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Speaker 1: I hit record on this. That's myself, Eddie and kick.

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Speaker 2: Off, Kevin and Eddie. You were a band in high school?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, same band.

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Speaker 2: Rum Tie the whole time, dude.

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Speaker 3: Even in Well, I was in a little band called

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Speaker 3: sprung Monkey.

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Speaker 2: That's a good name. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: And I just did a couple of shows with them.

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Speaker 3: I was I think I'd say that's a.

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Speaker 1: Good name for a band, sprung Monkey. That was high

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Speaker 1: school sprung Monkey, sung Monkey, sprung Monkey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. What was that name for. I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't even my band. They just needed a singer

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Speaker 3: for a second because they were just instrumental. Mean, I'll

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Speaker 2: God cool.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever be in an instrumental band unless you

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Speaker 1: were like Beto?

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Speaker 2: They were like jazz guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's cool. Then you thinking push with the jazz.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I changed them up. I was like, dude,

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Speaker 2: Did you watch the Barbie movie? No, not yet. I

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Speaker 2: won to push you around.

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Speaker 3: They played that I laou we laowu dude. Let me

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Speaker 3: tell you what's cool about movies right now is that

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Speaker 3: And my kids are listening to like Space Hog because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, this is awesome. It's so cool.

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Speaker 1: They listen spung Monkey, not sprung Monkey.

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Speaker 2: It sprung Monkey ever get famous?

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Speaker 4: Nah?

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Speaker 2: Nah? They only played coffee shops and there, so it

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Speaker 2: was not another band named sprung Monkey.

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Speaker 1: Oh, sprung Monkey, Mike, where you go go Sprung Monkey,

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Speaker 1: Arctic Monkeys, No, I know, Artic Monkeys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a product Sprung Monkey.

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Speaker 3: We played a couple of coffee shops and then a

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Speaker 1: So you were sprung Monkey. Then rum Tide, then rum Tide.

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Speaker 1: That was my band and rum Tide.

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Speaker 2: Why was it called rum Tide?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. We kind of have like a beach

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Speaker 1: A band exactly. There was a sprung Monkey.

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Speaker 2: I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were in that band if we were active. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we were active, he said anything two songs on them

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Speaker 2: Who we weren't sprong Monkey.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure we were sprong Monkey.

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Speaker 2: Bite Kings.

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Speaker 1: Well, our original name was Conky Bite Kings and we

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Speaker 2: I could just hear the pastor like, hell's wrong with

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Speaker 1: So we were playing. We were playing at churches and

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Speaker 1: we'd play parodies, but to make them Jesus see, so

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Speaker 1: Reading about these bands though, and their biggest shows ever.

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Speaker 1: What was the biggest show Rum Tide played ever?

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Speaker 3: you sang with us at Silker Park. Really yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: Padre Island and there were probably about two hundred people there.

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Speaker 2: They pay you guys. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Rum Tie, tell me the name again, rum Tied because

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Speaker 1: the tides come in.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about band names from history, the Beatles.

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Speaker 2: What do you know about the name of the Beatles?

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Speaker 3: Beat spelled like beat like. Guess they're like a beat,

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Speaker 1: Do you know what John Lennon and Paul McCartney's band

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Speaker 1: was called before the Beatles.

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Speaker 6: Oh, they called.

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Speaker 3: No Kevin the Coryman, like like a quarry, like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Hugh, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Kevin music trivia. Ready, I'll give you the members

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Speaker 1: Ed you'll know Edie'll know all these. Adam Clayton, Larry

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Speaker 2: Was it Bono? It's so confused, said mine? Yes, Chris Novacelic,

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Speaker 2: various drummers, Kurt Cobain, Nirvana. Yeah, various drummer ended up drummer.

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Speaker 1: No, they had six before him, Yeah, but he was

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Speaker 1: the drum yes when they busted, Yes, but it said

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Speaker 2: Uh, Tom York, Colin Greenwood.

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Speaker 7: Tom York, Colin Greenwood.

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Speaker 2: Only two dudes. I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: And when you go to their show, The The you

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Speaker 2: Radiohead Okay, can you name Radiohead song?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: But I know if I heard one, I would know it.

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Speaker 2: Now the biggest one? Is it their biggest though? Creep?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it only because they wouldn't play it it became

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Speaker 1: their biggest I think it's their biggest.

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Speaker 2: Sama, creep. I'm a weirdo.

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Speaker 3: What the hell?

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Speaker 1: Yeah that hurt can't get there? Okay, Anthony Keatis.

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Speaker 2: The name flee Oh Red Hot, Tilly Good, that's cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Keith Richards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Stone Gossard, Eddie Vedder, there you go, Pearl

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Speaker 2: jam Did you like him because his name was Eddie?

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Speaker 2: How about Johnny Buckland, Chris Martin, Chris Tony Buck No

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Speaker 2: Martin of Black Ye, my Place and my Place? Hello Yellow?

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Speaker 2: Oh cool boy. Yeah, I've seen the best I've ever been.

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Speaker 2: You've been to their show?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: of any of them?

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Speaker 2: Are em coldplays? Best concert you've been to, best concert

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Speaker 3: Around the room, Eddie Easy, Pearl Jam opening up for

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Speaker 2: You picked the opener.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean you said, Pearl Jam but opening up.

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Speaker 3: No, it's just the whole show. Pearl Jam opening up

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Speaker 3: for you two in Hawaii. It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: Got it? Kevin Coldplay in Barcelona? Wait wait Spain?

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Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait you didn't know Chris Martin was Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I know who Coldplay is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who Chris Martin is. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: the concert was unbolooving in Spain. In Spain, it was cool.

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Speaker 1: Mike d best concert ever post Malone at Exitent in

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Speaker 1: cool bones post Malone at the Conico before he played. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was just singing as he was working in That's right.

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Speaker 1: Probably John Mayer and Minnie Applis was really cool.

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Speaker 3: Garth and Little Rock, What do you mean the one

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Speaker 1: No, that's babe, that was really good. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go a little Dickie in Memphis. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: Your favorite concert is a little hey, little Dicky's legit

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Speaker 1: lo legit.

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Speaker 2: But that's all right.

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Speaker 10: Baby Bash. I'm going I'm going baby bash a little

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Speaker 10: Dicky minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything's rolling with that. My brother got shot.

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan's wait what what Afghanistan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man should have been there.

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Speaker 10: Yes, they're still talking about it today.

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Speaker 1: You have another you have another second favorite, EDDI if

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Speaker 1: you were a listed oh man, let's see, let's see.

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Speaker 1: Let me think about why we had so much traffic.

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Speaker 2: It's three I don't know, and what do we hear?

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Craig Morgan, Matthew Ramsey from Old Dominion,

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Speaker 2: What about you?

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Speaker 1: What odd jobs did you have growing up? Odd? I

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's the reason I'm here to do. I would

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Speaker 5: My dad was a musician. Kingston Springs was home. I

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Speaker 5: an artist in the beginning, you make nothing man on

442
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 5: shows and stuff. In fact, everybody else will be making

443
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 5: money and you want. But I was also making a

444
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 5: little bit in the publishing, and I started getting a

445
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 5: lot of interest in a lot of the songs that

446
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 5: I was writing, so I thought, you know, I might

447
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 5: try it. This is at that point, so I'm gonna

448
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 5: ahead and try it. When I left the Army to

449
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 5: come here to pursue the music, it was not to

450
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 5: pursue it as an artist. It was to pursue it

451
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 5: as a songwriter because I had a wife and two kids,

452
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 5: and I knew that you could make money writing songs,

453
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 5: and I could still do other things to make more money,

454
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 5: you know. And then in the process of writing my

455
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 5: songs and doing that, I was doing my own demos,

456
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: and then I started doing other people's demos, and in

457
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 5: that one year's time it turned into that phone call.

458
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 5: But which was really where where that phone call came from?

459
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 5: Where he heard my music? It wasn't through an an

460
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 5: R team, It wasn't through a publicist or a publisher.

461
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 5: It came from a guy who boarded his horses, who

462
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 5: I knew who every time I would demo my music,

463
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 5: I would take it to him and Jeff would play it.

464
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 5: And this guy, Brian Switzer, happened to be boarding his

465
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 5: horses at Jeff's stables and heard it and ask him

466
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: who is that? And he told him and he called me.

467
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Speaker 1: And he made a decision that he wanted to sign

468
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: you from just listening to a demo.

469
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: Wow, call me and said, can you come in. I

470
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 5: was on my way home from a writing session. Had

471
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 5: had the third shift with the Sheriff's department at that time.

472
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 5: I said, John, He said where are you? And I said,

473
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 5: I'm on Interstate forty, but I can turn around. I

474
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 5: had a jeep wrangler and I'll never forget a cut

475
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 5: across the Interest State, right in the middle of the

476
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 5: Inner State, and turned around and came right back.

477
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Speaker 7: Fifteen minutes.

478
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 5: I was in the office, and they asked me to

479
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 5: sing something and I said, well, I mean, you know,

480
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: they heard one of the demo, I said, singing, I

481
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 5: want to hear you sing it live, Like, well, I

482
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 5: don't really play it's a penis, it's just and Al

483
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 5: Cooley was there. Al Cooley was one of the most

484
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 5: horrendous A and R guys, a brutally beastfully honest A.

485
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Speaker 7: And R guy.

486
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Speaker 5: Looking back, he was one of the best. But I'm

487
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 5: just when we had this reputation of being like mean, terrible, mean,

488
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 5: you know, but what it was, he was honest and

489
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 5: he probably saved a lot of people's lives. And they

490
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 5: had me sing a song called three h two South

491
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 5: Maple Avenue a cappella and so I sang it and

492
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 5: uh literally right sitting like this right here, three oh

493
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 5: two sound me well Avenue and I sing a little

494
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 5: bit and he says, we'd like to sign you to

495
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 5: a record. Jeez yeah, just like that strangest thing ever.

496
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh yeah, sure, he goes you ever

497
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 5: turned me. I'm like yeah, how about management? I'm like

498
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 5: yeah yeah. So I walked out of the office and

499
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 5: I called my wife. No, I did not call my wife.

500
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 5: I did not, cause I got home and I said,

501
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 5: I just got offered a record deal, and she said,

502
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: what did they say? I'm like, I said, they asked

503
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 5: me if I had managers and attorneys.

504
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: What'd you say?

505
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 5: I told him yeah, And she's like, well, you got

506
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 5: a manager, and I'm like, no, we got to find

507
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 5: a manager. I didn't have nothing.

508
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's wild that it all came from a horse.

509
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 5: From a guy who boarded horses.

510
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 4: Crazy.

511
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 5: He owned Joe Goo Quick, the world champion quarter horse

512
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 5: at the time. And I would take in music and

513
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 5: if Jeff liked it, he would let me ride Joe.

514
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 5: And if you didn't like song, he put me.

515
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: Here's Matthew Ramsey from Old Dominion on how he chose

516
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: music after getting his degree in art illustration. When you

517
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Speaker 1: were in Virginia making music, about what year was that

518
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: when you were when you were dedicated to music, but

519
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: you were not in Nashville.

520
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 12: That was probably two thousand and.

521
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Speaker 1: So you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old? Twenty three?

522
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Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, yeah, probably twenty How old am I now?

523
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 13: I'm actually forty three?

524
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then why not move to Nashville?

525
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 14: Then?

526
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: Did you have a different career path in mind where

527
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: you were going to do it from Virginia? Was it

528
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: slightly different than what you've expected.

529
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I mean I went to art school, I

530
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 13: got a degree in illustration, and you know, those are

531
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 13: two I was passionate, I am still passionate about both things,

532
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 13: and I kind of got to the end of college

533
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 13: and thought, I can't half ass both of these things.

534
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 13: I need to focus on one. And music wound up

535
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 13: being the thing I chose. So then I sort of

536
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 13: did you know, I made like a self funded you know, CD,

537
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 13: and just got to the point where I felt like

538
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 13: I had exhausted everything in that area and played everywhere

539
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 13: I could and you know, made my money back on

540
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 13: my CD, and it was time to to take another step.

541
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Speaker 1: The going into art school. What was that plan. Let's

542
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: say the music thing didn't work out, or you were

543
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: at the crossroads and you didn't choose music. I think

544
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: that's the better question, Like what was the plan with

545
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: the illustration what what was a career outlook?

546
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Speaker 7: There?

547
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 13: I mean, there are you know you start to realize

548
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 13: I started to realize on my senior year when you're

549
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 13: you're kind of just doing all these independent studies and things,

550
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 13: and you start to realize that all your professors are

551
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 13: starting to view you as as their competition. So you

552
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 13: start to see like, well, I'm going to be able

553
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 13: to maybe teach or you know, pick up some you know,

554
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 13: magazine illustrations or that drawing.

555
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm talking to me like a dumb guy, because what

556
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: I am.

557
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 13: It's all of it painting, drawing, printmaking, stuff like that.

558
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: So painting a picture on a canvas.

559
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 12: Yeah you can do that.

560
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a good artist like that.

561
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, pretty, I can hold my own.

562
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah do you ever do you do that for fun

563
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: at all? I?

564
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 13: Yes, I mean for I just painted recently a picture

565
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 13: for the first time in a while, which was very

566
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 13: therapeutic and and I want to do it more. I

567
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 13: posted a little thing on my own Instagram of it,

568
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 13: but it's gone now. But like if I was naked,

569
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 13: I took several years of figure drawing classes where someone

570
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 13: would come in and.

571
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: We had those in college. Yeah, and they'd be like

572
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: fifty bucks if you go stand naked up. And I

573
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: was broke, but I wasn't that broke, right.

574
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Speaker 13: I always thought about those people like, man, you must

575
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 13: need this money.

576
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I thought about it in the same way in two ways. Either,

577
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: I was envious of the fact that they had no

578
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: inhibition at all, right, that they would go, hey, whatever,

579
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: if people need to draw something, I'll show my wiener.

580
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 15: Right.

581
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed, and I'm still so embarrassed of

582
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: my wiener that I just would. We had a bit

583
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: on the show one and I'm I mean, I'm a

584
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: quarter joking. I guess, yeah, I mean you're laughing, so

585
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta be like, I'm joking. But we

586
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: had a thing. This is when we were in Austin

587
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: and I was pretty early in my career. I just

588
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: started to build my syndication company. We were doing mostly

589
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: poping hip hop stations, and we were you know, at

590
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: the time, I was a wild and crazy guy. Now

591
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm just got to get in trouble because I say

592
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: things sometimes that the industry doesn't want me to say.

593
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: But then I was just being an idiot for no

594
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: other reason than just being an idiot. And so we

595
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: did a bit where we had an artist come in

596
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: and the loser had to get naked and be drawn,

597
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: and I lost, and I had to sit in a

598
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: room like a closet and he in him. I remember

599
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: him for no other reason, just drawing it the right.

600
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: He had an eyeball, my dog. Yeah, so you did,

601
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: you didn't Wow what I avoided for years? I did

602
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: in a radio segment.

603
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 12: Wow. Well, I mean you faced your fear though, So

604
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 12: that's good.

605
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 16: Right.

606
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: So would you do that to me if I if

607
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: I just like I would like to post nude and

608
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: have you draw a picture.

609
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 12: I don't think I could do that.

610
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: Heath Sanders talks about his crazy journey from working in

611
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: the oil fields to getting a record deal. I'm trying

612
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: to just kind of get a grasp on when you

613
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: started to go, even if it's not for a career.

614
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: I want to go out and sing and make a

615
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: little extra money, because that's what you were doing when

616
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: I met you. You were singing at a bar.

617
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: Right.

618
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 12: Yeah.

619
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Speaker 17: So, so my first love was was drums.

620
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 8: Got my first set of drums and I was ten,

621
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 8: and then I played I played the drums on up

622
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 8: through my teens in.

623
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: Any sort of band in high school, like rock band

624
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: or no.

625
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 18: No.

626
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 17: My poor parents, man.

627
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 8: We lived in about an eight hundred square foot two

628
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 8: bedroom house and I practiced five hours a day and

629
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 8: I don't know how they kept their sanity. But uh,

630
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 8: later on, I think around I was around nineteen or twenty,

631
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 8: I had a band called the Lost Greenos out of Conway, Arkansas,

632
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 8: hit me up and I went and drummed for them

633
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 8: in local bars. Then I played for a band out

634
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 8: of my hometown called Cabin Fever. I sang a few

635
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 8: while I played, though, Yeah, all drums.

636
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: So did you graduate high school?

637
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: Uh?

638
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So did you go to college at all?

639
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: So most people on my time, I go to college

640
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: either because nobody just want to college. Worked at the mill. Yeah,

641
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: you know where I'm from. So you finished high school?

642
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: And do you go start working in the oil fields

643
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: then and then playing music on the side.

644
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 8: Yeah? So I got a job in the oil fields, right.

645
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 8: Actually I worked at a pizza hut and out of

646
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 8: high school. Yeah, right out of high school, or I

647
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 8: was in high school at the time. As soon as

648
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 8: I've turned eighteen, I had a regular that came in

649
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 8: about once a week at pizza hut, and I guess

650
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 8: he took a liking to me and my work ethic,

651
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 8: and I you know, I just took good care of him,

652
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 8: him and his wife and everything, and So the day

653
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 8: I turned eighteen, he had me a job lined up

654
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 8: at a well head repair business out of Alma, Arkansas.

655
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 8: And I've done that for about I've done that for

656
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 8: about a year and ended up going in and doing

657
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 8: some other stuff triming trees and stuff for Arkstall Electric.

658
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 8: But yeah, I was doing I was doing music on

659
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 8: the side, but that only lasted a couple of years.

660
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 8: After the drum career was over, me and a buddy

661
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 8: we started a little duo.

662
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: Also making drums for a local band. You're not making

663
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: much money, no, I mean honestly, playing drums for a

664
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: band for an artist with one or two hits, you're

665
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: not making that much money, right you know, you're still

666
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: trying to get your place, hopefully the art like for you.

667
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: For example, if you're hiring a drummer, you know you're

668
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna pay him, you know, a couple hundred bucks a

669
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: show or whatever it is, if it's a good show

670
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: for you. But he's not in it for a couple

671
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. He's in it because if you blow up,

672
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: he's going to the drummer. That's it. The same way,

673
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: you're not making a much of money right now, but

674
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: you're doing this because if you do blow up, then

675
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: you're set.

676
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 17: It's a time investment. Yeah, that's what it is.

677
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Anyone to create a world have had to do it.

678
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 17: I've had to do it.

679
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: So Okay, so you're not making a bunch of money,

680
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: but you're working Monday through Friday. But are you playing

681
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: shows Friday and Saturday nights? Yeah, but it's.

682
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 8: Man, it's not We're playing like the local VFW and

683
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 8: it's just all our buddies. And you know, after the

684
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 8: drum thing was done, you know, we started a little

685
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 8: duo and that we only played maybe six or seven

686
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 8: shows man, before I said, you know what this, I'm

687
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 8: getting up too early during the week and then we're

688
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 8: staying out all night partying.

689
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: And it's crazy that they didn't let you sing. If

690
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: you just sing one song, you're like I'd sing occasionally

691
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: on the drums. How do you sing one song and

692
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: they not look at you and go, oh, you're the

693
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: one that should sing. Well, it like you were better

694
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: than the lead singer, to be honest, singing just singing, Yeah, yeah,

695
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I would think so.

696
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

697
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 8: Well, but then again, you know you sign up as

698
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 8: a drummer, man, I don't want to step on anybody's toes.

699
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: If I was.

700
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: A singer of that band and you started singing and

701
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I knew you were better than I'd be like, no

702
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: more songs for that guy. You wouldn't have say another note.

703
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: You would have sing one and beat me and been like,

704
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: why we have the drummer singing? You need to focus

705
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: on your So okay, you're waking up too early in

706
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: the morning. You decide you don't want to wake up

707
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: and stay up all night and play it and then

708
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: do it again.

709
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 17: Yeah, and then I drew dropped it completely. I just

710
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 17: I just walked away from it so hard. No, what

711
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 17: was it do called? Uh, it wouldn't. It was just

712
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 17: it was just me and them, but my buddy Daniel,

713
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 17: And what would you do?

714
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 8: I would sing and play the bongos mm hmm. I

715
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 8: had a little set of bongos in the tambourine that

716
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 8: I would like tap around on.

717
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 17: Oh it was so bad, dude, it was so bad.

718
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't do it.

719
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 17: He'd played the guitar.

720
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 8: He'd play the guitar and sing, and then and then

721
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 8: when I sing, he'd sing harmony for me.

722
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: And you quit music. But how long did you stop

723
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: doing shows.

724
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 8: Oh it had to be dude, had to be eleven

725
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 8: years twelve years.

726
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Insane, right, Dang, isn't that that's insane?

727
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: It's nuts.

728
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: So but is there this thirst inside of you to somehow,

729
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: at some point get back out three minutes for fun

730
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: or had you just been like you know that was

731
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: an old me.

732
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, there really was, man, They're always was that there.

733
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 8: But you just, man, you put making a living in

734
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 8: front of everything. You know, you can't be dragging in

735
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 8: Monday morning, you know when not when guys lives depend

736
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 8: on you, you know, and you being there in body and mind.

737
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you what really regnited this. And I

738
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 8: haven't had the opportunity to tell this story very much,

739
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 8: so I don't. But uh, there's a girl named Charlotte

740
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 8: Lee here in town. She's from Markansas and back back

741
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 8: when they cut my hours in the ol field, I

742
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 8: was looking for sidework and you know, on top of

743
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 8: playing music on the side a little bit kind of

744
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 8: had that idea in the back of my mind, but

745
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 8: it just wasn't It didn't come to fruishing yet. But

746
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 8: I had a friend that knew I was looking for sidework.

747
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 8: If she called me up one day she was like, hey,

748
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 8: I got this girl. She needs her band, needs a

749
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 8: ride and needs a driver in a van to go

750
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 8: to Billy Bob's in Texas to open up for the

751
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 8: Eli Young band.

752
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 17: And she's like, pays pretty good, So you want to

753
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 17: do it?

754
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 8: And I said absolutely, So one weekend I spent driving

755
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 8: Charlotte down to Billy Bob's and just being around that

756
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 8: environment again, and spending the night at Billy Bob's and

757
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 8: watching Eli Jung and helping them load in and load out.

758
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 8: I caught the bug, man, I caught the bug. And

759
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 8: it was the next week that that I bought my

760
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 8: PA system and started play that right.

761
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you going to help somebody else, Yes, get

762
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: down there. Yes, it is what helps you get here.

763
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 17: Absolutely yeah. I was ate up By the time I

764
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 17: got back. I was like, oh my god, I want

765
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 17: to do this again.

766
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: So when you get home you think I just watched it.

767
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: It reminds me of how much I loved it. What's

768
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: your what's the first step?

769
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: Then?

770
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: Do you start going, let me write some songs. You

771
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: get an old.

772
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 8: Guitar out, Yeah, you find something you can sell so

773
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 8: you can afford to buy to buy the stuff that it.

774
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 17: You know that it takes to do that.

775
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 8: And yet, man, I'll tell you My first gig out

776
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 8: Bobby was well.

777
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Did you still have a guitar though? Yeah?

778
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 17: Yeah, I had an old guitar.

779
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

780
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: And how was it?

781
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 17: It's awful? I still got it.

782
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

783
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: But it was a good enough to go and play

784
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: the bar.

785
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

786
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: And is that what you did is good enough?

787
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 17: Yeah?

788
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: So what was what was the first first per I

789
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: won't even say show. What was your first performance back

790
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: after sitting out for ten years?

791
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 17: So, uh, we discussed the other day.

792
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 8: I mean you discussed my buddy's restaurant, My buddy Ryan's

793
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 8: restaurant in Leslie, Arkansas, and uh he offered to let

794
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 8: me come play up there. And it was a little

795
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 8: sooner than I expected. So I had to cram learning

796
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 8: a two hour set list. You know, hadn't done this

797
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 8: in twelve thirteen years. And uh, I get up there

798
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 8: and I do pretty good my first set. Now the

799
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 8: town comes out, I mean, of course everybody knows. I

800
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 8: can say wow, So people came to watch. Yeah, So

801
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 8: people came out and the place was packed.

802
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: And coming out of retirement, let's go Sander.

803
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 17: Packing out Ryan's Main Street Grille.

804
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: Baby.

805
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 8: Anyways, I get up there and in my first set

806
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 8: goes it goes pretty good for you know, first polished

807
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 8: up as I am, which is not very uh. But

808
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 8: the second set, now, Ryan's got a mom and her

809
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 8: name's Vicky, and she's just she's this biggest sweetheart you

810
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 8: ever meet in your life. But she's got a little

811
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 8: lunder sit there, now, what does that mean? I mean,

812
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 8: she's just got a little she got a little metenes center,

813
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 8: you know. But she's just sweet as can be. And

814
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 8: she when I come off for a break after my

815
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 8: first set, she walked up and she handed me a

816
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 8: Scotch glass full of Patron with fault and line and

817
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 8: she said, there you and I turned it up, Bobby,

818
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 8: and that was that was the biggest mistake I made

819
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 8: the music industry to taint because I got back up

820
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 8: there and by the time I got about my fourth song,

821
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 8: that patron hit me, and I think about a third

822
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 8: of the people left.

823
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 4: They got up waved.

824
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if you're being you know, it's

825
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: just exaggerating a little bit. You do you think that

826
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: you were slurring your guitar playing?

827
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: Wasn't it the game?

828
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 12: Yeah?

829
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 8: I think I started probably missing chords and slurring a

830
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 8: little bit and uh yeah, and the hometown was pretty

831
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 8: disappointed in me. I'll come down off the stage and

832
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 8: I and I told Ryan, I was like, dude, that

833
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 8: I think this is I don't think this is for me, man,

834
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 8: I don't think this is from a period.

835
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, grand opening, grand clothes.

836
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: I was drunk.

837
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was drunk, but I was humiliated something something fierce.

838
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: What do you tell you?

839
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 17: He's like, no, dude, no, you're meant to do So

840
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 17: what's next?

841
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: What did you do after that? You get there again?

842
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 17: Yeah?

843
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 17: I ended up playing rhymes a few more times and

845
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 17: the local VFW. There's always the VFW.

846
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: Man, what will they give you fifty bucks or anything?

847
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

848
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know tips and fifty bucks or they charge

849
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 8: a little cover and you know a couple of three

850
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 8: bucks and you make make gas money. Man, That's truly

851
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 8: what it was for me, dude. It was all about

852
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 8: by being able to buy my launch at work, you.

853
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Know, gas money, and also some sort of fulfillment, right

854
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: like you had the bug, you needed the bug to

855
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: be fair?

856
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: Sure?

857
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah.

858
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: So at what point did you make that video? Did

859
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: you start to play bars and make us start making

860
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: a little more money. You started to get better. Was

861
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: there like a scene near where you were in Arkansas

862
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: where you could play a bar they'd give you a

863
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: hundred hundred fifty bucks or so. That's really it.

864
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, the crowds.

865
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 8: Once I stuck with it, the crowd started kind of

866
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 8: turning out, and and local businesses. You know, words spreads

867
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 8: pretty fast in those little towns, and you know, on

868
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 8: Facebook and stuff. And I think I had about five

869
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 8: hundred followers on my Facebook. So word was getting out.

870
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 8: And I started playing some restaurants and bars and and

871
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 8: Conway and Clinton and stuff, and yeah, it was, uh, it.

872
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 17: Was pretty wild man, to look back on.

873
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: When I heard you playing that that what bar was

874
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: that you were playing in? When I heard that clip

875
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: the stable to.

876
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 17: One, Oh, I was in my bedroom at my house.

877
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 5: Oh that was it.

878
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: I guess that's right.

879
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 17: That's right, yep.

880
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking of another video of you playing in

881
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: a bar somewhere that someone had sent me. But that's right,

882
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: it wasn't your bedroom. What kind of places were you

883
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: playing at that point, say the same stuff?

884
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, just little restaurants and little bars, man, I mean

885
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 8: mostly it was like like if I played a bar

886
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 8: in Marshall, likes a place like Ryan's. You know, people

887
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 8: came to listen. If I played a bar in Conway,

888
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 8: a third of the people came to listen and the

889
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 8: other two thirds were just there to eat their meal.

890
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 16: And yeah, I was background noise. So did you think

891
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 16: that you had a career at all? Or you the

892
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 16: day you recorded that in your room? Did you have

893
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 16: a just a sliver that you could do this for

894
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 16: a living?

895
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 8: No, that's that's still being honest. Yeah, one hundred percent honest. No, sir,

896
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 8: not ever, not ever, one time that did it ever

897
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 8: cross my mind? Hey man, you might have a chance

898
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 8: in Nashville.

899
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 17: You might have a chance. We might to live and

900
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 17: doing this.

901
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: Have you ever been up here to Nashville.

902
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 17: I've never seen the town.

903
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: So one night I'm on Facebook and a friend said, Hey,

904
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: you see this guy hit Sanders. He's from you know,

905
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: around where we're from, obviously, And I was like, uh no,

906
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: let me watch it and I get videos. Good God,

907
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm if somebody seen this period, I'm tagged

908
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: in it.

909
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 8: Well, dude, any video, any video I comment on TikTok

910
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 8: or Instagram, Hey, dude, can you tag Bobby and let it.

911
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: So? TikTok's but Facebook, you know, people leave music on

912
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: my car if they know, you know. But it's I mean,

913
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: that's the tree that I grew. Sure, so I ain't

914
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: hating a tree, but sometimes treo dropping out on your

915
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: head like that hurts you. Yeah, but it's it's a

916
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: great tree. But I was like, all right, let me

917
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: let me just because somebody from where I'm from is

918
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna get a little more of a look than somebody not,

919
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: at least a first look. And I was like, let

920
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: me see this guy any good? And I heard you

921
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, guy's pretty good. Then I

922
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: remember I messaged you on Facebook and just said hey, heat,

923
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: it's Bybones, and you didn't message me back for a

924
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: little bit because I think maybe you thought it was

925
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: a spam account.

926
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

927
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 8: I was on the phone with my tour manager because

928
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 8: he's the one that called me and told me you

929
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 8: wrote me because you wrote me on my music page.

930
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 17: And he called me.

931
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: To the music page or is he was he he

932
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: was part of it.

933
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on it and he saw me message.

934
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 17: Yeah, he saw he saw you.

935
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 8: I actually saw the message pop up after he had called,

936
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 8: I got off and the banner was still up. But

937
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 8: I ended up calling him back and I was like, man,

938
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 8: I don't think that's I think that's a spam account.

939
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 17: I think that's so.

940
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: So then one of my producers, Morgan or Elena Morgan,

941
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: so Morgan now works with me and my management team.

942
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: But she messaged I was like, no, that's really him. Yeah,

943
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: And so you and I talked and I don't remember

944
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: if I said hey, was it like hey, get to

945
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Nashville tomorrow or this week or.

946
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 17: I don't remember. Man, that's such a blur. But what's crazy.

947
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 17: What's crazy is that.

948
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 8: When Morgan answered the phone, or when I answered the phone,

949
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 8: it was Morgan, like, dude, I felt like I knew her.

950
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 8: I've been listening, dude, I've been listening to you guys

951
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 8: for five years. I'm talking religiously every morning from six

952
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 8: to ten.

953
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: Dude.

954
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: That was it.

955
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 17: I mean, I worked by myself.

956
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: I could have been a person pranking you as me too, right, Yeah, yeah,

957
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: now I get it.

958
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: I get it.

959
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 12: Yeah.

960
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: And I remember telling Morgan, hey, let's get him in Nashville,

961
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: and you drove overnight.

962
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: If I'm remember, I don't think so.

963
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: Here's the deal.

964
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 17: Here's why I don't think so, and I don't remember

965
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 17: it very well.

966
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: But the better story if you say that, but well,

967
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: I know.

968
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 17: It kind of is. I know it.

969
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 8: It kind of is, and I don't want to kill it.

970
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 8: But so here's the deal. Here's the truth.

971
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 17: Man. When my phone went off and it was you,

972
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 17: I was sitting down.

973
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 8: I was sitting there in my living room with my

974
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 8: pen in my hand and my guitar in my lap,

975
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 8: right in Bloodline.

976
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 17: Writing Bloodline.

977
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 8: I had a first version and a half of course

978
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: written when the funk. That's the first song I ever wrote, dude, Like,

979
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 8: oh ever.

980
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I really considering yourself a real song.

981
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 8: I tried to write a couple songs in my early twenties,

982
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 8: back when I was doing the show thing, and they

983
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 8: were so bad, dude, they were so bad that I

984
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 8: didn't ever try again.

985
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 17: I just thought it wasn't for me, and I woke up.

986
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 17: I think it was Sunday.

987
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 8: I think it was a Sunday, you reach yet, because

988
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 8: I woke up that day like, man, I ain't got

989
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 8: nothing to do. Let's start, let's try to write a song.

990
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 8: Because the video just went viral and it kind of

991
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 8: inspired me a little bit. And so that was crazy.

992
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 8: The first time I'd ever picked up a pen in thirteen,

993
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 8: fourteen years. Phone goes off and it's the DJ that

994
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 8: I listened to every morning, the Morning Show.

995
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 17: I listened to there every morning for five years. You know.

996
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 17: It's like, I don't know what kind of timing anyways.

997
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: No, listen, that's crazy, dude, that's crazy. It could be

998
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: some sort of divine something. I just don't like to

999
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: throw myself in the mix with Yep, me and God.

1000
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: We worked that out a little talk.

1001
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: I knew it.

1002
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 8: I'll be making phone calls, man, but but no. I

1003
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 8: ended up calling my buddy Jamie Jones as soon as

1004
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 8: I got the phone with you the next day because

1005
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 8: you invited me down to sing one of my songs. Well, dude,

1006
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 8: they didn't have a song. I had half a song,

1007
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 8: so I freaked out. Dude, I agreed, but I was

1008
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 8: freaking out. And see, dude, I didn't And I called

1009
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 8: my buddy Jamie Jones, which lives in Dardanelle, and I

1010
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 8: think we spent a day on it, because I think

1011
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 8: it was only like two days you gave me to

1012
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 8: get to Nashville. But that's why I say I don't

1013
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 8: think it was overnight, because me and Jamie finished the

1014
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 8: song like the next day, and then I was sitting

1015
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 8: in the motel room the night before the show learning

1016
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 8: how to play the dang thing and trying to remember

1017
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 8: the words.

1018
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: So you come in, you perform, and did it you

1019
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: leave with one of them or like go somewhere with

1020
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: one of them?

1021
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 17: Yeah? I first I went and walked around Sonny with

1022
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 17: with LT and so they liked you.

1023
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: They didn't have to do that.

1024
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1025
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 8: No, they introduced me all the staff then, and then

1026
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 8: Brian said to call him after we left there. So

1027
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 8: we went hung with Brian at Universal and went up

1028
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 8: to his office and sit and listened to a bunch

1029
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 8: of uncut Chris Stapleton stuff and a bunch of uncut

1030
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 8: Eric Church stuff.

1031
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 17: And it was awesome.

1032
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: That's that's gotta be cool, dude.

1033
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 17: It was crazy. I left there with a stack of vinyls.

1034
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 17: I could barely get out the door.

1035
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 8: Man, it was so killer that my first trip to

1036
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 8: Nashville and I get to go do that.

1037
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 17: Really, that was crazy.

1038
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: So how did because I've known George for a long time,

1039
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: how did you guys get into contact.

1040
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 8: So I met my management pretty early on, which is

1041
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 8: Pete Hartung and L three and he managed he manages

1042
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 8: Justin more right. Justin is on George's label, and Pete

1043
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 8: had told George about me early on. They didn't get

1044
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 8: too excited, man, really, but George did come out when

1045
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 8: we went out to cut five sides, which Bloodline was

1046
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 8: was one of them, and then Proud and Down in

1047
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 8: the South, which we ended up releasing independently. When we

1048
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 8: went out to cut those at the Castle, George ended

1049
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 8: up just popping up and I was like, well, here's

1050
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 8: that and He's like, oh, that's that's the head of Valerie,

1051
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 8: and that's that's that's you know, that's that's Justin's guy.

1052
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 17: And I was like, awesome, man.

1053
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 8: And uh so Georgia ended up painting out with us

1054
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 8: the whole day. And George has just kind of kept

1055
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 8: tabs on this thing the whole time, you know, this

1056
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 8: whole time, he's just always kind of been, you know,

1057
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 8: in the background. And then he got me a meeting

1058
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 8: with Borshetdow one day, and I had four songs total

1059
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 8: in my catalog. Man, I played Borshetta three songs and

1060
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 8: he was like, well you got any more? And I

1061
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 8: was like, well I got one more and he's like,

1062
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 8: well play us your full catalog, you know, but uh yeah,

1063
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 8: George has just always kind of been there.

1064
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1065
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: Did you get a publishing deal first?

1066
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, that's Sony. I think they changed it.

1067
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 8: They changed the name the other day to Sony Sony

1068
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 8: Music Publishing or something.

1069
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be pretty cool that the Pinion'd write songs. Heck,

1070
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: you didn't get to run a song until.

1071
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 17: Oh no, dude, that's what's crazy.

1072
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 8: And I told Pete, you know, man, I had, you know,

1073
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 8: being established and having a life there in Arkansas and

1074
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 8: having bills to pay and all that, and not being.

1075
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 17: Able to just jerk up and move, you know.

1076
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 8: I told Pete, you know, man, I'm not some spring chicken.

1077
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 8: You know, I need a paycheck before I make that leap.

1078
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 8: And sure, man, we get the We got the pub

1079
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 8: deal before I even had an address in Tennessee, which

1080
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 8: is which is something something to be said for Sony there.

1081
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: How crazy was it to quit your job, like a

1082
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: work to come and do music.

1083
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 8: It was terrifying, dude, Yeah, it was terrifying. Yeah, that

1084
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 8: took a lot of soul searching. Man, it really did,

1085
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 8: because that's you don't walk away from a job like

1086
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 8: that in Arkansas because once you once you leave it,

1087
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 8: you never get it back. You've got one hundred guys

1088
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 8: behind you that are that are just as dedicated and

1089
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 8: just to hard working that that are waiting to take

1090
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 8: your position. So I knew that there was there was

1091
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 8: no return if I if I jumped in, it was

1092
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 8: it was.

1093
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 17: Both feet first, but also how exciting it was amazing?

1094
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: Right?

1095
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1096
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: So but did you write songs? Drive back and forth

1097
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: for a while? Did you come to Nashville?

1098
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1099
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 17: In Arkansas, Yeah, a year and a half. A year

1100
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 17: and a half.

1101
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 8: I would get up this is my schedule. I'd get

1102
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 8: up on Sunday and I drive. It was about six

1103
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 8: and a half hours drive six and a half hours

1104
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 8: to Nashville, and I'd rape Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and typically

1105
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 8: Thursday morning, and then I would drive on Thursday night

1106
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 8: and then we'd play show for Outing, shows for Outing Saturday,

1107
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 8: and then I'd drive back to nash On on Sunday.

1108
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: Here's Landy Wilson on how she was a Handah Montana

1109
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: impersonator for years before she made it big. Were you

1110
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: just grinding on the road all those years? Is that

1111
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: how you were making your money to pay Brandon mortgage

1112
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: or bills?

1113
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 17: It was just all yep.

1114
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 11: And high school I taught guitar lessons and I impersonated

1115
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 11: Hannah Montana.

1116
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Well, let's both of these or something we got to

1117
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: dive into. So first of all, let's start with the easy.

1118
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: When you taught guitar lessons, are you a profession guitar player?

1119
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 11: I mean, like I know enough to get by. I

1120
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 11: mean they weren't paying me the big bucks. I know

1121
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 11: enough to like teach somebody the basics.

1122
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, and you were making money doing that?

1123
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean I was.

1124
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1125
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: You ever grab an electric and play any of your leads.

1126
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 14: On one string?

1127
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: Okay? The Hannah Montana things crazy community, Yes, so you were.

1128
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: And you do look a little bit like Hannah Montana

1129
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: invest of both worlds. Yeah she doesn't.

1130
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 12: Uh huh.

1131
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: So you were performing in high school as a hand

1132
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: On Montana impersonator.

1133
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 12: Yep.

1134
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: And I did you do the thing where you had

1135
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Laney open up for Handah Montana? Yes, Oh you did.

1136
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 14: I did.

1137
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: I gotta be a funny.

1138
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 11: I was like, we're not leaving here without them knowing

1139
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 11: my name too, Bobby, come.

1140
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: On, so you would open yes, and then you would

1141
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: put on Hannah Montana as costume. Okay.

1142
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 11: So I had a little portable sound system and a

1143
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 11: little piece of junk karaoke machine style thing, and I

1144
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 11: had the wig, I had the outfits. I would go

1145
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 11: to a lot of these birthday but it was like

1146
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 11: birthday parties, fairs, festivals. The last one I did was

1147
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 11: at Saint Jude, and a lot of the time they

1148
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 11: didn't want Laney Wilson there. They just wanted Hannah Montana

1149
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 11: to come to the party or whatever. So but I

1150
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 11: wouldn't be sure to ask them. I'd be like, can

1151
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 11: can Lane make an appearance too? So yeah, I would

1152
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 11: I get up there, sing a few songs, play my

1153
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 11: guitar and uh and I'd be like, and up.

1154
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Next and you would know the songs? Oh yeah, did

1155
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: you ever do the climb? I?

1156
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 14: Did you?

1157
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Did you sing that?

1158
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: You know?

1159
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 11: And it's a funny story. This is probably one of

1160
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 11: my most like defining moments of like you gotta do this,

1161
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 11: you gotta move to Nashville. I was at Saint Jude

1162
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 11: and this little girl had had brain surgery like two

1163
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 11: days prior to the Hannah Montana concert, and they had

1164
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 11: told me before. They were like, you know, you can't

1165
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 11: touch the kids unless they come up to you, and

1166
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 11: you know, then you can touch them, you know, if

1167
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 11: they make the first move first. And yeah, I get it,

1168
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 11: trust me, don't make the first move. But anyway, I

1169
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 11: was just about to sing the climb and her dad

1170
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 11: he wheeled her up to the front and she was

1171
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 11: singing every word to the climb and I mean, I'm

1172
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 11: Hannah Montana's crying. My wig is on sideways. I'm like

1173
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 11: everybody in the in the whole entire building is just squalling.

1174
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 11: And anyway, I around and then she's like, looks at

1175
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 11: me again, and I hand her the microphone and she

1176
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 11: sings the entire song Wow, like by herself, just kills it.

1177
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 11: Everybody's crying, and she hands me the microphone back and

1178
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 11: she meant to say, Hannah Montana, you're my star, but

1179
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 11: she said, Hannah Montana, I'm your star. And I was like,

1180
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 11: you know what you are, and I have got to

1181
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 11: do this the rest of my life.

1182
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: And how long did you do Hannah Montana impersonating five years?

1183
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: Wow?

1184
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: Is that was that your best paying gig.

1185
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I made way more money then than I do now.

1186
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 11: I'm going to tell you right now.

1187
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: I think there's often a misconception too with how much

1188
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: artists make until they're really making it, we ain't making

1189
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: It's almost like, uh, you know, lower class and then

1190
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: there's no middle class, very rare middle class. It's low

1191
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: and then boom and not just music but anything creative.

1192
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: Even in my industry, I was broke, broke, broke, broke,

1193
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: not broke anymore, and it went because it so when

1194
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: someone sees value in you, they start investing in you

1195
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: because they know that if they invest in you, you're

1196
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: going to make them way more money. And it's always

1197
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: with any amount of money that you make, it's how

1198
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: much money are you making the person paying you? And

1199
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: that's why artists who it may not seem like they're

1200
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: doing a lot of actual work, especially like where I

1201
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: come from, it was a sawmill town that does real

1202
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: work that was like hard labor work. But it's how

1203
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: much money can someone make off of you? Like, what

1204
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: is your skill that we can I use the word exploit,

1205
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: what's the skill that we can exploit and we can

1206
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: make money and then you make no, no, no, no

1207
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: money that someone goes, oh, you're actually really valuable and

1208
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: now we're going to pay you. It's crazy. It's like

1209
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: a whole crazy world that we.

1210
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 11: Live in is crazy.

1211
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: Here's Craig Campbell talking about going from a maintenance worker

1212
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: at an apartment complex to play piano for a major

1213
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: country artist before becoming an artist himself. So back to you.

1214
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: You're playing thirteen weeks in a row, and you gotta

1215
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: be like, this is it?

1216
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 7: This is awesome?

1217
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm playing music and I pay my bills, Like

1218
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: what greater thrill to do something that you love and

1219
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: to support yourself by doing so. Because most people were lucky, dude.

1220
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: Most people hate their jobs. Most people in life hate

1221
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: their games. I believe that my saidad hated job work

1222
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: and saw me I hated his job every day came home.

1223
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: It was always like I hate this job, but he

1224
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: did it so he could eat And he hated a job,

1225
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: but he did it for us. I never hated my

1226
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: job like I had jobs when I was younger and

1227
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: when I golf horse maintenance or you know, when I

1228
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: worked at the marina. But I loved my job even

1229
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: when I was out. Now, you loving your job and

1230
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: you're playing music every night, and so when do you go?

1231
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 17: Okay?

1232
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: I think I'm ready to try something a little bigger

1233
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: than this.

1234
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 7: We had a guitar player. He quit once and then

1235
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 7: he went to another regional band and then he he

1236
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 7: came back to us and we did that and then

1237
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 7: he he quit again. And when a band mean quits

1238
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 7: in this situation, wherever you're you're doing a regional stuff

1239
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 7: and you're playing six nights a week, it's very it's

1240
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 7: very rehearsed. Like the sets you play five sets a night,

1241
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 7: forty minute sets. Each set has its transitions and this

1242
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 7: and that. And I said, you know what, I don't

1243
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 7: want to have to learn. I don't want to have

1244
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 7: to teach you new guitar player of the set. I

1245
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 7: just don't want to do it. So I called my

1246
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 7: buddy and he said he was going through a hard time.

1247
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 7: He was already living in Nashville. I said, hey, uh,

1248
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 7: do you have any room? He says, man, I'm sorry,

1249
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 7: I can't nothing right now. He said, but if I

1250
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 7: can get you a job, will you will you move?

1251
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 7: And I said, like, shoot, chest job?

1252
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1253
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 7: Like he was working maintenance at an apartment complex. He says,

1254
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 7: I think I know somebody across the way that that

1255
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 7: is looking for maintenance slash grounds keeper. I said, do

1256
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 7: hook me.

1257
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: Up for an apartment complex.

1258
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1259
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 7: So I came to town on a Thursday. My interview

1260
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 7: was on Friday.

1261
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: How old were you?

1262
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 7: Twenty three?

1263
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: You come to town to Nashville with music in your head,

1264
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: but you know you have steps to before you can get.

1265
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 4: To the music.

1266
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna work for lack of every time,

1267
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: just maintenance, like I said, So you gotta work mains

1268
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: and a department complex. You go, you interview, I interview.

1269
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 7: She calls me back that that afternoon and says, we

1270
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 7: want to hire you. She said, I know you don't

1271
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 7: know much about maintenance. Because I was honest, I said,

1272
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 7: I've never done this, she said, but I can tell

1273
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 7: that you want this job, she said, So I want

1274
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 7: you to. I want you to have this job like

1275
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 7: eight twenty five an hour. But I did get, you know,

1276
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 7: thirty percent off my rent, which was a big deal. Yeah.

1277
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 7: So I did that probably fifteen months.

1278
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: Really, And so at that time, are you playing the

1279
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Broadway gig?

1280
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 7: No, I haven't started Broadway.

1281
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: So you were in Nashville for a year and you

1282
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: hadn't started playing music yet. Was it driving me crazy?

1283
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 7: It was just because I didn't know anybody.

1284
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: I was.

1285
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 7: I was very secluded. But I would go downtown to

1286
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 7: Lower Broadway and Printer's Alley and I would watch bands

1287
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 7: and just think, man, I want to do this, and

1288
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 7: there another level of making it, you know.

1289
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: So they're intimidating for you, because when people come to

1290
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: this town, they always think I'm good. And then you

1291
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: look intimid You look around and you go, holy crap.

1292
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: These are people playing bars and they're fantastic.

1293
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 7: Because this is the melting this is the concentration of amazingness.

1294
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 7: So this as as luck would have it. I was

1295
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 7: at a showcase one night at Douglas Corner and there

1296
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 7: was a guy he was he had the Saturday night

1297
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 7: ten to two spot at the stage, which was the.

1298
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: Big place to go down.

1299
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 7: And the ten to two spot on Saturday night was

1300
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 7: the spot you wanted. Was packed, pa I mean shoulder

1301
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 7: and shoulder. So I met him and he's like, what

1302
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 7: do you do. I said, I'm a piano player.

1303
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: He said really, So that's what you were at the time.

1304
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: You were the keys play.

1305
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 7: Well, it's just easier for me to say that than

1306
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 7: to say a singer, because I mean, were.

1307
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: Even a guitar player, because everybody does both.

1308
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 7: So he said, is what are you doing Saturday? I said, man,

1309
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 7: you have nothing to do? He said, come down Saturday

1310
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 7: night and set up.

1311
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: That's interesting because you were a singer and you did

1312
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: play guitar, but you knew that there was to.

1313
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 7: Get my foot in the door.

1314
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: That yeah, that your piece was to play the.

1315
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 7: Keys because there were no piano players downtown.

1316
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Wow, so okay, there are no piano players. You go

1317
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: and he says, come play. So what happened?

1318
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 7: So halfway through the night he his name is Josh Brister,

1319
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 7: he said, He said, the gig is yours if you

1320
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 7: want it every Saturday night.

1321
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: So you you played halfway. You played half a set

1322
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: and he comes to you and says, hey, yeah, you're in,

1323
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: And is it it thrilled for you to be playing Nashville.

1324
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 7: My goodness, man, to be able to play music and

1325
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 7: make one hundred dollars or however much you make on

1326
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 7: a Saturday night, tend to two spots singing harmony with

1327
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 7: with a with a rock and crowd.

1328
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: It's it was.

1329
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 7: It was the best thing ever.

1330
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: Were you still doing the main it's in the daytime, Yeah,

1331
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: he's probably maybe.

1332
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 7: I was, And I was on the on call every

1333
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 7: other weekend, so sometimes I would be on broad with

1334
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 7: my pager on sweating, thinking if I get a yeah,

1335
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 7: I would have to go make sure. And normally most

1336
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 7: times I could talk people out of it.

1337
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: You could give them instructions on how to save them, or.

1338
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 7: I could just say, hey, can it wait till tomorrow.

1339
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: The only thing I couldn't say wait is if it

1340
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 7: was like a one bedroom and there was a clog toilet.

1341
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 7: I had That was Did you ever have to leave

1342
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 7: a gig? Nope, No, you did never have to leave

1343
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 7: a gig. I did have to make a few phone calls,

1344
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 7: but never had to leave a gig.

1345
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: So you do that that gig that you playing keys

1346
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: on the stage for at the stage for how long?

1347
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 7: I did that for three or four years? Three or

1348
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 7: four years I played. I played piano. That was It

1349
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 7: was like a domino effect. I played for him and

1350
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 7: then the Friday, the Saturday night six to ten, guy

1351
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 7: said Hey, I need a piano player. So I would

1352
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 7: come in on Saturday set up at six o'clock and

1353
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 7: play both shifts and wouldn't even have to tear my

1354
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 7: stuff down. I just play both ships. And then that

1355
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 7: went that Friday night.

1356
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: And then.

1357
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 7: At one time I was playing six nights uh and

1358
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 7: two shifts on Saturdy Friday, Saturday. So I was making

1359
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 7: I was honestly making about a grand week cash.

1360
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're making good money. Were you able to

1361
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: quit your maintenance job at that point? You said, so

1362
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: you quit and you were just playing piano, keys, key whatever. Right,

1363
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: See that's what you're doing. You're the keys. Now do

1364
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: you feel like, okay, now I can really sing?

1365
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 7: No?

1366
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 8: No?

1367
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 7: Yeah. That that was my whole goal of the whole time,

1368
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 7: my or my plan. I became, you know, buddy buddy

1369
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 7: with the with the owner at the stage, and I

1370
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 7: kept every time i'd see him, I'd say, when you're

1371
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 7: gonna give me a shift? When you're gonna give me

1372
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 7: a shift, because during sound check I would sing to

1373
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 7: check make sure everything's working. And then they knew, they

1374
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 7: I mean, they recognized, and so one night overheard him saying, man,

1375
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 7: I don't have it. I don't have a ten to

1376
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 7: two for Sunday. And I'm like here, I'm here. He's

1377
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 7: like you sure, I said yes. So he gave me

1378
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 7: ten to two on a Sunday, which is very no,

1379
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 7: it's it's not the most, it's not the most. It's

1380
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 7: not the best right on a Sunday. But I showed

1381
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 7: up with a seven piece band. I was so excited.

1382
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 7: I had in symphony, even though I was a piano player.

1383
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 7: I hired a piano player, bass fiddle, steel drums, guitar.

1384
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 7: I had the whole thing. And it was just another

1385
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 7: one of those I've made it situations. But I never

1386
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 7: got my shift. I never got my own shift to

1387
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 7: a good bit after that. That was just a one off.

1388
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 7: But I just kept on and on, and finally he said,

1389
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 7: he said he had he needed somebody for Tuesday night

1390
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 7: six to ten at the stage. It's not a permanent thing,

1391
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 7: but I want you to you know, whenever they're out,

1392
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 7: I'm going to get you the call. First, I said,

1393
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 7: thank you. It eventually turned into those guys and they

1394
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 7: would kept canceling. So he gave the shift to me

1395
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 7: and I did that for another three or four years.

1396
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: A year. So, as you're working at stage, were there

1397
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: people that came through and you saw come through and

1398
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: then go up, meaning can you think back to anyone

1399
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: and you were like, Okay, this guy's really good and

1400
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: they ended up being something that came through.

1401
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 7: Dirk's was down there.

1402
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: He would Dirks become play the stage.

1403
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 7: He played the stage for a little bit.

1404
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Was he at that point special or did he become

1405
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: special later? Do you think I never really got to

1406
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: see him play.

1407
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: I do know.

1408
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 7: I just would hear stories about this Dirks Bentley guy.

1409
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 7: And he wasn't there long. He was in and out,

1410
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 7: like they gave him a shift. And then I think

1411
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 7: he signed his record deal.

1412
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: So you played keys and at one point you started

1413
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: playing keys for Luke. Now before we had looked did

1414
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: you play key? Did you go on the road and

1415
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: travel with anybody before Luke Bryan or was Luke still

1416
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: so young and knew that he was just a guy.

1417
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: It was before he had his record deal. Yeah, so okay,

1418
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: so you were playing with Luke before a record deal. Lubrian,

1419
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: So how did you guys even meet to set you

1420
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: guys up?

1421
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 7: We had a mutual songwriting friend and he his name

1422
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 7: was Gaalen Griffin and and uh he had told or

1423
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 7: he had overheard Luke saying they needed a piano player

1424
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 7: for some weekend stuff, and he threw my name in

1425
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 7: the hat. I met, you know, I met Michael Carter,

1426
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 7: who was Luke's guitar player is also now he's coach

1427
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 7: Windell's producer and songwriter. And we talked on the phone

1428
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 7: and he says, hey, let's do this, and they were like, hey,

1429
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 7: you guys will hit it off. They're from Georgia, y'all

1430
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 7: gonna love each other. So so they hired me without

1431
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 7: even ever hearing me play. Went down and it was,

1432
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 7: you know, a couple of college towns, but that was

1433
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 7: that was one of those When I got to do

1434
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 7: the shows with Luke, I knew immediately that he was

1435
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 7: he was he was on his way.

1436
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: So you could tell with Luke even early that he

1437
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: was special.

1438
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1439
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 7: No, why because I mean we first of all, his

1440
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 7: his stage presence is the same as it's always been.

1441
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 7: He is that guy. And we would do these shows

1442
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 7: in these college towns and I was blown away, like

1443
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 7: I'm I mean, I'm they give me a CD to

1444
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 7: learn these songs and I've never heard these songs before.

1445
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 7: But we'd go down and play Millageville and we'd go

1446
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 7: down and play Statesboro, Georgia, and we play Athens, Georgia,

1447
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 7: and it would be completely sold out. Everybody's singing every

1448
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 7: single word to every song he sing. I'm talking about

1449
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 7: all of his all of his original songs. I'm like,

1450
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 7: how's he doing this? How did he do this?

1451
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: But he was.

1452
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 7: It was a big deal back then.

1453
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: The thing about Luke too, and I like Luke, and

1454
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: I just to prefaces that he's a good dude. And

1455
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: you expect someone that big, maybe not to be that,

1456
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of lose it a bit. Looks

1457
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: a good dude. He's always I mean, he's a good dude,

1458
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: and so you just wouldn't expect Luke to and I've

1459
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: seen him do it before alone, sit down at a piano.

1460
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: He's great and just. And people will give Luke crazy

1461
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: times because he gets up of dances and he helped

1462
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: help dance and they'll do some maclamore. But set that

1463
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: guy down at a piano and have him play. Yeah,

1464
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: it's beautiful.

1465
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 7: Next time you have you have him on a piano,

1466
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 7: tell him to render you some gospel songs.

1467
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: And he's played gospel son, He'll get it. It's and

1468
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 1: it's everything that you want him to be, but don't

1469
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: expect him to be, And then he is and you're like, wow,

1470
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: So you play with Luke. Now were you with him

1471
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: when he got a deal or are you gone by

1472
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: that point?

1473
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: No?

1474
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 7: I had he we had already. He had already decided

1475
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 7: I didn't need to be a side man.

1476
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: So he decided. Did he fire you in a way

1477
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: and in a good way or a bat good way?

1478
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 7: No, it was great, he said. He says, man, I

1479
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 7: want to help you.

1480
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: Did you believe him?

1481
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I had no other reason. I had no

1482
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 7: reason not to.

1483
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: Because someone has to me, Hey, I'm gonna fire you,

1484
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: but in no other way, and be like I'll come on.

1485
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 7: Is that it was all I mean immediately, I mean

1486
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 7: one of them is like, hey, I want to help you.

1487
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 7: I want to introduce you to my publisher. Okay, so

1488
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 7: he really like led to you in a direction. Yeah,

1489
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 7: that's he of me to town. Me and Michael, his

1490
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 7: guitar player at the time. We started writing together, and

1491
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 7: those were some of my first co writes. He introduced

1492
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 7: me to a guy named John Maybe who was married

1493
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,479
Speaker 7: to Connie Harrington. She wrote a bunch of big songs.

1494
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 7: Terry clark YadA, and then I drive your truck. And

1495
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 7: before I met Connic. Before I met Connie, he introduced

1496
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 7: me to John and John said, well, it's funny, you know,

1497
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 7: meeting you today. He said, my wife Connie needs a

1498
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 7: demo singer for a song.

1499
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: This is.

1500
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 17: Years ago.

1501
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 7: And he said, are you available? I said yeah, So

1502
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 7: he hooked me up with Connie. Con It my very

1503
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 7: first paid demo.

1504
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: What was your What was the song? Remember Somebody's Somebody,

1505
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: Somebody somebody? What was that song? It never got okay?

1506
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, and I don't want to be dominant

1507
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: to be I just don't want to be honest, I

1508
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: just don't know it.

1509
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 7: Honestly, there's no songs I've ever done gotten cut except

1510
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 7: for one that you demoed that I sing. It was

1511
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 7: a song called Braid My Hair that Randy o and

1512
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 7: did for Saint Jude Radio from Alabama.

1513
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I even know the song. He sings it whenever

1514
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: I go to Saint Jude.

1515
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 7: And he said, yeah, I demoed that song.

1516
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so you're a demo singer. So here you are?

1517
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: You moving up the ladder. When do you start to

1518
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: get sniff from labels?

1519
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 7: Oh, that wasn't. That wasn't until after the whole Tracy

1520
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 7: Bird thing. Okay, so you played Keiths for Tracy Bird? Yeah,

1521
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 7: so how did that end up happening? His tour manager's

1522
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 7: house sitter was good friends with my wife, and once

1523
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 7: again it was one of those she overheard Tracy needing

1524
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 7: a piano player and they hired me, gave me a CDs,

1525
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 7: some CDs to learn, and never never auditioned or anything.

1526
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 7: Just got on the bus one night, went to did

1527
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 7: three shows and on the way home, they says, you

1528
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 7: want the gig.

1529
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: It's yours. What was the highlight of your first Tracy

1530
01:04:59,360 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: Bird show?

1531
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 4: Oh?

1532
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 7: The highlight was when I messed up big time, like

1533
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 7: they did this Ricky Skag song and there's a it stops,

1534
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 7: but I let it sustain over the entire It was

1535
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 7: just you held it. Yeah, I held out and everybody

1536
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 7: else stopped and then they all looked at me. That

1537
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 7: was That's my one memory from the very first Tracy

1538
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 7: Bird show.

1539
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: So from Tracy Bird, when do you go? Okay, I

1540
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: want to grab a guitar and I want to be

1541
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: an art. I want to be a artist.

1542
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 7: I'm doing this all on Lower Broadway. At the same time.

1543
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: And this is when you're grinded because you can play

1544
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: the thing with Craig two. By the way, is that

1545
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: we did but in the show thing for years is

1546
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: that I would just throw a song out. I mean,

1547
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: Craig knows every song because you kind of had to

1548
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: when you would play for hours at a time, right right, So,

1549
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: and if you didn't have to figure it out really quick, Yeah,

1550
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: you do.

1551
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 7: Four songs, four hours of music, and then you know,

1552
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 7: the occasional twenty dollars tip comes in for a song

1553
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 7: you never heard, you go home and learn it just

1554
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 7: in case it gets caught again, you know, or requested.

1555
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 7: But I'm playing Lower Broadway all the while doing the

1556
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 7: Tracy Bird thing too. So there was a bartender at

1557
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 7: the stage where I played. She was dating a guy

1558
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 7: that was in the radio promo business, and she invited

1559
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 7: him down. She said, you need to come see this guy,

1560
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 7: and he came down, and he would come down every

1561
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 7: Tuesday night from I mean probably two years, always tell me, Hey,

1562
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 7: we're gonna do something. You great, YadA, YadA, all that,

1563
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 7: And I had gotten to the point where I'm like, Okay,

1564
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 7: put your money where your mouth is.

1565
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1566
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 7: So one night he was. He came to He's like, look,

1567
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 7: we're ready to do this. We want you to be

1568
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 7: our guy. I'm gonna bring Keith stig All down to

1569
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 7: see you. He's a producer. He produced all the Alan

1570
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 7: Jackson stuff, all the Zach Brown stuff, and honestly, he

1571
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 7: was number one on my list if I could handpick

1572
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 7: producers when I first moved to town. He was my guy,

1573
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 7: and so I couldn't believe it. I said, well, give

1574
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 7: me at least give me twenty four hours notice so

1575
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 7: I can prepare. So sure enough, he says, hey, we'll

1576
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 7: be done this date. We're going to be there from

1577
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 7: seven to eight. I said, all right, I'll be ready.

1578
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 7: So I hit him with forty five minutes of everything

1579
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 7: I had, and Keith said, come buy of the office tomorrow.

1580
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: What's everything you have? Is that your originals? He throw

1581
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: a couple of covers.

1582
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I didn't do any coaches.

1583
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: Did originals?

1584
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 7: Originals?

1585
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: Could you tell by his face? Because you know you auditions.

1586
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: I have an audition for acting jobs and hosting jobs.

1587
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: And he watched the faces. Are you watching his mannerisms?

1588
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: And how are you feeling? As it was happening?

1589
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 7: He was, and now that I've known him for a

1590
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 7: little while, he was as excited as he would have

1591
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 7: ever gotten, which at the moment was kind of not

1592
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 7: the best facial expressions you would expect, you know, for

1593
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 7: somebody that was excited about seeing some music that they

1594
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 7: were wanting to do something with. So I didn't know

1595
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 7: how to take it. But when he invited me to

1596
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 7: the office the next day, that that was a good sign.

1597
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 7: And that was in August of.

1598
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 4: Eight.

1599
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: She signed a record deal.

1600
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 7: Signed a deal in September eleventh, two thousand and nine.

1601
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 7: So it took a year to negotiate and then started

1602
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 7: the record, making the record, and then started my radio

1603
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 7: tour July twenty ten, and then family Man came out.

1604
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: Here is Tricia Yearwood talking about her nine to five

1605
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: desk job at a label in Nashville, and no one

1606
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: even knew she sang. She talked about how she landed

1607
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: the job as a demo singer.

1608
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 19: I had a nine to five job when I first

1609
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 19: moved to town. I was a receptionist at a record

1610
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 19: label and I had to be at work at nine

1611
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 19: and I worked at a label where there was a

1612
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 19: guy at the desk. So if I got there at

1613
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 19: nine oh one. He'd had to sit there an extra hour,

1614
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 19: so he was really ticked to me if I was

1615
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 19: ever late. So I was always on time because I

1616
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 19: didn't want to be mad at me and leave your

1617
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 19: desk to even use the restroom without somebody sitting in

1618
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 19: your chair, because you're dance on the phone, you're at

1619
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 19: the cover, you're the gateway, you know, the whole place.

1620
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 19: And it was really depressing for me. Not because first

1621
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 19: of all, I'm watching people come in every day and

1622
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 19: do what I want to be doing, so that was hard,

1623
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 19: but secondly, just that structure of this is when you

1624
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 19: clock in, this is when you clock out. I think

1625
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 19: some people are made for it, and I think some

1626
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 19: people aren't. And I don't think I am. I like

1627
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 19: people say, oh, it must be so crazy. You just

1628
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 19: normally ever know what your schedule is going to be.

1629
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 19: I'm like, it's kind of different every day, but I

1630
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 19: kind of love that for me.

1631
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: So it's consistently different, like there's a consistency to it

1632
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 1: always being.

1633
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 19: Different exactly exactly, and I like that. I think I

1634
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 19: thrive on that. I don't think I would do well.

1635
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 19: I know I don't do well, did not do well

1636
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 19: on the nine to five.

1637
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: Did you feel when you were working at the front

1638
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: desk and people would come into work and have profession

1639
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: that you wanted to do, that you were as good

1640
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: as they were already, And because I know it's frustrating

1641
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: when people are doing what you want to do, but

1642
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: did you feel like, oh, I'm I'm their talent. Wise,

1643
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: it's just I gotta put in my time.

1644
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 19: My thing was I believed in my voice. I believed

1645
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 19: that I had a voice and that I could sing.

1646
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 19: But I'm basically an introvert. I mean, I'm not like

1647
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 19: I grew up watching Barbara Mandrel on television and she

1648
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 19: played every instrument and she danced and she did all

1649
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 19: this stuff. And I'm not that kind of an entertainer.

1650
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 19: And so I really thought, you know, I can sing.

1651
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 19: I'm a little bit overweight. I don't play an instrument.

1652
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 5: Really.

1653
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 19: I can play a little bit of guitar, but I don't.

1654
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 19: So I didn't think I had enough. I thought, I've

1655
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 19: got this one skill that I believe in, but I

1656
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 19: don't have all these other ones. So I think for me,

1657
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 19: it was that I did have a strong belief in

1658
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 19: myself and I don't I think if I didn't, I

1659
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 19: wouldn't be sitting here. But at the same time, I

1660
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 19: had all these doubts about the things that I thought

1661
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 19: I needed to be able to do before I could

1662
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 19: be successful at it.

1663
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: So you felt you had to develop Even then you

1664
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: felt like you need to develop a bit more. Yeah,

1665
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: you weren't so strong.

1666
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 19: No, no, I mean And I went to Belmont where

1667
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 19: where there were so many music majors, and you couldn't

1668
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 19: you throw a stick without somebody telling me what a

1669
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 19: great singer they were, you know, And I was not

1670
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 19: that girl. And even actually at at MTM Records after

1671
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 19: I got my record deal, there were people at that

1672
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 19: building who said, we didn't even know, we didn't know

1673
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 19: you sang.

1674
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: Really yeah, so you weren't. You aren't one of the

1675
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: ones that were like, hey, I sing I sing I

1676
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: was not.

1677
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 7: I was not.

1678
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: How did you change that?

1679
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: Then?

1680
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: How did you start telling people I sing I sing?

1681
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 19: I think it was because I was shy and I

1682
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 19: wasn't bold about telling people I was a singer. But

1683
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 19: after working at that label for about six months and

1684
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 19: answering the phones and ordering liquid paper and not and

1685
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 19: watching people do what I wanted to do. I realized,

1686
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 19: if I don't tell somebody this is what I do,

1687
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 19: if I don't really get off my butt and try

1688
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 19: to make this happen, then I'm going to get to

1689
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 19: do this for the rest of my life. And I reconnected.

1690
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 19: I had I had a couple of songwriters, one was

1691
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 19: Kemp Blazy that I had done demos for, and I

1692
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 19: just found those guys again and said, hey, I'm trying

1693
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 19: to find I'm trying to get some demo work. And

1694
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 19: demo work was my way out. Once I started to

1695
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 19: get enough work that I could actually quit my job.

1696
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: John Michael Montgomery talks about the many jobs that he

1697
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: had growing up in rural Kentucky, and John also tells

1698
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: a funny story about why he quit his job as

1699
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: a server, Like what kind of rural jobs did you have?

1700
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: Because I grew up in Arkansas and I had a

1701
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of them.

1702
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a lot of similarities with Kentucky and Arkansas.

1703
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 4: You know, I did everything from of course, I bagged groceries.

1704
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 4: I worked in my mom and dad even though they

1705
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 4: were musicians, they were butchers. They cut meat and stuff,

1706
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 4: so I would, you know, did some of that. I

1707
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: helped build the swimming pools like digging. Yeah, you talking

1708
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 4: about a tough job.

1709
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it.

1710
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: You know, you got to get down there in the

1711
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: bottom and you got to take a little paddle that

1712
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 4: forms the bottom smoothed out so you know, when you

1713
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 4: put the the vinyl on it, you know, it's nice

1714
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 4: and smooth and everything like that. And I remember we

1715
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 4: had and it's always in the middle of the summer,

1716
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 4: you know, people wanted to put nobody. Yeah, and it's like, uh,

1717
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 4: you know, the they got these stainless steel type walls

1718
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 4: that you put up. They're in sections, and so we're

1719
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: down in there and it's one hundred degrees outside and

1720
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 4: the sun shining and reflecting all that heat down on

1721
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 4: us while we're down in there. Now, you know, I

1722
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know, it's probably eighteen seventeen, eighteen

1723
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 4: years old. Lot, let me tell you something. I mean,

1724
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: we all pretty much stripped down to our underwear almost

1725
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 4: to do this job, you know, And a lot of

1726
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: times we did it in the middle of the night

1727
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 4: when it was cooler, of course, really yeah, because I

1728
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 4: mean it was just so hot and your knuckles would

1729
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 4: get all war out, you know from the paddles trying

1730
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 4: to and then I remember one time we uh, we

1731
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 4: didn't do a good enough job for the guy that

1732
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 4: owned the company. He pulled in there and shined as

1733
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 4: it was. It was so it was almost midnight. He

1734
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 4: comes in there, suns his life down in there, walks

1735
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 4: down in there, starts taking his foot and just tearing

1736
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: the crap out everything. He's like, this is not good enough.

1737
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 4: We ended up staying till about four am in the morning.

1738
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 4: You know, I was getting paid three dollars and thirty

1739
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 4: five cents an hour or something like that. Seems like,

1740
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, but I wasn't afraid if somebody

1741
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 4: wanted to pay me to, you know, give me a job.

1742
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 4: I never did a job like I waited tables at

1743
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 4: Chee Cheese, which I enjoyed, but I sucked at it.

1744
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I was, you know, I wouldn't afraid to

1745
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 4: tackle anything. And I put in one hundred and ten percent.

1746
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 4: I knew. I was like, I'm not going to do

1747
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: this for the rest of my life, but I you know,

1748
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put a give the best I got. But

1749
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: I remember turning twenty in a day in Kentucky. You

1750
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 4: can serve alcohol and be a server in restaurant at

1751
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 4: twenty in a day. But I loved the place because

1752
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 4: they had great chips, and of course the bartender I

1753
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: knew pretty well, he'd sneak me a jumbo margarita.

1754
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: You know, hard to sneak at jumbo, like sneaking a

1755
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: small margarita, but sneaking a jumbo didn't fel very sneaky.

1756
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, it's you got to know sometimes,

1757
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 4: you know, when it was slow, you know, I was

1758
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 4: a terrible server. So they My shift was from eleven

1759
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: am until like two or three, and in the middle

1760
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 4: of the week. It wasn't a whole lot of people

1761
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,919
Speaker 4: coming in on the weekends.

1762
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't put the A plus servers that yeah,

1763
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: eleven to two or three on a Wednesday, yeah.

1764
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 4: They And so the evenings obviously the servers were I

1765
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 4: mean they would make five six hundred dollars in tips,

1766
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 4: you know, and I was like, wow, you know, I'd

1767
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 4: make maybe thirty dollars. But I was singing, you know,

1768
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 4: making music, playing music at night. So it worked perfectly

1769
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 4: for me, you know, because I went on stage at

1770
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 4: nine o'clock. I finished up about one am, and and

1771
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 4: gave me just a little extra money to put a

1772
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 4: little gas in my car and you know, and buy

1773
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: some you know, I didn't have to buy any food

1774
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 4: because we got food for picture percent off there. So

1775
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 4: but I ended up, Uh, I had to end up

1776
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 4: quitting because, like I said, I was not very good

1777
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 4: at at this job. So I had this couple and uh,

1778
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 4: their seven year old daughter came in. They sat down

1779
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 4: and they all ordered dacries, and of course the little girl,

1780
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 4: they ordered a not a dakri.

1781
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: For her, like a like a virgin dakrie.

1782
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say, yeah, it's they call them nod.

1783
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, got it.

1784
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 4: And I forgot to write nadda down on.

1785
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding.

1786
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: And so I go to the bartender who sneaks me Margarita's,

1787
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 4: you know, and I told him, I said, hey, see

1788
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: that that I'm a dad and the little girl over

1789
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: there at that table there, I said, I ordered three doakeries,

1790
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 4: one of them supposed to be nodded. Did I write

1791
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 4: nod on that ticket? He looks like it goes No,

1792
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 4: that's a real diacri, he went. I went, oh, this

1793
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 4: is not good. I said, that little girl's drinking a

1794
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 4: real Dakri so here comes we called him Taco, he

1795
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 4: was the floor manager. Comes out there and we tell

1796
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,440
Speaker 4: him the situation.

1797
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 8: You know.

1798
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 4: He goes over there and talks to him. He comes

1799
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 4: back and he's like, they're all cool. It's like we

1800
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 4: you know, they were wondering why she was drinking it

1801
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 4: so fast, so funny.

1802
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1803
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 4: So I was like, I probably need to find another gig,

1804
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 4: you know, another job this is right here. Probably I

1805
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 4: don't need to be serving seven year olds. Yeah, I

1806
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 4: just I'm not. I can't. I got a one track mine. Basically,

1807
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't shuffle other jobs. I'm terrible at

1808
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 4: what do they call it?

1809
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: Like multitasking?

1810
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 4: Multitasking awful added.

1811
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: What would you be thinking? Would you be thinking about

1812
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: your music career all day? Is that what was really

1813
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: happening in your mind at the time when you're waiting

1814
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: tables or were you just like I don't like doing this.

1815
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 4: No, I mean I enjoyed doing it. I enjoyed meeting

1816
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 4: the people. I just you know, the way my brain operates,

1817
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 4: I just it wasn't you got to be able to multitask?

1818
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 4: Could be a good server?

1819
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: Listen, I was the best. Yeah, I was the best

1820
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: server in the land, so you you know.

1821
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 4: You got three or four tables going on, and you

1822
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 4: gotta you know, I just wouldn't able to do it.

1823
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 4: I just I couldn't. It was like, I can sit

1824
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 4: down with a guitar, or I can sit down with

1825
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 4: a video game, and I will master the guitar or

1826
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 4: the video game because I can spend hours at that

1827
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 4: one thing and never leave, you know. Or I can

1828
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 4: sit and watch a bobber for fishing for iris on

1829
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 4: a day and wait for that thing to go under,

1830
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 4: and you know, and I'm you know, I got the

1831
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 4: patience of job with that. But I can't. I can't

1832
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 4: do multitasking. I mean, basically, it's easy to distract me

1833
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 4: from one thing.

1834
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about how you play guitar

1835
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: when you were younger, what what's the age difference between

1836
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: you and your.

1837
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 4: Brother year and a half.

1838
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so close.

1839
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: Now.

1840
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: Did he have the same dreams to be a country star?

1841
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 4: I think we both actually, you know, wouldn't like we

1842
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 4: wanted to be famous right off the bat. We just

1843
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 4: loved to get on stage and perform, and then we

1844
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 4: got better at it, and then we started our own

1845
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 4: band a little three piece band with a guy, a

1846
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: bass player, guy good friend of our, Tim Williams, and

1847
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 4: and we did that around Frankfurt and different places on

1848
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 4: the weekends. And then then a job full time five

1849
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 4: nights we gig opened up in Lexington and that was

1850
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: our dream, was sort of like, are we good enough

1851
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 4: to do that?

1852
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: But what was it?

1853
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: Five nights a week was at a restaurant, was it?

1854
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 5: No?

1855
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 4: It was a club, a club called Austin City.

1856
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: Saloon, and you were like the house band.

1857
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a guy named Greg Austin played there. No relation,

1858
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 4: I mean the Austin City Saloon and Greg Austin. I

1859
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 4: don't think they named it after him, but we used

1860
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 4: to go in there and watch him play. And that's

1861
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 4: where I met Troy Gentry At believe it or not,

1862
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 4: We me and him first met there.

1863
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: So you met Troy before your brother didn't. And what

1864
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: was true was Troy did he live up there?

1865
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? He was from Lexington, Yeah, and he was doing

1866
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 4: like I was. He was just going around to different places,

1867
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 4: getting up on stage, trying to make a name for himself.

1868
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 4: And we kind of got to be pretty good buddies actually.

1869
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 4: And then when Austin Gregg left Austin City, had got

1870
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 4: sold and another guy bought it out. He was having

1871
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: a hard time drawing a crowd in there, and my

1872
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 4: brother Eddie told him said, we can draw a croute

1873
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 4: in there, so could you?

1874
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: Or was he just saying that to get the gig?

1875
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 4: Well I think Eddie was just saying that to get

1876
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: the gig, but he was. Eddie was Eddie can He's

1877
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 4: the best. Let me tell you them. Eddie is he

1878
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 4: can be as he's just full of it. I mean

1879
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 4: I love it because he can literally talk. I mean

1880
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 4: he'll talk you know, fish out of water, I mean

1881
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: fishing or whatever whatever the saying is. I mean, Adie

1882
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 4: always had really cool cars because he just had that knack.

1883
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 4: I had pieces of junk that had constantly work work

1884
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 4: on all the time, and I was like, man, he

1885
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 4: got a good, cool, cool car and then he traded

1886
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: off for another cool car. But Eddie was really good

1887
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 4: with that salesman. He could call people up and talk

1888
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: to them and talk them into stuff. And so the

1889
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 4: guy gave us an opportunity. Eddie says, hey, it's guys,

1890
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 4: we got to put a band together because at the

1891
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 4: time we were disbanded and I was like, okay, I said,

1892
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 4: we'll get Tim Williams. Eddie's gonna play drums for me.

1893
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 4: That's what Eddie did for me, played drums, and uh, Troy,

1894
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 4: I said. I asked Troy if he'd be part of

1895
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 4: the band and he said yeah. So it was me, Eddie,

1896
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 4: Tim Williams, and Troy Gentry and we called it John

1897
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 4: Michael Montgomery and Young Country. And then we had a

1898
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 4: keyboard player.

1899
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 1: It is John Michael Montgomery and Montgomery Gentry basically exactly.

1900
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 4: And so I mean the guy gave us, he said,

1901
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 4: I'll give you, guys two weeks if you show you

1902
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 4: start bringing the crowd in here. We started packing the place.

1903
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: I mean, why do you think that?

1904
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 4: Because I knew what kind of music that place. Texas

1905
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 4: two stepping was getting really popular at the time. Greg

1906
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 4: Austin played a lot of songs and I would watch

1907
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: these people do these two step Texas two step in

1908
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 4: the line dancing this is, you know, nineteen eighty six

1909
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 4: eighty seven, and I was like, what kind of dance

1910
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 4: is that? You know, there's like Texas two step and

1911
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: it was that it was beginning, begin beginning to sweep

1912
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 4: the country. And so I went in there, and of

1913
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: course I played a lot of George Straight stuff, and

1914
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 4: I mean I played, you know, we all sang everything

1915
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: from Bob Seger to George stra We covered it all

1916
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: and U I mean, and plus we were a bunch

1917
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 4: of young single guys that'd like to have a lot

1918
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: of fun. So it was UK, you know, college town.

1919
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 4: I mean, we packed the place. I mean, we started

1920
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 4: packing the place and then you know, so it became

1921
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 4: a good gig for us for a while. And then

1922
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 4: I till on Sundays, me and Troy was trying to

1923
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 4: make a little extra money, so we would actually get

1924
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 4: together and his dad onto a little restaurant and we

1925
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: talked his dad and letting me and Troy go in

1926
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 4: there on a week on a Sunday because they weren't

1927
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 4: doing any business. He was thinking about closing it up.

1928
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 4: It's called the Grapevine, and we asked him if he'd

1929
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 4: let us come in here on Sunday and me and

1930
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 4: Troy would just do a little duo.

1931
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: And he was the original Montgomery Tree.

1932
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 4: And I absolutely and every time i'd see Troy, I'd go,

1933
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 4: you know that we and you were the first compry

1934
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 4: entry and he just my real big.

1935
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: So what's that dynamic? Because did you move to Nashville first,

1936
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: And if you and your brother are already playing together,

1937
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: why did you not duo up?

1938
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 4: Like well, I mean, I here's where my head was.

1939
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: When I was about twenty four years old playing five

1940
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 4: nights a week. I was like, I saw a lot

1941
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 4: of other musicians around town. They're thirty five, forty years

1942
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: old still, you know, and playing four and five nights

1943
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 4: a week, and I just didn't want to be that.

1944
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 4: I was like, by the time I'm thirty, I want

1945
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 4: to know where I'm going to, what I'm going to choose.

1946
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 4: Am I going to continue trying to I don't want

1947
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 4: to continue playing clubs. I either need to go to

1948
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,839
Speaker 4: Nashville and try to make a living, send demos, writing songs,

1949
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 4: doing something. But I don't want to be a nightclub

1950
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 4: or the rest of my life. And either that or

1951
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 4: I just need to go get a real job, you know,

1952
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 4: and have some kids and family and just enjoy music

1953
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 4: on the weekend.

1954
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Like Bulls down one hundred degrees underneath the ground with

1955
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: the paddles, You're already good at it.

1956
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so literally, I I had made up my

1957
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 4: mind once I turned twenty five, I was going to

1958
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,799
Speaker 4: make a decision to move down here. Well, just so happened.

1959
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 4: Nashville started looking for talent outside of Nashville, and and

1960
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 4: there was a guy up in Lexington that was doing

1961
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 4: a showcase for Atlantic Records, and the manager that guy

1962
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 4: stopped by the bar to listen to this song that

1963
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 4: that his artist that he got on Atlantic loved. So

1964
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 4: I sang it for him, called a few cents short.

1965
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 4: I wrote it and I got done and I said, well,

1966
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 4: how you like it? He went, I like you. He's like,

1967
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 4: if you'll let me manage, I'll get you on the

1968
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: Lamp Records.

1969
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 12: I'd like that.

1970
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: Wow, he said that.

1971
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you believe them? No? I mean, I just

1972
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 4: I was like, this guy's just telling me what I

1973
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 4: want to hear, you know, I mean. And I said, well,

1974
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 4: I said, it's a deal if you if you get

1975
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 4: me on Atlantic record, Yeah, sure, I'll let you manage me.

1976
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 4: You know. Estel Sowertz was the name of either old

1977
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 4: coal mine or Eastern Kentucky guye silk shirt and a

1978
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 4: gold nugget, you know. And I was like, there's no

1979
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 4: way this guy's even going to come through for me. Dang,

1980
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: if he didn't, you know. And I remember riding down

1981
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 4: in his Cadillac for the first time we run out

1982
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 4: of fuel because he bleed it had that little extra

1983
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 4: fuel thing. He believed that, and right before we run

1984
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 4: out of fuel, he looks at me. He said, those

1985
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 4: dimples are going to be worth a million dollars each.

1986
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 4: And I was like, I said, Estell, come home. I said,

1987
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 4: that's just silly. You know, God dreamed big. I loved

1988
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: it about him. You know, he had a little stutter

1989
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,480
Speaker 4: and stuff, had real devoys. So we I said, I said,

1990
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 4: you can't ever trust that extra fuel thing on there, Estel.

1991
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 4: I had to walk half a mile up a hill

1992
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 4: to a little white home, knock on the door. Didn't

1993
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 4: have no cell phones back then. This was nineteen ninety one,

1994
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 4: and you know, a little old lady is like, we

1995
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 4: run out of fuel.

1996
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 17: WEREWN sixty five, you know, so, but did she have fuel?

1997
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 4: She called the fuel station that had whatever they called

1998
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 4: the Triple A. You know, they came down, brought us

1999
01:26:58,720 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 4: some fuel and everything like that.

2000
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Was that your first time going to Nashville.

2001
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 4: No, I went to Nashville a long time ago, back

2002
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 4: in around eighty I'm thinking it was eighty four eighty five.

2003
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 4: I remember coming into town. We had this I had

2004
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 4: this guitar players, me and Eddie and Tim and and

2005
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 4: he was a long haired rock and roller guitar player,

2006
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 4: you know. And we come rolling into Nashville, and that's

2007
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 4: when Alabama had a huge Alabama sign there on Division

2008
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 4: Street or Music Road, whatever it was. They had a

2009
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 4: huge store there and they through the name Alabama was

2010
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 4: on top of it, and it was just flickering, and

2011
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 4: I was like, wow, that is so cool. I've got

2012
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 4: to go into there. Of course, you know, dour straight

2013
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 4: linel Ritchie, Alabama. That's where I got all my chops

2014
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 4: from me. You know. It was just like love songs

2015
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. I mean, but no, I mean,

2016
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 4: I just was fortunate enough. So getting back to the story,

2017
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 4: that guy. They came up to see that guy sing

2018
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 4: and showcase and it is right down the road from

2019
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 4: me and this they weren't impressed, I guess, and yeah

2020
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 4: by him. And so this guy comes into the bar

2021
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 4: and it's on a weeknight, so it's like we could

2022
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 4: tell this guy from out of town. There ain't nobody

2023
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 4: in the bar, right he didn't. He didn't look like

2024
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 4: he'd ever been there, hadn't seen him before. So I

2025
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 4: get done with the set and I walk over to

2026
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 4: him and he's like, yeah, he said, I'm from Atlantic Records.

2027
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 4: He's like, I was over there listening to this guy

2028
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 4: and he didn't impress me. And he's so I asked

2029
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 4: the waitress, I said, is there any other place anybody's

2030
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 4: singing around there? And she said, well, the best singer

2031
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 4: in town is right down the road here, John Michael Montgomery.

2032
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

2033
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,640
Speaker 4: And he went really, and I said, so, whoever that

2034
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 4: waitress is, you still don't know who is? Thank you

2035
01:28:58,600 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 4: very much.

2036
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: We have her on the phone right now there.

2037
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 4: And but I was like, well, I appreciate it, and

2038
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: he said, you know what, I just after that said

2039
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 4: she she's right, she says, I got the rest of

2040
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 4: them coming over. It's a visual and uh you know,

2041
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 4: and that's uh.

2042
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: What does your brother think about that?

2043
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 8: That?

2044
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna go sign to Atlantic? Does he follow

2045
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: you down?

2046
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean he's been my or did he come

2047
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 4: with you? He come with me? I mean we went

2048
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 4: to Nashville together. We did everything together. You know. He

2049
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 4: had of course, he had a life. I mean he

2050
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 4: had kids and married and all that stuff. But anytime

2051
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: we did music anything like that, I mean we did

2052
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 4: it together. I mean, he played drums for me. But

2053
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 4: once I started coming to Nashville, I was playing at

2054
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 4: Austin City five nights a week. He had to kind

2055
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 4: of hold the roosts down there because I now was

2056
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 4: recording Life to Dance from Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then

2057
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 4: I would drive back and Thursday, Friday and Saturday I

2058
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 4: would sing at Austin City and so you know, he

2059
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 4: was him and Tim and Troy and all what Troy.

2060
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 4: I think Troy might actually had to did it on

2061
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 4: gig at that point. But you know, then I would

2062
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 4: come in, you know, because I still had to make

2063
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 4: a living. I mean, you know, yeah, I was making

2064
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty bucks a week, you know, and

2065
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 4: I wouldn't getting paid anything to record at that point,

2066
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 4: the bills. Yeah, And so anyway, I did that for

2067
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 4: you know, I mean a year. I did that for

2068
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 4: a year because they had a big change over at

2069
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 4: Atlantic Records, and Rick Blackburn ended up taking over the

2070
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 4: whole thing and the other guy left and this and that,

2071
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 4: and we changed producers. You know, Doug Johnson came into

2072
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 4: the picture, and I think basically was the reason that

2073
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 4: I have a career today. I mean he brought life

2074
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: to dance. I love the way he loved me beer

2075
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 4: and bones. I mean he he was very instrumental.

2076
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: Else and tells us about her first acting gig she

2077
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: got when she was just sixteen. Rita also talked about

2078
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: her first job as a ticket taker and how that

2079
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: made her want to be a singer even more. When

2080
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,560
Speaker 1: you graduate in high school, good student? You know you

2081
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: say you college for a couple years. What kind of

2082
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: student were you?

2083
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 14: Uh? Not very present because I was always.

2084
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,839
Speaker 1: Working, working, doing what acting?

2085
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 14: So by then at sixteen, you know I did the

2086
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 14: Brady Bunch.

2087
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.

2088
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 14: Oh yes, I got my screen actor's card.

2089
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 4: I did not know that.

2090
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 14: Yes, Bobby, would you like me to do the cheer

2091
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 14: for you?

2092
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Because cheerleader?

2093
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

2094
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 1: Okay, So what role.

2095
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 14: Pat Conway with?

2096
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 1: Who?

2097
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 14: With Greg and Marsha? Okay, so this was the episode.

2098
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 14: Greg had a girlfriend. She was running for cheerleader. Marsha

2099
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 14: was also running for a cheerleader, but the girlfriend was

2100
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 14: kind of using Greg because he was a judge of

2101
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 14: the cheerleading competition, and so when the time came, it

2102
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 14: was a tie vote and he was supposed to be

2103
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 14: the tiebreaker and it was going to get him into

2104
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 14: deep hot water with his girlfriend. So instead he chose

2105
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 14: me the cheerleader, who really was a cheerleader in real life.

2106
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 1: I've seen every episode of Pretty Much and I can

2107
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: vaguely remember that I did not know. Yeah, that was

2108
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: your first role.

2109
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's how I got my screen Actor's Guild card?

2110
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 1: Was that show big? Though? When you went like were huge?

2111
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,879
Speaker 1: Were you starstruck by everyone?

2112
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 14: Like Maureen McCormick drove a chocolate brown Mercedes onto the

2113
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 14: Paramount Studios a lot, you know, like, oh my god,

2114
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 14: you know she's driving a brand new Chad. She was

2115
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 14: only fifteen and a half. She had her permit, but

2116
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 14: she could drive, you know, with an adults in the car.

2117
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 14: So she had a Mercedes, which was like, oh, this

2118
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 14: is crazy, a fifteen year old with the Mercedes. And

2119
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 14: the producers were the same ones that produced Gilligan's Island

2120
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,839
Speaker 14: and all the shows that I loved. And during the filming,

2121
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 14: Elizabeth Montgomery, who played Samantha un Bewitched, came to the

2122
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 14: set and said hi, So she was all so one

2123
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 14: of my heroes.

2124
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

2125
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 1: So you're sixteen and you're working, are you like, Okay,

2126
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: this is what I'm supposed to do. I know I

2127
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: have school, but this is what I really want to

2128
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: focus on. Or was it just it was so much fun?

2129
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Like what is it for a sixteen year old?

2130
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 14: It was so much fun? And also it was consistent

2131
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 14: at that point, I also had an agent now, so

2132
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 14: I got my screen actors guilled, I get an agent.

2133
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 14: I'm now doing a ton of commercials. And I just

2134
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 14: kept working and working and I never stopped. And there

2135
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 14: was a point where I realized, oh my goodness, I

2136
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 14: think this is my job. I was going to college

2137
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 14: to become a communications major.

2138
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 1: Like how did you graduate high school?

2139
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 4: Though?

2140
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:41,759
Speaker 1: Honestly, like if.

2141
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 14: Oh no, because I worked. Oh well, we had a

2142
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 14: program at high school called four four, so you could

2143
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 14: go to school for four hours and then work part

2144
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 14: time for four hours. And so I got them to

2145
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 14: agree that modeling after school for four hours and doing

2146
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 14: auditions for commercials was a job. And it was because

2147
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 14: I was constantly going on auditions.

2148
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I guess there are so many kids there that act

2149
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: or in the arts where those programs are probably at

2150
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: a lot of the different schools because they have to

2151
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: be yes here that would you know that would happen

2152
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of kids doing that. But

2153
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense.

2154
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 14: But it's much more prevalent, YEA when you go to

2155
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 14: universities now too, and they all have theater departments, film

2156
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 14: departments because it's just you know, there's a need for

2157
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 14: more contact con content and people who make the content.

2158
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 14: So I think that's not going anywhere.

2159
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: Was there ever a place in your career early on

2160
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: where you thought, you know, I.

2161
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 14: Want to sing, oh yeah, but but to.

2162
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Do that, I may have to take two steps back,

2163
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Like did that ever cross your mind?

2164
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 14: I really wanted to? And I remember having a very

2165
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 14: specific moment that, you know, I had a job as

2166
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 14: a ticket taker at this concert venue called the Universal

2167
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 14: Amphitheater and it was an outdoor venue and everybody came

2168
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 14: through there in the seventies, so it was you know,

2169
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 14: Joni Mitchell, Carrol King, James Taylor, Jackson Brown, Elton John,

2170
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 14: the Eagles, you know, you name it. They came through

2171
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 14: and I remember sitting on the steps. I would take

2172
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 14: the tickets. Then they would allow us to watch the

2173
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 14: show and I remember sitting down on the steps and

2174
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 14: having this pit in my stomach, like, how how do

2175
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 14: you get up there and be a singer? How do

2176
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 14: you get to do that? You know, how is Linda

2177
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 14: Ronstad up there? How do you find a band? Do

2178
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 14: I have to play instrument? Like it was? It was

2179
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 14: like a palpable pit in your stomach, like a longing

2180
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 14: and aching, a yearning and not knowing how to make

2181
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 14: that happen. And back then, if by the time I

2182
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 14: started really being becoming established, if you were an actor,

2183
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 14: you stayed in the acting lane, If you were a singer,

2184
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 14: you stayed in the singing lane. And there really wasn't

2185
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 14: crossover or any overlapping that happened.

2186
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 12: Back then.

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01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 14: It was just that that's what you do. If you

2188
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 14: were on Broadway, that was different. But Broadway people didn't

2189
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 14: do film. It was so weird. Now everybody can do everything.

2190
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: The mid nineties was kind of the first, yes, the

2191
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: first layer of even then it was kind of weird,

2192
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: like when Jennifer Lopez would do it early two thousand.

2193
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: But now everybody does everything exactly.

2194
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 14: I think that's good. I don't think that we should

2195
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 14: be limited. Everybody's creative creative people do more than one thing.

2196
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Did your friends know you could sing back, Like, let's

2197
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: say you're back in the trailer. Did they know you

2198
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: as Rita who could sing really well but it's also

2199
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: a great actress. I'm just trying, I'm just finding where.

2200
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 14: Probably no. But when I went to drama school I had.

2201
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 14: I had done this small play called Vanities, and the

2202
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 14: director of that play said, you seem to be like

2203
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 14: to be on the stage. Have you ever had any

2204
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 14: formal training? And I'm like, not formal training. No. He said, well,

2205
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 14: you should probably go to get some like Shakespeare stage training.

2206
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 14: I was like, where do you do that? Like stage?

2207
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 14: You mean like a sound stage at Paramount? Like I

2208
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 14: literally I don't think i'd ever even a play. And

2209
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 14: he said, oh, there's these schools that you can go to,

2210
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 14: and he put me in touch with a woman that

2211
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 14: had come from this program in London at the London

2212
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 14: Academy of Music and Dramatic Art. So I applied and

2213
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 14: I got in. While I was there, they would have

2214
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 14: us do different things to kind of get us out

2215
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 14: of our comfort zone, and one of them was they

2216
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 14: assigned me to sing this opera thing English English. It

2217
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 14: was actually a Rosini opera, but I had to sing

2218
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 14: it as a duet with another woman, and this woman

2219
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 14: was an amazing singer, and I thought, I'm not ever

2220
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 14: going to be pulling this off. But anyways, I did it,

2221
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 14: and I remember one of my teachers came up to

2222
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 14: me and said, I didn't know you could sing. I

2223
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 14: was like am I Like, am I what you call

2224
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 14: that singing? I don't know, but it was nice to

2225
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 14: hear that, you know, in a way.

2226
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 1: Bailey Zimmerman was just working a gas pipeline a few

2227
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: years ago and now he's blowing up. Here is his story.

2228
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: What I read though, was you didn't start off doing

2229
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: music on any sort of social media, like even TikTok.

2230
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 1: You were just showing off truck trucks. Yeah, so let's

2231
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: go back then, before music. You said I'm gonna get

2232
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: on and did you plan to just do it for

2233
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: like your small circle or did you go I got

2234
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: some real I think truck people will follow me. I'm

2235
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 1: going to create a brand here.

2236
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 6: So I started.

2237
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 15: There's this girl in my hometown is Walmart, and she

2238
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 15: was a cashier and she was like I was flirting

2239
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 15: with her, and I was like, I'm going to catch

2240
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 15: you on TikTok because I posted one video and it

2241
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 15: did just, you know, a couple of thousand, and she

2242
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 15: was like, you'll never hit ten thousand followers on TikTok.

2243
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 15: So I just kind of got it in me. I

2244
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 15: was like, well, I'm going to do that. So I started.

2245
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 15: I built this truck. I started just filming it and

2246
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 15: stuff and putting sounds behind it, and then.

2247
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 6: Ended up getting a lot of traction.

2248
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 15: And then I got hooked on truck shows, so then

2249
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 15: I started taking going. Yeah, I took it from just

2250
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 15: like building tracks and posting. It's like, oh, I think

2251
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:57,799
Speaker 15: I'm going to start going to these shows and maybe

2252
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 15: get some, you know, try to win trophies. And I

2253
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 15: got hooked on that in twenty nineteen and then just

2254
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 15: kept doing my truck stuff. And then one day I

2255
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 15: had never sang before, and I was wanting to get

2256
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 15: out of the pipeline industry just because of not seeing

2257
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 15: family and being gone so much. And so I was like, Okay,

2258
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 15: I'm gonna start building trucks. That's a profession. And not

2259
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 15: only am I gonna post them, but I'm gonna build

2260
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 15: other people's trucks. So me and my brother John started

2261
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 15: doing that, and like three days into business, I tried

2262
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 15: singing just in the shop and this dude named Gavin

2263
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 15: Lucas from the same town I'm in. I was like, hey, man,

2264
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 15: I think you've got a cool voice, and I write songs.

2265
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 15: I can play guitar. Would you ever just want to

2266
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 15: hang sometime? And I was like, yeah, man, I'll hang sometime.

2267
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 15: I've never really watched anybody play guitar and sing at

2268
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 15: the same time.

2269
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: That's how it started.

2270
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 6: That's how the whole thing started.

2271
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, dear God, I've never heard of a more random,

2272
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: cooler oops but awesome story.

2273
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 15: It was very random. We like jammed like three times.

2274
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 15: I was just so in awe of him playing guitar

2275
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 15: and sing at the same time. He's like writing, this

2276
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 15: guy can write songs. So one night we were hanging

2277
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 15: and he said, hey, man, tonight we should try to

2278
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 15: like really write a song and see if we can

2279
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 15: write songs. So that was my first single, Never Coming Home.

2280
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 15: That night we wrote the first verse and my just

2281
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 15: like a week ind of hanging with Gavin and we

2282
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,839
Speaker 15: wrote the first verse and then posted it on TikTok

2283
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 15: that night at like two am and I woke up

2284
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,799
Speaker 15: and I like, kid, you know, I woke up had

2285
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 15: almost two million views, a crazy amount of comments.

2286
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 6: I called my union that I was in, that I pipelined.

2287
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: With quit after one video in the next morning. Yeah,

2288
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 1: and you were already looking to get out, but listen

2289
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: when there's not a paycheck coming.

2290
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2291
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2292
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 6: We were laid off at the time and got it.

2293
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 15: I just felt like, man, if I'm going to chase something,

2294
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 15: this is definitely something to chase.

2295
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 6: You know, you might as well try it.

2296
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: But what's funny is You're like, if I'm going to

2297
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: chase something, I guess it is this thing that just

2298
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: randomly popped up a couple days ago. That's awesome.

2299
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2300
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:57,799
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, man, did.

2301
01:40:58,520 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: You never sing as a kid?

2302
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 15: My mom would always like tell me in the truck, like, oh,

2303
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 15: you should sing. I used to be able to sing

2304
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 15: before I started smoking cigarettes. I used to be able

2305
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 15: to sing and stuff, and I just always blew it

2306
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 15: off because that's my mom, you know, So I always

2307
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 15: just blew it off. And then over my life, I've

2308
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 15: had like three people tell me, man, I think you

2309
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 15: could sing, But.

2310
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: But did you ever sing where people could actually hear you?

2311
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 6: No?

2312
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 15: It all started like two years from now or two

2313
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 15: years back from now. I like sang one day and

2314
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 15: then after that I had like three people tell me

2315
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 15: and there.

2316
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 6: Just random like a random place.

2317
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 15: I think it was up at the courts in Flora, Illinois,

2318
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 15: like the basketball court.

2319
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 17: Yeah, so what do you mean?

2320
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: You're just like just right here me and you and

2321
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: you're like you are my sunshine.

2322
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Luke Combs Hurricane.

2323
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 15: This kid named Trey ZOOTI was just jamming on the

2324
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 15: guitar and I was real bored and you always just

2325
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 15: went up to the basketball courts to hang out. And

2326
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 15: he was like jamming on the guitar and I was like,

2327
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 15: I'll try to sing. And then I tried, and then

2328
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 15: I tried again, and then that video. I was like,

2329
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 15: you know what, I'm just going to try it. Like

2330
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:05,759
Speaker 15: what can it hurt if I tried singing?

2331
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 12: That's crazy.

2332
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: You're like a kid who's walking by a ball field

2333
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh man, there's a ball land down there.

2334
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: Let me just credit it. Oh you have a glove

2335
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 1: one over there. Am I supposed to throw it to you?

2336
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2337
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Pow one hundred and two mile an hour fast off.

2338
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 1: And you're like Wow. Nate Smith talks about the odd

2339
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: jobs that he had while he was trying to make

2340
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: it any music, and Nate shares how working in the

2341
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: medical field and writing songs are actually very similar.

2342
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 18: So I read you went back home right and almost

2343
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 18: gave up on singing?

2344
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 9: Oh for sure?

2345
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 18: Yeah, So what made you just want to give up?

2346
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2347
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 20: Just to be honest, I was crazy in love with

2348
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 20: this Southern bell and we got married my first time

2349
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 20: moving here. She was my next door neighbor, and we

2350
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 20: just had just a lot of passion for each other.

2351
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 9: We eloped, we did.

2352
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 20: And I'm a really open book, by the way, Like

2353
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 20: I don't there's nothing to hide in.

2354
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 18: Wait, okay, good.

2355
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 2: I was wondering.

2356
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 18: I was like, if you don't feel comfortable talking about something.

2357
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 20: No, I mean, I've told this to a lot of people,

2358
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 20: own stuff, and I honestly wish it really well. We

2359
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 20: haven't talked in a long time, but we ended up

2360
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 20: divorcing it. It didn't work as really painful for both

2361
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 20: of us, but that's what ultimately led me back to California.

2362
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 20: So like, I just was like at the bottom of

2363
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 20: the barrel, just upset, you know. In my publishing company

2364
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 20: was like, we're not going to keep you signed if

2365
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 20: you're not going to stay in Nashville. I'm like, well,

2366
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 20: I got to go home and be with my family.

2367
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 20: So I went home, and luckily, I've been a nurse

2368
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 20: assistant since I was eighteen, so I had a job

2369
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 20: everywhere I went in a hospital or an elderly home

2370
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 20: or anything like that. So I went back and started

2371
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 20: working right away at a hospital and started taking care

2372
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 20: of patients.

2373
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 18: And didn't you have other odd jobs too? Your Uber driver?

2374
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Is that right?

2375
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 3: Yep?

2376
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 20: Uber, I was a courier for a dental lab, just

2377
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 20: worked at hotels and just whatever I could get.

2378
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 7: You know.

2379
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 18: But I'm assuming since you go back there, you're like, Okay,

2380
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 18: something is still missing, you know, Like I know this

2381
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 18: is in my heart, this is what I want to do,

2382
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 18: So now what you know?

2383
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 20: I was always it was always a there's always a

2384
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 20: lot of like confliction with it, because like I would

2385
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 20: ask my friends and they'd be like, you know, deep

2386
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 20: down and you want to do music. I'm like, yeah,

2387
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 20: but nursing is really great and I love taking care

2388
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 20: of people. So I was really split between these two worlds.

2389
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 20: And I feel like for the first time in my life.

2390
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 20: Now those two worlds have collided in a good way.

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Speaker 20: Like I feel like I am helping people and I'm

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Speaker 20: making music. So it's kind of like this cool thing

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Speaker 20: where I'm like I feel like nurse singing Nate or

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Speaker 20: something like, I don't know.

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Speaker 18: No, it's so true, like the therapeutic part of music.

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Speaker 18: That's what it is, is that feeling and you get

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Speaker 18: to do But that's awesome. Yeah, so you did come

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Speaker 18: back after or what was the turning point that made

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Speaker 18: you move back.

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Speaker 9: To Nashville for the second time.

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Speaker 18: Yes, for the second time.

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Speaker 9: So, so I was working as a nurse assistant.

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Speaker 20: I was working in ICU and trauma taking care of

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01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 20: patients really crazy stuff, you know, like doing compressions CPR

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Speaker 20: on people in front of their family, like crazy stuff

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Speaker 20: like just oh my god.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, it was just one of those things. I

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Speaker 9: was helping out my brother at his church. He was

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Speaker 9: a youth pastor.

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Speaker 20: I was helping out the youth band and like getting

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Speaker 20: them together and like, hey, you play the you play this,

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Speaker 20: and then this is your part and.

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Speaker 9: Like kind of kind of raised them up a little bit.

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Speaker 9: It was really cool.

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Speaker 20: And then I'm sure it's not every blog that I've

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Speaker 20: talked on and stuff. But my town caught on fire

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Speaker 20: kind of out of nowhere, which is I did not know.

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Speaker 18: This, honestly, I know this part about you no, oh gosh, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 18: and so this is a huge thing that a lot

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Speaker 18: of people may not even know.

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Speaker 9: Also oh man, okay.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 20: So Paradise, California. So it's called the campfire. It a

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Speaker 20: couple of years ago, just randomly caught. It was twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 20: November eleventh and twenty eighteen and yeah, or November eighth.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it get it.

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01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 20: Kind of mixed up, but it happened. And then like

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01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 20: we lost everything I've ever owned in my entire life.

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Speaker 9: My brother lost his house, they just had a baby.

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Speaker 20: I lost my apartment with all my stuff, like really

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01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 20: really really traumatic. And then about ninety people passed away

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01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 20: in that fire because it was like they're all trying

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01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 20: to leave at the same time and it just wasn't working.

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01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 20: So yeah, it was a really scary day because like

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01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 20: my brother called me, was like I'm having a hard

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01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 20: time getting out of here, and and it was really

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01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 20: really hard.

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Speaker 9: It's really hard.

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01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 20: And then once once he came, my dad had a

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01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 20: house in the town right next door to us, called Chico.

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Speaker 20: So we all met up at my dad's and then

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Speaker 20: my brother's like, hey, I'm good, And when he came

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01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 20: into the door, we're just like weeping, like I hugged him.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm so thankful you're okay. Like it was,

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01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 9: it was nuts.

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01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 20: And then you'd go to like there was just chaos

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01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 20: in that whole city, like people were sleeping in tents

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Speaker 20: and the Walmart parking.

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Speaker 1: Lots, all the stuff.

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Speaker 20: So I was lucky enough to have a place a

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01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 20: house to go do because everything rented up to within

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01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 20: the first day or two, so you couldn't even get

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Speaker 20: a rental anywhere.

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Speaker 9: Like, it was pretty nuts.

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Speaker 18: I can't even I can't imagine that.

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01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's terrible.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, there's a documentary on Netflix too, really, yeah, I'm

2458
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 20: about it on there, so I think Ron Howard produced it.

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Speaker 18: Wow, Okay, I'll have to check that out because I

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01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 18: mean that's crazy and that's a huge moment also like

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01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 18: for your career too, as far as inspiring you, you know,

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01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 18: to want to do more with music.

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01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 20: Right, Yeah, I mean that's kind of what started in

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01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 20: a sense. Because I'm gonna tell this part really quick,

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01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 20: but when I first moved to Nashville, my supervisor at

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01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 20: Starbucks because I got a regular shop when I was

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Speaker 20: out here.

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Speaker 4: The first time.

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Speaker 20: His name was Tom Boprey, and Tom was looking for

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01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 20: gigs and stuff. So Tom actually was my I was

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01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 20: his first gig as a bass player. And after I

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Speaker 20: left Nashville, he went on to be part of Florida

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01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 20: Georgia Line for the last like whatever ten years that

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Speaker 20: they ran their main bass player.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so we reconnected.

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01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 20: Kind of right before the fire and stuff, and we're

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01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 20: talking and stuff. And so when the fire happened, I

2478
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 20: moved in with my dad. He ended up calling up

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01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 20: a company that gave his band guitars, so they sent

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Speaker 20: me an acoustic guitar.

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Speaker 9: I lost my other one, nice.

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01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 20: Skipson and stuff in the fire, and yeah, so I

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01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 20: have this guitar sent on my front doorstep. And I

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01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 20: ended up writing a song about paradise called one of

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01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 20: These Days with one of my friends and just put

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01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 20: up on Facebook just to like help out the community

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01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 20: and stuff like that, and it ended up like locally

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01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 20: like touching a lot of people and it was just

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01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 20: really really rad to see that. And I started doing

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01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 20: benefit concerts and stuff and then we got this idea

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01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 20: where like, what if we record it and then give

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01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 20: all the money away to somebody who's in need or

2493
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 20: a charity in the area or Red Cross or whatever

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01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 20: we can do.

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01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 9: So we did.

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01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 20: So we flew to Nashville recorded this song. I met

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01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 20: up with Tombo Pray to thank him, like forgiving me

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01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 20: the guitar, and he said, hey, you should have my

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01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 20: friend Joel Brier mix mix the song for you.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, who's Joel. He's just a good friend of mine.

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01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 20: Now Joel, long story short, has become one of my

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01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 20: best friends, and he's he. I have a few songs,

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01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 20: the first songs I put out Sleeve under my Skin, Wildfire,

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01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 20: I Don't Want to Go to Heaven, We're all produced

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01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 20: by Joel. So, like it's just from literally met up

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01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 20: with tom at lunch. He called Joel. That's how he

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01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:45,480
Speaker 20: met that whole thing. So then I come back to California,

2508
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 20: raised some money on the song, and everything I had

2509
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 20: I ended up giving it to this really cool single

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01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 20: mom who like was moving out of Paradise, who lost everything.

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01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 20: And I looked at her and I was like, the

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01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 20: reason I got the guitar, the reason that I wrote

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01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 20: this song. The reason that I met this person, that

2514
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 20: person was all because of you, Like this was meant

2515
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 20: to be your moment, Like it was like the coolest

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01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 20: thing to see that happen, and like like that's how

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01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 20: loved you are, Like you know, it was just really

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01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 20: cool to see that. So that's what started. And then

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Speaker 20: I started writing songs again. I started working with Joel

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01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,759
Speaker 20: and flying in and out of Nashville, and then eventually

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01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 20: my friends were like, you should go back, and they

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Speaker 20: raised a GoFundMe to get me to go to Nashville.

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Speaker 9: But my lease didn't start until July.

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Speaker 20: This was like in April or something or May somewhere

2525
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 20: around there, and so I had to live out of

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01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 20: my car for about a month and a half and

2527
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 20: stayed in rest stops, camped, met random people on the road,

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01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 20: stayed in their living rooms, like whatever I could do

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Speaker 20: until I got to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for listening to the special edition of the Bobbycast,

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Speaker 1: all about artists that had to work hard doing something

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Speaker 1: else in order to get where they wanted to get.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that inspired you or at least entertained you. Thank

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