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Speaker 1: Who would have thought then that Pete Carroll and Bill

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Speaker 1: One is headed to Chicago and the other has a

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Speaker 1: very famous friend trying to lure him out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: We will tell you the latest wild Card weekend less

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Speaker 1: fun ones on Saturday. Can the Chargers that's their first

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Speaker 1: snap their skin in Baltimore? We will break down all

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Speaker 1: the matchups. No playoffs once again this year for the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: but there is hope with Bryce Young's late season surge.

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Speaker 2: One of the greatest Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Of all time, Luke Kickley, will tell you why he

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Speaker 1: believes the future is bright.

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Speaker 2: This show is Shade's Optional.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Judy Batista and Ian Roperport.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Pelisero. My voice cracked right there. It's

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Speaker 1: been a long few days, a lot of news around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We are thirty two days away from Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine. We were just three days away from

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Speaker 1: the start of the playoffs. There is one very important

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, who officially was listed as a limited participant

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Speaker 1: gain the final clearance by an independent neurologist. The fact

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Speaker 1: Green Bays quarterback Jordan Love, seeing here doing some calisthenics

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Speaker 1: on practice field, once again officially listed as limited. He

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Speaker 1: Love also being available for this game. He was asked

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Speaker 3: I think it definitely gives you confidence, you know, especially

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Speaker 3: last year, he gave me a lot of confidence. I

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Speaker 3: But like we said, it's some new faces, a new team,

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Speaker 3: and we got to go out there and do it again.

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Speaker 3: You know, we can't can't live on you know, what we.

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Speaker 4: Might have did last year against Cowboys things like that, So, uh,

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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, uh, that's kind of I feel

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Speaker 5: From one key player to another. That was Jorge Love.

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Speaker 5: This is Zay Flowers, the Pro Bowl receiver for the

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Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens. First time out of a Pro Bowl receiver

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Speaker 5: As of right now, he is considered day to day,

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Speaker 6: Judy, much better news coming from Buffalo wide receiver Amari Cooper,

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Speaker 1: Did I mention wild Card weekend is just three days away?

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Speaker 1: Look at that slate Chargers, Texans, pretty good, Steelers Ravens

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Speaker 1: have been in touch with that guys. I reported earlier today,

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Speaker 1: multiple teams have reached out to Bill Belichick on whether

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Speaker 6: I suppose it was inevitable that teams would, you know,

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Speaker 2: As we've been talking about here or four weeks.

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Speaker 1: This is the rare situation where it's a two way

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Speaker 1: It is not a binary you're in or you're out.

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Speaker 5: He'd be moving on, the Cowboys would be moving on. Instead,

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest Panthers of all time, Luke Keikley,

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Speaker 2: They don't like us with the episode, don't like them.

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Speaker 8: By coming to the house.

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Speaker 5: Take it down with no, that's not a feeler.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, there's a hit, there's a jog, there's everything we thought.

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Speaker 8: Definitely been a Facebook game.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are spelling blood.

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Speaker 12: They got what he got.

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Speaker 5: Two teams they're respect one another, but all like one another.

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Speaker 7: We'll see how that changes things.

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Speaker 6: I'll be in Baltimore, so will that guy, Steve weisch

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Speaker 6: Ian is not going to be in Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, Ian, you miss out, Steve.

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Speaker 6: These teams split the season series, the regular season series.

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Speaker 5: Well, Steve, on a different topic, Zay Flowers his status

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Speaker 1: That is the final game of wild Card Weekend, set

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Speaker 1: Poka Takua had practiced one time coming off. Ir was

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Speaker 1: out there, made a huge impact. You see early on

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Speaker 1: here Matthew Stafford look like a man much younger than

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Speaker 1: him finding Cooper Cup in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: That one right there tied the game up at fourteen all.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward to the third quarter, Stafford going up top

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Speaker 1: to DeMarcus Robinson a twenty five yard score for the

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Speaker 1: Rams to take their firstly. Late fourth quarter, now Vikings

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Speaker 1: down twenty eight to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Last Gaster backed up into their own end zone.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald gets pulled down by Byron Young for his safety,

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Speaker 1: but that looked like a scene from the Exorcist. Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald's head practically gets ripped off, but as fans of

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Speaker 1: Minnesota have grown a custom this year, that is apparently

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Speaker 1: not a penalty.

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson was frustrated.

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Speaker 1: Little did they know that day Vikings would roll on

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Speaker 1: to be a fourteen win team, a Rams team that

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Speaker 1: at that time was talking about are they going to

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Speaker 1: trade Cooper Cup after a one and four start? Here

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Speaker 1: they are as we welcome Bridge at Condon into the

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Speaker 1: conversation about to square off in a wild card playoff game.

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Speaker 1: So the question really bridget with l LA played in

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Speaker 1: that game that was one of those turning points in

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Speaker 1: their states. How do they replicate that and get the

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Speaker 1: better of the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Again on Monday.

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Speaker 13: Well, Tom Sean McVay was asked that very question this

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Speaker 13: week and he said, it's a balance of trying to

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Speaker 13: do what you did well in that Week eight matchup.

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Speaker 13: But remembering that was all the way back in October,

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Speaker 13: these teams have completely changed, both of them having players back.

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Speaker 13: As you mentioned, Puka Nakua had one practice under his

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Speaker 13: belt going into that game, so he understands you can't

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Speaker 13: completely just go back to that game plan and do

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Speaker 13: it the exact same way you did during Week eight.

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Speaker 13: But let's break down what the Rams did well in

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Speaker 13: that game. First, it was one of Stafford's best games

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Speaker 13: of the season, over a one to twenty five passer rating,

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Speaker 13: almost three hundred yards, four touchdowns. But it wasn't just that.

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Speaker 13: It was the fast start that the Rams had. They

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Speaker 13: scored just thirty points in first quarters this entire season.

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Speaker 13: That's the second fewest in the league. Their Week eight

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Speaker 13: matchup against the Vikings just one of three games this

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Speaker 13: season where they scored a touchdown in the first quarter.

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Speaker 13: More specifically, they had a passing touchdown in the first quarter.

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Speaker 13: It was the first game back with puku Akua and

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Speaker 13: Cooper Cup together. But if the Rams want to beat

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Speaker 13: this fourteen and three hot Vikings team Tom that you

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Speaker 13: know is fired up after losing the one seed and

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Speaker 13: the division to the Lions last Sunday, they cannot come

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Speaker 13: out of here with a slow start.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the score in that Vikings Lions game was by

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Speaker 1: the end, it looks like a blowoup, but really, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a close game. All the way through and the

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Speaker 1: Vikings missed a ton of opportunities in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Big part of that was that was not the Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald we've seen for most of this season. That was

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Speaker 1: the Sam Donald saw maybe in years past, where things

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Speaker 1: are coming out high and he's not getting.

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Speaker 2: Through the progressions.

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Speaker 1: Where does the confidence level stand right now in that

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Speaker 1: Vikings locker room with a guy who led them to

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Speaker 1: fourteen regular season wins, albeit.

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Speaker 2: To stay wild cards. We head into the postseeds right.

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Speaker 13: One game is not going to determine the confidence level

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Speaker 13: that this team has in their quarterback, Sam Darnold. That

504
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Speaker 13: game against the Lions, he had less than two hundred

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Speaker 13: passing yards, his fewest amount of passing yards that he's

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Speaker 13: had in a start in two seasons. Kevin O'Connell was

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Speaker 13: asked about his quarterback this week. He said because of

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Speaker 13: the way he's seen him respond from moments of adversity,

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Speaker 13: he's excited to get to work with him this week,

510
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Speaker 13: saying his confidence level that they can get him right

511
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Speaker 13: back on track is as high as it could be.

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Speaker 13: Remember that Week eight matchup with the Rams, Donald had

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Speaker 13: a one twenty eight point eight passer rating, the second

514
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Speaker 13: highest passer rating of his entire career. But the team

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Speaker 13: still went on to lose. Well, how did they respond

516
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Speaker 13: to that loss? They went on in one nine straight game,

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Speaker 13: So everybody's wondering how's he going to respond after a

518
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Speaker 13: bad performance against the Lions to be something to watch,

519
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Speaker 13: whether he comes, you know, really motivated here at Sofi Stadium.

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Speaker 13: A little fun fact, he hasn't played January football in

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Speaker 13: LA since he played in the Rose Bowl, and he

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Speaker 13: set some records in that game. So I don't know,

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Speaker 13: maybe January in La is where Sam Darnell needs to be.

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Speaker 13: But the Vikings are hoping that he is the answer

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Speaker 13: to earn them their first playoff victory since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to get it out of your system.

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Speaker 1: Bridget have that bad game, even though it was a

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Speaker 1: high leverage national TV week eighteen, better than than Monday

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Speaker 1: Night against the Rams, thank you very much. And ething

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Speaker 1: can happen on wild Card weekend, even a seven and

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Speaker 1: nineteen coming out and having a guy credit earthquake or

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Speaker 1: rather a base quake. That play happened fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you some historical perspective on the beast quake

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Speaker 1: run coming up after this though, we will talk to

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Speaker 1: that guy right there, Luke Keikley, one of the best

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Speaker 1: defenders of his era and now a Hall of Fame finalists.

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Speaker 1: Some stories about Steve Smith, Jared Allen, and a little

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Speaker 1: bit of time talk about what he's seeing in the

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Speaker 1: rise of Bryce Young. That's with Luke Kickley next on

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Speaker 1: the Insiders. The class of twenty twenty five for the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame will be unveiled February sixth

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Speaker 1: at NFL Honors in New Orleans. One guy among the

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Speaker 1: fifteen modern era finalists, the twenty twelve Defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Year College Football Hall of Fame class member Luke Keickley,

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Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players of his era and

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Speaker 1: also our guest right now here on the Insiders with

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Speaker 1: me Tom Pillicero as well as Judy Batista. Luke, Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: this is your first year of eligibility. Not everybody gets

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Speaker 1: to be a finalist right out of the gate. When

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Speaker 1: you heard that news, we'll see what plays out. When

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Speaker 1: you heard that news, what was your reaction.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's I think it's super cool obviously

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Speaker 12: to be on that list, and you know you grew

554
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Speaker 12: up watching the game. And you go to NFL Honors

555
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Speaker 12: at Super Bowl and every year you see them trot

556
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Speaker 12: the guy out there that make it as the Hall

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Speaker 12: of Fame and Chinese for that season. And you look

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Speaker 12: at that list and it's guys that I played with

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Speaker 12: and Steve and Jared Allen and then guys that I

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Speaker 12: played against with, you know, Marshall Yonda and jarr Evans,

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Speaker 12: And it's a fantastic list that has tons of football

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Speaker 12: history in it, and it's super cool just to be

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Speaker 12: named on a list with those guys. And like you said,

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Speaker 12: we'll see what happens, but you know, I'm I'm really

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Speaker 12: poling for guys like Steve. He's he was a guy

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Speaker 12: that I played with that had a big impact on

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Speaker 12: my career and I was very fortunate to have the

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Speaker 12: opportunity to play with him and.

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Speaker 7: Take us on a little trip down memory lane.

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Speaker 6: When you think about your career, like, what's the first

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Speaker 6: thing that pops into your head?

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Speaker 8: I think, I think how much fun we all had

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Speaker 8: in Carolina.

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Speaker 12: You know, I was very fortunate to play with one

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Speaker 12: team my whole time, my whole career.

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Speaker 8: You know, we were in Carolina. That's where I got drafted.

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Speaker 12: We had such a great group of guys, you know,

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Speaker 12: Steve and Jordan Gross when I first got there, and

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Speaker 12: then you know Thomas Davis and Ryan and Greg and

580
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Speaker 12: Cam and you know, I am missing guys. Charles Johnson

581
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Speaker 12: was an order veteran guy that was there when I

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Speaker 12: was there, and you know, we just had so much

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Speaker 12: fun with everything we did in the lunch room, in

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Speaker 12: the locker room, on planes. Obviously, playing games at practice

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Speaker 12: like that is what I missed the most, or just

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Speaker 12: the relationships that we formed, you know, playing the game

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Speaker 12: of football, guys like Christian Obviously you're showing that was

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Speaker 12: a great play at the end of you know, the

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Speaker 12: twenty seventeen season in the playoffs against the Saints, and

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Speaker 12: to play with guys like that, especially guys that are

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Speaker 12: still playing like Christian that he's playing at such a

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Speaker 12: high level. You got him when he was a young

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Speaker 12: player and he hasn't changed one bit. He still works

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Speaker 12: his butt off, and I think the relationship side is

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Speaker 12: what I missed the most.

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Speaker 1: So the other two guys you mentioned that are also

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame final with Steve Smith, who his last

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Speaker 1: two years in Carolina was with you and Jared Allen

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Speaker 1: who that was the last year that he played in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You're talking about two of the biggest personalities

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Speaker 1: of anybody, forget footb players, any people I've ever met.

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Speaker 1: What are your favorite memories of each of those guys.

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Speaker 12: So obviously I played with I played with Steve. Steve

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Speaker 12: was there when I first got there. So when I

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Speaker 12: came in, I was twenty one year old years old,

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Speaker 12: I was the rookie. Steve was Steve Smith, you know,

607
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Speaker 12: Triple Crown winner, edge, attitude, toughness, competitive, But Steve was

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Speaker 12: also a great older guy in the sense of, you know,

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Speaker 12: he showed you how to do things. He talked about Charlotte,

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Speaker 12: he talked about his experiences. He's a dad, he's got

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Speaker 12: four kids. His wife Angie is awesome. Like he's a

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Speaker 12: stud on the football field. He's obviously smitty, He's got

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Speaker 12: the edge, the attitude, the toughness, and the grit. But

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Speaker 12: he is a great dude, a great teammate and a

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Speaker 12: really good dad. And I think that's the biggest thing

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Speaker 12: as we all kind of get away from the game

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Speaker 12: of football, you see what these guys really are and

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Speaker 12: just being around Steve in how close he is with

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Speaker 12: his kids.

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Speaker 8: That's what I think.

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Speaker 12: Is super cool about these guys is you take him

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Speaker 12: away from the game of football, what are they away

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Speaker 12: from the game of football? Great people and that's how

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Speaker 12: Steve was. And then when I was in year four

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Speaker 12: when we brought Jared in and it was just to me,

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Speaker 12: it was super cool. I didn't get to know Jared

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Speaker 12: as well was I obviously knew Steve, but you know,

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Speaker 12: Jared was a great teammate, had unbelievable stories. I don't

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Speaker 12: know where he got all these stories from, but he

630
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Speaker 12: had a story for everything you could you could think of.

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Speaker 12: He had one, you know, for every application on planes,

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Speaker 12: in locker rooms and team meeting rooms. The guy was

633
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Speaker 12: a professional coffee drinker. He could drink coffee all day.

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Speaker 12: But the one thing that I wanted to see from

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Speaker 12: Jared Allen when he got here, it was something that

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Speaker 12: I grew up watching him in Kansas City him in Minnesota,

637
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Speaker 12: was this when he got a sack. I wanted to

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Speaker 12: be there when he got a sack and he and

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Speaker 12: he did his sack celebration. I think his first sack

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Speaker 12: of the year might against might have been against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 12: We played at home at night, and to see him

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Speaker 12: do that sat dance. For me, it was like the

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Speaker 12: completion of me being around Jared Allen.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's Jared Allen exactly. So all this,

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Speaker 8: all the.

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Speaker 12: Dumb stuff that you you you forget about until you

647
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Speaker 12: talk about and now with Jared was was super cool.

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Speaker 12: Just him on planes, him telling stories, him talking about

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Speaker 12: his family.

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Speaker 8: He's got I think he has two daughters. He's just

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Speaker 8: a great dude.

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Speaker 6: I know you're part of the radio team for the

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Speaker 6: Panthers now, so you're around the current guys. Tell me

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Speaker 6: your impressions of Bryce Young, especially what we saw from

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Speaker 6: him in the second part of the season.

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Speaker 12: I think the first thing with Bryce is just overall

657
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Speaker 12: physical toughness. You know, he got hit. I think he

658
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 12: had sack sixty two times last year. The start of

659
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 12: the season obviously didn't go his way. He got he

660
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Speaker 12: had hit some and then and then coach canal decided

661
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Speaker 12: to play Andy for a couple of games, and then

662
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Speaker 12: when Bryce came back, he was a completely different player.

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Speaker 12: And I think, you know, I think a lot of

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Speaker 12: credit goes, you know, obviously to coach Canalis or just

665
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Speaker 12: giving him an opportunity to sit. I think a lot

666
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Speaker 12: of it goes to Andy for stepping in there and

667
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Speaker 12: really showing Bryce, you know, this.

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Speaker 8: Is what it can look like.

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Speaker 12: I think Andy did a great job teaching him, but

670
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Speaker 12: I think a lot of the credit really goes to

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Speaker 12: Bryce in the sense of he could have easily shut

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Speaker 12: it down, went went in a corner, gotten upset and said, hey,

673
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Speaker 12: you know what, this isn't fair. This is I'm a

674
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Speaker 12: first overall pick, I'm a Heisman Trophy winner, and I'll

675
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Speaker 12: run a national championship. I shouldn't have to deal with this.

676
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Speaker 12: But Bryce took it in stride. He learned a lot,

677
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Speaker 12: he took a break, and then when he came back,

678
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Speaker 12: he just ripped it and it looked it looked like

679
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 12: he was having a ton of fun. I mean, we

680
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Speaker 12: would see it on the field, we'd see it, see

681
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Speaker 12: it on the TV monitors. The smile on his face

682
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Speaker 12: is what you want. And it reminds me of Cam

683
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Speaker 12: when Cam was rolling. Cam was always smile and always

684
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Speaker 12: having a ton of fun. And when Bryce came back,

685
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Speaker 12: that's what we saw from him was just it was

686
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Speaker 12: just happiness and joy and having fun.

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Speaker 8: And obviously that comes with having success.

688
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Speaker 12: But his physical toughness, his mental toughness, and his ability

689
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Speaker 12: to come back around to finding joy and having fun playing.

690
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Speaker 8: The game of football is I think what really helped him.

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Speaker 1: So you and Steve actually went to Germany when the

692
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Speaker 1: Panthers came over there a couple of months ago. Here

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Speaker 1: one of the enduring images from that trip, I believe,

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Speaker 1: and I think we have the footage here was you

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Speaker 1: with the drum. Of course, the motto of the Panthers

696
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Speaker 1: is keep pounding. In order to keep pounding, what you

697
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Speaker 1: want to do is not break the drum.

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Speaker 2: Was this a setup?

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Speaker 1: Did you know that you were going to pound that

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Speaker 1: thing directly through or because I can see on the

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Speaker 1: very first hit you already got a little dent in

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Speaker 1: there and you kept pounding exactly that spot.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think you're I think I don't think i'd

704
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Speaker 12: be able to do it again if I tried. I

705
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Speaker 12: think you know, I hit it in the same spot

706
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Speaker 12: a couple of times in a row, and if you'd

707
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 12: watch me play golf, you'd understand that my swing path

708
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 12: is never the same.

709
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Speaker 8: So I think I caught lightning in a bottle there.

710
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Speaker 12: But I'll tell you what the energy in that stadium

711
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Speaker 12: for that game and the energy in Germany and the

712
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Speaker 12: fans and how much of those fans know and love

713
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 12: about football was awesome, and it was it was an

714
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 12: afternoon game that you know, it's one of those typical,

715
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Speaker 12: you know, four o'clock type games where starts out in

716
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Speaker 12: the day and then as the game goes on, it

717
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 12: gets night, it gets dark.

718
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Speaker 8: The lights come on. It was cold on grass.

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Speaker 12: It felt a lot like a playoff game, like a

720
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Speaker 12: game you'd play, you know, the end of the season

721
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Speaker 12: late December, early January, cold outside, lights on great grass.

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Speaker 8: Energy in the stands was unbelievable. It was.

723
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Speaker 12: It was a really cool environment for those guys that

724
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Speaker 12: play in and you know, I'm sure if you'd ask

725
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 12: a bunch of them, they would be super pumped to

726
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Speaker 12: have the opportunity to have done that.

727
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Speaker 1: Been a little bit since the Panthers were in a

728
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Speaker 1: true playoff environment, But like you said, we saw down

729
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Speaker 1: the stretch from Bryce, there is definitely hope for that

730
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Speaker 1: franchise here as we head into twenty twenty five. Luke,

731
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Speaker 1: thanks a ton for being here man, Best of luck.

732
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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll see you down there in New Orleans next month.

733
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Speaker 1: Putting on that gold jacket.

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Speaker 8: Awesome, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: Wild Card weekend KICKSOFF Saturday afternoon with Chargers Texans in Houston.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, C. J.

737
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Speaker 5: Stroud, Who's got it better than us?

738
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Speaker 12: Season? Now that season's over, we are moving on, Howards

739
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Speaker 12: and Awkwards to the playoffs be in Houston.

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Speaker 8: Next Saturday or so to give each other high five.

741
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Speaker 2: Got one question for who's got it better than us?

742
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Speaker 5: Chargers Texans in the Perfect Texans spot Saturday afternoon kicking

743
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Speaker 5: off the playoffs schedule. Actually going to be an awesome game,

744
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: going to be electric at nr G s M. And

745
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: the reason I know that is because our good friend

746
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Speaker 5: Omar Ruiz, who is with the Chargers today, is going

747
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: to be with the Texans tomorrow covering that game. Omar,

748
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: thanks for hanging out with us again on the Insiders.

749
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Speaker 5: Let's talk about Justin Herbert. Obviously one of the focal

750
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: points of this game, and he was already pretty good.

751
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: I think we know that. What has he done to

752
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: kind of hone his game a little bit gearing up

753
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 5: to this playoff stretch?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and Justin Herbert, remember his rookie year, splashed onto

755
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 10: the scene, immediately became a superstar. That franchise quarterback for

756
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Speaker 10: the Chargers, but he has shown signs of improvement this season.

757
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Speaker 10: Just look at that statistic there at the bottom, joining

758
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 10: the likes of Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady as the

759
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 10: third player in NFL history with three or fewer interceptions

760
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 10: throwing it four hundred times or more. Jim Harbaugh trying

761
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Speaker 10: to explain that yesterday, saying that when he gets to

762
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Speaker 10: the top of his dropback, you don't know which throw

763
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Speaker 10: is coming from him. It could be a post or

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Speaker 10: a slant, or something out into the flat, maybe a

765
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Speaker 10: running back out of the backfield, so defenders can't get

766
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Speaker 10: a key on that. We've also seen him improve his

767
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 10: play action game. Offensive coordinator Greg Roman said justin Herbert

768
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Speaker 10: hadn't necessarily done a lot of that in his career,

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Speaker 10: but it is a focus to their offense and he

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Speaker 10: has shown that development throughout the course of the year.

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Speaker 10: We saw him develop the chemistry with his receivers, a

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Speaker 10: lot of young receivers stepping up. We saw the monster

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Speaker 10: game from Quentin Johnston against the Raiders on Sunday, those

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Speaker 10: thirteen catches one hundred and eighty six yards.

775
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Speaker 2: We've seen rookie.

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Speaker 10: Ladd McConkey come on as one of his go to targets.

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Speaker 10: So that development both individually with his teammates, all signs

778
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Speaker 10: of Justin Herbert improving and having this fantastic season looking

779
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Speaker 10: to get his first playoff win Ian on Saturday in Houston.

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Speaker 5: Coaching man, turns out it works. All right, let's put

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Speaker 5: this around, talk about c J. Stroud, what the Chargers

782
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Speaker 5: are doing to prepare for him, and you know it's

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Speaker 5: a very Michigan, Michigan themed Chargers team. I think they

784
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Speaker 5: probably have some familiarity with CJ. Stroud from his college

785
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Speaker 5: days as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great familiarity.

787
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Speaker 10: Of course, we know that Jim Harbaugh and defensive coordinator

788
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 10: Jesse Minter they played c J. Stroud a couple times

789
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Speaker 10: when Stroud was at Ohio State and those guys were

790
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Speaker 10: still coaching at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: They went to and zero against c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 10: So they'll go to Houston with a lot of confidence. Coincidentally,

793
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 10: today Ian is the one year anniversary of Harbaugh and

794
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 10: Mintor and the rest of the Michigan Wolverines winning the

795
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 10: National Championship at NRG Stadium, so they're looking forward to

796
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 10: going back there. But Jim Harbaugh saying he recalls recruiting CJ.

797
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 10: Stroud back in high school, flying out to Lax, driving

798
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 10: out Tarancho Cucamonga to see this superstar in the making play,

799
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Speaker 10: so they're familiar with his game. Mintor saying today that CJ.

800
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 10: Stroud can make any throw on the field. He's especially

801
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 10: dynamic in the pocket. Evade's defenders can throw whether he's

802
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 10: running left, throw whether he's running right, So he'll be

803
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 10: a handful to deal with. Also, the physicality of that

804
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 10: Houston Texans running game with obviously Joe Mixon and Damian

805
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 10: Piers no matter which running back is is out there.

806
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Speaker 10: Linebacker Denzel Perriman, who spent last year with the Texans,

807
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 10: told me today they're going to have to bring their

808
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 10: heart hat when they play these guys. But he said,

809
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 10: we lift weights too, so they're looking forward to bring

810
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 10: that physicality aspect to the game as well.

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Speaker 5: I I love Waits too, by the way, you sure

812
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Speaker 5: one we do anyway, Omar, you sure you do, Omar,

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much for joining us on the insiders.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy that game. It's going to be loud as anything,

815
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Speaker 5: but it is going to be fun. Then I mentioned

816
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: loud well, here's a play that literally broke the sound.

817
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Speaker 5: You know, thingy broke the sound.

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Speaker 7: Thing.

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Speaker 5: Let's get a historical perspective of the beast Quake, one

820
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Speaker 5: of my favorite plays in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, What more of.

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Speaker 1: The insiders you are in Luck? This show now live

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Speaker 1: every weeknight, seven pm Eastern Time on NFL Plus and

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Speaker 1: NFL Network all the way through Super Bowl fifty nine

825
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Who is going to end up in

826
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: that game down there which is thirty two days away? Well,

827
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Speaker 1: the road begins this weekend in the wild Card playoffs,

828
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Speaker 1: where we've seen a lot of wild things through the

829
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Speaker 1: years happen, including one fourteen years ago today.

830
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Speaker 2: Turning handle Lynch webside, I'll look at this run.

831
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Speaker 4: What a run?

832
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Speaker 5: He just like bub He's caught the forty midfield.

833
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Speaker 3: Forty five is on the run.

834
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Speaker 8: Ledge forty isn't at thirty five looking at go.

835
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Speaker 5: He's dancing his way.

836
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: We could go.

837
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Speaker 1: We is gonna go on touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Sayhawks?

839
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Speaker 1: Oh my word, that s as good as the effort

840
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Speaker 1: as I've ever seen in my life from a funny.

841
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Speaker 4: Back who must to knock five guys down on the

842
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: way to the end zone.

843
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me, Get off me, He said to

844
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: Tracy Porter, what believable?

845
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Speaker 2: Who Dad?

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Speaker 6: Were Dad?

847
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Speaker 12: And wait to see all and we're going on in

848
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Speaker 12: the playoffs.

849
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Speaker 1: Ver I remember watching that play in my old apartment

850
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: downtown Minneapolis like it was yesterday. And there's so many things,

851
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: Judy about that play, Like we kind of forget a

852
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: little bit of the historical context, including the fact that

853
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch was not Marshawn Lynch at that point. He

854
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: was a cast off from the Bills. He got traded

855
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: to Seattle, that lost me to the next stressphere. And

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00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: also he's going up against the Saints team. It was

857
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: almost to plaster these guys. Seattle was like seven to

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00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: nine that season, the Saints you ever ready thought was

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Speaker 1: going to roll them?

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Speaker 2: And we end up, Judy with one of the great

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Speaker 2: plays of all time.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is the play that made Marshawn Lynch besmode right.

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Speaker 6: My favorite part of the play is when he stiff

864
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 6: arms somebody with his left arm and like goes flying

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Speaker 6: about five yards himself.

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Speaker 7: And then keeps running. Just a great play.

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Speaker 5: One of my favorite things about this is the Mike

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Speaker 5: may I call on the replay. People think that was

869
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: the when it was good. That was actually the replay

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Speaker 5: where he says get off me. Encapsulates it perfectly.

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Speaker 4: Love it.

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow. See them