WEBVTT - Q & A: Love, Cringe, and Off Limits

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Z mccomedy from the home office

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas. If you've just watched our social media

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<v Speaker 1>We're off to a banging start today. As Lauren has

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<v Speaker 1>been doing her vocal exercises MEMI one two three, she's

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<v Speaker 1>living with notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Me me one, two, three, four five. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm supposed to do these vocal exercises four times a day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that's the hardest part is to remember. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you remember to do something four times a day?

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<v Speaker 1>Just a spit take there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, we'll see you doing four times, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing water.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just keep saying you're living with notes because I

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<v Speaker 1>love pitch perfect, but you're actually not living with notes.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, it's a vocal polyp. And I thought a polyp

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<v Speaker 3>was like something that grows, you know, like some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of cancerous Yes. No, but in the vocal world they

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<v Speaker 3>use the word polyps an injury.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're working with a voice coach that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>helping you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm not doing well and not doing well

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<v Speaker 3>with my homework. It's very difficult. I need to think

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<v Speaker 3>of it as like physical therapy because you've had an injury.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually worked with three years ago as well. Not

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<v Speaker 1>the same, but I did the same. I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't living with nodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But what were you living with?

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<v Speaker 1>I was losing my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go, you were living with little mermaid syndrome.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually understand that reference.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you do you have a daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I would lose my voice from time to time

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<v Speaker 1>because we're just hosting so much, especially when I was traveling,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I would get to, like do a show

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas. Vegas throat is a real thing because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so dry there. You're in the desert, smoky. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in terrible you know, parts of air, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would lose I would get very especially Miss America Week.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, uh, okay, questions, why have you not been

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<v Speaker 2>the one training me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's like teaching your spouse to play golf. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait do you actually think that is a terrible idea?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a horrible idea. It's a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to get divorced or broken up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right, because, by the way, please dms everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to know do you think your spouse

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<v Speaker 3>can teach you a skill? Because I know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of I guess women mostly who I've heard say well,

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<v Speaker 3>I play golf now. I took it up so that,

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<v Speaker 3>like my husband and I could do something together. And

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<v Speaker 3>they asked me, do you play golf? And I say

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<v Speaker 3>I now, But I do respond with I think at

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<v Speaker 3>that school, you guys want to do something together. For me,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris and I already do enough together. We work together,

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<v Speaker 3>we like all sorts of different socializing together. We talk

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<v Speaker 3>movies together, so we don't need another together thing. Like

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<v Speaker 3>golf is your thing and I don't like it, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm certainly not going to take it up. But what

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<v Speaker 3>I don't ask those women is well, is your husband

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<v Speaker 3>the one teaching you golf?

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say, don't do it. There's things when

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<v Speaker 1>you're parenting and when you're when you're in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>that fall into this category. Be the fun, cool person,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you're parenting you can't always be the fun,

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<v Speaker 1>cool guy or whatever, but be the supportive person. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you are learning golf, I would get you a

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<v Speaker 1>great instructor. You need a different, bad guy different, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I get to come in at the end and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how great you're doing. Then we get to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe hit on the range, maybe go play a few

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<v Speaker 1>holes together, and I get to tell you how great

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<v Speaker 1>it is and how fun it is. So I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>fun person in this relationship. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the person telling you what you're doing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're totally right about that, because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like us having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that was.

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<v Speaker 3>A spit take for me. I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 3>that meant. That was like a dad joke, but a

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<v Speaker 3>dirty dad folk.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you're agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>You agree though with the golf, Well, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>when your spouse is teaching you something, it's just really

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<v Speaker 3>easy to You're gonna you're gonna be frustrated when you're

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<v Speaker 3>learning golf or learning anything, but probably especially golf, especially golf,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's gonna be easy to snap at your spouse,

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<v Speaker 3>and then your spouse is heard and then doing frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing what you're telling me exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So the idea of teaching someone golf is only cute

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<v Speaker 3>for that image that we all have of like a

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<v Speaker 3>third date in our head, you know, when you're just

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<v Speaker 3>dating and it's like, oh, help me with my swing.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl she acts like she doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What he's turns out she's a professional. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this brings us to our first

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<v Speaker 1>question of the day, because today's episode is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A with you the listener, and this comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Bethany, and I wanted to go to you because

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany says, my husband has recently taken up golf. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what I need to know to be a golf wife,

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<v Speaker 1>because wow, you're really good at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I'm a golf wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know about that. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that even means, but I understand what she's talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I think there's something inherently about that term, Like, Bethany,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to be a golf wife, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I certain that just takes away your identity. And I

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<v Speaker 3>get that it's playful, but I don't think of myself

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<v Speaker 3>as a golf wife. I do think if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a spouse supporting your partner as they play golf.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I'll be honest, I did it at

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<v Speaker 3>Edgewood at the celebrity tournament. I walked all eighteen holes

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<v Speaker 3>with you every day, three days. That's maybe the second

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<v Speaker 3>time I've ever done that. I don't think that to

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<v Speaker 3>be a good golf wife. I don't think you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be out there for all eighteen holes because you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to enjoy that whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to start to well.

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<v Speaker 1>That was, by the way, a very special event and tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity event that you were just as much a

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<v Speaker 1>part of on the daily when I'm here in Austin

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. What I love is you, And this goes

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<v Speaker 1>for not just golf, Bethany, this goes for everything, man, woman,

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. We encourage each other's to do our

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<v Speaker 1>own thing, love, our love, our passions, our hobbies. Courage that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's your definition of golf wife. What type of

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<v Speaker 3>golf wife are you? Are you the golf wife who says,

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<v Speaker 3>go play for four hours, I'll see you later.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great time. I won't text you and.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy and then you use those four hours, bet you

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<v Speaker 3>and do what you want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a secret. Go to home goods, go to Marshalls.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a candle you have time for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Three and that's what I like to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say, like, look sort of dependent on

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<v Speaker 3>and I would make these decisions based on the course,

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<v Speaker 3>the temperature, the weather. Is it sometimes fun to like

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<v Speaker 3>go out and ride in the cart with you or

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<v Speaker 3>walk a few holes with you for a little bit, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>like we'll do that on vacation and it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a margarita in hand. Just know that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Should only engage in the golf if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you'll start to resent the golf.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't make yourself go out there and do it

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<v Speaker 3>just because you think like you have to be there

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<v Speaker 3>to be supportive. You don't, wouldn't you say, babe, that

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<v Speaker 3>most men are probably like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with you just letting me golf. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be part of this. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best things you ever said to me

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<v Speaker 1>when we first started dating and got married, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>your thing doesn't need to be my thing. My thing

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to necessarily be your thing. We can respect it,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it from time to time, Like I honestly don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind going to home goods from time to time. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind coming out to special events. When it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to call you out.

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<v Speaker 3>All the amount of time that you have spent in

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<v Speaker 3>home goods compared to the amount of time that I've

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<v Speaker 3>spent on golf courses with you is vastly, wildly, So okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call home Goods out on something. Have events,

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<v Speaker 1>have cocktail hours, have things where we know, yes, chakuteris

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<v Speaker 1>a line we walk around home goods.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't get Maybe if I ever bring you to

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<v Speaker 3>home Goods, I should give you a snack.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's elevate the event and they have food there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sometimes I'll just open up a snack from the

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<v Speaker 3>snack round. I'll just seat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, But I would just say that's some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing is like you respect each other's passion, hobbies

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, but it doesn't need to become your

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<v Speaker 1>thing when you get married, when you start dating, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to become the same person. Keeping that individuality,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping those the separation of church and state is a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I was in a relationship in the

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<v Speaker 3>past with a guy who golfed a lot, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, oh my gosh, you're golfing so much like

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<v Speaker 3>we need time to do things together. And he would

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<v Speaker 3>respond with, well, you should come golf with me, And

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't fair to me because that's like, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to I don't want to have to learn

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<v Speaker 3>to like this thing that I know I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 3>in in order to spend time with you. We should

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<v Speaker 3>have And that should have been a big red flag

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<v Speaker 3>for me at that moment. You should have things that

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<v Speaker 3>you enjoy doing together without one person having to force

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<v Speaker 3>it upon themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And all these things can go too far.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that being said Bethany.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, at the end of the day, the simplest answer

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<v Speaker 3>on how to be a good golf wife is make

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<v Speaker 3>sure there's drinks and snacks and make sure that he

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<v Speaker 3>knows you need drinks and snacks. Do you remember early

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<v Speaker 3>on I forget where it was. He might have been

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<v Speaker 3>at Pebble Beach, you know what, God, where were we? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>it was sometime when like Caitlin and Jason were with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a Riviera country river area, tiger Wood's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ryder cup event, yes, with he and Fred couple.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were walking, Caitlyn and Jason were together at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and I think you and I were walking

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<v Speaker 3>with Tiger because your friends with Tiger, and I sort

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<v Speaker 3>of knew I can't really say anything on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm in this and I gotta just be quiet

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<v Speaker 3>because like he's walking with Tiger.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would say about halfway through, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>are there no drinks and snacks anywhere? And I told

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<v Speaker 3>you later and you were like, Okay, I will never

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<v Speaker 3>make you go nine holes without a drink and snack

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<v Speaker 3>break again.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an awakening, that was a realization. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a communication, and it's never happened since, so thank you, Bethany.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't looked at these at all.

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of try to go on a little blind

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<v Speaker 3>so that the answers are natural. But so I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to just pick one and go back and let's just

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth at babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>Mary Anne wants to know, are there any topics you

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<v Speaker 3>will never talk about on your podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the off limits topics?

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's some things with the show I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't ever go back to, just because I just

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<v Speaker 1>never want to be that person. And what are what

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<v Speaker 1>are personal things I was trying to think of personal.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's not so much topics as like the

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<v Speaker 3>deep layers of those topics. Like I talk about losing

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<v Speaker 3>my dad, but there are some things that are like

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<v Speaker 3>so painful for my family and my family that I like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't go to those places, or like we might. I

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<v Speaker 3>might talk about past relationships, but I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>get into specifics about who that person was and that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing, because I want to respect people's privacy.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I don't know, or maybe you made

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<v Speaker 3>a sex joke earlier. I feel like we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 3>our sex life a little bit, but we don't go

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<v Speaker 3>do deep. You got to keep some things personal.

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<v Speaker 1>What's funny is I've thought about this podcast, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we always think as producers, Okay, what could you

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<v Speaker 1>do to elevate it, make it bigger. I know there

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<v Speaker 1>are podcasts out there where people really go to the

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<v Speaker 1>crwch they're all in and no pun intended, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know they'll talk about their sex life. They'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the everything details, the good, the bad, the ugly. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that could be revelatory and like get big clicks

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<v Speaker 1>and get headlines It's just not me. It never has

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<v Speaker 1>been me. I wasn't that guy when I was hosting.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not that type of a journalist, and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>that type of a person. We're not that type of

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<v Speaker 1>people in our own lives. And I guess my main

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<v Speaker 1>thing is what you get on the podcast is genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>who Lauren and I are. We don't joke and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that stuff when we're with our friends, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do it here. I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is I maintain the same level of decorum. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you are that kind of shock person in

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<v Speaker 1>life where you're going to talk about you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even want to go there, but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, then then great, that's you. But that's just

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<v Speaker 1>that's never been us, So why fake it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's just that line of like, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>like we want to connect with you guys, and we

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<v Speaker 3>love connecting with you, but there's just I think that

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<v Speaker 3>there's some things and it's different for everybody what your

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<v Speaker 3>threshold is.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you give it all away.

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<v Speaker 3>I had someone tell me once, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>give away too many pieces of yourself or you'll have

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<v Speaker 3>nothing left O interesting, and I thought that that has

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<v Speaker 3>stuck with me as like a simple but clear way

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<v Speaker 3>of looking at it. That as much as I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's power in sharing and relating to each other, some stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, and by the way, there's some stuff I

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<v Speaker 3>would like only tell my mom, or some stuff I

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<v Speaker 3>would maybe only share with my best friends, and that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of keeps those relationships special in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here's a question from Serena that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting because I've actually never asked you this. Lz.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of all the bat I love, everyone just calls

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<v Speaker 1>you Alzo out of all the bachelors, who is most

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<v Speaker 1>your type?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Well you weren't a bachelor. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you were.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what is funny about that. I used to

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<v Speaker 3>say this all the time when I was covering the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I never found any of the guys attractive. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean that in like a rude way. I just

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<v Speaker 3>think there was this wall, and it even was a

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<v Speaker 3>wall that existed with you and I until we always

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<v Speaker 3>say we literally luckily kind of ran into each other

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<v Speaker 3>off of the red carpet and saw each other in

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<v Speaker 3>this different way. But I think there was one this

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<v Speaker 3>wall of like I just always looked at them as

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<v Speaker 3>in this workplace environment way where I didn't even think

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<v Speaker 3>about them that way. But two, not to like age myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm in my mid thirties, but they always

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<v Speaker 3>all even though some of them were probably older than me,

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<v Speaker 3>they always felt young to me, like younger than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I felt like, I don't know, maybe not maternal,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, on the one hand, I had to ask

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<v Speaker 3>them deep questions. On the other hand, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>felt they were trusting me with a lot of vulnerable

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<v Speaker 3>things they were sharing. So I felt protective of them

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<v Speaker 3>because I kind of knew a little bit of how

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<v Speaker 3>the show worked, and I knew how intense it was,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I tried to be respectful and protective of

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<v Speaker 3>what I would, you know, how I did interviews and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe I wasn't always successful, but so I just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't look at them in that way. Like Ben Higgins

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<v Speaker 3>was the first bachelor I ever interviewed, and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of my friends like Ben was a popular bachelor. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people thought he was cute. Ben seems like

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<v Speaker 3>a little brother to me, Like I was like, oh, oh, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, By the way, y'all have that relationship. In real life,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all very much have.

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<v Speaker 3>That, which I think is why it's great that like

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<v Speaker 3>we were such great friends with him a jest, because

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<v Speaker 3>it seems so how like is Ben like sunlike to

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<v Speaker 3>you or is he? I don't know all of them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know they've become.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ben and Wells you feel a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, our relationship has evolve in the beginning, when they

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<v Speaker 1>are the backs of the backs already, well, it changed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting question. So back in the day, the Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Guineas Andrew Firestones and all that, I think because I

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<v Speaker 1>was so new, I felt like I was in my

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<v Speaker 1>infancy in the show, and I was learning along with them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were a lot closer in age. Firestone and

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<v Speaker 1>I are not that far apart. Bob Ginny and I

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<v Speaker 1>are very close in age.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bob's the only one who's older than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Only like a year there was.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bass Fisherman Byron Velvick who was older than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Womax right there with me. So there are a few.

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<v Speaker 1>But like back in the day, I think my infancy

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<v Speaker 1>and growing went along with them, and I felt a

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<v Speaker 1>little closer. But then it became more I was more

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<v Speaker 1>of a producer slash father figure, taking them under my wing,

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<v Speaker 1>really trying to help them emotionally and otherwise. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I would try to advise them after the show and

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<v Speaker 1>they would lean on me in that way. Then subsequently,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the relationships grew, whether it's like Michelle Money and

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Weir becoming just really good friends of ours, Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Higgins Wells, for sure, we've we those Ashley I and

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<v Speaker 1>Jared I don't know why I still call her Ashley I,

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<v Speaker 1>but our relationships have grown because they've grown as adults

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<v Speaker 1>and Jadent Tanner having babies, and Ari and Lauren same thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's grown up in those life phases have hit.

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<v Speaker 3>They're also a key to like once the show's over, Literally,

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<v Speaker 3>once that season was shover and interviews are over, you

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<v Speaker 3>were able to look at it, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at different Well we it's kind of like you

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<v Speaker 1>and I dating. We end up in rel in different

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<v Speaker 1>situations now where it's not all about them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the spotlight's not one hundred percent on them, and it's reciprocal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the relationship becomes a little bit more even because

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<v Speaker 1>my job as host is to take care of you,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with you, And it's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>about you.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way.

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<v Speaker 3>That was why and that is why you're such a

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<v Speaker 3>great host, is because you know that you were. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>justuting you, but I'm always proud of your skill. You

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<v Speaker 3>make it look easy, but you made it about the person.

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<v Speaker 3>You made it about you know, your interviewing them and

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<v Speaker 3>it's their story, and not every host does that. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of the things that first attracted me to

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<v Speaker 3>you is how you foster relationships with people like You've

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<v Speaker 3>maintained and built and grown friendships with all these people

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<v Speaker 3>from the show for more than twenty years. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know another host. I literally can't name another host

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<v Speaker 3>who's who created this phone tree of a family, of

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<v Speaker 3>a world of friends like you did from the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very real. And the way that you, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you were just when we were at Edgewood, You're

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<v Speaker 3>texting with Ben and Wells and they're telling you like

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<v Speaker 3>good job, like great, great shot, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the sweetest moments, like day one, after I

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<v Speaker 1>got done with Edgwood, one of the first calls I

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<v Speaker 1>got was from Ben. He had been watching and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like he knew I didn't have a great day. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a horrible day. But he's like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you feeling? Just being in the positive number?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we had this long talk and it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a good life coach.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just very positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Came back in the room, You're like, who was that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was talking to Bend. It was

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<v Speaker 1>He's just that suite of a guy. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of skipped over something. Kudos and congratulations and

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<v Speaker 1>blessings to Ashley and Jared just had their baby boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden Cruz. What a cutie, What a cute name.

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<v Speaker 3>I well, they texted us and you instantly said love

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<v Speaker 3>that name. And I instantly said, guys, is that for

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<v Speaker 3>Hayden Christensen and Tom Cruise. There's such movie buffs and

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<v Speaker 3>what a cutie, what a great head of hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love that. I felt so touched that. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I just adore them both so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Ashley, I was one of the first women who I

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<v Speaker 3>really like interviewed and connected with from the show, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've just she and I once had a we got

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<v Speaker 3>together and we grabbed dinner and we were both like

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<v Speaker 3>talking about being single, and it just makes me so

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<v Speaker 3>happy where we both are now, and they're just one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best love stories.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a word for most evolved. Its changed, Ashley.

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<v Speaker 3>And like a love story that I don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 3>thought not, but it was like, oh my god, they

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<v Speaker 3>really did this ever happened?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it did. It happened, and then it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out to be so beautiful and they just had their

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's healthy little baby, Hayden Ashley doing great. I assumed

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<v Speaker 1>you're assume great, but congratulations. We send them all our love.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that was such awesome news this week.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I think it's I just realized because

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about you in the Ages of the Bachelor's.

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<v Speaker 3>That really speaks to how the leads got younger over

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<v Speaker 3>the years, doesn't it. Because when you first started, you

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<v Speaker 3>were what thirty, yes, and you were the age of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bachelor's and then some of them were older than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I just had my son and then Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>was born two years into.

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<v Speaker 3>It, right, But I'm just talking about your age and

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<v Speaker 3>like their age, and then over time, so really, from

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<v Speaker 3>the onset of the show, the lead was thirty year

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<v Speaker 3>older and then over time it became like twelve, the

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<v Speaker 3>lead is twenty three, the lead is twenty four. That

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<v Speaker 3>it's a big difference I still over over time. I

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<v Speaker 3>actually think that's one of my like still critiques of

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<v Speaker 3>the show. It wasn't I was covering it and it

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<v Speaker 3>is now. I think it's more grounded and powerful when

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<v Speaker 3>the lead is early thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Casting definitely struggled with access to successful people who you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stopped who oh, who would like have coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of their career.

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<v Speaker 1>The days are undying a Bob Guiney or a Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Firestone or someone like you know, we're you know, looking

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<v Speaker 1>for those diamonds in the rough. That hugely successful thirty

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<v Speaker 1>something was just harder to get or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they just stopped trying and they're like, great, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get a teenager.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, younger people have a little more big emotional swings.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll stick with show stuff, Ernie said Chris. What was

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<v Speaker 3>one moment while filming The Bachelor the Bachelorette that looking

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<v Speaker 3>back still makes you absolutely cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two moments. One was on a show called Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>Pad and it was a short lived game show where

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<v Speaker 1>paradise came out of this but for a year or two,

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<v Speaker 1>we did Bachelor Pad and it was so cheap. We

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<v Speaker 1>shot it literally in the driveway of the mansion you

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<v Speaker 1>would they lived in the mansion, and then the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>were outside on the driveway in the summer one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty degree heat. It was hilarious how cheap the

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<v Speaker 1>show was done. But that was the start of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it shows start, which is also fun. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, creative part of TV is when you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting a cush Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I learned from working at a startup where

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<v Speaker 3>I was at before ET was like our CEO taught

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<v Speaker 3>me and was so smart about don't spend money when

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have it yet, like start, make the product great,

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<v Speaker 3>make the idea great, like make it a success basically,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the money will follow and you can polish

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<v Speaker 3>it up then.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the time, the summer show concept was a leap.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you know, in the middle of the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when that is the death of TV. The

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<v Speaker 1>network was just like, look, just can you make something

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<v Speaker 1>that will lead into the fall schedule to try and

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<v Speaker 1>promote the fall schedule and just kind of using us

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<v Speaker 1>as a jumping off point and so we created this

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor pad and it was a quarter of a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on the line in this prisoner's dilemma. But back

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<v Speaker 1>to the cringe moment. I lived about six miles from

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<v Speaker 1>the mansion, a very short drive. It just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be that way. I had nothing to do with the mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>They they chose that in a gore hills. They say, Malibu,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gore Hills. I lived in Westlake Village, six

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<v Speaker 1>miles away. So when I was there all day, especially

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<v Speaker 1>Bacher Pad, we'd be on set and oftentimes for the

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<v Speaker 1>bacher or bacherette, the kids would come over, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they came. I knew they were coming that day during

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<v Speaker 1>this challenge in the driveway, the challenge was how long

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<v Speaker 1>can you hold your significant other? But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>literal challenge, how long could you hold them? We stripped

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<v Speaker 1>everybody down into their either their skivvies, bikini.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean hold like hug or hold up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air well.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the whole thing. Sorry to have it to hold,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know how we did the play on

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<v Speaker 1>words to have it to hold, but you had to

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<v Speaker 1>actually hold them. We put them up in a harness

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<v Speaker 1>hoisted them above the driveway about ten feet in the

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<v Speaker 1>air over matts, and you had to hold your significant

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<v Speaker 1>other as long as you possibly could. Okay, so imagine

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<v Speaker 1>everybody shirtless, sweaty in there, you know, the guys in

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<v Speaker 1>their trunks, ladies in bikinis, and how you would hold

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to stay aloft. You would straddle them and hold

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<v Speaker 1>on with all your might. So this is happening. We're

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes into this challenge, and you're seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cracks and crevices and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh in the air and their underwear.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look back is I'm watching this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see my children who were young at the time, young Joshua,

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<v Speaker 1>young Taylor, with eyes wide, and I'm thinking, man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to cost me a lot in therapy. Later

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<v Speaker 1>they were just like Dad, what because you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>think about, you know, take dad to work or take

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<v Speaker 1>the kids to work, and it's like, you're at the

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<v Speaker 1>accounting firm, you're a teacher, you're a scientist, you're a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Job.

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<v Speaker 1>What does dad do for a living that he's announcing

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<v Speaker 1>doing play by play for this?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, that would be like if your dad was a

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<v Speaker 3>doctor and you went to work and you walked in

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<v Speaker 3>on him like exam some.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly with this, you know, doing a rectal exam.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the worst part of that shit. We just

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<v Speaker 2>walked it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a moment where it just I just

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<v Speaker 1>laughed for I'm like, oh man, how do I even

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<v Speaker 1>explain this to my kids. The other one was the

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Pavelka Vienna interview late at night when it just

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<v Speaker 1>got so awkward and it just dissolved. That was like

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<v Speaker 1>a real cringe moment.

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<v Speaker 2>What were you feeling in that moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? It was. It was the Perfect Storm? Do you

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>guys know that that movie The Perfect Storm of George

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<v Speaker 1>Coloni and Mark Wehlberg on the boat where they they're

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<v Speaker 1>about to die and then all of a sudden they

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<v Speaker 1>made it, and the caes are calm and they're excited

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<v Speaker 1>and exuberant because they didn't make it. They're in the

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<v Speaker 1>eye of the storm and they realized, oh no, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just in the eye of the storm. We're about to

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<v Speaker 1>go through the worst of it. That was the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I had come to this amicable agreement and

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<v Speaker 1>we made it out where hey, I'll take credit for

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<v Speaker 1>my part, you take credit for your part. Okay, bygones,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on. That's what the whole interview is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Then I realized we were just in the

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<v Speaker 1>eye of the hurricane and the rest of it hit

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<v Speaker 1>and it just melted down and it got really bad,

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and so and she stormed off and was crying and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to chase her down, and Jake was it

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<v Speaker 1>was really bad. That was a cringe moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like. And the thing is, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people don't know this about you. You don't love

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<v Speaker 3>like uncomfortable situations.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and I don't when it comes to television.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I would feel differently on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I realized, because I will lean into him like

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<v Speaker 1>I i in my life. Oddly I don't. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing with this one was we probably weren't even going

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<v Speaker 1>to air this. We'd been shooting all night and then

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<v Speaker 1>we brought them in. It was like two in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning or something. And I remember driving home and again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only like five ten minutes from the mansion. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>driving home and I got a call from an executive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, tell me what happened. I'm like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean, what happened? Why are you calling me? At

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty in the morning and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was there any hint of physicality or physical altercation? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Lord, no, God no, and he's like, okay,

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>we got a call that Jake got aggressive, and I said, well,

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>there was yelling, it got very contentious, but in no

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<v Speaker 1>way was there anything physical at all. Like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have stood for it, Big PAULI was right there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way he would have stood for it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way. But word got out, and I don't know

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>who leaked it, who leaked it on purpose, but we

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<v Speaker 1>ended up having to show the interview we were never

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<v Speaker 1>going to show because we had then had to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that that didn't happen. It was ugly, but that didn't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>You were never going to show that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because the whole point of the interview was to

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<v Speaker 1>try and just amicably in this, like, hey, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>show that this wasn't as bad as it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it dissolved and we're like I walked into the

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<v Speaker 1>control room and one of the producers said to me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably not even going to air this, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go like we wanted it to. It just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>what they were looking for. They were looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>resolution not But didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>That become And forgive me because I actually wasn't watching

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<v Speaker 3>the show at this time. I've seen like little clips

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<v Speaker 3>of this over the years. Didn't that become one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most stand out, dramatic wild moments in the show's

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<v Speaker 3>history And it became one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my most iconic quotes where they were yelling about

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs and I finally just said, nobody cares about

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the dog, Like, no, the point was nobody, Like, you know,

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>when people are fighting about something, they that's not at

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>all what they're fighting about. They were fighting about this

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<v Speaker 1>dog or something, and I just remember going, guys, this

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with the dog. Let's get to

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>what we're really fighting about.

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<v Speaker 2>But why on earth would they not air that?

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Back then? It was you know, we were really specific

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<v Speaker 1>about what they were looking for, and that just I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it wasn't it. And then, of course I think

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>one of the producers, one of the executive producers, probably

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>knew this was gold.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that changed the trajectory of the show,

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>like what types of stuff you want? You went for?

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Started airing after.

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<v Speaker 1>That, probably because you know, I think, you know, the

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Jason Mesnik moment with Molly Melissa definitely changed the trajectory.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>After that was before and then there was the you

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>know that moment with Jake where where you know, Jake

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>was very beloved as about I did very well, and

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>then to kind of show him maybe as a villain.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, we we would net we usually protected our

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>the franchise star, whoever the Bachelor bacherette was would always

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<v Speaker 1>be protected. And then it really came to a head

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>with one Pablo. That was when producers said, the gloves

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>are off. If he's going to go this direction, we're

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>not going to protect him by protected.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mean like you didn't show the reality maybe

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 3>if maybe if the personality, like maybe.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>If somebody said something uh inappropriate, maybe made a gaff

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>on a date, maybe said something dumb, maybe did something dumb,

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe you wouldn't show that, like maybe if they drank

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>too much on a date, and.

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Say, because your lead needs to be desirable, yeah.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Like the that's the whole premise, especially early on, was

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to make it more filtered and more glossy. You know

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>this you have this hero and this Ken doll figure

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>or this Barbie doll figure keep that illusion alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, And was there also an element of I feel

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 3>like I'm feeling like when I used to interview you

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 3>for the show. Was there also an element of if

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 3>you like threw your lead under the bus, then they're

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>going to turn on you. And you needed them, You

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>needed to be on the sun page.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>So I told them, yeah, because once you turned on them,

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you know again. But usually when you would turn on

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<v Speaker 1>them would be it.

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>And I don't really by the way, I don't even

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>really mean throw them under the bus. I mean, right, didn't.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Show exactly who they are?

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean it's Look, it's that hard.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Thing too, because nobody's nobody. Look, nobody's perfect, none of us.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So if you tape us twenty four to seven, none

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of our interviews are always going to go well whatever.

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>But here's the exactly Here's what also evolved was you

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the viewer, and it got to the point where you

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>couldn't hide those things. Social media, the lady started to

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>speak out. Everybody had a platform, and so you couldn't

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I hate to say lie, but you couldn't

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>fabricate things as well as you produce them over Yeah,

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it was a lot harder to gloss over anything

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>because you all demanded it. You all became so much

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>smarter as viewers. And that is where I think reality

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>TV gets in trouble is those that still try to

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>do it the old fashioned way. You can't. You have

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot more forthright and honest in your

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>producing and in what you're showing. A lot of things

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>evolved to lead to that. Social media was a big

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Carol says, what's the status of Merrit Street?

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>You never talk about it. I'll start with number one, Carol,

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you for the question. Merritt Street is great, it's stronger, growing,

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it is phenomenal. But two things. One Lauren and I

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>this is one thing we really never even discussed, but

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>we both believe in this work in the dark. Celebrate

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>in the light. We like to work and below the level,

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the surface level, get all the stuff done, and then

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>when it debuts then you can, you know, everyone can

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>rejoice in it and enjoy it. Right now, we're in

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the doldrums of summer. To be quite honest, the student

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>was dark. I mean, I know they're still doing news

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>at Mayor Street daily, but like doctor Phil is dark,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody is kind of out of town everything in Hollywood,

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>but the extension of Hollywood is Texas and everywhere else

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in production is pretty quiet right now, as are LZ

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and I. We've been on our vacations and doing our stuff,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>so we're getting back to it in earnest very quickly.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, we've had a little we've all enjoyed a

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>little summer Vaca. But everything's going great at Mayor. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had a good year. I mean, obviously the launch of

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<v Speaker 1>a network is daunting, but the show that we're creating

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<v Speaker 1>and working on with doctor Phil and I've been appearing

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and more shows will be airing soon. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>all be coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get emotional and advicey with this next question.

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<v Speaker 3>This is such a great question from Jacqueline. How did

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<v Speaker 3>you know it was time to get a divorce? I

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<v Speaker 3>am struggling with that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to ask you this question. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just looking at the questions and I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>would be a great one for both of us. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would like you to start so, because you're so

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<v Speaker 1>good at this. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That this is a sort of a simple gauge, but

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<v Speaker 3>I've given this advice to people before. No marriage ends

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<v Speaker 3>in one moment, Like, you know, I don't know, even

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<v Speaker 3>if you find out something about someone or whatever, you

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<v Speaker 3>find out they lied to you, like you have to

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<v Speaker 3>break that down, you have to work through it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be ready.

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<v Speaker 3>But a simple gauge for me looking back was I

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<v Speaker 3>would pull into the driveway and not really want to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the house. I think I knew, like I

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<v Speaker 3>just knew walking in would be conflict, me feeling like

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<v Speaker 3>I had to take care of a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of weight, And that was kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>striking moment for me of you know, relationships shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>like this, and there's a lot of factors that went

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<v Speaker 3>into it. You know, it's never just one person's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's rarely just one person's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>But like.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think, ultimately, I don't know, divorce gets such

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<v Speaker 3>a bad rap. And I find that when people are

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<v Speaker 3>asking me this question, it's because they feel that it's

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<v Speaker 3>negative and that it's bad. And I don't think divorce

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<v Speaker 3>is bad. I think it can be sad, but I

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<v Speaker 3>know a lot of people who are really grateful they

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<v Speaker 3>got divorced. You know, relationships end for a reason, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's helpful to shift your mindset from like

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't failed, you haven't done anything wrong, like this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't working and it's going to be better for both

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<v Speaker 3>of you to potentially move forward. Now that being said,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm simplifying it, divorce isn't always the answer. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you can work through things. But that's my simple answer.

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<v Speaker 3>I pulled in the driveway and I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the house very deep one.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of layers to that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was thinking about changing agents early on,

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<v Speaker 1>and my uncle as a lawyer, and I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lawyer at the time, and I needed some help

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this contract and I asked his advice, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, Chris, think of this moment, like relationships, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to just hop in and out of a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of them. And that would be the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, is, look, we don't want to use divorce,

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<v Speaker 1>go through them like M and M's and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>treat it like it's this revolving door and every time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the road gets tough, you bail. But with

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<v Speaker 1>that said, my mom had this great line and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never forget it. When you can no longer affect change,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to leave. And I think that's really valuable

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. Fight the good fight. Try, whether it's therapy, communication,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that's ailing you and your loved one,

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<v Speaker 1>fight that fight, and you know, because I also believe

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<v Speaker 1>that you know when every stone has been turned over

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<v Speaker 1>and you've tried, then you can leave with your head

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<v Speaker 1>held high that you did that. But when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you can no longer affect change,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you can no longer achieve happiness for either

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<v Speaker 1>one of you, and it's quite to the opposite and

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<v Speaker 1>the detriment of both of you physically, mentally and emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's not only okay. I think it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>move on. I had kids when I got divorced, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feared the worst that I was going to harm them.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Nobody wants their kids to be a product

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<v Speaker 1>of divorce.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my kids are, but at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they are healthier. They are now seeing their

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<v Speaker 1>dad madly in love with an amazing relationship. Their mom

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<v Speaker 1>has gone on and gotten remarried. She's in a wonderful relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more powerful and important that they have

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<v Speaker 1>seen their parents grow as human beings, remain friends, remain

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<v Speaker 1>co parents, find love. And they were at my ex

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<v Speaker 1>wife's wedding to her new husband, they were at our wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>So they're very much a part of this love story

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<v Speaker 1>and they've seen that love can still exist and that

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<v Speaker 1>you can still find that. So I think those messages

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<v Speaker 1>are just as important.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all think a lot about like we

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<v Speaker 3>worry about what we'll be losing and the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>or we think like like you just said, well, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a product of divorce now, and you're thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd want them to be in a married home, and sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but like that's thinking about this fantasy of a path, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the reality, And you can shift your mind

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<v Speaker 3>and think about the other option, the other potential fantasy,

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<v Speaker 3>you finding new love, your kids seeing you in new love.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's power in kids seeing that you know

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<v Speaker 3>their parents have gone through struggle and overcome, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>helps them know I'm going to go through tough things,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll be okay. And so we kind of have

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<v Speaker 3>to think about what could be the positives in this

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<v Speaker 3>outcome too. Like I said, I don't think divorce is bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's hard. I think it's sad. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's challenging. But uh, but it can be ultimately really

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<v Speaker 3>good and it helps to shift that mindset. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're so right. I just want to go back

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit on what I said, because, as I

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<v Speaker 3>said my comment, there was a simple gauge. I pulled

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<v Speaker 3>up in the driveway and I didn't want to go

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<v Speaker 3>in the house. That didn't just happen one time. That

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<v Speaker 3>happened many times. You know, it wasn't like the one

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<v Speaker 3>time it happened. I said, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want you do want to know I did all I

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<v Speaker 3>could here? You want to put in enough effort like

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<v Speaker 3>try and say I've done all I can. And it

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<v Speaker 3>helps to know that before you walk away. And to

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<v Speaker 3>your point about your mom's quote, I think that's so

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<v Speaker 3>smart in that to me, the biggest barometer in almost

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<v Speaker 3>any relationship isn't people making mistakes. It isn't them being flawed.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't can I deal with their personality or do

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<v Speaker 3>they do too many things wrong? It's effort. Do they

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<v Speaker 3>make effort to grow, to change, to be better. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're with someone who isn't making effort and hasn't made

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<v Speaker 3>effort in a long time, what are you doing there?

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<v Speaker 3>Because we only get one life, and if someone won't

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<v Speaker 3>try for you, I think that's the most painful thing

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<v Speaker 3>in a relationship, is feeling like this person isn't trying

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to that point. Talking about divorce, yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>has a negative connotation, but I think it's funny. People say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to quit, it's easy to leave. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's easier to stay. I would say this thought of, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>starting over is so hard. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>single in my thirties, in my forties, in my fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>and my life is too long and equally too short

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<v Speaker 1>to not find real love, real friendship, real companion, to

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<v Speaker 1>find what Elsie was just talking about, someone who actually

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<v Speaker 1>supports you and empowers you and wants to be there

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<v Speaker 1>for you. The thought of, oh, you know, our finances

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<v Speaker 1>are so intertwined, it would be so hard to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of unwind all this and oh there's this and the

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<v Speaker 1>parents and stop that stuff will take care of itself.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it seems daunting, and it seems like such

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<v Speaker 1>a big wave coming at you. But when you deal

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<v Speaker 1>with things, any any big thing like this in life,

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<v Speaker 1>when you deal with it one bite at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>you will get there. And so again I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>this to encourage you, but don't let that be the

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<v Speaker 1>reason you stay, just because the fear of dating and

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<v Speaker 1>starting over and all that, I would say, don't let

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<v Speaker 1>that hinder you.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked where we went today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little silly, a little looking back at the past,

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<v Speaker 3>a little looking into the future, a little deep.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I like Q and A because you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what topics will take us where uh, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to kind of you know what it does. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of opens up a little lane of communication for

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<v Speaker 1>you and I.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so true.

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<v Speaker 3>Selfishly, thank you guys for being our therapists, or at

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<v Speaker 3>least the uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you're you're posing the questions a therapists would pose,

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<v Speaker 3>and then here we are. We appreciate you all, We

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<v Speaker 3>love you all so much, and wherever you're at on

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<v Speaker 3>your journey, know that we are wishing you the very

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<v Speaker 3>best and we love your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Please keep sending them in to us because we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks

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