1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast. 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 3: Initially, when I said to Alex, was gonna be peeping 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: the deuce and She's like, I need a poop name. 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: All of Paul's son's friends are commenting. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 5: I was great for engagement because they were all like, 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 5: mister p mister peril, mister. 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 6: Fit was tied a drips. Do you like girls and crocs? 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 6: I don't know why that sounded exceptionally creepy, but. 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: It's a it's a god given talent. Curious if any 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: of you saw Paul's Twitter fight was Seth Davis. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 7: I found myself on the couch. However, they crossed the 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 7: line when they accused him of openly rooting for the 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 7: team as a parallel disciple. I jumped in with proof 17 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 7: of Paul not being a homer and defended Paul's honor. 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 6: I was just hoping some of you got the same enjoyment. 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 6: Seth Davis gets under my skin, like I don't think 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 6: anybody else does. On Twitter. 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: Touchdow touch Craft. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 6: I'm gonna throw that in with my wrist. There you go. 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: Evans Live reaction to the cold strange draft pick. If 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: you guys haven't heard it, it's it's it's hilarious. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 8: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 3: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: at you Lees. 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 9: Stadium, and we are officially in the month of April. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 9: And you know what that means. We're that much closer to. 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: The draft twenty two days, yea twenty three day. 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 9: I'm genuinely excited about this. Yeah, yeah, I really am, 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 9: as you should. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: I'm excited because it's all gonna happen fast. You know, 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: like there's not gonna be a lot of like sitting 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: around waiting to see who falls to you. You're gonna 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: know in like like the first half hour what's going down. 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 6: Absolutely third overall pick right to it. 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: But then you got to sit around to be like 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: we getting back in could I mean that top of 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: the second round pick is valuable? Yeah, you know, well 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: that's when you get to like, you know, eleven eleven 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: thirty at night. It's it feels like the Knight's kind 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: of wrapping down. People are leaving and all of a sudden, 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: you know, there's always seems like somebody trades back in. 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: Patriots are back on the clock, and then it's like 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: go time again, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: so they'll be ready for that. 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 9: So it's Deuce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 9: Jules and Matt and the booth and we're talking Patriots 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 9: for the next two hours and anything else that's going on. 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 9: So that brings me to the next question, what's going on? 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I think we're getting into silly season. We were 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: recording a segment for Draft Countdown before this, and that's 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: you know, this is the part where things start to 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: come out. That's just like, what really with you know 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: the report yesterday that Elliot wolf Is is into JJ McCarthy, 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: So you know, it's one of those things're like, really, maybe, 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 60 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 9: Well, that's been going on for a couple of weeks 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 9: now that the Patriots have interest in JJ McCarthy. Now 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 9: I don't know who started that. I know we have 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 9: some Michigan people that work up in admin. Maybe they 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 9: start it, but I blame Zoe. I mean, let's just say, 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 9: should they have interest in JJ McCarthy. 66 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: No, wow? 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 6: Should they? 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, in the interest of no stone unturned? 69 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 6: Yes? Yeah. 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 10: I think that they should have interest in all the quarterbacks, 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 10: and they should be doing the homework on all the quarterbacks, 72 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 10: which is why I'm so surprised that they don't seem 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 10: to want to touch Michael Pennock with a ten foot pole. 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 9: I don't know if that don't don't judge by what 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 9: they're doing, because you know they Let's just say, this 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 9: is the other thing that just drives me crazy about 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 9: like people reading into not just what the pages, but 78 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 9: any team. Let's just say that you Michael Pennix has 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 9: a lot of tape. He's been playing a lot of 80 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 9: football for a while, right, yep. 81 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: What else do you need to know? 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 10: Well, so, why don't you want to know the guy? 83 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 9: Like, no, no, but that doesn't he could be coming 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 9: here at some point. Just because you didn't go to 85 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 9: his pro day doesn't mean he's not coming here. 86 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: So like, don't read into all that stuff. Don't fall 87 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: into the trap. 88 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 10: So it was it just was reported yesterday or the 89 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 10: day before that, probably yesterday his list of thirty visits 90 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 10: that he's had scheduled so far, and the Patriots aren't 91 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 10: on the list. 92 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: Okay, well, then they don't have interesting. 93 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 10: It's one or the other. They love them and they 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 10: don't want anybody to know, or they have zero interesting. 95 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 10: He's off the board because injuries or whatever. 96 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 6: So can I just like take a you know, kind 97 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 6: of a logical way outside. Look, if the Patriots loved 98 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 6: Michael Pennix, why would the need for a smoke screen? 99 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 6: Maybe they want him to last a thirty Oh I'm 100 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 6: not saying it's a smoke screen. 101 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 9: I'm just saying we've got what we need on him. 102 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 9: We don't need to do anymore. 103 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 6: No, No, But a lot of people are, you know, sort 104 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 6: of talking about like what Evan just said, Like, you know, 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 6: so either they really like him or they have no 106 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 6: interest in him because they haven't really done any real research. 107 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 6: I agree with you, like you can figure out to me, 108 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 6: I think they would have been more of a presence 109 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 6: at the pro day if they had a lot of 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 6: interest in them. But I just don't understand not Evan 111 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 6: didn't say this. Evan's sort of talking to the people 112 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 6: that are trying to like what does it mean? What 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 6: does it mean? Like I just can't imagine what, Like 114 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: why do you have to downplay him when you have 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 6: the third pick and if you want him to last 116 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 6: to thirty four? There's a lot of teams that need quarterbacks. Yeah, 117 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 6: in that teens area, Like it's. 118 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: Kind of a stretch. I think, like the Patriots are 119 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: gonna wait and they don't want anything to take them. 120 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: They're gonna take them at the top of the side. 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 6: Does that make sense to people? I'm gonna send set 122 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 6: up a smoke screen so people don't think I'm interested 123 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 6: him at thirty four, Or maybe. 124 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 10: It's a trade down with the Vikings and you have 125 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 10: eleven and twenty three and one of those two picks 126 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 10: turns into Michael Pennox. 127 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 6: I don't know. 128 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 10: I just in years past Belichick has done this where 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 10: the guy they end up the one that I always 130 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 10: remember his Nate Soldier, who was as shocked as anybody 131 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 10: that they that the Patriots were on the other side 132 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 10: of the phone when he got the call in the 133 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 10: first round. This happened sometimes where teams are just so 134 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 10: stand offish with the prospect that but. 135 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: Even that, I don't think it was a smoke scream. 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 6: No, And Solder actually told us, you remember, because he 137 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 6: came into the studio and I remember talking to him 138 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 6: right outside the studio and he said he came away 139 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 6: from the meeting with them. He didn't think that they 140 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 6: loved him. Yeah, he didn't think that was going to 141 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 6: be one of the teams. You're right, you remember it, right, Evan. 142 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 6: He didn't think it was one of the teams. But 143 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 6: they did meet with him, and they. 144 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: To him, and they sent Dante out, you know, a 145 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: couple of days. 146 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 6: After the one that said that was you know, sold 147 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 6: on him. 148 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think according to Dante, it wasn't like 149 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 9: they were trying to hide it. 150 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: It was just somebody like, hey, we should check this 151 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: guy out. 152 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 9: And Bill said, all right, go go look at him. 153 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 9: And Dante came back and he was like, you need 154 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 9: to take this. 155 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 6: It is one of those things though, with all these reports, 156 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 6: you can make it mean anything you want and you're 157 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 6: not wrong or right. 158 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: Just for comparison, seek to weather and at the two 159 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: pro days, it was was pretty much like a VP 160 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: Mayo Macadoo, yep, TC McCarty. 161 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 10: Mean, the whole people that were the same eight people 162 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 10: at both pro days, but there was nine total. But 163 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 10: they Cam Williams went to Washington for their pro day 164 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 10: and I can't remem remember the other scout's name. I'll 165 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 10: look it up in a second. He switched places with 166 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 10: Cam Williams and came in for the UNC pro day. 167 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 9: And not to say that it's a smoke swee, but 168 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 9: let's just say that. You know, again, you have all 169 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 9: the tape you need on Michael Pennix. You didn't go 170 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 9: to his pro day. He's not on your he's not 171 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 9: one of your thirty visits. That doesn't mean you still 172 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 9: can't go out there and visit with him one on one. 173 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: Right. 174 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 10: The biggest thing to me is just it's not about 175 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 10: watching his pro day. It's about getting to know the kid, 176 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 10: That's what I mean. You know, you can take them 177 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 10: out to dinner and getting to know him a little bit. 178 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: You can still do that even if he's not coming here. Yeah, 179 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: you know. 180 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 6: So it just would would have thought that the convenient 181 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 6: time to do that is when he's there. 182 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that's Pro day. 183 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 9: But you know, like, but you have to share time 184 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 9: with other teams. You can go out and schedule your 185 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 9: own have spend a day with them. 186 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 6: You know. Yeah. 187 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 10: I was listening to the Move the Sticks podcast and 188 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 10: Daniel Jeremiah told a story about when he took a 189 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 10: prospect out for dinner good night before his pro day 190 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 10: and he said, you know, order whatever you want, like 191 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 10: we're paying, order whatever you want. And the player didn't 192 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 10: want to order anything, and Daniel Jeremiah is like, are 193 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 10: you not hungry? Like what's going on here? He's like, no, 194 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 10: I have two more of these after this, so I'm 195 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 10: I pacing myself for the next meal. So he's like, yes, 196 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 10: I just sat there by myself and made a steak 197 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 10: all by myself at the table and this kid just 198 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 10: sat there and we just you know, I just fired 199 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 10: off questions and he answered water. 200 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 6: You know when they go to the pro days and 201 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 6: they have separate meetings like not they don't meet with 202 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 6: everybody that goes to the protece, I know, like you 203 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 6: have on your own. No. 204 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 9: But if you if you go to the LSU pro day, 205 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 9: this good. You get your time with Daniels. But the 206 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 9: other teams are gonna spend time with him too. There 207 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 9: they came out to see him. 208 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: But everybody's gonna do. But like you understand, like that 209 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. When you do it, you're not sharing time 210 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 6: a time by yourself. 211 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: You're getting a time by yourself. But you don't have 212 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: all day. 213 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 6: You have whatever amount you want. 214 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 9: No, you don't have any amount you want because other 215 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 9: teams need to see them on that day as well. 216 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 6: So okay, so then you can schedule another time like 217 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 6: the next day exactly. This is what I'm saying. 218 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: That's what I just said. 219 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 6: No, you would think that it would be convenient when 220 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 6: he's at Washington and you are there to watch him. 221 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 6: You can get it all done. 222 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 9: It once they have these things called airplanes. Now you 223 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 9: can get anywhere you want, like like within hours. 224 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, So I don't understand why you wouldn't just do 225 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 6: it when you know he's there, Because why you're setting 226 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 6: up separate like this whole Oh because someone else is there, 227 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 6: Like no, it's why they want it there. 228 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 9: Maybe you want to spend more time than what's available 229 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 9: on that day or weekend. 230 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 6: Then do what you did with May and Daniels, because 231 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: evidently they had separate meetings with them. 232 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 9: I'm sure they did, but I'm just saying maybe maybe 233 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 9: I'm just saying every guy is different, you know, just 234 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 9: like Nate Solder, and you never know, you know, you 235 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 9: can't tell anything right now in terms of what the 236 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 9: I'm telling. 237 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: The Patriots don't know who they're gonna pick right now. 238 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 6: They know they know who they want to pick, But 239 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 6: what what if Daniels, you know, what if they don't 240 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 6: like Daniels and all of a sudden may go second, 241 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 6: and now. 242 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 10: You know, my biggest my biggest takeaway trying to read 243 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 10: read the room at these pro days was just watching 244 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 10: at both days the Commander's brass and the Patriots brass 245 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 10: stand directly front and center behind the quarterback as he 246 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 10: was doing his throwing session, and it was almost like 247 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 10: everybody else was like, well, these two guys are one 248 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 10: of you know, they're going to these two teams, Like 249 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 10: why even bother you know, trying to get a good 250 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 10: seat for this because and then at the end of it, 251 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 10: Mac Brown took a picture with Gerrodmeo and Dan Quinn 252 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 10: just being like, my guy's going to play for one 253 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 10: of you two, so let's take a picture for it 254 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 10: just felt like, you know, there was no Giants contingent, 255 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 10: there was no Minnesota contingent, There wasn't anybody else that 256 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 10: was really thinking we have any shot of I think the. 257 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 6: Patriots like they feel that way, Like Washington's taken one 258 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 6: of two guys. So we're gonna have the option for 259 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 6: one of two quarterbacks, and they have to know. If 260 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 6: it's a quarterback, then we're gonna take him. If it's 261 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 6: b quarterback and they don't like him, then here's the 262 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 6: contingency plan. It's Marvin Harrison, it's Joe Walt, it's whoever, 263 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 6: it's straight down, whatever the cases may be. But I 264 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 6: got to think that they they know. I hope they know. 265 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: Can I ask that I wanted to ask you about that. 266 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 9: Go ahead, friend, Kelly the coach, you know, Daniels, coach 267 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 9: at LSU, kind of slipped out and kind of intimated 268 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 9: that the commanders are going to take his guy. 269 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: I like it. What do you think that he just 270 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: mess up? 271 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 6: Do you think he screwed up? 272 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: I mean, my initial thing was just that he was 273 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: acknowledging that Caleb Womas is going to go first, but 274 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: that his guy was the second best guy, and that 275 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 3: that was That was kind of how I took it. 276 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 6: Okay, that's interesting. I hadn't heard that theory. 277 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: That was That was my interior theory. I thought that's 278 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: kind of how I wanted to hear too, So I. 279 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 6: Go, you know, as you guys know, I go to 280 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 6: deep places. I thought it sounded funny. I thought the 281 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 6: Washington part sounded different than the rest of the audio. 282 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: Did he say with a Southern was it? 283 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 11: No? 284 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 6: Hedn't have said what maybe that it kind of sounded 285 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 6: funny to me, like that the audio could have possibly 286 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 6: been doctored in some way. But I haven't heard anybody 287 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 6: because it hasn't really been a huge thing. 288 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 9: No, No, I heard it kind of like in passing. 289 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 9: It's like, oh, you know, he thinks he certainly thinks 290 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 9: the commanders are. 291 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 6: Gonna take him. Someone told me that that happened with 292 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 6: Stroud last year, and it was wrong. It was Carolina. 293 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 6: Someone had talked to I don't know if it was 294 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 6: Ryan Day or someone in Ohio state talked about that, 295 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 6: and you know that's you know, in Carolina, we'll got 296 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 6: a good or something like that. 297 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 9: And then you know, I don't know if this is 298 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 9: a continuation of my rant last week. But you know, 299 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 9: we're still hearing all the media people complaining because Gerard 300 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 9: Mayo's all over the place, he's not giving us, you know, 301 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 9: he's not answering. He's all over you know, you don't 302 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 9: know if. 303 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: They're picking third or trading down good? Like, why do 304 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: they expect Gerard Mayo to just tell them what we're doing? 305 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 6: Like he's the king of doing this to me? But 306 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 6: I don't know where these comflict. I don't know. 307 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Oh you haven't. Oh my god. 308 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: It's like he's all over the place. It's word salad. 309 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 6: It's I've heard word salad. I haven't heard. He's not 310 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 6: telling us what they're doing. Well, that's what those are 311 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 6: two different things, that's what you know. 312 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: It's like he talks a lot, you know. But but I. 313 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: Don't think people are looking at it. He talks a lot, 314 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 6: and he doesn't tell us Why you're not telling us that? 315 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 6: Why you're not telling us who they're going to take 316 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 6: with the third pick? 317 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 11: Right? 318 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 6: No one talked more than without saying anything than Bill. 319 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Of course, that's like you. They all do that. 320 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: You work in NFL media, You better get used to 321 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: word salad because you're gonna beating it's just about every day. 322 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 6: I don't think people are wondering why Gered Mayo won't 323 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 6: tell them what they're taking with the third pick. But 324 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 6: that's me. 325 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 9: You know, he said he was going to be what 326 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 9: he say at the owner's meeting, I'm going to be 327 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 9: Chris still lies our plans or something like that, if 328 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 9: you get the word he used. 329 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: He did. 330 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 9: He didn't do anything like that. He didn't crystallize the plans. 331 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 9: Of course, he's not going to He's not going to 332 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 9: tell you what their plans are. Why are we surprised 333 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 9: at that? 334 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: No, I mean I think I think I've been there 335 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: for just about everything he said this offseason, and I 336 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: think he's, you know, doing a good job. It just 337 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: like I don't know that you know, I mean, he's 338 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: he touches on the hits, but he doesn't can you know, 339 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: you know, they need But even. 340 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 9: On that first day when he was announced to the 341 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 9: media and he said, we're going to take you know, uh, 342 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 9: the best player at a very important position, and everyone 343 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 9: you know said quarterback. And I can understand that, but 344 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 9: wide receiver is an important position. Tight ends, I mean, 345 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 9: now left tackle is an important position. 346 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: So like, relax, he's. 347 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: Given you enough to kind of have some fun with, 348 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: but but you're not going to pin him down. And 349 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: that's to be. 350 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 10: The more that I hear from him though, at the 351 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 10: owner's meetings especially, his eyes are widening to trading down 352 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 10: a little bit. 353 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: I think just. 354 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: Because I think, well the owner said it too. 355 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 10: I I just think that they feel like it's it's 356 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 10: going to be a long process, that they can't just 357 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 10: drop a quarterback in here and flip a switch. And 358 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 10: I think, you know, looking at a team like the Texans, 359 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 10: it took them a couple of years before they drafted 360 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 10: the court. They had two full draft classes before they 361 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 10: drafted C. J. Stroud in Houston, And I just that's 362 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 10: that's the only thing that I took away from any 363 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 10: of his comments recently was him saying the thing about 364 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 10: the more picks that you have, the better off you 365 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 10: are and that sort of stuff. 366 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 9: Well, you know, the thing we have no idea about 367 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 9: is if they do trade down, is there a quarterback 368 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 9: consolation prize that they'd be happy with. 369 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: That's either you take it. 370 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 10: And that's the other thing that he said. He said, 371 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 10: there's five or six quarterbacks in this class, so we 372 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 10: know the four and I assume you know, Pennix and 373 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 10: Knicks are the five and six. Maybe, yeah, I do, 374 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 10: I do I think that bo Nicks is the most 375 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 10: exciting prospect. No, he's kind of he's kind of an elasto. 376 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 9: That JJ McCarthy is now four like he's up there now, Like, No, 377 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 9: that wasn't the way it was three months ago, two 378 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 9: months ago. 379 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I mean, that's kind of how it goes, 380 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: I think with especially with the player who won the 381 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: national championship and you know, had a great season, and 382 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: I just think as people, you know, I mean, it's 383 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: the it's the unknown, that's what everyone's kind of drilling 384 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: down on. I think i'd feel fine with him in 385 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: the mid first round. 386 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 9: And in defense of McCarthy, it's not like he's shown 387 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 9: he can't do things. He just hasn't done them right 388 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 9: to a large extent. 389 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 10: And I just don't like and I know I'm on 390 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 10: an island on this. I don't see him as an unknown. 391 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 10: I actually think that he's one of the safer picks 392 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 10: out of all these guys, because you know that he 393 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 10: can play as a sidecard like he can he can 394 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 10: do just enough on big game situations. You know, he's 395 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 10: really really good on third down when he had some 396 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 10: opportunities to play close games in the fourth quarter, he 397 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 10: was pretty good in those situations. That's why I keep 398 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 10: going back to Brock Party as the comparison, because I 399 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 10: think that. 400 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: He's got some about Matt Jones. 401 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 10: I think he's more talented than Mac like. 402 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: Physically Rock Party stinks, yeah, And I think J. J. 403 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 6: Mccarr Dorothy is pretty average too. 404 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 10: That didn't go the way I don't think that brought 405 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 10: Purty stinks and some of it's like performative on my 406 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 10: part with Purdy, But I think that he is a 407 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 10: system quarterback. I think that he is a guy that 408 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 10: you plug him in and he's able to make some 409 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 10: of the plays that allow that the offense is allowing 410 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 10: him to make. 411 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 6: And I think J. J. 412 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 10: McCarthy's the same way. I think if you put J. 413 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 10: Jon McCarthy on Minnesota next year and he has Justin 414 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 10: Jefferson and Jordan Addison in a good play caller and 415 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 10: Kevin O'Connell, I think he would be fine. The difference 416 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 10: between everybody else with me and McCarthy is I don't 417 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 10: necessarily see his ceiling as like, oh, he's this ball 418 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 10: of clay that in three years he's going to be 419 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 10: this incredible quarterback. I actually see him as like I 420 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 10: can win an Action championship with this. 421 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 9: What is he done to prove that to be true 422 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 9: for you? Like he's his ceiling isn't that high. 423 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 10: I just don't think that he has great post snap 424 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 10: decision making and accuracy. I think that he the accuracy 425 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 10: when you watch him. You know, some of the throws 426 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 10: that he made at the cop where he's airmailing deep 427 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 10: outs like ten, that's all over his film at Michigan. 428 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 10: That's not just like an issue that you saw at 429 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 10: the combine. I think that some of the times, you know, 430 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 10: he throws the ball into team meetings just for no reason, 431 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 10: and he has some bad decisions post snap with the football. 432 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 10: I don't think that those things are everybody disassumed taking. Yeah, 433 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 10: but Drake May does it like as a playmaker, like 434 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 10: I think JJ McCarthy is doing it in structure like JJ. 435 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 10: Like Drake May is a lot like Josh Allen, where 436 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 10: like you're going to have some of those like yeah no, no, 437 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 10: yes type of throws. I don't think JJ McCarthy has 438 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 10: those types of physical tools. I think he's an instructor. 439 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 10: I don't want to use the word game manager, because 440 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 10: I think that that's a little cool, but just a 441 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 10: rock party type that. Yeah, he brought party, brought his 442 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 10: team to the super Bowl. You know, like that's that's 443 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 10: not an easy feed. And I think that JJ McCarthy 444 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 10: could do the same. I just don't look at JJ 445 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 10: McCarthy as the guy that you draft and now all 446 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 10: of a sudden your team is a contender, you know, like, 447 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 10: I don't think that he's going to be the reason 448 00:18:59,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 10: why you're winning games. 449 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: That's why I'm I'm I'm just Jayden Daniels. 450 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think Jayden Daniels could because of his running ability. 451 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: Okay, but that's. 452 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: Why I feel like I'm kind of out on a 453 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: lot of these guys except for Drake May right now. 454 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: And I just I think that this team needs to 455 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: shoot for the stars with the quarterback position, and. 456 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 9: So give Gopher Caleb williamsh Yeah, I mean, I I 457 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 9: mean I think he's he's a ride. 458 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: He's a ride. I mean, I think he's gonna He's 459 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: either gonna. 460 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 6: I know that a lot of people think he will be. 461 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: He's not going to be available. 462 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: If you trade, if you are willing to give up 463 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: a king's ransom, No, Chicago. 464 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't be willing to do that, but I 465 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: just I just wonder if you miss on May, if 466 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: you really have to take the obligatory Spencer Rattler you 467 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: know later, like it's it's just to get guys that 468 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: you think have ceilings. I'm so sick of just talking 469 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: about guys. Well, he's got a low floor and he's 470 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 3: going to be okay, like high floor, Like he's got 471 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: a low floor. I thought. 472 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 9: So, if you're Chicago and someone wants to give you 473 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 9: a mic get a deal, you don't settle for the 474 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 9: third quarter for selection three and take a boatload of picks. 475 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 6: I wouldn't. I mean, you're just talking about a Mike 476 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 6: Dickett thing. Yeah, so you get you trade your draft 477 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 6: for Yeah, no, great, I have two sixth and seventh 478 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 6: round pick. No, okay, not if I believe in the 479 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 6: quarterback now you want to Like it's silly. It's like 480 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: a herschel Walker kind of trade, you know, where I'm 481 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 6: getting multiple first round picks for years to come. Maybe 482 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 6: I think about that, but I probably wouldn't, and I 483 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: don't think Chicago would because I don't think they would 484 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 6: have traded justin Field so they had indecision. Maybe I 485 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 6: think they sort of know what they want to do 486 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 6: and that they're convinced that he's the guy to do it. 487 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 9: Maybe they also like Jayden Daniels or Drake May, but 488 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 9: you know, I don't know. 489 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't do it either, just for 490 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: the record, but like, I don't rule anything out. 491 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 11: Now. 492 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: You kind of have to pick what you want to 493 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: what you don't want to get this year. And I mean, 494 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: of course you can take late round shots on guys, 495 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: but you know, I, like I said, with Minnesota's picks, 496 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: it seems like, wow, if you had those two picks 497 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 3: and you weren't worried about a quarterback, you could hit 498 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: it out of the park with a tackle and a 499 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: receiver that are exactly what the Patriots kind of need. 500 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: So right now I'm of the mind of and I'm 501 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: kind of like souring a little bit on Jadene Daniels, 502 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, if May's there, take them, if not, 503 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: trade down, try to fill those other needs. And like, honestly, 504 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: I'm almost at a point now where I'd rather just 505 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: roll with Jacobe Prissette for a season than have to like, well, 506 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: Spencer Ratler's waiting in the wings behind, you know, like 507 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: like that kind of conversation which just feels forced. Don't 508 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: force it, you know, put the pieces in place, and 509 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: when you have a first round pick, take a swing 510 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: on a big time talented guy that if it hits, 511 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: you're going to be great. 512 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 6: What if it goes unlike what we think because we 513 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 6: all kind of think it's going to be Daniels, it 514 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 6: too right, and it'll be May. But what if it 515 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 6: goes the other way? 516 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: What if May goes to That's what I'm That's what 517 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: I mean. That's why I'm almost to the point right now. 518 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: Like I mean, I think a couple of weeks ago, 519 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: I was saying, just take which one's there, and I 520 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm just I'm worried about Daniels. I'm worried 521 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: about Daniels because exactly just because of that. 522 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 6: No, I mean, I like them both. I like May more, 523 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 6: but I like them both. And I've sort of been 524 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 6: talked to into a little bit more with Daniels, but 525 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 6: I don't understand, Like, so you're saying, like you don't 526 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 6: want to do it with Daniels, which I'm not saying. 527 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 6: I don't understand why you don't like Daniels, because. 528 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: I do still get that now, I do still like it, 529 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: but I just so you know, like you. 530 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 6: Don't want to be locked into this Spencer Spencer Rattler, 531 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 6: then like, well, if you don't take someone at three, 532 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 6: you're locked into one of those. 533 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And I don't really like any of those, 534 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: and so it's hard. 535 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 10: I think Bo Nicks is fine, maybe in the a 536 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 10: little bit higher than the Spencer Rattler, like a little 537 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 10: bit more potential than that, but you know, he's at 538 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 10: best in Alex Smith, you know, maybe a Baker Mayfield 539 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 10: if you really want to get and. 540 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: The other guys that you take at that spot maybe 541 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: in the late first early second, like you would run 542 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: to lock a guy down, like you know what, we're 543 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: gonna plug a guy in there, and instead of rolling 544 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: the dice on bow Nicks, and you know, then we're 545 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: going to spend the next you know, first three months 546 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: of the season talking about bow Knicks being behind Jacoby 547 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: Brissatt and you know what's going on behind the scenes, 548 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: and when's Bo gonna get his chance? 549 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 6: And Mike he obviously blows. 550 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 10: I would say if you draft a guy like bow Knicks, 551 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 10: then I think he'll play early because he's twenty four already. 552 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: He's been to college for six years. 553 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: So it's just like he's twenty four, he's about thirty. 554 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 6: It's not even about like you gotta get them on 555 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 6: the field because he's getting old. It's more just like 556 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: he's probably ready right at that age. You know he's playing. 557 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: He's close to being what he's going to be, is 558 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: he is. 559 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 6: That's the biggest thing. 560 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: That's what Daniels a little bit too. 561 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 10: That's the biggest thing I think that's changed my mind 562 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 10: about it all is when you really think about it, 563 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 10: what would Drake may be in two or three years 564 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 10: if he stayed in college football for another two or 565 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 10: three years like. 566 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: These guys and then play with two first or J. J. 567 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 10: McCarthy like to give him credit to you know, he's 568 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 10: also twenty twenty one years old. These other guys like 569 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 10: you have to think that Daniels and Knicks, Pennix, like 570 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 10: those guys are out there are coming up to their ceilings. 571 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 10: Like I don't think physically they're going to get much bigger, stronger, 572 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 10: faster at twenty four to twenty five years old than 573 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 10: they already are like I know, we always go back 574 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 10: to Brady, but it's it's one of one. Like Brady 575 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 10: reinvented himself. That's not easy to do, you know. I 576 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 10: think these most of these guys are are what they 577 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 10: are by that point of their life. 578 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: And you were and you were watching them play last 579 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: season with all that experience, like at the height of 580 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: their powers as far as college football. So I mean 581 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: that's you know, it's I. 582 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: Get him into the pro program program, you know. 583 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 10: I think Daniels Daniels, I know, there's a lot of 584 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 10: questions about his frame and like he's like, you know, 585 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 10: he's two hundred and ten pounds. But looking at him 586 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 10: a little bit up close, I thought that he looks 587 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 10: like an athlete though, Like it's not like he's Taekwon 588 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 10: thorin where he's got you know, skin and bones, Like 589 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 10: he looks like. 590 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: He's working out the PA. 591 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 10: We'll see he looks. He looks like an athlete, you know, 592 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 10: maybe more like an NBA player than a football player, 593 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 10: but like there's there's an athletic frame there. It's I 594 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 10: don't think that he's quite as fragile just because of 595 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 10: he weighs a certain amount that I thought initially. 596 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: The thing I kind of feel like it is hard 597 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: with him that just is in the back of my 598 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: mind is and I mean this like to respect Lamar Jackson, 599 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: who's really he's always had that amazing running ability, but 600 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: he's you know, been able to kind of settle into 601 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: an offense. And I think it's it's just hard for 602 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: those kind of players to not go to the well, 603 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: you know, like and it's it's if it's not going right, 604 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: you're like, screw it, I'm just running. And you know, 605 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: when you have that kind of to fall back on, 606 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: can you ever? You know, and that Lamar has, but 607 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: can another player do it? 608 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 6: And that's me that's when Justin Fields's problem. I think 609 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 6: when he's at his best, he's saying, screw it, it's 610 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 6: not there. I'm just gonna run. But he hasn't proven 611 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 6: that he can do it the conventional way. 612 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the one thing you can give Jaden 613 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 10: Daniels over Lamar as a prospect is I think Jayden 614 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 10: Daniels is a little bit further along with his mechanics 615 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 10: and his throwing ability. 616 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 6: Then then Lamar. 617 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 10: Lamar had some issues, you know, coming out in terms 618 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 10: of he definitely. 619 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 620 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 10: You know, Lamar had had footwork issues. His release was funk. 621 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 10: He's kind of had that shot put type of release. 622 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 10: It's that they had to fix. 623 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: You know. 624 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 10: So Jaden Daniels throws a really smooth, fluid throwing motion. 625 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: You know it really let me Lamar's latrell. 626 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: Let's just say. You know, you've got McCarthy is the fourth. 627 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: Who's the fifth? Penix? 628 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: Probably? All right? 629 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 9: So those top five guys, are they all better than 630 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 9: what Tua was coming out of college? 631 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 6: All of them? 632 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 633 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: Okay, where do you draw the line? 634 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: Like? 635 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: Who was Tua better than of the top five? 636 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 10: All of them except Caleb Williams. 637 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: Then then we're we're what are we doing? 638 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: That's giving up? 639 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: Was fine? No better? 640 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 10: You're looking at tas as in what he's become on 641 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 10: the Miami Dolphins. Tua when he was entering in the 642 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 10: draft was a fantastic prospect, like one of the best 643 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 10: of this. 644 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: But what we know of him now he was Forget 645 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: about what prospects. 646 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 10: But that's a different conversation. 647 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 9: No, I'm just saying, like what he you know, what 648 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 9: I'm saying like not what he was in envisioned. 649 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 6: So you're saying what he became, what he became like, 650 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 6: but how can you say what these guys are going 651 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 6: to become in. 652 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: The No, you don't know. 653 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 9: But I'm just saying, like what you think now, like 654 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 9: what he Tua is? Can these guys be as good 655 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 9: as he was or as Tua better than these guys? 656 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 10: I think that all three of the eyes that we 657 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 10: talked about at the top have the potential to be 658 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 10: better than t in the NFL. You know, to what 659 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 10: he became, you know, to had the hill injury, and that's. 660 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: That's what I want to get to. 661 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I personally would be thrilled if the guy they 662 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: took turns out to be to I mean, I guess 663 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 6: I'm on an Isoway. No, I'm I'd be very happy. 664 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: I mean, would it be a home run like best ever? No, 665 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 6: but I'd be very happy if he turns out to 666 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: be a league leading passer. 667 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 9: Can he be a league leading passer without waddle and 668 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 9: hill and all that? 669 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know who. I've never seen him 670 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 6: play with it. 671 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: He did see him play without and he. 672 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 6: Was really good from the day he's he's one game 673 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 6: since he's been in the league. I don't know, but 674 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: you want me to look it up for you. 675 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 3: We haven't beaten him yet, Well we haven't. 676 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: Well, he won games, that doesn't mean that he was 677 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 6: the reason that they won. Yeah, I mean, obviously when 678 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 6: the day, he's better today than the day he first 679 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 6: threw a pass. Agreed, just like Joe Burrow is better 680 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 6: today than when he first came in the lake. But 681 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 6: I saw Joe Burrow play without Jamar Chase. He was good. 682 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, because Tua went what but he was drafted, he 683 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 9: was fifth, fifth overall, fifth overall, but in terms of quarterbacks, second, 684 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 9: he was the second quarterback. 685 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 10: If he doesn't but if he doesn't get hurt, he 686 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 10: doesn't have the h probably would. I mean he was 687 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 10: going into that season for sure, and then he got hurt. 688 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: So that's fair. 689 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. Now where I would say, and I agree with 690 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 6: everything you evn't said about the prospect thing. The thing 691 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 6: that was the game changer for him is I thought 692 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 6: he was a generational talent with everything. Clearly he's either 693 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 6: a lost some mobility in athleticism or be been told 694 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 6: you can't play like that at this level. Yeah, because 695 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 6: now he's just really a pocket passer with some mobility. 696 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 10: But not much when he was in his peak Alabama 697 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 10: years to it could move like a scrambling I just. 698 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 9: Get worried, with the exception of Williams, that were overrating 699 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 9: these quarterbacks this year. 700 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: I mean, that's fair. There's always a risk, and I mean, 701 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: and that's like, let's face it, one or two of 702 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 3: these guys will end up actually being good NFL quarterbacks, right, 703 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: that's just the numbers of it. But I think the 704 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: point I've just gotten to now is that may has 705 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: kind of all the pieces. You know, he's not perfect, 706 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: but he's the one that, you know, outside of Kayleb Williams, 707 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: that's the only one I really like. Cove it. The 708 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: other ones, I'll take it if you give I mean, 709 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: J J. McCarthy, I'll take it if you give them 710 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: to me. Jayde Down's take it if you give it 711 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: to me. But after that, it just gets it gets dicey. 712 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: And I'd rather use an early second round pick on 713 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: a guy that, like one of these receivers who it's like, geez, 714 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: this is going to be an impact player immediately, and 715 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: you know, other than while we're rolling dice on Bonix. 716 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes. But you know, might be. 717 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 6: Cop back to Freddy's thing when we were talking about 718 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 6: Kayleb Williams with Chicago and what were you doing? The 719 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 6: reason why, personally, I wouldn't even entertain it if I 720 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 6: were Chicago's because if I help ent on taking a quarterback, 721 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 6: I want my pick of the litter, and if it's 722 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 6: you know, if I'm going to trade down, you can't 723 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 6: tell me that you're trading down because you're pulling like 724 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: a Celtics, which is like the only example I can 725 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 6: even think of that with this kind of mentality was 726 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 6: working with Jason Tatum and they nailed it. They liked 727 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 6: Tatum the best in that draft, and they were able 728 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 6: to finagle their way into more assets while still getting 729 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 6: the guy they thought was far and away the best 730 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 6: player in the draft. They were and they were right, 731 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 6: Like that doesn't happen very often. No, you know, like 732 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 6: the idea of Chicago saying no, no, no, I know, I 733 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 6: have the number one overall pick, but instead of taking 734 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, I'm going to take Drake may Well. Then 735 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 6: just take Drake may Like, why are you going to 736 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 6: roll the dice that the guy that you really like 737 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: is going to be available? When you want to take them. 738 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 6: And I would say the same thing to a much different, 739 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: much broader extent to what you're talking about, Mike with 740 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 6: the So if you're at three and you don't love 741 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 6: the guy that's available, and you end up taking Joe 742 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 6: Walt or Harrison or trading down whatever, I am now 743 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 6: no longer really interested in a quarterback. I will take 744 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 6: one if it makes sense, and I think I might. 745 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: But now I'm like, if I want a quarterback in 746 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 6: this draft, yeah, and I don't think the guy I'm 747 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: going to take it eleven is better than the guy 748 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 6: that I had a chance to take at three, Like 749 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 6: why would I want to go down and roll the dice? Like, so, 750 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: I'm not sure I can't. In other words, I can't 751 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 6: be sure that Panics is available at eleven. And if 752 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 6: I like Panics better than May, why not just take 753 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: take Panics? 754 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: Right? 755 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 10: Because I just think that I disagreed, just because I 756 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 10: think you need to keep the pipeline stocked at that position. 757 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 10: I think it's important to have young talent. 758 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 6: That I'm not saying don't take a quarterback. I'm saying 759 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 6: I'm not taking a quarterback with the thought of I 760 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 6: have my quarterback now, and we're going to go back 761 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 6: to what you said about twenty minutes ago about Houston, 762 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: and they didn't do it that way right away. Yeah, Well, first, 763 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 6: when Casarrio first got there, they still had Deshaun Watson. 764 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 6: That's when everything started to bubble. And then Watson said 765 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 6: I'm out, I'm not staying, and they kind of called 766 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 6: his bluff if you remember. And what they did was 767 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 6: they middled it. They said, yeah, he might be, he 768 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 6: might not stay. But what did they do same draft 769 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 6: as the Mac Jones drafts. What did they do Mill? 770 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 6: That's my point in the second round, like you can 771 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: do that, but you don't have your guy. You don't, 772 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 6: It is my point, you don't unless he's Jalen Hurts, 773 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 6: like you know, and like that's the thing is like, 774 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 6: but you knew it was no. A lot of people 775 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 6: thought that Davis Mills could be the guy, just that 776 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 6: they talked themselves into it. People kicked themselves that they 777 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 6: didn't take them at fifteen. 778 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 10: I just think that instead of Mac, if you have 779 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 10: a guy like a Knicks, like a Penix that has 780 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 10: the potential to maybe be that in the league, I 781 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 10: think it's too important of a position to just punt 782 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 10: on it in the draft, and I do not. 783 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: Want to punt on it. I'm just saying, if if 784 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 6: I'm gonna wait, if I want the quarterback to be 785 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 6: my quarterback of the future, I'm taking the best one 786 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 6: I can get the best one on my board. And 787 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 6: I fact, like I said, if I think think Penis 788 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 6: is better than May, I'm taking them that. I don't 789 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 6: think they think that. 790 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 10: I would just say that. You also have to look 791 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 10: ahead to twenty twenty five, and I think totally agree 792 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 10: with that too. In twenty twenty five, Bo Knicks and 793 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 10: Michael Pennix might be the two best quarterbacks in the 794 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 10: class in twenty twenty five. So I think the good 795 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 10: thing about this class with the quarterbacks is that it 796 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 10: is a good quarterback class. So bow Knicks in a 797 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 10: normal year probably gets propped up into that like Kenny 798 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 10: Pickett mac Jones range. But this year there's so many 799 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 10: good quarterbacks at the top that he's gonna go maybe 800 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 10: late first round, early second round. So look at twenty 801 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 10: twenty five and say, do we think bow Knicks is 802 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 10: going to be better than Shador Sanders, than Quinn Yours 803 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 10: or at least on the same playing field. I just 804 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 10: think that it's a too important a position to go 805 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 10: into next year with your quarterback room. As Jacobe were 806 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 10: said in Bailey's Abbey, there's not enough potential in that room. 807 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 6: I don't think it will, but I don't look at 808 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 6: it as really all that different. I think it'll be 809 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 6: those probably those two guys, and you know, one of 810 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 6: these second third round picks. Yeah, like Nil Milton. 811 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 10: See, like Joe Milton to me is now you're you're 812 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 10: going too far. You're too far gone. 813 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 6: I hope it's okay, let's use Rattler instead of instead 814 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 6: of Joe Miltons. I. You know, you have three quarterbacks 815 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 6: on your roster. You don't have a quarterback on your 816 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 6: roster if you ask me. 817 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 818 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 6: But I totally agree with Evans' mentality. I know you 819 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 6: do too, Mike, because we talk about it all the time. 820 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 6: You take a quarterback, yeah, because you don't know when 821 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 6: the next Wilson Prescott, you know it happens. I mean 822 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 6: there are four or five guys out there that were 823 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 6: taken after the first round that are good, so maybe 824 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 6: you can get the next one. Yeah, but I'm gonna 825 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 6: look at my quarterback room. The same way is you know, like, 826 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna look at it as until proved, otherwise I 827 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 6: don't have that. 828 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 9: Hey, Patriots fans, if you want to see Toyota's best offers, 829 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 9: including those not seen on TV, go to buy a 830 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 9: Toyota dot com. It's toyot as official website for deals 831 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 9: from the official vehicle of the New England Patriots, Toyota. 832 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 9: Let's go take a draft pick and you know what 833 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 9: you should. Also, this is a inter or intra department 834 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 9: read this is internal. I just want to read this 835 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 9: for everybody. If you want to support the home team, 836 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 9: join New England's event staff here at Jellette Stadium. Seasonal 837 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 9: positions are available in food and beverage, parking and security. 838 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 9: Come meet us in person at walk in Wednesday every 839 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 9: Wednesday in April from eight thirty am to six thirty 840 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 9: Jellette Stadium, E one entrance. You may get in on 841 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 9: the spot offer to join the team. So we're having 842 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 9: our own little combine this month for events staff. 843 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 6: You are trying to tell me something, No, but if 844 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 6: you're looking at me a lot when you say that, 845 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 6: if I. 846 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 9: Could see you doing parking, those guys are crossing. Yeah, 847 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 9: get out of here. You don't have the right tag. 848 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 6: Don't give the parking your attendants doing the job to sign. 849 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: It's a tough job. 850 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, have to remind myself that doing their job. 851 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 9: But if you if you're in the area and you're 852 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 9: looking for some extra coinage during the season, Yeah, join 853 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 9: the team every every Wednesday in April eight thirty to 854 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 9: six thirty here. 855 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: At Jillette Stadium. 856 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 6: All right, thanks, so all right. 857 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: Let's keep let's keep going here. Uh, let's get. 858 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 6: The listeners involved, Reddy. 859 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, a related uh subject, but a little different. Bill 860 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 9: and Vista, California writes. In last Thursday, the crew mentioned 861 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 9: coach Prime and how he has a short list of 862 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 9: teams for Shador and Hunter to not go to. The 863 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 9: crew talked about how nil is changing the landscape and 864 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 9: giving prospects more power over where they could potentially end 865 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 9: up being drafted. Would that being the case, would it 866 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 9: make more sense to now restructure how the draft works. 867 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 9: Maybe change to a lottery system with picks not being 868 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 9: finalized until the morning of the draft would definitely make 869 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 9: for more entertaining event chaos and all. 870 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Wow, well that's your thing, Fred, You and even up 871 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: for a draft lottery for a while, right, I say, 872 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 3: I say the whole thing though, one to thirty two 873 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: or just like top ten. 874 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: No, just the first round, just first round. 875 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 9: Complete new lottery. Everybody's team is in the hat. First 876 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 9: round is you know, complete random, and then second through 877 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 9: seventh you go back to worse. 878 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: You know, worse is first. 879 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 6: But that's that's been Freddy's sort of dream for a while. 880 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 6: That's that's Freddy's baby, the draft lottery. Yep, how does 881 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 6: that impact that should do a Sanders situation? 882 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: You know? 883 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, that's not sure. The situation that the 884 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 6: nil Yeah they're talking about. Sanders has talked about his 885 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 6: players are going to have a list of teams that 886 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 6: you know, no fly zones, don't draft me because I'm 887 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 6: not signing with you. Right, So what's the difference if 888 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 6: you have a lottery? 889 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: I know that that doesn't. That doesn't. 890 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 9: But let's talk about the whole Like he says, nil 891 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 9: has changed. I get it now, people like your door 892 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 9: have money going into the NFL. 893 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: That whereas in the past. 894 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 6: Wait in other words, they can afford to sit out. 895 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 9: They can afford to sit out and wait until next 896 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 9: year's draft. I guess is that what he means. 897 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's completely changed the landscape for the draft. 898 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 10: The draft is even it's less deep as a result 899 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 10: of n AL because less underclassmen are declaring because they 900 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 10: can just go back to school. There's the transfer portal 901 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 10: and they can just make money that way and then 902 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 10: help their draft stock in the process to go even 903 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 10: earlier the following year. 904 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 9: Uh the but at some point they run out of eligibility, right. 905 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 10: Yes, But I I just think NIL is a disaster, 906 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 10: honestly for college football. 907 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: You wouldn't I think that. 908 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 6: I think Nick Saban. 909 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 10: Got a lot of heat for what he said because 910 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 10: he's an old head and oh you know, it's he's 911 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 10: mad that it's not the way that it used to 912 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 10: be where he could just like build these super teams. 913 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 10: I think that it's it's bad for the sport that 914 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 10: these kids can just jump ship and go to a 915 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 10: different place in the transfer portal. 916 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's different that those are two different things. 917 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 10: But it all goes hand in hand because they are 918 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 10: going in a lot of times to the highest bidder 919 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 10: that's giving them the most NIL money, and that's why 920 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 10: they're going into the portals. Because they're at a smaller school, 921 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 10: and now they're. 922 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 9: Exactly But the transfer portal could exist without ni L's right, Yeah, well, 923 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 9: but I like the transfer portal. I think to give 924 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 9: these players options, like why do you like? You get 925 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 9: on a team, they give you the boat and you 926 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 9: don't get to play. I want to play. 927 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: I want to go to a team where I can play. 928 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 10: But these aren't people that aren't playing. 929 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 6: These are transfer A portal isn't about giving teams up 930 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 6: kids opportunity to play somewhere with they're not playing. 931 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: Some of them are. 932 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 6: The vast majority of them are doing exactly what evan 933 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 6: since to the highest. 934 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 10: This is turning into au well where like now and 935 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 10: now every single draft product, no Ni L. 936 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 6: I think portal wouldn't be as prevalent as it is. 937 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 6: It still be big, but it wouldn't be anywhere near 938 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 6: like it is. 939 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 11: Not. 940 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 6: No, it is if every one of these teams loses 941 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 6: the vast majority. 942 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 2: Of this, I just don't want to luve. 943 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 9: I know they're related, but I don't want to lumpy 944 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 9: Nils with transfer portals because I think transfer portal on 945 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 9: its own, I think is a good thing. 946 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 6: I think it's horrible. I think it's completely ruined because 947 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 6: of nil. No, because of the prevalence of transferring. But 948 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 6: you should have there should be like a consequence. 949 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 9: I think, let the kid go to a place where 950 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 9: he wants to go. 951 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 6: Correct case by case basis. So the five people that 952 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 6: do that I have no problem with. When you're losing 953 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 6: ten of your twenty two starters to the portal, but 954 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 6: that but that's a problem. 955 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 2: But right now that's happening because of nil. 956 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 6: But what I'm telling you is it's happened in basketball 957 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 6: for a while. Yeah, well they had nothing to do 958 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 6: with nil. Kid's playing like forty minutes a game for 959 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 6: one power five school, just transfer to another power five 960 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 6: school like all the time. But why all different reasons? 961 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 3: What happened Now? 962 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 6: I guess that exist anymore. It's now above board and 963 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 6: everybody knows it's money. My guess is it's always been 964 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 6: about money. 965 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, under the table. 966 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 10: I just think that what it What Saban said I 967 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 10: thought was so spot on. And the fact that all 968 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 10: these kids just go to Nick Saban now before he 969 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 10: retired obviously, and say what are you gonna do for me? 970 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 10: Like why should I stay at Alabama? Like what are 971 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 10: you going to pay me what a shirt? Like, are 972 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 10: you gonna am I gonna start next year? Are you 973 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 10: gonna promise me that? Because you know us C, you know, 974 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 10: Lincoln Riley just called and he said he's gonna give 975 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 10: me a mill and I'm gonna start, and like that, 976 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 10: that's not what it's all about, you know. And and 977 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 10: then you also get into this problem where these guys 978 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 10: are transferring and it's au they're just like creating these 979 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 10: super teams you know where all and it's just so 980 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 10: I don't think that's good for the transfer. 981 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 9: You just said that before In the old system, Nick 982 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 9: Saban was creating the super team. 983 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 10: But he had to at least recruit the players to 984 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 10: the team and develop them as freshmen up until the point. 985 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: Where they were And how was that them? 986 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 6: Maybe it was money, But I'm just see my guest, 987 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 6: like I just think it's I go a little bit halfway, 988 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 6: not as far as Evan and certainly not like not 989 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 6: whatever you are, Let them go wherever they want. Let 990 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 6: there be anarchy everywhere. I'm a little bit in the middle. Yeah, sure, 991 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 6: transfer like once these guys can transfer like indiscriminately. These 992 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 6: guys that play for three and four teams in four years, 993 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 6: Like there's a problem with that. They don't ever have 994 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 6: to there's no repercussions, no ramifications at all. They just 995 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 6: go wherever they want. But it is to me, it's 996 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 6: about money. No one like begrudges the kid's ability. All Right. 997 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 6: I got recruited by Florida State as a quarterback and 998 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 6: I go through and this guy who's the same class 999 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 6: as me beat me out. I don't think anybody would 1000 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 6: say that kid should have to stay there and carry 1001 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 6: the clipboard for four year hours. No one would say that. 1002 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 6: I certainly wouldn't say that. But the problem is, like 1003 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 6: what Evan's talking about, it's like they don't need the 1004 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 6: coach to open up doors for them anymore because they're 1005 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 6: making so much. So it's getting worse. So it's the 1006 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 6: combination of the two that is getting well. 1007 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: I do believe when it comes to the n I L. 1008 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to do something about that. 1009 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 10: They're gonna have to police it a little bit more. 1010 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 10: That's all I'm saying, because it basically is like their 1011 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 10: free agents. 1012 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 6: Every single they're kind of they're kind of like giving up, 1013 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 6: like they they lost another lawsuit and they said, but 1014 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 6: we're not gonna fight this anymore. 1015 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 10: I'm not asking them to don't know what they're gonna 1016 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 10: ban it or something like that. I'm just asking there 1017 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 10: needs to be. 1018 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 6: Needs to be struct Why can't they get paid like 1019 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 6: a uniform number like around the country, like so there's 1020 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 6: not any growth, right? 1021 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 10: Or what about like contracts? Like what if you're gonna 1022 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 10: if you're gonna let them they. 1023 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 6: Sign contracts, But but. 1024 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 10: Are they signing contracts with the school? Some of them do, 1025 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 10: like you're gonna be here for two years, Like and 1026 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 10: I signed you know. 1027 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 6: Now everybody says, like my lawyer guys and my friends 1028 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 6: and stuff that know a lot more about the business 1029 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 6: world than I do. They say, yeah, a lot of 1030 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 6: them signed contracts, but they you know, they just buy 1031 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 6: themselves out of them and they just go. 1032 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 9: It's it's interesting there when it comes to the NDA 1033 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 9: have to do something, it is getting out. 1034 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 6: So I'm not saying that they should never be allowed 1035 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 6: to transfer for it. I just think that the transferring 1036 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 6: was already out of control before NIL. Now it's uh 1037 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 6: now the NIL has made it completely. 1038 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 3: But when did they get rid of having to sit 1039 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: out a year with transfer during COVID, so they just 1040 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 3: abolish that, or. 1041 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 6: I think it might have been a little before that, 1042 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 6: But yeah, a lot of times. 1043 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: See I think that's unfair too. 1044 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 6: No, I don't. 1045 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 10: I don't think you have to you should have to 1046 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 10: sit out a year. My whole thing is just again 1047 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 10: is that I just feel like it sets a bad 1048 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 10: precedent of like, we're just going to keep jumping ship 1049 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 10: until I find this the most money with the great 1050 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 10: situation and the superstar receivers around me. And then we 1051 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 10: got into this situation where we're sitting here talking about 1052 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 10: the draft and Jaden Daniels is playing on an all 1053 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 10: Star team and Michael Pennix is playing on an All 1054 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 10: Star team, and you know, bo Nicks was horrible at Auburn, 1055 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 10: like not even a draftable prospect, and he goes to 1056 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 10: Oregon and now he's a first round pick and it's. 1057 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 6: Like, good for him. 1058 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 10: You know he's been they've been in college for six years. 1059 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 10: They're all twenty five years old. 1060 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 6: That's that's a COVID problem. I'm not going to blame 1061 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 6: the NCAA on because I guess ultimately I am blaming 1062 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 6: them because I thought it was a foolish decision that 1063 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 6: they gave everybody. 1064 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: Here we are twenty twenty four and there's still guys. 1065 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 6: You know, it really only affected the spring sports one year, 1066 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 6: and they allowed everybody to have an extra year of eligibility, 1067 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 6: and it really destroyed recruiting classes. And it's gonna be 1068 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 6: in charge. 1069 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 9: I wonder what Charlie Baker is gonna do, because you know, 1070 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 9: he's now the head of the n c DOUBLEA. 1071 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 6: I like him a lot, and I don't think that 1072 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 6: he's an empty suit. I just don't think. I think 1073 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 6: he's powerless. I don't think he's going to be able 1074 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 6: to do anything. 1075 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, sew the hockey transfers to the same thing. I mean, 1076 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 3: it's just entered the portal as soon as the NCAA 1077 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: tournament is. 1078 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 10: There's guys, there's guys in the tournament that are already 1079 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 10: in the portal that their teams are still alive in 1080 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 10: the NCAA tournament and they're already in the portal. 1081 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 9: Let's see Ford and Savannah, Georgia says, please know the 1082 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 9: bow knicks. Yeah, we just traded him to Jacksonville for 1083 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 9: a six round pick. Maxed out college quarterback who bolstered 1084 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 9: accuracy stats and won't be the reason that you in 1085 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 9: on Sundays. The strange knock I've heard on Penix, which 1086 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 9: I don't understand, is he's a great choice if you 1087 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 9: want to sit back and watch someone throw the ball. Yes, 1088 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 9: that is exactly what I want to do, sit back 1089 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 9: and watch my quarterback throw the ball beautifully. 1090 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 10: I don't know understand that piece, but I understand the 1091 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 10: Bonnicks piece. Like if you think that Bonnicks, you know, 1092 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 10: I always people always describe as it's boring, Like watching 1093 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 10: him play is boring because you know, he just kind 1094 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 10: of does what he's asked to do and there's no 1095 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 10: extra flavor to it. There's no you know, Drake may 1096 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 10: running around off platform like that. He's just gonna make 1097 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 10: the throws that are available to him. 1098 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 6: But that's that Penix too, Like Penix is just gonna 1099 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 6: sit in the pocket and yeah he's gonna Now against Texas, 1100 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 6: he's gonna throw it down the field. Yeah, and you 1101 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 6: ask him, you do what Michigan did to him, and 1102 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 6: I think you're rendered him powerless. 1103 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, Penix definitely has the down the deep ball and 1104 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 10: the big time throws down the field. Bone Nicks, that's 1105 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 10: not his game, Bonix is like accuracy within fifteen yards 1106 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 10: of the line of scrimmage, get it out on time, 1107 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 10: to be able to like. 1108 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 6: You know that that's some of my worry with McCarthy 1109 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 6: and and I know that Evan said he was less 1110 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 6: concerned about the unknown. I am more concerned with that 1111 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 6: part of it because on the rare occasions when he's 1112 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 6: sort of been pressed, I don't think he's looked all 1113 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 6: that good. And I think of like the TCU game 1114 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 6: in the playoffs two years ago, we threw a couple 1115 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 6: of pick sixes. And I think of the Alabama game 1116 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 6: that he won this year. It was, by the way, 1117 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 6: a very average Alabama team for their standards. Yeah, he 1118 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 6: comes out and throws a pick on the first play 1119 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 6: of the game that could overturned by a blade of grass. 1120 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 6: And I just didn't think he looked really good in 1121 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 6: that game. Now, did he make plays in that game 1122 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 6: that helped him win? Yeah, he did. He rebound, he 1123 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 6: rebounded from that bad start. I thought made a couple 1124 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 6: of plays. I didn't think he was great in the 1125 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 6: Washington game. I thought the Washington game, the way the 1126 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 6: Washington the way the Michigan defense played Panix that game 1127 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 6: I thought should have been a blowout. I thought that 1128 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 6: a good quarterback would have bradied that game and put it. 1129 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 6: It would have been over in the middle of the 1130 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 6: second quarter. Now I'm not don't make that take that literally, 1131 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 6: not comparing JJ McCarthy saying he should be like Brady. 1132 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 6: I thought Berks did. So I'm saying that kind of mentality, 1133 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 6: like we're dominating this game. We're far superior on the field. 1134 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 6: We should have a three touchdown lead right now. And 1135 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 6: they didn't like that game kind of stayed closer than 1136 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 6: it should have been, I thought throughout, and it was, 1137 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 6: in my opinion, because the offense couldn't make plays. 1138 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, the interception on the first play against Alabama, I 1139 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 10: have not been able to get that out of my head. 1140 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 10: It was the first game I watched of JJ McCarthy 1141 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 10: and is the first play I watched of him, and 1142 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 10: he just throws it god awful interception, Like. 1143 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 6: Just that was a bad play. 1144 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 2: I don't even know what he was looking at me. 1145 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 10: I'm killing you that too, and I just since then, 1146 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 10: I just that's the type of guy that you're signing 1147 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 10: up for, is a you know, biggest game of his life. 1148 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 10: And he's throws into a team meeting and it's just intercepted, Like, yeah, 1149 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 10: first played. 1150 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 6: That TCU game in the playoffs. I think they ended 1151 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 6: up losing that game something like fifty one to forty five. 1152 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 6: So it's not like he like tucktail and hid because 1153 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 6: he played a bad game. He he bounced back, but 1154 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 6: I think you know the reason they lost was him ultimately. 1155 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 2: Uh spiking Fresno. 1156 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 9: Paul and Evan had a little dust up over Jacoby 1157 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 9: Brissett a few shows back, so I came up with 1158 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 9: several Brissett related wagers they could go head to head on. 1159 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 9: Each has mildly humiliating terms for the loser. In all cases, 1160 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 9: the closest guess without going over wins. If you go over, 1161 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 9: you both lose one. How many games will Brissett start 1162 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 9: this season? Loser has to eat a subway six inch 1163 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 9: engineered by the pew listeners live on the show. 1164 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 6: Of course, we're not allowed to do this, so I 1165 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 6: can't partake. 1166 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 9: Sure you're partaking in that you could, So how many 1167 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 9: games will Brissett start this season? 1168 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 6: I have no idea. Okay, I'm say twelve. 1169 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 3: You're just not gonna play twelve I was gonna say five. 1170 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 6: I'm gonna think twelve. Why we don't even know where 1171 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 6: the bye week is. See, that's that's part of it though, 1172 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 6: I need to know. I say four, you gotta take 1173 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 6: him out of the bye week? Yeah, by week's like 1174 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 6: week seven spot you guys, I. 1175 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 3: Know, Well it's a weird point like because it's I 1176 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 3: see what Paul is saying, like you're really not playing 1177 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 3: the You're going to get Drake. 1178 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 6: And I don't think Drake is going to be ready? 1179 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 9: H what will brissets QB rating B In the first 1180 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 9: game he plays this season, loser has to go commando 1181 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 9: for the Tuesday show following in the game, out there 1182 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 9: swinging free like. 1183 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 6: I'd rather lose that in the first one. One wants that, 1184 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 6: No one wants it. 1185 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 3: But QB rating for that first game he plays, Jesus 1186 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 3: eighty nine point six one hundred. 1187 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 6: We need like over unders. 1188 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 9: At least you know how many game winning drives will 1189 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 9: beset have By the mid season, mark loser has to 1190 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 9: sing the national anthem live in the show standing with 1191 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 9: hand on hard one. 1192 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 6: I'll say none one as well. 1193 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,439 Speaker 2: By mid season I'd say none. 1194 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 6: Fred laughs, What happened to you. You don't how optimistic 1195 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 6: he used to be none thirteen, So now he's gonna 1196 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 6: spin it. They're not gonna need any game winning drives. 1197 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 2: They're gonna blow people out. 1198 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 9: Okay, let's see Ryan Rights in Love the Show. He 1199 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 9: says people give Chicago a hard time for not picking 1200 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 9: Mahomes since he's won two Super Bowls. But I'm not 1201 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 9: convinced if Mahomes went to the Bears he would. 1202 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 2: Be who he is today. 1203 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 9: I think he would be a lot worse case. Has 1204 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 9: a good roster and fantastic coach, so it's set him 1205 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 9: up for success. Question is, besides Tom, what players do 1206 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 9: you think would have had a Hall of Fame career 1207 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 9: if they were not in such a positive situation roster, coaching, organization. 1208 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady. Yeah, like 1209 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame careers regardless of whether went you know, 1210 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 6: probably Ben Roethlisberger, Phil Rivers. 1211 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 10: Mahomes is an interesting case though, because he did see 1212 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 10: that sit out the year. 1213 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 6: I'm not saying he wasn't helped by it. 1214 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 10: He was more of a developmental guy. Like obviously I'm 1215 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 10: not going on all the way, but Brady was six 1216 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 10: round picks. I'm not saying, you know, but in terms 1217 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 10: of the guy's ever drafted that early, I can see 1218 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 10: what he's saying that if he goes to Chicago, their 1219 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 10: weapons are a mess. They're coaching staff's a mess. 1220 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 6: Their weapons anymore a mess than the Kansas cities are 1221 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 6: right now. Yeah, but he's everybody like Dj Moore. 1222 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 10: But he's already at the peak of his powers now, 1223 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 10: Like if you had thrown him into that as a 1224 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 10: rookie and he doesn't already have the knowledge in the 1225 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 10: grasp of the game that he has now. 1226 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 6: I think a lot of Andy Reid, So I think 1227 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 6: that absolutely helped him immensely. 1228 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 10: I can't imagine the behind the scenes of his rookie 1229 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 10: year Andy Reid, after practice, the footwork, drills, all the 1230 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 10: little details. 1231 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 6: I also think he may have inherited the best incumbent 1232 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 6: quarterback for that role that he possibly could have had. Yeah, Alex, 1233 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 6: I think that's what they hope. 1234 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 3: Jacoby Weer said, is Yeah, nice guy Rashid Rice there, Paul, 1235 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 3: what do you got to say about that one? 1236 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 6: I think that establishes that I was right, because that's 1237 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 6: what happens with those kinds of players when they fast. 1238 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 6: So has there been any updates about that? I just 1239 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 6: I read I last thing he was cooperating with police. 1240 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 6: But like, was he there or not? 1241 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. It sounds like they have him on camera, 1242 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,359 Speaker 3: like walking away. 1243 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt he was there. 1244 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 6: I didn't see that. 1245 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have him on camera. 1246 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 6: I saw a camera from about nine miles away with 1247 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 6: like a couple of people walking away. I don't know 1248 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 6: who they were. They I wouldn't know, she writes if 1249 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 6: he was sitting next to it. I love him though, Yeah, 1250 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 6: I just he looked good on tape. Sorry, didn't it 1251 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,439 Speaker 6: didn't mean to identify a good player on the draft, 1252 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 6: look good on why? This is why I don't do it. 1253 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 6: Film taper, film, just why I don't do it. The 1254 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 6: digital YouTube pilot, I get it, I get them right, 1255 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 6: And this is what happens. 1256 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 3: Then called the ditch, like the digital video PA breaking 1257 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 3: down the ditch. You're not breaking out filming. 1258 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 10: You get that, you get that a lot. What do 1259 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 10: you just watch YouTube highlights of these guys and then 1260 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 10: you rank them? 1261 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 6: Ye yep. 1262 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 9: I think the first sentence is going to rule out 1263 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 9: this next email. But Kyler from Connecticut says, I know 1264 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 9: it's a long shot, but rumors around the league are 1265 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 9: talking about the possibility of JJ McCarthy reuniting with coach 1266 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 9: Harbaugh in LA. 1267 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 2: Is that even a possibility? 1268 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 10: I will say, as much as I was thinking about 1269 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 10: this the other day, is there a chance that all 1270 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 10: this JJ McCarthy's going second overall? All this JJ McCarthy 1271 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 10: going third overall, who's sitting there at number five then 1272 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 10: doesn't need a quarterback, right Jim Harbaugh? So is there 1273 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,879 Speaker 10: a chance that Jim Harbaugh is putting this all out 1274 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 10: in the world so that the position player, the non 1275 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 10: quarterback that he wants at five, is still sitting there 1276 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 10: on a silver platter because four quarterbacks go ahead of them. 1277 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 6: Yes, I think that that, like that smokescreen, better than 1278 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 6: like the Patriots aren't going to the Pro day for 1279 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 6: Michael Pennix because they want to take him at thirty four. 1280 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 6: I want that makes perfect sense, right because now you know, oh, 1281 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 6: Arizona's going to trade out of their pick because Minnesota 1282 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 6: is going to trade into it, and you know, right, 1283 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 6: and now all of a sudden jolt is just on 1284 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 6: a silver platter the quarterbacks. Yeah, right, But I have 1285 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,760 Speaker 6: heard a lot about the Harbaugh thing and what they trade. Herbert, 1286 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 6: you can go with McCarthy. I mean, I don't see 1287 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 6: why you would do that. 1288 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't imagine. I can't imagine it. 1289 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 6: I think it would be crazy too, Like legit crazy. 1290 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 6: You have a guy that you know, if you're Jim 1291 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 6: Harbaugh and you watch that guy play, you know you 1292 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 6: can win with them, right, right, you have. 1293 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 9: What's your what's the hole your poking, especially if you're 1294 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 9: like a guy like Harbor like and with me coaching it, right, 1295 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 9: he goes up to another level. 1296 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 3: Throws the ball too good, he's too athletic. 1297 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 6: Unless he's just so stubborn and he's just gonna say, well, 1298 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 6: we're gonna line up two backs in the background, two 1299 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 6: tight ends, we're gonna run. We're going to run the 1300 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 6: football because we want to be tough on both sides. 1301 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,760 Speaker 9: Of the line that Eric and idaho. I was listening 1302 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 9: to Solomon Wilcotts and his guest from the opening drive 1303 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 9: on NFL Network driving to work this morning. They were 1304 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 9: discussing how Drake may is basically a less athletic and 1305 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 9: worse thrower of the ball than Daniel Jones. Obviously, these 1306 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 9: guys have lost their minds with this opinion. But I 1307 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 9: was wondering if you guys actually see any comparisons between 1308 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 9: May and Jones. I just don't see how they can 1309 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 9: come out with that conclusion. 1310 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 6: I do, I do see similarities. I think he's more 1311 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 6: athletic than Daniel Jones. But yeah, I think Daniel Jones 1312 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 6: has proven that ability is not his problem. I think 1313 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 6: he can play, he can run. 1314 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 10: I think he's similar, can play, similar body type as 1315 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 10: Daniel Jones. He's built a little bit like Daniel Jones. 1316 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 10: I think Daniel Jones at Duke was was way more 1317 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 10: conservative then then Drake. Drake May has got way more 1318 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 10: of that gun slinger in him than Daniel Jones. Daniel 1319 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 10: Jones was always Daniel Jones, Alex Smith, you know, just 1320 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 10: like we're you know, I'm athletic. I can throw the 1321 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 10: ball pretty well, but I'm just never going to push it. 1322 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 6: I thought that Daniel Jones was overdrafted. I mocked that pick. 1323 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 6: I remember the night when it happened. 1324 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: Mocked and made fun of him. 1325 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I don't. I don't do mock drafts, 1326 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 6: so I didn't mock him. Going I'm out on mock 1327 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 6: drafts too, but good for you, good for you side well, 1328 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 6: but finished your point? 1329 00:56:59,480 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 2: Did you have this? 1330 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,240 Speaker 6: That's like stunning. 1331 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 9: But if you have to go to mock draft rehab 1332 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 9: to be out on mock drafts. 1333 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 6: Out on mock drafts, that's the best thing I've heard 1334 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 6: saying the show. Ever. 1335 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 10: I think that it stems from the fact that they 1336 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 10: have the third overall picks. So, like, how many different 1337 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 10: scenarios are we really talking about here. It's either a 1338 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 10: Drake may mock draft, it's a Jaden mock draft, or 1339 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 10: it's a trade down mock draft. There's no other mock 1340 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 10: draft to do that. Those are the only. 1341 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 3: Ones, and there's only so many people that can trade 1342 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 3: down with. So you're getting. 1343 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 6: Everyone Minnesota out on mock draft this particular year. Then 1344 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 6: we'll see. But I I just so that big a declaration. 1345 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 3: We're back, baby, We're picking twentieth. 1346 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 10: As I do it more and more, though I not 1347 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 10: just for myself. Just reading them and seeing them, you 1348 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 10: noticed how pointless they really are. No, no one's ever right. 1349 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 10: If you hit like twenty five percent of the first round, 1350 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 10: you did well, oh yeah, and it's so just it's 1351 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 10: what are we doing them for? 1352 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: Clicks? That's it. 1353 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 6: That's it, that's there's nothing. 1354 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, and that's all I did is a content. 1355 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 6: No, but it got a lot of clicks, yeah, I. 1356 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 3: Mean when they weren't a lot of like just soul 1357 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 3: team mock drafts. I remember, but I you know, it's 1358 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 3: like you click on, you scroll down, you hear they 1359 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 3: got h all right, you know you look at your team. 1360 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 10: I get it, trust me, I get it. 1361 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 9: You know, but if you don't really know what's going on, 1362 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 9: like if you're a real you know, neophyte and all, 1363 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,439 Speaker 9: this thing, looking at mock drafts gives you a good 1364 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 9: idea of who are the top rated guys? 1365 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: You know. 1366 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that that's the only so that's the 1367 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 10: only value that they truly have. Is Okay, I have 1368 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 10: picked fifteen, who are the five guys that everybody's saying 1369 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 10: is going to be in our range? 1370 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 2: You know? 1371 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 10: So I can have ten guys that I'm looking at. Yeah, 1372 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 10: that sort of thing. But we just were doing them 1373 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 10: on video and stuff like that. Deuce and I and 1374 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 10: we only did a couple this year because it's just 1375 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 10: how many different scenarios could you possibly come up? With 1376 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 10: there's not there's three. I just let them out. 1377 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 6: That's it. 1378 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 9: Chris writes in he's from Cofax, California. Can someone tell 1379 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 9: me anything good about JJ McCarthy. I personally think he 1380 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,959 Speaker 9: will be waiting tables at the local waffle house within 1381 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 9: three years. He's a passenger along for the ride at 1382 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 9: a position where you're supposed to be driving the bus. 1383 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 9: I see a faster mac Jones and really hope the 1384 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 9: idea of taking him in New England is a smoke screen. 1385 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 9: I fully support taking whichever is there between May or Daniels. 1386 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 9: They are worth worth missing on. I don't think he 1387 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 9: wrote that right. 1388 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: McCarthy is not. 1389 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 9: You take McCarthy at three or otherwise, and you're looking 1390 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 9: at taking a quarterback within two seasons. That being said, 1391 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 9: they take him, I'm sure I'll talk myself into him, 1392 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 9: because I'm an idiot. 1393 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 3: No, I think he was right. I mean that's something 1394 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 3: I've been saying. They're worth missing on. I just think 1395 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: you know you're not gonna feel bad if you take 1396 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 3: Drake May and he can't put it all together. He's 1397 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 3: got all the skills, he's you know, you can at 1398 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 3: least talk yourself into that. He can compete with the 1399 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 3: big dogs in the NFL, where even with someone like Mac, 1400 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 3: I never felt like I could. You know, if you 1401 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 3: have the right pieces around him, they'll compete with those teams. 1402 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 3: But I never thought that he could go toe to 1403 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 3: toe with guys. 1404 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think JJ McCarthy plays anything like Mac Jones. 1405 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 10: Like I get the National Championship thing and the big 1406 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 10: time program, but I think the positives for JJ McCarthy 1407 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 10: are he does have plus arm, you know, he does. 1408 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 10: He can put the ball, you know, velocity wise, he 1409 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 10: can throw the ball pretty well. And he's got some mobility. 1410 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 10: He's not a statue, you know, he's got some tough 1411 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 10: he's got some mobility to get outside the pocket, make 1412 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 10: some plays happen, you know, pull some things out of 1413 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 10: his hat. You know against Alabama, they were in that 1414 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 10: that double pass and he catches it one handed and 1415 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 10: then turls around and throws a dime through Roman Wilson, 1416 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 10: like on the money. You know, he's got some of 1417 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 10: that ability to make plays that Mac Jones didn't have, 1418 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 10: But his consistency is nowhere near as good as what 1419 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 10: Max was at all. 1420 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 6: I agree. I've seen some things about him, you know, 1421 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 6: but from him that I know why people are talking 1422 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 6: themselves into him. I definitely see a skill set. 1423 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 10: The league really likes his very consistent release, like good 1424 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 10: consistent platform with his feet, quick release, you know, tight released, 1425 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 10: with his his arm angles and stuff like that. You know, 1426 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 10: they look at him as a as a pretty mechanically 1427 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 10: sound thrower as well. 1428 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 9: Let's see, writ sin he goes. Mike, thanks for nerding 1429 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 9: out a bit last week and sharing your thoughts on 1430 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 9: the book to pack away. I wanted to check it 1431 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 9: out myself, but I saw it was three hundred and 1432 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 9: ninety nine dollars on Amazon. Please tell me you didn't 1433 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 9: pay fook? Why is it? 1434 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 3: I got it for about six bucks. It's on either 1435 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 3: on eBay. 1436 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Or maybe it was assigned edition by you know. 1437 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 3: No that I mean, that's like Bill Walsh book numbers 1438 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 3: like that book is impossible, but there's plenty of cheap 1439 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 3: ones out there anyway. 1440 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 9: I decided to get Mike Lombardi's book, Rid Iron Genius instead, 1441 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 9: and it's been a good read so far. Question for 1442 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 9: all of you, what football based books do you recommend 1443 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 9: for all fans of the sport or Patriots fans to read? 1444 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 9: Can be strategy based, biography, et cetera. 1445 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 3: Actually just it kind of like googled like best football books, 1446 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 3: because I reading this one, it just made me want 1447 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 3: to read a little bit more football history. But I 1448 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 3: always think the Harberstam book on Belichick was a good one. 1449 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 9: I'll take Your Eyes Off the Ball by Pat Kerwin 1450 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 9: is good if you kind of want to learn a 1451 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 9: little bit basic strategy, you know, like you know that 1452 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 9: type of stuff. Trying to think of like good football 1453 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 9: books that ever, I never read that book. 1454 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 3: I took it out from like that La library. I 1455 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 3: had to go to like the downtown library in LA 1456 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 3: to get it. It's really hard to find. It's out 1457 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 3: of print. 1458 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 9: When I was a kid, I read like Jim Bouten 1459 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 9: Ball four, and I read the Connie Hawkins book Foul 1460 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 9: I think it was called. 1461 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 6: Those are like biography type books. See, I like those. 1462 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 6: I don't have any interest in these other ones. 1463 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 2: That like dry like yeah you learn stuff? 1464 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 6: No, Well, I mean, if like I understand what he's 1465 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 6: he's looking for something, because he's he's looking for a 1466 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 6: book that's going to help him learn the game a 1467 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 6: little bit, and then you gave him suggestions. I would say, 1468 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 6: take your eye off the ball is the best. 1469 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got that one. 1470 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 6: I don't have any interest in taking my eye off 1471 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 6: the ball. I have a son who I told you 1472 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 6: is an offensive lineman, and I do not take my 1473 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 6: eye off the ball, and you don't even watch him. 1474 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Was a couple ones, a couple ones they put on 1475 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 3: my on my list, and I haven't read these yet, 1476 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 3: but these are on my to read North Dallas forty 1477 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,439 Speaker 3: when pride still mattered, and then I loved with Friday Night. 1478 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 6: Lights, North Dallas. That's again fiction. 1479 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's true, that's fiction. Oh no, it's it's real. 1480 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 6: Friday Night Lights is not fiction. Hollywood. 1481 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 10: The book, the book that I'm pretty sure that there's 1482 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 10: some exaggeration there. 1483 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 6: I don't think so. I mean, maybe it might be 1484 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 6: the right path and everything that they went on, but 1485 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 6: I thought they spent a lot of time with that program. 1486 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 2: May like right, Yeah, that author. 1487 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 6: I've heard what's Petersburg and that's the film. Couldn't think 1488 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 6: is the directors guy? Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I 1489 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 6: don't think that's fiction. Maybe I have no idea. No, 1490 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 6: it's not it's not like the movies, TV show, like 1491 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 6: the TV show is complete fiction. Yeah, but the book 1492 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 6: I think is real. Okobe Miles is a real person. 1493 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 3: One I'd like to get my hands into. Doctor Z 1494 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 3: wrote Thinking Man's Guide to Football, which i've you know, 1495 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 3: was in like the seventies. But that's another one. I 1496 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 3: kind of like Peter King. 1497 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 9: Had a book about like the History of the NFL 1498 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 9: or the History of Pro Football. 1499 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 6: Michael McCambridge writes history NFL history books that I think 1500 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 6: are probably worth reading. That as a as an example, 1501 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 6: if you if you googled Michael, I think it's m 1502 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 6: ac Mick mac cambridge. Okay, he has some stuff I like. 1503 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 6: The biography like North Dallas forty I bet you is 1504 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 6: really good. 1505 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1506 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 6: I never read it, but that that stuff is. 1507 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 2: The movie was funny. 1508 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 3: The movie either. 1509 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the movie is great. 1510 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 3: Somebody put a list to like best football books. 1511 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 6: Every time we say it's a business, you say it's 1512 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 6: just a game. Every time you say it's a game, 1513 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 6: we say it's a business. 1514 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 2: I like that. Okay, here we go. 1515 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1516 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 9: Jasper In Summerville wanted to break up the draft talk 1517 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 9: and ask you a personal question. Is fans let's say, 1518 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 9: the pages for the next twenty five years don't win 1519 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 9: another super Bowl outside of simply being competitive and making 1520 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 9: it to the playoffs, what scenarios or stories would give 1521 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 9: you the most enjoyment as fans of the team. I 1522 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 9: personally just want superstars and continuity. I want to be 1523 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 9: able to follow and enjoy homegrown talent that's elite. 1524 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 3: I like that. I like how we said it. I 1525 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 3: mean that's something I think is a fan that's been 1526 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 3: kind of missing around here is you know, that lack 1527 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 3: of continuity and really just having players that as a 1528 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 3: fan you can kind of get behind and you know, 1529 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 3: you identify with who you're buying the jersey, who you 1530 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 3: buying the jersey. You know they don't they don't have 1531 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 3: a lot of that identity right now. So i'd agree. 1532 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 6: So we're saying that, I guess. 1533 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 3: They're not going to win what you're not going to 1534 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 3: win and win champions win the championship. 1535 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 6: But as he's saying, you know, not counting play it, 1536 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 6: like I would want to see a playoff caliber team, 1537 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 6: Like I don't want continuity. If I'm not winning anything. 1538 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 3: Right, you don't want to watch it. Like Barry Sanders 1539 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 3: get his teeth kicked in, well, he looks awesome. 1540 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 6: For well, Barry Sanders might be an exception that I 1541 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 6: would say, if my team's going to stink, at least 1542 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 6: I have an all time great that I'm watching. 1543 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well, Matthew Stafford. 1544 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 6: I could I could take myself and you know I 1545 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 6: could do that, but you know I have elite Like 1546 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 6: is that what he said? Like, you know, a continuity 1547 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 6: with elite player, Like I don't have that. 1548 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 3: I think he was kind of saying that there are 1549 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 3: elite players that you could. 1550 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 6: But Barry sal would be one one of one, right, Like, 1551 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 6: I can't imagine anybody that I would want to really 1552 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 6: watch on a team that just sucks, especially I want 1553 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 6: new players. 1554 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 3: Can't get the ball to him. It's frustrating. 1555 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 6: Yeah. Oh like if the Patriots drafted Marvin Harrison junior. Yeah, 1556 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 6: there you go. 1557 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 2: It all comes back Alex and Raleigh. 1558 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 9: What if the n C doua A decided to tell 1559 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 9: the transfers they have to give up pay for a 1560 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 9: year in order to transfer. That would put a halt 1561 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 9: to all these transfers. Wouldn't onto the draft take the 1562 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 9: quarterback and protect him, And we can't have another quarterback 1563 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 9: be Skins out of his shadow. When he hikes the ball. 1564 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 9: I'm hopeful of the offense will be the main focus 1565 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 9: of the draft and we can see an improvement. Even 1566 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 9: Devin mccorty says offense, offense. 1567 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,919 Speaker 3: That's true. We were there. 1568 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 6: We were there. 1569 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 3: He said, I hope they go offense, offense, offense. 1570 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 6: So he did. What was that the draft? 1571 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 3: The party part? Steve is in ticket holders. 1572 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 6: It was. 1573 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 3: When that Sat Saturday. He was excellent. You know, it's 1574 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 3: just it's I think it's we were like, fans can't 1575 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 3: really be mad at Devin McCarty right now, you know, 1576 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 3: like everybody just loves Devon and everybody else can can 1577 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 3: be put in the cross ears. But you know, I 1578 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 3: think he expressed I mean, there was no there was 1579 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 3: nothing about the dynasty really, But you know, I think 1580 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 3: that he he's able to just kind of tow that 1581 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 3: line pretty well right now between media and being a 1582 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 3: patriot and criticizing the team a little bit, but also 1583 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, not not having a go overboard with it. 1584 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh yeah. Aaron at Atlanta. Two things. If 1585 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 2: you could go back to the last five drafts and 1586 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 2: change a single draft pick using hindsight, which would you 1587 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 2: pick and who would you pick instead. So that's the 1588 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 2: first question. 1589 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 11: A J. 1590 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 10: Brown over here, that's a good one, the easiest answered. 1591 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,919 Speaker 6: I mean, that comes off the top of my head. 1592 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 2: But anyone over Cold Strange, Yes, I did that. 1593 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 6: Did you guys play the whole thing of though? 1594 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 3: Fortunately, yeah, we play a lot of it. It went 1595 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 3: on way too long. 1596 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 6: That was a treat for me because I had never 1597 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 6: heard it. 1598 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 10: True story when I when I was interviewing for the position, 1599 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 10: I actually told Mike about it because I was. 1600 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 2: Worried that it might come up. 1601 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 3: We like him, but I was our first round pick. 1602 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 6: He doesn't like him. That is so great, And I 1603 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 6: was right. I'm pretty sure that I had a similar 1604 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 6: I know. 1605 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,640 Speaker 3: That's you put it side by side with pulse reaction. 1606 01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 9: On Cold Strange, like if you'd been drafted in the 1607 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 9: fifth round or the fourth round. 1608 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 6: You know, yeah, no, and I honestly, players are something else. 1609 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 10: If the Patriots draft to get back on topic, if 1610 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 10: the Patriots draft a J. Brown instead of to kill Harry, 1611 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 10: does Tom Brady retire a Patriot? 1612 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 6: Probably? 1613 01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. You see the dynasty. 1614 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 9: Second one, tell us about the time each of you 1615 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 9: got in the most trouble. 1616 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 2: With your parents. 1617 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 6: Oh, I can't tell that on there. 1618 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 2: Doesn't involve drugs. Maybe, Oh, that's all right. 1619 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever Really, I was a good kid. 1620 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 3: I didn't get to. 1621 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 2: See that dude. 1622 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 6: For the most part, I was too but I did 1623 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 6: get I got in a lot of mischievous trouble. I 1624 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 6: got caught skip in school and that was bad. That 1625 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 6: was really I think it was a freshman in high school. 1626 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 3: I think the closest I came to it was like 1627 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 3: one of the first drinking parties I ever went to. 1628 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 3: And it was like down at the power lines, you know, 1629 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 3: like that's where the parties are, like out in the woods, 1630 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 3: and so you know, I'm all excited because walking distance. 1631 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 3: And I had a couple of friends sleep over, and 1632 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 3: so we walk out into the woods. You know, it 1633 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 3: was like a mile away down in the room. So 1634 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 3: we're all sitting there, you know, and it's like, all right, 1635 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 3: we have like eighteen beers for everybod. Everyone gets like 1636 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 3: half a beer, you know, like that's like how bad 1637 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 3: it was. So we're sitting there. All a sudden it's 1638 01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 3: getting dark. I'm like, may we're being frash lights that 1639 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 3: this is getting worse and worse, all of a sudden, 1640 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 3: these flashlights kicking. 1641 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,719 Speaker 2: It's the cops. 1642 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 3: And so I thought I was all of a sudden 1643 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 3: in like Rambo movie, Like I sprinted like right through 1644 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,640 Speaker 3: a pond, like got soaked. I was like, you know, 1645 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 3: huddling in the woods. I like, you know, camouflage on. 1646 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like waiting to see how I can 1647 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 3: get home because you know, I'm separated. So finally make 1648 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 3: my way through the woods. You know, I lost my 1649 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 3: friends though, that were supposed to be sleeping over. So 1650 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no, I'll just run and if the 1651 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 3: cop stopped me, but no, I'm just out for a run, 1652 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 3: you know, like ten o'clock on Saturday. So he finally 1653 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 3: got home. I walked right in and then that was 1654 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,560 Speaker 3: like we're a party and I was drinking and it 1655 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 3: was there we lost all our friends, and my dad 1656 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 3: was like, all right, let's go, and so I told 1657 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 3: your dad. I just I just spilled it on my 1658 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 3: parents and they were laughing. I mean they weren't even mad. 1659 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 3: And then we got the car. We went and we 1660 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,640 Speaker 3: not only picked up the kids that were supposed to 1661 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 3: be sleeping over, we picked up a couple of other kids. 1662 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,640 Speaker 3: Then my dad then said, come on shower up at 1663 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 3: our house, and then he drove them home. 1664 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 6: So yourself, I had had such a deuce smooth. I 1665 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 6: folded quickly the first time I got caught drinking, saying 1666 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 6: in a similar kind of way, I fet like I 1667 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 6: got sick and they my parents came home like the 1668 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 6: next day they were away, and they were like, why 1669 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 6: is it all like? Everything is all clean? It was 1670 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 6: all and uh, like an idiot, I said, yeah, I 1671 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 6: threw up, instead of just saying I don't know. I 1672 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 6: just dropped a soda or whatever. And I was like, 1673 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 6: you threw up. I was feeling awful, you know. I 1674 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 6: cleaned it up a little bit. Were you drinking? No, 1675 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 6: were you're drinking? Yeah, that's basically how it went down. Yeah. 1676 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 6: But when I got caught skipping school, I was out 1677 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 6: with because I all my a lot of my friends 1678 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 6: went to Pope John and Mall and Catholic and they 1679 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 6: were off that day. So I was like, I'll just 1680 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 6: skip and I'll hang out with them. And my mother 1681 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 6: called my friend's house saying, let me let me talk 1682 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 6: to Paul. He's not here, mis prol he's at school. 1683 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 6: My friend Greg, Jimmy Thistle's brother in law. He said, 1684 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 6: he's at school, and like, well, yeah, okay, I know 1685 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 6: he's there, Greg, let me just talk to him. I 1686 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 6: don't know what you're talking about. And he goes, you know, okay. 1687 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 6: So he hangs up and he looks at me and 1688 01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 6: he goes. And it was like ten o'clock in the morning. Oh, 1689 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 6: and I had to go through the rest of the 1690 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 6: day because I couldn't go home, right. I was just 1691 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 6: I had to try to play out. I had to 1692 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 6: try to play it out, right, So tough day, tough day. Talk. 1693 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 6: I waited, I waited and waited and waited, and I 1694 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 6: walked in and like I had my books under my arm, 1695 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 6: boom boom boom. And that was usually fine because my 1696 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 6: mother was like my mother was like, you know, five two, 1697 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 6: and you know, it wasn't really packing a wallup. Then 1698 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 6: my father got home and it was a little different. 1699 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1700 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 6: I was like, we already went through this. 1701 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, we'd have to have a whole show to talk 1702 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 9: about the stuff I got in trouble for all right, 1703 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,679 Speaker 9: Paul's foods here, Uh so we got to eat anything 1704 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 9: before break? No, okay, so we'll read some stuff when 1705 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 9: we come back, but right now, time to eat. 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These deals won't last. 1736 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 11: It's your Verizon. 1737 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,799 Speaker 3: What's up, everybody? 1738 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,400 Speaker 8: Mike just So sat down with Daniel Jeremiah in this 1739 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 8: week's episode of the Draft Countdown podcast presented by bud Light. 1740 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. 1741 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 5: All right, so excited to be joined by Daniel Jeremiah 1742 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 5: now DJ Patriots sitting at three. Overall, it seems like 1743 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 5: we're kind of I know you took Jayden Daniels in 1744 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,600 Speaker 5: your latest mock draft. Everybody I think is kind of 1745 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,560 Speaker 5: accepted Drake may or Jayden and Daniels. That seems like 1746 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 5: the most popular pick. Just what do you see in 1747 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 5: those two guys? What could fans here expect if if 1748 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,600 Speaker 5: you were to draft one of those guys? Do you 1749 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 5: think they're ready to come in and play right away. 1750 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 5: Do you think they have to sit? 1751 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,680 Speaker 4: I think they could both come in and play. I 1752 01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 4: think for sure, let's start with Jayden Daniels, and let's 1753 01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 4: start with that one. He's started a zillion games, started 1754 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,719 Speaker 4: fifty plus games in college. He's older, he's mature, he's 1755 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 4: been through adversity, so you know, those are the things 1756 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 4: you kind of look at when you're you know, Okay, 1757 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 4: this guy canna be able to survive some of these 1758 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 4: these speed bumps along their way here. I think he 1759 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 4: would be fine. I think also with him the athleticism 1760 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 4: to be able to buy time, and as he gets 1761 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 4: more comfortable in the passing game that they're going to 1762 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,719 Speaker 4: deploy there. I think you've you've got ways to generate 1763 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 4: offense as he's still gonna, you know, even though he's 1764 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 4: played a lot of college games, learn how to read 1765 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 4: NFL defenses and get adjusted there. I think his legs 1766 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 4: by him some time. So I think you could absolutely 1767 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 4: get him out there. You know what you like about him, 1768 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 4: Look the accuracy, especially over the top. He's got unbelievable touch. 1769 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 4: He played with confidence this year. I mean, there was 1770 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 4: so many slot fades that they hit. They were just 1771 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 4: you know, one after another after another, perfect over the 1772 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 4: shoulder throws. And then when things aren't there, you know, 1773 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 4: he can go make things happen with his legs. So 1774 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 4: that's him as a player. Why I think he'd be 1775 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 4: fine going right into the mix. 1776 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 2: Drake. 1777 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 4: May you know the prototype you get the big physical 1778 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 4: athletic dude, who can you know? To me, he can 1779 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 4: make every type of throw. And I mean that not 1780 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 4: just like velocity wise, he has the arm strength to 1781 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 4: do that. I mean you'll see him layer the ball, 1782 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 4: he'll take, take some steam off the ball, touch it up. 1783 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 4: He can get those over underthrows going. He got into 1784 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 4: some bad habits this year, some pressure. He's drifting away 1785 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 4: a little bit better job of getting his feet set. 1786 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 4: But I don't think I've seen anything from him, and 1787 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 4: I don't believe I've seen anything from him that would say, Okay, 1788 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 4: this guy really needs a lot of time. There's some 1789 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 4: things to work on, some things to clean up, but 1790 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 4: again another room mentally and physically tough kid. 1791 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 5: So if we don't take a quarterback there, you know, 1792 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 5: everybody's kind of considering do they trade down, and it's 1793 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 5: I think it's a you know, with the holes at 1794 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:50,759 Speaker 5: tackle at receiver. 1795 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,480 Speaker 6: I mean, these classes are loaded. 1796 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 3: At both those positions. 1797 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you trade down though, It's just it's 1798 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 5: hard to see where they're picking thirty four. Those tackles 1799 01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 5: are going to kind of go. It feels like, you know, 1800 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 5: even some of the receivers. I know that it's a 1801 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 5: deep class, but what do you see maybe be a 1802 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 5: package that the Patriots would consider to trade down with, 1803 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 5: and you know, would it makes sense maybe for them 1804 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 5: to try to hit that tackle class near the top 1805 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 5: or or some of those receivers. 1806 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of different scenarios you can kick around. 1807 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you don't have to potentially go that far. 1808 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at the Giants as a 1809 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 4: team that's been mentioned as a quarterback team, whoever their 1810 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 4: guy is, that could be something where if you're you know, 1811 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,719 Speaker 4: if you're the Patriots, you're like, you know, we really 1812 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 4: like four quarterbacks, but we also have these other needs 1813 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 4: that you mentioned. If we were to go to six, 1814 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,600 Speaker 4: there's a chance, you know, there's there's a you know, 1815 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,680 Speaker 4: there's a chance maybe the fourth quarterback is there. If not, 1816 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 4: you have to be comfortable with the fact of Okay, 1817 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 4: well I'm gonna get you know, I might have a 1818 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 4: chance to get the best offensive tackle in the draft, 1819 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 4: or I can get one of the top two wide 1820 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 4: receivers in this draft. That's that, you know, that's an 1821 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 4: option while picking up all these other resources to fill 1822 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 4: some of these holes. So that would one that would 1823 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,679 Speaker 4: be intriguing to me. I think everybody's mentioned the Vikings 1824 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 4: as a team that would you know, love to move 1825 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 4: up they acquire that second first round pick from Houston 1826 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,639 Speaker 4: to be able to go do that. So eleven, you're 1827 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 4: gonna miss out on top three wide outs, they're gone. 1828 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 4: You're gonna probably miss out in the first two, maybe 1829 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,680 Speaker 4: even three tackles. So yeah, that one, I wouldn't I mean, 1830 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 4: to me, it's sticking pick is the smartest thing to do. 1831 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,599 Speaker 4: And if for some reason you are going to trade down, 1832 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 4: I don't know that I would want to go beyond 1833 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 4: six if I was New England. 1834 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 5: You mentioned four quarterbacks. JJ McCarthy kind of you know, 1835 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 5: getting a little buzz about him. Why do you think 1836 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 5: that is? What about him is his kind of made 1837 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 5: him rise here after the combine. 1838 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 4: Well, I think there's you know, a lot of times 1839 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 4: we talk about guys rising. Guys haven't had a chance 1840 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 4: to do him yet. And I think he wasn't one 1841 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 4: of those name brand players that people assume would come 1842 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 4: out this year over last offseason. So if you're a 1843 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 4: decision maker on personnel side, you probably hadn't watched him 1844 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,439 Speaker 4: over the summer, and then you get into this year, 1845 01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 4: You've got your whole host of candidates for quarterbacks with 1846 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 4: the assumption is he's probably going to go back to school. 1847 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 4: If you're loosely following it, you're like, yeah, he's not 1848 01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 4: posting really big numbers, so he's maybe, you know, kind 1849 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 4: of hiding in playing sight on the number one team 1850 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 4: in the country. But I think once the season ended, 1851 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 4: he declares, I think then people had a chance to 1852 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,000 Speaker 4: go back through. It takes a while. I was talking 1853 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 4: about this somebody the other day. It takes a while to 1854 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,000 Speaker 4: get comfortable with him. It's like an acquired taste, where 1855 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 4: you know, you watch a game, you watch another game like, Okay, 1856 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 4: I don't know, has he done much here. I've saw 1857 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 4: a couple of good throws. But then when you piece 1858 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 4: the whole thing together, specifically when you do the cutups, 1859 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 4: when you watch like every third and seven plus throw 1860 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 4: and you, Okay, this is where you're facing challenging defenses 1861 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,680 Speaker 4: that know you're going to throw the football and you 1862 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,639 Speaker 4: see him, he deals. He his third and seven reel 1863 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 4: is good or better than any quarterback in this draft class. 1864 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,040 Speaker 4: So that's why I think it took a little time. 1865 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 4: It wasn't just a cut and dry, easy evaluation. 1866 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 5: I mentioned kind of the three big needs quarterback, tackle, wide, receiver. 1867 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 5: It just seems hard to get all three. Patriots just 1868 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 5: signed kJ Osbourne. You know they have some depth there. 1869 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 5: They got nine receivers on the ross. I think what's 1870 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,680 Speaker 5: really lacking is an outside threat. And I guess the 1871 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 5: question really is if you don't get a receiver there 1872 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 5: in day one, ad Mitchell, those kind of guys late 1873 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 5: first maybe that you'd have to trade back up for. 1874 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 3: Are there any fits you maybe see that could be 1875 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 3: that developmental outside guy that you could get in the second, 1876 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 3: third round kind of moving forward. 1877 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 4: There's a ton of wideouts when you go through this draft, 1878 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 4: and I think it's been that way for really the 1879 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 4: last several drafts. It's just what the college game has 1880 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,400 Speaker 4: given you. So you know, you talk about a pick 1881 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 4: at thirty four, top of the second round. You know, 1882 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 4: one of the guys who's who's you know, got a 1883 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 4: lot of love around the league is Pearsall from Florida, 1884 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 4: and he's somebody who could play inside, could play outside, 1885 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 4: could do a lot of different things there. Troy Franklin 1886 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 4: would give him a speed merchant on the outside there 1887 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 4: from Oregon who's a little lean, but he has a 1888 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 4: lot of juice, a lot of explosiveness. But I mean, 1889 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 4: we could literally go through the entire every round of 1890 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 4: the draft and I can give you three names that 1891 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 4: are going to be there. 1892 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 2: It's just there's a million of them. 1893 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 4: So and that's one of the things that I'm struggling 1894 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 4: with forecast in this first top ten is yes, I 1895 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 4: have three receivers the top five players in this draft class. 1896 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there going like, gosh, I wouldn't want 1897 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 4: to pass one of these three guys. But then I'm like, yeah, 1898 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,720 Speaker 4: you could wait until the second, third, fourth round and 1899 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,480 Speaker 4: they're still starting caliber players there. Whereas you know, tackles, 1900 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 4: even though it's a deep group, you know, historically here 1901 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 4: they're gone at the end of the first round. You're 1902 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,640 Speaker 4: it's hard to find starting tackles they're just not going 1903 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 4: to be there. So that's why to me, that informs 1904 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 4: the decision a little bit and you go, Okay, maybe 1905 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 4: I have this receiver a little bit over this tackle 1906 01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 4: or maybe a little bit over this, you know, edge 1907 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 4: rusher or receiver. When you look at the receivers with 1908 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 4: versus edgreshers and tackles, it's like, man, I can get 1909 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,520 Speaker 4: receivers anywhere, So that'll be fascinating. 1910 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 5: Just generally, what do you what do you feel like 1911 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 5: when we get into Day three, late day two, Day three, 1912 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,400 Speaker 5: where's the value there? Like, what are the position groups 1913 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 5: you feel like a have that depth that I mean, 1914 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 5: you know, regardless of niedchs, just the what are the 1915 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 5: strongest positions there in the Day three Yeah, I. 1916 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,719 Speaker 6: Think there's corners. 1917 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,920 Speaker 4: I think it's a good group of Day three corners. 1918 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 4: I also think the running backs are all going to 1919 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 4: get pushed down. We don't have a lot of separation there. 1920 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 4: You know, one team's top running back might be another 1921 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 4: team's eight running back. It's just there's a clump of them, 1922 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 4: so you don't see them going the first round. There's 1923 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 4: a chance we potentially don't even see one go in 1924 01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,599 Speaker 4: the second round. And then now I think you see 1925 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 4: a run in the third, and then I think even 1926 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 4: to early on Day three, that fourth, fifth round, I 1927 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 4: think there's a good number of backs and that's kind 1928 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,879 Speaker 4: of the sweet spot for him in this draft. So corners, 1929 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 4: running backs, those would be the two. To me. I 1930 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,600 Speaker 4: think once you get in day three, I think you 1931 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 4: can get starters. 1932 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 5: So last question one for you just obviously turnover this year, 1933 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 5: major turnover at the coaching position, Alex van Pelt coming 1934 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,880 Speaker 5: in as the offensive coordinator, Drop Mayo head coach, game 1935 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 5: plan defense. They've always been pretty flexible on that side 1936 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,679 Speaker 5: of the ball. Just overall, any fits that you see, 1937 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 5: I know the Patriots are evolving, we don't know for 1938 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 5: sure what they're gonna do, but assuming they kind of 1939 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 5: stick in really at least defensively what we've seen from 1940 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 5: Van Pelt, any guys out there that you think are 1941 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 5: kind of fit. 1942 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 6: From an offensive standpoint. 1943 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, either either side of the ball, offense or defense. 1944 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,680 Speaker 4: I mean to me, I know that obviously Bill's not there, 1945 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,679 Speaker 4: but I think defensively, I don't really see anything changing. 1946 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,719 Speaker 4: I mean, they're always you know, I think that's ingrained 1947 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 4: in their culture and who they are. They're going to 1948 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,800 Speaker 4: value you know, smart, tough, erst little players. I think 1949 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 4: they're maybe trying to get a little little faster, and 1950 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 4: to me, you can do that, not only you know, 1951 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 4: we think about the secondary. I think again just linebackers. 1952 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,640 Speaker 4: Just get more speed, as much speed as you can 1953 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,680 Speaker 4: get out there on the field, and then offensively, the 1954 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 4: identity to me is going to be about, okay, is 1955 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 4: are we going to stick and pick? If it's the 1956 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 4: third guy is going to be a quarterback, then to me, 1957 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,880 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think I like the fact 1958 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,839 Speaker 4: of bringing Hunter back to me, I have a young quarterback. 1959 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 4: I want easy completions. So even though we would like 1960 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 4: a big, a big guy in the outside of flyer, 1961 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 4: I think it'd almost be more valuable just adding quickness 1962 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 4: and guys that can uncover and guys that can run 1963 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,600 Speaker 4: after the catch and try and take some of that 1964 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,680 Speaker 4: off of this guy who you know, you've got a 1965 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,680 Speaker 4: bridge quarterback in place so he doesn't have to go 1966 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,760 Speaker 4: out there week one. But I would imagine if they 1967 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 4: stick and pick, we're going to see that guy sooner 1968 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 4: than later. 1969 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,080 Speaker 8: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, Oh no, 1970 01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 8: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1971 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,920 Speaker 8: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where 1972 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,759 Speaker 8: now it's next for residential delivery only. 1973 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,640 Speaker 3: And now great moments in. 1974 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 2: History. 1975 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 12: And yet I was still nice enough to invite you along. Yes, 1976 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 12: very nice. You've got our There were like six of us. 1977 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 2: I mean, the place was to say Fred was the 1978 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:23,320 Speaker 2: you know what block? 1979 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 6: Why are you mad at me? Why? 1980 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:25,160 Speaker 2: Why? 1981 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 6: He says, with the big grin across his face. 1982 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 2: Why are you so upset? 1983 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 3: What I'm upset at you? 1984 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,719 Speaker 2: Why? Yeah? Just you? All of our lives are open book. 1985 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:34,599 Speaker 2: Why is it you are? 1986 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,799 Speaker 12: Why you purposely do these things? 1987 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 2: Yes? I do, yes, yes, I do talk. We all 1988 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,920 Speaker 2: talk about things going on. 1989 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 3: You make things out of thin air that are not there. 1990 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 2: What's thin air? You were with a lady friend? What's 1991 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 2: what's thin air about that? 1992 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 12: No, a lady friend implies that there's something going on, 1993 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:53,720 Speaker 12: and she wrote that. 1994 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 3: That's the end of it. 1995 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,600 Speaker 12: Dude, look like but it doesn't have to be. It 1996 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 12: is because I told you yesterday. And I don't like 1997 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:00,799 Speaker 12: it when you make me repeat myself. 1998 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 2: It sounds like my father. You think I'm screwing things 1999 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 2: up for. 2000 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 3: You just tell me you've been screwing things up for 2001 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 3: me for twelve years. Buddy, did you specifically tell him 2002 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 3: not to mention it? No? I knew he was going 2003 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 3: as soon as he walked up and saw us. He 2004 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,200 Speaker 3: had that stupid grin that he's got on his face 2005 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,800 Speaker 3: right now. I can so see it. 2006 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,679 Speaker 2: I won't mention it again. But if when something happens, 2007 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 2: could you let us. 2008 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,480 Speaker 3: Know nothing is going to happen. 2009 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,680 Speaker 2: You know, like if they hook, you know, if they 2010 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 2: decide to nothing is going to happen. 2011 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,759 Speaker 3: You morons. I'm gonna go with Andy. 2012 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,800 Speaker 2: Why are you yelling at me? 2013 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,639 Speaker 12: I didn't do anything because you're joking around to him 2014 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,680 Speaker 12: on a little Yes, you did, admit it, but this 2015 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:42,240 Speaker 12: is all. 2016 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 6: Fred, I don't know. 2017 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 2: Okay, what'd you guys eat? Did I miss that part? 2018 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 2: I had swordfish. 2019 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: That's another great moment from. 2020 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 9: Easy to Drink, Easy to Enjoy bud Light, the official 2021 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 9: beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. And if you're 2022 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 9: under wondering what to do without game day weekends, spruce 2023 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 9: up your home for festive spring. God, let's try this again. 2024 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 9: Spruce up your home for festive spring brunches with Bob's 2025 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,760 Speaker 9: latest party ready seasonal dining styles. 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No, No, it 2037 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 3: was our anniversary. So we we were in Boston. D go, No, 2038 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 3: We're great somewhere in Boston. And then we went to 2039 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 3: a museum. 2040 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 2: Want to the York Harbor Inn in York, Maine. They 2041 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 2: have a brunch. 2042 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 3: Oh, Inns always have the brunches, Like in Vermont, they 2043 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,439 Speaker 3: always have really good brunches. It inns. 2044 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 2: I had. I had roast beef and then I had 2045 01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 2: breakfast aff. 2046 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 3: There you go right like it doesn't even matter, like 2047 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,960 Speaker 3: a little of this, a little that little breakfast. But 2048 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 3: that's what the be doing. 2049 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 9: Is Travis and West Virginia says, sorry if it seems 2050 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 9: like I'm coming out of left field. But every time 2051 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 9: I hear Evan's voice, I think of Jersey Mikes. I 2052 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,800 Speaker 9: think the fact that I think the fact that they 2053 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,760 Speaker 9: slice their meat on the spot is completely inconsequential. 2054 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I disagree. I think that's what. 2055 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 9: No, but he's saying that it's better to promote Jersey 2056 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 9: Mikes than the fact that. 2057 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 3: They slave better than I've been saying that the Brewins 2058 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 3: somehow got some of that Jersey Mike's money, and I don't. 2059 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 3: I don't know why why we can't come this way on. 2060 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna pump up Jersey Mikes 2061 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 10: because they don't pay me to. 2062 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 6: So there you go. I like, I like Jersey Mike's 2063 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 6: as my voice. 2064 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 2: I think I think, you know, that category might be open. 2065 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 9: And if you're someone that's affiliated with Jersey Mikes and 2066 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 9: you're listening to the show and you want to become 2067 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 9: a sponsor. 2068 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 2: Picture this. 2069 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 3: Every day we launch in the middle of the show, 2070 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,520 Speaker 3: we put a little platter on the middle. 2071 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,559 Speaker 9: And get a couple original thirteens with with Mike's way. 2072 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,320 Speaker 2: Right right there. 2073 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 3: Maybe we even get the meat. 2074 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:14,840 Speaker 2: We'll cut the. 2075 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 3: Meat in here we'll you know, Peyton Manning and cut 2076 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 3: some meat. 2077 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 6: I don't need the meat, you know, in front of me, 2078 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 6: like that whole thing. 2079 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 2: You don't of meat in front of you. 2080 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,759 Speaker 6: I don't need it to be cut. 2081 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 3: You're not plugging holes. 2082 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,719 Speaker 10: That's not even my attraction to Jersey Mike's. 2083 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 6: They do that. It's a consistent. 2084 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 10: It's the consistency. It's just always good every time. I 2085 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,800 Speaker 10: know exactly what I'm getting myself into. 2086 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,280 Speaker 3: You get a bad roast beef every now and then 2087 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 3: when you get it's like, oh, this is a little 2088 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:40,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of. 2089 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:42,479 Speaker 6: No. 2090 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 3: Not not usually because they cut it themselves. But I 2091 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 3: think that's when you go rogue and you try to 2092 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 3: make your own roast beef sandwich and you get not 2093 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 3: ideal roast beef and it's a little you know, get 2094 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:52,680 Speaker 3: some fat in there. 2095 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:54,760 Speaker 6: I like consistency. 2096 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 3: So what if they have let's work, let's let's spip 2097 01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:58,559 Speaker 3: all this. 2098 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 6: You've got me in. So what if you go to 2099 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,639 Speaker 6: Jersey Mikes and they cut a roast beef that's bad. 2100 01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 3: I don't know, I might be I would question the 2101 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 3: roast beef then from there on out. 2102 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,760 Speaker 6: So it's not the fact that it's cut in front 2103 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,680 Speaker 6: of you. It's the fact that you think it's a 2104 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 6: hard quality of meat. 2105 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 2: Perhaps, well, but if you know it hasn't been sitting. 2106 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 3: Around you know, right, But bores head is very it is. 2107 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,920 Speaker 2: That what they see. I like it. 2108 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 6: I like I don't necessarily need to have a cut 2109 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 6: in front of me. I assume it's not sitting around 2110 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,880 Speaker 6: for like days subway, but you are correct. I don't 2111 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:41,439 Speaker 6: think that the again, not a sponsor. I'm not sure 2112 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,520 Speaker 6: what they serve as actual meat. Like that's my problem. 2113 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 2: Because I eat Subway. I do. 2114 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,120 Speaker 10: I used to eat it all the pinch, but then 2115 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 10: this Jersey Mike started to expand to this. 2116 01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 9: Oh, here's the question for you, and people know that 2117 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 9: talk about football. 2118 01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,559 Speaker 6: No, no, no. When you were gone last week, we had 2119 01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 6: a great show. 2120 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,280 Speaker 2: What's better? My riz was up a cheeseburger or a 2121 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:03,960 Speaker 2: Paddy Melt. 2122 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 6: I don't know the difference. 2123 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 2: Paddy melt. 2124 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 3: You're getting some onions. 2125 01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 6: A good cheeseburger. 2126 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,720 Speaker 9: Paddy Melt is basically a cheeseburger, but instead of being 2127 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 9: on a bun, it's on toast. 2128 01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 2: Could but it's slice can be very good. 2129 01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 3: It can be very good. I'll get one of those 2130 01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,600 Speaker 3: at at Mels driving in l A. 2131 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,120 Speaker 6: They have those those are that when you're in l A. 2132 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 3: One in l A. It's well, it's one of those, 2133 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 3: like there was a few of them. 2134 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 2: But I sitting I think, I. 2135 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:42,120 Speaker 9: Think I'll always choose a Paddy melt over a cheeseburger 2136 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 9: if it's on the menu, because yeah, it's you get 2137 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,640 Speaker 9: more of the meat, you know, it's less bread. 2138 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I'm a cheeseburger guy. So if you're looking 2139 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,240 Speaker 6: for it to be a little bit less feeling that. 2140 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 9: Well, I just want I want the meat to be 2141 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 9: the dominant food, all right. 2142 01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 3: You know, you can get a lot of onions, so 2143 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,439 Speaker 3: sometimes they kind of grilled in the onions. 2144 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 6: Sometimes they do like a smash burg smash burger on 2145 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,599 Speaker 6: the onion cheese. 2146 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 9: You know who works had a fabulous patty melt and 2147 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 9: I think where I had my first one was Friendlies. 2148 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah sure, all right, fact a fact. 2149 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:18,760 Speaker 3: Grilled cheeses, I mean grill cheese. 2150 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 9: You get the patty melt with the crinkle fries in 2151 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,040 Speaker 9: the fribble. 2152 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 10: It's just so you go up to me that Friendlies 2153 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:26,880 Speaker 10: is what it's going on. 2154 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 6: Freddy nailed it. 2155 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 3: There's still one here on Root one in Norwood that 2156 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,160 Speaker 3: was hopping and we drove by. It's the only one. 2157 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. I used to take the kids there a lot 2158 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,200 Speaker 6: when they were young because it's just easy, you know, 2159 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 6: like if they were like being loud or whatever, it 2160 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,280 Speaker 6: wasn't you know, you're friendlies, you know, pretty nice there. 2161 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,840 Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't really venture out by myself with 2162 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 6: both of them a lot. Friendlies was the place I 2163 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,160 Speaker 6: was comfortable. I can handle this. I can handle friendlies. 2164 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,800 Speaker 6: They're going to give me like crayons in the in 2165 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,599 Speaker 6: the matt. I got this. 2166 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,080 Speaker 2: All right. Uh, phones are downs. 2167 01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:58,920 Speaker 9: That's why I haven't given out the phone number, but 2168 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,919 Speaker 9: web radio at pay dot com it's the email address. 2169 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,360 Speaker 9: We're getting a whole new phone system eventually. 2170 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we we people were writing in on Thursday 2171 01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 3: about that, so we tried to leave. 2172 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 9: Now we're working on it because you have to move 2173 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 9: the phone numbers over and uh it takes time for 2174 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 9: that to happen. 2175 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,560 Speaker 2: So we're working on it. 2176 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,800 Speaker 6: Who am I blaming on this? But put this on. 2177 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,000 Speaker 9: I think by the time the draft is over, we'll 2178 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:31,040 Speaker 9: have new phones. You but here comes back. I'm blaming 2179 01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:32,240 Speaker 9: you finance. 2180 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,600 Speaker 6: He said, I actually talked about this on Friday with 2181 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 6: my buddy. He knew nothing about it. Okay nothing. 2182 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 9: Bronson writes in I really like the idea of pairing 2183 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 9: tz Walker with May. My question is, do you think 2184 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 9: Walker will be there for our third pick or we 2185 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,640 Speaker 9: have to trade up for him. 2186 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 10: I think he'll be there. F Nicks, Yeah, he had 2187 01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,880 Speaker 10: a rough Senior Bowl week he's had. You know, he's 2188 01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,679 Speaker 10: one of those guys that's doesn't have very many branches 2189 01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,639 Speaker 10: on the old rout tree. You know, He's a vertical receiver, 2190 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,559 Speaker 10: run down the field, and a lot of his film 2191 01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,760 Speaker 10: is just him running through off coverage and not a 2192 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,200 Speaker 10: lot of press, not a lot of resistance. And with 2193 01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 10: the Senior Bowl he saw more press, saw a more 2194 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,679 Speaker 10: physical coverage, and had trouble finishing through contact. 2195 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 6: I'm not necessarily anti you know, coupling. As you kids 2196 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:29,040 Speaker 6: like to say with your fantasy terms. Here we go again, 2197 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:35,200 Speaker 6: couple that's auling is very different from me. That's very 2198 01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,840 Speaker 6: different with you were talking. But I'm not I'm not 2199 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,559 Speaker 6: opposed to the whole you know, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, 2200 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,240 Speaker 6: but I don't think it's anywhere near as valuable as 2201 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,040 Speaker 6: people make it out to be. I think there's a 2202 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,439 Speaker 6: lot of great quarterbacks that never threw the ball to 2203 01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:52,519 Speaker 6: their college teammates. Mahomes, I couldn't even tell you a 2204 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,040 Speaker 6: guy you threw the ball to in college. 2205 01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 9: Another note on everyone being so upset about our free 2206 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,840 Speaker 9: agency and not spending all our money. I think we 2207 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,519 Speaker 9: were signed some key players and swung for Ridley and 2208 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 9: that's all we can ask for. People have to remember 2209 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,479 Speaker 9: we have twenty eight players set to hit free agency 2210 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 9: next season, and I would prefer to re sign some 2211 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 9: guys like obviously bar More, hopefully Dougar. Plus there is 2212 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,759 Speaker 9: a ton of other guys I'd like to bring back, Mandre, 2213 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 9: David Andrews, Devia Pepper's Jonathan Jones gotscha. So we have 2214 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 9: a ton of guys to bring back next year. So 2215 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,720 Speaker 9: I'm not mad we didn't go all out in this 2216 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 9: average free agency. 2217 01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 3: What do you think said going on with dugger? 2218 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,800 Speaker 6: Sorry, Paul, you can email in next year because the 2219 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,639 Speaker 6: vast majority of you a list, I don't think we'll 2220 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 6: be back. Like gotcha Jonathan Jones reminder, isn't he just 2221 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 6: sing one too? Like? Do you want to give it 2222 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:44,559 Speaker 6: the running back shot because he's younger, but I mean 2223 01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 6: thirty something year old secondary and defensive lineman and cornerbacks. 2224 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,760 Speaker 6: I don't think you're gonna get all those guys back. 2225 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:53,760 Speaker 6: You might get one or two. 2226 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,400 Speaker 3: But do you think Duggers places us here under that tag? 2227 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:56,760 Speaker 2: Yes? 2228 01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it? 2229 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 6: Then yeah, but that my yes, I don't think he has. Yeah, 2230 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 6: they would have extended him bar more. I think could 2231 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 6: get extended imminently better like that. 2232 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 9: Mike and Bill Ricca wanted to comment on Jaden Daniels 2233 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 9: and go on the record that he is going to 2234 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 9: be a bust. He is a one read quarterback throwing 2235 01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:22,080 Speaker 9: to multiple first round wide receiver talents, who takes and 2236 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 9: takes sacks at obscene rates. I can't see him as 2237 01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,799 Speaker 9: anything other than justin Feel's two point zero? Am I crazy? 2238 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,479 Speaker 9: I'd love to hear your thoughts, give me may or 2239 01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 9: trade down. I would even rather JJ over Daniels my 2240 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 9: rankings Caleb Drake, Pennix JJ than Daniels. 2241 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 10: I would just you. Maybe you brought up some good points. 2242 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 10: The sack, the pressure to sack rate for Jaden Daniels 2243 01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,720 Speaker 10: is one stat that the nerds like me look at 2244 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,160 Speaker 10: in the draft process. That's been pretty predictive in terms 2245 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,960 Speaker 10: of the NFL. Is not good for Jaden Daniels. He's 2246 01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,760 Speaker 10: got one of the highest When he's under pressure, he 2247 01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,559 Speaker 10: takes a sack at an extremely high rate. But the 2248 01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,800 Speaker 10: one thing I will disagree, the one read quarterback then 2249 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 10: could not be further from the truth. That guy can 2250 01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 10: read the full field, go through progressions, get to the 2251 01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 10: number two three check down just as good as anybody else. 2252 01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,400 Speaker 6: So I would hold that as a more important trait 2253 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,719 Speaker 6: than if he's not a one one, one read guy. Yeah, disagree. 2254 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,200 Speaker 6: I always think of guys that are very mobile like 2255 01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,920 Speaker 6: that a is off sacked. But you're telling me every 2256 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 6: time he's under pressure he tends to Well it's not 2257 01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,560 Speaker 6: literally every time, but it's a higher rate, So that 2258 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 6: wuld that would concern me. Generally, guys that are very 2259 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,000 Speaker 6: mobile get sacked. They're always running around and sometimes they 2260 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:34,559 Speaker 6: get sacked. 2261 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, you know, it's kind of counterintuitive that you 2262 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:38,479 Speaker 3: think they'd be able to get. 2263 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,160 Speaker 6: Michael Vick was a very you know SA numbers. Yeah, 2264 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,880 Speaker 6: he does take a lot of sacks, There's there's no 2265 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 6: doubt about that. 2266 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 3: But it's that almost like could you break that down 2267 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:52,000 Speaker 3: more into like sacked within structure and sacked outside of structure. 2268 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 6: Yes, you probably could. That's something I would have to 2269 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:59,599 Speaker 6: do by hand, so probably won't if we draft him, 2270 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:00,960 Speaker 6: don't have it by the monday. 2271 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, but it's it's the sacked. The reason why 2272 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,479 Speaker 10: it's a fair concern is because if you look at 2273 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,240 Speaker 10: the lists of guys that weren't sacked a lot in 2274 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,599 Speaker 10: college versus guys that were sacked a lot in college, 2275 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,760 Speaker 10: there weren't there were sacked a lot in college in 2276 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,760 Speaker 10: this pressure rate percentage that I'm talking about, the list 2277 01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 10: is not good and they're basically the only good quarterback 2278 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 10: out of it is ironically Lamar, which is why everybody says, well, 2279 01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,840 Speaker 10: it means nothing because he plays like Lamar, and Lamar 2280 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,240 Speaker 10: did fine, so he'll be fine. 2281 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,679 Speaker 6: And it's a mobile quarterback too, So I'd be curious 2282 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,960 Speaker 6: what kind of number JJ McCarty has in that, because 2283 01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 6: I can't imagine JJ McCarty spent much of his time 2284 01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,200 Speaker 6: under pressure right period plenty of time. I saw one 2285 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,519 Speaker 6: stat that said that he had an absurd amount of time. 2286 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,519 Speaker 6: Average time to throw was almost like three seconds. I 2287 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,439 Speaker 6: think it was like two point nine to five seconds, 2288 01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 6: something really high. So I'd be curious to see if 2289 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 6: his percentage under pressure sacked under pressure is high. 2290 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,680 Speaker 9: If you look at a lot of these guys, these quarterbacks, 2291 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 9: except for maybe May in this last season, they all 2292 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,800 Speaker 9: have a lot of time, you know, so it's just 2293 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:10,719 Speaker 9: different in the pros. 2294 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:11,280 Speaker 2: That's to me. 2295 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,439 Speaker 6: That's the biggest way for his life the whole year. 2296 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the biggest thing is the speed of the game, 2297 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,559 Speaker 9: you know, and it comes at you so much faster 2298 01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 9: as a quarterback. 2299 01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,720 Speaker 6: Now, part of that is Caleb on Caleb Williams, and 2300 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,200 Speaker 6: I do think that My big knock on him is 2301 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:26,320 Speaker 6: he's kareless. 2302 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,559 Speaker 2: With the ball. Yeah, it's out here. 2303 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,639 Speaker 6: He scrambles around within one hand a lot, and that's 2304 01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,000 Speaker 6: why he fumbles a lot. Yeah, likes who's my guy, 2305 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,639 Speaker 6: Josh Allen, He still does. 2306 01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:40,080 Speaker 9: That, Joe and Richmond. This is on the kickoff rule. 2307 01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,679 Speaker 9: With the new kickoff return rules, it seems like running 2308 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,839 Speaker 9: back types may be better suited than the traditional speedy 2309 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,599 Speaker 9: return men that are on rosters. 2310 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 2: What do you think? 2311 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 6: I kind of agree with you, Yeah, I agree. 2312 01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 10: I think it's going to be a lot more about 2313 01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,120 Speaker 10: vision and burst than build. 2314 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,040 Speaker 3: Up speed breaking through a line too, you know. 2315 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to find a hole and hit it 2316 01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,200 Speaker 6: as opposed to you just gotta run up few as 2317 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,719 Speaker 6: fast as you can and see if you can get. 2318 01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,559 Speaker 9: Makes one cut and co Yeah, I think that right now, 2319 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,840 Speaker 9: all the special teams guys are thinking about this rule 2320 01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:08,920 Speaker 9: and how are they gonna It's. 2321 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 3: Gonna Antony and Gibson dealing with it. You know, I'm curious. 2322 01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 6: They did make an alteration to the original proposal and 2323 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,439 Speaker 6: that touchback is to the thirty not the thirty five. Okay, 2324 01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,040 Speaker 6: so I think you can still get plenty of touchbacks. 2325 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 10: So I got the numbers here for you. So pressure 2326 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,120 Speaker 10: to sacrate Jayden Daniels by far the highest at twenty 2327 01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:29,360 Speaker 10: four point five percent, So this means when he's under pressure, 2328 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,759 Speaker 10: he takes a sack on twenty four point five percent 2329 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:38,160 Speaker 10: of those dropacks. JJ McCarthy is fourteen point three percent, 2330 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,600 Speaker 10: and in the middle, in the middle, but towards the 2331 01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,680 Speaker 10: lower end of the spectrum. Michael Pennix is number one 2332 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,839 Speaker 10: at six point five percent, and Bo Nicks is eleven 2333 01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,880 Speaker 10: point six percent. Drake May is eighteen point nine percent. 2334 01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 10: So Drake May is also on the higher end of 2335 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,599 Speaker 10: the spectrum. I don't see Caleb on here. 2336 01:39:58,600 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 11: So. 2337 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,640 Speaker 2: Uh, let's see Grant Is in Columbus, Ohio. 2338 01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:07,280 Speaker 9: UH. I know I'm in the minority on this opinion, 2339 01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,120 Speaker 9: but I strongly feel the Patriots should draft the third 2340 01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:14,280 Speaker 9: and stock trade the third and stockpile as many picks 2341 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 9: as they can to fill the numerous needs on the team. 2342 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 9: The team is not ready for their next franchise quarterback, 2343 01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 9: and fans are kidding themselves if they think this team, 2344 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,040 Speaker 9: as constructed now has any chance of sniffing the playoffs. 2345 01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,000 Speaker 9: The QB position shouldn't be addressed until free agency or 2346 01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:33,000 Speaker 9: the draft next calendar year. If they do want to 2347 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,759 Speaker 9: take a quarterback this year, they should focus on someone 2348 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 9: like Sam Hartman in the later round. Let's go with 2349 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,040 Speaker 9: Jacobe and see how things shake out. 2350 01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,840 Speaker 2: I guess I just don't I don't care. 2351 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:46,760 Speaker 6: If you. 2352 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:52,640 Speaker 9: I just don't understand this mentality we have been We 2353 01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 9: were so lucky to have Tom Brady for so long. Right, 2354 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,840 Speaker 9: It's hard to find a franchise quarterback. 2355 01:40:58,360 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 2: In this league. 2356 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,400 Speaker 9: If you think that one of these three guys couldn't 2357 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,440 Speaker 9: be one, you better take them. 2358 01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,200 Speaker 2: You better take them. I don't care what the construction 2359 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:08,080 Speaker 2: of the team looks like. 2360 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,040 Speaker 6: I don't understand that mentality either. Fred I wrote about 2361 01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 6: it last week in the Notebook, this notion that all 2362 01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,439 Speaker 6: of a sudden came out of nowhere, like you can't 2363 01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,320 Speaker 6: take a rookie quarterback if you don't have the roster 2364 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,519 Speaker 6: to support him. Like, I don't get it. I know 2365 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,519 Speaker 6: everybody says it now, but I would also counter that 2366 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:29,320 Speaker 6: that email just by saying, so, just because you don't 2367 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 6: think you're going to make the playoffs, why should you 2368 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 6: not take a quarterback? Like? Why those things mutually exclusive? 2369 01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2370 01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 6: I don't. 2371 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,280 Speaker 10: I don't think that's looking at it as a one 2372 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,240 Speaker 10: year snapshot versus looking at it as like exactly, and 2373 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:43,559 Speaker 10: the draft is in a one year thing. 2374 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 6: So why is it okay if you don't think you're 2375 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:47,719 Speaker 6: going to make the playoffs to pick up a tackle. 2376 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,400 Speaker 6: But it's not okay if you don't think you're gonna 2377 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:51,599 Speaker 6: make the playoffs to take a quarterback. 2378 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,200 Speaker 2: I know it's just the frame of mind that never 2379 01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:54,120 Speaker 2: they're so fragile. 2380 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,479 Speaker 3: Never crossed my mind. But would you say quarterbacks is 2381 01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,639 Speaker 3: the most common position drafted first overall? 2382 01:41:58,880 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 2383 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean those all those teams, were they 2384 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,720 Speaker 3: all they were all ready for that quarterback. No, but 2385 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,639 Speaker 3: even a chance at the you got to get the guy. 2386 01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,799 Speaker 6: But so let's just say you're not ready and whatever. 2387 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 6: I think we can all agree that the team is 2388 01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,280 Speaker 6: probably not poised to make a run at the title. 2389 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,760 Speaker 6: I don't think that's bigg the game ill of the 2390 01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:21,639 Speaker 6: current roster. But this notion that you ruin these guys, 2391 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 6: like there's a litany of quarterback Like, why do we 2392 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,280 Speaker 6: automatically assume when Zach Wilson gets taken with the second 2393 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,479 Speaker 6: overall pick the Jets ruined him. Why can't it just 2394 01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:36,479 Speaker 6: be that he wasn't that good? You know? When Jared 2395 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,360 Speaker 6: Goff went one overall to the Rams, one of the 2396 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,599 Speaker 6: worst teams that I've seen, right, one of the worst 2397 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 6: teams I've seen. He gets in the starting lineup about 2398 01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 6: halfway through the season. I don't know if you remember 2399 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:56,360 Speaker 6: the game for you probably don't. No, no, no, no, because 2400 01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,320 Speaker 6: it was no it was enough. I know, I know 2401 01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,400 Speaker 6: nothing about the game, like I'm saying, because it was 2402 01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 6: a meaning I want to say maybe twenty sixteen was 2403 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,160 Speaker 6: that year that he came out. It was a meaningless 2404 01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:11,960 Speaker 6: insignificant game among the back fred among the boring twelve 2405 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,200 Speaker 6: and four seasons that we have Poe credit, and he 2406 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,960 Speaker 6: just looked like a puppy in tallgrass, like he was 2407 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,519 Speaker 6: so overmatched. He went oh and seven as a starter, 2408 01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,000 Speaker 6: I think his rookie year. They ruined him. Oh except 2409 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,160 Speaker 6: but they didn't ruin them like he was pretty good 2410 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,800 Speaker 6: and as the team got better, he got a little 2411 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,479 Speaker 6: bit better. And I'm not telling you he's Patrick Mahomes now, 2412 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:35,080 Speaker 6: but he's fine. They didn't ruin him, like you don't 2413 01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,400 Speaker 6: have to take a guy who's going to fail right 2414 01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:41,679 Speaker 6: away and that means you ruined him. Like I understand 2415 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 6: that there's times where the team doesn't support the quarterback, 2416 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,160 Speaker 6: like Mac Jones. Can we just stop putting it all 2417 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,160 Speaker 6: in a team? Yeah? Can we give these guys some 2418 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 6: of the responsibility for their own career whether or not 2419 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:54,520 Speaker 6: they succeed. 2420 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,680 Speaker 3: Do you think that some of this, though, is just 2421 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,560 Speaker 3: kind of a reaction to what we've been kind of 2422 01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,120 Speaker 3: dealing with, specifically with the Patriots of the last couple 2423 01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:05,479 Speaker 3: of years and the constant couple of years right about 2424 01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,960 Speaker 3: not having the weapons, not having an you know, now 2425 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,120 Speaker 3: the protection has taken a bigger role than that. It's 2426 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,320 Speaker 3: just it feels a very specific Patriots thing to me, 2427 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:14,840 Speaker 3: because I don't think when you look at any of 2428 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,600 Speaker 3: these national guys, none of them are like they're not 2429 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:18,720 Speaker 3: ready yet. I mean, I at least not that I 2430 01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:19,040 Speaker 3: hear it. 2431 01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:24,040 Speaker 6: The pot that's a total national Yeah, I hear it. Yeah, 2432 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,559 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't understand it. I'm with you. I 2433 01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:27,439 Speaker 6: just think it. 2434 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,679 Speaker 10: I think that if you I get that it's lofty. 2435 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,360 Speaker 10: But if you hit the draft out of the park, 2436 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 10: a lot can change about what you think of the 2437 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,840 Speaker 10: team in six months from what we think about them now. 2438 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,759 Speaker 10: Like if you go into the draft and you draft 2439 01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,720 Speaker 10: Jayden Daniels and then you draft a receiver in the 2440 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,719 Speaker 10: second round and then attack and like, all of a sudden, 2441 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,800 Speaker 10: the receiver is also a star because it's a great 2442 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,879 Speaker 10: receiver class. And now you have a star quarter young quarterback, 2443 01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,120 Speaker 10: a star receiver. Now, all of a sudden, the offense 2444 01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,080 Speaker 10: looks a little bit better. I think the defense was 2445 01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,160 Speaker 10: already ready to compete last year. Like I just think 2446 01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,880 Speaker 10: that you you can't just look at it as like 2447 01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,479 Speaker 10: we're just adding the quarterback. 2448 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,920 Speaker 2: No, no, and your outlook can change. 2449 01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,920 Speaker 9: But they're all still rookies, and it's unlikely that you know, 2450 01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,840 Speaker 9: you're gonna see that worse the first type of thing. 2451 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:13,639 Speaker 6: You know, it's but you don't have to go worse 2452 01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,680 Speaker 6: the first to feel like you're gonna feel excitement. No, 2453 01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,720 Speaker 6: but you can feel totally differently about your personality. Yeah, 2454 01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,599 Speaker 6: in six months now you go back to that email. 2455 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,439 Speaker 6: We had a few emails back about all the guys 2456 01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,080 Speaker 6: who are up next year. Like if you all of 2457 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:28,840 Speaker 6: a sudden go out and you do what Evan said, 2458 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,280 Speaker 6: and you you know, you mildly like you know, what's 2459 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,639 Speaker 6: what's you know what's say you had a mild hit, 2460 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,960 Speaker 6: Like it's not like c. J. Stroud, we just won 2461 01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,000 Speaker 6: eleven games and went to the playoffs. But you know, 2462 01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,519 Speaker 6: but like you're pretty good right away. He's pretty good. 2463 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,559 Speaker 6: He's showing the ability and he's developing rapport with some 2464 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,960 Speaker 6: receiver who's pretty good. Maybe you take some of those 2465 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,320 Speaker 6: guys that you you know, well, maybe we don't need 2466 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,439 Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones. Oh, you were a little bit closer than 2467 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,559 Speaker 6: we thought. Maybe Jonathan Jones be a good, solid veteran 2468 01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,280 Speaker 6: cornerback just sort of lead that group back there. Let's 2469 01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,080 Speaker 6: get let's get him back here on a one year deal, 2470 01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:00,960 Speaker 6: pay a little bit more money. Then maybe we wanted 2471 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,160 Speaker 6: to to do that. That maybe if you don't have 2472 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 6: a quarterback, and you'll lose all these pieces and then 2473 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,240 Speaker 6: you're really starting over. Like I hear what. 2474 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,200 Speaker 10: People are saying about the roster, and the trade downs 2475 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 10: are intriguing when you see, oh, you could get three 2476 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,280 Speaker 10: first round picks from Minnesota two this year. But I 2477 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,360 Speaker 10: just I keep coming back to, so when are you 2478 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,919 Speaker 10: going to and how are you going to address the quarterback? 2479 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,439 Speaker 10: Because I understand that there could be one quarterback that 2480 01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,080 Speaker 10: comes out of nowhere next year, but that's one guy. 2481 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,280 Speaker 10: And if he goes one to one and you don't 2482 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 10: have the first overall pick, then we're right back into it. 2483 01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,640 Speaker 6: We're ready, we just don't have the right. Everybody immediately 2484 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,800 Speaker 6: hits back at you with, well, no one thought Jayden 2485 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,800 Speaker 6: Daniels was going to be a top five pick, and 2486 01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 6: no one thought Joe Burrow was going to be you know, 2487 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:48,360 Speaker 6: heading into that season. Yeah, it happens. How many of 2488 01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,639 Speaker 6: them you can't count on it, no, no, But I'm just saying, 2489 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:52,800 Speaker 6: how many of those got So let's just say there's 2490 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 6: a guy. Evan just said it. Guy comes out of 2491 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 6: nowhere and he's the guy. What if you're not in 2492 01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 6: a position to pick the guy right, you know, And 2493 01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:04,680 Speaker 6: let's face it, none of us wants to be in 2494 01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:06,439 Speaker 6: the position to take the guy. We don't want to 2495 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:07,800 Speaker 6: be picking one again next year. 2496 01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,519 Speaker 9: I just get the sense that some people think that 2497 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,400 Speaker 9: the Patriots can do whatever they want. They'll be able 2498 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,720 Speaker 9: to get If they don't get it this year, they'll 2499 01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,240 Speaker 9: be able to get a quarterback next year. 2500 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 2: There's thirty two other teams trying to improve every year, 2501 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,280 Speaker 2: and I would all looking at the same pool of players. 2502 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,479 Speaker 6: And if this is totally anecdotal, I don't have all 2503 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,479 Speaker 6: the numbers in front of me. You guys know that 2504 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,760 Speaker 6: I have done this in the past. I just don't 2505 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,920 Speaker 6: get the whole notion that it's way riskier to take 2506 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,840 Speaker 6: the quarterback than anybody else. There's like a laundry list 2507 01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 6: of guys that get overdrafted. Quarterbacks are high profile guys, 2508 01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,799 Speaker 6: and a lot of quarterbacks bust because they get picked. 2509 01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,040 Speaker 6: And I'll grant you that quarterbacks are probably more frequent 2510 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:50,840 Speaker 6: than the other spots, but there's a lot of guys 2511 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,080 Speaker 6: that get overdrafted at the other spots too, And I 2512 01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 6: don't know why, like the idea. If your thought process 2513 01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:00,720 Speaker 6: is I'm gonna take tackle wide receiver because they are safer, 2514 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,519 Speaker 6: then you're wrong. You're wrong. They're not really safer. There's 2515 01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:07,920 Speaker 6: just quarterbacks get overdrafted. There's no doubt about it. But 2516 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,479 Speaker 6: I don't think there's any safe pick to make. L 2517 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:12,839 Speaker 6: F otherwise everybody would. 2518 01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:13,200 Speaker 2: Make it right. 2519 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,240 Speaker 9: L for Wisconsin writes in I have a non draft 2520 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:20,439 Speaker 9: related PFW argument topic. What major sport do you think 2521 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,120 Speaker 9: is the easiest to go undefeated in? And which is 2522 01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 9: the hardest. Football has by far the fewest number of games, 2523 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 9: but I would think it is probably one of the 2524 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:28,559 Speaker 9: harder ones. 2525 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 2526 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,599 Speaker 6: I think it's probably one of the easier the big 2527 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,080 Speaker 6: four sports. What's hard the hardest to go undefeated? 2528 01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:35,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the one with the fewest games. 2529 01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,600 Speaker 6: It's football, Like, there's no other option, right, you're not 2530 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:39,360 Speaker 6: going to go eighty two. 2531 01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:44,200 Speaker 9: Now if you include NCAA basketball, you know teams can 2532 01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:45,280 Speaker 9: go undefeated there. 2533 01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,519 Speaker 2: You know you're playing thirty games or whatever. 2534 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,400 Speaker 6: And oh and say, yeah, that happens a lot of sports. 2535 01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 6: It hasn't happened since seventy six. But it happens, you know, 2536 01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,080 Speaker 6: But you can't go eighty two and oh or one 2537 01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 6: hundred and sixty two and. 2538 01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:02,640 Speaker 9: Oh no, I mean the Celtics went forty one and 2539 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:03,439 Speaker 9: one at home. 2540 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean basketball would be the closest you can 2541 01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:06,760 Speaker 3: maybe make. 2542 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,320 Speaker 6: The lost twenty games that year, right, Yeah, the. 2543 01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,800 Speaker 10: Warriors, was it seventy three and nine or seventy two 2544 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,640 Speaker 10: and ten or something like that's the best record of 2545 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,360 Speaker 10: all time, So they still lost nine games. 2546 01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:20,360 Speaker 9: It's football, Yeah, even though it doesn't happen a lot, 2547 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:21,559 Speaker 9: it's it's still. 2548 01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,360 Speaker 3: Football, and it's it's and it's I mean what you 2549 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,240 Speaker 3: like about bat I mean if basketball played the sixteen 2550 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,080 Speaker 3: game season, that will be it because it's five guys 2551 01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,240 Speaker 3: essentially that can you know, kind of dominate the game. 2552 01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 2: But you have now it's like we haven't happened all 2553 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:33,240 Speaker 2: the time before. 2554 01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,720 Speaker 3: Football is such an injury laden sport and you know 2555 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:38,400 Speaker 3: there's so many ups and downs from week to week. 2556 01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,679 Speaker 6: They should shorten the basketball season. 2557 01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 3: They should twelve games. 2558 01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,760 Speaker 6: Twelve games, shorten every season. I think I think that 2559 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:47,280 Speaker 6: including football, I think. 2560 01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:50,400 Speaker 10: Sixty five is the right is the right number for 2561 01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,840 Speaker 10: the NBA sixty five, sixty sixty. 2562 01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:56,720 Speaker 6: Five, somewhere in there Baseball one hundred and forty one. 2563 01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,760 Speaker 10: I don't need forty like it, even more like the 2564 01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 10: year for Baseball sixty fantastic, fantastic. 2565 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:09,559 Speaker 9: Brandon and Maine. I can't listen live, but your podcast 2566 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,960 Speaker 9: is by far the best and most entertaining of all 2567 01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:12,799 Speaker 9: Patriots coverage. 2568 01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:13,880 Speaker 2: I agreed, let's go. 2569 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 9: I come to you now for help, particularly from that 2570 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:21,120 Speaker 9: wanna be scout Evan Lazarre. I've been hoping for Drake 2571 01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,960 Speaker 9: May since around Week five, when it was clear how 2572 01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,920 Speaker 9: bad this team was going to be and that map 2573 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,519 Speaker 9: was not long for the team. The more Draft season 2574 01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,800 Speaker 9: has gone on, the more and more I have my 2575 01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,160 Speaker 9: heart set on May and the belief that he is 2576 01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,360 Speaker 9: exactly what we need. However, I am now convinced there 2577 01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 9: is no way he makes it past Washington at too. 2578 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,680 Speaker 9: I believe May is also the preference for all of you. 2579 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:46,599 Speaker 9: But now I ask you for help. Convince me that 2580 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,120 Speaker 9: when May is off the table, that Jaden Daniels is 2581 01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,919 Speaker 9: worthy of being our franchise quarterback. Can you get excited 2582 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,760 Speaker 9: for this? Can you convince me and many others to 2583 01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,439 Speaker 9: get excited about this? Can he be the guy in 2584 01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,080 Speaker 9: New England? 2585 01:50:58,320 --> 01:50:58,599 Speaker 6: Evan? 2586 01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:00,840 Speaker 9: What do you see that leads you to believe he 2587 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,400 Speaker 9: can succeed in the NFL. 2588 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,760 Speaker 3: I want to hear this because I'm kind of in 2589 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:05,599 Speaker 3: the same role, So he. 2590 01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,439 Speaker 10: Wants to want to be scouts opinion on it now? 2591 01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's why he went to you. 2592 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,360 Speaker 10: Do you like watching Lamar Jackson play? 2593 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:15,839 Speaker 3: I like how he's starting off. 2594 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,280 Speaker 2: Close? Okay, so you really think. 2595 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,439 Speaker 10: I don't think he'll be I'm not saying that he's 2596 01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 10: selling it to be that, but if you're telling me 2597 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,320 Speaker 10: what's the upside and what's the like, how do you 2598 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,679 Speaker 10: see him developing into the guy. 2599 01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 6: In the NFL? 2600 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:29,519 Speaker 3: That's it. 2601 01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:33,080 Speaker 10: It's Lamar Jackson, you know, Lamar Jackson. You know, look, 2602 01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,040 Speaker 10: I think he plays a little bit more like an 2603 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:38,320 Speaker 10: RG three than he does like a Lamar Jackson. But 2604 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,120 Speaker 10: that's going back always for some people, So I just 2605 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:42,160 Speaker 10: would stick with Lamar. 2606 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:43,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. 2607 01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:47,160 Speaker 10: Lamar made it work as really his legs being the 2608 01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:48,639 Speaker 10: dominant force. 2609 01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,800 Speaker 2: Of his So that's his upside, that's his his feeling. Yep. 2610 01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:58,400 Speaker 6: And then mahomes Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen Caleb Williams, Okay, 2611 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,439 Speaker 6: that's what I was going to ask. Ye, I agreed. 2612 01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:04,400 Speaker 6: Now that's up, like, yeah, ceiling if they hit their 2613 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:05,320 Speaker 6: ceilings right. 2614 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:10,759 Speaker 9: Right, Nate Chicago, how would you feel if we traded 2615 01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:12,920 Speaker 9: back with the Vikings for eleven to twenty three in 2616 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,439 Speaker 9: the future first and walked away with J. C. Latham, 2617 01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:18,320 Speaker 9: Michael Pennix and Xavier Laguette after two days? 2618 01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,080 Speaker 6: It's very specific, very good. 2619 01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,200 Speaker 3: I feel okay about two thirds of it. 2620 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,479 Speaker 10: Yeah, Latham's the right tackle Son. We run it into 2621 01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,639 Speaker 10: the whole issue of on winnu and this whole thing 2622 01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,400 Speaker 10: going around and around and again who's play but you 2623 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:35,120 Speaker 10: know he's a good player. I would be a little 2624 01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,519 Speaker 10: bit lukewarm on and overall though. 2625 01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 9: Here's a keep trade cut game summer football. Some aren't 2626 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:47,559 Speaker 9: so best running back wide receiver team duos of all time, 2627 01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:52,040 Speaker 9: so you can keep trade or cut topics. Calvin Johnson, 2628 01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:52,879 Speaker 9: Barry Sanders. 2629 01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,400 Speaker 6: That's one duo, Keep trade cut. 2630 01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:58,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, we didn't play together, so who is it? 2631 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:05,599 Speaker 9: He said, yeah, the only one. He's just matching. 2632 01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,880 Speaker 6: I thought they meant they actually played. Now they can, 2633 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:09,880 Speaker 6: So what's the first group? 2634 01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,280 Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders. That's one duo. 2635 01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:16,439 Speaker 9: Jerry Rice and Frank Gore is another duo, and Michael 2636 01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:17,679 Speaker 9: Irvin and Emmett Smith. 2637 01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:19,599 Speaker 10: But that's the only one that actually played together. 2638 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 2: I know. 2639 01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:21,639 Speaker 3: I'd go with the first one. 2640 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, me too. I think is the highest end talent. 2641 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,280 Speaker 2: So you keep them. 2642 01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:30,040 Speaker 9: Oh and I would cut Frank Gore Yeah and Frank 2643 01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:34,120 Speaker 9: or Yeah, Okay, I don't like this topic fan traditions. 2644 01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:35,559 Speaker 6: I would rank them one, two, three. 2645 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2646 01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,240 Speaker 6: Like I think the Sanders Johnson duo is the most talented. 2647 01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 6: I kind of agree with Evan. I like Frank Gore 2648 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,639 Speaker 6: a lot. I think he's a pros pro. I think 2649 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,000 Speaker 6: he's kind of a volumecumulator. 2650 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:52,759 Speaker 9: Uh, keep Trey cut. These are fan traditions. The Bill's 2651 01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:56,320 Speaker 9: Mafia tailgates, lambeau Leap or the Terrible Towel. 2652 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:58,800 Speaker 6: Oh, this one's better. 2653 01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this one better. 2654 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,920 Speaker 6: I don't say the Terrible Towel will be the first one. 2655 01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 6: Keep lambeau Leap would be the second one. And I 2656 01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,360 Speaker 6: agree with Evan, you can you can keep your shove 2657 01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,960 Speaker 6: it up your tailgate. I don't need to be lighting 2658 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:11,880 Speaker 6: myself on fire. 2659 01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:17,880 Speaker 9: Keep trade cut Pin and he's a football friend. Pin 2660 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,599 Speaker 9: and pull, hooking ladder, run and gun, pin and. 2661 01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,840 Speaker 6: Pull all day every time. I don't know what the 2662 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,120 Speaker 6: running gun is, but you mean the run and shoot 2663 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:28,160 Speaker 6: could be. 2664 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,880 Speaker 2: Some people might call it the running guns you under. 2665 01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:36,480 Speaker 6: Nobody ever called it running basketball more of a basketball term. 2666 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:37,000 Speaker 2: It's true. 2667 01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:40,080 Speaker 6: He's right. Evan's right again. He's having a strong show again. 2668 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:42,440 Speaker 2: Hook and want to be scouts? 2669 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:43,760 Speaker 6: You want to be scout? 2670 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,760 Speaker 2: All right? Keep trade, Cameron Williams, Keep trade. Cut. 2671 01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:50,720 Speaker 9: These are sports TV shows. Friday Night Lights, Ted Lasso 2672 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 9: or Blue Mountain State. 2673 01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,840 Speaker 10: Bloom Mountain Stake gets cut because that show is actually terrible. 2674 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,520 Speaker 6: You watch Friday Night Lights is one one Friday Night Lights. 2675 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,440 Speaker 10: It might be the best sports show of all times. 2676 01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:01,240 Speaker 6: Are so good? 2677 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:01,640 Speaker 2: Alright. 2678 01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:02,400 Speaker 6: The cast on that. 2679 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:08,160 Speaker 9: Show Rhode Island Delicacies, Dells Lemonade, Coffee Milk or Narrogast 2680 01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 9: Beer cut narroganst Beer would trade coffee milk, and I 2681 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:16,680 Speaker 9: would keep Dell's lemonade like. 2682 01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:19,600 Speaker 6: A bud light Show. 2683 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:24,160 Speaker 9: And finally Wanka candy. No one's ever had not the 2684 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:25,840 Speaker 9: real gob Stoppers. 2685 01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 2: Nerds or Laughy Taffy. 2686 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,440 Speaker 6: I mean, Nerds are by far the best. 2687 01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,320 Speaker 3: Cut laffy taffy, it sticks in your teeth. 2688 01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:35,440 Speaker 6: Agreed, I would go gob stoppers over those. Those are 2689 01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:36,400 Speaker 6: both nerds. 2690 01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,480 Speaker 10: Nerds Rope also fantastic. 2691 01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,720 Speaker 6: They're no surprise that the scout likes nerds. 2692 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:47,360 Speaker 3: Wow, that's what's your favorite? Strawberry? 2693 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:47,640 Speaker 6: And great? 2694 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,360 Speaker 3: I like get like the little box the double My 2695 01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:52,960 Speaker 3: kids got them and they couldn't figure out how to 2696 01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,440 Speaker 3: open it, and I felt like I failed it as 2697 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:55,960 Speaker 3: a dad like that, you can't, you know, like the 2698 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,400 Speaker 3: little slide out just ripped it. 2699 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 9: Gary says, here is why people think it's best not 2700 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,880 Speaker 9: to trade a quarterback this year. I'm not espousing this 2701 01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:09,880 Speaker 9: point of view, just explaining it. If you have a 2702 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:13,879 Speaker 9: porous o line, all the quarterback can develop is bad habits. 2703 01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,160 Speaker 9: We saw it happen with Mac Jones, so it's fresh 2704 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:17,120 Speaker 9: in everybody's mind. 2705 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,560 Speaker 6: Did Joe Burrow develop? That happened with Joe Burrow? If 2706 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,880 Speaker 6: the guy can play, he can play, right, That's all 2707 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like we put everything on everything around the guy. Like, Okay, 2708 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,800 Speaker 6: maybe you said he didn't get his potential maximized because 2709 01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:36,040 Speaker 6: he had a poor offensive line. Might be David Carr 2710 01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,760 Speaker 6: just stunk right, Oh, maybe David Carr. 2711 01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,720 Speaker 3: Just stump he didn't have two elite wide receivers. I mean, 2712 01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,000 Speaker 3: any team that's in position to draft these guys, they 2713 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:46,720 Speaker 3: probably have some major problems on offense, and you just 2714 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,000 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you can, oh, well, we had a 2715 01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:50,760 Speaker 3: chance to draft Peyton Manning, but our line is kind 2716 01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:52,480 Speaker 3: of bad. So let's let's wait till next year. 2717 01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,840 Speaker 10: And yeah, I could be totally wrong in this and 2718 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,640 Speaker 10: not this is probably a bigger discussion, but I am 2719 01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,400 Speaker 10: kind of getting the feeling that maybe they feel like 2720 01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,800 Speaker 10: they're better on the offensive line than everybody else does. 2721 01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:04,240 Speaker 3: Oh no, not that again. 2722 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,240 Speaker 6: I don't think question that they feel like they have 2723 01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 6: better top to bottom than everybody else. 2724 01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2725 01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,040 Speaker 10: I just feel like on the offensive line in particular, 2726 01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,760 Speaker 10: I feel like they think that they're gonna be schematically 2727 01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,600 Speaker 10: a lot different. That they're new quarterback isn't going to 2728 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,280 Speaker 10: just be sitting in the pocket all the time and 2729 01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:21,120 Speaker 10: ask throw. 2730 01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:23,360 Speaker 6: That's probably true, but I don't think they were asking 2731 01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,400 Speaker 6: Mac Jones to sit in the pocket for a long time. 2732 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,120 Speaker 10: No, I'm just saying, right, But I'm also just saying 2733 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:32,240 Speaker 10: I guess with the moving pockets, the bootlegs, the play 2734 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,880 Speaker 10: action passes, like I don't know. I think you're gonna they're 2735 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,280 Speaker 10: gonna want to be like a high volume, straight drop 2736 01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,120 Speaker 10: back team. 2737 01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:39,360 Speaker 6: Moving the pocket. I guess yeah. 2738 01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,280 Speaker 10: And then the other thing is is I think that 2739 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:44,040 Speaker 10: they like the coaching, like I think they think Peters 2740 01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,120 Speaker 10: and uh in a VP, and these guys are gonna 2741 01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:48,960 Speaker 10: be able to coach it a little bit better than 2742 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,040 Speaker 10: what frightens. 2743 01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:54,360 Speaker 6: Me about the the overall talent level on the offensive line. 2744 01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:55,760 Speaker 10: Like I'm not saying that it's they're not going to 2745 01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,480 Speaker 10: take a tackle at all. No, I don't know if 2746 01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,760 Speaker 10: they're looking at tackle as really in the conversation with 2747 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,000 Speaker 10: the third overall pick like Joe Walt is really in 2748 01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:07,640 Speaker 10: the conversation with that pick, I would doubt it. 2749 01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:11,320 Speaker 9: I agree Aj in the Bay Area, but from Providence, 2750 01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,720 Speaker 9: I'm tired of hearing about the Patriots not being ready 2751 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:15,920 Speaker 9: for the quarterback and that kicking the can down the 2752 01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:19,160 Speaker 9: road makes sense. They were arguably the second worst team 2753 01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:21,560 Speaker 9: in the league last season and still might have to 2754 01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 9: settle for the third choice of quarterbacks. When are they 2755 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,400 Speaker 9: going to be picking this high again? It's nonsense. Take 2756 01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:28,280 Speaker 9: the quarterback. 2757 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:28,800 Speaker 3: There you go. 2758 01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:30,840 Speaker 2: Love it all right. 2759 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,960 Speaker 9: That's going to be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. 2760 01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,920 Speaker 9: We'll be back tomorrow. Is there a draft show dropping? 2761 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,040 Speaker 3: There will be another draft show dropping tomorrow. Film review 2762 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,920 Speaker 3: of Drake May so you'll want to tune in. 2763 01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay, we like him all right. Talk to you on Thursday. 2764 01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:57,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. 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