WEBVTT - Halloween Special 2021: The Fountain Road Files 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.720 Hello, and welcome to this year's Unexplained Halloween's Special with 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.360 me Richard mc lane smith. I truly hope to have 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.440 a new special this year, but sadly I wasn't quite 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.080 able to put it together in time. I don't want 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.040 to leave you empty handed, however, so although some of 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.319 you may have heard these tapes already, for others this 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:25.440 will be an entirely new, horrifying experience. It was back 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.960 in May twenty twenty that the body of Ben Williams 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.320 was found in his flat on Fountain Road in Tooting, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.080 South London. When the police found him, those who saw 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.440 the state of his body had no doubt he'd been murdered. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.400 After a thorough investigation, however, the cause of Ben's death 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:52.199 was judged unknown and labeled simply death by misadventure. But 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:57.040 then they discovered the tapes, an audio diary that Ben 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.280 had been recording of the pandemic in the months before 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:07.119 he died. These are those tapes, raw and unadorned. Make 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:13.120 of them what you will. Happy Halloween, and remember, wherever 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:21.480 you are, it is always the witching hour. Somewhere testing 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:32.679 I think that's working. It's March sixteenth, twenty twenty My 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:38.080 name's Ben Williams, twenty seven. I live in in Twoting 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.000 in London, and yeah, I just got this audio recorder 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.399 because I thought I might keep a diary of what's 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.760 going on at the moment, basically in the middle of 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.360 what some people think might be a global pandemic. Yeah, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:57.560 it's called coronavirus or coronavirus, and yeah, a lot of 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.400 people have died, so it's got a few names. Actually, 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:04.720 it's also called COVID nineteen. There's a big one here, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:11.760 Severe acute respiratory syndrome. Coronavirus two or SARS CoV two 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.800 is another name. They're saying that it's started in Wuhan. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.360 It's a city in China with a like a population 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.160 of something like eleven million people. And I've never heard 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.600 of it before, but that's like, that's bigger than London. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.919 I mean, that's kind of mind blowing in itself. Anyway. Basically, 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.480 in Italy over two thousand people have died already. It's 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.640 kind of getting about of control there. And in China 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.440 it's over three thousand now or what they're saying anyway, 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.320 And yeah, here in the UK it's I think we're 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.040 over fifteen now. Fifty people have died. You know, there's 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.120 already kind of government campaigns telling people to wash their 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.480 hands loads and you know, like avoid big groups and 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.200 even questioning whether people should fly or like travel anywhere. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.560 But yeah, so I guess that's the first diary entry. Um, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:11.920 it's cool the Health Service comparing notes and talking to 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.080 leaders around the world, and I can tell you that 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:20.880 the UK is now leading a growing global campaign amongst 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.280 so I'm just listening now to basically the government started 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.000 doing these live press briefings about the spread of the virus, 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.480 which is pretty sobering. So Prime Minister Boris Johnson has 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.480 just been talking about how they think cases might start 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.400 to double every five or six days, and they're saying 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.480 we need to stop all non essential contact. So yeah, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:50.080 that's a that's a pretty big deal. I was thinking it, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.800 maybe putting a diary together of you know, what's been 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.760 going on, and I don't know, maybe if it gets 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.160 a bit serious and it might be quite interesting, maybe 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.520 put it out as a podcast or something. No one's 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:06.520 going to want to listen to that they might I 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:11.920 was your dad anyway, Yeah, he's fine, he's busy with work. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.119 I mean, I don't think he's really kind of paying 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.320 much attention to this pandemic stuff. I think he thinks 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.080 it's it's not really going to hit us. Yeah, I 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.840 don't think they'll be that bothered about it, to be honest, No, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.320 not at all. So you know about all this um 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.839 this lockdown stuff, I don't know if it's true, but 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.800 I was just thinking, like, if we have to stay inside, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.640 why didn't you come and stay with me? And what 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.960 in your haunted flats? It's not haunted? Do you think 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.880 anything over fifty years old is haunted? But what about 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.560 all those weird noises I always happened here whenever I'm 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:54.080 staying Yeah, all those weird pipes and mice. We were 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.880 talking about maybe moving in together anyway at some point, 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.040 So a good chance to give it a go when 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.440 it Yeah, I guess let's just wait and see what 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.360 happens with a lockdown, and we're going it actually comes 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:13.520 into play and then we can make a decision, all right. Yeah, 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.360 I know, who knew the apocalypse is going to be 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.920 all about running out of toilet paper? Yeah? I managed 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.479 to get some rice pasta yeah, and a load of 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:27.360 cans stuff. Yeah, but should I be washing it? You are. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:34.600 What about fruit? Yeah, I've got bananas, some apples. Well, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.239 I was just gonna use washing up liquid. Yeah, exactly, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.520 That's what I was thinking. How come you supposed to 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.000 use soap and water on a can, but you can 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.880 just run a banana under the tap nine days? I 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.080 thought it was two days. Where did you read that? 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.400 Fuck it, I'm just gonna put soap on the bananas. Yeah, 0:05:54.440 --> 0:06:09.560 all right, quite cheers them. Happy birthday to you, Happy 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:15.560 birthday to you. Two of our staff members are in 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:20.400 intensive care and I've been tested, yeah seriously, and they 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.760 tested positive today. So what are you all getting tested? 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.640 What's going on there? There's nothing in place for us, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.320 which obviously we will have been exposed because they were 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.960 at work last week and then they did start to 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.559 feel one well, so they went, you know, went off, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.640 but then within a few days have ended up intensive care. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.880 Oh my god. But there's nothing. Even the advice when 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.719 we rang, the advice was that you don't have to 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.839 close if you don't want to. But fortunately actually we 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.839 put our staffs, you know, and the children as well 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.600 being before. Yeah. But also over the last three weeks, Yeah, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:05.560 we've had quite a few members of staff unwell. But 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.800 this is the thing. If you're not tested, how on 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.800 earth are we to know? Yeah, everything is still so vague, 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:16.800 isn't it. Yeah, personally, I think we've had coronavirus in 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:21.200 the school for over a month, So definitely, if we'd 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.040 closed two weeks ago, yeah, we would have stopped the 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.160 spread because there is no way, especially if we don't 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:41.600 know about it. So it's Wednesday, March eighteenth today. Normally 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.520 i'd be at work right now, but I've got a 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.720 text last night from my boss just saying don't come 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.880 in today. Obviously everything that's been going on, they just 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.480 felt like closing the cafe was the right thing to do, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.680 and I guess I sort of agree with them. But 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:13.280 it's a bit worrying. What the what the fun? What's chairman? Chairman? 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:20.880 You knocked over a glass? It's fine, I understand. I've 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.400 got chairman bla company. Anyway, I like to say, hopefully 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.880 you know it's not gonna be that long. Um. Absence 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.400 makes the heart grow fonder and all that. That's true, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:35.760 it does, it does. What's that is that? Is it 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.719 a big be crying in the background? Yeah, yes, been 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.640 crying NonStop pretty much. It's that family next door. Remember 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.960 they've got that little kid. I mean there are kids 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.240 about three. That sounds like a newborn. They're all the 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:57.360 same money. No, it's quite different really. Nine in the 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:02.560 UK after testing positive for the viruses, I've gone in there. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.840 I went to the first one, like all the pasta's gone, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.400 all the rice has gone, bread's gone toil, the paper again, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.480 all gone. I went to the next one, same, all gone. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.040 How long's that gonna go on for? Like if more 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.679 people will start panic buying, then all shelves be empty. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.760 I don't know, Like do I have to stop pile? 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.600 But then I'm not supposed to stop pile, because then 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.160 that means there won't be food for everyone else. But 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.720 I'm just thinking, fuck it, Like if other people are 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.600 stop piling, I don't want to be the one who 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.120 doesn't have anything to eat. I mean they're saying we 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.079 might be like locked inside. If we're gonna have to 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.800 be staying inside, then obviously you probably don't want to 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.280 be going out if it's that bad. I mean, I 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.120 don't know what they're planning to do, Like you know what, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.040 They're gonna have the army on the street making sure 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.480 we stay in I mean that can't work, can it. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.559 What they're going to be dropping food around our houses. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.840 I mean, I don't mind it, like we had rationing 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.440 in the Second World War, and you know there are 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.000 people starving all over the world, but it would just 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.319 be good to have a bit of a sense of 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.439 you know, what's the plan. What are we're supposed to 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.920 be doing here? Because I've just been to the shop 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.040 and it feels like that it's going to get stripped 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.520 bare and I can't get a delivery slot on the 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.200 computer because it's all booked up. So yeah, so I'm 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:15.959 just to be worried about that, a bit worried about 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:23.680 what's going to happen now buying a supermarket. Patrick's brother 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.720 in law and his family have moved in to protect 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.679 their parents. But where they're staying there, well, we've just 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:35.760 moved our kids into our bedroom, right, they've given them 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.800 the other two rooms two rooms, right, helpful, I think 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.080 in a way. Yeah, that's really good of you to them, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.520 and it's good for our kids because then they're being 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:52.200 amused by their cousins, which is great. Well, you know, well, 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.560 Boris Johnson was saying he's happily he'll happily shape people's hands. Yeah, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:02.920 I mean that'll probably come back to So they've told 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:08.640 him not to come into hospital. Oh shit, So what 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:13.000 do they think it is? Cancer? Well, how do they 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.480 know that if he's not been in to be checked? 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.200 So why they do this lockdown? Then you're just going 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:24.080 to stay up there, it's granny all right. Oh well 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:29.920 it's good you're there then. Yeah, I'm all right. Obviously 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.480 you know, the cafe was shut, so the job's kind 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:39.800 of on pause. I guess hopefully it's not for too long. No, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.599 Is that the one about the guy with all the tigers? No, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.360 I've not seen it yet, but I'll check it out. Yeah, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.520 maybe we could do one of those zoom calls. Do 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:59.640 you have that? Yeah, it's just like skype. All right, people, 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:07.040 reasonable instruction. Yeah. I don't know what to say about 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.960 it really. Um I guess I kind of knew this 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.160 was coming, but now it's official, just feels I just 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.920 feel a bit nervous about it. Um. I mean, I'm 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.360 here on my own for a start, so I can't 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.200 see people, can't have them round. I don't want to 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.360 get it. I don't want my parents to get it. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:30.320 So it's just better to stay in, isn't it? Then? Hi, 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:35.800 it's it's listen. I really soryist is over voicemail. Um, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.000 but it looks like that's that for the time being. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:45.360 So we will be closed from tomorrow. UM. Still not 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.680 sure what this means for you, but for the time 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.040 being obviously, don't don't come in. UM. I guess you'd 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.640 hope there'll be some some sort of government support over money, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:13:01.800 but who knows. Anyway, give us a call if you're chet. Um. Yeah, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:09.520 that's very sorry. So it's uh, it's Tuesday twenty fourth 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.079 official lockdown started today and just got his text to 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.240 check this out. Gov dot UK coronavirus Alert. New rules 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.640 in force now you must stay at home. More info 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:26.120 and exemptions at gov dot UK forward slash coronavirus stay 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.280 at home, Protect the NHS, Save lives. I mean that 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:36.000 is that is real? Yeah, it's quite a yeah, it's 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:41.520 quite God. That baby is driving me nuts. It's just 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.880 crying all the time. It woke me up last night 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:52.160 and there is again on fressure over the lack of 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.320 yees all that. Yeah, but it's Italy though, isn't it, 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:03.360 don't it? We'll get like that. It's safe. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Yeah, 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.280 Now I'm doing it all the time. Yeah, I feel 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.959 like my skin is gonna fall off. Yeah. Just use moisturizer. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.640 Yeah yeah, it's honestly, you need to or your hands 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:17.120 will just be read raw. Yeah. Well yeah, I lost 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.200 it obviously. I mean I've had to shut the cafe, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:25.720 so a love being furloughed. I think, how do you 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.440 think I feel? Then? I'm the one who hasn't got 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.680 a job. How was I supposed to know a fucking 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:39.280 pandemic was going to start? That is the sound of silence. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:46.880 It's so weird. So it's a Thursday in March twenty 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.480 sixth and I've just come outside Tom, I don't know, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.680 I guess see if everyone was doing it and there's 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:58.960 like nobody here. It's so strange. And listen to that. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.320 Not a plane in the sky. You see one now 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.400 and it's like the end of twenty eight days later, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.200 you know, and you're just looking up at this thing 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:17.320 in complete awe. Well, they're not social distancing. I'm on 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.360 the high street now, and I mean this is even 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.760 more eerie because like, obviously there's a few more people here. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.240 There's a couple of cars I'm not sure they are 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:34.760 key workers, but anyway, just crazy. There's like all the 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.960 shop fronts are down. I mean there's like maybe one 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:42.520 or two people on this whole high street. It's so weird, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:50.600 so weird. It's like three people here. I'm surprised it 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.840 not more because it's in a way. You know, if 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.280 you are and allowed out for a bit, this is 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.200 where people are going to come. But I don't know, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:05.720 maybe just people being nervous at the moment. M Here 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.120 are the birds. I mean, I don't even maybe you 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.240 could hit that before, but I just I didn't notice 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:18.200 it so many of them. There's quite a few people jogging, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:25.080 um people walking around. But I watch it. Watch that 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:32.520 meet let's go go around two meters. It just comes 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.080 straight at me. I can see him jogging all the 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.720 way down here, right next to the fence, can't go anywhere, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:53.200 and he's practically brushed my shoulder. Just watching the briefing tonight, 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.840 and I've noticed that. So the podiums had changed. So 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.200 before they were just saying, you know, each want to 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.560 like stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives in 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.720 kind of blue and white, which is I guess conservative 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.159 colors now they've changed it so each podium's got like 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.600 one of each color of the sort of main political parties. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:17.520 So there's yellow for lived, blue for Conservative, red for labor, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.959 and it says like stay home in the yellow. Conservatives 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.720 have got protect the NHS and Labor has got saved lives. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.280 Maybe it's a dominant Cummings strategy to try and get 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.959 everybody who's watching to think that all the other parties 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.679 are somehow involved in the management of the pandemic, so 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.240 it all goes tits up. Obviously, we won't just blame 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:59.800 the Conservative Party. That was brilliant. I wasn't sure if 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.760 any one was going to do it, but yeah, like 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.200 the whole street was there. Got kind of be emotional. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.160 Really just nice to see people outside, isn't it, Because 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.400 he's sort of I know, we're like we are allowed out. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.720 I've been out, but I'm thinking more about not going 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.280 near people than you know, feeling like I'm with people. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.440 But tonight it's like properly, you know, got to weigh 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.600 a bit of the neighbors. And yeah, I mean, bloody hell, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.879 they don't have to deserve it. I mean, what an 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.159 amazing effort, and they're doing it without all the proper 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.560 bloody gear, like how, I mean, how is that even possible? 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.080 Should be doing it for the shot workers as well, though, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.280 I mean turns out who would have thought it that 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.639 these key workers, You know, they might not make the 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.560 millions that CEOs make or what the guy's making the city, 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.480 but the country kind of falls apart without all these 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:52.560 other jobs that don't superficially look like they're impressive or important. Yeah, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.320 so we should clap for them as well, or at 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.320 least I hope when this is over. If it is over, ever, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:03.959 then you know you won't forget that. I thought i'd 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:05.880 try and do a bit of baking since everyone else 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.640 is doing it. Um, So I've got the chairman. He 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.520 helped me out. We're making some hot cross buns. Is 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:17.159 that right, buddy? Is that right? Yeah, they're in the 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.359 oven right now. Actually, I think he looked all right. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:28.399 Just check him out, ship Prime Minister. Well that's a 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.960 big story. He's not in the best of shape either, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:38.480 so we're that's not good for him. Oh shit, oh 0:19:39.760 --> 0:20:04.760 ah m hm, oh Fox's sake. Yeah. So when I 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.520 came back in, it was just like flower on the floor. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:13.160 He'd been walking through it. Have you watched those Hours 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.199 to Green videos yet? No, not yet, but I will do. 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.760 It's on my list. Yeah, check him out. It's really good. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.440 So you're getting out every day, Yeah, a little bit. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.720 But you know, it's not like having the Highlands on 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.920 your front door with it, no, I know, but it's 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.040 some important you need to make sure you go. So 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:36.720 just for like your mental health and everything. What do 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:46.400 you fucking that is enough? That is enough? That's not. Yeah, 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:53.000 I can't sleep because it's just a really strange noise. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.160 It's been going on for a while now. It's coming 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.280 from the wall. I don't know if you can hear us, 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:23.600 okay in the fireplace maybe year that it's weird. I 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:35.240 don't know. Maybe it's like mice or something. I've got Yeah, 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:45.879 say what, Oh, now she didn't perform she as a judge. 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:51.040 That's a nice trick question. Yeah, well done. It pretty 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:55.679 pathetic too for me on that man, I thought I 0:21:55.720 --> 0:22:03.280 got five who Actually Tuesday, March thirty first, death rates 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.600 are still going up. It's just gone up another couple 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.920 of hundred in the last day. We're over two thousand now. 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.200 And yeah, just got this letter from the Prime Minister 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.520 I'm hoping he hasn't written it himself, because obviously i'd 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.240 have to disinfect it. Then I won't do the voice. 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:22.680 So I'm writing to you to update you on the 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.720 steps we're taken to combat coronavirus. More we all follow 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.479 the rules, the fewer lives will be lost, and the 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.199 sooner life can return to normal. It is with that 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.240 great British spirit that we will beat coronavirus, and we 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.040 will beat it together. So it's just the British spirit 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.000 really that we need. Don't need any of this other stuff. 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.679 Ppe it's funnier way he's saying about how fewer lives 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.520 will be lost and the sooner life can get back 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.480 to normal, return to normal, because I think normal's gone me, 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:55.040 isn't it. Maybe this is a moment. It's terrible, it's horrible, 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.000 we're all having to live through it. No one wants 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.439 to be living through this right now. But could this 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:04.199 be an opportunity to improve things, make things better? In 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.440 a way, it's sort of exposing how what was before 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:12.480 wasn't actually normal, like what's now is normal. Having a 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.600 virus come in and just completely dismantle all the kind 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.200 of social conventions that we had got used to and 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.760 just sort of took for granted, like a working week, 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.200 a weekend. You know, there's no such thing as Sunday, 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.280 like cosmically, it's just that's what we've given the names 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.439 of the week, so we can plan and keep a diary, 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.480 all important things, being very useful. But at the same time, 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:38.879 it's funny, isn't it. We keep talking about going back 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.600 to normal. What we mean is going back to the 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.159 fictions and the things that we made up that we 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.800 feel secure being surrounded by. And I wonder if we 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.680 can take this opportunity to in a useful way interrogate 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.359 some of the fictions we had before, like having to 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.879 go to work Monday to Friday nine to five. You know, 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:01.560 maybe people might realize this something to be gained. There's 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.000 some value in, you know, working from home or being 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:07.119 able to manage your time differently and in more profound 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:14.640 ways as well, you know, hopefully you know, it's not 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.399 I wouldn't even say it's better or worse. It's just 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.000 really different. With flu, you can take a lemsick, you 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.320 can still lie down and rest and stuff. But if 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.920 I've had proper flu, yes, if I've slept a lot 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.560 but I've been able to read a book. This I 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.200 can't even focus on literally lying. I can't sleep. Yeah, 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.760 if feeling horrendous because the first two days I was 0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.080 still sort of active and up and about. And then 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.239 Patrick said, if you've got this, you need to go 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.360 and like rest, it's probably going to get worse. Are 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.800 you isolating then? I mean it's about avia the house, 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.919 isn't it. Yeah, I can't. Basically I'd just lie in 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:55.000 my bed and at night everyone comes in, but we 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.360 have the windows open, but there's not really anything else 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:01.240 we could do. Yeah, leveliously, me alone in the day. Really, 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.880 I know they've talked about herd immunity and stuff back 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.439 in there, Oh my god, a few weeks ago and stuff, 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.160 all the messages. I don't go to hospital, and obviously 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.320 I wouldn't go to hospital because I can breathe. Yeah, 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.520 that's not a problem. But there is no way that 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.960 I'm not passing whatever I have to the rest of 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.600 this household. I think. In fact, Lily hasn't eaten all 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.240 day to day. She's a one year old, so she's 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.760 not well. Yeah, my friend was saying that as well. 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.159 They tried to call one on one and then it 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.600 goes to the COVID line, doesn't it right, Yeah, it's 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.520 just a bunch of people in the room just telling 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.160 people not to go to hospital. Can't they at least 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.359 track people that think they might be ill, but just 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.600 take their address or something. There must be a better 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.760 way to get a sense of where it is. Yeah, 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.159 it's like they've literally got call centers of people just 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.520 telling people not to go to hospital, but then to 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.639 call one one one if you feel really sick. And 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.520 my mate was like, I've just called one one one 0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.720 and have come through to you. Yeah, but dad, that's 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.240 not really the point, is it. Well, firstly hasn't stopped 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.280 yet and it's still going up. But also it's a 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.679 false equivalence if you don't take into account what happens 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.600 if we don't do anything. But it could have been 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.440 five hundred thousand. So it's not a question of saying 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.680 we could just open everything up and the cost would 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.880 be twenty thousand people, because that's all it's going to die. 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.600 The cost of doing that it could be half a 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:27.520 million people. So it is that a price worth paying? Yes, 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:32.000 that's going to happen. I've lost my job. Yeah, but 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.560 it's not in our hands to dictate whether it's not 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.119 like a war, though you keep saying that it's not 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.960 up to us when the virus decides to call it 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:43.040 a day. Yeah, we can get a vaccine. Fine, but 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.800 it's going to be like at least a year. It's 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.639 just going to take time. Jobs are going to be lost, 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.880 the economy is going to be badly affected. I don't 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.080 know why. That's just in the news constantly. Yes, we 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.240 know the economy is going to go down, but on 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.400 the other side of this it will come back again. Yeah, 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.320 But that's the thing. It's not a question of what 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.879 is the best option. We don't know how it's going 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.120 to affect the economy. We don't know how many people 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.119 are going to die. All we know for sure is 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.239 that people are going to die, and if we do 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.879