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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: He's up Straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire

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Speaker 2: for Wednesday, July twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got a good interview today.

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Speaker 2: You are gonna love this one. Spoke with Sean King,

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Speaker 2: the former NFL quarterback Tampa Bay Bucks. He's done a

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Speaker 2: bunch of media talk about everything under the sun. Is

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Speaker 2: NFL training camps open, It's time to get excited for football, folks.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: fans want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a

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Speaker 1: guy who does. Let's just say I know.

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Speaker 2: A guy who knows a guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight Fire. A guy you

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Speaker 2: probably know, especially Tampa Bay Bucks fans, Sean King, former

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Speaker 2: NFL QB. He was in Tampa, Arizona a brief stint

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Speaker 2: Detroit the Colt Shawn. How you doing, my man?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm excellent, man. How you doing, Jay? Thanks for

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Speaker 3: having me on. It's been a minute. I missed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's been a little while. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, I saw the temperature was kind of warm

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Speaker 2: in Vegas. Well, you know, one O five, one ten. Uh,

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Speaker 2: So I figured I bring you on. You could sit inside.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be outside chasing kids around at

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Speaker 2: the Vegas pool scene. Huh. You prefer being indoors? Huh?

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Speaker 3: I do. I do. But speaking of the pool, all

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Speaker 3: my kids now at least think they can swim. We

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Speaker 3: making a lot of progress in their regards.

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Speaker 2: You don't need a heater for the pool in Vegas, right, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Not at all. No, it's it's basically a sauna. It's

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Speaker 2: Nice. Nice. I wanted to bring you on because there's

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Speaker 2: so much happening in the NFL as we get into

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Speaker 2: get to. But the big news that went down recently

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Speaker 2: don't want to sign me. I don't like the deal.

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Speaker 2: I want to be traded. And this was like the

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Speaker 2: fourth bullet that he fired. First it was, you know,

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Speaker 2: Hey I want out.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Training cants open this week, Sean. And would you guess

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Speaker 2: who showed up Brandon Ayuk? Did I guess he didn't

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Speaker 2: want to get fined? I'm just curious, you know your

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Speaker 2: back in the day where hey, man, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to get fined, so I'm showing up, but I'm really

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of it has to

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Speaker 3: do with leverage, Jay Soon, what's Hyuk's leverage having? Right,

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Speaker 3: He's still under contract with San Francisco, but they really

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for a Yuk because I don't think

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Speaker 3: like I've never made a big bag. This may be

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Speaker 3: It's not my fault that every time we get inside

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Speaker 2: So you think Yuk is on part with and like

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Speaker 3: And ironically, it looks like if you're in that top

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Speaker 3: Well, I think when these situations occur, you know, I

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Speaker 2: What about going on TikTok and complaining to I forget

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Speaker 3: It's no different than Colin It's no different than Kyler

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Speaker 3: you know, these gen zs communicate, you know, they don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the other big story to stick with quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, And so they're like, you know, we

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Speaker 3: And so Green Bays like, yeah, we want to pay you,

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Speaker 3: we're not gonna pay you fifty plus million a year.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys are kind of saying that Dak Prescott, you know,

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Speaker 2: See it's tough because on one hand, I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: but on the other hand, it's like even if the

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Speaker 2: I'll I mean, I've talked about this on the podcast

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Speaker 3: Jason, let me ask your question, is to a top

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Speaker 2: Football top five? I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: If he redoes his contract at the current market value,

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Speaker 3: he'll be paid like one of the top five quarterbacks in.

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Speaker 2: The Well that's where it gets tricky. And Dyler Murray, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Wyler Murray got I think forty six million year, but

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Speaker 2: that was two years ago. Now, I'm fine paying to

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Speaker 2: more than ni Kyla? Fine, fine, forty eight, forty nine, fine,

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Speaker 2: But I can't. I can't do fifty.

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Speaker 3: I just ca and the Dolphins are telling too of

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Speaker 3: what Trevor Lawrence just got. Look what Justin Herbert just got.

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Speaker 2: Well, Justin Herbert is a tough one because he don't

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Speaker 2: not a barometer, but I think Trevor Lawrence has one

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Speaker 2: playoff win. Now, Lamar Jackson has two MVPs. So if

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Speaker 2: if Jordan loves Camp brings up Lamar Jackson, I think

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Speaker 2: that's a non starter. WHOA, he's got two MVPs. You

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Speaker 2: have an eight game stretch, bro. You know, even after.

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Speaker 3: One year starting is the most accomplished playoff quarterback of

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Speaker 3: all of Trevor Lawrence two and Justin Herbert. Green Bay

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Speaker 2: Think just the Dallas game they won. But still you're right,

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Speaker 2: that's well.

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Speaker 3: They didn't win to the North though, right, No, you.

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Speaker 3: But when you've had some level of accomplishment, which tool

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let Jacksonville overpaying Trevor Lawrence, you know,

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting because you said it's too a top

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Speaker 3: to me, that's what Tool, Trevor, Jordan Love, even Just

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Speaker 2: So, Dan, that's a that's a pretty spicy take that

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is as good as he's gonna get. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Dallas is totally screwed because Dak wants like sixty. He

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Speaker 2: and now you're shifted. You know, that's such a big

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Speaker 3: I don't have it in front of me, Jay, but

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Speaker 2: It's got to be close to fifty, if not over fifty, right.

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Speaker 3: I would see they're saying ceedee, Lamb and Parsons are

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Speaker 2: Those guys aren't winning you Jack squad, right, I know.

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Speaker 3: I wonder is it And I don't know this for facts.

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Speaker 3: doing it out loud. Has Trey Has Trey Lance shown

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Speaker 2: It's funny that you say Trey Lance because my first

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't even know if Dallas knows that, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating. I'm just telling you, I think you're

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Speaker 2: I'm all for that and I think the biggest test

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Speaker 2: don't know, Sean, you were a quarterback, I wonder who's

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Speaker 2: you know what, We're gonna ride the quarterback on his

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Speaker 2: starting in like year three and four, we're gonna start

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Speaker 2: not gonna We're not gonna pay sixty mili for a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna start recycling and we're hoping our system

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Speaker 2: You've got to have to end a quarterback draft Penix,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to pay Tua and you move on

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Speaker 2: because Pennix was ready, right, he was like, he's like

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Speaker 3: They kind of did it with Pennix this year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: They gave him like a hundred million domes right, more

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Speaker 2: Year, same year.

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Speaker 2: The forty nine ers really are fascinating because I mean, again,

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Speaker 2: But like, how do you just move on from that?

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Speaker 2: once you pay the quarterback, the infrastructure falls away. We're

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Speaker 2: and you know this is t higgins final year. Right,

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: But the sad part for if your Bengal fan, T

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Speaker 3: familiar with T. Higgins because Jamar Chase kind of had

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Speaker 3: such a great rookie year and he's a sad, fabulous,

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Speaker 3: fantastic player. T Higgins is a top ten wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, I like him, but top ten?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, I gotta put you on the spot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with the guys. I'll give you Justin, Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 3: I think Higgins and Jamaras are just as they're good

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Speaker 3: I think A. J. Biden is really good, but I

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got Jefferson, Tyreek, Chase Lamb. I got

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Speaker 3: I think Higgins better than Mark Saint Brown just got paid,

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Speaker 3: He just kind of gets over shadowed sometimes because Chase

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Speaker 2: Or is it because Chase commands number one defensive backs

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Speaker 3: Te Higgins is more accomplish than I you. I think

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Speaker 2: Scary, Terry McLaurin or T Higgins.

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Speaker 3: Oh, T Higgins and I like mccaully.

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Speaker 2: Boy, are you related to? I gotta ask Jason.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the more overrated talents in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: T Higgins is that guy? Go go go watch some

434
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Speaker 3: tape after this interview, Just go and break down some

435
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Speaker 3: T Higgins for he is phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Hold up, I'm not even looking on the list. I

437
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 2: don't see is he. He wasn't even in the top day.

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Speaker 2: I gotta be missing him. He top fifty for receptions.

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Speaker 2: Is that real? He must have missed some time last year.

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Speaker 3: Remember Joe Burrow missed time as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the backup had them in contention, didn't he?

442
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Speaker 2: I mean, Nico Collins had a monster year.

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Speaker 3: He had a bigger year the teams on the scene.

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Speaker 2: He absolutely Oh, I forgot my guy, Gary Wilson, who

445
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 2: has been playing with no quarterback Garret Wilson in the Jets.

446
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Speaker 2: He's definitely better.

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Speaker 3: I think he just got to do it again. He

448
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: had a monster first year and then Rogers gets hurt

449
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 3: last year and he didn't really have a great year.

450
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Speaker 3: I had him in fantasy, so even Jesse, if you

451
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Speaker 3: go by statistics, I actually watched the game. I felt

452
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Speaker 3: like the Jets from prime time every week.

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Speaker 2: So T Higgins did miss five games last year. Oh

454
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Speaker 2: my gosh. He had forty two catches for six hundred

455
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Speaker 2: and fifty six yards. Mm hm wow, those are very

456
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Speaker 2: mid numbers.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he's good. He missed five games, and Burrow missed

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Speaker 3: of games as well.

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Speaker 2: Burrow did miss and the year. Listen. I like Higgins.

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Speaker 2: He was a start at clumps. He's only twenty five.

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Speaker 2: He's very good. Top I can't go top ten because

462
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Speaker 2: I don't know that he could. He has the route

463
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Speaker 2: running ability of these of these elite receivers. He doesn't

464
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Speaker 2: have the plays a little bigger six fo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just a good check. You gotta trust me

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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 2: He's got trust well, like the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I've been on your show multiple times. If we fact

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Speaker 3: checked the things I've said, I'm generally pretty spot on,

470
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Speaker 3: especially when it comes the player evaluates.

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Speaker 2: So do you think somebody, somebody's gonna make some move

472
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Speaker 2: on him next year? Right? As a number one, somebody's

473
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Speaker 2: gonna have to because the Bengals cannot afford him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, And I think the reason you see it

475
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Speaker 3: this year is because when you get franchised, not only

476
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Speaker 3: do you have to pay the player, don't you have

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Speaker 3: to give up two ones if you if you trade

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Speaker 3: for someone's franchise tag player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like the Patriots are in dire need.

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Speaker 2: They probably have the worst skill position players in the league.

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Speaker 3: I'm won't wish that on anybody got receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's some teams that are deficient at receivers.

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Speaker 2: So T Higgins is gonna get paid. I like them

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Speaker 2: a lot. I just the leap from being a number

485
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Speaker 2: two to Chase, Like they're not giving safety help over

486
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Speaker 2: the top on T Higgins. It's ISO one on one.

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Speaker 2: You know the you need help on Jamar Chase because

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Speaker 2: you'll just with the yak and over the top. Hmm.

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Speaker 2: So you go T Higgins over my guy, Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry, Deavonte Adams.

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Speaker 3: You know Davonte's top ten? Absolutely yeah, Devonte is a guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a dude.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean you like the Bengals to come out

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Speaker 2: of the AFC. Let's get your h It's early, but

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Speaker 2: playoff type picks. Who's in the NFC A AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: I'm going long shot in the NFC, I'm going with

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Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams. I love Sean McVay. Those young

502
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Speaker 3: guys are playing their butt off. He added the two

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Speaker 3: d linemen from Florida State, Jared versus Brandon Fist. I

504
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Speaker 3: think it's Brandon Fist to kind of help alleviate, you know,

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Speaker 3: Donald retiring, but man pooping the cool you know, kyriing

506
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Speaker 3: a running back. Stafford's still rolling. Like I love McVeigh.

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Speaker 3: I think the Rams are are kind of a dark

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Speaker 3: course to really make some noise. And I feel that

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Speaker 3: way because I don't think outside of San Francisco and

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Speaker 3: potentially Detroit, who we've got to see them do it again?

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Speaker 3: The NFC is super super top heavy.

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Speaker 2: No mention of the Eagles, huh.

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Speaker 3: I just think the Eagles got internal lackability problems, Like

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Speaker 3: they don't play like a group that likes each other.

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Speaker 3: They don't play like they like Sirianni, Like when it

516
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Speaker 3: came out that Sirianni had like an end game like Soulmate,

517
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Speaker 3: you know, mascarading as the head of security just to

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Speaker 3: keep his emotions intact. It kind of makes sense why

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Speaker 3: you see so much bad body language from AJ Brown

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Speaker 3: and Jalen Hurks and some of those guys. And so

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Speaker 3: I think they really miss Jonathan Gannon and Shane Sticking.

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Speaker 3: I really think the Eagles missed them from just a

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Speaker 3: inter relationship standpoint. So I'm not as high on the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: They're talented, I'm not as higling them as some people.

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Speaker 3: If we move to the AFC, I think whoever wins

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Speaker 3: the AFC North, I don't want to cop out, but

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Speaker 3: in some kind of way, Pittsburgh can pull off this brand.

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Speaker 3: Now you trade, I think Pittsburgh's legit man, even if

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Speaker 3: it's Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. Pittsburgh didn't need Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl quarterback play. They just needed above average quarterback play,

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Speaker 3: and I think they get it with either one of

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Speaker 3: those guys. You gotta love Cincinnati. If Borough can stay healthy,

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Speaker 3: you know, then of course Baltimore. They've kind of been

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Speaker 3: to one team, you know, it's been the most consistent,

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Speaker 3: you know, over the last five six years. So I'm

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Speaker 3: probably not as how on the Browns, but I'm the AFC.

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Speaker 3: I'm going whoever wins the AFC.

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Speaker 2: North to come out and play in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yes, what they were in.

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Speaker 2: No Jets, No Jets, no Bills.

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Speaker 3: Overrated organization in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They have, No, I can't argue with that. The first place.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback, the quarterback miss mandatory training camp to go on vacation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, that's a nothing burger. By the way,

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Speaker 2: was he in the league when you were drafted or no?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think he was a year after me.

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Speaker 2: You were ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Was it Rogers two thousand or was it a

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Speaker 3: little bit later than that?

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Speaker 2: No, I think he was probably like two thousand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he was at the end of your career.

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Speaker 2: All right, how about this when you were playing any

553
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Speaker 2: fun stories about teammates who were just awful guy, just

554
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Speaker 2: rotten human beings just not fun to be around. Like

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Speaker 2: you were in some rough locker rooms Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 3: I was, but I'm not RG three, So I don't

557
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Speaker 3: kiss and tell. I don't writ in the White Tell

558
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Speaker 3: All books about what happened in the locker room. Just

559
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: say the NFL locker room is very colorful. It's everything

560
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Speaker 3: America used to be as far as unabashedly honest, like

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Speaker 3: and if you're sensitive then you'll you'll get eaten up

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Speaker 3: in the NFL locker room. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So you just can't take anything personally. Nothing did people

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Speaker 2: try to make it personal. No, it's just a whole

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Speaker 2: they're your teammates. Are you going to really be successful

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Speaker 2: if if like people are saying stuff that's going to

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Speaker 2: get under people's skin, like is that gonna work?

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Speaker 3: Well, sometimes you got to call the yard.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, like look at male lions, like at

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Speaker 3: some point, like the dominant male lion kind of loses

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Speaker 3: his teeth. You know, you don't have the energy to

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Speaker 3: fight like you used to, and some younger guys take

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Speaker 3: it over like it's like that, you know, if it's

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00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: a bunch of alpha males that got there because they

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Speaker 3: were the best at what they do most cases, and

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Speaker 3: there is some Okay, who's the baddest, biggest, you know

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Speaker 3: dog you know on the yard.

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Speaker 2: But you were a as a quarterback. You saw that.

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Speaker 2: I could see that like defensive tackle, tough guys, linebackers,

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Speaker 2: that quarterback you're seeing that stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's a dog eat dog world in a real quarterback role.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me call up when you were drafted

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Speaker 2: to Tampa.

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Speaker 3: I want to call it Trent Dilford.

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Speaker 2: Trent Dilfer was in your quarterback room.

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Speaker 3: Okay, starter, yeah, and I'll tell you this story. So

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Speaker 3: my first every game in the NFL, we're playing the

589
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: New York Siants were in Tampa. I looked in the mirror, okay,

590
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: but fresh clean. This is everything I thought it would be.

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00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: You know, my sleeves are just right, and I got

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Speaker 3: my knee pads tucked just on the top of my knee,

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00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: so I don't get fine. But you know, I got

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: enough of my leggings showing so that it looks real. Fly. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I sit in the locker and Trent Dilford sits down

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Speaker 3: next to me and he says, hey, rook, I just

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00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: got great news. And this is the opener, and we're

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Speaker 3: home and I look at your I's like, what's up,

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00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: big dog? He said, Tony said, he's introducing the defense.

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Speaker 3: Trent Dilford was so terrified that the fan base was

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Speaker 3: gonna boo him if they announced the offense that he

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Speaker 3: was a static. Tony said, we're announcing the defense because

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Speaker 3: a lot of you don't notice they only announced one

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Speaker 3: side of the ball, like generally before the game, like

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Speaker 3: what they call everybody's name. So that was my intro

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Speaker 3: to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So wait, so Dilferd convinced Tony Dungee to announce it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he convinced him. When Tony told him,

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Speaker 3: he was relieved. He was terrified that they were going

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Speaker 3: to announce the offense.

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Speaker 2: And the thought hadn't he already had he won the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl with Baltimore yet?

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Speaker 3: Or no, no, no, he was still in Tampa. He

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Speaker 3: was won to Baltimore after Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So so I'm trying to remember, like Dilford does

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Speaker 2: come on the herd sometimes and you know he uh,

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Speaker 2: he's going to eat forever because he was a super

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Speaker 2: Bowl winning quarterback even though you know, we know he

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Speaker 2: didn't do that much. I don't know what was it like,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, you you started. It looks like a

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Speaker 2: bunch of games that year for was dilf.

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Speaker 3: So he I think he threw like two or three

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Speaker 3: interceptions that game. That it was crazy. But like he

624
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: had been like an enigmatic like player for the Bucks

625
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Speaker 3: because he was a first round draft pick out of Fresno,

626
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Speaker 3: had inherited a really bad Bucks team. But as Warren

627
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: Staff and John Lynch and all those guys had become

628
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Speaker 3: like perennial Pro Bowl players, Trent was still kind of inconsistent,

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Speaker 3: and I think the fan base kind of blamed him

630
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Speaker 3: for the Bucks not having achieved more. And so it

631
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: was kind of alway his love hate relationship with him

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Speaker 3: and the fan base, at least the year that I

633
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Speaker 3: was there. And so he actually got benched during the

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Speaker 3: season for Eric Zier. We went to Detroit and they

635
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: had played Zire. I think Zaire got hurt in that game.

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Speaker 2: So Zaire, the guy from Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he got the starting job back, and then he

638
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: broke his collup on at Seattle and I started like

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Speaker 3: the last seven games I think that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like final five games he started. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So and then they got rid of trend after the season, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, and I became a full time starter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So and you were on the team with Warren

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Speaker 2: Sapp and all those big time outfits. How were that?

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Speaker 2: How was that lovely?

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Speaker 3: We had five Hall of famers in the building when

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Speaker 3: I got drafted to Tampa. Wow, Tony Dungee, re Rende Barber,

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Speaker 3: Derrick Brooks, Warren Sap, John Lynch.

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Speaker 2: Geez, that is it? I mean? How was the offense though?

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Speaker 2: Oh yet ward done? Yeah, I'm a huge work done war.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome. You can see all the resources were on

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Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, your jock Kass Green Quezi from Gators. How

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Speaker 2: was I works at FS one? How was it like

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Speaker 2: working with Keshawn Johnson?

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Speaker 3: Ke was cool? Like I think the issue Key had

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Speaker 3: was being from California. He had kind of always I think,

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Speaker 3: went back home when he was with the Jets, and

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Speaker 3: like most of the Bucks guys were Florida boys to

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Speaker 3: be honest, you know, Warrick played for LSU, Sapp played

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Speaker 3: for Miami, Brooks played for FSU. Like, so most of

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Speaker 3: us lived in Tampa and were there in present and

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Speaker 3: I kind of think like Key and some of the

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Speaker 3: like superstars on the team didn't get off on the

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Speaker 3: best foot because he wasn't there. He wasn't as present,

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Speaker 3: you know, as they anticipated. But I mean ultimately we

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Speaker 3: won a championship. He was a big piece of it.

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Speaker 3: You know, Key's Key, Sap and South Like just listen

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Speaker 3: to Alpha Dog. Sometimes they're gonna butt heads. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: stop you from winning. You know this in college, Like

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Speaker 3: everybody don't go to the local bar and get penny

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Speaker 3: beers after the game, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: everybody goes home, does their own thing anyway for the

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Speaker 3: most part, So I mean it's a great experience.

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Speaker 2: Dang man. All right, well, shout and kick great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy Vegas. Uh, you didn't give me an official super

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Speaker 2: Bowl pick, but I'm not gonna try to pay you.

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Speaker 3: Whoever wins the AFC North Well, that.

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Speaker 2: Is that's wild, bro. Oh my gosh, Rams, I don't

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Speaker 2: even have them in the playoffs. Oh anyways, all right, uh,

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Speaker 2: all right, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Right now he's gonna I.

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Speaker 2: Like McVeigh, I like Bigveg. Tell him that. Yeah. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: all right, buddy, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, Thanks for having