1 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Um podcast starts now, Wow you wow, you wow. Welcome 2 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: to our good podcast that we elect to put out 3 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: called Stradio Lab Sam. How many people of the like 4 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: what percentage of the people listening do you think we 5 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: would like enjoy speaking? Um? Wow? Starting off the bat 6 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: absolutely cut throat and cruel UM. I would say, I 7 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm like, wow, you know, I was gonna 8 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: say fifty fifty am I being? Am? I just being 9 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: my classic, my classic optimistic, fun loving, happy go lucky 10 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: self right now, And you're being your classic kind of 11 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: just cynical, misanthropic bitch self. I think that's exactly what's 12 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: going on. Here's if I can be completely honest. I 13 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: feel like I do have walls, you know, I feel 14 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: like I feel like I have walls, and I feel 15 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: like I put them up. And when someone like likes 16 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: the podcast or anything that I do and sort of like, okay, 17 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: well I can't know you at all, like I need 18 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: you to be very separate from me. Is that bad? No? 19 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Would you say those walls are closing in? How do 20 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: you mean? I just mean, how much longer can you 21 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: keep this up? Shutting everyone out of your life? That's 22 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: a good point I do. I'm honestly, I'm gonna work 23 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: on it, and I'm gonna learn to let love in 24 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: and I'm going to learn to appreciate those who appreciate me. 25 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't have to say, and we don't have to 26 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: talk about this right now, because I actually want to 27 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: talk about something different. But in our previous episode that 28 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: we just finished recording, you made the point that when 29 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: you're home with your family, you like shut down and 30 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: are very quiet, and I feel like I have the opposite. 31 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Like I've yell a lot when I just every little 32 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: thing sets me off, and I'm just constantly yelling when 33 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm home, and I do wonder which one of us 34 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: is has a healthier outlook. I mean, I think a 35 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: healthy spot is somewhere in the middle. Um. That being said, 36 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I actually being my approach is pretty incredible, you know. 37 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard. Sure, I have to put on 38 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: a little shell, but it works and it's pretty emotionless. 39 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't feel I feel neither disappointment or anger. Sure 40 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: maybe cuts me off from some joy, but I do 41 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: feel like a proper amount of like like what I 42 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: get when I go home is like a sense of relaxation. 43 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Um oh, I get, I get sort of, I get 44 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: that quiet time where I don't have to have a 45 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: personality anymore and can just be sort of you know, 46 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: it must be nice to not have a personality that's 47 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: constantly pouring out of you from every orphan. Yeah, it's 48 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: actually a blessing. I'm sort of confused you getting fights 49 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: with your parents. No, none, that's the thing. Literally, none 50 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: of it is like I'm actually I think I've reached 51 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: a point and so that my sisters where all of 52 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: us are very close with one another and very close 53 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: to their parents, and none of it feels like there 54 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: doesn't There aren't any kind of like residue negative feelings 55 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: from like high school or anything. But it's just our 56 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: natural way of being as a family is that if 57 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: there's an issue, it will be yelled, like we have 58 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: to like scream it out, and then everyone moves on 59 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: and it's no longer issue. Does that make sense? It's 60 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: funny you tell that story and mention your sisters. I 61 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: feel like my brain is so rotted from both drag 62 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: race and generally being a that when someone says like 63 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: my sisters, I'm like, oh that he means his friends 64 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: or he means like people that he's around or in 65 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: a text thread with, and I was like, no, he 66 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: literally means sisters. This is like a different Unlike many 67 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: other gay people, I actually have biological sisters. I kind 68 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: of think biological sisters should be excluded from the word sister. 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: I think it's it's transcended what that means, and you 70 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: know that should they should be called girl brothers. Oh interesting, Yeah, 71 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: I think I think this is really well. I have 72 00:04:52,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: two girl brothers. Oh cool. Um? So, how so your 73 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: home right now in Greece? Yes, I'm home right now? 74 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh gismas mad? Um? How like have you gotten? Have 75 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: you yelled at your parents? Get? Or? Um? Yeah? Like, 76 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: for instance, this morning, I literally well, you know, I 77 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: woke up at three pm because I'm jet lack. But 78 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: this afternoon I woke up and went to make coffee, 79 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: and in the span of me making coffee, my mom 80 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: found three different things that she felt the need to 81 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: point out I was doing incorrectly, and so each of 82 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: them resulted in like a mini yelling uh session, And 83 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: then we literally sat down and had breakfast together like 84 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: nothing was about wow. Yeah. Um. So just to give 85 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: you an idea, first, I was literally trying to plug 86 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: something in and she kept being like, just let me 87 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: know what you need to plug in, and I'll tell 88 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: you where to where to put it. I was like, no, 89 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: it's literally just all I'm doing is plugging something and 90 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: I actually don't need help with this. And she was like, 91 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: just tell me which plug you're trying to plug in. 92 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I'll just do it. And I was like, I'm holding 93 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: it and I'm going to put it in. There's literally 94 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: nothing you can do. And so then that and so 95 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: then she was like, you know what, freak at it. 96 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: And then the first thing. Then the second thing was 97 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: that uh oh, when I finally put the kettle to 98 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: like make hot water onto the um what is it called, 99 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: uh stove? What? Yeah, into the stove, I guess I 100 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: hadn't like kind of taken a paper towel and brushed 101 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: the excess water from under it. So she was like, 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: if you put that on, it'll start like the water 103 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: under it will start like boiling, and then it will 104 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: make like a weird noise, like like it'll make like 105 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: a little noise. And I was like, yeah, that's fine, 106 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: and then the water will be gone. And she's like, yeah, 107 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: but that's like not like you don't want it to 108 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: make a noise. And I was like, I mean, I guess, 109 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: but truly it would be a matter of like a 110 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: second where like that water like boiled. Do you know 111 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: what I'm describing? I do know what you're describing. Okay. 112 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: So then that was the second thing that she got 113 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: like absolutely pissed about. And then the third thing was 114 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: that then, um, I took some water from like one 115 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: place to another and literally, like a drop of it 116 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: dropped on the ground like the kind of like I 117 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: would I hadn't even realized, like it was literally like 118 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: less than a droplet. It was like a drop that 119 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: was from the underside of a cup that was like condensation. 120 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: And then she she got mad at me for not 121 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: immediately cleaning it from the floor. So meanwhile, this is 122 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: all before I even combine the water and the espressos. 123 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: I can make my fucking American. I mean, it sounds 124 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: like your mom is being a downright bitch. We just can't. 125 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, she can't like fathom the idea that someone 126 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: else knows what they're doing. Um, so she's just like 127 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: if I don't actually, um, what's the word chime? In 128 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: then literally the kitchen will catch fire because as George 129 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: just trying to make an American. Um. So at each 130 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: of those places, then we had like a mini like 131 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: she raised her voice, then I raised my voice back, 132 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: and then I started making fun of her as like 133 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: a joke, and then she started laughing. So then we 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: laughed together, and then we sat down and I had 135 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: my coffee and she um and we talked. Um. That 136 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: sounds like a beautiful family sitcom. Yeah, it's very I 137 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: would say my family, everyone yells a lot. But then 138 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: everyone also like really kind of cruelly, um, like makes 139 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: fun of one another in a way that because I 140 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: grew up with it, then I um would when I 141 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: was in like high school or college, I would make 142 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people cry because I thought that it 143 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: was like a way to show intimacy, was like making 144 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: fun of people's laws. Oh so that's when you get 145 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: your toxic personality. Literally it's inherited. Um. Yeah. Yeah. I 146 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: think what I got annoyed at when I'm home is 147 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: my mom will be like trying to like take care 148 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: of me a lot, and I'll be like like and 149 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm like no, I don't want that, Like no, and 150 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: it makes me like I turned into like I get 151 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: That's why I get really quiet, because if I'm like 152 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I like coffee, She'll be like, I got four hundred 153 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: kinds of coffee, and I'm like, well, now I feel 154 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: like i've that's I know exactly what you mean. And 155 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: also the other funny thing with things like that is 156 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: like you will say something as an offhanded comment once 157 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: in and then ten years will pass and every time 158 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: you go home your mom will be like, I got 159 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: you those cherries like and it's like, no, I literally 160 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: just like once had them with the yogurt or something. 161 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: It's so like, it's very sweet, and it makes me 162 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: feel like such a bad person for being annoyed by it. 163 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: But it's also really hard because it's like, how do 164 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: I tell you to not get this anymore without being mean? Yeah? Um, 165 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, I actually had I had a conversation like 166 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: that yesterday because my mom there are two kinds of 167 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: seta that she gets. She gets like heart feta and 168 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: soft feta, and she had got that in her mind 169 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: that I was an absolute horror, and so she would 170 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: always say I got the stops that are you like? 171 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: And then finally, yesterday I was like, I broke it 172 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: to her and I said, you know, I actually like 173 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: the horrid one better. And she's still crying from that, 174 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: and she took it pretty well. That's nice. Yeah, that's 175 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: she only cried. She only cried herself to sleep. I mean, 176 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: a parent never forgets that moment when their son tells 177 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: them they like hard better. It's like it was more 178 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: difficult than my coming out. I mean, it's painful, but 179 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: a family can move past that with therapy. Oh yeah, no, 180 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: you need there, you need lots of their um would 181 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: it be bonkers to I don't know, bringing our guests. Wait, 182 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: I do want to bring our guests, but I just 183 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: want to stay on the topic of therapy. I know 184 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: everyone's always like I wish my parents would just go 185 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: to therapy, and I'm like, honestly, can you imagine how 186 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: much more unsufferable everyone would be if like everyone in 187 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: my from us there, I'm glad to be on anyway. 188 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: I don no, No, I actually think that's a really 189 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: good point. And I do want to say, like, I 190 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: think it's funny the double standard people have with their parents, 191 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like, um, like you know how it's like, oh, 192 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: I wish like, oh, like I love gay people. And 193 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: it's like if my dad were like tomorrow, if you 194 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: were like I'm by I'd be like, no, like wait, 195 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking of it, Now that I'm thinking 196 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: about it, I actually I would like that if I 197 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: think it would be fun. Okay, am I gonna get 198 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: canceled for wishing my dad wasn't by Wait if you 199 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: don't wish your dad is by your you have internalized 200 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: I just like, well, there's also an element of like, 201 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: I want to be I'm the gay one. Like, I 202 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: would also be jealous. I think it would take Uh, 203 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: it would be hard if like my one of my 204 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: siblings came out, because I'd be like, but that's my way. 205 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm really happy that both of my girl brothers are streight. Yeah. Um, 206 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: but okay, well, let's bring in our guests. Okay please, 207 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: um please please, No, that's actually your que Claire. We 208 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: just say please and then the guest has to come in. Okay, 209 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Let's try it again, um please, um okay, just let's 210 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: try it one more time, please, Okay, Hello, Wow, Welcome 211 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: to the stage, Claire Okaine. Um, crowds losing it. The 212 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: crowd's going wild. What's up Fox? She got a big time? 213 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: Which should our fans be called? Feed up Fox? That's 214 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: just the lore the culture surrounding our podcast. It's already 215 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: so confusing. I think we should just continue to throw 216 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: noodles at the wall. Our fans are now fed up. Yeah, 217 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: there are a lot of noodles on the wall already, 218 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: and why not a couple more. Yeah, it's absolutely confusing 219 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: to like this podcast at all. I'm in love with it. 220 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: That's why I did once again lobby to be on it. Yeah. 221 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: How many members of your family are in therapy? And 222 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: if you could change that number, who would you tell 223 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: to stop therapy and who would you tell to start therapy? 224 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I know how many 225 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: are medicine UM for issues that they could also go 226 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: to therapy with uh, But I think none of them 227 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: are go to therapy. And I'm the only one and 228 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm the only one who ever makes a lick of sense, 229 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: so UM and I would, but I would like them 230 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: all to go because I think they're repressing every awful 231 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to them and it's affecting UM themselves. Yeah, 232 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: I think repression can be so beautiful if it's not 233 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: affecting you at all. Yeah, sure you can turn to 234 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: repression into something really pretty, like um, I don't know, 235 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: like um, being able to like organize all your books 236 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: by color. Positive things can come from repression, for sure. 237 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: I think I really like someone to teach me to 238 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: organize by color. Is that bad? I think it's for 239 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: me on my end. Um, I'm gonna say, for me, 240 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: it's clinical when I do that, it's because I'm it's 241 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: my O c D. What you do do that as 242 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: I do do it as it show was I do 243 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: do it as an O c D thing. Um. It's 244 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: also like yeah, lightning things up also by height and 245 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: um you know, having like um labels facing out all 246 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: that kind of really fun stuff that gets my gears grinding. Wait. Sorry, 247 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say I wish I don't wanna. I 248 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: was gonna say something problematic, which I was gonna be 249 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: like I wish I had that, which I realized is 250 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: like not helping you in any way when you're actually 251 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: disclosing something that as kind of like a vulnerable thing. Um. 252 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: But I have to say, just on a more um, 253 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, on a less clinical level, I am fascinated 254 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: with people that in any way find cleaning or organizing 255 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: to be therapeutic. Oh, I think that cleaning to be therapeutic. Yeah, 256 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it's just you're you're using your hands, You're 257 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: expelling your energy in a way that is not what 258 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: is this to type type, click, click, swipe, So this 259 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: is yeah, this is what I wanted to also bring 260 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: up in our intro. But then of course we got 261 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: into the fascinating conversation of whether or not, um my 262 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: mom is a huge decided yeah yeah, yeah, um but 263 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: I've been I'm trying to not I deleted Instagram and 264 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Twitter from my phone for the two weeks that I'm home, um, 265 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: which it's not only been two days, but in that time, 266 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm attempting to find other things to do with my hands, 267 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: and I find that I just channel the same kind 268 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: of compulsion that I usually used to like scroll into 269 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: anything else that I'm doing, which is just like not 270 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to do a crossword puzzle and it's 271 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: not fun. It's just me like literally like pressing the 272 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: left and right buttons. So it's like, what's the next one, 273 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: what's the next one, what's the next one? And like 274 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: barely thinking each time I look at one of the clues. Yeah, 275 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: it hurts, well, I will say that. Um, just what 276 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you're missing today is that do Jaquet is trending. Why 277 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: I can't I didn't really get even get the gist 278 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: because I was scrolling through the trending tweets about her 279 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: and it's all just people like, don't talk to about dose. 280 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: You get, but I can't find out what the ship is. Wait, 281 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: that's all. That's always what happens. Like literally, it'll be 282 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: like Harry Styles is over party and then you click 283 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: it and it's a bunch of people being like, do 284 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: not come for Harry Style. They're they're really forcing trending 285 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: topics these days. Like I think some days you just 286 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: have to be like, actually, nothing's trending, like I saw 287 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: like yeah, and that's fine, that's actually beautiful. Like I 288 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: saw Steve Martin was trending and I was like, oh 289 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: he died, And then I clicked and it was like 290 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: it's his seventies second birthday, and I was like, who cares? Like, like, 291 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: grow up waking up when you're eighty don't? Yeah, exactly, 292 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: literally grow up more. You wake me up when you're Yeah, 293 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: I expect a prompt wake up the day in which 294 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: you are eighteen years old. Yeah, I'm actually calling a 295 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: reception right now and asking for them to send me 296 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: a wake up call on the day Steve Martin is 297 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: eighty years old. Obviously, that's the day I want to 298 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: be awake for. I mean, I'm going to take the 299 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: day off of work. I think by that time I 300 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: will be an executive. I will definitely have a job 301 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: that I will need to take off from. Yeah. In fact, 302 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: you know what's saying. I just checked. I can't take 303 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: that day off. That's the day of the Big Retreat. No, 304 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: oh no, actually that's the day of the Big Show. 305 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my god. I hate it when the 306 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: Big Show and the Big Retreat fall on the same 307 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: You have to pick, and it's like it's it's kind 308 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: of just two different experiences, and it's just annoying because 309 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: you would think they could combine them and just literally 310 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: have the Big Show at the Big Retreat. Sorry, I 311 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: know that's not possible. You're right. I don't even know 312 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: what to say to that, But we already reserved the 313 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: space for the Big Show and the Big Retreat. We 314 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: like have a running like yearly, like reservations, like if 315 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: we can know you're right at the ground, change everything, 316 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: change everything. Oh I love the big retreat. It's great 317 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: time to unwind with my best coworker. I think retreats 318 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: are toxic thoughts. Whoa, Oh my god, I think any 319 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know what one of the most 320 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: toxic thing is one. Um. I used to work in 321 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: tech and there were people that would like go to 322 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: concerts and do molly with all coworkers. Yeah, that sucks, 323 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: Like no, no, non coworkers, just a group of seven 324 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: coworkers going to a concert and doing all I don't 325 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: even want to drink soda with the coworker, strictly water only, 326 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: no bubbles. You hate your coworkers? Yeah, I mean Denise, Denise, Denise. 327 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: What can I say? You have three co workers and 328 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: now Claire. If you could describe Denise S, Denise M, 329 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: and Denise P each using one word, what would it be? Pissy? Scorpio? Um, 330 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: what is she? What is she? Libra? Oh wow, that's 331 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: a really chaotic revention at the office. There's a lot 332 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of emotion, a lot of crying. It's like, yeah, well, 333 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and they're all three of them are co C E 334 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: O S. And you are the only employee. Yeah, I'm 335 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: kind of an employee, but I'm also at the same 336 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: time an intern, which is really interesting. Yeah, but I'm 337 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: not supposed And you're a contractor. Yeah, And I'm a 338 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: contractor and I'm freelance. Also I'm also the guy who 339 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: puts the water jug into the water thing. Right. Well, 340 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: you're a freelance intern and contractor. But you have been 341 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: working there for eighteen years. I have since I was 342 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: UM twelve. Yeah, and of course since Steve Martin's UM 343 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: something there. Yeah, that's when Claire got the call. And Claire, 344 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: Claire Steve Martin's fifty three and you need to get 345 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: to work. I hopped off of that carousel that I 346 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: was on. I got the call, hopped off at the 347 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Big Retreat. It was the year we went. We went. 348 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: It was the year the Big Retreat. Was that a 349 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: big theme? Yes, we had those big cell phones like 350 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: kind of like yes, yeah, yeah, nearly, Yeah, we would 351 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: we would throw them at the people in the carousel. 352 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: There was actually a big clown that had like um 353 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: metal teeth that you could knock the teeth out. You're 354 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: on the carousel and as you ride past, you could 355 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: throw your cell phone, and that clown is Denise. M 356 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna tell her you said that. Um. 357 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: I think, I mean I actually love retreats. I think 358 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: the premise of seeing work people outside of a work 359 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: environment is there's something kind of sexy about it. It's 360 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: like like a superhero with their mask off. You know, Sam, 361 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: You're obsessed with people with like finding seeks sexual undertones 362 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: in UM corporate situation, that is unfortunately true. There's something 363 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: so erotic about being buttoned up and kak eat and 364 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: tucked in and I just can't wait to see what's 365 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: underneath that that business casual facade. What do you think 366 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: is worse? Because now I'm thinking, I'm thinking I've been. 367 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: I don't think I've been to a full on corporate retreat. 368 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: I've been too events and stuff. But I also have 369 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: been to a retreat for when I worked at UM, 370 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: kind of like an LGBT center. And so there's the 371 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: corporate retreat, which is like you trying to relate to 372 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: your coworkers, and then there's like a kind of like 373 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, nonprofity retreat where everyone like goes around sharing 374 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: like their darkest secrets and that's how you bond. What 375 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: do you think is worse? You know what I mean? Yeah, 376 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: M I feel like I kind of feel like the 377 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: latter is worse. I kind of agree, And I think 378 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of it's kind of a dangerous 379 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: game we're playing here where we all have to work 380 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: together and we we know only so much about each other, 381 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: which is probably a good thing because that would change 382 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: up with the work dynamic. How am I going to 383 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: get all these papers held, write all these grants? You know? 384 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, isn't it interesting that we complain about 385 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: corporate culture being kind of um, you know, impersonal and opaque, 386 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: but then when you try to actually relate to people 387 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: more or try to have like a more family type environment, 388 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: that is in fact exponentially more toxic. Yeah. Yeah, I 389 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: think people need to be upfront with jobs and be like, 390 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: we're not prints, you know, like we work together. I 391 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: hate when people are like we're a family. It's like, no, 392 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: you're literally a coworker. I don't know, you were forced together. Yeah, 393 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: But then then and then they say, you know, you 394 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: can't choose your family. Um. And I think in the 395 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: case of work. You kind of can't. You can't choose 396 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: what whether or not you want to um share a 397 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: cake with somebody. Also, they can get fired and you 398 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: can just never see them again, like literally ever ever 399 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: again becomes the firing process that the company involves being 400 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: killed off. So yeah, you don't see that. That's when 401 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: you go on the permanent retreat. It's like my dystopian 402 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: y A novel where someone's like, did you hear he 403 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: went on the permanent Retreat? And it's all capitalized too 404 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: many y A novels, not enough A novels. Wow, I 405 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: actually snap in my fingers at that. Nor a normal 406 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: adult and it or just I would like a series 407 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: of a series of novels that is targeted towards people 408 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: that are exactly thirty six years old. I want novels 409 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: that are like keep the tone of young adults, like 410 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: kind of like magic and romance and were wolves and stuff. 411 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: But it all is like for like thirty two year old. 412 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's like okay, I actually I want the opposite, 413 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: which is like books that have really really adult themes, 414 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: but then they're like picture books and everyone's like a 415 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: little rabbit. Is that like adult breaks? Four? Children. Uh 416 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: is that the premise of BoJack Horsemen? Oh? I guess 417 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah, I guess that's what I want. I 418 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: guess I invented BoJack person. Okay, have a couple of 419 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: things to talk to you about that off off air. Wow. Okay, 420 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: have a couple of things to talk to you about 421 00:25:51,880 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: that you'll have to download. BoJack has been recast with Clara. Okay, Um, wait, 422 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: should we do our first Seggy? I do think we should. 423 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: That's incredible, So, Claire, our first segment is called straight 424 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: and normally, because George is so so good at explaining it, 425 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: I let him do it. But I'm already talking, so 426 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go for it. Um, we ask you 427 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: like rapid fire questions and you just have to answer. 428 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: Is to gage your familiarity with straight culture, so we say, 429 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: but honestly, just answer questions. And if you ask us 430 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: any questions about these questions, we're gonna get piste. Okay, 431 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: any questions mm hmmm, good answer you pass? Okay, Um, Claire. 432 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Lizards are wizards bucket hat or bucket list bad bucket hat, 433 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: Star wars or earth wars such as Afghanistan and ETCETERA 434 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: star wars Okay, purse, handbag, pocketbook or pocket fill of 435 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: Sunshine by Natasha Bedingfing purse Okay, Okay, which is worse? 436 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: Me going to Michigan in June or George going to 437 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Greece in August, Michigan in June. Damn it? Okay, love 438 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: is blind or Jesus is King? Jesus, I'm actually out 439 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: of them, if you can believe it. Okay, girl boss 440 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: ch O or mom preneur, Oh my god, uh she 441 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: e o Wowlas George, what do you think Claire got? Well? 442 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: Just as an f wai there. We rank each of 443 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: our guest performance on the scale to one of one 444 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: to one thousand doves. And I have to say, I 445 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: have to say, this is to me, this is like 446 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: over nine Okay is crazy. So we're not going to 447 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: hear an exact number, but we are going to say 448 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: somewhere over nine hundred. And you know we're gonna be 449 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: thinking about that a lot. Yeah, And I'll take that 450 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: and I'll put that in my little pocket. Sunshine. Now, 451 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: how did that go? How did that song go? I 452 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: gotta like, I gotta got sunshion know the I only 453 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: know the song about the other weather, the rain one, 454 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: the rain one, I'm only happy when it rains by Garden, 455 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: the Natasha Beddingfield, Feel the rain, and yes, is it 456 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: on your skin? I said lips. Essentially, I hate when 457 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: I guess why would it be feel the rain on 458 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: your drink water from this? Feel the rain, drink it. 459 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: I think one of the saddest things is like knowing 460 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: a song really well and still having the lyrics wrong. 461 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, it just shows how self obsessed you are. 462 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: George h Yeah, totally. I'm kinda say something. When you 463 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: were young and you heard the song hit Me Baby 464 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: one more time, did you ever think like this sounds 465 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: like an adult theme and I'm sure I'll get it 466 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: more when I'm older. Yeah, yeah, but like I still 467 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: don't get it. I think I was trying to intellectualize 468 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: it at the time, but it was just the catchiness 469 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: of it. I think, UM kind of push that to 470 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: the side. I mean, I guess I guess it means 471 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: like hit me maybe like you're she's addicted to him, 472 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: so it's like, give me one more hit. Yeah. I'm surprised, 473 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Like I can't even believe I never even thought about 474 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: like violent themes. I think like that wasn't the first 475 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: thing I thought of. I think it was just like, 476 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: hit me up, That's what I thought of. Oh, because 477 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: in my mind I was like, Okay, most obvious interpretation 478 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: is literally hit me physically, which I know is not 479 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: right because they wouldn't have that in a song. So 480 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: then I was like, knowing that's not right, then what 481 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: else could it possibly mean? And I have to say 482 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: to this day, I couldn't confidently tell you do you 483 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: think it's hit me up? I think it maybe hit 484 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: me It's like, do you like do me? That's right? 485 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: But that's so inappropriate to have a sixteen year old 486 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: singing that. Yeah, but that was the whole thing. I guess. No, 487 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: you're right. What if I didn't get it, I was like, wait, 488 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: it's like, wait, why is she like but she's a student, 489 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: Why is she being sex studying? What if my micro 490 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: take of baby one More Time is they shouldn't over 491 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: sexualized her like that? To be fair, I do think 492 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: that song is, now I'm realizing, extremely confusing. Like if 493 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: you're it's so confusing, there's got to be a better 494 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: phrase than hit me baby one more time? I mean 495 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: it could literally think it's insane because it's one of 496 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: the most popular songs literally ever written. And I bet 497 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: you if you've got a group of five people in 498 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: the room, they could not tell you what that line 499 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: is meant to me? Are they a group? Wait? Contextually, so, 500 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: my loneliness is killing me and I must confess I 501 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: still believe when you're not with me, I lose my mind. 502 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: Give me a sign, Give me a sign, Give me 503 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: a sign. But then hit me baby when we're Yeah, 504 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: you're right. I think you're right. I don't think it 505 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: means anything. It's literally, well that's the thing. It's written 506 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: by kind of a Swedish um architect. Oh yeah, oh 507 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: that actually makes sense now. So it's it's sort of 508 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: nonsensical because they were on like a deadline, Like somebody 509 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I actually need a song on my 510 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: desk by five pm and it's four thirty and he's 511 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: like yeah. The persons like sorry, I'm an architect. I'm 512 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: literally working on this group. He's like, yeah, well you 513 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: won't get to build that big building if you don't 514 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: get me this song on my desk by five pm. Yeah, 515 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: And the guy's like, wait, literally, who are you like? 516 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: I work for an architecture. But then he wrote baby 517 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: one more time, and then that guy got to build 518 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: the empire state building. That guy, I was Max mart Um, 519 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: you know what song does make sense? Me against the music? Yeah, 520 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: that sounds I would say that song. It's almost like 521 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: they went to great lengths to make sure it makes sense, 522 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: Like when she says it's me against the music, and 523 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: the Madonna says and me, yeah, that's then I'm like, Okay, 524 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to write their previous wrongs because exactly they're like, 525 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: we need to make sure, like we've gotten so many letters, 526 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: I let me maybe one more time for this one's 527 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna be crystal clear, because they're like, okay, well we 528 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: should double down on who it is against the music. Okay, 529 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: it's me, but also me when I do like the 530 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: idea of Madonna being in that writing room writer's room 531 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: and being like, wait, I just want to make it 532 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: clear and me quick pitch and me it's kind of stupid. 533 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: I know it sounds kind of stupid, but me also me, 534 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: And then when and then Madonna says that, and then 535 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: this is my impression of Britney Spears agreeing I love 536 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: the idea of pop songs having writer's rooms, and it's 537 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: just like me too. I mean they literally do, yeah, 538 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: but like like I mean like writer's rooms in the 539 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: way that we think of them, where it's like yeah, writers, yeah, 540 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: just like it's like it's literally like Megan, I'm wrong. Wait. 541 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Do you remember Sam in our episode with Mary Beth 542 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: when we decided that science has writer's rooms? Oh yeah, 543 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: I forge a theme. Oh yeah, we're jealous. Think we think, 544 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Sam and I literally think that every field works by 545 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: having writers room, and in some ways it does. I 546 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: think it's some ways it does. And honestly, I have 547 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: to say more more industries would benefit from having writer's 548 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: rooms and more writers. Do you know, let me tell 549 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: you something. You know who you use a better writer's room? 550 00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden? Oh my gosh, Hey, you know who needs 551 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: punch up? Donald Trump? Okay? Okay, Claire, Now you do 552 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: you know who needs um to be to jump the 553 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: jump the shark? O um? Global warming? Okay, Okay, I'm 554 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: actually trying. While I was thinking of that, I really 555 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: had to burp, And so now I'm trying to like 556 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: burp between speaking, so you can't tell. And it's really 557 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of really hard. I'm sorry. Sorry, Okay, well 558 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: could you notice did you even notice that? You know? 559 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: I don't think and then okay, so yeah, I didn't 560 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: hear it. And that's just kind of my day today. 561 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: That's awesome, sauce. So, our topic today is the sport 562 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: wow getting down to brass uh. I think we should 563 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: start taking our podcast a little bit more seriously, George, 564 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: some of us, Well, I noticed that in our previous 565 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: episode you really were keeping us in line? Am I 566 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: being too Am I being too harsh? I mean, listen, 567 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: you're I'm getting my mom vibes from you. All I'm 568 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: doing is logging into record a podcast, and at every 569 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: turn you're like, put that down, George. That's the worst 570 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: thing you could say about someone on air. Um. So, 571 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: our topic is skateboarding, and I feel that we should 572 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: get to it because um our guest um shoved it 573 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: to skateboard away. UM So skateboarding, let's talk about it. Okay, 574 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: what do you want to know? So? As a straight topic, 575 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: how do you feel? What is straight about skateboarding to you? Um? 576 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: The sheer amount of straight men, I think, also creating 577 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: the sport straight men mostly um, who knows? Maybe there 578 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: was a young little Filipino gal in in the in 579 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: the in the valley of Los Angeles, kind of knocking 580 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: boards together. And I kind of invented that little Filipino gal. 581 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was gonna say something stupid. 582 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: Never mind, I was gonna say Doja Cat. But I 583 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: know she's the Filipino, but it kind of like Doja 584 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Cat kind of seems like she should be Filipino. Well 585 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: from me that I'm gonna let's let's look to only 586 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: talking about racial identities that we identify. Okay, I will 587 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: go on the record of saying I don't know what 588 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: Doja Cat looks like. So um, I yeah, it's a 589 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: straight thing. It's a very heatero thing. It's a very 590 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: aggrowth thing. You're constantly hurting yourself to get better, um, 591 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: overcoming mental obstacles that in conjunction with physical obstacles. UM. 592 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: Just a lot of straight kind of just like who cares? 593 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: Why do we actually need to do this kind of stuff? Claire? 594 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: Are you good at skateboarding? No? I'm not. I'm like 595 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: I used to be. I could have been good. I 596 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: truly could have been a contender. But that's how he 597 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: says it. Right, contender, perfect line. I could have been 598 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: a contender. We're gonna need a much bigger, big like 599 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: we should do a series that's just famous lines that 600 00:37:52,680 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: we butcher, like Frankly, my dear, I don't give yes 601 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: the baby, I'm not, you know, I think I could 602 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: have been good. I was once featured in a Puerto 603 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: Rican skateboard magazine. I mean, and I'm just going to 604 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: drop that there and to what you do with that? 605 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: When I was fourteen, Okay, Claire, you're from like I 606 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: want to say, Santa Clair. No, yeah, close, San Jose, Oh, 607 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: San Jose, okay, okay, um, I used to live in 608 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: the bar area, so I can imagine. Listen, I can 609 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: have enough empathy to imagine you growing up there, okay, okay, 610 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, no, it's a kind 611 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: of imagination, Sam Lax, Oh my god. Yes, I can 612 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: only imagine things either in the Midwest or on the 613 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: so not everything is either Michigan or broken. Some people 614 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: grew up in San Jose hearing those words, and I'm 615 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: trying to understand, but I don't do not have the 616 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: imagination to picture what that could possibly be. Like I understand, 617 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: like hearing the words San Jose is kind of like 618 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: you're in a gas station bathroom and then a song 619 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: comes on and you're like, Okay, the song is in 620 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: the radio, but I've never heard it before in my 621 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: entire life. But it feels like I'm supposed to know 622 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: it because it's like just such a radio song. I 623 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: understand that, Yeah, I mean it does. Yeah. San Jose 624 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: to me is like it's like the movie. You know, 625 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: It's just like okay, like I guess I know it exists. 626 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: I know people have been there. Yeah, but I don't 627 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: see myself ever arriving there or even I mean, much 628 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: like the moon landing, San Jose is a sound stage. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, 629 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: many of great crafty, great crafty. Um. I was obsessed 630 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: with skateboarding when I was a teen boy, and I'm 631 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: so bad at it. I never got good at it. 632 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: I tried to kick flip my whole life, and yeah, 633 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: I like could not do it, and I don't understand why. 634 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: I think I've only landed maybe three kick flips in 635 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: my long, long career. Um, it's just scary. You really 636 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: have I feel like you really do have to injure 637 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: yourself to overcome the fear and then you get better. Yeah, 638 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: you have to be a jackass guy. In order to 639 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: be a good skateboarder. You gotta be kind of Steve 640 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: O Wish. You gotta be Steve Wish. There's a reason 641 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: skateboarders are all jackass guys. Yeah, there's a reason. And 642 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: that's the reason. It is. Is skateboarding one of those 643 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: things that like we should take more seriously? That's the question? 644 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: Can I no? Because there is like I'm asking this 645 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: from somewhat of a level of somewhat of a place 646 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: of earnestness. Sometimes I get the sense that like skateboarding 647 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: has developed distributation is like oh he skateboards and doesn't 648 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: have a head, a bed frame, you know, like that 649 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Right, Um, But then I feel like 650 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: there are increasingly there's like a resurgence of people being like, actually, 651 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: skateboarding culture is like one of the it's like a 652 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: very valuable counterculture. Oh yeah, I think so, you know 653 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I think it is. If I 654 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: may get serious here for a second, ring the serious alarm. Wow, 655 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: we haven't rung the serious awe. Also, everyone put on 656 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: your serious headphones that you bought from the Stradio Lab 657 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: store and how You're death yeah, and and bump up. 658 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: And I was going to make a joke about serious XM, 659 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: but it's not worth it. But I do absolutely on 660 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: a joke. I mean, I should have bailed on thinking 661 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: Doji Cat was Filipino, but I didn't. And here we are, 662 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: and that's on the record, and it's going to be 663 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: brought up when I'm on. Especially sorry to storry to 664 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: call you out on this, but it is funny because 665 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: your your last name is not Filipino, so people might 666 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: not know that you are in fact Filipino. That to 667 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: an average listener just seeing the name Clara Kin and 668 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: she just here or she just thinks you came on 669 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: and just started making Filipino jokes. That's true. And that's true. 670 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: I I would see my name and I would think, okay, 671 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: when am I about to hear talk to talk here 672 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: I am in my little potato bag and your little 673 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: potato you know, Claire, I think it was totally fine 674 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: for you to absolutely go in on the Filipino community, 675 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: considering you are one. But you're attacking our Irish listeners. Um, 676 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners are Irish and if that's scares, 677 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: you can leave. Okay, Irish need not apply was a 678 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: thing for a reason? Whoa, So what were that was serious? 679 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: So I forget? Oh, skateboarding has added I mean just 680 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: being as like an American cultural whatever, like so much 681 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: as sprung from skateboarding culture. Um, using music in skate 682 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: videos like the clothes, the Tony Hawk video games. Yeah, exactly, 683 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: the soundtrack the Tony Hawk Prosecutor soundtracks, like I feel like, 684 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: and then we have Avril Levine, who really broke broke 685 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: it all open um? I really, I genuinely do feel 686 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: like it's a tribute. It's like contributed. Did I say 687 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: count contributed? Can we take that back? Wait? Sam? What 688 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: was my thing with the word cunt um? I don't remember, 689 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about, right, you put 690 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: it in some word right? It was like it was 691 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: like something along the lines of contributed. Right, what was it? Contemplative? Contemplative? 692 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: Contemplative that's when you're like being contemplative, but you're also 693 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: a huge So I think, Okay, So you're saying for 694 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: real that skateboarding is like important American culture, and I 695 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: have to say I kind of agree, and I think 696 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we're honestly listen or stand up comedy 697 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: as are as as past guest in front of the 698 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: Padulia Claire says stand up comedy is one of the 699 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: few things she's proud of American culture for having created. 700 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: I would actually disagree with that, but it is one 701 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 1: of the It is one of the things that, like, um, 702 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: that is actually an American art for that's actually very weird, 703 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think about that often. Another thing, you know, 704 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: rap and hip hop. That's true, there are very few 705 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: things that that Americans have actually contributed to the world. 706 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: But skate culture is by far one of the best parts. Yes, 707 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: I and and I agree. I don't know. I just 708 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: think it's so and it's also just so cool. Cool, 709 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: it's cool, it's kind of cool. What's the deal with 710 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: skater girls? So skater girl culture has kind of taken 711 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: on a whole new thing. Um. I feel like when 712 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: I was growing up, I was always the only girl 713 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: skateboarding at the skate park. Imagine me, little Doja cat 714 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: turning around, um in my helmet, not talking to anyone, 715 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: being very quiet, um, not making eye contact, and like 716 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: large male bodies are whizzing past me. Uh, okay, Sam 717 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: and I are both wrong. They're sweating the kind of 718 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: smell like the inside of a shoe, but in like 719 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: the hot way, you know what I mean. Yeah, I 720 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: know that this is very sad because also they were 721 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: wearing like loose clothes and they're like pants are always 722 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: kind of falling down, and I was like, so hot, 723 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: I want to I can see your underwear. The top 724 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: of their butt crack has kind of like, um, kind 725 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: of a circle of dirt, kind of shirt encrusted butt crack, 726 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: and it's just you and uh. Anyway, it was a 727 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: very isolating experience and it kind of kept me from 728 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: wanting to keep doing it, I think because I like, 729 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: I had groups of friends who skated who were all boys, 730 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: and we uh would do things like, Okay, we go 731 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: skate and then we go back to some guy's house 732 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: and then we bumfights and that it was not We 733 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: had cheetos and watch bum fights and I wouldn't laugh, 734 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: And then I be made fun of for not thinking 735 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: that it was funny, um that bums were killing each 736 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: other on tape. I'm putting bums in quotes. By the way, 737 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: would you would know if your zoom was working George. 738 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wait. I have two media pop culture 739 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: references that I want to reference. One is that I 740 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: remember watching an episode of MTV made Actually, no, I 741 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: can't remember if it was made or truely, I guess 742 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: it was made. It's this girl who was a skater 743 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: girl and what she was one of the guys, and 744 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: basically what they did in that episode is like make 745 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: her more girly, so like they made her wear all 746 00:47:53,480 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: the like quicksilver, pink, yeah yeah, yeah, roxy and things 747 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: like that, and so then it's like she went from 748 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: being just like a tomboy skateboarder to being like a 749 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: badass chick skateboarder. And I that had a huge impact 750 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: on me. And then the other thing I wanted a 751 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: reference is did you relate to that documentary Minding the Gap? Yeah? 752 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: I did. I think every skateboarder who saw that did. Um, 753 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: because skateboarding is such like a suburban also suburban thing, 754 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: so it's like it is it is. I guess skateboarding 755 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: is like or authentic suburban counterculture. Is that wrong? I 756 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: think it's the root of it all. Yeah, definitely. Um, 757 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: It's it's the rebellion that comes from not wanting to 758 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: do your homework, you know what I mean. Yeah, and 759 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: having like a driveway, yeah, totally, and having like a 760 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: nice kind of smooth driveway. Um. Yeah, I really liked 761 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: that movie. Yeah it was a great It's devastating, but yes, 762 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: it's very It truly is a stating. Also, you know 763 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,959 Speaker 1: another part of straight culture abuse oh god? Yeah. Yeah, 764 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: and just generally the concept of things being devastated. Yeah, 765 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: Gay cultures things being sickening, Straight cultures things being devastating. Correct. 766 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: What if I started skateboarding and then used like the 767 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: way people talk about drag to give people compliments, so 768 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: someone would like skate in the park, and then I 769 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: would be like, work, bitch, you're sickening. I'm gagging at 770 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: that time, I'm gagging for you. Yeah, lip trick, Ligonza, 771 00:49:51,200 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: House of Basia, okay house. Are there like drag houses 772 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: in skate culture? There are skate groups, That's what I mean. Yeah, 773 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: there definitely are. And now again getting back to the 774 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,479 Speaker 1: feminist aspect, yes, I do want to know more about 775 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: that there are more groups of women skating together, because yeah, 776 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 1: it's skating when you're the only woman and a group 777 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: of men feels inherently awful. I mean it kind of 778 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: depends on, like, you know, your relationship with those guys 779 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: and how they act around women. Um, but it's just 780 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: it's just nicer being around people. You can be yourself around, 781 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're not constantly worried about 782 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: how you look while you're also like breaking your arm. Yeah, 783 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: it's just like adding a whole other thing, I do think. Yeah, 784 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: like masks, skate culture was very intimidating. Like I really 785 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: liked skateboarding as a team, but I was always afraid 786 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: of other guys that were into skateboarding. If totally, I'm 787 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: thirty years old and I skate and I'm still and 788 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm intimidated by it, like a thirteen year old boy 789 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: because I know I'm not as good as him, and 790 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna probably make fun of me or make fun 791 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: of my hair and say, look like lord for our 792 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: quad or whatever. And I'm like, I know all of this, 793 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like making up these scenarios in my head. 794 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: You know how I'm not as cool as this child. 795 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: It's like still it's so ingrained, and I can't just 796 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: do it without and just have fun. We're worried about 797 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: these boys sucks, but is it? Is it changing in 798 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: your experience or is it? Oh yeah, definitely, there's a 799 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: whole queer scene now, um queer trends scene. It's like 800 00:51:53,080 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: there's finally, um, you know, openly gay pro skateboarders, um, 801 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, with her own like Nike shoe deals. Oh, 802 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: really wild stuff that I truly never thought would happen 803 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: in my lifetime. It's always inspiring when gay people have 804 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: Nike shoes and yes, and that's what I always say. Yeah. 805 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: I remember, I'm googling to find his name, Brian Anderson. 806 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: I saw short about him coming out and and like 807 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: talked about him going to the Eagle, which is like 808 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: the nasty leather bar, and I was like, whoa, this 809 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: guy is cool. And I was like, I'm going to 810 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: go to the Eagle and try to find him. And 811 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: I was like, what is wrong with you? Stop? Stop? Sam, 812 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: it's Sam reading reading an inspirational gay story about someone 813 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: coming out. Wait, I'm gonna fuck I'm going to find 814 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: him and fuck him. His his boyfriend is I think 815 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: very much your type too. And I got to google him. 816 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 1: He has an art pop tattoo. I mean, oh yeah, 817 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: he loves Gaga and wait, I'm going to look at 818 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson. Now he's a babe, and he's just like 819 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: one of the most intense boyfriend's very same. That's what 820 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You should start skating again. Just oh yeah, 821 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: I never three some of them go to the Eagle 822 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 1: now tight. Um wow gay skateboarders. Um, so did you like, Um, 823 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: what question do I ask? Now? Go ahead? No, no, 824 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 1: go go for it. I was just gonna say, George 825 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: isn't as familiar with skate culture. I'm just wondering, what 826 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,280 Speaker 1: what does skateboarding mean to you, George. No, I truly 827 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: it is something that is completely foreign to me, Like 828 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: I've never been in any way, or I've never been 829 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: on a skateboard. I mean except for like literally I 830 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: don't know, getting on one to just like see what 831 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: it feels like. Um, I'm trying, I've I don't remember, 832 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: like anyone I don't know. I'm it truly is very 833 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: foreign to me, and it is something like like I 834 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 1: said that, I my natural reaction to it, like many things, 835 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: is to be cynical and be like, um, this is 836 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: so embarrassing, you know, like like literally any subculture that 837 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 1: you're not a part of I mean, it's I'm sure 838 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: how anyone with a brain thinks about people who are comedians, 839 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: like it's humiliating, and I fully agree and embrace that celebrated, 840 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: but like that's kind of how I feel about I mean, 841 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: it's like I don't know. I mean, it's like how 842 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: I often a lot of my good friends are musicians, 843 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes they'll be around them and be like everyone's 844 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: so earnest, like people are actually like sitting down and 845 00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: writing music. Can you imagine? I really hate when people 846 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: care about something. I know. We talked about this on 847 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: this podcast. It's the worst thing you can It's one 848 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: of the most embarrassing and sad things that a person 849 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: can do. Stand up actually is very much like skateboarding 850 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: and that you you're trying the same thing over and 851 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: over again until you succeed and you're mostly failing. You're 852 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: hanging out with um addicts and free yeah, and then 853 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 1: very few opportunity. Everyone thinks they're going to make a 854 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: career of it. But literally, where are what opportunities are 855 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: you talking about? Yeah, you live in let's say Michigan 856 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: and nothing going on. Um, I literally like, damn, I 857 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: do think there's something to like it's funny skateboarder, like 858 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: team skateboarders who are now adults, Like I do feel 859 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 1: like a kinship with people that like we're into skateboarding, 860 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: because it implies so much about like the other stuff 861 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: you liked, like and I'm like, I remember liking all 862 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: these things with people like you. I mean, I I 863 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: also like, I don't know, I think I think about 864 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 1: this with anyone who had like an actual interest when 865 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: they were in high school, Like there was so much 866 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: pressure on me academically, like within my family and every 867 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 1: like it was very much like my entire life has 868 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: to be getting into a good college, Like everything is 869 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of organized around that. And I am kind of 870 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: jealous when I hear of people that genuinely had the 871 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to rebel in any way in high school or 872 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: like developed interests in like even people who like I mean, 873 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: when I think about the fact that like the instruments 874 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: that I played in high school that I was bad 875 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: at because I didn't like them, were like piano and violin, 876 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: because that's like what was considered like the thing to 877 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 1: do if you don't know, as like an extracurricular Whereas 878 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: there are people that like themselves, like sought out and 879 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 1: learned the drums or the guitar. I mean, I feel 880 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: almost the exact opposite, which is I wish that my 881 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: parents had made me work harder. I was actually having 882 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: this conversation with someone with my boyfriend in fact recently, 883 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: like I'm an only child, so I was kind of like, um, 884 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think they were so pressured to be 885 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: good in school and make make their own way, like 886 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: my dad, you know, put himself through college, which is 887 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: like a crazy idea that exists anymore. It feels like 888 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: and I just got to do literally whatever I wanted, 889 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: whenever I wanted it, to do it. And now I'm like, 890 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: but it would have kind of been nice to like 891 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: go to n y U, I guess, but also now 892 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: now what I know now, maybe not, but I don't know. 893 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: I just like to to even have the any sort 894 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: of prospects other than the arts, which I feel like 895 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: I would have ended up in any way, but also 896 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: to have like the knowledge to um, make the world 897 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: an actual better place. You know. Oh, but that's so hard. 898 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: The world is so big. I know. You have to 899 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: start small by doing by skateboarding. By skateboarding and doing 900 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: alternative stand up comedy. Yeah, these things make people laugh. 901 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: Kari and Karai Karai Karai. I would say I had 902 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: the perfect balance of parents that were strict but also 903 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: forming a personality and following my own passions. Wow, congratulations, 904 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: thank you, okay podcast, Wow very much goldilocks vibes with 905 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: me having being formed one direction, Claire being too far 906 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: the other than income Sam perfect in every way. Yeah, yeah, 907 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: I whoa our podcast. I just I just wanted now 908 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry if I've been um low energy. No, 909 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: you haven't been the energy at all. I'm like ready 910 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: to start skateboarding. I came into this podcast with I 911 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: ate too much, too fast vibes, and I'm coming out 912 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: of it with um now that food is turning into energy. 913 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: Just now, oh damn, oh wow, let's start recording. I 914 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: do have to say it's crazy that of all the 915 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: topics I have, I suddenly feel let me know if 916 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: you feel this way. It's like all these things, and 917 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: I think skateboarding is one of them. That like and 918 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: even something like you know how people make fun of 919 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: acoustic guitar. They're like, oh that feel when the guy 920 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: takes out the acoustic guitar, all these things that have 921 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,479 Speaker 1: been deemed embarrassing, I'm like ready to rethink them. Yeah, 922 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's always going to be the case, right, 923 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean we're doing it with we did it with 924 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: tiny sunglasses last year or whatever the buck. No, But 925 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm also just like maybe the reason why people make 926 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 1: fun of not just skaters, but like I remember how 927 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you were. I feel like in 928 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: so many movies in like the sixties and seventies or 929 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: not sixties and like the seventies, like it was such 930 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: a punchline for someone to be a hippie. It's like, 931 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's just like an insidious way that you are 932 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: making fun of people for like attempting to like be 933 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: pure to something. Yeah, like attempting to be pure. And 934 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: it's actually like not a bad it's nail right on 935 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: the damn head. George, thank you, clar Okay. I was. 936 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a park, uh next, and there 937 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: were like these two straight guys like on the bench 938 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: a little bit away from me and I obviously they 939 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: were talking without abandoned and just sort of going, going, going, 940 01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: because that's what they do. And it was like they 941 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: were like you know, thirty something's being like, oh dude, 942 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: I actually got this incredible lego pack and it's like 943 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: really amazing, like I can make all my favorite ships 944 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: and it was like, oh awesome. I actually went camping 945 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: and it was so much fun. And like, you guys 946 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: are like like I was like, damn, straight guys have 947 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: like such a pure outlook, like like like it's like unn, 948 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what the right like, it was like 949 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 1: so simple, and I know, yeah, they're very simple. I 950 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: was kind of like, this is a such a different universe. 951 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: And I know, we have this podcast that's like vaguely 952 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: talking about it and it's mostly a joke that is 953 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: like to be like l O L like how bad 954 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: would it be to have a podcast about straight culture? 955 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 1: And then we actually do it and then but then 956 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, straight it is different. Yeah, And 957 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: it's like no worries dot com. There's no oh com 958 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Like they bought the damn domain. Yes, they don't have 959 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: a care. It's crazy. I was like, they don't like 960 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: ship talk their friends. They don't like they're not like clawing. 961 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. The most supportive community is a community 962 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: of straight men. More than anything in the world. It's crazy. 963 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: What if I write a big article for The Advocate 964 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: about how gay men should take a note from and 965 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: be more supportive of one another, does the Advocate still exist? Well, okay, 966 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: so here's the thing. The Advocate and Out Magazine are 967 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: both owned by a Pride Media, and Pride Media like 968 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: famously went through like basically was uncovered that they haven't 969 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: paid their freelancers in like three years, and like it 970 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: was a big controversy. And so I know that everyone 971 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 1: at Out magazine like quit and they basically now there's like, uh, 972 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: it's it's like a zombie of its former self and 973 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 1: they just have like Ricky Martin on the cover. But 974 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I actually don't know about it. Yeah, game media, it's 975 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: interesting queer media. You'd think we would need it, but 976 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: it's actually all dead. It's actually more dead than other media. Yeah, 977 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: it's actually more dead than other media. Like all media 978 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: is like kind of dead, but like game media is 979 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: like like been buried already. Like the Boy. Yeah, enter us. 980 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna start a zine about straight culture and skate 981 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I'd buy that for two dollars. Okay, we're gonna hold 982 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: you to it. Is So this this episode you know, 983 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: we talked about theod this episode is sincere. How do 984 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: we feel about that? I really wanted to come in 985 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: guns blazing on the riff train, but again, my energy 986 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: is that of I think there was a riff. I 987 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: think the riff train definitely too. You think I happen 988 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: to it, happed in in the What do you think 989 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: that in and out seamlessly there was? It was very 990 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: I would say, honestly, kind of a skater um spirit 991 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: to it, in the sense that we kept hopping on 992 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: and off public transportation without paying. We know a lot 993 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: about skate culture. George, Um, well, I think I don't know. 994 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: I thought I thought, here's what here's what I'll say, 995 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: because this podcast has gotten earnest in the past, But 996 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: I think the best way to be earnest is to 997 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: come at it from to be like, have you ever 998 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: considered being earnest? And then everyone's like wow, and then 999 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 1: we move on. Yeah. I just sometimes I really struggle 1000 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: with being earnest because I feel like I sound stupid, 1001 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: and when I'm trying to be earnest, it shows like 1002 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: when I'm being funny, it's like good to sound stupid, 1003 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: because that's like the goal but when I'm being earnest, 1004 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, these words matter and they're bad. 1005 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: I know. It's it's like I'm not I'm not a 1006 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 1: very articulate person, but I'm a very earnest person that 1007 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: really clashes when I get my point across and I 1008 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: can't remember. Um uh see it's happening right now, Sam. 1009 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: We should our official tagline for the podcast should be 1010 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: these words matter and They're bad? That is good? Um? 1011 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: Should we bitch? So Claire the final segment and normally George, 1012 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: he's actually so so good explaining, but I'm gonna do it. 1013 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Um uh. It's called shoutouts, and we pay homage to 1014 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the most classic element of straight culture, which is the 1015 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: radio shout out, a high energy thing of something you like, 1016 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: uh you know, and I think of it in the 1017 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: style of two thousand two. You're in Times Square at 1018 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 1: t r L shouting out your damn squad. Um, So, George, 1019 01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: do you have one? Yeah? Okay? Should I go? Yeah? 1020 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: What's our listeners? I just want to give a quick 1021 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: shout out to Ice cut I literally something. I have 1022 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 1: been home now for two days and literally the day 1023 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: I got here, as though I brought with me bad luck, 1024 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 1: like in some kind of a story. Um our freezer 1025 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: stopped working and I have not been able to use 1026 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I execute, And it really is one of those things 1027 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: that you miss when it's gone. Last night, I have 1028 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: the instinct to make a campari soda and you can't 1029 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: have that lukewarm. You can't. You really can't. I mean, 1030 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 1: And and you know it'll you'll see you'll look at 1031 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: a recipe and it'll listen and it will say, oh yeah, 1032 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: one part this, one part, this, one part this. You 1033 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 1: know what the most important ingredient is, honey, you better 1034 01:06:52,560 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 1: believe it's ice? Um okay, I've got one Wait, but 1035 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 1: am I aren't I right about ice? Why do you 1036 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: always have to be right? I just feel like you 1037 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: don't imagine imagine like no, no longer being able to 1038 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: put ice in your cocktails. Isn't that what like Europe 1039 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 1: is all about? Yeah? Yeah, that's like European, like I 1040 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: hard to get. If you have an a groany, it 1041 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: will have ice in it. Oh my god, you're screaming. 1042 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I just I feel like you guys were like so 1043 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: on board when I was doing my shout out, and 1044 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: now you're like questioning the premises, Well, I just think, like, 1045 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, for how global you are, I think you're 1046 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: really close minded about this ice thing. You know what. 1047 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: I actually don't want to talk about this. Um, what's up, listeners. 1048 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to 1049 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: my bucket hat that I got last weekend. My bucket 1050 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: hat has totally changed the way I feel about myself 1051 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: and has given me a new meaning in my life. 1052 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: It is pulling all of my outfits together. It makes 1053 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 1: me look like a real life fisherman. I'm gonna get 1054 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: fishing lures and I'm gonna stick them on it, and 1055 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be incredible. This is a brand new me. 1056 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: All of my clothes work better now because of my hat. 1057 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 1: My personality is better, my mood is better. I enjoy 1058 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: going for walks and showing the community my brand new hat. 1059 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to my hat, 1060 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: and I want to give a shout out to the 1061 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: military store in green Point where I bought it. I 1062 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: think it's kind of gay there and they have like 1063 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: weird like to exist underwear even though it's like a weird, 1064 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: like legitimate like military circle store, and I think something's 1065 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 1: up gay wise, there, and so I love my bucket 1066 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: hat from there, but whoa wait, Sam, was that the 1067 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: same store Drew got a pair of pants from? Probably 1068 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 1: probably because I remember Drew wearing these incredibly uh chic. 1069 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: I would say, like olive green pants, and then I 1070 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 1: said where did you get them? And then he said 1071 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 1: at a store in Greenpoint. I looked it up and 1072 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: it seemed I wouldn't say army, but like very straight. Yeah, 1073 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: this story called Cato's. And it's like it's such like 1074 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: a legitimate like it's like an army navy the surplus store, 1075 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: but they have like um, you know, but it's like 1076 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 1: with a twist, like it's it's but it's not like 1077 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: hip at all. It's like run by like an old 1078 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Polish man and he's had it forever and it's just 1079 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 1: like but it is kind of hip because we get 1080 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 1: to decid it's hip, you know, like the things that 1081 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: they still have over time become hip. Yes, yeah, you know. 1082 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say about bucket hats. You think that's 1083 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: one of those things where you're like where you should 1084 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 1: be somehow like oh I'm over it, But actually there's 1085 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: nothing more powerful than putting on a bucket It has 1086 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: honestly changed me. And I'm like, I was like, you know, 1087 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 1: do I want to be a buckett gay? And then 1088 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: it was like yea, even before you have the bucket hat, 1089 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: you are a bucket hat gay. It's just about being 1090 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: out about it. Wait, actually, sorry, I know where delaying 1091 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: Claire's shout out. I would like to say, Sam, do 1092 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: you think I could become a gold chain George? You 1093 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: know I've been wanting you to have a gold chain forever. 1094 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: You have a hairy chest, and you should wear like 1095 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: skimpy little mesh tank tops and a gold chain and 1096 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: you're a little ear ring and be like this hot 1097 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: hairy man. I think that's kind of where I lean. 1098 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 1: But um, you know me and my tastes. So my 1099 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: thing with my thing with the chain is that I 1100 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: do have a hairy chest, but I also have a thin, 1101 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 1: like feminine neck, and so I you know, there's that 1102 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: m yin and yang of gender that I carry with 1103 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,719 Speaker 1: me all and I think something like a gold chain. 1104 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if if there's if there's one thing that 1105 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 1: really uh combines a neck and a chest, it is 1106 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: a chain that Yeah, I mean I think I think 1107 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 1: I've never met a person that looks bad with a 1108 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 1: local chain, So you're right, You're right. Wait, I also 1109 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: want to say last, can we all agree that sept 1110 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: and piercings are over? You know I thought they were 1111 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 1: over and then I saw someone with one recently and 1112 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 1: I thought that's hot. Yeah, they're still kind of hot 1113 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 1: to me. Fine. Oh wait, I have a question. Can 1114 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 1: I have one earring? Yeah? But is that appropriating current 1115 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: hip young gay culture? Oh? You know what I mean? 1116 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Like one hoop. I think that's cool. I think you 1117 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 1: can do that, and I think it would be new 1118 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: because it's not like I don't think it's appropriative, and 1119 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 1: I feel like one you are young queer culture. Uh, 1120 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: that's the nicest thing you've ever said. I feel like 1121 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: you can do like fun. Wait, sorry, can I say something? 1122 01:11:53,800 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: You both fully cut out forget it? So, so can 1123 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: we do What were you talking about? I was wondering 1124 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: if I would would be appropriating gay system male culture 1125 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: if I got one ear ring, a thick hoop on 1126 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 1: one ear Oh I love that. Otherwise I don't have 1127 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 1: my ears pierced. I would that would be the first time. Yeah, No, 1128 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: I only got mine. I mean I've had my ears 1129 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: pierced many times before, but this time around, I only 1130 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: got it pierced like a little over a year ago. Okay, cool, yeah, 1131 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:43,759 Speaker 1: do it? Okay, now out? Okay, what what what? What? What? 1132 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: What's up? Radio Laphead? My name is Clara Okane. I'm 1133 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: five foot four, I'm a pussy strom Channasa, California, and 1134 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: I'm here to shout out doja cat. That's right, cat, 1135 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 1: don't ja cat. I'm so sorry. I absolutely do not 1136 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,920 Speaker 1: know what your deal is, what you look like, if 1137 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: you are even musician. UM. At first, when I heard 1138 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: your name, I thought you were kind of like a 1139 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Peu de pie character, maybe like a twitch twitch master. UM. 1140 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: But now that I see people are talking about you, 1141 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you are a musician, UM, and I really 1142 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 1: hope to get to know more about you someday. I 1143 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,640 Speaker 1: really like your name, do jaquet. I would love to 1144 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: know more about that. UM. And I'm sorry for referencing 1145 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 1: you so much in this podcast. It's kind of what 1146 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,520 Speaker 1: I do when I'm nervous about something I don't know about. UM. Recently, 1147 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: the last time I did this, why is for like 1148 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: a month STRAIGHTE. Every time I got nervous on stage, 1149 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I would talk about Shane Gillis so thank you so much, Jakat, 1150 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:52,439 Speaker 1: thank you, Stradio ahead. You know, Claria, we have covered 1151 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: DOJA on this UM podcast, and where I believe you know, 1152 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm sort of like, you know, we we have the 1153 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 1: free trial and we're not sure if we want to 1154 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 1: subscribe or not. Uh. Interesting, That's where I'm at. Yeah, 1155 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: we're waiting to sort of see if we have to 1156 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 1: pay the monthly subscription or if it's just going to expire. Okay, cool, 1157 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do deep. She's very much the HBO Max 1158 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: of newer musicians. Interesting. Yeah, who's the quippy? Well, let's 1159 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: not go You'll have to listen next week to find 1160 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: out who the quimby musicians is. Yeah, this is a 1161 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 1: narrative podcast now, um yeah, Part two coming, Clair, Thank 1162 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on the pod. I'm going 1163 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,599 Speaker 1: to go out there and try to kick flip again. 1164 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me UM and taking taking 1165 01:14:52,520 --> 01:15:03,559 Speaker 1: me on to this adventure. Okay, bye leave, Okay wait