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Speaker 3: Say, if I give that, he is that.

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Speaker 4: Good moor Nes. We were then welcome to the No

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Speaker 4: Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, May sixteenth.

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Speaker 4: Here we are back in the Classic Factory on J. E.

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Speaker 4: Skeets and alongside me as always, Tass Mellis.

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Speaker 5: Can you believe it? Guys? Only three playoff series left?

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Speaker 5: Enjoy them while you got them? Huh?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 5: Conference finals funds?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 3: Two three twenty one games? Max?

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Speaker 4: I literally thought you were gonna do the two conference

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Speaker 4: finals and then the flames oiler. That's what I was

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Speaker 4: trying to say. Yep, yeah, we're right, three three matchups left.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 5: Why you don't think I'd enjoy the NBA Finals?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I was looking at the bracket here, looking at this

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Speaker 5: odd logo. Did you see that Johnny Goudro shot?

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Speaker 3: Ah, that was phenomenal, top shelf.

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Speaker 4: Here we go. We got our top shot, hot boy,

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Speaker 4: Trey Kirby, International Man of Mystery taking it to the

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Speaker 4: Max Leela friends.

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Speaker 3: That is least my leafs do.

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Speaker 4: The maple laughs living up to their name.

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Speaker 3: Good season crazy.

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Speaker 4: Uh and last, certainly not least rocking the hockey music.

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Speaker 4: Already here on a Monday, super producer JD. Hello, there

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Speaker 4: is and here we are. Any final thoughts on those

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Speaker 4: entertaining NHL Game seven stats because the NBA ones were duds? No,

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Speaker 4: you're probing playoffs?

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Speaker 5: Somebody Rangel pens oh t yes, Hod.

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Speaker 2: Panner and get that one in? Am I right?

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Speaker 4: Is this k hockey than you do?

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Speaker 7: I guess write down one name in the game, so

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Speaker 2: Pannerin and Johnny Hockey.

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Speaker 7: Can Nearra Bruad scored the game with Yeah, I couldn't

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Speaker 7: believe it with the broccoli cheese bowl right through the

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Speaker 7: five hole.

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Speaker 5: You just pander into us.

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Speaker 4: slash no Dunks for a subscription. Okay, yeah, NHL was

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Speaker 4: the conference finals tomorrow podcast. We do the deep dive. Okay,

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Speaker 4: This is shell water only.

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Speaker 7: Bulls won ninety six fifty four. They led at halftime

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Speaker 7: six two thousand and eight. The Celtics won by thirty nine.

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Speaker 7: That was also a home win.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 7: This was the Suns a complete no show at home

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Speaker 7: Game seven during a season they had by far the

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Speaker 7: best record in the league. Total duds from the Big three.

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Speaker 7: Devin Booker eleven points, three of fourteen, shooting oh of

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Speaker 7: thirty seven, all of his skills left. There's no other

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Speaker 7: way to figure out what's going on here. They barely

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Speaker 7: this might be the worst Game seven loss in NBA history, considering,

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Speaker 7: you know, the entirety of the season, how far the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty three points in the end. The difference is

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Speaker 5: It was hard watching everything. It was just hard. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Booker and Doncic would fight after the game. Booker and

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Speaker 3: Since Kobe Shack.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Kobe and Shacks. So wow, wow, just just

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Speaker 4: It was crazy. I mean, Luca, this get's thrown around

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Speaker 4: talking true with this guy. This guy loves this shit.

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Speaker 1: He was smirking after the first two baskets and I

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Speaker 1: very rare that I am actually like feeling sorry for

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Speaker 1: He was putting on a show, just like embarrassing guys

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Speaker 4: Far between there. Was a yard for us. Note there

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Speaker 1: This Sun's but Sons Bucks was the exactly but one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was enjoying it every shot there early, smirking

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Speaker 5: when Devin Booker, yes, you know, he had that first

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Speaker 4: Phoenix joins the six oh seven Mavericks and the fifteen

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Speaker 4: Sixty four wins, it's a lot. Not that many teams

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Speaker 4: And we said it like the problem was you let them.

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Speaker 7: Very weird that it was a repeat of Game six

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Speaker 7: because Game six was a terrible effort by Phoenix as well.

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Speaker 7: They but it seemed like, okay, fine, if we lose

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Speaker 7: Ayton had a poor game. He didn't really do much

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Speaker 7: it would be great if Ayton was a dump the

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Speaker 2: That's just not the.

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Speaker 7: Same with Michale Bridges, Like those are guys who need

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Speaker 7: you have no chance of winning and that's why they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not only was it a repeat of Game six,

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Speaker 4: He averaged twenty three and a half and very little

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Speaker 3: They said we went good enough.

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Speaker 1: He's like, and you know, it's not like someone like

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Speaker 1: Yeah you do, yeah do, because we hate losing on

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Speaker 4: Oh no, for sure, Okay, yeah, that means they could

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Speaker 1: what we saw last season that they had really responded

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Speaker 1: well to the heartbreaking devastation of losing the final. It

439
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Speaker 1: looked like they were much better and Bridges had taken

440
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Speaker 1: a big step up, Cam Johnson, you know, those guys

441
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Speaker 1: who had really benefited from the experience. But ultimately it

442
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,240
Speaker 1: was their two main stars that let them down. I

443
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,879
Speaker 1: was in this one out, so, I mean Booker's hesitancy

444
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Speaker 1: as well, there's no excuse for that. He I don't

445
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 1: know what he was doing out there, but he didn't

446
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Speaker 1: look to attack and cool.

447
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean tass is right, he was attacking

448
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 4: in the first quarter, nothing was dropping still, and then

449
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 4: doubles kept coming and coming, and he didn't have these

450
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 4: last two games. I mean he shot brutal percentages over

451
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Speaker 4: these games six and seven here along with all these

452
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 4: other guys on his team that came up short, wild

453
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 4: and now Lucas through to the conference finals, and uh,

454
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Speaker 4: well the league is pumped.

455
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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

456
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is huge. He's a top

457
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 4: five wherever you got him on your list in this league,

458
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 4: obviously a super young talent.

459
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Speaker 3: He still he finished and paid behind him Booker, I

460
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Speaker 3: guess that's right.

461
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Speaker 4: There's some stack going around Twitter. This is the first

462
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Speaker 4: time that we've ever had a conference finals with the

463
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Speaker 4: four teams where we didn't have at least one guy

464
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Speaker 4: who finished in the top four of the MVP voting.

465
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Speaker 3: Wow.

466
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Speaker 4: Just a weird little fact going around there on the

467
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Speaker 4: old Twitter machine.

468
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that one. Yeah, I was looking it

469
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Speaker 5: up yesterday. Who's going to be the highest voter left?

470
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Speaker 4: And yes, either Luca or Tatum.

471
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Speaker 6: Then who?

472
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 4: Uh Luca he finished fifth and the Tatum was six.

473
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Speaker 3: Is that right? I think I thought it was book.

474
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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the Suns sort of offseas here,

475
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 4: especially eighton, and then we will get to just sort

476
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 4: of teeing up the Warriors son, excuse me, Warriors Mavericks

477
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 4: Conference finals. So what is the biggest question? Is it

478
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 4: the eighton dilemma here for the Sons of offseasons or

479
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 4: something else?

480
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, it's it's DeAndre and he's a restricted free agent.

481
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 5: He wanted a five year max before this year. Apparently

482
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Speaker 5: the Sun's front office offered him four in the max

483
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 5: but wouldn't go to the five in the max. He is,

484
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 5: you know, an extremely solid player sixteen and ten sixty

485
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 5: percent shooting over his four year career. Does he dare

486
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 5: sign a qualifying offer and just be paid sixteen mil

487
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,239
Speaker 5: this offseason and then go wherever he wants? Or you know,

488
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 5: does he just look at the landscape, get a four

489
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 5: year max from someone else and potentially have the Suns

490
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Speaker 5: re sign as they can sign him to that same

491
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Speaker 5: deal and he would come back, you know, talking about

492
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Speaker 5: this championship window, do they believe in DeAndre Ayton as

493
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Speaker 5: their number two? I would say, because if Chris Paul

494
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 5: is thirty seven years old, and he couldn't get it

495
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Speaker 5: done in this offseason when the opposition made it clear

496
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 5: let's double Devin. See what happened, and nobody could step up. Obviously,

497
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 5: DeAndre Ayton left this game pissed at Monty Williams. I

498
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 5: suppose because he only played seventeen minutes. I'm not sure

499
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 5: that's a riff that they can't heal. But is he

500
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 5: enough to be a number two guy? Are they going

501
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 5: to be able to go to him over and over

502
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 5: and over again? And he isn't a dumpet just give

503
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 5: it to him, face up type guy. He is a

504
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 5: guy who needs to be on the roll to be

505
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 5: set up. And that's the worrisome part if you're thinking

506
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Speaker 5: about winning next season, Chris paul Is, it's got to

507
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 5: be the age. I mean, what else could it be

508
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 5: that he just isn't able to do it for four

509
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 5: straight series? He was incredible for part of this run.

510
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 5: So do you believe in Aighton to be that number

511
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 5: two guy? I suppose they could, but you know, with

512
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 5: just the lack of ability and mckel bridges and Jay

513
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 5: Crowder right now as your other options in this starting

514
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 5: lineup to be able to create for themselves eight and

515
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 5: sort of has to be that guy. So that's the

516
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 5: question that they're asking, not only the number they give him,

517
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 5: but yeah, you're locking into another couple years because you've

518
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 5: got to remember, Chris Paul is getting paid approximately thirty

519
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 5: mil for the next two seasons here, and is it

520
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 5: a thirty he's signed. Yeah, he signed that three year,

521
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 5: ninety million dollars deal that starts next season. I thought

522
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Speaker 5: it started this season. So that's what your team.

523
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 4: Is, right And so if you give eighton the max

524
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 4: or something around that, then you are a luxury tax

525
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: team here too, which we have. It's been all long

526
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 4: time since I think Sarver leaning into that idea, like

527
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: nine oh ten, ten was the last time the Sun's

528
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: went into the luxury tax. But yeah, what do you

529
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Speaker 4: do with Ayton?

530
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Speaker 2: He's going to be back.

531
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Speaker 7: I would imagine he'll get a MAX from somebody, and

532
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Speaker 7: I think that the son should match it because he's

533
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Speaker 7: still a young guy. I don't think. I don't think

534
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Speaker 7: that the qualifying offer is going to be the way

535
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Speaker 7: he goes.

536
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Speaker 2: That's pretty rare.

537
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Speaker 7: And I remember during his A draft time he signed

538
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 7: with Puma because they offered him the biggest bag, so

539
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 7: I assume he's still watching that bag and he's a

540
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 7: solid player. But you saw you definitely saw his limitations here.

541
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Speaker 7: I thought the Suns actually missed Dario Sarich kind of

542
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 7: in this series. They just don't have a small ball

543
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 7: necessarily line up because, like you're saying, they would rather

544
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 7: run McGee out there as a backup guy or maybe

545
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 7: Biambo as a backup guy. So that little variance of

546
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 7: having a small ball five. Getting Sarch back will help

547
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 7: next summer. But I mean, I don't know what's going

548
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 7: on with Aton. It is a weird season considering they

549
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 7: didn't extend him right away and it ended kind of

550
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 7: strange with him playing seventeen minutes. Monty Williams said, it's internal.

551
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 7: He's probably probably everybody's just pissed. Yeah, when that's happening, right,

552
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 7: Like Ayton was kind of loafing defensively. So they're down forty,

553
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 7: let's yank him. But I think he'll be back. I

554
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 7: think he's solid, and you would love to see him

555
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 7: take that next step to be either a playmaker in

556
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 7: the short role, which doesn't necessarily seem like his game,

557
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 7: or more likely to me, really develop your post game

558
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 7: so you can punish some small guy inside. He's got

559
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 7: a nice hook shot, but I would love to see

560
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 7: him try and dunk some more the next season, get

561
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 7: to the line, so I think he'll be back. I

562
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 7: think it's smart to bring him back. This is obviously

563
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 7: still a very good team. You just need your stars

564
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 7: the show up in star making time.

565
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Speaker 4: So you think it's more likely as a restricted free

566
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: agent some some team. I mean, there's not a ton

567
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: of teams with that type of cap space, but Pistons, Piecers, Magic,

568
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: I think the Spurs are one of them. Blazers could

569
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 4: get there, But you think they would offer a max deal.

570
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 4: Suns match so that's a four year then sort.

571
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: Of max deal.

572
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they run it back.

573
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: You agree with that absolutely.

574
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Speaker 1: There'll be a ton of teams who will just throw

575
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: the max at him to just see if they can

576
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: entice the Suns to let him go, But the Sons

577
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: won't do that. If I'm the Suns, I just signed

578
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: him to the max five year straight away, I would

579
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: do that because he's only twenty three. That contract is

580
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: not going to be one you're going to be tough

581
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: to move. If things don't work out, he certainly can

582
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: improve his game. Trade mentions the inside so off he

583
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: only gets the free throw line about two times a game.

584
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: He needs to be much more dominant inside. We've shown

585
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: flashes off this season. I love that little jump hook

586
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: that he's gotten, the little push shot in the lane there.

587
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: So he can develop. And if you're the Suns, okay,

588
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: your window is still open. You may as all invest

589
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: in these guys right now, and then if it still

590
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: doesn't work in a year or two, then you can

591
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: move on. But you don't give up a young talent

592
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: like that just because he's a bit pissed off right now,

593
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: unless you're getting something back in return that's even better

594
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: than him, which I don't think they will do.

595
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: So I think it's always the reason for not doing

596
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: it in the first place. Then, I mean you're saying

597
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: to it now, Yeah, good season, right, Greg.

598
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: I think it's because they cheap down on him myself.

599
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you draft this guy number one, and he's

600
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: shown flashes of talent, like really good talent.

601
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: He should be an.

602
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: All Star in the next couple of years. You just

603
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: I think you would just say you send the message

604
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: we believe in this guy again, knowing that this is

605
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: not going to be one of those contracts in two

606
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: years time, Like, how are we going to get off this?

607
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: I think you have to invest in him and just

608
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: say just to say to the other teams, he's not

609
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: available under any circumstances. He may want to go somewhere else.

610
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: But if you're the Suns, keep this window open, like

611
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: you don't just throw out the baby with the bathwater,

612
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Say, Wow, that's it. We

613
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: had our chance. Booker is still I mean he's twenty five. Yeah, okay,

614
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: Chris Paul Shure. But Bridge is let's a twenty five

615
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: as well. He's also on a fairly big deal. This

616
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: is a good corps. This is a very good team.

617
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: They can go much further than they did this season.

618
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: So it's very good team.

619
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: But it's a very expensive team. Suddenly with all yeah,

620
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 4: you got to I mean when you especially got like

621
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: Sarber right now, still in control of course, but uh,

622
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: you know, if you're only coming up, if you're coming

623
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 4: up short in the second round, then you're not going

624
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 4: into luxury time.

625
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: You think you're gonna come up shorter. If Phoenix guys

626
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: like et though in your team as well. Again, if

627
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: if you've got a better option out there, sure, I

628
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: don't think there is for them right now. And again,

629
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: he's a billionaire. I'm not going to be crying teams.

630
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: He has to spend a bit more money to win

631
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: a championship.

632
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: Is there anything else that's sort of surrounding the Sun tier?

633
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: Is anything another need that they need to sort of

634
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: take it to the next step? And and do you

635
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: even consider moving Chris Paul? Let's have that conversation. Wow, well,

636
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: I mean if you're and you're right, the track record

637
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: has shown he just like can't do this. But he's

638
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: only getting old. There is not getting younger that he

639
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: can't do this for an entire season. He was probably

640
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: helped out by the hand injury this year. We talked

641
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: about that. Remember he's out for a while. Maybe actually

642
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: saved him a little bit, saved those legs for a

643
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 4: little bit. Look great in the Pelican series, look good

644
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: at the start of this one, and then disappeared. Is

645
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: that insane though? To move out that big deal, like

646
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: you said, still and try and get something in return.

647
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: And obviously you're you're focusing that on Booker and Bridges

648
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 4: and I guess Aytan in this equation, Yeah, nothing.

649
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 5: Is insane, but they have to get better internally most likely.

650
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 5: That's the question mark. It's on Aton, it's on Booker,

651
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 5: And yes, I don't think you can expect Chris Paul

652
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: to be an elite player for four rounds. But that's

653
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 5: what the chemistry here, that's that's what the recipe was

654
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 5: for the Phoenix Suns. They had to they needed him

655
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: to be amazing. So Ayton is the the number one,

656
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 5: number two, number three question. I think search may have

657
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 5: helped a little, but yeah, the starting lineup has to

658
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: get a little bit more varied in their offense. I mean,

659
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 5: just just be a little bit more dynamic. Because Jason

660
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 5: Kidd took one guy and that was the series.

661
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: So maybe we'll see Booker being triple teamed during the

662
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: pickup runs this summer and like that, like will be

663
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: the next step. Then he'll be able to handle the

664
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: double teams. He'll be pissed about triple teams, yeah, exactly.

665
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: Then he'll be able to handle the double teams in

666
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

667
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 7: Fossle Well, I definitely think that Booker and Ayton should

668
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 7: be in the gym together working on how to attack

669
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: pick and roll situations, because I mean, I think Chris

670
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 7: Paul will come back. He's still waiting for this deal,

671
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 7: and you know it's gonna be hard to find a

672
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 7: player to replace him with that you're gonna be better

673
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 7: off with.

674
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: So I assume Chris Paul will be back.

675
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 7: But going forward, like for the next five years, it's

676
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 7: definitely Booker and Aton's team over the course of things,

677
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 7: and they just have to be able to.

678
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: Perform in the playoffs.

679
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 7: Like, it's weird that Ayton turned into Rudy Gobert in

680
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 7: this series, because he did. He wasn't scoring inside and

681
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 7: he was food on the perimeter. Every time they saw him,

682
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 7: They're like, Okay, this is an easy layup for us,

683
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 7: and that did not seem like it would be the

684
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 7: case head into this matchup.

685
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: All right, let's talk a little Warriors Mavericks, gud. I

686
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: think you got the schedule. This one's get started on

687
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: what when the Eastern Conference Final start tomorrow on Tuesday night?

688
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: But first game, game one here at nine o'clock. TNT's

689
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: got the West. I think they're happy about that.

690
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Well, Shack sort of talked about it a little bit

691
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: there last night they're happy. They're not going to dry

692
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: ass Phoenix. He said to Charles.

693
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: Right right, Well, we'll tears up here, Lee, we'll do

694
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: the deep dive tomorrow when we do both of the

695
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: conference finals. We'll lock in our predictions and all that

696
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: on tomorrow's show. But yeah, what's your your first thoughts

697
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: here on Warriors Mavericks in the West.

698
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Absolute banger of a series.

699
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: It really really should be, because let's look at it like,

700
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: if you're the Warriors and you're Steve curR, You're like, okay,

701
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: so what.

702
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: Do we do here with Lucas who's back by the way,

703
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: Steve Kurr, that's right.

704
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: Do we go single coverage and just say all right,

705
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: we've got some good defenders. It's probably going to be

706
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: probably Klay Thompson gets the first job on Luca. I

707
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be Steph. I don't think it'll be

708
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins. Drayman will get some time at some point,

709
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: it won't be starting and then obviously whoever they're big

710
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: is it won't be them. So I think it's Clay

711
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: and I think Steve Kurr's first task will probably be

712
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: let's go single coverage because we know that the MAVs

713
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: want to spread the floor out and get those guys

714
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: like a Brunson and a Bollock, Finney Smith and Spencer

715
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: when he.

716
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: Comes off to me, they want to shoot threes. That's

717
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: what they want to do.

718
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: So we get to pick your poison for sure, because

719
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: it's like if we load up and lucre and dare

720
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: those guys to beat us, they might be able to

721
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: do that, because they've done that in the first couple

722
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: of series here. But alternatively, it's like one on one,

723
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: no one's really going to stop Luke or either, so

724
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: he can easily go and score and get his if

725
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: he gets hot. As we saw last night, the Mavericks

726
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: are very, very tough to defeat. So that's where I'm

727
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: first looking, and I think then defensively, it's what do

728
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: the Mavericks suit. They've been outstanding defensively so far in

729
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: the first two series here, So Steve Kerr, we know

730
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: offensively they've got so many weapons here. The Warriors, you

731
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: know obviously Steph and Clay, we know about those. Andrew Wiggins,

732
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: I think is going to be just plunked in the

733
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: corner fire away. If you get those threes and then,

734
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: of course it depends exactly how they play a Looney

735
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: or when Jordan Poole comes in, or a Kamingo whoever

736
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: that big is if they try to also exploit that

737
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: with a little bit of their athleticism, you know, Draymond's

738
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: going to be I think, facilitating a ton of that

739
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: offense at the top where he's like shoot us everywhere,

740
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: and then guys just attacking pain kid.

741
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: In the MAVs going to like say, dream on, you

742
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: do something you try Yeah.

743
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I guess they will. And this is

744
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: this is the thing, this is the chess game here.

745
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: It's like both teams I think can sort of really

746
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: match each other, well, can kind of blow each other out,

747
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: but they're both kind of If they both get.

748
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: Hot, it's going to be incredible.

749
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for this series because Luca, I mean,

750
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: remember he missed the first couple of games against the

751
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: first three games against the Utah Jazz, and it was

752
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: like he is he injured, What's he going to do?

753
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: And now he comes out down three to two in

754
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: the series and came back and did that. I don't

755
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: know who I'm going to pick. I'm glad we've got

756
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: a couple of days here, but this one.

757
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: One day, basically twenty four hours. Mak your decision.

758
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: This one is a spicy, spicy series. The Warriors should

759
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: be favorite. They're home, they are arrested. But I think

760
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: we're going to see a banger of the series.

761
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: Okay, you agree with Bangerman?

762
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: Banger Man my old friend. Yes, I'm jacked for this series.

763
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 5: Of course we.

764
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: Got a banger and a jazz wait to see a tree? Yeah,

765
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: yeahy what do you think in those taks with.

766
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: This penger and Jack's my favorite breakfast? What am I thinking?

767
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: I can't wait to watch? Yeah? The The Isolation is

768
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: definitely what the Warriors are going to do to Luca.

769
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: They're not going to double them, right, they did it

770
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: with Yeah, and they're going to try. And I think

771
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 5: they're going to use a variety of guys. I think

772
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: Williams will get plenty of turn on him. Uh And

773
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: you know, unfortunately Gary Payton the second isn't around at

774
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 5: this point. I don't think he'll be back to bother Luca.

775
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: But you know, that would be a nice little matchup

776
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 5: to watch there on the perimeter. But Luca feels comfortable

777
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: with the pressure. I think the MAVs are going to

778
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: be in a very different spot defensively than they were

779
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: facing that Sun's offense. The Warriors are going to be moving, moving, moving, moving, moving,

780
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: and there should be enough shots for those guys to

781
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: to get up. It's gonna be it's gonna be different.

782
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if we're going to get to like

783
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: a ninety threes per game. That's something crazy is gonna happen. Yep,

784
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: there's going to be lots of threes going up and

785
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: it's going to be delightful for sure.

786
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 4: What are you terming this one banger? He's jacked?

787
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: What do you got? This series is going to be

788
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: on in popping, raise the roof on and popping on popping.

789
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: How does that work?

790
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 7: I'd like, Seriously, I couldn't think about third one on

791
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 7: in pop it. I think it is because they're going

792
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 7: to be on and popping those three pointers. I think

793
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 7: this really comes down to whoever shoots threes better. That

794
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 7: seems to be the case in every game. Yeah, that

795
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 7: is the case in every game. So here's your question,

796
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 7: who's better at small ball? Because that's what this is

797
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 7: really going to come down to, Warriors small ball versus

798
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 7: MAVs small ball. I'll say the MAVs have been better

799
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 7: at generating wide open three point looks because Steph has

800
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 7: kind of struggled in the playoffs. I think he shot

801
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 7: thirty two percent from three against Memphis, which if you

802
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 7: are the Mavericks, maybe you're thinking, oh good, we can

803
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 7: keep him to thirty two percent, or you think he

804
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 7: shot thirty two percent, that means the bounce back is happening.

805
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 7: But I guess we'll see. The MAVs have a lot

806
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 7: of perimeter length actually with Reggie Bullock, Dorian Finney Smith,

807
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 7: even Frank Neila Keen I thought was pretty effective against Phoenix.

808
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 7: Just those longer guards I think could be effective against

809
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 7: especially like a Jordan Poole like who kind of struggled

810
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 7: at the end of the Grizzly series.

811
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know who's the best player in this series.

812
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: Is it Luca or is it Stuff. It's been Luca

813
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: so far in the playoffs.

814
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 7: Obviously, the Warriors have the championship pedigree and they've been

815
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 7: playing small ball, winning championships for seven seasons. At this point,

816
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 7: I kind of feel like the MAVs have a better

817
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 7: small ball unit right now because you're not getting any

818
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 7: scoring from the front court for the most part of

819
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 7: the Warriors, So I think Draymond creating for others, getting

820
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 7: wide open threes for the Warriors will be big.

821
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: But when they go small, we shall see.

822
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the MAVs are loving the fact that

823
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: they're their underdogs. Again in this series. If you saw

824
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: like kids postgame comments and the whole like nobody believes.

825
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 6: In USA, Well they don't, but it's true, and I

826
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 6: believe in that last series our favorites here we got

827
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 6: the home court advantage, and I think, actually that's I

828
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: would be.

829
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: I wouldn't like it if the Mavericks were favored, you know.

830
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: It's like I think they're they're relishing the fact that

831
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: they are the underdogs. They can play loose, especially the

832
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: way they play with all the three pointers going up,

833
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: and you've got Luca, you're confident that he's going to

834
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 4: dictate the game. So, yes, this is going to be

835
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: a very just straight up exciting series.

836
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: Keep it very that.

837
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: I hope it does live up to it.

838
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, well did the last Like, did Sun's MAVs live.

839
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: Up to it?

840
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: It was a weird series because there was no those games. Well,

841
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: remember that then we had some like pretty epic performances

842
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 4: from Luca am Booker did have some new games.

843
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: Remember the Friday before last we were like this, this

844
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: series might be over by the time we came in

845
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: last month, Yes, and instead we're like, wow, we just

846
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: had an incredible game seven.

847
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I guess it did in the end, but

848
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: it didn't really are at the same time.

849
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: No close games sucks.

850
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: That's the tough point.

851
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: But again we will talk X factors, other things to

852
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: watch and make our predictions on tomorrow show. But you

853
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 4: guys can get started now in the stream. Team where

854
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: were you leaning?

855
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Honestly, probably living in the moment a little Dallas, I

856
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: think I'm with you. Yeah. Wow.

857
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: Then the question is are you going Mavericks right now?

858
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: Are you thinking Mavericks and six because they're doing it

859
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 4: at home, or are you think of Mavericks and seven? Yeah?

860
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Man, after seeing Luca, I don't think it really matters

861
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: now if it does, go back to go San Francisco

862
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: now for seven.

863
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: But I always think that.

864
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: If you are if you can steal that game to

865
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: get home court, to have a chance to close that

866
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: at home, it is your best bet. But yeah, man, Luca,

867
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I think I'm leaning maps. I think I'm leaning maps

868
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: right now.

869
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll make our official predictions tomorrow. Let's take our

870
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: first break. When we come back, we'll talk about Grant Williams.

871
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: He's the new staff Curry. Yeah, we'll talk about Grant

872
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: Williams catching fire in game seven, look ahead to heat Celtics,

873
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: and talk a little bit about the Bucks off season.

874
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere. Sort of ironic though when you think

875
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: about it, because you want to go to a game,

876
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: you get your seat through sekiek, But then you want

877
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: a game so entertaining that you're never sitting down.

878
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: That is pretty crazy. If you're sitting you're almost like disappointed.

879
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy.

880
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: Good Reds and the butt get some air and it's

881
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 5: really excited.

882
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you gotta air it out.

883
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: This is amazing. Standing.

884
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: Let's get to talking about Grant Williams playing hero for

885
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics. Speaking of butts, Yeah, that's right, drained

886
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: seven threes in the game seven win on Sunday tests?

887
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: Is he the story from this one?

888
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 3: Wow?

889
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 5: It left Watching Grant Williams, all I could think of

890
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 5: was Big Baby Davis's comments recently saying, I look at

891
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 5: Grant Williams and I say, that could have been me.

892
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 5: If I had it all together, that could have been me. No,

893
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: that's not what I was thinking. I was thinking. Yeah,

894
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: I said to Combo. Played it a ridiculously good series.

895
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 5: Through six games, he was averaging thirty five points. He

896
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: was trying to put the team on his back like

897
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: he did in the NBA Finals, and it looked good

898
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: to start this game. First quarter he nearly had a

899
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: triple double. He was ten, eight and six in the

900
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: first quarter, but things slowed down. Game seven, he had

901
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: only twenty five. He missed some bunnies, and as he

902
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: said after the game, quote legs heavy, body, heavy, mind heavy,

903
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: everything was heavy. He just couldn't do it for seven games.

904
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: He really had to carry this team without Chris Middleton.

905
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: They needed him to have a monster series like he

906
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: did in the finals and averaging thirty five going into

907
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: that game, he was he was amazing. He had three

908
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 5: forty point games. You know last year in the Finals

909
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: he had that fifty point game. He just couldn't get

910
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 5: to that level, which is asking a hell of a lot.

911
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: He shot twenty five shots in all seven games of

912
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 5: the series. So he was trying to do that. First

913
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 5: player to do that in over twenty years. Alan Iverson

914
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 5: the last player to do that. Two hundred points, hundred boards,

915
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 5: fifty assists in a series, for the first time ever

916
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: in NBA history that a player got those numbers, and

917
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 5: he's still leading the league in scoring playoff scoring at

918
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: thirty one point seven. As he sits down, and he

919
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 5: sat as soon as he was pulled two minutes left

920
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 5: in this game, hit that bench, head back, eyes closed,

921
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 5: soaking it all in. He was done. He just couldn't

922
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: do what his team needed to because they couldn't support

923
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: him without Chris Middleton. They needed Middleton on both sides really,

924
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: and the guys you know, trying to fill in for

925
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: him couldn't do enough. Bobby portershot twenty two percent for

926
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 5: the series. Chris Allen had a good game one and

927
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 5: then after that kind of disappeared to have eighteen for

928
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: deep in the final six games, while the Celtics got stronger, deeper, stronger, bigger,

929
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: bigger Butts Grant Williams Grant Willams alone took eighteen threes

930
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: in this game, an NBA record for most threes in

931
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: a game seven and he tied the game seven, makes

932
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 5: record with seven. And that's why they were calling him

933
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 5: Grant Curry after this game because he's from Charlotte, I guess,

934
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 5: and you know that's where Steph is from as well,

935
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 5: So Grant Curry. Sure. The Celtics made fifty three more

936
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: threes than the Bucks in their seven game Conference final

937
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 5: series here. That was the biggest differential in a playoff

938
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 5: series in NBA history. That's a big number, threege number.

939
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: But I mean they're right there, The Bucks were.

940
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: Right there, just couldn't overcome it, and unfortunately got a bad,

941
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 5: bad game seven because I just had to be a

942
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 5: monster again, especially with the guys not coming through beside him.

943
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: Game plan was to leave Grant Williams open, and he

944
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: knocked out his first one, and then he was feeling

945
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: it all game long. And I mean actually there was

946
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: even a couple early on He's like he should I

947
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 4: take this again?

948
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

949
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: And then and then he didn't, and then I think,

950
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: uh Udoka. And then obviously my all accounts, everybody's like

951
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 4: you gotta shoot this man.

952
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Literally every you don't shoot it, We're gonna we're gonna

953
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: head you. Yeah, We're gonna punch you.

954
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: In the face.

955
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a good quote, a good quote from

956
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 5: him saying like when you got fifteen guys plus your

957
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: coach saying to you, hey, shoot that next one, shoot that.

958
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: It's hard to get in your head and stop shooting. Big, big, big,

959
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: big performance by the fourteenth guy in the bench, the

960
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 5: fifteenth guy in the bench. Everybody chatting to him, and

961
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 5: I helped well.

962
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: And Grant Williams gotten found trople early because he was defending.

963
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: He had a big role in this thing. But he

964
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: did sort of overcome that and then just came back

965
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: back and fired away. But the discrepancy in the three

966
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: point shooting is is pretty huge. I mean, the Celtics

967
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: for the series average fifteen a game, the Bucks on

968
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: the eight, so you're basically giving up double the amount

969
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: of three pointers in every single game. But even still,

970
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: even Yannis yesterday, it looked like he was going to

971
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: just fill in a huge box score here. But he

972
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: did seem to just the weight of everything. I think

973
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: sort of caught up with him a bit where he

974
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: knew every trip down the court he was seeing either

975
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: Horford or Williams or Brown or Tatum or a combination

976
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: of those guys, and he needed someone to be basically

977
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: like a spencer, didn't we like someone sort of just

978
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: released these the pressure on me to have to do everything,

979
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: and they just didn't get that from anybody there. Drew

980
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Holiday struggled in this game. He's been good for the

981
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: most the part of this series, but.

982
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: You could really tell.

983
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: I think Brook Lopez was probably their second best player yesterday.

984
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen them go a

985
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: little bit more inside. Both Brooke and Yarnis were able

986
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: to sort of get those little pushy, floaty shots off.

987
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: But again, when you're scoring two's and the other two

988
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: fells like it just they were just hitting a three

989
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: every single time, especially at the start of that third

990
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: quarter there where the game really got away from them,

991
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: and that was it. The Bucks just you just were like,

992
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: how are they going to be able to score enough

993
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: here to keep up? And Jason Tatum, I mean he

994
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: only had twenty three points eight a sist yester. I

995
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: thought he was markable again for this series, see.

996
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: And especially game six. Game six, they want to win

997
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: the series, yeah.

998
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: Because of him?

999
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: And in that what third and fourth quarter where is

1000
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: hitting those long jumpers and it was like, man, he

1001
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: is on one here today, So congrats to the Celtics.

1002
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: They had to fight and scrap for it.

1003
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: If Middleton plays through the Bucks win maybe probably they

1004
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't have him though, and they still put up a

1005
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: pretty good fight. But look, they led the series one nil.

1006
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: They led this series three too, and they also lose

1007
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: in seven, although big difference, of course, they lose on

1008
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: the road in game seven.

1009
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: I mean you talked about just Leanna sort of having

1010
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: to do everything for the entire series, where the Celtics

1011
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: all of their wins had somebody else be in the

1012
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: hero Jaeleen Brown in game two, Al Horford in Game four,

1013
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum in game six, just special special stuff there,

1014
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 4: and then Grant Williams in Game seven being left open

1015
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: and knocking them down making them pay seven to eighteen

1016
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 4: from deep.

1017
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, the series was really one in that game six

1018
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 7: because the Bucks got a Yannis game You're forty four

1019
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 7: and twenty from Yannis, and then for the Celtics to

1020
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 7: actually pull out the win with Tatum going to one

1021
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 7: level above Yannis. I mean that was the series right there,

1022
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 7: because anything can happen in a game seven, and as

1023
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 7: we saw, one team made four or threes, the other

1024
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 7: team made twenty two threes. Sometimes it just comes down

1025
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 7: to three point shoot in You know what I'm saying,

1026
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 7: whoever makes the most threes is gonna win, and that's

1027
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 7: what it was in this one. The Bucks were happy

1028
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 7: to play their defense that we've seen them play for

1029
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 7: a bunch of seasons that has gotten them embarrassed in

1030
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 7: the twenty nineteen season the twenty twenty season. The shot

1031
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 7: is gonna be there, are you gonna take it? Grant

1032
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 7: Williams was willing to take it, and the Bucks even

1033
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 7: in the postgame press conference, as we're basically saying, hey,

1034
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 7: this was the defense we decided to play. We said,

1035
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 7: if you beat us, Grant Williams, you beat us, and

1036
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 7: he completely did so. Kudos to the Celtics being able

1037
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 7: to pull off the win from the Grant Williams game

1038
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 7: and from the Al Horford game, Like, when your role

1039
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 7: players show up like that, you got to get the win,

1040
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 7: and they did it in both of those circumstances. So

1041
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 7: this was incredible stuff from the Celtics. This has been

1042
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 7: the best series we've seen so far. It's a bummer

1043
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 7: we didn't get to see Milwaukee at completely full strength,

1044
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 7: but even not at full strength.

1045
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: They played him as if they were.

1046
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean they put up a hell of

1047
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: a fight a defending champs withot Chris Midlton. Do you

1048
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: think they win the series? But Middleton plays because like

1049
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: what he can help defensively on the wing, and then

1050
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: you know he probably in the series if he hypothetically plays,

1051
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: they probably is a Chris Middleton game, of course. So

1052
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: I mean that obviously helps their chances. I sort of

1053
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: think that way. Yeah, it's hard to take anything away

1054
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: from the Celtics, who, I mean had to get with

1055
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 4: their all and still beat them.

1056
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard not to think Middleton would have been

1057
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: a big factor. Having watched you know so much of

1058
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: these Milwaukee Bucks over the last few years. He comes through,

1059
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: you know, four a game or two or three. I mean,

1060
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 5: he is he is their best perimeter score when they

1061
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 5: obviously lack perimeter scoring. Beside yansaid Koompa, who was going

1062
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: to the hoop and who was doing everything he could.

1063
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 5: And I think the big reason why people are picking

1064
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: the Boston Celtics right now as the as the team

1065
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: that's going to beat the Miami Heat and could win

1066
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: the championship is their resiliency to overcome that Game five

1067
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: loss where they were up fourteen points in the fourth quarter.

1068
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: They gave that thing away that ran into each other.

1069
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart, you know, did what he did at the

1070
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 5: end of that game. They also overcame that Game three

1071
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: loss where they had that Marcus Smart you know free

1072
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: throw and the tip tip tip tip tip. They overcame

1073
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 5: a couple of times. So there are resilient bund shots

1074
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 5: obviously obviously been playing their best ball in the NBA

1075
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 5: the last few months. So that's why this Celtics Heats series,

1076
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: you know, could could you know, mirror a lot of

1077
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 5: people's picks in the Western Conference where people are picking

1078
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 5: the quote unquote underdog slash road team even though the

1079
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: Celtics are the favorite as the road team here.

1080
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: Okay, well we'll get to that in a second heat

1081
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: Celtics and our initial thoughts on that. But uh, with

1082
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Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks, what do you think the biggest question is

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00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: surrounding them heading into the offseason when they got to

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00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: shore up here.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were a very good three point shooting team

1086
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: during the regular season, but not so much during the postseason. Now,

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00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: of course Middleton is a is a factor of that,

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00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: but I think as well. You notice that like guys

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Speaker 1: like Connorton, you know, Grays and Allen, they really can't

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Speaker 1: step it up and fill in the gap. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's where I think that's where John Horst is

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00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: mainly going to start looking around, because Middleton, Jannis, Drew

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00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: and brook were all under contract next season, and Brooks

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00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: thirty four. He missed obviously most of this season, but

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Speaker 1: he looked pretty good when he did play. I thought

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Speaker 1: for the most part in the playoffs here he's moving

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00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: well enough. And that's why I think you've still got

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00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: a core that's been together. They're a pretty tough, resilient group.

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00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: If they have their stars, maybe they're still in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: maybe not, who knows. So I think it's really more

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00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: just around the edges. Wes Matthews was fine, but I

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00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: think you want to probably improve in that area as well,

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00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: so a little bit more depth and maybe that sort

1104
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: of other guy who you know can hit the threes.

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00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think they need major changes.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think but will be back. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: see why they wouldn't bring him back. And again, Yannis

1109
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: is twenty seven. He was incredible this season you're getting

1110
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: fifty five wins just from Yannis and nobody else on

1111
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: the roster anyway. So I think the Bucks overall don't

1112
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: want to look at this as as a disaster or

1113
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: a letdown. They just say, yeah, I know what, injuries,

1114
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Maybe all those other playoff runs caught up with us

1115
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. We need to improve the role player

1116
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: guys a little bit more depth, I think is that.

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00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: And they've got some flexibility here. Obviously the big guys

1118
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: are all locked up anyway. They can make a few

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: little moves.

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Speaker 4: But an injury to Middleton is a perfect example of

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00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 4: why through in a regular season you need to focus

1122
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: a little bit on holding up guys on your bench

1123
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Speaker 4: and getting them some confidence because something like that happens

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00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: and then you need somebody to step up, and a

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00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: lot of those guys they couldn't over the course of

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00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 4: a series, that's for sure. Conaton, I mean he was

1127
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: fine at times. Grayson Allen was garbage. Yeah, a little shock.

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Speaker 4: Budenholzer continued to go with him as this series went on.

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Speaker 4: He maybe was just praying, like one of these games,

1130
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: he's got to hit some threes, and he never really did,

1131
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 4: and he was getting exposed on the other end, Leslie Matthews.

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Speaker 4: I think age caught up to him a little bit

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00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: as the series went on.

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Speaker 5: To poor Wesley, Yeah, well who is he gonna go to?

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00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: Though?

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00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 5: Maybe just to have a Javon Carter game. They just

1137
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 5: they gave up a lot for Drew Holliday. And yeah,

1138
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 5: they're they're top heavy bunch that won a championship. They

1139
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: did it, but yeah, Pat Conton was their third best

1140
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 5: player in this series. Bobby Porters had such a great

1141
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 5: first round and then came back to earth here in

1142
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: the second round. Celtics were just really really good at

1143
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: taking those guys away though they were they were very

1144
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 5: good if they got open shots. We saw the Grayson

1145
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 5: Allen game against the Bulls and that changed big time

1146
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 5: in this series. Poor Wesley Matthews. It's a real Anderson

1147
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 5: verjaw situation played forever with the Cavs. Couldn't get a

1148
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: title with them. Wesley Matthews. You know, he was there

1149
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 5: with the Bucks, then he left, they won a title

1150
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 5: and he came back and they just couldn't get it done.

1151
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 5: Here feel for him, but yeah, they they're a top

1152
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 5: heavy bunch. But yeah, if he's if you know, it's

1153
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 5: not fun to resort to this analysis, but Chris Middleton's there.

1154
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 5: This is another championship level team, and yeahnis I think

1155
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 5: was he just showed that he is a number one guy.

1156
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 5: Whether he's the best player in the game or whatever.

1157
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: You just need guys that can support him a little bit.

1158
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: They were so fricking close. But uh yeah, holiday he did.

1159
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 5: He was he was put up his shots. We did

1160
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 5: everything you could ask for them from him, other than

1161
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 5: you know, being a little bit more efficient. Yeah, he

1162
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 5: was trying out there. He averaged twenty in this series.

1163
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Speaker 4: He's trying to fill the Middleton void. And yeah, he

1164
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: did it for some moments in the series and other

1165
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: times definitely did not.

1166
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: And then the drop off from there. You know, Pat

1167
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 5: Conton and Bobby Porter Savage ten points in this series.

1168
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: They just needed more. Brooke was probably the guy, you know,

1169
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 5: maybe if he had some more push shots in there,

1170
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 5: but he couldn't hit a three, surprisingly hit one three

1171
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: in this series, and that that really is the difference

1172
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 5: to me. That guy should be able to you know,

1173
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 5: light on fire from inside and outside. But maybe age

1174
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 5: is getting to him too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's thirty four years old. They'll be going into

1176
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 7: the last year of his deal next year. But he's

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Speaker 7: been like a key piece for the Bucks, so I

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Speaker 7: assume he will at least be back. I don't know, though,

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Speaker 7: It's like, you can't have it all. They've got three

1180
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 7: all star players that they pay a ton of money to.

1181
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 7: One of them got hurt, so you're not gonna have

1182
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 7: the depth there, like tass Is saying it's gonna be

1183
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 7: Grason Allen, Jevon.

1184
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: Carter or George Hill.

1185
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 7: Like what are you supposed to do in that scenario,

1186
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 7: especially considering like during the year, Connaton and Allen shot

1187
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 7: like forty percent from three.

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00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: They were just brutal against against the Celtics.

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Speaker 7: Here the one big piece to me that was missing

1190
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 7: for Milwaukee this year, outside of Lopez being hurt. For

1191
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 7: the majority of the years, they never had a PJ.

1192
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 7: Tucker replacement. You talked about that a ton. He was

1193
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 7: huge against Kevin Durant in the playoffs last se and

1194
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 7: they just didn't have that big sort of defensive switchy

1195
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 7: wing slash, smaller big guy.

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Speaker 2: They tried to.

1197
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Speaker 7: They tried to get a Baka, they traded for him

1198
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Speaker 7: during the trade deadline. He obviously wasn't in the rotation

1199
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Speaker 7: at all in the playoffs, and then it had like

1200
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 7: the knock on effect of now Dante di Vincenzo has gone,

1201
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 7: who could have been another sort of potential option for

1202
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 7: Budenholzer out there on the wing.

1203
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1204
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 7: I mean, stars win in this league, no doubt about it.

1205
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 7: We just saw it with the Suns. Their two stars

1206
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 7: didn't show up, so they didn't win their Game seven.

1207
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Speaker 7: One of the stars for the Bucks was not available.

1208
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 7: If he's available, it's maybe a different series. This basically

1209
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 7: same team is going to run back next year. I

1210
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Speaker 7: actually think Wesley Matthews was a solid signing this year,

1211
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 7: Like he played well. The Lakers would have loved to

1212
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 7: have him back. But is he going to be as

1213
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 7: good next year? Is Bobby Portis gonna sign his player

1214
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 7: option or is there another team that would be interested

1215
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 7: in Bobby Portis seems like a guy that would be

1216
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 7: desirable to a lot of teams.

1217
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: Same with Conaton.

1218
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 7: He's got a player option, but other teams could perhaps

1219
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 7: be interested in him as well. So there's not a

1220
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 7: ton of moves for the Bucks to make. They need pieces,

1221
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 7: they need some upgrades for sure, but they've got their core.

1222
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 7: They just have to hope they're healthy next year.

1223
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: Relatively quick turnaround here for the Celtics as they prepare

1224
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: to face the Heat in the Conference finals second time

1225
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 4: in the last three seasons. Game one JD got tips

1226
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, eight thirty pm Eastern from South Beach there,

1227
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: following the draft lottery. You know that's tomorrow.

1228
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: I sure going around yesterday and.

1229
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, caught me by surprise.

1230
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let's find out whe those ping pong bows

1231
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 4: are gonna drops. That's prior to the Game one of

1232
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference Finals tomorrow. Again, we'll do our deep

1233
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 4: dive and we'll make the official predictions on tomorrow's pod.

1234
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: But Trey first thoughts on Miami Boston here again, these

1235
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: two teams going at it once again.

1236
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Speaker 7: My first thoughts is that this is a huge step

1237
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 7: up in competition for Miami. They had the Hawks in

1238
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 7: Round one, that was pretty easy. They had the Sixers

1239
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 7: in disarray without Embiid. Then he comes back. They were

1240
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 7: good for two games and then he was hobbled and

1241
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 7: pretty easy once again for Miami. The Celtics back to

1242
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: back high quality as we thought maybe their first round

1243
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 7: series against the Nets would be a pseudo NBA Final,

1244
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 7: Sure not the case. Mop the floor with them, and

1245
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 7: then we had a Classic against Milwaukee, So I think

1246
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 7: that Boston is at least better prepared coming into this

1247
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 7: series having played some high level playoff basketball so far.

1248
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 7: They've also got a little history from the Bubble. When

1249
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 7: the Heat beat the Celtics four to two, that was

1250
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 7: like Jimmy Butler's kind of putting his name on the map.

1251
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 7: And that's the main thing I'm excited about Jimmy Butler

1252
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 7: versus Jason Tatum. They both got a lot of defensive options.

1253
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 7: They're both going to switch a ton, but it does

1254
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 7: feel like one of those series where the best guy

1255
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 7: on one team will be going head to head with

1256
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 7: the best guy on the other team for a big chunk,

1257
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 7: And that's going to be really exciting because these two

1258
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 7: guys have been some great.

1259
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Guys so far.

1260
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 7: We probably haven't talked enough about how good Jimmy Butler's

1261
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 7: been twenty eight points per game, seven rebounds, five assists,

1262
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 7: fifty two from the field, thirty six from three two

1263
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 7: steals as well, he's been on the All Tournament team.

1264
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, Tatum, right there with him

1265
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 7: twenty eight a game, five rebounds, six assists, forty four

1266
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 7: from the field, thirty nine from three, a steal, a block,

1267
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 7: doing it on both ends as well. That Game six

1268
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 7: duel with Giannis was like just another step in his

1269
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 7: superstar progression. So this is exciting to me. I mean,

1270
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 7: we got to worry about Kyle Lowry's status. I guess

1271
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 7: that's the one injury thing kind of hanging over this

1272
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 7: series at all. Robert Williams was able to come back

1273
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 7: for Game seven, but this should be a banger. I

1274
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 7: assume the Celtics are going to be most people's picks,

1275
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 7: which is exactly how the Heat.

1276
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: Would want it.

1277
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 7: Nobody's paying any attention to Miami right now. They're just

1278
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 7: happy to grind it out and get some dubs.

1279
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 4: Yes, Celtics are favorites in this series, according to Vegas,

1280
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: despite gonna be starting Game one on the road.

1281
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: Roster versus wrist. If the Heat win, see better to

1282
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: be rested the Celtics win. Just gotta keep on playing Heat.

1283
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: We're rusty.

1284
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: No, this is true.

1285
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: All so it'd be a great series.

1286
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: And I wondered Robert Williams was technically available yesterday, but

1287
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: he didn't play, So I wonder if the Celtics looked

1288
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: at that and thought, let's try to squeeze an extra

1289
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: day of resting here, because he's gonna have potentially a

1290
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: very big series if he's going up against Bam. Inside there,

1291
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: this is where I mean, look Hawford and PJ. Tucker

1292
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: and Bam.

1293
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: It's going to be a physical dog fight down there.

1294
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: There's going to be a log.

1295
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 4: The Celtics just went through the Bucks point. I mean

1296
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 4: it's like the Heat really weren't having to do that

1297
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 4: as much in these two series. They've got a lot

1298
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: of stress yet.

1299
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: No, but I think that Heat will also like that

1300
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: as well. They like a fight.

1301
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: They liked it sure, very very physical like that. Jimmy

1302
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: versus Jason obviously can't wait for that. Tatum has been

1303
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: incredible and he's younger, so he's got that age on

1304
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: his side, whereas Jimmy.

1305
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: You know, a little bit older here.

1306
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: So if he has to work on the defensive end,

1307
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: which I expect they're going to make him do, he's

1308
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna want that. But also, at the same time, a

1309
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: longer series I think favors Boston in that sense. I

1310
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: think the younger leagues there, we haven't really seen great

1311
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: three point shooting on the road, certainly from the Miami

1312
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: Heat so far in Philadelphia.

1313
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: In Philadelphia, but it only hit seven, So that again,

1314
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: that's that's that's.

1315
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Where I think it's really important for the Celtics to

1316
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: steer one of these first two games and get back

1317
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: to Boston and start raining those threes like we just

1318
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: saw against the Milwaukee Bucks. So I think things are

1319
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: favored in Boston's way right now. But again, my em

1320
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: it'd be crazy to dismissal rot off Miami because yeah,

1321
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: they've got that sign mentality. No one believes in the

1322
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: number one seed at him.

1323
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: What do you think? What are you watching for?

1324
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see Jimmy against this Celtics defense.

1325
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 5: The Celtics are just so fri against solid. I think

1326
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 5: anybody in that starting lineup can guard Jimmy Butler fairly well.

1327
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 5: I think it helps. You know, they overcame Yastad Coobo,

1328
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 5: they overcame Kevin Durant in the first series. Now, Jimmy

1329
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 5: is a little bit of a smaller player. I think

1330
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 5: you know, Jaylen Brown can guard him. Well, he couldn't

1331
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: have guard Giannis now you've got Tatum, Al Horford, even

1332
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: Robert Williams can take a turn to Marcus Smart as

1333
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 5: their tiny guy. That Butler is bigger than but that's

1334
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 5: that's gonna be very tough for Jimmy in that bubble

1335
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 5: where you know, the Celtics feel like they're a little

1336
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 5: bit they're a little bit young, a little bit green.

1337
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 5: Back then, Jason Tatum, you know, said it was his

1338
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: third year. He you know, the Heat just overwhelmed the

1339
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 5: Celtics in that series. Bam Adebayo was their leading score

1340
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 5: in that series. So Robert Williams is going to be

1341
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 5: pretty key here. He destroyed Daniel Tyson that series. And

1342
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 5: I think Robert Williams is going to ye if he

1343
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 5: can be out there, try and limit Bam because I

1344
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 5: think Butler is amazing as he's been. The Celtics are

1345
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: just they're real freakin deep right now. You think, well,

1346
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 5: the Heat are this team that comes at you with

1347
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 5: every single guy. But the Celtics are just playing better

1348
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: one through eight. The Heat, you know, some tiny holes here.

1349
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: Even if Lowery comes back, he's not one hundred percent.

1350
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 5: So I think the Celtics can pick on Max Strus

1351
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 5: and Gabe Vincent, Yeah, and or Lowry even though he's

1352
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: a great defender if he's unhealthy. So there's the I

1353
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 5: think there's a couple of holes there for the Heat

1354
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 5: while the Celtics are just rack solid at this point.

1355
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, very excited for this one again. Starts on Tuesday night.

1356
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 4: Let's hear predictions from you guys in the stream team

1357
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: right now. We'll lock ours in tomorrow when we do

1358
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: the deep dives on both of these series. I'm just

1359
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 4: excited to see like we just saw in the last

1360
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: series between the Bucks and Celtics, like who are the

1361
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: random guys that's gonna like step up? And is there

1362
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: an other Max Struce game in the mix here for Miami?

1363
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 4: Is can Grant do that again? You know, Peyton Pritcher

1364
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: or whatever, Like it's gonna be like there, we both

1365
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: know these teams are gonna play like elite defense and

1366
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 4: nothing's gonna be easy. Again, very similar I think to

1367
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: the to the Buck Celtics series in that sense, But

1368
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: then that means, you know, somebody's got to step up

1369
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: and have like sort of those out of body experiences,

1370
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: and I think there's so many guys on both squads

1371
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: that very easily could step into that role, so it

1372
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 4: should be a for a fun one and these are

1373
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: both like the Celtics have been the best team for

1374
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: months record wise, very similar. Fifty three wins from Miami,

1375
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: fifty one from Boston. They do have home court, which

1376
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: is huge. We forgot to mention that part came up

1377
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: the old the idea that Game seven was in Boston.

1378
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: Milwaukee could have had that, yes, and that was address

1379
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: there by the Celtics after the game. You know, weren't

1380
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: duck in anybody taking care of the nets and having

1381
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: home court advantage which is huge, but they don't have

1382
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: it here. Can't wait, We'll talk about it tomorrow. Any

1383
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: other final thoughts, So to tea us up, is this

1384
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: one going to be easier for you to decide then

1385
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: the last one the Western Conference?

1386
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: Or probably? Yeah? Probably? Yeah, not having not to sleep

1387
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: on this one, but yeah, you.

1388
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: Tipping your hand though you're a Bean town boy, I'm

1389
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: definitely leaning Bean tennis.

1390
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

1391
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm seeing in the Athletic Slack channel there was

1392
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 5: a request for all the writers' picks for NBA champ.

1393
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 5: Celtics are coming in hot right, Wow, They're quite a

1394
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 5: popular the writers.

1395
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you the final question was

1396
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: can any of these four teams left win the title

1397
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: really quickly? Does it feel like this is the most

1398
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 4: open it's been on a long time, which is the

1399
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: conference finals?

1400
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1401
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you think so? Absolutely do Yeah yeah, So.

1402
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 4: Take me through the recent Warriors experience. Obviously with their

1403
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: three guys, I got one more run in them.

1404
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: Here.

1405
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: You got Luca on the MAVs and the way they play.

1406
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: Let just bomb away here, I'll do it for you.

1407
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1408
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: The Miami Heat, My god, Jimmy, this is the final

1409
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: thing he's gotta do. We know he's a sixteen game player.

1410
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: They've got some experience already, been to the finals before,

1411
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 4: play the Celtics well, and then Boston me it just

1412
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: played more likey Buck and just took down the defending

1413
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: champce What does that do for your finals?

1414
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 5: Right there?

1415
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: So there you go, Yeah, thank you. I agree with

1416
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 3: all of that.

1417
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: The thing is, you know, like I say, with Dallas,

1418
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: there's something probably of those of the team's remaining still

1419
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: a little unbelievable because I like I think they don't

1420
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: they have a huge gap in the middle. They don't

1421
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: have even real any sort of interior presence at all.

1422
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: But they just embarrassed the Suns. They embarrassed the Utah Jazz.

1423
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: And Luca to me is like he he is so

1424
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: born for this moment. He'd been building to this moment

1425
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: so he would not be afraid of Anyone of the

1426
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: best games of the season was Dallas in Boston where Luca.

1427
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: Luca won that game for them late when Boston was

1428
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: on that huge hot streak. I'm pretty sure that he

1429
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: ended that streak in Boston with one of his great performances.

1430
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: And didn't he in fact hit the game winner in

1431
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: that one. I'm just sort of.

1432
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1433
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's why, I mean, like Luca, there's no

1434
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: one out there who I think, wow, that guy. This

1435
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: team can shut Luca down. So you know, I mean again,

1436
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: we just saw one of the most incredible performances. It's freshest. Yeah,

1437
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, I can I can see.

1438
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 4: But it's where we're I mean, what you're getting guys,

1439
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 4: We're at the point with Luca is he like young

1440
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: Lebron level? What the hell wants to bet against that?

1441
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1442
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: You know, of course MJ level where you're suddenly just

1443
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: like and they would lose series that could happen here.

1444
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: But it's like, God, you don't want to bet against

1445
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 4: the guy right now because he like just loves these

1446
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: big games.

1447
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, of the four teams, it seems like the mask

1448
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: at you know, there's something magical about it. And I

1449
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 5: hate every Luca nickname out there. Generally I think Luca

1450
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 5: is good enough, but Luca Magic, that's a nickname.

1451
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: The Donk.

1452
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, know what you got rid of the Donk,

1453
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: it'll be back.

1454
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 5: The Matador, El Matador, cool Hand, the don wonder Boy,

1455
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 5: El Nino Madavilla, al Nino Madavilla.

1456
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: Okay, what is it? The beautiful kid, the beautiful kid?

1457
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 5: All right? Swaggy l that makes me chuckle. Yeah, Luca

1458
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 5: legend to easy what and Luca? Imagine how many nicknames

1459
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 5: is this guy? There's no good one zero.

1460
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: Lucas good.

1461
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: It's a great name, it's a great first name.

1462
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 7: This does seem to be this series. I would say

1463
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 7: perfect one to swerve. Everybody's gonna be on the Celtics.

1464
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 7: Everybody's got to be picking the Celtics. You'll see like

1465
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 7: a graphic this guy Celtic Celtics, Celtic Celtics. If you

1466
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 7: want to be smart, pick the heatcause if they pull

1467
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 7: it off, there won't be that many people picking the

1468
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 7: Heat taking your hand.

1469
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 5: Tomorrow.

1470
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'm all about three pointers?

1471
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah you are.

1472
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 7: And I gotta say the Celtics are better at getting

1473
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 7: three pointers than the than the Heat are. But but

1474
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that that's a I think that it

1475
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 7: feels like the Heat are ranked number four right now

1476
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 7: of the teams that are left in the conference finals, which.

1477
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: Is why to me, this would be a worthy swervy.

1478
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell you what swervy worthy by Kirby there.

1479
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 3: If it's Warriors Heat, that'll be a tough old travel series.

1480
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 4: Thinking about the level and feel for them.

1481
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, friend to Miami and back.

1482
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 4: Wow, you know, Boston to the base so much easier,

1483
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: well a little bit a little all right, let's take

1484
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: our final break when we come back. We got tweeted

1485
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: the night and we'll wrap up this bad boy. Let's

1486
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: get to tweeted the night.

1487
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 5: Tweet out the night. Woww Yeah, we can make this

1488
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 5: one quick.

1489
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: It's from Tim at dug in the d M on Twitter.

1490
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 6: Uh.

1491
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 4: He added us at no dunk sink from now on.

1492
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 4: The Lucas Special is when a player has the same

1493
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 4: amount of points as an entire team by halftime.

1494
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: Tim, I love it.

1495
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 4: I think it's great.

1496
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 5: Tim.

1497
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, this game Lucas Special that you know

1498
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 4: Team just X dropped on Team Y here because you

1499
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 4: know somebody brought it up here earlier in the show.

1500
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: After Game five, Booker takes the hit. He's lying on

1501
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: the ground for a while. Somebody's recording him right there

1502
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: sitting base line, and you know they're saying They even

1503
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: say something like Booker, get up, or you okay or

1504
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 4: something along those lines, and then he gives a little

1505
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: sly lookover and then calls it the Lucas Special. You know,

1506
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: I guess the idea that he's selling a little dramatic

1507
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Speaker 4: lying on the ground a little longer than he probably

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Speaker 4: needed to. And whoops, ever since Booker said that, uh,

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Speaker 4: Luca just kicked his ass. But anyway, I like this tweet.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about the Lucas Special? Like he

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Speaker 4: did in Game seven? Had the same amount of points

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Speaker 4: as the team he's taking on.

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Speaker 5: Why not? It's good name it after him because it's

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Speaker 5: just so rare. Yes that we'll remember. I think we'll

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Speaker 5: remember this moment a lot of time. These stats kind

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01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 5: of fly out and we don't remember it, but yes,

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Speaker 5: so unique for a team to be outscored by one

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Speaker 5: guy at half. Yeah, well remember it?

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Speaker 4: Are we going to count it or call it a

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Speaker 4: Lucas Special in a regular season game?

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Speaker 2: Ah? Sure?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, it's pretty right, right, so happened all that often? Right,

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Speaker 7: There's got to be a way to be able to

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Speaker 7: pull this out too. I'm sure somebody with the excel

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Speaker 7: skills we'll be able to figure out the spreadsheets on

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Speaker 7: this one. But I mean, like what, I don't know,

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Speaker 7: twice a season, maybe it happens. I think that's probably

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Speaker 7: even harder.

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Speaker 4: Once a season.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this was our one time. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Lucas special. I can catch on who had.

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Speaker 3: The most points in the game this season?

1533
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Speaker 2: We have a sixty Tatum.

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah them went for a lot.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Luca was asked about that after the game,

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Speaker 1: and he hesitated for just a second, and they said,

1537
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: did you know you had the same amount of points

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Speaker 1: and suns?

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Speaker 4: And he's like, yes, of course, And then a lot

1540
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Speaker 4: of people are saying this whole you know, making fun

1541
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: of him. Is whatever book are saying? Of course, caught

1542
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 4: on camera the Lucas special that it's now on the

1543
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: list of like, I guess taunts going wrong all time

1544
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: up there with Lebron and Wade doing the whole coughing thing.

1545
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeaes s Dirk back in the eleven finals. There's another

1546
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: one that was coming. I forget now, but this one

1547
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: probably on that short list of like whoops, you poked

1548
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: the bear on that one and it blew up in

1549
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: your face. If you believe in such things.

1550
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 7: Well, I saw they also. I saw that Chris Paul

1551
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 7: and Devin Booker also showed up wearing all black. Six

1552
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 7: tough look to lose the funeral game and then lose

1553
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 7: a game seven by thirty three on your home court.

1554
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 7: Highest scoring games this season, Kyrie Irving and Karl Anthony

1555
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 7: Towns both went for sixty. I don't think they had

1556
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 7: as many as their opponents at halftime.

1557
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah, that's interesting. Now we won't be doing

1558
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: this for a second half, right, It's harder to keep tracking,

1559
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: harder to keep track. Yeah, yeah, nobody cares about the

1560
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 4: second half point. Yeah all right, Tim, great suggestion.

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: We love it.

1562
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 4: We'll try and remember if it happens again at some point,

1563
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: either in the playoffs, here or next season, let's call

1564
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 4: it there. We gotta get ready for our show tomorrow

1565
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 4: where we lock in our predictions for both these conference fyles.

1566
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: Our deep dive flashing around today.

1567
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

1568
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 2: Well, point for you, point for you.

1569
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 4: But tomorrow straight up diving board. Yeah, deep dive.

1570
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: You want to hear about the ninth man in this.

1571
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to throw a hockey puck into the deep end,

1572
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: tasking to go get it tomorrow and we talk about

1573
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: these cofference finals. That's how deep war going. You might

1574
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: have to throw on your Snooba gear tomorrow.

1575
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 7: So deep.

1576
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 4: I guess you're not that deep when you snoop by Scooby.

1577
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: Yet that's pretty deep.

1578
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: You feel the pressure on.

1579
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 4: The ol be talking about Peyton Pictcher tomorrow in great detail.

1580
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 3: Peace quit.

1581
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: That's right.

1582
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 7: I actually like that when when you go to your

1583
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 7: deepest take, you gotta put goggles in.

1584
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: And talk to the I do like that too.

1585
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: All right, everybody bringing bring your beach where tomorrow. All right,

1586
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: we're not reading any emails. We're going deep.

1587
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna get a loot cornette shout out.

1588
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 4: To I'm talking about trey Burg tomorrow for sure. Uh,

1589
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1590
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1597
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Speaker 4: jerseys inspired by the Nuggets, and we have a Grizzlies team.

1598
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Speaker 4: They're coming very soon. Limited edition these. I think we're

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Speaker 4: only making a hundred of each, so it's right around

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'd love to have that on and then

1602
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 5: take it off right before I go snoo bying. You

1603
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 5: get snoobuy in it?

1604
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you wouldn't want to, but great beach ware.

1605
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely Until tomorrow, guys, when we do our predictions for

1606
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 4: the conference finals. Clipper bros.

1607
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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1608
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, and remember I don't know how

1610
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Speaker 5: to size my jerseys anymore. I don't really wear stuff baggy,

1611
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Speaker 5: but with a jersey you don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Go to sick, It's yeah, you gotta find the sweet spot.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little worried about the size I picked, but

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Speaker 5: jerseys are so big anyway, even if you pick a

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Speaker 5: smaller one, so I think I'm okay, okay, embrace the day,

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Speaker 5: people

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Speaker 3: M