1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:00,679 Speaker 1: Wow. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Wow, Hey everybody. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, June twenty fifth, twenty twenty four. Welcome 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast Work It's Hot Man, 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: Me and your man named g Marcus Grand joined by 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Michael f. Florio and La Kwan Jones. We're all back together. 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: It feels like it's been a while since we've been. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of yeah, I've kind of been on a 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 4: mini vacation I'm missing. 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: I mean, man, you know, I mean Florida was gone. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: The lakwan you were. How is Tampa by the way? 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 4: Was It was hot? It was hot and sticky and 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 4: like it rained for like thirty minutes, Like I forgot 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: that happens in Florida. And then you put your loud 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: shirt on and it's stuck to your body now and 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: it's like I did not pack appropriately. Let's just say that. 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: When when my family is like, how could you don't 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: want to come visit certainly, and I'm like, nah, I'll 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: come in like the winter. 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's there's. 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: Just someplace is in the country where like there's certain 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: times a year you just don't want to go. I mean, 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: my best friend lives in Arizona, and I will go 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: out there for spring training, and like I'm like, I 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: can visit you from like. 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: October to March. That's it. 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: Anything after after that then you got to come to 29 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Los Angeles to see me. 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Otherwise we're probably just not gonna hang out. That's all 31 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: there is. 32 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: It's even hot here. I mean it's hot. 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 3: It's hot everywhere, but like la hot, like it's been 34 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: like you know, like it's it's fine. Like where I am, 35 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: it's like eighty degrees, like it's it's hotter than it 36 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: has been, but it's not like hot, like. 37 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: I can deal with this. It's fine. We're just some 38 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: hype trainer smoke screen. 39 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: We're also going to talk about some crowded wide receiver 40 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: rooms and that sort of how we are approaching the 41 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: especially in redrafts if you like best ball, it's a 42 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: little bit different, but in redrafts, which redraft season is 43 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: coming around, we can talk about how we sort of 44 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: handle that. So let's dive in though. First some hype 45 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: train or smoke screen found three stories that you know, 46 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: seems sort of interesting, so we'll kind of get some 47 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: thoughts on these. 48 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Here. First reports out of Las veg Vegas. 49 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: Uh, this is per Jeremy Fowler at ESPN that h 50 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell quote probably has the slight edge over Gardner 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: Minshew in terms of the starting quarterback job for the 52 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: Raiders of Florio. Hype trainer smoke screen on Aidan O'Connell 53 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: and does this make you more or less likely to 54 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: want to draft a Raiders pass catcher? 55 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Less likely one thousand percent. I don't. I'm gonna say 56 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: hype train. I guess I expect Gardner Minshew to win 57 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: the job, but I do think this will be a 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: camp battle. I think they're gonna give AOC every opportunity 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I look at his numbers. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at his game lot first. I will fully 61 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: admit my brain just completely forgot that the Aidan O'Connell 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: Raiders dropped sixty three points against the Chargers last year. Uh, 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: that one is wild. But besides, even. 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: In that game, I was one of Brandon Staley fired 65 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: didn't last. Yes, for sure, he. 66 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Didn't throw for two fifty in that game. He had 67 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: one career game with over two hundred and fifty yards. 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: So I think this is a bad thing for Raiders 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: pass catchers. I think that Minshew at least has a 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: little bit more upside, even though I don't think there's 71 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: much there. I'm fading Devonte Adams hard. And I know 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: it might sound crazy, like he did show signs of 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: decline last year. His metrics all kind of were lower 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: than what they have been, and he had his normal volume. 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: He had one hundred and eighty targets and he still 76 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: just managed to be a low end wide receiver one. 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: So I think you're kind of drafting him at his ceiling. 78 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: The falloff might be happening, and I'd rather be a 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: year early than a year late in fading a guy 80 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: who still goes in the second round. So yeah, I'll 81 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: let other people take him. 82 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: I mean, lakwan for you if you are drafting a Raider, 83 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: if you are still in on Devonte Adams or Jacobe 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: Myers or whomever else, would you prefer AOC or do 85 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: you want the stash at quarterback? 86 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: Give me the stat man Minshew made it. I think 87 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: you get a little bit more out of him and 88 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: where you can stretch the field. He also gives you 89 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: the ability to extend the plays because he's a sneaky 90 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: rusher when the pocket closes down on him. So honestly, 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: he might pop up and put put up like three 92 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: hundred yards in a couple of games. He had three 93 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: last season. And then we talk about O'Connell last season 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: where he was this closed to getting three hundred yards. 95 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: He was at two ninety nine. But you know, I 96 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: think he's gonna be very limited in this offense of 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: how it plays. I mean, you appreciate, you know, DeVante 98 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: Adams coming out saying like he co signs it, you 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: know O'Connell that he likes him, and like you kind 100 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: of want to keep that chemistry between your best player 101 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: in the quarterback that he kind of believes can step up. 102 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: But honestly, I'm going to piggyback off that I think 103 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: Minshew wins the job. Honestly, at some point, I. 104 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: Think Minshew wins the job too. 105 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think we all sort of 106 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: had that expectation when they brought him in that they 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: were gonna give him at least every opportunity for the 108 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: starting job. 109 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: Now, somehow O'Connell wows. 110 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: Them in training camp, or Minshew's really really bad, then 111 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: maybe things change. But I'm looking and now, mind you 112 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: just keep in mind who the other Raider quarterbacks were. 113 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: Last year it was you know, Jimmy Garoppolo for a 114 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: handful of games. It was Brian Hoyer who got a 115 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: start for one game. 116 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: But last year with Aidan O'Connell, Adam's averaged about one 117 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: more reception per game. He averaged about three more targets 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: per game. Yardage was about the same. 119 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: And maybe and maybe that's the issue, right And he 120 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: had more targets, he had more yard he had more catches, 121 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 3: but he averaged about the same number of yards, about 122 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: the same number of touchdowns. So maybe maybe the idea 123 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: is that with Minshew there's a little bit of a 124 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: higher ceiling there. Yeah, I don't know, but I'm with 125 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: you Floria on that. I have not so far in 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: Bestball drafted a lot of Devonte Adams. There are just 127 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: too many question marks in Las Vegas for me right now. 128 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: The one thing I hold on to is that he 129 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: is still the number one target there and so I 130 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: think that volume sort of keeps him afloat. But where 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: you have to draft him right now in Bestball drafts, 132 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: which is probably the early second round, there are other 133 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: guys that I would feel a lot better about in 134 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: that situation. I just I you know, I love I 135 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: love Davonta, and I think it's funny too. Lakwan You 136 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: talk about him saying sort of the right things. He's 137 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: been very diplomatic about his time in Vegas, considering he 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: went there to partner up with his friend and former 139 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: college quarterback Derek Carr, and then a year into it, 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: Car gets shipped out, and now DeVante is sort of 141 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: like he sort of left the drift, just kind of 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: like floating around on his own there in Vegas. 143 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I mean, to his credit, he said 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: all the right things. Right. 145 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: He could be out here posting cryptics social media messages, right, 146 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he could be out here, like, you know, 147 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: dropping the enemy, speaks softly and carries a knife. 148 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: Right. 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: He could have been doing all of that traditional right, 150 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: But he has it. So I mean, I guess, you know, 151 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: let's let's give him kudos for something like that. In Pittsburgh, 152 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson quote has clearly been the better quarterback during 153 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: these Steelers off season. In fact, the Lakwani reports that 154 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: Justin Fields has not looked good at all. I still 155 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: think there's something left in the tank for Russell Wilson. 156 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Hype trainer smoke screen that he's one is going to 157 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: be the starting quarterback, but also that maybe there's still 158 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: something left. 159 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: Hype train man, because if you're looking for somebody that 160 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: can open up this offense, stretch the field, and this 161 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: guy still has the deep ball. Russell the last three 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: seasons Man twenty one touchdowns, only five interceptions. This is 163 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: something that you put in the notion of an offense 164 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: that's dying and desperately need, you know, George Pickens to 165 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: be unlocked. That's his affho to be able to use 166 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: him at his peak ability of being a guy that 167 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: you can target downfield, justin fields, he struggled the last 168 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: three seasons. When it comes to that deep ball. He's 169 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: not able to stretch the field. He's cool and fun 170 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: to look at, you know, when he's running out of 171 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: the pocket and getting a sixty yard run, but when 172 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: it comes to actual development quarterback decision making, it doesn't 173 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: look good. The dude has twelve touchdowns and ten interceptions 174 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: in the last three three seasons. On deep passes, Will 175 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson has doubled the touchdowns and less the interception. 176 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: So obviously Russell Wilson being the veteran that he is. 177 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: I think he still has it in the tank. It 178 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: was just a bad fit in Denver. 179 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everything in Denver was bad. I mean, 180 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: the bi wide receiver room was not great. Obviously the 181 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: fit was Sean Payton. 182 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Well, first, you know, Nathaniel Hackett situation was not great, 183 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: and then the fit was Sean Page. 184 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of started off so super toxic. 185 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: It was obviously a bad one. Yeah. 186 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: Peyton came in was basically like, I don't really want 187 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: you as my quarterback, and that sort of was apparent. 188 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: So he just was not a good situation. 189 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: You don't get your own office. 190 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but so I'll ask you if Floreal 191 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: similar to when I asked the Kwan, I think I 192 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: know the answer to this. But you know, if you 193 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: are out there and you're drafting George Pickens, if you're 194 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: drafting Pat Fryarmouth, do you prefer Russ to Justin Fields 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: in those situations? 196 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: I think you do, But I still personally want to 197 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: see Justin fields out there. I think for fantasy purposes, 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Justin Fields could be top five on the Steelers team, 199 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: Whereas I think Russell Wilson is a low NQB two. 200 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: He elevates the pass catchers more because he's more accurate. 201 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: But I think we're at the point with Russell Wilson 202 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: where he's good enough to lose with because I know, 203 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the numbers kind of look pretty and it looks like 204 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: he had a bounce back year last year, but he 205 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: doesn't run at all anymore. He's but he still takes 206 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: sacks at an extremely high rate, which is drive killers. 207 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Like he might not have the interceptions, but those sacks 208 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: that he's taking are ending drives the same exact way. 209 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: So Russell Wilson, I think it, and it's no surprise 210 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: to me at all that he's the one that looks 211 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: better in camp because on structure he is one hundred 212 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: percent the better quarterback than Justin Fields. But the game 213 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: isn't played on structure the whole time, so when things 214 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: start to break down, I think Justin Fields is the 215 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: better improviser. I think Justin Fields is the better big 216 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: play threat, and I think Justin Fields fits the Steelers 217 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a little bit better in the sense that they are 218 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: a team that wants to control the clock and let 219 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: their defense do a lot of its damage. So I 220 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: could see Justin Fields being a better fit potentially for 221 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, although I do expect Russell Wilson to get 222 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: the first crack, especially early in the year when it's 223 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: good weather and stuff like that. I do think Wilson 224 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: will look the part a little bit better, and he's 225 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: better for the pass catchers, like I said, because he's 226 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: more accurate. But I'm not gonna quit Justin Fields because 227 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: we know what he can be for fantasy purposes and 228 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: it is so much better than Russell Wilson. And if 229 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: you're the Steelers and you're sitting somewhere around five hundred 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: and in the middle of the year, I do think 231 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: you consider making a change because I think, come bad 232 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: weather at the end of the year, Justin Fields is 233 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: better to win with than Russell Wilson. 234 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: For this, yeah, I don't even know where to go. 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I think for fantasy obviously, we do like 236 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: Justin Fields because he's gonna run with the football and 237 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: that's what we love. As you mentioned, Russ doesn't run. 238 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: The deep ball has not been as effective the last 239 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: few years as it has been in the past. It 240 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: just you know, if the reports are true, and there's 241 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: no reason to believe they aren't Fields has not looked 242 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: good so far. Maybe things happen when they get to 243 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: official training camp, but it has been sort of rough 244 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: for him so far this summer. Last one here, the 245 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 3: Browns reportedly planning to open the season with Jerry Judy 246 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: in the slot and Amari Cooper and Cedric Tillman out wide. 247 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: So Forida, I mean high trender smokes me on this trio, 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: and what does that mean for Elijah Moore? 249 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Man, we're pouring one out for 250 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore. 251 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm I am. 252 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the middle on this one. Like, I don't 253 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: think Elijah Moore is gonna completely vanish and not get 254 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: his snaps anymore. I think Amari Cooper will be out 255 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: there every single play, and I could see the other 256 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: maybe these two are get the bulk of snaps. But 257 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see Judy 258 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: at times move out wide and Elijah Moore in the 259 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: slaughter Tillman get a breather and it's Elijah Moore playing 260 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: in the slot something like that, or Judy getting the breather, 261 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. So for me and I know 262 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna touch on this this receiving room a little 263 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: bit later. But it's a mari Cooper or Buss for me. 264 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: I mean, where else anybody else? Do you have an 265 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: interest in that room? Lakwan? Is it just a Mariy 266 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: Cooper or you maybe are willing to take a shot 267 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: on somebody. 268 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: Uh, I guess Judy because it's not like he's expensive 269 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: right now, and him going to the slot isn't anything new. 270 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: He spent most of his time in the slot last season, 271 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: and he showed to be a great target separator as well. 272 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: And I think Deshaun Watson needs all the easy, you know, 273 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: layups he can get for guys that can get open 274 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: and kind of be effective. And I think you know 275 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 4: that three point nine target rate was tied first with 276 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase and Rashid Rice out of the slot. So 277 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: he's a very effective route runner. 278 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: So he's cheap. 279 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: He's in the new, maybe happier situation, I would say, 280 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: because he was not connecting well with Russell Wilson and 281 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: he kind of was like openly putting the blame on him. 282 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: So hopefully him and Deshaul Watson you get something going. 283 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: But he will be the only one I would like 284 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: take the shot on being that he's not too expensive. 285 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: Jerry Juda made me feel old, so I'll never draft 286 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: him again. 287 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: I still can't believe that, man. 288 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: I I mean like when he said and told Flora 289 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: and I that, you know, like doctor Dre and Snoop 290 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 3: Dogg were like, you know, like that's you know, Jindrick Lamar. 291 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he knows who Kendrick Lamar is now. 292 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's been hard to avoid anyway. But no, 293 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: I look, I've draft I'll drafted Mary Cooper, I'm in 294 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: on David and Joku's still yes, those are the only. 295 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why, but all right. 296 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: Because I think it's because people aren't sure about Deshaun Watson. 297 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: I mean I think it's I think it's purely the 298 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: quarterback there. And because you look at what in Joku 299 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: did last year, most of that was with Joe Flacco. 300 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 3: Yeahs you know, so I think I think everybody's just 301 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: you know, out on Deshaun Watson, or at least very 302 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: cautious about Deshaun Watson. 303 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I. 304 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Just pulled it up real quick. The last two seasons 305 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: eight point eight points per game with Watson for Endjoku 306 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: almost thirteen. With all other quarterbacks. He had ten ends 307 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: on targets last year, most amongst tight ends. One of 308 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: them came from Deshaun Watts. 309 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, not to say, yeah, that's insane. I would take 310 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: a break. 311 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: We'll come back and speaking of the Browns, we'll talk 312 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: about some crowded wide receiver rooms. 313 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 314 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: All right, so obviously best Ball draft season is going on, 315 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: Redraft season is about to start. In fact, I've gotten 316 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure you probably have as well, gotten some notifications 317 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: in your email in box about leagues reforming, reconstitute and 318 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: uh you know, maybe even getting some text messages about 319 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: trying to set up dates for drafts. I'll say this, 320 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: I can't think of the last time in the last 321 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: few years where I did a draft, like for a 322 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: redraft league. Well, I was able to just sit down 323 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: at my computer and do the draft. Like it feels 324 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: like every time I'm drafting it's like I'm doing something 325 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: with the kid, I'm making dinner. Uh, Like you know, 326 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: I don't use that as an excuse, but like, I 327 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: can't tell you the last time I just sat down 328 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: in front of the computer and had like an hour 329 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: hour and a half uninterrupted to just do a draft. 330 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: In fact, life is very different when you have kids. 331 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: Apparently it is because I do that regularly. 332 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: No, man, I look, I was. 333 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: I was at Disneyland recently and like was doing We 334 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: were in line for Dumbo and like, I have my 335 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: phone out and my wife looks over. She's like, are 336 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: you doing a draft right now? I'm like, it's a 337 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: slow draft. It's the best I was like, never mind, 338 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: that's my life now. Anyway, the whole point of that 339 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: preamble was that there's a lot of wide receiver situations 340 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: that have some question marks, and you know, we've gotta 341 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: talked about this. In the context of best Ball and 342 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: Bestball you can sort of take more chances because you 343 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: don't have to worry about setting a lineup on a 344 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: week two basis. But in redraft leagues you do have 345 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: to make that choice, and so you're basically putting a 346 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: bet on a wide receiver to be a guy that 347 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: you feel confident you can put into your lineups consistently. 348 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: So Flurida, I'll start with you, and when you're looking 349 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: at redrafts, what is your approach to crowded wide receiver rooms. 350 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: Is it as simple as I just want the guy 351 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: who's cheapest or is there more to it? 352 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: It always depends on the ADPs as well. I do 353 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: try to look at every player from an individual standpoint, like, yes, 354 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: this guy could be the cheapest, but is he the 355 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: cheapest because he's just the worst, or are they all 356 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of closed? So I do look at a I 357 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: think you always have to look at each player in 358 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: an individual lens, but it often to me comes down 359 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: to the ADP. Like we're gonna talk about the Texans 360 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: those guys that's a situation, or the Chiefs are is 361 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: another good example, like you need to pick which one 362 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: of those three or four guys that you want to 363 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: get because you're not gonna be able to get more 364 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: than one of them, or you're not there's really not 365 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: a point where you're like, I can wait two rounds 366 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: to get them because they all go so jumbled up together. 367 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: But if it's a situation where there's like a huge 368 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: gap between a couple of them, then I think that's 369 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: where cost starts to come into play. But for me, 370 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: it's always do I I think that this player has 371 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: the upside to potentially change my team. That's always what 372 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking once I get out of like the fourth 373 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: round or so. 374 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: All right, okay, so so going through that, I got 375 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: a list of teams here. Uh, you mentioned one of 376 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: the chiefs. I didn't throw them in there. Maybe we'll 377 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: throw them in there too, real quick. 378 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: But who do you want at ADP? And has anyone 379 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: gotten too expensive here? 380 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: So I'll start with you Lakwan with the Browns as 381 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: we talked about them just before the break. 382 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, Uh, forty one point seven is his ADP 383 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 2: right now? 384 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: In my mind, you these are best ball ADPs because 385 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: that's sort of all we have to go on at 386 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: this point. Jerry Judy at one twenty five, Elijah Moore 387 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 3: at two thirteen, Cedric Tillman at two fifteen and a half. 388 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: I would think that's going to go up if these 389 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: reports about him, you know, being uh one of the 390 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: starters is accurate. But of those four guys at ADP, 391 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: I think you sort of touched on it. But is 392 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: anybody too expensive year or anybody that you're really targeting 393 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: because of that ADP? 394 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: Uh, you can give me a Mari Cooper. I mean 395 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 4: in the last thirty days, his ADP has jumped up 396 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: ten spots. I mean, everybody's catching on to the wave now, 397 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: but I'm still grabbing him because he honestly, in my 398 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: building strategy, how I've been approaching these best balls and 399 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: how I'm going to approach these redrafts is going wide 400 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: receiver heavy. He's likely my wide receiver three in most 401 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: cases of like when I'm building my roster, because we 402 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: know he's the alpha. He know he's going to be 403 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: the target hag. He's going to be leading the team 404 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: in all major categories. So his status is in stone 405 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: regardless if it's Watcher or whoever else then hopefully it's one. 406 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: We'll get to that later, but anyway, I just feel 407 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: as though, like Cooper, he just makes your wide receiver 408 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 4: corps looks so much stronger when he's your wide receiver three, 409 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: Like it doesn't matter who you really go in those 410 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: early rounds with if you get the appropriate you know, 411 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: ADP guys, and I feel like, you know, he's been 412 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: a top twenty wide receiver in back to back seasons, 413 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: and we're talking about the Shawn Watson who has not 414 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: looked good, who's played twelve games in the last two seasons, 415 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: but he's paid one hundred million, almost one hundred million. 416 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: But it's like Amari Cooper has always remained reliable with that, 417 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 4: so you can go ahead and sign me up for him. 418 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: I mean he's a price too high at forty one 419 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: point seven Florio No. 420 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper has long been one of my guys and 421 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: that's not changing this year. A lot like what LQ said, 422 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I think he gets overlooked and you could say he's inconsistent, 423 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: but when he's your wide receiver three, and just like LQ, 424 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: that's often my build where I have him and I 425 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: had him in multiple leagues last year as the wide 426 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: receiver three. I'm not saying you want your wide receiver 427 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: three to be inconsistent, but you can live with the 428 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: down weeks when the upside is forty five points, Like 429 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: remember what he did in the Fantasy Playoffs, Slash I 430 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: do because I sat him for step Diggs in that 431 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live league and cost me the championship. But he 432 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: was awesome. And when you could deal with that inconsistencies 433 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: when you have two other wide receivers that you feel 434 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: really good about and you're taking those guys early, so 435 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel good about him. Five of the last 436 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: six seasons he's been a top twenty wide receiver and 437 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: total points and top twenty four points per game. So 438 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: you're taking him around his floor, and look, I know 439 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: we can all poop poo on Deshaun Watson all we want. 440 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: If this guy gets and figures it out at all, 441 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: there is some untapped potential there, and that only helps 442 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper in my opinion. So that's why I said 443 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: with the Browns receivers, it's kind of Cooper or bust 444 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: for me. I don't want to trust Jerry Judy with 445 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: a Mari with Deshaun Watson, but Cooper is so good 446 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: and so proven that I think you can. 447 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: All right, So we go from Cleveland to Cincinnati. 448 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase ADP of four point one, No surprise there, 449 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: Te Higgins at thirty five point six. Jermaine Burton had 450 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 3: won fifty one and a half. I know we all 451 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 3: sort of liked Jermaine Burton. So I'll just ask you, 452 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: Florio T Higgins, how do you feel about that? ADP 453 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: at thirty five right now? 454 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: I love it. 455 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: I think all three of these guys are people that 456 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: you should be targeting at costs right now because I 457 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: know last year was it was kind of a lost 458 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: season for T Higgins, but the year prior to that 459 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: in points per game, he was wide receiver twenty. The 460 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: year before that, he was wide receiver thirteen. We know 461 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: that this guy can be a high end wide receiver 462 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: two and give us wide receiver one weeks and I 463 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: think it was Heath Cummings posted that he gave T 464 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: Higgins a one percent target share increase in his projections 465 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: and he went from wide receiver twenty seven to fifteen. 466 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: I think it just shows how jumbled up those wide 467 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: receiver two who's are And if I could get this 468 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: guy as a wide receiver three, knowing that his floor, 469 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, is a wide receiver two and 470 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: his ceiling is borderline wide receiver one, I'm all about it. 471 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: So I don't shy away from taking any of the 472 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Bengals wide receivers at costs. 473 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: Could you make a case, LaQuan that Jamar Chase is 474 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: undervalued at four point one. I know that's a weird 475 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: thing to say. Uh No, I think it's just ray. 476 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think some people are a little bit hesitant 477 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: because his status and performance doesn't solely depend on Joe 478 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: Burrow's health. But that's kind of why he's sitting in 479 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: at that four spot. But I'll take him all day 480 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 4: long there. I honestly feels like I sleep better at 481 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: night no when I have one of the lague wide receivers, 482 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: like I'm good. But I also like T Higgins as well, 483 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 4: and that ADP is juicy right there in that fourth 484 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: round because he has shown to be able to coexist 485 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: with Jamar Chase and still put up elite numbers. And 486 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 4: you're also looking at last season when Joe Burrow went down, 487 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 4: he actually averaged more Fantasy points per game with Jake 488 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 4: Browning than Jamar Chase did, and they obviously took a 489 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: huge hit in the touchdown department. But T Higgins gives 490 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: you a solid floor and a reliable target. 491 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: You know. 492 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: I feel as though that he got banged up last season, 493 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: let's just kind of not forget about it, but kind 494 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: of put it to the side and understand he's still 495 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 4: a solid wide receiver too. 496 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: I've been visioning l oh I got. 497 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: Whatever Houston sexans, which maybe has been the most confounding 498 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: one of them all. 499 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean the quanta will start. 500 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: I will keep it with you here Nico Collins in 501 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: nineteen point four, it's Stefan Diggs at thirty point three, 502 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: Tank doll at thirty five point six. 503 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: Who are you planting your flag with him? Because this 504 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: is the one I think maybe that everybody has the 505 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: most debates over. I don't know what the term is, 506 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, where are you going here? 507 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 4: It's literally weak the week with me, like last week, 508 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: I love to get tanked out, and then the week 509 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: before that is Nico Collins. But I'm starting to think 510 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: that Stefon Diggs might be the same safer option here 511 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 4: because regression has to kick in for Nico. And then 512 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: there's obviously the risk with Tank Dell being that needs 513 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: a smaller wide receiver. He's banged up last season and 514 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: then off season, you know, fifty cent many men, and 515 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, I'm just like thinking about, like, 516 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: maybe I should just go Stefon Diggs here as my 517 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: wide receiver two or three or wherever I can get him, 518 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: because I feel as though he will play a huge role. 519 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: They went out and got him, They'll play a huge 520 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: role in this Texans offensive. For the success of the 521 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: c J strout. I just feel as though Nico Collins 522 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: in the first twenty picks, I love him, but I 523 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: don't like that. So therefore I'm just gonna pivot to 524 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 4: the safer option if I do want a piece of 525 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 4: this wide receiver corps. 526 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: Nico Collins at nineteen feels really rich. 527 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels nasty. I don't know. 528 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, can you. 529 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: Make the case for him a nineteen or is it 530 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: just better just pivot to one of the other guys 531 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: at that point? 532 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: No, I think I could make the case. I could 533 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: make the case for all three of these guys if 534 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: he really wanted me to. Nico Collins to me, I 535 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: think he is the mix of safest floor and highest upside, because, like, 536 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: if these guys bottom out and hit their floor, Nico 537 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: Collins is the one that I still feel like is 538 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: someone that would be useful weekly because he's a good 539 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: deep threat, He's a good yak guy, He's good in 540 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: the red zone. He could be used in a number 541 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: of different ways. I did yesterday look and the seven 542 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: games where Tank Dell and Nico Collins were healthy and 543 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: playing at least half the snaps, they were separated by 544 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: point one PPR points, not including rushing numbers and fumbles 545 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but just catches yards, touchdowns, point 546 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: one fantasy point apart. And so when I did this, 547 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: my original thinking was like, Okay, maybe Tank Dell is 548 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: the best value because he's the cheapest of the three 549 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: of them. But then I'm like, I know, Steph Diggs 550 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: is getting up there in age and he's slow, like 551 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: slowed down in the second half of last year. But 552 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: there was numerous times where he was opened downfield and 553 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Josh Challenge didn't connect with him. And then there was 554 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: some times where he was open downfield and he let 555 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: the ball go through his hands. So if he catches 556 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: those long passes, We're talking about Steph Diggs being in 557 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: a very different light right now. So because of that, 558 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: because I'm just like Lakwan, like, to me, this is 559 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: the biggest conundrum of the offseason. Every day or week 560 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: I feel confident about a different one. I know part 561 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: of my brain is like spread it out, take a 562 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: couple of shares of each, and then the other part 563 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: of me is like, just avoid it altogether. And I 564 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: know that might sound crazy, because it's gonna be one 565 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: of the better offenses in football, But I don't know 566 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: if it's gonna be so weak to weak and we're 567 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: trying to like last year was okay Man teams you 568 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: play Colins zone teams you played, or vice versa zone 569 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: you play Collins Man, you play Dell. But now Diggs 570 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: is in the middt. It's just confusing to me. So 571 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure which direction I feel most confident 572 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: going in. 573 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: This is really, more than anything solidified my stance that 574 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: this is going to be Stefan Diggs's Thanos year. 575 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: I just I just think so. And at thirty, you know, 576 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: right around pick thirty or so, I'm okay with taking 577 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: that shot because chances are he's my wide receiver to 578 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: maybe even three depending on how I've made my roster. 579 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm just that's that's swirling. I can't 580 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: really get down with Nico Collins at nineteen. I just 581 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: I think you can get similar production around or two 582 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: later from the TV. 583 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: The only reason I could see it for Nico is 584 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: if they're all getting so much volume, a similar volume, 585 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: he's him and Dell are going to be the field stretchers, 586 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: so they'll make up for lack of volume whereas if 587 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Diggs isn't getting that deep ball, he'll be a safe 588 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: floor guy, but I don't know if he'll have the spikes. 589 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, the ultimate answer is c J shrout, ladies and gentlemen. 590 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: So just draft CJ Show if you want a piece 591 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: of that offense. 592 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: That is the answer. 593 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: Like, are you guys taking the forty nine ers guys 594 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: at cost? 595 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 4: I think I am debo, I'm ayyuk, Yeah, dibo, I'm 596 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: not too sure right now. 597 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: So for me and I would add Kittlin Like I 598 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: for a while have avoid like I've been taking the 599 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: quarterback but not the receivers, and it you know, you're 600 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: leaving a ton of production on the board. But that's 601 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of now how I'm viewing these Texans guys like 602 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: I might just let someone else deal. 603 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: With the headache. Yeah, I get that. I totally understand 604 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: that too. I take a break. 605 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: We got a few more to dive into, diving into 606 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: these crowded wide receiver rooms. Stick around for more on 607 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So we are looking at 608 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: wide receiver rooms that have a whole lot of options 609 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: and how we are approaching them. This is more from 610 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: a redraft perspective than from a best ball. We just 611 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: talked about the Texans. Now we'll talk about the Packers, 612 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: who I've had some people described to me the Packer 613 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: wide receiver room is sort of the Texans wide receiver room, 614 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: but at a cheaper cost. When you look at Jayden 615 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: Reid at fifty five point three, Christian Watson seventy five 616 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: point five, Romeo Dubbs at one oh four point one, 617 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: Dantavian Wicks at one twenty three point three, LaQuan, which 618 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: of these guys do you most. 619 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: Want at ADP? And is anybody overvalued. 620 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: Here at ADP? Man I love grabbing Jayden Reid. He 621 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: is the what do we call it the Wisconsin deb Debo? 622 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: There you go. 623 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: I'll take him because he's giving you the most opportunities 624 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: for fantasy points on Sundays. I mean he could be 625 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: a d threat. You could use him close to the 626 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage where he's able to create after to catch. 627 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: He can also be a runner. I mean look at 628 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: him as a runner. Six out of eleven rushes he 629 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: had last season went over ten yards. He scored on 630 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: two of them. So he's going to be giving you 631 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 4: the best chance in each and every week to be 632 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: a guy that could be utilized all over this offense. 633 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: And you see the connection he has with Jordan Love 634 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: and it's very positive. So give me Jayden Reid as 635 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: my wide receiver three or flex. 636 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: And where are you playing your flag here in Green Bay, 637 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: Florio Jayden Reid? 638 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that I was last year. He was the Packers 639 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver that I wanted most at cost, and I'm 640 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: sticking with that because I believe his versatility will keep 641 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: him on the field. Like I know that there's a 642 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: lot of talk of like who's gonna be the odd 643 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: man out of these four when they're in three wide 644 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: receiver sets or even when they're in two wide receiver sets, 645 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: I feel confident that it's Jaden Reid and then it's 646 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: the others competing for volume there because, like Lakwama was saying, 647 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: not only the dual threat capability and everything, but he 648 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: really the more he got playing time down the stretch 649 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: last year, showed that he can be a big target earner. 650 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: From a week twelve on eight targets, then five, then ten, 651 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: then eight, then eight and then four in the last game. 652 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: But I remember that last game very vividly he came 653 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: out of the game early because of injury and stuff 654 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: like that, so he still at one hundred and twelve yards. 655 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: He's just to me the safest of the group. And 656 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: I know, like I've said, for best ball, I'll take 657 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: a shot on Christian Watson, but for redraft, it's going 658 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: to be far too inconsistent. Romeo Dobbs is what I 659 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: consider one of the worst investments fantasy football, because he's 660 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: good enough to keep on your roster, but you're not 661 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna really want to start him most weeks, and then 662 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: that just takes up a spot on your bench where 663 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: you could be chasing more upside. Wicks is cheap and 664 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: has upside, but I'm not confident he's gonna get enough 665 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: playing time. So for me, I'll take read and redraft 666 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: and I'll let other people take the rest. 667 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: I went through a week or two where I was 668 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: like on the Dantavian Wicks train. I'm not like off 669 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: of it, but you know, that was just kind of 670 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: a fever dream for a few days. I am becoming 671 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: more and more convinced that what we saw out of 672 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: Christian Watson in that first year was more a product 673 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: of Aaron Rodgers and that. Look, I don't expect Watson 674 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: to just fall off a cliff and be terrible, But 675 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: I think if we're asking him to replicate what he 676 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: did in that first season, I don't think it's gonna 677 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: be possible. I think circumstances and the quarterbacks sort of 678 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: led to that. I think Jordan Love's gonna spread the 679 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: ball around. 680 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw that last year, and I just don't 681 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: know that that Watson is gonna put up those sort 682 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: of numbers that we saw from him in that first season. 683 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: The Chiefs. 684 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: You touched on those earlier in the show, Florio, but 685 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: you got Hollywood Brown at fifty one, Xavier Worthy at 686 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: sixty two, or she Rice at seventy one point eight. 687 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: This is an interesting one as well. I've made my 688 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: feelings on her she Rice well known. I won't go 689 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: over that again. But of those three, Floria, which one 690 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: do you most want? 691 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: These are three guys that I've backed all three of 692 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: them in the past. Like I was Big Unworthy in 693 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: the draft, I liked ra she Rice last year, and 694 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: I loved Hollywood Brown when he came out. I'm gonna 695 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: go with Hollywood Brown though, and parts of it is 696 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: because I think the last two seasons, not getting to 697 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: play with Kyler Murray for the full season and stuff 698 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: like that has really hurt his numbers. But he is 699 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: so explosive and is going to be the field stretcher 700 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion for this team. Patrick Mahomes is the 701 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: best quarterback he's ever played with, even though he's played 702 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: with Lamar and bits of Kyler. 703 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: I just think the I think he's. 704 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Gonna especially early on at the start of the year, 705 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: he's going to be getting a bunch of snaps. But 706 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: I like Rashid Rice at cost because I think you're 707 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: getting the discount already baked into him, Like if he 708 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: stays healthy, if the suspension isn't like half the year 709 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: or whatever, I feel confident he can outlive that. Seventy 710 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: two ADP Xavier Worthy to me is like an upside role. 711 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: But the floor is the lowest of the three. I 712 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: would say so because of that, I like going Hollywood Brown, 713 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: but I don't really dislike any of the three at cost. 714 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: Last one here the Jaguars. 715 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: Christian Kirk forty three point eight, Brian Thomas seventy one 716 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: point one, Gabe Davis one thirty one point seven lakwan I. 717 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Last year, I would look at the Jaguars. 718 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know which one I'm gonna 719 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: just take Trevor Lawrence instead this year. Is there a 720 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: more defined hierarchy? Is there a guy that you like 721 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: more than the others in Jacksonville? 722 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, man. 723 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: We gotta go with what we know. Christian Kirk, he's 724 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: the captain there. I mean, you look at Trevor Lawrence 725 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: since twenty twenty one and his second most attempts to 726 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: the slot, and you got to look at this guy 727 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: as one of the elite separators. He is such a 728 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 4: great route runner, he's a reliable receiver, and you look 729 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: at before he got injured last season, he led the 730 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 4: team in sixty nine point two yards yards per game. 731 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: So he's obviously Trevor Lawrence's go to his safe blanket. 732 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: He was second on the team in receptions behind Ingram, 733 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: who also spends time in the slot. So he's one 734 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: of those guys that you could just bank on, like, 735 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: all right, this guy's going to get targets, this guy's 736 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: going to get the yardage, and he has the ability 737 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: to create out there to catch as well. So I'm 738 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: not going to be trying to take any shots on 739 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: a Brian Thomas junior, which is ADP right now, I'm 740 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 4: not liking it's in that sixth round area where it's like, ugh, 741 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: we don't know anything yet, you know, so just go 742 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: with Christian Kirk and just go with what you know. 743 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: Remember when we all laughed at the Jaguars signing Christian 744 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: Kirk took a big contract. 745 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: Everybody's like that. 746 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: I didn't, No, I mean like I was just kind 747 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: of like, I've been kind of excited when he's at it. 748 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: It's worked out like I'm not. 749 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, every he worth every penny. 750 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: Man he has been. He has been outstanding for the 751 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: Jaguars so far of the season. So we'll see how 752 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: it goes. I'll ask you, Flack, are you back in 753 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: on Trevor Lawrence this year? 754 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Uh? Where he's going right now is like a low 755 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: NQB two. Yeah, But I'm not like super like, he's 756 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: never averaged eighteen fantasy points per game in a season. 757 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: I understand the weapons are nice and he's a very 758 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: sneaky runner near the goal line, but he I think 759 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: he's appropriately valued. 760 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: All right, I would say that I've drafted him a 761 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: ton in best ball. I'm not sure if I'm gonna 762 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: get to him in redraft leagues. Just just sort of curious. 763 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: There. 764 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: There you go. That's our our look at some crowded 765 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 2: wide receiver rooms. 766 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: Will be back with you for another show tomorrow, and 767 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: plus he got the cheat sheet coming for you on Thursday. 768 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 2: As well, so you should be sure to stay tuned 769 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: for that. 770 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: In the meantime that I'll do it for this edition 771 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So happy to say 772 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: even healthy, do good and live well and uh yeah, 773 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 3: I guess we'll talk to you tomorrow. 774 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: M