609 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: and show out for their team and you know brag 610 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: to the whole world that you know, they have the 611 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: best team in the in the country, so you know, 612 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: it makes us want to go out there and play. 613 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: You know, we were in the in Asana after practice 614 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: one of these days and like, man, like the Pacer 615 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: are doing anything and we have to go out there 616 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 2: and you know, ball out this season so we can 617 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: have our fans come out and show out for us. 618 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: It seems like kind of a common threat. Like when 619 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: I've asked you know, you and your teammates about the Pacers, 620 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: they say like, yeah, it's been really cool, but like 621 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: it's also motivating, yeah for us to see how the 622 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: city can rally behind one of their teams here. Yeah, yes, sir, 623 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: what about just maybe like your interactions with people around town, 624 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: like involving the Pacers. Like, I know you've gone to 625 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: a couple of games, Like when they talk to you 626 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: about the Pacers, do they also say like and hey, 627 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: you know we want we want the Colts to hit 628 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: that point too. 629 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, you know, just like from fans 630 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: run into you know, we just talked about Pacers and 631 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: then after that, so I was like, you guys are 632 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: up next, you know, like seasons coming up makesure you 633 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: guys are ready and you know, and we're we're ready. 634 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: We're preparing right now when ready to go? 635 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean asking a couple of guys about this. But 636 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: like when you go to a Pacers game, like a 637 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: PACER's playoff game, you know what it takes for those 638 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: guys to get on the court as professional athletes. Yeah, 639 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: do you have to like catch yourself like not getting 640 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: like frustrated or like mad at them because you know 641 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: they are the elite of the elite, just like you 642 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: guys are as NFL players. And it's just I don't know, 643 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: it's a way to kind of ask like how do 644 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: you watch a game as a fan? 645 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, like for me, like I go full 646 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: on as a fan, okay to me, like I can't lie, 647 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: like I'm cause coming from like a small state, like 648 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: I feel like we just were big fans of like 649 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 2: professional athletes. So I'm not the kind where like I'm 650 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: a I'm a pro athlete, where like I can't be 651 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: a fan of myself. But you know, I definitely respect 652 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: them as far as like, you know, the level that 653 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: they're at and stuff like that. It's just fun to see. 654 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: It's fun the route for them. It's fun to be 655 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: with the other fans, you know, just be a part 656 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: of you know what, una just supporting our home team. 657 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: They also pace for support the Colts pretty well. I 658 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: mean to be like Tyree dancing you know on the 659 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: suite with Blue like that. That's a pretty cool like 660 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: relationship the two teams seem to have here. 661 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's special, you know where 662 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: it's a good relationship and you know, like we're in 663 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: the same city, you know, not too like the states 664 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: are right next to each other, so it's easy for 665 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: us to support each other. And yeah, it's great. 666 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: What's a piece of wisdom maybe you've like you've gained 667 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: or you've learned or you've realized about like what it 668 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: takes to play in the NFL over your your career 669 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 670 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: So Farm, I'll probably say my favorite African proverb to 671 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: the patient man will come all the riches of the world. 672 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: And that doesn't necessarily have to do with money, just 673 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: as far as like, you know, just trusting the process, 674 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, sticking to what you know, and you know, 675 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: just you know, staying hard at work and being consistent 676 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: and you know everything that you want will will be 677 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: there for you when it when the time is ready. 678 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: You know, when the time comes, you'll be prepared and 679 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: you know you'll succeed. But you just have to you know, 680 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: be patient, just keep consistent with with what you're doing, 681 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: and you know, just trust. 682 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: How is DeForest Buckner maybe like reinforce that kind of 683 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: like when you're talking about there the presence that he 684 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: brings to this team. 685 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, anytime buck is out there, you know, 686 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: it gives everyone like an extra sense of confidence playing 687 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: out there. You know, we have some special players, but 688 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: you know, having Big Line nine out there, you know, 689 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: for me, it kind of gives us just a unit 690 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: him and Big Rove out there. You know, we kind 691 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: of feel invincible, and you know, just seeing how he 692 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: prepares every single day, how he comes in, how he's consistent, 693 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, usually one of the first in the building. 694 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: Attention to detail and practice, you know, and kind of 695 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: just instilling the idea of you know, if you're not 696 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: getting better, you're getting worse. So every time he goes 697 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: out there to practice, he's always looking to improve on something, 698 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: and you know he's going to year ten and just 699 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: seeing that, you know, because I think especially most vets 700 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: me more more. I mean not most vets, but a 701 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: lot of vets they kind of, you know, chill a 702 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: little bit when it comes to practice and stuff like that, 703 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: taking care of the bodies. But when he goes out there, 704 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: you know he's going and you know he wants to improve. 705 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: So just seeing that, seeing that from a ten year vet, 706 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, gonna be a you know, to me, a 707 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: first battle of Hall of Famer speaking into existence. But 708 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: you're just seeing that from him and aspires the rest 709 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: of us young guys, and it inspires you know, the 710 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: whole team in. 711 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: General, even like I'm guessing probably too with just something 712 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: as simple as like a basic install on like day 713 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: one of OTA's I know, like, you know, like with 714 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: Lou coming in, it's probably different than you've had over 715 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But he strikes me as 716 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: the kind of guy who, like, even if he's installed 717 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: this play for ten straight years, he's still gonna take notes, 718 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna run him down. Yeah, and he's gonna think, 719 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, hey, there might be something new I can 720 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: learn from hearing us. 721 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I would say too, Like one thing I 722 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: kind of peeped as we're in like the big unit meetings, 723 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: just even when he's talking about coveragers bucks rying that 724 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: because he'll know, like, all right, like if we're in 725 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: dis coverage, I'll have this amount of time to you know, 726 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: get to the quarterback or I could pull out my 727 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: best pass rush moved because I know I'm gonna have 728 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: a little more could we have sticky coverage in the 729 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: back end. So just seeing him have attention to detail 730 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: as far as like the whole scheme and knowing what 731 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: everyone's doing, it kind of like inspires the rest of us, 732 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: you know, kind of follow suit and do the same 733 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: as well. Just being smarter on the field, and you know, yeah, 734 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: he's he's just a smart dude on the like he'll 735 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: just see stuff and he'll help the rest of us, 736 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, like a real key factor in our in 737 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 2: our in our defense. 738 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: So I've asked a couple couple of your teammates, like 739 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: who gives off the most dead energy on the team, 740 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and they've all said it's Buck. 741 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll probably say Buck, and then right after that, 742 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: I'll probably say Grove. Yeah. Yeah. 743 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're the two experienced guys in the middle. 744 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: We just kind of bring that that steadiness. I could 745 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: see Buck is like the Grove is like kind of 746 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: the goofy dad. 747 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah for sure. Yeah, come in, buzz Joe. It's 748 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: making fun of you. But at the same time, like 749 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: he'll show you love. 750 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know. 751 00:29:59,720 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 752 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: What's something about playing in the NFL that someone who 753 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: doesn't play in the NFL couldn't really understand. 754 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: I'd probably say, like, there's off time, but at the 755 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: same time, it's not really off time. It's like we 756 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: have an off season. But if you want to, you know, 757 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: be special, if you want to be elite, you're damn 758 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: near training all season long, You're taking care of your 759 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: body all year long, and you have you need to 760 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 2: have to have a routine for in season, off season, 761 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: you know, just being attentive to like what you put 762 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: into your body, how you're training, how long you're training. 763 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: You have to factor into vacation time. Everything has to 764 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: be like on a schedule because once the season ends, 765 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: like you're on the you're on the clock. You have 766 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: so many so much time until we come back to OTA. 767 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: You have to make sure you prepare for OTAs. While 768 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: we're in we're getting better with the team, learning new scheme, 769 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: whatever it may be. And then once we break that 770 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: little month and have time, you're preparing again for camp. 771 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: And then once it begins to camp, it's like the 772 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: grind never stops, you know, so it's like a never 773 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: ending cycle. So the sacrifices, I would say first and foremost, 774 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: and then just like being like a real person outside 775 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: of you know, having the jersey on, the helmet on, 776 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: because you know, we have responsibility as far as like 777 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: wives and girlfriends and kids and stuff like that, and 778 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, this is a real busy job where it's 779 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: from you know, sometimes five am to late night. 780 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: You told me your schedule out of like what your 781 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: Friday schedule was once and I was like, I genuinely, 782 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: I had no idea. 783 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you know, and like when I come home, 784 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: it's like I go straight to sleep. And you know, 785 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: if you have kids, you have a partner or whatever, 786 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: you have to factor all that into and it's like, yeah, so, 787 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: I mean it's very hard. But at the same time, 788 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: we're blessed to be where we are. We're living the dream, 789 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: living on our childhood dreams, and you know, just we're 790 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: just blessed. 791 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: All right. Last one, I asked this question of couple 792 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: of years ago, but I'm bringing it back. If football 793 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: never existed, sport never existed, what are you doing professionally? 794 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: What are you playing professionally? 795 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: Like what sport professionally? 796 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: Because I mean, you're you're a really good athlete. You 797 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: could probably have made it in another sport. 798 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: So my first sport was track. I would like to 799 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: think I could play basketball, but I'm just I'm too short. 800 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm six two and I'm just yeah, I don't like 801 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: i'd be I'd be a Josh Hart. I would be 802 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I could be a guard, but yeah, passing 803 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: the ball out, I'll give you about ten points, but 804 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a second after guy. 805 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: You Okay, I think I think that would be my 806 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: role double yeah. 807 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if not that, man, I ran track all 808 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: the way through high school. You know. My sophomore year 809 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: I was drank like seventh amongst all sophomores in the country, 810 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: and long jump I jumped twenty two to six. I 811 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: was the anchor of my four by one team. You're 812 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: the anchor on a four by one Yeah, yes, sir. 813 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: And then we went to Nationals every year anchored there 814 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: and then yeah, man, like my like, we want to 815 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: stay every year. I had points and shot put, long jump, 816 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: one hundred meters, dash two hundred meters like I was 817 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: you know. 818 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you think you would have 819 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: ran at the combine because there was no combining year 820 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: you came out. 821 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh combine for forty yard dash. Yeah. So my 822 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: pro day I did a four or five to two 823 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: at two sixty something. I was like two sixty five. 824 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: Just so our listeners and viewers know that's insane. 825 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I surprised myself with the bench honestly, like, 826 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 2: going through combine prep, I was only able to hit 827 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: like thirty on the bench. But then like pro they 828 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: like I just got like a shoot of like adrenaline 829 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: and I hit thirty six on the bench and that 830 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: was my pr. I was, yeah, I pr that day. 831 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Didn't you have some legeny like three cone? 832 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: My three cone was six three seven, and that's like 833 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: that's better than most most dvs. 834 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so if only a chance to pull those 835 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: out pretty pay. Appreciate your time, man, thanks, coming on. 836 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: All right. 837 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: I'm joined by Colt's wide receiver Ashton Dueling. What year 838 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: is this for you? 839 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 2: Now? This is year seven. 840 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: You're seven when you came out of Malone University, which 841 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: no longer is a football program. And if someone would 842 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: have told you you're going to be seven years into 843 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: the NFL with a very stable career, what would you 844 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: have thought in that moment? 845 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 5: I would have said, I appreciate the compliment and the high. 846 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 5: The high thought of me been crazy to think about 847 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: as a kid, you know, as you know, Kay, you 848 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 5: dream of stuff like this. 849 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing it right now. I know. 850 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 5: I just make my family probably and everybody around me. 851 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: So that's that's that's one thing I do it for 852 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 5: is just for them. So I couldn't be more more 853 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 5: proud of myself and my family. 854 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: The odds are stacked an undrafted free agent because the team, 855 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't commit a draft pick to you. 856 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: You've got to consistently prove yourself. You've done that and 857 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: you've earned two contract extensions from the Colts. How do 858 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: you kind of continue and keep that mindset, that like 859 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: undrafted mindset even in year seven to kind of fuel 860 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: your role and your position on this team. 861 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 5: I think it just it just makes me feel feel 862 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 5: good the fact that you know, this organization believes in me, 863 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 5: but just believing myself as well. Like you said, undrafted guys, 864 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 5: you know they kind of not to say they're to 865 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 5: behind already, but they have a little bit more, you know, 866 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 5: work to put in as far as earning their their reputation, 867 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 5: earning their role in the team. And I think for 868 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 5: me that was a mindset I kind of had, was 869 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 5: knowing that I got to come in and work every 870 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: day regardless of you know, where you come from or 871 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 5: what you do and who's ahead of you. Just got 872 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 5: to put your head down to work. 873 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Do you like look back in it and realize, like 874 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: I could not have screwed up like early on in 875 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: my career, because you know, one one mistake for an 876 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, You're you're out the door. 877 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 5: Sometimes, Yeah, that's that's kind of how it feels. To 878 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 5: say that's perfect is not what the case was. I 879 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 5: definitely made my shared mistakes, but to learn from that 880 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 5: is probably the biggest thing and not make that same 881 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 5: mistakes twice. Grow from them. The mistakes you made, the 882 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 5: failures and nothing but successes. So turn those failures into 883 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 5: success and then you'll you'll see yourself grow. 884 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: How have you viewed yourself as like a veteran and 885 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: like the experienced guy, whether it's in the wide receiver room, 886 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: the special teams room, you know, guy who has had 887 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: a lot of experiences in the NFL. 888 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 5: For me, I just try to come in and do 889 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 5: my job every day, knowing that more of a lead 890 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 5: by example type of guy, just going on in the 891 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 5: field and working on and off the field, doing what 892 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 5: needs to be done in the in the treatment room, 893 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 5: in the weight room, film you know, because this game 894 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 5: is is more than just just on the field. It 895 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 5: takes a lot of stuff to do outside of the 896 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 5: facility and then taking care of your body and stuff 897 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 5: like that. So for me, it was just being a 898 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 5: pro to right way. 899 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: That's something that you know, the the other stuff that 900 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: you have to do. I think it's hard to understand 901 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: that if you aren't a player in the NFL. Do 902 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: you think do you think people get the full scope 903 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: of like all the work you have to put in, 904 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: the hours of treatment, the sacrifices you have to make 905 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: to even just get on the field for a practice, 906 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: let alone a game. 907 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 5: I don't think sometimes people don't understand that it's the 908 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 5: full time job. When I explain people that I'm in 909 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: the building from some days from seven in the morning 910 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: to you know, six o'clock at night, They're like, really, 911 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: I have to just go to practice for a couple hours. 912 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: Like, no, it's it's a job. 913 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 5: Like you're there from from sun up to sundown and 914 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 5: even after that when when when you're out the building, 915 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 5: you're still working because you still got to make sure 916 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 5: you're eating right, washing film, getting the proper rest, and 917 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 5: then getting up and doing all over again. 918 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: The eating right part, Like, do you do you have 919 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: like a week in the off season where you can 920 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: like have like a pizza or something or like it's 921 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: just like doesn't have to constantly be a thought of yours. 922 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 5: See, all season is definitely a time where I can 923 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 5: kind of sit back and unbuckled the belt buckle to 924 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 5: slay the least and just just kind of pig out 925 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 5: for a little bit. But not too crazy though, because 926 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 5: you know, because you have to get back to working 927 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 5: out and and and getting back to that routine. But 928 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 5: there's definitely a period of time where I'm not worrying 929 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 5: about what I'm eating. 930 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: Does your like does your body almost like reject it? 931 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: Though? 932 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: I mean seven years in like, because I think if 933 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: you're if you're if I to guess if your body's 934 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: used to eating you know, lean proteins and veggies and 935 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, complex carbs and all these things that like, 936 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: once you get away from that for a little bit, 937 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: your body's like what are you? What are you doing here? 938 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 5: Like it's it's your body kind of you wake up 939 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 5: the next morning you're like, oh, I definitely ate you know, 940 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 5: a cheeseburger and some had some French fries with with 941 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 5: with bacon and cheese on it. 942 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: But you know, you enjoyed the same time. 943 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 5: Your mentals like, yeah, I kind of needed that just 944 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 5: kind of sit back and relax and kind of just 945 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 5: enjoy the food. 946 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: What do you have to do to take care of 947 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: your mental in the off season, you know, outside of 948 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe just saying hey, I can go out that cheese burner. 949 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 5: You know, I think for me, it's just being around 950 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 5: my family. That's probably the biggest thing for me is 951 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 5: I'm a big family guy. So having that time just 952 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 5: to sit back and kind of not worry about football 953 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: and just take vacations, go out whatever it is, just 954 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 5: have a good time and kind of just sit back 955 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 5: in the backyard and relax and then just enjoy the weather, 956 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 5: whatever it may be. Where if we're at it's kind 957 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 5: of my my sit back and relax and just enjoy it. 958 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: What's your aspirational vacation spot, Like, where do you want 959 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: to go. 960 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 5: I'm a big Arizona guy. I go out to Arizona 961 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 5: probably every off season, whether it's to train or just 962 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 5: to go out of vacation. Like this pass off season 963 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: with the took some of my friends all took a 964 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 5: little vacation out the Arizona and just just good to 965 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 5: just kind of sit back and there's no beach involved, 966 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 5: but it's always hot, but the weather's not too crazy. 967 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 5: It's kind of like eighty five, nice little breeze but 968 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 5: in the summertime it gets to like one ten. But 969 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 5: I still love it even though it's still one hundred 970 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 5: and ten degrees. I'm like, give it to me. I 971 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 5: don't care. It's whatever. It's the per vacation spot for me. 972 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: You're more of a mountains guy than a beach guy, I. 973 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: Would say, so. 974 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoy the water, but I'm not gonna 975 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 5: get into the beach all the time, just because you know, 976 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 5: there's a lot of what they say, sharks, I saw 977 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff. You don't know, a lot of 978 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 5: unknowns out there, you know. 979 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel you feel you. So my kids 980 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: take like two steps into the beach and you know, 981 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: it's like a like a like at the lake, and 982 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. 983 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 5: There's something I don't know. You know what I'm saying, 984 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 5: like is the the ocean is too vastable. Plays we 985 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 5: haven't explored everything, so we don't know what's done at ourselves. 986 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 5: So it's for me, it's just give me a nice 987 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 5: little view atv ride a little bit, and then just enjoy. 988 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: It, all right. So I asked you this question a 989 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I've brought it back just 990 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 1: for this podcast. If football never existed, what sport would 991 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: you be doing professionally right now? 992 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 5: I think I have probably the same answer. That'd be 993 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 5: running track. Yeah, I'd be a hurdler for sure. That 994 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 5: was my sport all growing up THEYD in college as well, 995 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 5: so I'll definitely be on the track. 996 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 1: So the hurdles, what distance are you hurdling at four hundred? 997 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: So I was just talking to Jalen Jones about like 998 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: the four hundred was his event, and he's like, you 999 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: got the one hundred and two hundred, those are sprints, 1000 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: but he's like, the four hundred, you gotta you gotta 1001 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: have like the mental fortitude to push through those last 1002 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: hundred meters. 1003 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But he's we. 1004 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: Were talking about Sidney McLoughlin like in the four hundred, 1005 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: because she's running the hurdles faster than people are running 1006 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: the four hundred. Flash, how do you have to like 1007 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: what is your mentality you have to be to run 1008 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: the four hundred hurdles? 1009 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 5: I mean it's pretty much like a four hundred. You 1010 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 5: gotta attack it like you gotta have the endurance of 1011 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 5: a distance runner. But the sprinter, the sprints of a sprinter, 1012 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 5: it's it's really when you said that last hundred is 1013 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 5: whatever you got left. Uh, you kind of you kind 1014 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 5: of treat that first three hundred like it's all out sprint. 1015 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 5: And then they always say, like the analogy is you 1016 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 5: get to get the monkey on your back for the 1017 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 5: last hundred meters and then just kind of whatever heart 1018 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 5: you got, you know, finish it off. 1019 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: But it's definitely it's not for the week, I tell 1020 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: you that. 1021 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: But the hurdle aspect of it, I can't even fathom, 1022 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: like running that far and then also you got to 1023 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: jump over these things. What technique do you need to 1024 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: do that? 1025 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 5: For me, it was just whatever leg comes up that 1026 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 5: has to lead, that's the leg that that leads. Some 1027 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 5: guys like to try to count their steps. For me, 1028 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 5: it was just I just go just run, you know, 1029 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 5: whatever leg comes up, that's the leg I go over with. 1030 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 5: And then I think about it after the fact. I 1031 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 5: failed probably one time in my whole career in the 1032 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 5: four hundred hurdles. Wasn't happy about it, got out finished whatever, 1033 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 5: But some people got technique. 1034 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 2: I just go out and run, all right. 1035 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: So if you're building a team of four hundred hurdles 1036 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: on the colts, your teammates. Who are you taking with? 1037 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: If you're the anchor, who you taking with? 1038 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 2: Let's see, that's a great question. I think I'll go on, 1039 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: why fight Kenny? Be good? Kind of good. 1040 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 5: I think Kenny has had some good injury. I probably 1041 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: take Kenny. Kenny my first leg, I go Alec Pearce. 1042 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 5: I know Ale can run. I got a pretty good speed. 1043 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 5: I go Alec Pierce, and I go add nine. Okay, yeah, 1044 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 5: I think that'd be my three, right. 1045 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: I like it three. I mean you gave the DBS 1046 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: a shout there. I did three other wide receivers. 1047 00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1048 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 5: I think I think Kenny will be able to hold 1049 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 5: up pretty well, and he has the endurance for it. 1050 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 1: I could see that he's got the mental. 1051 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: Ford take to keep going. 1052 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: Ashton Dole appreciate your time here on the podcast. 1053 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: Thanks m