1 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Annie Rees and 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren foc Obam and we're doing another fictional foods episode. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Indeed we are, and this time we're talking about Willy 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and or Charlie and the 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Chocolate Factory really really both. Yes, yes, hopefully by now 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: I've overcome my fear and rewatched it. And uh I 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: know this because I am a person that exists that 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I have not overcome my fear. Well maybe by the 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's happening. This is all happening today. Yeah, 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: no you haven't. Yeah, we didn't realize that this was 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna be such a quick turnaround. Um so no, I haven't. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: But hopefully we can have a we're thinking about maybe 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: I'll watch party right well, because the thing is is 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: that Annie has not seen Willie Wonka and the Chocolate 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Factory since she was what like eight date and scared 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: me so badly, which I think is fair. I mean, 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a creepy film. Yeah, and I really do appreciate, Um, 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I like how I just said, Yeah, Like you're totally correct. 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: It makes me feel validated that I'm not just a 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: big coward. But I appreciate all the listeners who have 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: written in and said that young Annie was onto something 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: because Gene Wilder purposefully played the character that way to 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: be deceptive and like you can't trust anything that he does. Well, 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: I mean that's just the that's a the character. But 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: be certainly neither of the movies have stepped back from that. 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: They both have a very whimsically haunting kind of kind 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: of vibe to them. And oh oh, and I think 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: we might be able to play a clip from from 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: from that amazing pure imagination song that Gene Wilder sangs 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: in the original. Will be with traveling in the world 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: of my creation? What will see will explanation. I fell 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: in love with him that day. Creepy, creepy love, creepy, 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: coepy love, whimsically haunting love. I love that descriptor. I'm 34 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: going to adopt that one. Lauren Okay so um. Who 35 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: is Willy Wonka? What are we talking about? Willy Wonka 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: is a fictional master chocolate teer, candy maker, and force 37 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: of chaos and imagination who appeared first in the book 38 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, published in nineteen sixty four 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: by author Roald Dahl, right, not Ronald, as I thought 40 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: growing up. Role it's it's it's a Norwegian word and 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I heard an origin name. It's both, I suppose. I'm 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: pretty sure there's an extra like syllable worth of vowel 43 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: sound that I'm not pronouncing correctly at the front of it. 44 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: But but she is not saying Ronald absolutely is not. 45 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: It is certainly not. Ronald Dahl was born in South 46 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Wales of Norwegian parents in nineteen sixteen. He went to 47 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: a boarding school in England, served as a fighter pilot 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: in World War Two, moved to the United States to 49 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: be a secret intelligence officer for the British government, and 50 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: then started a family and a career writing short fiction 51 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: for adults and later on children's books. He settled down 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: after his very exciting life. I'm not sure if settled 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: is the correct word. There's there's a lot of sort 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: of like like lore out there about roaldal. He seems eccentric. 55 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: I I never would have guessed. Never he survived a 56 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: plane crash during World War Two, and just this staggering 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: amount of family tragedy and and what was by many 58 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: accounts both deeply charming and unpleasant Wonka s perhaps perhaps 59 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: his his sense of humor, perhaps because of all of this, 60 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: and in case you couldn't tell, is quite dark. Um, 61 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, I think the movies have done like a 62 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: perhaps two good job of conveying that. So, yeah, your 63 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: fear is appropriate. And and if I may offer a 64 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: passage from the book that is a gentle example of this, 65 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: and also a pun puns might ease my my reservations 66 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, there's a lot of them rolled all 67 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: loves them all right. Um. They passed a yellow door 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: on which it said store room number seventy seven. All 69 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: the beans, the cow beans, coffee beans, jelly beans, and 70 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: has beans, but has beans. Cried violet Beauregard your one, yourself, 71 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: said Mr Wonka, sick bird, all violet dang. But ah 72 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: yeah that The book was a hit and would go 73 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: on to be considered a classic. Right. Part of the 74 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: book's fame, though, is certainly due to a successful movie 75 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: adaptation released in nineteen seventy one, the one that we've 76 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: been talking about mostly here, starring Gene Wilder and featuring 77 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: this grand scenery and and moralistic musical numbers. Moralistic musical 78 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: lumbus be good or chocolate tar will kill you and 79 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: your family. Okay, yeah, probably not. In the book, it's 80 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: clear that they all survive, is it. Yeah, my child 81 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: my child brain is like, did not pick up on that. 82 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if the movie specified Oh jeez, oh jeez. 83 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: I have quite the imagination too, So who knows? Who 84 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: knows what was going through my mind? Um. An interesting 85 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: thing about this movie is that around the time it 86 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: was made, the US film industry was bouncing back from 87 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: near collapse. Studios, which were the only ones that could 88 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: get movies distributed, were more and more looking for outside funding. 89 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: When the vice president of the Woolport Organization, Mel Stewart, 90 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: at the behest of his ten year old daughter, was 91 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to get Charlie and the Chocolate Factory turned into 92 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: a movie, Wolpert put him in touch with the Quaker Oats, 93 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: the Quaker Oats Company. Yes, they were looking. They were 94 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: working on a new chocolate candy bar, and they saw 95 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: an opportunity. Yes, what if an exchange for funding the film? 96 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Quaker Oats released that chocolate bar when the movie came 97 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: out and essentially got a movie like the commercial out 98 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: of it. Dallars signs daughter signs Daughter signs. They would 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: call it the Wonka Bar. Hints by the movie is 100 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Willy Wonka on the Chocolate Factory and not Charlie and 101 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the Chocolate Factory, which I've always wondered about. Quaker Oats. 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: The Quaker Oats did finance the movie and a major 103 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: candy company got it start from it. The Wanka Bar 104 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: never came to fruition Unquaker, not under Quaker. Yeah, they 105 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: were never satisfied with the recipe, which I kind of respect. 106 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: They were like, no, not good enough. They did, however, 107 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: come out with peanut butter umpahs, which I only can 108 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: assume are like Reese's Pieces and super scrunch bars. Have 109 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: no idea what those might be, but maybe crunch bars. Um. 110 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: When the Wonka Bar finally did come out years later, 111 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it was from the Willy Wonka Candy Company, and that 112 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: is the aforementioned company that got its start under Quaker. 113 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Then they branched out on their own and were eventually 114 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: acquired by nest Lee in the early eighties. In addition 115 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: to Wonka Bars, Nestley released all kinds of candies like 116 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: like nerds and Laffy Taffy pixie sticks, Sweet Tarts and 117 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: some everlasting gob Stoppers under the Wonka brand. Uh. They've 118 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: they've dialed back branding efforts though in the past few years. 119 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: And I think it might be a technically defunct line 120 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: that just kind of uses the the Wonka logo on 121 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: some stuff. Oh I I it reminds me of the 122 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: There was a Willy Wonka section in the Toys Irras 123 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: that now r I P Toys r As both in 124 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: general but also specifically the one on Times Square in 125 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: New York at that big Ferris Wheeld. But there was 126 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: like a Willy Wonka candy experimentation area that you could 127 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: go to. And um, I'm actually not a big candy person. 128 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Even when you were a kid, no no, on Halloween, 129 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: I would get a bunch and sell it Like I 130 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: was not into candy. Um, I sold it at quite 131 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the premium too. Oh I forgot about that, but I 132 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: remember now that's you were an entrepreneur. I appreciate it. 133 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: I made a lot of money. I like chocolate candy, 134 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: but I like Willy Wonka candy. I generally think I 135 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: was kind of like the fruity sour candy and that's 136 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: not my thing. And I like nerds. I always associate 137 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: with Willy Wonka. Anyway, I'm I'm getting away from the 138 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: original point is that you could go and like make 139 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: these candies, and I would always go and never eat them. 140 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: I just like the process of experimenting with candy. It's 141 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: so bright and colorful and whimsical. Of speaking of whimsical, oh, 142 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: is is that what we're speaking of? In two thousand 143 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: and five, Tim Burton would direct a very modern Tim 144 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: burtony version of The Tail under the title Charlie and 145 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: the Chocolate Factory, starring, of course, Johnny Depp and Lena 146 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Bonham Carter have they made many movies together? Just kidding. 147 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: I remember this movie as one of two that I 148 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: have fallen asleep during in a movie theater because the 149 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Potter in the Order of the Phoenix had come out 150 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: the night before, and of course I stayed up until 151 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: midnight and reading it. That's furious with Umbridge, and I 152 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: was crying about a certain character who I won't spoil, 153 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: even though everyone should know by now that died, and 154 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: I fell asleep during Charlie and then back, oh my goodness, Well, okay, 155 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: so it's not a diss on the movie. Have you 156 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: seen it against since then we could do it back 157 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: to back to bank Walk Wonka watching party. Oh my gosh, 158 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: can there be popcorn if? Oh? Of course there can, okay? 159 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh and if we do this, there are a lot 160 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: of real world recipes online, and there are dinner party 161 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: plans available um roll dall published and not necessarily Willy 162 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Wonka themed cookbook called Revolting Recipes. That is a great title, sir, yes, 163 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: um oh. And according to some numbers from Advanced Tech Services, 164 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: it would cost Willy Wonka around two four point six 165 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: million dollars a year to operate his factory, and like 166 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,359 Speaker 1: half of that would go to his flying glass elevator. 167 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: And I don't remember this, but I really want to 168 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: see a flying class elevator. Oh yeah, it's it's it's 169 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: it's not an elevator. It's a walcovator. It can go sideways, 170 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: cross ways, diagonally, yeah, the whole thing, And it can 171 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: burst to the roof and take you on a magical 172 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: journey into space. So it's like the tartest but it's glass. 173 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: It's tartest esque, and it can't go back in time. 174 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: I suppose. I don't think it's a time travel but 175 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't read the sequel to Charlie and 176 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: the Chocolate Factory in a really long time. Charlie and 177 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: the Great Glass Elevator. Oh my goodness, Lauren, have we 178 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: found out the origin story, the true origins sorry, of 179 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Who? And it's been there the whole time? I, 180 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, I can't say not, I can't wait, but 181 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: I but I don't know when the first Doctor Who 182 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: product came out, so I can't make any promises like 183 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: it was X four. And I don't know why I 184 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: think that, but sometimes the number just comes into my 185 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: head and that's the one. Anyway. Last year, City Walk 186 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and Universal Studios Orlando has a real Willy Wonka themed 187 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: chocolate factory called the Toothsome Chocolate Factory. And we saw 188 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: this when Lauren and I recently went on a semi 189 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: work related Disney field trip for Disney World Field Trip Orlando, Orlando, 190 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: and we went, of course, we went to Universal as 191 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: part of that UM and we saw across the lake 192 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: it was a big, steampunky looking factory thing. We did 193 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: not go in. We did not, but we admired it. 194 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Future far future field trip, Future field Trip indeed UM 195 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: and they have freak shakes. They have the bows of 196 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: rasinghas What's what's a freak shake? Oh? What's a freak shake? What? 197 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's like Frankenstein milkshakes. They are these 198 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: huge milkshakes that have like a piece of pie and 199 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: on top of the pie is a piece of cake, 200 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: and on top of there is a some more and 201 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: it's on fire. It's a whole thing. I got one, 202 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: So it's sort of like like a bloody like a 203 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: bloody berry. Yeah. Yeah, um there they are one of 204 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: the very good case of a particular food phenomenon that 205 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: I call instagram herb food or it's mostly for the 206 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: picture and shock value. Yeah, and I mean I got 207 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: one in New York and I enjoyed it, but I 208 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: shared it for sure, like that we one among many 209 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: is plenty. It had like chocolate chip cookies on like 210 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: instead of a rim of salt, it was a rim 211 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: of whole cookies. What yeah goodness, Okay, yeah, it's pretty good. 212 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: But the pictures are really fun to look at. All. Right, 213 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look this up after the show. You must 214 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: must get to the bottom of dr Who and freak ships. 215 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: That's what we're going to be doing immediately after this. Yes, okay, 216 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: So that's sort of the overview of what what we 217 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: are talking about the context of the fiction within the 218 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: fictional food we're going to discuss. Yes, yes, because we 219 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: we have a whole bunch of fun examples of fictional 220 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: food from this media uh branding, and we're going to 221 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: talk about those after we get back from a quick 222 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor and we're back. Thank you sponsoring, Yes, 223 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: thank you. All right. At the very top of this, 224 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: I want to mention I found a very very exhaustive, amazing, stunning, 225 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: quite frankly list from Nerdice that had all of the 226 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: candy and the original Willy Wonka movie ranked ranked in 227 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: order of like would people actually eat this? And it 228 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: was a very fun read because there's so much more 229 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: than we're going to discuss and that I could remember, 230 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: and that's interesting. A lot of the products are very questionable. Um. 231 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: And I also reread the book and preparation for this podcast, 232 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: so so I'm gonna be chiming in with a lot 233 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: of examples from that. Yeah, okay, so um. When the 234 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: winners of the Golden Tickets first enter for their factory tour, 235 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: the first stop is a room where everything, everything inside 236 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: is edible, and you see all kinds of interesting large 237 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: sized candies like lollipop s, gummy beers, cream field mushrooms, 238 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: and candy canes. And then there's those huge chocolate eggs 239 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: later too. It reminds me very much a candy lamb. Sure. Yeah. 240 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: That room that they go into is a whole landscape 241 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: of candy candy growing on trees. The trees themselves are candy. 242 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: In the book, there's also a meadow of soft, minty 243 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: sugar grass that Wonka calls swudge sludge sludge. That's a 244 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: fun word, is uh. And there are but buttercups that 245 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: are actually edible teacups. Yes, you can get things like 246 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: this in real life. I believe, like drinking vessels that 247 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: you can eat. I've seen that. Yeah. Um. And I 248 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: read an entire article about how to accomplish this a 249 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: garden where everything was edible. It involved a lot of 250 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: sugar sculptures, genetic modification, and the miracle berry. Are old friend, 251 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: the miracle berry. Um. Oh, there's the river of chocolate 252 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: in the same room. Yes. Yes, we heard from a 253 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: listener about the trouble of filming nous but hey, it 254 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: looks nice. In the Tim Burton movie they used zero 255 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: C G I for this, but gallons of fake melted chocolate. Wow. 256 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: The Wonka Bar, of course, that's another thing. Um. It 257 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: seems like your basic chocolate bar, but you've got to 258 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: include it's very key to the plot. Yeah, the book 259 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: branches out a little bit the operative chocolate bar in 260 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: it that the one that Charlie finds his golden ticket 261 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: in is Wonka's Whipple scrumptious fudgemallow delight. Is there marshmallow involved? 262 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: There's no description? Oh, the name is the name is 263 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: the description. I can only seem assume that there is 264 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: marshmallow involved. I would guess fudge and whatever. Whipple is 265 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: a tiple of whipple, as they say, Um, there's the 266 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: flavored wallpaper that you can lick. Oh yeah, and they 267 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: all lick it. And it's hard, at least for me 268 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: not to think of how many people have lickd it 269 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: before them, and how many will lick it after Um. 270 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: And this kind of reminds me of those scented fruit 271 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: stamp markers. Oh yeah, I didn't have a stampy version, 272 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: but you have it. So you just colored and just 273 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: the smell. Yeah, I had stamps like I don't know 274 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: why I was amping so many things, but I had 275 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: stamps with grapes, and they smelled like grapes. You know, 276 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: fun times for kids. It's very official. If you need 277 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, I deemed this grateful um. And also scratching sniff. 278 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of reminiscent of scratch and sniff. Just licking taste, 279 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: licking taste. Oh and let's let's talk about liking taste 280 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: from minute um. So there's this other thing about the wallpaper. 281 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: In the movie, Wonka is describing the wall paper flavors 282 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: and says, looking on it tastes like an orange. The 283 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: strawberries tastes like strawberries. The snawsberries tastes like snowsberries. And 284 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: if you're wonder how snausberries are, well, they're not the 285 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: fictional fruit you might have thought. Perhaps yes, or perhaps 286 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: they're not. Uh. They might actually be penises or or testicles. 287 00:17:54,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Maybe are peni The reason some people think this is 288 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: because of Roald Dolls v nine adult novel My Uncle Oswald, 289 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: published fifteen years after Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. It 290 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: revolved around quote greatest faun a kid to have all time, 291 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: time time. Well, the the echo is not quotable. That 292 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: wasn't in there, but I thought it added to it. 293 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Um Oswald who hatches a plot to make loads of 294 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: money by selling the used condoms of famous men to 295 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: ladies looking to give birth to famous kids or you know, 296 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: just the kid of a celebrity. Um goodness. Yes. At 297 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: one point, two of the characters are discussing how to 298 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: get condoms onto less than willing partners, and one describes 299 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: his method as grabbing hold of the snowsberry's and giving 300 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: them a twist or two. However, in a story published 301 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: sixteen years before Charlie and the Chocolate Factory that was 302 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: about Grimlin's, their primary food source is a sweet red 303 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: fruit called snowsberry. Maybe, doll my, this is some adult 304 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: dark humor. Maybe he didn't. Who knows, I've got I've 305 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: got nothing there. Yeah, uh, sorry to bring it up. 306 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: It was the first thing that came up. I was shocked. 307 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I think the headline was this, this 308 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: one fact is going to ruin your childhood? What I'm 309 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I think that probably he was just being playful with 310 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: a well known term, or a relatively well known term yeah, 311 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that the original snowsberries were I I 312 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: don't really know. Yes, mysteries of history. We shall move 313 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: on two. Non melting ice cream. Oh yeah. One of 314 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: Wonka's possible inventions mentioned in the book is a chocolate 315 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: ice cream that stays cold without being in the freezer. 316 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: As Grandpa Joe says, you can even leave it lying 317 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: in the sun all morning on a hot day and 318 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: it won't go running. But that's impossible, said Little Charlie, 319 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: staring at his grandfather. Of course, it's impossible. It's completely absurd. 320 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: But Mr Willy Wonka has done it. The book is 321 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: really delightful. It sounds delightful. It's great anyway. Japan has 322 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: also done it. While trying to figure out what to 323 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: do with a bumper crop of deformed strawberries after the 324 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Toku tsunami and an earthquake, researchers were playing around with 325 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: a strawberry extract and they found that it forces the 326 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: oils and water in cream to hold their shape. But yeah, so, 327 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: with the help of a pastry chef, they've created like 328 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: popsicles that can withstand a hair dryer and soft serve 329 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: ice cream that will catch fire before it melts. That's 330 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: some end of the world stuff right there. Flammable ice cream. 331 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: That's like you wake up out of a coma and 332 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: there's no one around and you go outside on the 333 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: street and there's just this soft serve on fire, and 334 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, something's something's gone down, and that's something is 335 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: food science. Yes, um, okay, the everlasting gop stopper. Okay, 336 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: it looks like and I'm not sure if anyone remembers these, 337 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: but they were called rumble balls. Rumble ball so yeah, yeah, 338 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Lauren knows. They were these brightly colored plastic balls, 339 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: about twice the size of a softball maybe, And um, 340 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: they had these equally bright but differently colored rubber spikes. 341 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: But they weren't like spiky spikes. They were kind of 342 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: maybe pentagons. Yeah, they weren't sharp at the ends. They 343 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: were flat tops totally. Because it was a toy for kids. Um, 344 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: and you turn it on and it would bounce around. 345 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: That was it. That's all it did. Rumble And I 346 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: had one when I was a kid, and my dog 347 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: was so afraid of it, you know, just the side 348 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: of it, Like I didn't even have to turn it on. 349 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: She would see that bright green and pink thing and 350 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: run under the bad Oh. Yeah, but that's what the 351 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: everlasting cap stopper looks like. As the name suggests, they 352 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: purportedly last forever. The candy, not the rumble ball. Um, 353 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: and candy makers don't want them around in the book 354 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: in the movie because if you've got an everlasting candy, 355 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: it might curb your candy needs. Yeah, I mean, that's 356 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: that's why I Wonka designs them in the book, because 357 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: he's looking to create a candy that will serve the 358 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: needs of children with very little pocket money. He's really 359 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: trying to help people out. That's nice. Japan again, Japan 360 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: has a sixty minute candy that's intended Uh. It's intended 361 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: use is for dieters looking to stave off their cravings, 362 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: but it was first made for fishermen who wanted something 363 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: that they could enjoy hands free. So that's kind of 364 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: a real life parallel. Yeah, who knows we could extend 365 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: that sixty minute candy one day. Uh. And there are 366 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: also electric lollipops that fool you into thinking you're enjoying 367 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: the real deal. Um. So that's forever as long as 368 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: it's working. As long as we've had an energy source exactly, forever, 369 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: an optimistic forever. That's what that is. Um. And some 370 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: of these uh, some of these examples were talking about 371 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: remind me of candy you'd find from the Weasley Twins, 372 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Weasley Wizard Weezes of the Harry Potter universe, and exploding 373 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: candy is definitely one. Yep. Yeah, this is a candy you, 374 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: of course give to your enemies. I'm assuming to injure 375 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: or kill them. It's not specified how explosive they are 376 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: if not, and kids are vicious. Um. Gelatin frogs is 377 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: another that I'm guessing JK. Rowling got inspiration from for 378 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: her chocolate frogs. Uh. And I gotta say they sound 379 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: better than the gelatin ones. But that personal preference of mine. Sure, 380 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: I just prefer chocolate, I mean, I like I like 381 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: gummies too. There is a whole great list, though, of 382 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: of Weasley style sweets in the book. Luminous lollies for 383 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: eating in bed at night, stick jaw for talkative parents, 384 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: Invisible chocolate bars for eating in class, wriggle sweets that 385 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: wiggle delightfully in your tummy after swallowing, and hopefully don't 386 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: burst out like an alien. Goodness all right in a 387 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: dark way. No, that's okay. I mean once he once 388 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: you get the explosives in there, and then the wig 389 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: wigglers in there. I don't know. It's a bad day, right, 390 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: um And and I don't think I don't think this 391 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: is particularly an an accident. J. K. Rowling has listed 392 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory as one of the top 393 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: ten books every child should read. Um So I think 394 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: we can safely assume that doll and that this story 395 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: in particular is one of her her influences. Um. Also, 396 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: there are whole fan theories about how George Weasley grows 397 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: up to be a sort of parallel universe Wonka or that, 398 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: like I don't know if time travel is involved, some 399 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: some weird stuff like that. That, Yeah, that's totally George Weasley. Oh, 400 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: I have heard of that. I have heard that theory, 401 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: like up to and including whispers about how George's ear 402 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: being injured in the Battle of Hogwarts is why Wonka 403 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 1: is always saying that he's a little deaf in one ear. Oh, 404 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: it could be. I love fan jories like that. It's delightful. 405 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Um Oh and okay, one more connection here. The producer 406 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: behind Potter Property Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them 407 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: is supposedly developing a Wonka prequel where it's George Weasley. Oh. 408 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but they could cast that one 409 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: of those dudes. They could cast both of them. It 410 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: could be like a Mary Kayt Nashley thing. Oh or 411 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: or one of them gets killed he takes his place. 412 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: Call us. We've got ideas. We are full of most 413 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: of them bad, but every now and then there's a 414 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: there's a real nugget in there. Speaking of ideas, there's 415 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: mentioned in the book of a bunch of different products 416 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: that are in development, butter scotch and butter gin. Butter gin. Yeah, 417 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: that the Limpas get drunk off of butter scotch and 418 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: sodas and purportedly also very much enjoy butter gin and tonics. 419 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: So it's like butter beer. Yeah, oh yeah. Another connection, 420 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: is it alcoholic or not? Is it just magical? Who knows? 421 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: There's no way to know. And there's also the fizzy 422 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: lifting drink. You drink it and then you float. Uh. 423 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: In the movie, this part scared the heck out of 424 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: me because the menacing fan Charlie and it it was 425 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: his Grandpa, Grandpa. Yeah, they were floating helplessly towards it 426 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: after they drink this stuff. And then really, Wanka is 427 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: so disappointed in Charlie, and my child heart was like, 428 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: I can't handle this. Well, it will stole He stole it, 429 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: and he greased up the sides of the of the 430 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: thing with his dirty, dirty child hands. Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. 431 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: It turns out okay in the end, I hope, so 432 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: hopefully this episode will turn out okay in the end. 433 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: But first, before before we find out, we have to 434 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: stop for one more quick break for a word from 435 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. Ah, 436 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: all right, here's here's another one. Yeah, super vitamin candy. 437 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: Super vitamin candy. What could that be? In the book 438 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: at Wanka has a candy that provides you with all 439 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: the vitamins except to vitamin S, which makes you sick, 440 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: and vitamin H, which makes you grow horns on your 441 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: head like a bowl. Of course, H doesn't stand for health. 442 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: It stands for horns, right, That makes way more sense 443 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: in the real world. The first tuable vitamins supplement that 444 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: was aimed at children, called chocks was released in nineteen sixty, 445 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: just a year before Charlie and the Chocolate Factory published 446 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: m hmmm connected. When I was a kid, me and 447 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: my brother had the famous vitamin wars. It's famous to me, 448 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: so it's not famous at all. But he, he and 449 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: I preferred different vitamins and my mom would make us 450 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: take a vitamin every night after dinner. And I liked 451 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: the flint Stone ones and he liked the Dinosaur ones. 452 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: Would always try to find my mom's list, like she 453 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: couldn't tell that, Oh, this is Annie's handwriting. We were 454 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: always trying to My older brother would just put the 455 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: He would take the Flintstone ones out of the cart 456 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: when we were at the store and put the Dinosaur one. 457 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: Kind of candy. I mean, it's a fruity flavor experience 458 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: of it's candy based. It was no super vitamin candy. 459 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: We definitely didn't get any horns. Actually, well, I mean 460 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: the super vitamin candy wouldn't give you the horns. They 461 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: leave out the vitamin h Well that's wise. Yeah, that's wise. U. 462 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: There's also the there's a chocolate bar and a boy 463 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: that are put in a television Lauren. Yeah, there's there's 464 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: a whole part where the Mike TV, one of the 465 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: children uh sees a chocolate bar transported by television and 466 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: then tries it himself and gets shrunk. His name is 467 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Mike TV. Mike TV. It's spelled t e A. I 468 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: see what he did there? Okay? Uh And and no, 469 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: we don't quite have that technology yet. That's some solid 470 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: like Star Trek transporter style technology. And you can see 471 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: our Star Trek episode about all of how that's pretty 472 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: physically impossible according to current science. Yes, but there is 473 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: some preliminary research into digitally teleporting scents and flavors, telep 474 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: drink flavors and sense. Okay, okay, say you have a 475 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: glass of lemonade and you really want to share it 476 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: with someone. Oh, that's nice, they would love it. Yeah, 477 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: but they're across the country. What you do? You submerge 478 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: a sensor that can detect the drinks. The drinks a 479 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: red blue green color profile and it's pH level. Then 480 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: the sensor sends that information to a paired device, a 481 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: special tumbler on your friend's end that's filled with just 482 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: regular old water, but the tumbler is also outfitted with 483 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: colored led lights to replicate the look of the lemonade 484 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: and with electrodes that will set off your your sour 485 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: taste buds, so your buddy can sip the water but 486 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: experience the particular lemonade sensation that you started with on 487 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: your end. You're gonna have to have a lot of 488 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: trust in that, friend, is all I can say. But 489 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: I can see how this guy go very wrong pranking opportunities. 490 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought of that. I'm so earnest and 491 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: so much and only child siblings have taught me very 492 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: much to mistrust anything like this. Just be careful if 493 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: you ever have this opportunity, and perhaps don't prank people 494 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: other folks like my brothers. This is for you. Um. 495 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: And then there is three course gum. And this is 496 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: one that I really wanted to talk about because it's 497 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: been in the news recently. That's rights. Yes, Um, as 498 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: you guess from the name, Wonka invented this to make 499 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: you feel as though you've eaten a three course meal 500 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: after chewing it, and even you get the nutrients as 501 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: though you had just eaten a hearty dinner. Um. Like 502 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: most of his products, he's still tinkering with it, but 503 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't stop Violet Beauregard from popping a piece and 504 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: turning into a massive human blueberry that, if I recall correctly, 505 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: they just sort of rolling out of the factory. They 506 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: take her to the juicing room too, to de juice her. 507 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: She's fine afterwards, just purple forever forever for I think. So. 508 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's quite a that's quite a cocktail, a 509 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: party opener, a conversation starter. Let's get it out of 510 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: the way. I'm prople because of this really wonk experience 511 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: I had. I shouldn't have stolen that work in progress. 512 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: But well, yes, hopefully she learned her lesson um and 513 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: before things went terribly wrong. In the original film version, 514 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Violet described the experience as amazing. It's made of tomato soup, 515 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: ROAs beef and baked potato and blueberry pie. Twberry pie. Yeah, 516 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: that always goes around with the blueberries. That's one of 517 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: my favorite foods. Um. I actually found a recipe for 518 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: making your own at home if you're looking for a project. 519 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: The f a Q about how to do it was 520 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: entertaining or totally enough for me. However, if any of 521 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: you try it, please let us know If you have 522 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: tried it, you want to send us some you know 523 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: where to find us. Yeah, yeah, and you can just 524 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: google uh that yeah, three course of me um. It's 525 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: on in literature dot net. Yes. Yeah. And the reason 526 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: I really wanted to talk about this is because science 527 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: Science Science Science is working on this. What folks at 528 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: the Institute of Food Research think that this might actually 529 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: be possible with the use of nanotechnology. Nanotechnology, those teeny 530 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: tiny millionth of a million millimeter size structures could time 531 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: release flavors. The team working on this, led by David Hart, 532 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: is loosely modeling it after preserves from the seventeenth century 533 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: that use layers of flavorless gelatine to separate out the 534 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: distinct taste. The gel they are using is a bit 535 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: more high tech than what they had in the seventeenth 536 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: century and last doctor who was running around making gum 537 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: um and it's called jelling. Another piece of this three 538 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: course gun puzzle comes from work out of Harvard University 539 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: scientists on colloids MS. We've talked about Colleaud's a bit 540 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: on the show, but here's a very very very simplified 541 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: refreshure um. They're a mixture of large microscopic, insoluble molecules 542 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: dispersed in another substance condensed version. Coloriosomes micro encapsulate things 543 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: by building a stronger capsule structure around the second course 544 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: and even stronger one around the third, all of which 545 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: are broken down with saliva. You ensure the release of 546 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: three separate flavors three different times exactly. However, it wouldn't 547 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: make you full or give you any of the nutrients. 548 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: It's still just begun, but with three different taste. Um. Obviously, 549 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: colordosomes could be used for a wide variety of things 550 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: outside of three chorusmeal gum. Dr Hart got the idea 551 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: for this as a way to motivate a new generation 552 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: of scientists. And here reminds me a bit of Willie 553 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: walkan Is description of the gum to the mechanism exists 554 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: that the technique and flavor needs perfecting to imitating life. 555 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: I tell you right, So that's our that's our really 556 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: Wonka episode fictional Foods, Really Wonka, a very funder research. 557 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this was this was a good This was 558 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: a good one. Um. And yeah, if we figure out 559 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: a way we're trying to figure out a way to 560 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: do like a shared viewing party, like like remote viewing 561 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: where we can all kind of start up the film 562 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: and watch it at the same time, and maybe there 563 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: can be a reaction camera on Annie's face to see 564 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: if she's terrified. Yeah. Yes, I throw the popcorn in 565 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: the air, as I've been known to do, have done 566 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: them many occasions, and then I eat the popcorn because 567 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let it go it away. Of course, no, 568 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: that'd be ridiculous. So if we figure out a way 569 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: to do that, we will absolutely let you guys know, 570 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: possibly on the podcast, definitely on social media, so keep 571 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: an eye out for that. Uh huh. But in the meanwhile, 572 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: this brings us to this man. Okay, Yeah, I was 573 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: doing a Willy Wonka thing and trying to capture some 574 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: of that whimsy. Yeah, So, Drew wrote in I revisited 575 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: the banana episode this morning after realizing that today, which 576 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: was April eighteenth, is Banana Day at Westchester University, my 577 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: alma mater outside of Philadelphia. This is a campus tradition 578 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: that started in the student Activities Council hands out thousands 579 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: of bananas each year, as well as the coveted limited 580 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: edition Banana Day shote that students can win throughout the 581 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Day Banana Day. I know recently the campus health and 582 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: wellness staff have teamed up with the Banana Day to 583 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: discuss healthy diets on campus. Banana Day also recently won 584 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: an award for Best Campus Tradition from the National Association 585 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: for Campus Activities. I thought you might enjoy hearing about 586 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: awesome food relatedst food related campus traditions like Banana Day. 587 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: Oh we did so much. Yeah. I was definitely a 588 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: college student that would skip glass if there was a 589 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: chance of free T shirt. Ah kind of want a 590 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Banana Day T shirt? If I mean, I can't. We 591 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: can't ask anyone and to give up such a coveted 592 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: thing as a free T shirt. But if you know 593 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: where we can get one, we're gonna have to enroll. 594 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: I think that's the only This is a lot, but okay, 595 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it more. Laura wrote as an Oregonian. Oregonian, 596 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed your recent episode about James Beard, and 597 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: I learned a lot about him that I didn't know before. 598 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: As you mentioned in the episode, Beard and his family 599 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: vacationed on the coast in gear Heart, Oregon. There's a 600 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: brewery chain in Oregon called Mcmenimons that operates a hotel 601 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: in gear Heart, and they pay homage to beards legacy. 602 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: Throughout the hotel. There are several artist renderings of Beard, 603 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: including a painting in the bar of him picnicking and 604 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: another painting in an event room of Beard hosting a 605 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: cooking class. The latter painting features Beard using a favorite 606 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: local ingredient in his recipe, or razor clams. Additionally, mcmenimons 607 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: hosts the James Beard Dinner every August at the hotel, 608 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: which is a multi course feast complete with wine pairings. 609 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: The you is based on beards affinity for the Oregon coast. 610 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: While I haven't gotten to attend this dinner yet, I'm 611 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: hoping to someday. James Beard has a great place in 612 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: Oregan's history, but I'm not sure that enough people know 613 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: about him. Thank you for bringing attention to such an 614 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: incredible culinary icon. It was fun. It was a very 615 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: fun episode. It was our pleasure. Yeah, yeah, and oh, 616 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: I hope that you get to go to that James 617 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Beard Dinner sometime. Let us let us know if you do, 618 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: and then tell them about USTe. I think after a 619 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: whole cannibalism fiasco, I'm not sure we're going to get 620 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: invited anywhere. Not If you keep bringing back up, I 621 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: can't help, but I can't forget. Thank you to both 622 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: of them for writing in um. If you would like 623 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: to write to as, you can do so our emails 624 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: food Stuff at hastorks dot com. 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Oh yeah, it's happening tomorrow tomorrow, but 632 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: you can look forward to some It's a lot of 633 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: content that we got out of that trip that's going 634 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: to be coming up in the coming weeks, really exciting 635 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: stuff about urban yeah, so check that out. Thank you 636 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: as always to our super producer Dylan Fagin, who's also 637 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: a really good road trip buddy is. Thanks to you 638 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: for listening, and we hope that lots more good things 639 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: are coming your way.