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Speaker 2: He won five World Championships. He works for the Yes
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Speaker 2: been watching baseball and reading about baseball, and I forgot
Speaker 2: about Aaron Judge. And I looked at the numbers. His
Speaker 2: April is mind blowing and like it's Barry Bonzian. And
Speaker 2: I said to Fritzie, I said, see if David conell
Speaker 2: join us, just to put this in perspective, and Cony
Speaker 2: joins us down, you get to see this on a
Speaker 2: Hailey basis here What exactly did Aaron Judge do in
Speaker 2: the month of April.
Speaker 4: Well, Dan, thanks for having me on again. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 4: I got my time zones mixed up Central East Coast,
Speaker 4: you know, ten o'clock, eleven o'clock, but you know the
Speaker 4: Dyton We'll leave that where it is. But you know,
Speaker 4: watching Aaron Judge since the day he showed up, I
Speaker 4: was in the booth with Joe Tory actually and Paul O'Neill.
Speaker 4: On his major league debut, he had a massive home
Speaker 4: run off the center field restaurant, the black glass up
Speaker 4: in the Yankee Stadium. We couldn't believe what we're seeing.
Speaker 4: And then over the years we said, well, yeah, tremendous power.
Speaker 4: Strikes out a little too much. He struck out about
Speaker 4: forty percent of the time on average when he first
Speaker 4: broke in. Now it's in half. He's cut that in half.
Speaker 4: He's only striking out twenty percent of the time now
Speaker 4: and his batting average is over four hundred. The power
Speaker 4: is still there. He's such a smart hitter, Dan, he's
Speaker 4: chasing less than ever. You can't get him to chase
Speaker 4: those breaking balls out of the zone anymore. He's hitting
Speaker 4: for a high average. It's just it seems to me
Speaker 4: that the only way you can talk about Aaron Judges
Speaker 4: talk about how smart he is as a hitter. He
Speaker 4: anticipates a flow better than ever. He knows how you're
Speaker 4: gonna pitch him, and he's on you. He knows you,
Speaker 4: he reads you, and he's getting better and better and
Speaker 4: better every year to where now he's only striking out,
Speaker 4: as I said, about twenty percent of the time. Major
Speaker 4: League baseball average is about twenty two percent. He's below
Speaker 4: average striking out now and still hitting four hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty foot home runs, but.
Speaker 3: He has a bigger strike zone.
Speaker 2: I think eight years ago everybody talked about is that
Speaker 2: swing going to hold up?
Speaker 3: You know, big guy, long swing. But it has held up.
Speaker 2: But you, as a former cy Young winner and you
Speaker 2: win five World Series titles, I want you to You're
Speaker 2: gonna face Aaron Judge right now. So first inning he
Speaker 2: comes to the plate, how do you start Aaron Judge.
Speaker 4: Well, he does swing at enough first pitch fastballs to
Speaker 4: where that kind of scares me a little bit. You know,
Speaker 4: even though he's very selective. Now he gets a ton
Speaker 4: of walks he doesn't chase, but he's still ready aggressively
Speaker 4: for that first pitch fastball. So Dan, I'm still I'm
Speaker 4: trying to get ahead of him. I'm trying to sort
Speaker 4: of get ahead with a breaking ball because a lot
Speaker 4: of times he'll spot you that. So if you can
Speaker 4: drop a curve ball in there for the first Drinke,
Speaker 4: then you've got count leverage. And now maybe I'll try
Speaker 4: to bust him up and in out of the zone.
Speaker 4: But everything I'm throwing him is around the edges and
Speaker 4: up in the zone. I still think, you know, you
Speaker 4: try to get him up and in. Any great hitter,
Speaker 4: if it was Barry Bonds, if it was bay Rufe
Speaker 4: for that matter, I've got to test them up and
Speaker 4: end to see if they'll chase, to see if they
Speaker 4: can hit a fastball right on the upper right quadrant,
Speaker 4: upper inside corner. And then once I find that out,
Speaker 4: then I'm back to trying to throw breaking balls. But
Speaker 4: that's where he's been so impressive. He does not chase.
Speaker 4: The fish aren't biting Baron Judge this year is just
Speaker 4: his chase rate is top five. He just does not
Speaker 4: does not chase breaking balls out of the zone.
Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna face Sho Tani.
Speaker 4: What are you doing the same thing? You know, I've
Speaker 4: got to try to get ahead somehow because he's very
Speaker 4: aggressive from the first pitch on. And I were to
Speaker 4: give any advice to any slugger out there, I would say,
Speaker 4: be ready on the first pitch. If you're gonna spot
Speaker 4: me a strike, then I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get a lot of the plate if I think that
Speaker 4: you're gonna, you know, not swing. That's how I face
Speaker 4: Mike Piazza in the two thousand World Series. I knew
Speaker 4: he would take a first pitch strike, so I threw
Speaker 4: an eighty five mile an hour fastball right down the middle,
Speaker 4: and he took it first strike. And I still can't
Speaker 4: believe it. And then I went to work. I started
Speaker 4: throwing sliders, started throwing fastballs in got them to pop up.
Speaker 4: So that that's kind of the strategy, trying to get
Speaker 4: ahead with something off speed, eventually test them up and
Speaker 4: end throughout the course of the bat, and then see
Speaker 4: if you could still try to get them to chase.
Speaker 4: And they're two hitters that don't chase all that often.
Speaker 2: But you look at these guys who are and I
Speaker 2: would think that first pitch, you're you're not trying to
Speaker 2: throw something away, it's gonna be around the plate. That
Speaker 2: if I'm a hitter, I'm just I'm gonna sit on something.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess that you're gonna throw me a fastball
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be around the plate. That would be
Speaker 2: my mindset coming to play. I don't know how many
Speaker 2: hitters have that first pitch mindset.
Speaker 4: That's a great point. I think more and more we're
Speaker 4: seeing it. You know the thing about analytics in today's game,
Speaker 4: You know, every account is analyzed nowadays. You have reams
Speaker 4: and dreams of information nowadays that players get inun dated with,
Speaker 4: and sometimes that might take away from the natural order
Speaker 4: of things in terms of their aggressiveness. It makes you
Speaker 4: a little more information you get, the less aggressive you become,
Speaker 4: generally speaking. But with that being said, the great hitters
Speaker 4: can really zero in on a location and if they
Speaker 4: get it, they're going to jump on it. And that's
Speaker 4: what we call cheating and the first pitch of in
Speaker 4: that bat. If you're cheating on a fastball, you can
Speaker 4: start your swing a little bit sooner, and if you
Speaker 4: get fooled or whatever, you still have two more strikes
Speaker 4: to work with. So that's the pitch that gives count leverage.
Speaker 4: That's the pitch of the pitcher wants to get ahead of,
Speaker 4: and that's the pitch of that the hitter wants to
Speaker 4: do damage on because it might be the best pitch
Speaker 4: he sees throughout the whole bat.
Speaker 2: If you could start your franchise with Otani or Judge,
Speaker 2: what would you take.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you know, I mean, I guess the projection
Speaker 4: is how much pitching can you get from Otani? Well,
Speaker 4: you know with the injuries what he has left. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you're going back a couple of years, and obviously
Speaker 4: Otani with the pitching side of his game, it just
Speaker 4: puts him above everybody else. But there is no doubt
Speaker 4: that in the batter's box with a bat in his hands,
Speaker 4: there's nobody like Aaron Judge. He is clearly the best hitter,
Speaker 4: better than Juan Soto because of his power numbers better
Speaker 4: than anybody in the game right now. Aaron Judge, offensively speaking,
Speaker 4: is the best hitter. And it's not really even an argument.
Speaker 2: You did well against Bonds. I remember he didn't even
Speaker 2: bat two hundred. I don't think against you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I caught early Barry bombs, you know, in this
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh years, you know, in the Mets day, so you know,
Speaker 4: early Barry Bonds is a different cat then later San
Speaker 4: Francisco Giants Berry bombs.
Speaker 2: But you couldn't make him like he had a strike
Speaker 2: zone about the size of a bread box, you know,
Speaker 2: a mailbox, and he was not swinging on anything that
Speaker 2: wasn't in that little area. It felt like, how tough
Speaker 2: was that too? You know, if you miss, it's gone.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know. And the thing about Bonds was is
Speaker 4: that he kind of choked up on the bat. You know,
Speaker 4: you think he looked like Phil Rizzuto up there, the
Speaker 4: way he choked up on the bed at times. Right,
Speaker 4: You ever seen Phil Risuto and how much he choked
Speaker 4: up on a baseball bat. That kind of Bonds was
Speaker 4: that way. And what that made him so dangerous at
Speaker 4: was fastballs in. He was so quick. If you tried
Speaker 4: to pitch him in and you did not get it
Speaker 4: in there, that's the ones he lost. You know, those
Speaker 4: were gone. Those were hit hard. They were either a
Speaker 4: line driver or a home run. So you had to
Speaker 4: be really careful when you tried to pitch Bonds inside
Speaker 4: because anything, anything that that didn't get in off the plate,
Speaker 4: he was going to have a good swing out.
Speaker 2: What is that like when you throw a pitch and
Speaker 2: it's almost like an old bleep that that you know
Speaker 2: you threw a pitch and it's a bad pitch. The
Speaker 2: question is what are they going to do with it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Almost out of my hand, you know, It's like
Speaker 4: hitting a golf ball. Fat. You know. I mean you
Speaker 4: played golf and you know you got a wedge in
Speaker 4: your hand from one hundred and twenty yards and you're
Speaker 4: going to stick this close and you just you lay
Speaker 4: the sod over it. You know, that's how it feels
Speaker 4: out of a pitcher's hand. It's just you're late with
Speaker 4: your arm. You get around it, it gets a loose
Speaker 4: spin on it, and you feel it immediately off your
Speaker 4: fingertips and you're going, uh oh, almost almost halfway to
Speaker 4: home plate. You kind of have already prosessed the fact
Speaker 4: that that's fat. That's hung Watch out, do.
Speaker 3: You have one? You remember where they weren't very kind
Speaker 3: to the baseball.
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember in the playoffs with the Yankees. We
Speaker 4: were playing the Cleveland Indians. Bases loaded. Jim tow me
Speaker 4: up at the plate and I hung one of those pitches,
Speaker 4: one of those sliders I was trying to throw a
Speaker 4: back door, was trying to sneak it over the outside corner.
Speaker 4: It came out of my hand fat, As I said,
Speaker 4: It kind of just spun in there and it just
Speaker 4: laid out over the plate and he hit it in
Speaker 4: the upper deck at the old Yankee Stadium. The sound
Speaker 4: off his bat. I still hear my sleep at night sometimes.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was so loud the way Jim only,
Speaker 4: the way Jim Tomy could hit it. And it was
Speaker 4: a grand slam, and you know, we ended up winning
Speaker 4: that game. It was the clincher in the playoffs. And
Speaker 4: I think it was ninety eight. I believe we were
Speaker 4: playing the Indians in the in the playoffs and we
Speaker 4: ended up winning that series and luckily we scored enough runs.
Speaker 4: But that brought him back, that that grand slam from Tommy.
Speaker 4: Tommy brought him back. And I still remember it like
Speaker 4: it was yesterday.
Speaker 2: And it's and there's certain sounds. You know, Baseball's about sounds,
Speaker 2: and you could tell when something's off the bat. You
Speaker 2: can tell when you're at the plate and you can
Speaker 2: hear that fastball coming by how it hits the mit.
Speaker 2: But you know, Maddis told me it sounds like two
Speaker 2: cars crashing when he gave up a home run.
Speaker 3: He just said and he said, look, I'd rather you
Speaker 3: hit it.
Speaker 2: Four hundred and fifty feet instead of you know, to
Speaker 2: ninety eight down the left field line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's Have you ever been in a
Speaker 4: restaurant with a waiter drops a bunch of dishes in
Speaker 4: the back and that sound and the dishes breaking that
Speaker 4: that's what sounds like to me. You know, that sounds
Speaker 4: off of Jim Tomy's bad. I mean, if you you know,
Speaker 4: the kids said, if you want to see something, you know,
Speaker 4: a mountain of a man swing the bat and listen
Speaker 4: to you know that Jim Tomy's the guy to go
Speaker 4: to YouTube and watch his havevats.
Speaker 3: Can Aaron Judge hit four hundred?
Speaker 4: I would say probably not.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know he's not going to beat out a
Speaker 2: lot of infield hit I mean you've got to get
Speaker 2: some of those like little you know, five hoppers that
Speaker 2: you can beat out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. And also there is the random variance, the
Speaker 4: luck factor, right, I mean analytics if the one thing
Speaker 4: I love about analytics, modern day analytics, is it kind
Speaker 4: of shows you you can look under the hood, as
Speaker 4: they say, and say what's kind of lucky and what's
Speaker 4: going to regress to the mean a little bit? And
Speaker 4: certainly batting average on balls in play, those ground balls
Speaker 4: that are always finding holes, you know, tend to turn around.
Speaker 4: They start to find gloves after a while. So that's
Speaker 4: the fortune part of it. The batting average on balls
Speaker 4: in play is unbelievably high for Aaron Judge right now.
Speaker 4: And you gotta figure that's gonna some of those hard
Speaker 4: ground balls that start to start to go at shortstops
Speaker 4: and second ba baseman, and he's not gonna he's not
Speaker 4: gonna have that high of an average on especially on
Speaker 4: the balls on the ground.
Speaker 2: Where are we with torpedo bats? I thought they were
Speaker 2: ruining baseball and I haven't heard much about torpedo bats.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was just you know, if you
Speaker 4: there'll be case studies on how do you know, how
Speaker 4: do you create a viral moment?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: How does something go viral in today's today's day and age.
Speaker 4: That was just a perfect storm. Michael Kay set it
Speaker 4: up perfectly. The Yankees had a bunch of home runs
Speaker 4: on that day when he talked about for the first
Speaker 4: time the torpedo bat, when actuality, the torpedo bat had
Speaker 4: been out for several years and other players and other
Speaker 4: teams actually were using it on that day, and everybody thought,
Speaker 4: oh no, it was a Yankee thing, Oh the Yankees
Speaker 4: are cheating. And it was just a perfect viral moment
Speaker 4: where everybody thought this was this is brand new technology.
Speaker 4: What is this? We got to ban this, you know,
Speaker 4: this is too good? And boom, there goes Jazz Chishom
Speaker 4: hitting the home run. Boom, there goes Anthony Volpi hitting
Speaker 4: a home run. And it just created this moment where
Speaker 4: everybody just jumped on the bandwagon and thought, this is new,
Speaker 4: this is this is there's something funny going on here
Speaker 4: when reality actually it was nothing could be further from
Speaker 4: the truth. It's like getting fitted for golf clubs. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like a game improvement club, so to speak. You know,
Speaker 4: the torpedo bet that gets the mass where you hit
Speaker 4: the ball most often and not supposed to help you
Speaker 4: a little bit, but it's certainly within the rules. There's
Speaker 4: nothing to illegal about it.
Speaker 3: What's the highest percentage you got for Hall of Fame votes?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Gee, I was one and done. You know, I think
Speaker 4: you had to get five percent. I was a little
Speaker 4: under five percent. I think it was four percent each
Speaker 4: something in that range, you know, And you know the
Speaker 4: dynamics of the Hall of Fame vote, there's only ten
Speaker 4: ten players you can vote on. In that particular year,
Speaker 4: there was a lot of good players on the list,
Speaker 4: so I just could I couldn't quite get enough to
Speaker 4: stay on the ballot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you would.
Speaker 2: You didn't win two hundred games, which probably you know,
Speaker 2: we like round numbers. But you were on five World
Speaker 2: Series champions. You want to say, young, that pretty good resume.
Speaker 4: I have no complaints, you know. I mean another reason,
Speaker 4: you know why I like modern analytics is because war
Speaker 4: the War ran. Whether you use fan graphs, you know
Speaker 4: what these websites that sort of calculate the war rankings.
Speaker 4: It's Baseball Reference B War or f War, fangrafts War.
Speaker 4: They're they're both a little different in terms of pitching.
Speaker 4: Ones based on era, ones based on fit field or
Speaker 4: independent pitching. So it gets a little technical. But you know,
Speaker 4: I'm around sixty war, you know, on both of those categories,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of the the entry point to being
Speaker 4: considered for the Hall of Fame. But I still kind
Speaker 4: of think I'm a classic borderline guy. And when I
Speaker 4: look at my generation, I can really kind of count
Speaker 4: on five on one hand, the who the guys were,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, let me think Trandy Johnson, Greg Maddox, Smoltz,
Speaker 4: you know, Pedro Martinez, even Roger Clemens, you know, all
Speaker 4: the controversy aside.
Speaker 3: I mean, ibnut to knowing.
Speaker 4: Chilling absolutely is above me in my mind. Absolutely, you know,
Speaker 4: put the politics aside, or whether you like them or not,
Speaker 4: or morality or whatever. I mean, I'm not sure if
Speaker 4: I want all the sports writers, the guys that I
Speaker 4: hung out with in the hotel bars all those years,
Speaker 4: those guys to beat the boil judge you know, of anybody,
Speaker 4: I tell you the truth, but Kurt shown is a
Speaker 4: Hall of famer.
Speaker 2: I always thought that Pedro Martinez was underrated.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think if you talk to a lot of
Speaker 4: hitters who faced him, they would say, he's the toughest
Speaker 4: cal Ricken Junior. Ask cal Ricken Junior, who the toughest
Speaker 4: pitcher he ever faced? And that's cal He played every day,
Speaker 4: he didn't miss anybody. Yeah, Pedro, Pedro's the answer, you know.
Speaker 4: So that tells you kind of what you need to
Speaker 4: know about who you didn't want to face, your least
Speaker 4: likely picture that you wanted to face. And a lot
Speaker 4: of guys would say Pedro.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I always viewed him as kind of a right handed
Speaker 2: Sandy Kofax. He just put up incredible, incredible numbers there,
Speaker 2: great to talk to you tell Michael Kay, we said
Speaker 2: he alone and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure Dan anytime.
Speaker 3: That's David Kohne.
Speaker 2: I think he had but one and ninety two wins
Speaker 2: something like that and was on five World Series Champions
Speaker 2: and a cy Young winner and Can City I believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin, he was.
Speaker 7: One ninety four and one, twenty six and seventeen seasons. Okay,
Speaker 7: isn't that like the Frank Gore of his sport? Like
Speaker 7: you compiled it? He won twenty games at age twenty five.
Speaker 7: He won twenty games at age thirty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't. He didn't win another like Frank Gore.
Speaker 2: Is what top five and rushing? Yeah, you know Coney didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't if he had two like Tommy John to
Speaker 2: me as a Hall of Famer, he had two hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty eight, that would be like a Frank Gore.
Speaker 2: He had sustainability for a long period of time. And
Speaker 2: you know Don Sutton got into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: I think he was a compiler. Yeah, paulinon Cone was
Speaker 2: also eight and three as a postseason answer. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: like bonus, Yeah, I like that.
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Speaker 2: We will hear from Rebecca Low She's covering the Kentucky
Speaker 2: Derby for NBC. She'll join us momentarily Michael and Wisconsin. Mike,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today.
Speaker 9: Today?
Speaker 10: Dan, thanks for calling me six foot two twenty. I
Speaker 10: got some Kentucky Derby sports names for you if you're ready. Sure,
Speaker 10: all right, So first we have today trexplayer. We have
Speaker 10: Gordon Haywood, Maverick Carter, Jackie.
Speaker 3: Peterson, jack Peterson okay.
Speaker 10: And lastly we're gonna finish it out with full full
Speaker 10: instead of okay.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 9: Rushed.
Speaker 2: I know, but Fritzie went back to try to help
Speaker 2: connect with Rebecca Low and he is. He's going to
Speaker 2: be a little surprised, a little disappointed. He didn't think
Speaker 2: of Kentucky Derby horses.
Speaker 11: I not thing we've ever done Kentucky Derby horse names.
Speaker 2: Now I can tell him to whip up a badge
Speaker 2: here and he'll come up with fifteen, probably before the
Speaker 2: end of the show.
Speaker 3: Yes, trot Nixon Okay, oh yeah, yeah, I got ye.
Speaker 2: All right, So we'll see if Fritzy can bring us
Speaker 2: some Kentucky Derby horses named.
Speaker 3: Uh name Nate Newton.
Speaker 2: No, it would be nay nay, nay nay Newton, the
Speaker 2: basketball player.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, you've just nay nay Yeah. Yeah. Let
Speaker 3: me see who else steaming?
Speaker 2: And I know, well he doesn't he's trying to connect
Speaker 2: with Rebecca Low. You know, you don't think he wants
Speaker 2: to come out into this furnace.
Speaker 12: I mean, well, I don't know what which is worse,
Speaker 12: Todd being out here and not doing the horse names
Speaker 12: or actually him actually trying to help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that do something computer really Yeah, because we have.
Speaker 2: Mario and Anthony back there, their jobs are to try
Speaker 2: to connect.
Speaker 11: You don't be anyone who hears an engineer either.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's Todd coming out. Todd's got his Nick's
Speaker 2: outfit on today. Is Rebecca set to join?
Speaker 4: Not just yet? Churchill downing?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you got another one? Marvin? Did you
Speaker 3: have Kentucky Derby horses names?
Speaker 4: I'm not clever as Todd.
Speaker 3: Okay, Todd, do you have any more?
Speaker 4: I'm thinking I need a couple of minutes, Yes.
Speaker 7: Paul, an easy one.
Speaker 3: Colt McCoy okay, simple, yeah, do that.
Speaker 2: They see see the audience will be great. They'll come
Speaker 2: up with this. Todd, can you whip up a batch
Speaker 2: of ten or so?
Speaker 3: I'm going to work on that, okay. Matt in North Carolina? Hi, Matt,
Speaker 3: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: First time? Long time? Six five and a half or
Speaker 9: twenty three. Hey, DP, shows say it with me. We
Speaker 9: listen and we don't judge. So Hey, I'm wondering what
Speaker 9: you got one hundred? John Halliburton's versus Milwaukee's mascot Bengo
Speaker 9: the Buck.
Speaker 2: Who you got? How you taking me? Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take John Halliburton. He looks like he
Speaker 2: means business. He's not allowed to go to any of
Speaker 2: the Pacers games. Homer on the road. He agreed not
Speaker 2: to go after they told him that you're not allowed
Speaker 2: to go. I like al, there's a mutual mutual decision.
Speaker 2: There really is. Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 13: Hey DP, I got Josh and Caleb downs since we're
Speaker 13: going with the Okay Churchill downs reference, and I just
Speaker 13: wanted to step in and.
Speaker 6: Stick up for Fritzy a little bit.
Speaker 13: Y'all are ragging on him for wearing next gear, and
Speaker 13: y'all are just going to look past what Dylan's wearing.
Speaker 13: Dress like a thrist store mannequin.
Speaker 3: I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 13: But my question is, and maybe you guys will have
Speaker 13: more insight on this, how does college game day manage
Speaker 13: the signs that will be behind them because I'm really
Speaker 13: looking forward to the North Carolina game day.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, Zach, it is going. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what happens. There are game day sign police.
Speaker 2: They have people who are looking to see what you're
Speaker 2: bringing in. Now, we had people when I did Occupy
Speaker 2: game Day and had you guys bring in signs that
Speaker 2: just related to the show, like a message that could
Speaker 2: be to Fritzi or Shyan Irving, whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: But we did Occupy game Day and you guys were
Speaker 2: really good at sneaking in signs, and you would sneak
Speaker 2: in a sign and then you'd peel off the sign
Speaker 2: and then it would be a message to our audience.
Speaker 2: I think if game day North Carolina with Belichick and
Speaker 2: his girlfriend.
Speaker 12: Not encouraging anyone to know, No, it's an organic ressroots
Speaker 12: movement dan on its own.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course.
Speaker 2: Now you've got people choosing sides and coming out and
Speaker 2: defending her, and then you got Belichick's son's wife who
Speaker 2: was criticizing her like, this is a mess. This is
Speaker 2: not what you you know when you say any publicity
Speaker 2: is good publicity, This isn't publicity for Bill or North Carolina.
Speaker 7: Yeahpoone, I've got the UNC football schedule and the game
Speaker 7: That makes sense because they don't have a bunch of
Speaker 7: monster home games. They've got Clemson at home this year
Speaker 7: October fourth, if there's a light weekend through the chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But game Day doesn't need to have a big matchup.
Speaker 2: They just this is the event is North Carolina? Not
Speaker 2: who they're playing? Yeah, because I tune in, it's just
Speaker 2: like what campus are they on and how will they
Speaker 2: show out?
Speaker 3: Not who is Oregon playing?
Speaker 2: You know, normally they're going to a big matchup, but
Speaker 2: in this case with North Carolina, I think it's just
Speaker 2: we're gonna go. Isn't that the first place you should
Speaker 2: be going this year? I don't know if Game Day
Speaker 2: has put out their schedule where they're going.
Speaker 3: Yeahpoe.
Speaker 7: With coach Coursover retiring, a lot of people think they'll
Speaker 7: open at Florida State no matter what.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's Alma mater, Yes, Okay, I'd be fine with that.
Speaker 2: Dennis in Venice, I Dennis in Venice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh so I have a question if you're the GM
Speaker 6: or the owner the four major sports, so you could
Speaker 6: be the GM owner, you can have Otani and Judge
Speaker 6: on the team, Mahomes or Miles Garrett on the team,
Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards or Luca on the team, or Ovechkin and
Speaker 6: Con McDavid on the team on the same team. Who
Speaker 6: you want to be the owner.
Speaker 3: Of GM OF I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd probably look at Otani and Judge. But thank you
Speaker 2: for the phone call. Dennis from Venice and Dan and Vancouver.
Speaker 2: Dennis and Venice and Dan and Van Dan Man.
Speaker 3: Come on, Hi, Dan, morning, Dan.
Speaker 14: You and I are the same age, and I've never
Speaker 14: been angry enough to call. But Marvin Marvin is small,
Speaker 14: hands down correct on the v Wonder call. Any way
Speaker 14: that you measure it, Stevie Wonder comes out on top.
Speaker 14: You talked about the amount of instruments that Prince plays.
Speaker 14: The only thing that Stevie Wonder didn't play on most
Speaker 14: of his albums was guitar. Yeah, you talked about Prince
Speaker 14: being a hit maker. He had five number one hits.
Speaker 14: Stevie Wonder had ten twenty five Grammy's compared to seven.
Speaker 3: Don't think it's even close.
Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the passion and it's just personal preference.
Speaker 2: Songs in the Kia life is a wonderful double album,
Speaker 2: and if you don't know what a double album is,
Speaker 2: google it. But I didn't get see Stevie wonder I
Speaker 2: got see Prince, and just saying Prince Prince was pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2: Stevie was amazing because you know he's blind and you're going,
Speaker 2: how is he doing this? But Prince could play every instrument.
Speaker 2: All I know is when Dave Grohl was asked about,
Speaker 2: you know, great guitar play, and he said, Prince.
Speaker 3: Look at Prince in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: When he gets up there and you got all those
Speaker 2: great guitar players, all of a sudden, Prince goes up,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take over from here, and you got
Speaker 2: George Harrison, you got Tom Petty up there, and Prince
Speaker 2: goes I got this.
Speaker 11: One, and they're all kind of like, uh, you could
Speaker 11: say at a certain point, there's like a lot of looks.
Speaker 3: Around and eye rolls. He goes.
Speaker 12: Yeah he is shreddy, and they're like, okay, see this
Speaker 12: isn't what we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, how would you feel if you're those musicians?
Speaker 2: It's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Prince decides to go solo.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've watched that clip twenty times, Tom Petty and
Speaker 7: everyone there. I think they probably loved it because Prince
Speaker 7: doesn't do stuff like that, and they knew that even
Speaker 7: though they're the side show and Prince was a star.
Speaker 7: In that five minute stretch, a moment was made and
Speaker 7: sometimes you have to give it up. They Maybe I'm
Speaker 7: completely wrong, but I think they're okay.
Speaker 2: I think they got healthy egos and they're like, uh,
Speaker 2: look we're not going solo. Yeah, it was impressive. I
Speaker 2: just wonder what they thought, as if you know, a
Speaker 2: fan just watching him, like, damn, look at Prince go. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: I'm Tom Petty, you know, George Harrison gave us wow.
Speaker 2: My guitar gently weeps.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 3: He's clapped in up there too. Maybe yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11: It's like Steve Wynnwood, these dudes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if they would have been
Speaker 2: thrilled that all of a sudden, Prince goes you know,
Speaker 2: why don't you guys sit down.
Speaker 3: I'll take it from here.
Speaker 11: He's shredding.
Speaker 3: Yes, he is absolutely hey.
Speaker 2: When he played at the Super Bowl, when he plays
Speaker 2: Purple Rain and it's raining.
Speaker 3: Damn. That was awesome. It was. It was one of
Speaker 3: those where you go, yep, that's happening right there.
Speaker 11: You know, there's an interesting story too.
Speaker 12: I don't know if it was like Jimmy jam or somebody,
Speaker 12: but they would talk about like the like brilliance of prints. Yeah,
Speaker 12: and they would talk about like he knew what you
Speaker 12: could do and you didn't even know it yet.
Speaker 3: He would be like no, no, no, you sing this.
Speaker 12: Note or whatever. They'd be like, that's out of my ranger.
Speaker 12: Be like no, no, no, you could do it.
Speaker 11: You just go do it.
Speaker 12: And he would put all these people together and doing
Speaker 12: things that he hadn't you know, things that they weren't
Speaker 12: aware they could even do.
Speaker 11: Yet, and then it would all work out.
Speaker 2: Fritzi was having a really good day until David Cohne
Speaker 2: got his time screwed up. And now we can't connect
Speaker 2: with Rebecca Low. So what was going to be a
Speaker 2: great Friday for Fritzie is all of a sudden turning
Speaker 2: into a nightmare. Let's take a break, Let's see if
Speaker 2: we can get one more shot at trying to connect
Speaker 2: with Rebecca Low. And if you're watching on Peacock, we're
Speaker 2: going out for the Champion's luncheon that will be served
Speaker 2: by Dylan.
Speaker 3: We're back after this.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, last call for phone calls? What we learn what's
Speaker 2: in store for Monday on the program. She is Rebecca
Speaker 2: Low NBC Sports Premier League host and hosting the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 3: It All unfolds tomorrow.
Speaker 2: NBC Sports will be at Churchill Downs Saturday to thirty
Speaker 2: Eastern and NBC and Peacack. She also hosts the Premier
Speaker 2: League live from the very same location, with coverage beginning
Speaker 2: at to eastern. Right here on Peacock All look, who
Speaker 2: is part of the scenery. It's Rebecca Boy. Describe the
Speaker 2: pageantry surrounding us.
Speaker 15: Oh, Dan, so lovely to talk to you.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of pink because it's Ladies Day in
Speaker 5: honor of remember in breast cancer. Hribat to them. So
Speaker 5: we've got a lot of pink. Got a lot of pink.
Speaker 5: Hat what very tall hat seems to be a theme.
Speaker 5: I'm not a big hat person, Dan, I don't know
Speaker 5: if you are, but I love a fascinator. But the
Speaker 5: hats around here are point incredible.
Speaker 3: There's a horse walking right behind you by the way.
Speaker 15: You Then it happens in It does happen a lot.
Speaker 15: I mean the patast.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of horses down there, church Hill
Speaker 2: down all right. Set the scene for tomorrow.
Speaker 15: Okay.
Speaker 5: So, as you said, I'm doing a bit of double duty.
Speaker 5: So we've got the Premier League in the morning. I'll
Speaker 5: be here in the morning. We've got three mats windows
Speaker 5: finishing with Arsenal taking on Bournemouth, and then we come
Speaker 5: off there on NBC at around two thirty Eastern, I think,
Speaker 5: and I row pretty much directly to Mike Turco, who
Speaker 5: then opens the show for the coverage on NBC, they'll
Speaker 5: have been on all day pretty much though on USA
Speaker 5: Network and People. He'll then open the show on NBC
Speaker 5: the Big Open at two thirteen Eastern and I run.
Speaker 5: I make a run in some direction, not quite sure
Speaker 5: which direction is yet to meet up with Dylan Dryer.
Speaker 5: We do our first hit and then I have a
Speaker 5: bunch of hits throughout the day, culminating in the winner's
Speaker 5: circle with the interview with the winning owner, so I
Speaker 5: can't wait for that. That is always a great, great moment.
Speaker 5: I get the best seat in the house down to
Speaker 5: watch the race. I'm like in the pagoda at the winners,
Speaker 5: in the winner's circle. So it's an absolute true.
Speaker 2: I told this audience those two minutes, there's nothing else
Speaker 2: that compares to those two minutes when those the horses are,
Speaker 2: you know, in the gate, and all of a sudden boom,
Speaker 2: they're off, And how would you describe that feeling?
Speaker 5: I think the only way I can describe it is
Speaker 5: having seen for the first time I've ever seen the
Speaker 5: one hundred meters rates the men's one hundred meters I
Speaker 5: saw in Paris in twenty twenty four, which is only
Speaker 5: what nine seconds, so it's much shorter in that way,
Speaker 5: But you're also it's the same build up. You're all waiting,
Speaker 5: building up to this tiny fraction of time in which
Speaker 5: so much can happen.
Speaker 15: So it feels a little bit like that.
Speaker 5: And then the ending is so interesting, damn, because when
Speaker 5: the favorite winds, the whole place are up. And then
Speaker 5: the last couple of times I've been here when it's
Speaker 5: not the favorite, or we had Rich strike at eighty
Speaker 5: to one. A few years ago, it was like you
Speaker 5: could hear a pin drop. Everybody was furious. So the
Speaker 5: end is really interesting as well, depending on who wins,
Speaker 5: and then it's just seeing the happiness on people's faces
Speaker 5: that owners the connections.
Speaker 15: It's just one big party. Amazing.
Speaker 3: What kind of celebrities are going to be there.
Speaker 15: So I've heard that Aaron Rodgers is coming. I think.
Speaker 5: Lamark Jackson, I think the Baltimore Ravens. Yes he does actually, yes, okay, excellent,
Speaker 5: Simone Biles. I'm going to be interviewing Simone Biles tomorrows.
Speaker 5: I'm so excited about that. Chaboozie. We've got Jack Harlow,
Speaker 5: the singer who's a big Premier League ban so excited
Speaker 5: to talk to him about Premier League before we actually
Speaker 5: do the interview.
Speaker 15: So we've got the good number of good faces coming down.
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, she's showing up, you.
Speaker 15: Know what, I don't think.
Speaker 5: So this year there were rumors that Travis Pelsey was coming.
Speaker 5: I was going to interview him. That's going to have
Speaker 5: been interesting, but no, I think he's going to the
Speaker 5: Formula One this weekend. So there's a lot of good
Speaker 5: things going on. But this is the place to be
Speaker 5: down Patrick, you know it. I cannot believe you're not here.
Speaker 2: Okay, if I'm going to ask you this, if you
Speaker 2: could have a triple Crown winner, you could be an
Speaker 2: owner of a triple Crown winner or why wow, or
Speaker 2: one of the owners of Wrexham.
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I have to go Rexam. I have to
Speaker 5: go Rexham down because they are going to the Premier
Speaker 5: League and that from where they've come to where they're
Speaker 5: going is just the fairy tale. I used to cover
Speaker 5: Wrexham when they were in the fiftier of English football.
Speaker 5: It's called the Conference. The National League's fully professional by
Speaker 5: the way, that's how much we love our football and
Speaker 5: England five years of professional football.
Speaker 15: I used to go there.
Speaker 5: I used to cover the games and that was around
Speaker 5: for the two thousand and eight kind of time, two
Speaker 5: thousand and two thousand and nine. So to see them
Speaker 5: now and in my opinion, they'll be in the Premier
Speaker 5: League within three years for us, that will be an
Speaker 5: amazing story and I can't wait for it because everybody
Speaker 5: in Wrexham, just a small town in North Wales, everybody
Speaker 5: in Rexham loves what's happening and I would love to
Speaker 5: be a part of that, So it got any shares
Speaker 5: so to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I you know, I don't think that the
Speaker 2: reaction when you had, you know, two Hollywood celebrities buying
Speaker 2: your football team. They're coming in and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you know, the locals probably weren't keen on Ryan Reynolds
Speaker 2: and Rob mcwa.
Speaker 5: Not at the beginning, not at the beginning down because Wrexham,
Speaker 5: like every English football club, is very steet and tradition,
Speaker 5: has ways of doing things. English football has ways of
Speaker 5: doing things and sounds terrible. We don't like outsiders. We
Speaker 5: don't like outsiders, and as much as we love Americans,
Speaker 5: sometimes we've had bad experiences in English football with some
Speaker 5: American owners. So I think there was reticence and there
Speaker 5: was nervousness that their club because as I've told you
Speaker 5: we've talked about before Dan football clubs in England are
Speaker 5: everything to the people in that hound city or even
Speaker 5: village really and Wrexham is no different. So they weren't
Speaker 5: convinced when they came in. Took them a little time,
Speaker 5: but now they've realized they're two people who absolutely have
Speaker 5: the best interests of this club at heart and are
Speaker 5: taking them onto great things.
Speaker 15: And now I think they've bought them.
Speaker 2: She's Rebecca Lo NBC Sports Premier League host and hosting
Speaker 2: at the Kentucky Derby. You know, if I had a
Speaker 2: horse in the derby, you know what I would name it?
Speaker 15: What?
Speaker 3: What do you think I would name it? Hurricane waker? Oh?
Speaker 15: What we got? No, Dad, we got two thirds of
Speaker 15: the way from the city.
Speaker 5: This is going very calmly, Dad behaving himself, and then
Speaker 5: you throw in the only words that you absolutely cannot
Speaker 5: say on English television.
Speaker 15: I can't believe you've just done that. I can't believe her.
Speaker 15: I can't believe her.
Speaker 2: I get you every year, every year, every year I
Speaker 2: get you.
Speaker 15: You don't make me say it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I would never be But if you
Speaker 2: were working and all of a sudden you went with
Speaker 2: the favorites and you went sovereignty whanker sand stop it,
Speaker 2: stop it.
Speaker 15: Can you imagine because this kind.
Speaker 5: Of the sort of thing I feel like might happen
Speaker 5: over here, Because you guys think it's just like a
Speaker 5: joking word. If people have probably heard it on like
Speaker 5: Ted last night, could you imagine that could actually happen.
Speaker 3: I'm Dad.
Speaker 5: I've had a situ recently where my son wanted to
Speaker 5: buy a fanny pack and I just gotta tell you,
Speaker 5: in England we can't be using such buds. You google it, Patrick,
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it again.
Speaker 3: To the shop, have fun this weekend. Thanks Don great, great,
Speaker 3: great to see you.
Speaker 2: That's the lovely and talented Rebecca Lo, NBC Sports Premier
Speaker 2: League host in Kentucky derby host as well.
Speaker 3: Can Dylan come in and?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 3: We have the pickstick.
Speaker 12: I think in England they call it a bum bag
Speaker 12: because you can't say fanny.
Speaker 13: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they don't want you saying fanny. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: not allowed to say fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, Dylan, do you want to help this uh segment
Speaker 2: here with the the pick six so we understand exactly
Speaker 2: what we're supposed to do with this.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so little explanation. So the pick six you have
Speaker 16: to pick two or more props for players, but you
Speaker 16: can only use the player once regardless of the props,
Speaker 16: so points or rebounds still only ones. And then you
Speaker 16: go head to head, peer to peer, as they say,
Speaker 16: with other people with the same sized lineup.
Speaker 3: Well, why don't you pick for us.
Speaker 16: Oh you want to pick? Yeah, all right, I'll give
Speaker 16: you a pick. I'm gonna go Steph under twenty five
Speaker 16: and a half points. Okay, So now Steph is off
Speaker 16: the board for the rest of you guys.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: And I had my big pick of Jalen Green for
Speaker 7: the Rockets over fifteen and a half locket.
Speaker 17: Okay, I've got Jimmy Butler under twenty two and a
Speaker 17: half points.
Speaker 2: I have Draymond Green over one and a half steals.
Speaker 2: I'd go Dylan Brooks with the under twelve and a
Speaker 2: half points.
Speaker 3: Okay, Marvin, I have Steph Curry, Steph Curry over no, no, no,
Speaker 3: he's off the board the board, just Steph Curry period. Yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 11: You can't use the same player twice.
Speaker 4: Oh, Fred van Vliet over fifteen and a half points?
Speaker 3: All right, Well did you do Fred van Vliet? Now
Speaker 3: was Jalen Green?
Speaker 1: All right? Book it.
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Speaker 2: fun Week. How about this day in sports history Paul.
Speaker 7: Nineteen seventy, Diane Crump became the first female jockey to
Speaker 7: ride in the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 4: Oh here's one.
Speaker 7: Nineteen eighty eight, Pete Rose of the Reds was suspended
Speaker 7: thirty games for pushing an umpire. I don't recall that
Speaker 7: at all.
Speaker 3: He was managing, managing, Yeah, yeah, I think it was managing.
Speaker 7: That got blown away by something else after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, off, imagine that was the worst
Speaker 3: thing you ever did.
Speaker 2: Exact Mike Cameron on this date in two thousand and two,
Speaker 2: four home runs Mariners a big winner over the White
Speaker 2: Sox and the other. Isaiah Thomas on this day, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: he had fifty three points for the Celtics as they
Speaker 2: beat the Wizards in overtime.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tod a few quick horse sports names. I know
Speaker 3: we're getting to what we were.
Speaker 17: Yeah, say hey, kid, Willie Mays, Jy, I'm gonna go
Speaker 17: with that Italian style in Rocky Balboa Blue War, Admiral
Speaker 17: David Robinson and Joey gallup.
Speaker 3: Way Joey Galloway. How about Pete Roses.
Speaker 17: Pete Roses, you remember Tim Foley, Little Shortstop, Blu Winfielder,
Speaker 17: they wait for the expos and Pirates few teams.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we did it. We made it all
Speaker 2: the way to Friday. This one dude on social media
Speaker 2: is on fire. He's got Joe buck Ken, Stabler, Antonio.
Speaker 12: Gates, excelln Clydesdale, Sam steed Stead, It's Sam Snead.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love those What did I learn today on
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