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Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how were you doing on this Wednesday at

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Speaker 2: Bill's training camp? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. One

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Speaker 2: practice remaining here at Saint John Fisher went buying a blink,

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Speaker 2: A blink. Steve is all too eager the hot sweat

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Speaker 2: which you'll get on Friday. Oh yeah, so good for you.

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Speaker 2: A day for the defense. I believe all three of

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Speaker 2: the two minute drill series that were run in eleven,

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Speaker 2: eleven and eleven on eleven team were won by the defense.

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Speaker 2: Foiled was the offense, although they're mainly responsible for inaccurate passes,

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Speaker 2: and the defense gets credit for some pressure up front,

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Speaker 2: particularly on third and ten, fourth and ten, things like that.

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Speaker 2: And the last two minute drill series was ended by

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Speaker 2: none other than Terrell Burgess who comes up with the

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Speaker 2: the third team offenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two minute drill drive. I don't know who the

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Speaker 1: receiver was. He was a layouts, a tough throw. He

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Speaker 1: laid out to catch it, rolled over on it, popped

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Speaker 1: up in the air right into the hands of Burgess

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Speaker 1: one of those alert, kind of alert plays. It was

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Speaker 1: Xavier Johnsonie and it was an awareness played by the defense.

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Speaker 1: They got it, the cut the ball before it hit

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Speaker 1: the ground and ended the series, and alertly he just

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Speaker 3: It was a two minute drill.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say defense has looked good over the past

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Speaker 2: five six days. They're really kind of pulling things together here,

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Speaker 2: which is encouraging because at the outset of camp, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: at the outset of camp they were not completely in sync.

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Speaker 2: Can you would understand why with the player turnover on

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Speaker 2: that side of the ball. But I think this is

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Speaker 2: something that we talked about Steve. The way this scheme

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Speaker 2: is constructed, the men who call the plays on that

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Speaker 2: within that scheme make it conducive to picking it up

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Speaker 2: in relatively short order. Number one and then number two

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Speaker 2: allow for a reasonable learning curve in how to play

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Speaker 2: off one another with all the zone concepts that are

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Speaker 1: It's a It looks like a completely different group of

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Speaker 4: Much smoother. There a lot more communication, a lot more

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Speaker 4: camaraderie back there.

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Speaker 3: You got guys to.

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Speaker 1: Having side conversations between plays, which is a perfect sign

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Speaker 1: of they're in a different spot. You know, they're in

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Speaker 1: a real you take leaps and bounds forward and that's

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Speaker 1: it's a it's some subtle differences, but if you if

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Speaker 1: you look at it, it's a whole different vibe defensively

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Speaker 3: And that's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of what we anticipated. Although you know, and I still

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Speaker 1: think they've got a lot of work to do, no question,

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Speaker 2: Among the other things that happened in practice today, Rasul

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Speaker 2: football ed Oliver greg Russeau shared a sack. Branson Dean,

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Speaker 2: undrafted rookie defensive tackle. He's flashed at times here through

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Speaker 2: the course of training camp. Flashed again today, had a

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Speaker 2: So that was encouraging to see. And then as we said,

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Speaker 2: the defense had a good day at it. Pass breakups

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Speaker 2: we're suspecting it might be a veteran rest day.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know for sure, haven't been told that

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Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp continues to have a really good camp, and

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Speaker 1: Here's what I was thinking. And that was after the

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Speaker 1: Really seeing some great things there from the defense today. Now,

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Speaker 2: Had a great seam shot to Knox.

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Speaker 1: They he had a couple of really nice seam shots

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Speaker 1: as long as they got Josh out there and he's

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Speaker 3: Offensively for sure.

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Speaker 2: Off the field, I don't know if you saw this,

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Speaker 2: Josh signed a baby today.

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Speaker 3: I saw that.

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Speaker 2: Baby's wailing and crying, the dad's holding the baby up,

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Speaker 2: So you never know what you're gonna see out here

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Speaker 2: at training camp. Josh incidentally addressed the media will have

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Speaker 2: his comments for you a little bit later on here

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Speaker 2: jam Pack Show today though, because we have the guy

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Speaker 2: that's snapping him the football, Connor McGovern, coming up in

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Speaker 2: about oh i'd say twenty five minutes time, so we'll

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Speaker 2: the snapping operation, what he's got on his checklist for

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Speaker 2: preseason game number one, and then second hour of the show,

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Speaker 2: we will have none other than head coach Sean McDermott

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Speaker 2: check in with him to see what he feels he's

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Speaker 2: gotten out of this camp, which essentially wraps up at

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Speaker 2: least here at Saint John Fisher tomorrow before they go

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Speaker 2: back to One Bill's Drive and continue their preseason preparations.

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Speaker 2: So we are chock full of nuts today. We got

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff to bring to you in just

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Speaker 2: EIGHTO three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: the NFL, which is brought to you by Kalada Healthy,

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. We've been waiting

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Speaker 2: on the Brandon Ayuk situation to resolve itself. There is

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Speaker 2: a chance that it may have done so. This is

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Speaker 2: being reported by ESPN Radio's Andrew Philipponi out of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: He says, according to his sources, the Steelers have a

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Speaker 2: verbal agreement in place with the forty nine Ers to

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Speaker 2: acquire Brandon Ayuk. He claims that all the terms of

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Speaker 2: but he claims, based on his report and what he

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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. Haven't seen that reported anywhere else to this point,

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Speaker 2: So take it with a grain of salt. But that

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Speaker 2: is the report of Andrew Philippony, So yeah, take it

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Speaker 1: Right. It was they were talking about the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: a sudden, Pittsburgh comes out and and makes the deal

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Speaker 1: for Ayuk. It might have to do with compensation, don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm Yeah, what I'm curious to see is

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Speaker 2: what's going back to the forty nine ers in the deal?

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Speaker 2: Is it a first round draft choice? Is it George Pickens?

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Speaker 2: Is it Pat Fryarmouth like? Is it a you know

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Speaker 2: it's a player swap. What the contract looks like for Ayuk.

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Speaker 2: I've got to believe it's a right around thirty million

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Speaker 2: don't think they got Nick Bosa the don't need and

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Speaker 3: When is your pass rush too good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well right, So we'll we'll wait and keep our

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep tabs on that as best we can. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Puka Nikua had a knee injury. People are all up

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Speaker 2: But Sean McVay, the head coach of the Rams, says

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Speaker 2: they believe that Nikoua will be ready for Week one

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Speaker 2: of the season. Free agency, Justin Simmons visited the Saints,

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Speaker 2: still on reserve, did not report as he seeks a

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey has a calf injury Steve, so his participation

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Speaker 2: And then there's this Jordan Poyer, who is now with

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Speaker 2: with per se right. Obviously, we don't wish any ill

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Speaker 2: injured in the sport, we know that, but there is

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Speaker 2: a cumulative effect two years in the league, miles on

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Speaker 2: the tires and injuries on a list for your career.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that doesn't get thought about enough

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Speaker 1: when when you're a young guy, you don't, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you don't have the scar tissue and the bumps and

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Speaker 1: the bruises and the accumulation of the years of contact

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Speaker 1: and physical punishment, and the reason you stay healthier. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons you stay healthier is because you can

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Speaker 1: train harder when at the end of my career and

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Speaker 1: when you were young, because you're training around a shoulder

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Speaker 2: at some point. And I'm trying to get a handle.

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Speaker 2: You know, last year, the Bills players, the starters played

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Speaker 2: So to this point, we have no confirmation. We're just

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Speaker 1: It's even a tougher question, fact, because you'd love to

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Speaker 3: So that's when you started talking about this that you

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Speaker 2: It's a delicate balance.

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Speaker 1: It really is balance, but the violence has heavier weights

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Speaker 3: Get a lot of benefit.

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Speaker 1: From that, But if you get one guy go if

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Speaker 2: Last bit of Bill's practice news that I want to

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Speaker 5: Look it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Milana was running around out there today and.

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Speaker 6: What inspired that old line wasn't really a choice.

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Speaker 7: Kevin Currents does he have he could probably do it,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, really good work flying around making plays offensive defense,

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Speaker 1: It is okay, I'm sure a relief, But what what

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Speaker 7: to stick up for his teammates. And again he just

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Speaker 7: he does the little things the right way. So one

440
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Speaker 7: unfortunate situation, too happy to see him get out of it,

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Speaker 7: okay and and be on the practice field the next day.

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Speaker 6: It's a he's a warrior.

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Speaker 2: Trash talk here, what do you make of some of

444
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Speaker 2: his trips that guys.

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Speaker 7: Alex, He's he's pretty good. He's pretty good. I won't

446
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Speaker 7: say what he says, but he's pretty good.

447
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Speaker 8: Another scary situation with Andy Isabella one day.

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Speaker 5: Thankfully he was out there today.

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Speaker 9: You reacted strongly to that situation.

450
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Speaker 5: Just why did you feel the need to speak.

451
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Speaker 7: Up after that whole strugg you know, just standing up

452
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Speaker 7: for guys and we'll keep the rest in the house.

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Speaker 9: How would you evaluate the training him the end of

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Speaker 9: the off season and they has got out them a

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Speaker 9: second time this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be great to have him back.

458
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Speaker 7: Obviously, the last couple of years he's been elsewhere, and

459
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Speaker 7: you know, I've got such a good relationship with him

460
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Speaker 7: off the field, you know, I I love him and Shane.

461
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Speaker 7: They've been both working their tails off, you know, getting

462
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Speaker 7: the playbook hard, and they've been going out there and

463
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Speaker 7: making some real good plays, and you know, be it'll

464
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Speaker 7: be fun to see them in action in the preseason.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure how much I'm playing, if I'm playing

466
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Speaker 7: at all, well, I guess we'll find out, but I

467
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Speaker 7: know that they will be so I'm very excited to

468
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Speaker 7: go see them and see them perform at a high level. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I know, it just don't really I don't feel it

470
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Speaker 7: makes a difference for me at this point in my career.

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Speaker 7: So to get things rolling would be nice, but I

472
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Speaker 7: understand not getting out there and making sure that we're

473
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Speaker 7: being healthy and being protective. So again, it's a double

474
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Speaker 7: ed short any way you look at it. So if

475
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Speaker 7: if I'm asked to play, I'll play, and if I'm

476
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Speaker 7: told not to play, I won't play. So the competitive

477
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Speaker 7: juices any want to play. But I understand that, you know,

478
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Speaker 7: week one, we still got We've got some time.

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Speaker 9: So I think people sending it home with play you've

480
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Speaker 9: got to be in a game to get that. I

481
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Speaker 9: don't know if they would know how heavy they could

482
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Speaker 9: be just in the practice center. Can you talk about

483
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Speaker 9: that a little bit. I mean it's not full tackle

484
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Speaker 9: and you're a red jersey and all that. How you

485
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Speaker 9: get what you need in the setting here as.

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Speaker 2: Opposed to the game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think it's early similar again, having

488
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Speaker 7: the red jersey and knowing that guys aren't gonna, aren't

489
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Speaker 7: supposed to hit you.

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Speaker 6: It feels pretty good to be back there.

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Speaker 7: I know that you can go through your reads at

492
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Speaker 7: a quick pace, but understand that the whistle will be

493
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Speaker 7: blown at some point, so.

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Speaker 6: That's the good side of it.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, getting hit is a part of the game, and

496
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Speaker 7: you can practice how you get hit.

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Speaker 6: I know it sounds.

498
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Speaker 7: Weird to say that, but just the way that you land,

499
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Speaker 7: the way that you fall, the way that you take

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Speaker 7: on hits is something that can be practiced and learned.

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Speaker 7: And the first couple of weeks throughout the season, you're

502
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Speaker 7: waking up after a game and your neck and your

503
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 7: body is sore than you've ever felt it because of

504
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Speaker 7: just the amount of times that you've gotten hit. So

505
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Speaker 7: making sure that you know, we can adjust for that

506
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Speaker 7: and you only get those reps.

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Speaker 10: In games and always look ahead to the next game

508
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Speaker 10: or the next whatever. At any point during camp, have

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Speaker 10: you miss Stefan?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think Steph's a great player and what

511
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Speaker 7: he brought to this team was was special, So miss

512
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Speaker 7: is is? I don't know if i'd say miss You know,

513
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 7: he was a guy that was reliable. You can you

514
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 7: can look to He's gonna have the juice each and

515
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 7: every day. I'm sure he's bringing over there in Houston.

516
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 7: So definitely, yeah, you can't say that you don't miss that.

517
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Speaker 7: But I am very happy with what we got going

518
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 7: on here and how hard the guys have been working and.

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Speaker 10: Unannoying getting to built the guys and knowing that you know,

520
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 10: know what's going to replace the seven things that's ano

521
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Speaker 10: mention there, and you can in the mansion with the

522
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Speaker 10: kind of pat quantity of the place, play like war players.

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Speaker 3: And one tay. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm very comfortable with the guys that we've

525
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Speaker 7: brought in. And it's no secret. You know, Stuff was

526
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Speaker 7: an all pro here and he's got the stats to

527
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Speaker 7: back it up. You know, each year he had one

528
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Speaker 7: hundred plus catches and a thousand plus yards and that's

529
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Speaker 7: a heavy workload for someone to come and fill those shoes.

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Speaker 7: And I understand that the guys in that room understand that.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, the approach that these guys

532
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Speaker 7: have had of working hard and putting their head down,

533
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Speaker 7: and you know, when they get the ball, they get

534
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Speaker 7: the ball, and when they don't, they're doing everything they

535
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Speaker 7: can to help somebody else get the ball and break

536
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Speaker 7: them free. So you know, well, I guess we'll we'll

537
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Speaker 7: find out one.

538
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Speaker 2: Of those guys is wise.

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Speaker 7: How have you assessed him getting more comfortable in this

540
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Speaker 7: offense over the course of the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: And how much have you has your report grown with

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Speaker 1: him over the last year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, obviously a late start with him him

544
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 7: coming to OTA's fairly later than most guys, obviously signing

545
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 7: him late in the process. Just getting to know him

546
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Speaker 7: as a guy and and feel his body language on

547
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Speaker 7: on the field. You know, we've just been behind with

548
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 7: the time, and I feel like this last couple of

549
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Speaker 7: weeks we've really gotten into a groove and understand how

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Speaker 7: he's thinking.

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Speaker 6: He understands how I'm thinking. He's a very smart player.

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Speaker 7: He's been a lot of really good offenses in his

553
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 7: past and been around some really good quarterbacks, so he

554
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 7: knows he knows what he's talking about. He's got that

555
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 7: experience and it's good to lean on that.

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Speaker 2: Reps be helpful considering how many changes have been around

557
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Speaker 2: you in the offense this year.

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Speaker 6: I mean, reps are always helpful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seen how I'm illustrated camp on the field, but

560
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Speaker 1: also as he works with some of the receivers, he

561
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Speaker 1: knows he better.

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Speaker 5: You've been talking about like how he's.

563
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Speaker 2: Trying to bring up on board and everything.

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Speaker 7: What do you see how Yeah, there's there's a sense

565
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 7: of relaxation with him, I think, going into his third

566
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Speaker 7: year with us, and you know, understanding his role and

567
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Speaker 7: you know, he was asked to do a lot of

568
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 7: stuff for us last year, and uh, you know, he

569
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 7: took it and stride. So I'm very very happy with

570
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Speaker 7: where he's at. He's a baller, he makes plays, he

571
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Speaker 7: does the little things the right way. He's easy to

572
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Speaker 7: love and you know, he's a guy that gets along

573
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Speaker 7: with everybody in this locker room, which makes your root

574
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 7: for that guy even that much harder. But again, we

575
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Speaker 7: saw the production that he had last year at the

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Speaker 7: end of the season, and you know, we're we're expecting

577
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Speaker 7: nothing but the same from.

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Speaker 4: Him, exactly.

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Speaker 6: Said aside, he's been making plays.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's been popping on film, you know, and

581
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Speaker 7: whatever way you look at it, he's making beans decisions

582
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: very very difficult. You know, he's done enough where you

583
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Speaker 7: know guys are and every room's like, man, this guy's

584
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 7: out there making plays. He's a six foot six, six

585
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Speaker 7: foot seven guy that can move.

586
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Speaker 6: He can go up and catch the ball.

587
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 7: Again, another guy that is running to the football after

588
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 7: the play, making the extra block doing things the right

589
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 7: way that you know you'd love to have those types

590
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Speaker 7: of guys on your team, so you know it'll be

591
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Speaker 7: a big preseason for him and hopefully can go out

592
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Speaker 7: there make some plays for us.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Josh Allen addressing the media after practice.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna take a break. When we come back,

596
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have the guy sitting right here in between

597
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Speaker 2: us in the center, appropriately because it's Connor McGovern the

598
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Speaker 2: guy that's snapping to Josh Allen. He'll join us on

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Speaker 2: said next. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colt

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Speaker 2: of Health, it's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Bill's training camp at Saint John Fisher,

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Please to be joined

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Speaker 2: now by the man in the pivot, Connor mcgovernor, number

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Speaker 2: sixty six in your program, number one in your heart.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us some time. Connor, first and foremost,

606
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Speaker 2: how you're pretty much at the end of this thing camps,

607
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Speaker 2: Like I know, it continues back in One Bill's Drive,

608
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Speaker 2: but it's different when you get back one more practice here,

609
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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy. One less sleep tonight and we're back home

611
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 5: and camp. We're still in camp, but it's a lot

612
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: different when you're sleep in your own bed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it has you see the benefit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's got acknowledge the benefit of being

615
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Speaker 1: together all the time and getting to know each other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that helps the team chemistry tremendously. When you're with

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Speaker 5: each other twenty four to seven, you're away from all

618
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Speaker 5: the other distractions. So it just helps a lot. It's

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Speaker 5: good to get away for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Are mustaches part of the bonding experience. You've got one,

621
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Speaker 2: Josh has got one. Who else is growing stashes?

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Speaker 5: Right, there's three of us. It was supposed to be

623
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Speaker 5: a whole offensive thing, but guys are Oh I don't

624
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Speaker 5: look good with it. And it's not about looking good,

625
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 5: it's about being team. So it's me, David Edwards and Josh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta like, we gotta grow.

627
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: We got it really was me and Dave first we

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Speaker 5: hold true and then Josh finally joined in with those

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Speaker 5: we finally he was given a lot of like pushback

630
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Speaker 5: on it, but he finally gave way.

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Speaker 2: Maybe no shave November, you can pick up if.

632
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Speaker 5: You asked my wife first.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're a smart man. I'll give you credit

634
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: on that one.

635
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Speaker 1: We were a lot of things coming into this camp

636
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: we were surprised by and you you let the cat

637
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: out of the bag. Early in OTA's and Mini camps,

638
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: people were saying, well, we lost Mitch, miss is gonna

639
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: go what's gonna happen to gonna move the government? And

640
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: when you got in, you said, yeah, this is me.

641
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this and how is it gone? You

642
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: feel good about it? And Josh I love it so far.

643
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Speaker 5: It was like natural going back Me and Josh at

644
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: the beginning, like you know, it is OTA's offseason, like

645
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: it's easy just getting the snaps, but when the pats

646
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: comand why bullets, we're just finding each other's rhythm where

647
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: we liked there, like where I like his hands, where

648
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: he likes placing his hands, Just getting natural and getting

649
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: in that groove of each other. And we found that

650
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Speaker 5: and I think we're starting to gell more and more

651
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Speaker 5: each day.

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Speaker 2: Right, So we go into this first preseason game that's

653
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Speaker 2: your first live bullets there, and I know you feel

654
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Speaker 2: like you've made all the adjustments necessary because I know

655
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Speaker 2: Mitch used to snap it a little different. Yeah, you

656
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 2: get in Josh's left hand.

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00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Mitch was tendency to throw it over on

658
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: the left butt cheeks, So that's where Josh was used

659
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: to the past four years over there. So we've been

660
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: working them back towards.

661
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: In the middle. Okay, and what are you trying? I mean,

662
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: we don't know how much you starters are even going

663
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: to play in this first preseason game. We have no

664
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: idea under the mind.

665
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 5: Out let me.

666
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's just say you are what are you

667
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: going to try to take from those first live bullets

668
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: being you know, in the pivot? Now, what do you

669
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: kind of want to have? What's on your checklist?

670
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: I would say the first and fore most the biggest

671
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: checkboxes communication, Like I feel like last year at times

672
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: that's where it broke down, Like the five of us

673
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 5: might be on the same page, but tight ends wide receivers,

674
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: running backs, we might be all over the place if

675
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: all eleven of us are playing same football, even if

676
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 5: all eleven of us are wrong, but we're wrong together

677
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: we're right. So that's what I think is the biggest box.

678
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: We gotta checks and when the plan is for you

679
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: to go in and last year, you guys were unbelievably blessed,

680
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: all five of you guys, taking all one hundred percent

681
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: of the snaps except one series in the Miami game

682
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: with yeah, probably not gonna happen again, like.

683
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 5: My six years, that's till that's the first time it's

684
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: ever happened.

685
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Right, Averages.

686
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: So your offensive line coach, he's got you shifting guys around,

687
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: he's got you moving guard center, and how's Van pran

688
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: Granger doing?

689
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: And he's moving around, so he's doing well.

690
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: I would say set an excellent job, very high football

691
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: IQ learning how to play both center, both guards, sorry

692
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 5: and center. And then they have alc Anson doing the

693
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 5: same thing Ryan Vandermark on both tackles. This guys is

694
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 5: being ready to play wherever uh you saw this week

695
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: Me and Deonce are again less reps just to get

696
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 5: other guys won reps in. They're just getting used to

697
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen this weekend and following weeks where the

698
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: ones might not get everything. Just guys working with each other.

699
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: It's just all about building that team chemistry together.

700
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: A lot has been made about how much turnover there

701
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: has been at the receiver position. You got you know,

702
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: a couple of new young guys in the backfield. You

703
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: got Davidson back from a c L injury at the

704
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: tight end spot. Nobody's talking about the line because the

705
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: line is kind of a given. Like I think it's

706
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: an underrated part of why this offense is probably not

707
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: going to miss a beat this year because you got

708
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback back there, and you guys are essentially the same.

709
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Alec is your new sixth offensive lineman

710
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: and heavy packages going jumbo, but other than that, like

711
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: everybody's the same up front. How much of a continuity

712
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: value is that you know for this offense going forward?

713
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 5: It's a huge Valey especially another Y're all of us

714
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: under Chromer just learned that technique, Like yep, you had

715
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 5: me coming in last year and Cibo our first year

716
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: is with Chromer getting used to that. You saw a

717
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: big of a jump Spencer made, Dion made and then

718
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 5: now just all of us, like David Edwards had him

719
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: his first two years in the league in LA, So

720
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 5: just all of us now know each other how we play,

721
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 5: how Chromer sees it. We all see it the same way,

722
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: and I think it's just huge. And then the guys

723
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: behind us too are doing the same thing.

724
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Give us some insight in the conversations you guys are

725
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: having about what the offense feels like under Brady, Oh.

726
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 5: We love it. We're run Have you see it. We're

727
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 5: focusing on like he makes sure he comes to the

728
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: line room sees what we like. I think it's a

729
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 5: big aspect this year. We've had the running backs in

730
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 5: our offensive line meetings to see how we want to

731
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 5: set up the blocks, how they think about hitting the holes.

732
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: Just little stuff like that where we didn't do enough

733
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: last year, and I think that's going to set us

734
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 5: up for even more success than then, just be able

735
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 5: to have play actions off that throw it down the

736
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: fields we need to. So we have so many weapons

737
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: right now.

738
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: All right, So now we got to get to the

739
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: pizza discussion. So obviously you've had the pizza parties. I

740
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: think he even did that back in Dallas, right it started, okay,

741
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: and so you continue to hear attendance, I would think

742
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: is good. You know, offensive linemen and food they go together. Naturally.

743
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 5: There's a waiting list now and the people are.

744
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Wow, not have enough seating at the house or its

745
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: specific disclosed location. So I don't need the location. I

746
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: don't want to give it away.

747
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, so usually about thirty some people come to the house. Okay,

748
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: so all those kids are always allowed, coaches come, and

749
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: then people keep hearing about it, hearing about it and

750
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: keep trying to get invited. So if someone misses, you're out.

751
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 5: You get moved right down the bottom. And then someone

752
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 5: else gets invited in, and wow. A lot of the

753
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 5: smaller guys like invited. Once they're invited, they don't miss

754
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 5: their show up first, Like Trent Sherfield last year, he

755
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: got the first invite. He was always the first one there. Afterwards,

756
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: it's hard to get that spot back. You gotta keep

757
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 5: working your way back.

758
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: And it's like a high end restaurant right to the

759
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: bottom of the list. All right, So let's just talk

760
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: about pizzas. Because I was fortunate enough to go on

761
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: a family we just I took my family and went

762
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: to Knopoly. We were in Italy, Southern Italy and everything.

763
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: I took a pizza making class, learned a couple of

764
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: tips there. So what kind of dough are you using?

765
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 5: Like I make everything from scratch, So I asked, you

766
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: make your own dough? Yep, So I get my flower imported.

767
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 5: I use a mixture of type double zero and semolina,

768
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: and then I have other ingreens I put in there.

769
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: But I thought, okay, that's fine, that's fine. And then

770
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: with respect to cheese. So I'm taking this pizza making class,

771
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm in Napoly, I'm in Italy. So the guy's like, oh,

772
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: this cheese is local. It doesn't get shipped, it doesn't

773
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: get imported unless you got a lot of money, Like

774
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: that's what makes their pizza. They claim this special kind

775
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: of fresh mozzarella or no it was, I don't I'm

776
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: not even gonna remember the name of it. I've got

777
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: I wrote, I did take notes at but I can't

778
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: remember off the top of my head what it was called.

779
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, like, how do you get your hands

780
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: on that cheese if you're not in southern Italy? So

781
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: I don't know like they they claim it's a game changer.

782
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I didn't taste too much.

783
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 5: Like I did three cheese blend. Like I get a

784
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: special cheese, it's brick cheese. It's called it's only made

785
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 5: in Wisconsin. So I get that chipped down everything else

786
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: you can find locally, Like you want to do like

787
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 5: a low moisture monzrella, so it melts evenly in the

788
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: oven because of the high like a regular montrello is

789
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 5: very wet. So that's why it's good for the like

790
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 5: high heat ovens like eight hundred nine hundred degrees cook fast.

791
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: But then I do a little asiago in there too.

792
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 5: Do you have a wood burning No, I do everything

793
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: out of my normal oven. I just have steel plates

794
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: put into my oven so it gets even hotter.

795
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I was gonna.

796
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 5: So I had an outdoor a gas oven back in Texas,

797
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 5: but I almost burned off my eyebrows, so my wife

798
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: made me get rid of it.

799
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 2: Got a little too close peeking.

800
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 5: I went on of the burners. It was shooting off

801
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: the wrong way takes it, and the shot a fireball

802
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: sends my hair and like I had a red line

803
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 5: going across my forehead. Come in. My wife's like, did

804
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 5: you get flowering? Because it's yelling. My hair is yellow.

805
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: She's like, did you get flower in your hair? I

806
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: was like no. She rusted my hair and all the

807
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: hair just kind of just smell. Yeah.

808
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: She's like, all right, that's lucky, and get that man,

809
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: you're lucky that that's.

810
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: The kind of sacrificial commitment we're looking for with pizza, right, you.

811
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: Got to be able to get in and be little

812
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: test subjects something.

813
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: And word has clearly gotten around because a local restaurant

814
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: here brought you in to kind of throw some dough around.

815
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 5: A little later, we were at Burns was the first

816
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: the night before the first off day. We had a

817
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: O line dinner there. A couple of other groups were

818
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 5: there too, and halfway through the manager comes up. He's like,

819
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: you want to get down behind the oven. I was like, sure,

820
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: for what up? And he's like, the chef wants to

821
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: make pizza with you. So I was down there tossing

822
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: it up down with them making special pizzas and let

823
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: us take it back.

824
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: Okay. Nice.

825
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: Now here's the one thing that I did learn in Naples, Italy.

826
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: They don't toss it up in the air. It's just

827
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: working the hands around the edge. They said, all that

828
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: stuff you do in the.

829
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: US, it's for a show.

830
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like that. That's not like they're so

831
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: proud over there. It's unbelievable. I was just like all right,

832
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: like fine, you know, like we can work it with

833
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: the hands and stuff, but they don't throw it up

834
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: in the air, they claim, So I don't know, but yeah, cool.

835
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: Give us an idea.

836
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: Now, as we were gonna close this out, let's talk

837
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: a little bit about this game, first preseason game. Any

838
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: inklings about how much you guys or if you guys

839
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: will play. Obviously, if Josh is gonna be in there,

840
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be snapping too.

841
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, it just comes out, and I think we'll

842
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: find out tomorrow through and walk throughs a little bit

843
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: more Friday. But I guess last year, I think we

844
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: did a series of two in the first game. Yeah,

845
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: it's more about the young guys in there feeling it,

846
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 5: and then as the preseason goes on, I think we'll

847
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 5: play more and more.

848
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: Right, right, do you feel like.

849
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: That?

850
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about communication and it being on

851
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: the checklist, but with everybody essentially being the same, and

852
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, David Edwards was your jump go guy last year,

853
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: do you just feel like it's you hit the ground

854
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: running when you guys got here. I know that there's

855
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: install and there's things to learn and all of that

856
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: stuff and getting in sync, but I have to believe

857
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: you guys felt like you could really hit the ground

858
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: running and just kind of pick up where you left go.

859
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: Definitely, I would say even more so than the last year.

860
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 5: Last year it was me and Sieb. We're both getting there.

861
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: We're getting used to both sides now, everyone's played with

862
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: each other. Even though I've never played next to Sydeble,

863
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: I know how he SATs just by watching last year

864
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: David Edwards the same thing. So it's kind of just

865
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 5: the first few days like feeling each other out, and

866
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 5: then once we all clicked, we were often set and

867
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: we didn't need the multiple weeks like last year and

868
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: get the multiple preseason games. Right, We're already there. Nice.

869
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: Do you guys feel I don't know, maybe you don't

870
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: feel this burden at all, but you know, there's a

871
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: lot of change going on on the defensive side of

872
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: the ball, a lot of veteran leadership out of the lineup,

873
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: new guys filling roles. You know, it may take them

874
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks to kind of get all their

875
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: ducks in a row and play lights out defense like

876
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: we're used to seeing them. Does that Does that even

877
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: register with you guys? Like, hey, you know, maybe we

878
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: want to put a few more touch downs on the

879
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: board early in the season if we can, and kind

880
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: of so those guys can kind of figure it out,

881
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: so to speak. You know what I'm saying, like, do

882
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: not even enter your consciousness.

883
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 5: We try not to think about it. Then you're overthinking things.

884
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, like if this happens, this happens. We

885
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 5: just try to focus just one drive at our time,

886
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 5: like area, if we could control the ball as long

887
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: as we can and give our defensive break, Yeah, I

888
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 5: think that's the best thing. If we could just run

889
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 5: the ball, eat up as much clock, then they don't

890
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 5: have to be on the field that they could just

891
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 5: worry about russ and Russian and Russian. I think that's

892
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: what it comes down to.

893
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Well, Connor, thanks for coming us, spend us some time

894
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: with us. I'm glad you're in one piece. Hope you

895
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: guys stay all in one piece again this year. What

896
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: a season it was. Thanks for joining us, Thank you

897
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: for having me stay healthy.

898
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: All right, look forward, good luck in the preseason and

899
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: obviously in the regular season. We got to take a

900
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: break here, but that's Connor McGovern your Bill's center. We'll

901
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: take a break. Be back with more on one Bill's

902
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: Live presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

903
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: All right.

904
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Time to thank our good friends at Wegmans for providing

905
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: us with lunch here at Saint John Fisher University. During

906
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: training camp. We were told that it was a surprise today.

907
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: We were not given any advanced scouting report on what

908
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: we were going to find in the big Wegman's bag today,

909
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: and we.

910
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 11: Got the next door Bento box, which is essentially a

911
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 11: chef's selection of sashimi nagiri, a seasonal appetizer, and half

912
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 11: of a featured sushi roll, along with miso, salmon or

913
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 11: beef skewers.

914
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: Think you and I had the beef skewers that it

915
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: was outstanding seasons with sauce, sesame sprinkles.

916
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 3: Box like almost like a gift box. Is really high end.

917
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: And artfully crafted sushi.

918
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: And yes, very much so. And it was.

919
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Expertly grilled meats, seafoods and veterans. Nice something for everyone

920
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: to enjoy. For sure in that box is really good,

921
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: so tasty, tasty stuff. So thanks to Wegmans again, the

922
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: official tailgate headquarters of your Buffalo Bills. In case you

923
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: didn't know, the good conversation there with Connor McGovern. I

924
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: found it interesting that, you know, coach McDermott and Josh

925
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: Allen have both said that the communication has been outstanding

926
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: pre snap across the line, getting the calls out to everybody,

927
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: and yet on Connor McGovern's checklist for preseason game number

928
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: one is still communication.

929
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it must be pretty important, I guess, huh.

930
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, not resting on the laurels of practice,

931
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: like it sounded good in practice, Let's make sure it

932
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: sounds good in a game too. Yeah.

933
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: And I think right then, the thing he reiterated to

934
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: wasn't the offensive line. They've got it together, this buying large,

935
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: same group as last year. McGovern's there, and you know

936
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: David Edwards was right there too, in the in the

937
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: room the whole year. So they sat there and had

938
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: all these conversations. But well, McGovern told us, and what

939
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: McDermott intererated was the tight ends and the wide receivers

940
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: all being on there as well. I mean it's hard

941
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: for me to imagine the center having to communicate with

942
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, but to have everybody on that page

943
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: and being able to do that, having a protocol to

944
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: get that done when you need it. It's pretty big

945
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: and that's that's yeah, what are you gonna do? It's

946
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: high level stuff, and then they're they're working on it.

947
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: The one thing we did not get to talk to

948
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern about in the allotted time that we had

949
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: was the rapidly growing Penn State contingent right now exists

950
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: on this roster. You already had Connor McGovern, Okay, justin

951
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: Shorter spent time there before transferring to Florida. kJ Hamler

952
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: is at Penn State alone. Austin Johnson and day Kwon

953
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: Jones where teammates at Penn State as defensive lineman. So

954
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: that's five right there.

955
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: Joe Brady was a graduate se so Brady was a.

956
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 8: GA, began his coaching career there and the last draft

957
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 8: Govern's freshman year he was a gay and then the

958
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 8: last draft pick of the Bills this spring, Day Kwon

959
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 8: Hardy Penn State. So you got half a dozen Penn

960
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 8: State guys on this roster. And don't forget the owner

961
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 8: is a Penn State alum as well, mister Terry Petula,

962
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 8: So there you go.

963
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Does he have something to do with it there?

964
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Maybe kind of doubted, but yeah, maybe maybe.

965
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: Six guys from the same school, I mean different eras

966
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: you know, some.

967
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: Guys they weren't teammates, but.

968
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: Except except for Dayquon and Austin Johnson, those two guys

969
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: were teammates.

970
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: There's some guys there. But what are you gonna do?

971
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: That's that's interesting.

972
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if I think Hamler and McGovern might

973
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: have been there at least for a year or two together.

974
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: For Hamdler's in his fourth year, I want to say,

975
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth season, fifth or sixth season.

976
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: So there might have been some crossover there his rookie

977
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: season in rookie contract in Dallas, which would have been

978
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: a four year deal, came here and then came here

979
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: that's his fifth and Handler's in his yeh, Hamler probably,

980
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: I think they Hammer came out a year after mcgoverern Yeah,

981
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: I think that's I think.

982
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: We've got that right. So just just an observation. Just

983
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: found it interesting.

984
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 8: Uh.

985
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: There is an update on the Brandon Ayuk story. Jordan

986
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: Schultz of The Schultz Report is saying, according to his sources,

987
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: there is still no deal between the forty nine Ers

988
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: and Steelers on a trade that would send Ayuk to Pittsburgh.

989
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: The two sides have spoken, they continue to speak. The

990
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: situation remains very fluid, but as of this post, there

991
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: is no agreement on all sides. I don't know that

992
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: that's terribly different from what Andrew Philippony, who works for

993
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: ESPN Radio and Pittsburgh, was reporting. With the exception of

994
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: Philippony said, it is going to happen. They will get

995
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: it over the goal line. It's just a matter of time.

996
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: So he's reporting more it's it's an issue of when,

997
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: not if, whereas the Jordan Schultz report it seems a

998
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: little more iffy, like it's very fluid. It could change.

999
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: The whole thing could be done and go up and smoke.

1000
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: Well until it's signed, it can.

1001
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: So there's people in Pittsburgh waiting, like the Vatican reporters

1002
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: wait on the new post smoke. They're waiting for smoke,

1003
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 2: black smoke. It's not nothing got done. Got to wait

1004
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 2: for the white smoke.

1005
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: Usually, in a situation like this, when we've seen it before,

1006
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: it probably will happen. The only question is what are

1007
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: the Niners gonna get out of the Steelers to get

1008
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: back for Branton. I'm very a player who is ready

1009
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: to put a team on the hook for thirty million

1010
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: bucks a year.

1011
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and based on money alone, should be considered an

1012
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: alpha dog number one receiver. If it's going to carry

1013
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: a price tag of thirty million dollar contract, you best

1014
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: believe that the forty nine ers are going to want

1015
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: some major compe return.

1016
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.

1017
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: If you're the Steelers and you're Steelers ownership, and you're

1018
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: you know, you're mister Rooney over there, and you're going,

1019
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: wait a minute minute, we're gonna give up this, this

1020
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: and this and pay the guy thirty million bucks.

1021
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1022
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: So from the Steelers standpoint, Listen, they're gonna tell the Niners. Listen,

1023
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna we gotta pay the guy thirty million bucks

1024
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: a year, twenty five million bucks a year to keep him.

1025
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: And now you want us to give you a great

1026
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: a couple of great players in some whatever whatever draft picks.

1027
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: It might be too steep, you know, it might be

1028
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: too steep.

1029
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm going back to the trade that

1030
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: the Bills made to acquire Stefan Diggs four years ago.

1031
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: So they got Digs and a twenty twenty seventh round

1032
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: pick in exchange for a one, a five, and a

1033
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: six in twenty twenty and a four and twenty twenty

1034
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 2: one four draft choices and digs was the same age

1035
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 2: that Ayuk is now. And Ayuk has even more production

1036
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: than did in his last year in Minnesota. So I

1037
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: gotta think it's gonna take like a one of four

1038
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: and a five if you want to power it with

1039
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: draft capital.

1040
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: Would a really good player.

1041
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you throw in a player, that obviously changes

1042
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: the picture, but it's gonna be steep. He's in the

1043
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: prime of his career. He just put up a twelve

1044
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: hundred yard season and seven touchdowns like and had what

1045
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: seventy something catches, Like if he's making thirty million a year,

1046
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: he's a front line receiver. That's gonna change the dynamics

1047
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: of your passing game.

1048
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1049
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 2: That's gonna cost a pretty penny.

1050
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it should. But you know, here's the thing.

1051
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: I get it.

1052
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: You want good players on your team, and you're gonna

1053
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: go out and get them, and particularly guys who are

1054
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: proven players in their prime, like ready to like step

1055
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: on the gas.

1056
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: Russ, Wilson and.

1057
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: Haskins really the guys to get the most out of

1058
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk.

1059
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know Russell Wilson and Justin Fields.

1060
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Who does, I say, Haskins, He said, I

1061
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: he's no longer with us, Justin Fields, Russ Wilson and

1062
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: Justin Fields.

1063
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, man.

1064
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the reason that Pittsburgh can afford to

1065
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: do the deal is because they've got a Fields on

1066
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 2: a one year deal and Wilson on a one year

1067
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: deal for one point two million on their books, twenty

1068
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: something million on Denver's books. I get that, but I mean, yeah,

1069
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: they have to figure out the quarterback situation that's even

1070
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: more important than this.

1071
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: It's like buying a Ferrari with no driver's license or tires.

1072
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1073
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. We have to take a break here,

1074
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: but our number two is going to begin with a bang,

1075
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: because sitting between us for the second hour of the

1076
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: show will be head coach Sean McDermott. Has he gotten

1077
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: what he's wanted out of this training camp? And how

1078
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: is he looking forward? Based on getting back to one

1079
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: Bill's Drive, where the preseason preparations will continue, we'll cover

1080
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: that amongst the host of other topics next here on

1081
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1082
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kaleida Health.

1083
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: Back here for hour number two. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1084
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: at Bill's training camp. Second to Land stay already out

1085
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: here at Saint John Fisher please to be joined by now.

1086
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: In his eighth season as head coach of the Buffalo Bill,

1087
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: Sean McDermot, how does that sound?

1088
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 4: Eight season, eight years younger, eight years younger, right, wildest

1089
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: eight years?

1090
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: Or it is?

1091
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 4: What a blessing?

1092
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. And you guys started We've been

1093
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: talking about it.

1094
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: You came in and you were you know, you busted

1095
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: your chops to get the job. You became a really

1096
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator, play callers we saw last year, and

1097
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: you also had the ability to build a roster.

1098
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: You're kind of backed at that, right.

1099
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: You had a lot of turnover this year, and I

1100
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: was talking to Brandon, this is kind of right in

1101
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: your wheelhouse putting this together and maximizing the guys you got.

1102
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: You're light years ahead of where you were in twenty seventeen,

1103
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: but it is kind of reminiscent of what you had

1104
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: to put together back then.

1105
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, you know, It's kind of fun the

1106
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: challenge that we face, and it's great to work with

1107
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: someone like Brannon and attacking this thing head on. And

1108
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: the players have been phenomenal, the staff has been phenomenal,

1109
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 4: and you know, we've just been out here like we're

1110
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 4: not putting together a track team. We're putting together a

1111
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 4: football team, right, and all that comes with now, So

1112
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 4: how the pieces fit together and watching these players on

1113
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: the field, getting to know them off the field, that's

1114
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: all part of it.

1115
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: There's a value that I know you feel you get

1116
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 2: out of training camp being here twenty four to seven

1117
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: football and all that stuff. I don't know what it

1118
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: is about this group of players, and I know every

1119
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: year is different. And I'm not saying previous iterations of

1120
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: this team were not tight or you know, ready to

1121
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: sweat for one another, bleed for one another and all

1122
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: that stuff. There just seems to be a communal feel

1123
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: to this group that you have on this roster. I

1124
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: don't know what. I haven't put my finger on what's different,

1125
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: but there just seems to be this tightness and this

1126
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: communal approach to going out there and trying to play

1127
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: winning football that just feels different. Have you sensed anything

1128
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: that feels a little different about this group. I can't

1129
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: figure out what.

1130
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 4: It is, you mean, other than the squirmishes we have

1131
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: in practice, other than that talk about right.

1132
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: Now, would even count of squirmishes. Back in my day,

1133
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: my guys, it was deathmatch. But yeah, yeah, aside from that, Yeah, just.

1134
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Feels like, I don't know, there's a communal feeling today.

1135
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like Chris, that the unselfish nature

1136
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 4: of this football team, the players that we had, the

1137
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 4: coaches and had a chance to watch, the coaches. We've

1138
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 4: got some new coaches came in the spring, understood their

1139
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 4: role and really just helped us from a collaboration standpoint,

1140
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: And now the same thing with the players through the spring,

1141
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 4: through almost the whole part of training camp since we've

1142
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 4: come to Saint John Fisher, you know, working hard to

1143
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: improve individually and improve our team collectively. And like I said,

1144
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: we're not putting together a track team, We're putting together

1145
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: a football team. And that unselfish nature that has to

1146
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: come with that. I've seen a lot of that to

1147
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: this point.

1148
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's that's one of the things a lot

1149
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: of other sports kind of don't get. Maybe hockey you

1150
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: get that a little bit, but it hurts to play.

1151
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you you're gonna be in some pain. You

1152
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: got to care about the guys you hurt for. Otherwise

1153
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: you're just gonna step back and say, listen, I'm not

1154
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: gonna do it. It's a big issue. And that's why

1155
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, you come over here and you kind of

1156
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: spend twenty four to seven. By the way, I'm not

1157
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not here, but you spend twenty four

1158
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: to seven.

1159
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: Oh, he's spent.

1160
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 4: I always under the impression that you're here every day

1161
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven.

1162
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: I am not to know, all right, I have the

1163
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: ability to check out and I and you need that,

1164
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: but I, yes, I he does. It really is, Yeah,

1165
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: it really is important for these guys to, you know,

1166
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: the relationships because the injury rate is one hundred percent.

1167
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna come down with something during the season, and

1168
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: you gotta care about the guys you're hurting for otherwise

1169
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: it shows on the field.

1170
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would agree. I mean, you know, being

1171
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: around some of the players that that you played with,

1172
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 4: Jim and Thurman, uh and the list goes on. But

1173
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: that was one of the first things that I did

1174
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: when when when I arrived eight years ago, was to

1175
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: be around you and the teams and your teammates that

1176
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: you had and just listening to some of the memories

1177
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: the stories, you could tell that there was that bond

1178
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 4: that you're referring to, and having that bond it only

1179
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 4: comes by getting to know one another and spending time

1180
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: with one another. And you know, unfortunately in the modern

1181
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: salary cap era, we don't get the time to have

1182
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: X amount of years around each other. And so the

1183
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 4: time that we do have spending at training camp, getting

1184
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: to know one another on a day off yesterday, where

1185
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: players can just go go get some ice cream, hang out,

1186
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 4: play cards. I mean, that's where the relationships really blossom.

1187
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, it does help having that

1188
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: cohesion and having guys that care about each other, but

1189
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: you also got to have guys that can play right right,

1190
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and you do it seems like the talent

1191
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: level across this rosters and now you may have some

1192
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: question about you don't know if this guy's gonna be

1193
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: good on which guy it's gonna be, but you really

1194
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: got to feel good about the talent you've got going

1195
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: forward and being able to win game with these guys.

1196
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, as you mentioned, there's there's some

1197
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: of it is starting over a little bit, and we've

1198
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: got some some We graduated some people who you know,

1199
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 4: did a heck of a job for us over a

1200
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: number of years, and now we've added some new people

1201
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: that are gonna take some time to develop. And that's

1202
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: that's the challenge that we have in front of us.

1203
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: And some of them got the injury bug a little

1204
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: bit earlier than we had hoped, and so it's it's

1205
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: kind of getting the way a little bit. All that

1206
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 4: being said, the effort on that field, the commitment to

1207
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: one another, uh, developing the key fundamentals that we're gonna need.

1208
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: Playing well in the fourth quarter. I mean, that's how

1209
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 4: you build a team. That's that's that's built to win.

1210
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: So that's what we're working on.

1211
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1212
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: I know, coach, you're all about the process and we

1213
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: know it. I mean it's on the walls back at

1214
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: one Bill's Drive. But your process, when you're out there

1215
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: on the practice field as a head coach, it's hard

1216
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: not to notice. And I know you're a note taker,

1217
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 2: but even on the practice field, you're jotting stuff down

1218
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: as you know, different periods unfold and transis happen. What

1219
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: are you trying to be mindful of in the moment

1220
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: and go back to later with those kinds of notes.

1221
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to steal secrets from you. I'm

1222
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: just curious what the process is.

1223
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: No, you know, I've always done that and I think

1224
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: I learned that around some older coaches, some of my

1225
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 4: mentors back in Philadelphia years ago, and a lot of them,

1226
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola, Jim Johnson, they were taking notes also.

1227
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: And in these jobs, you have so much coming at

1228
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: you throughout the course of a day, especially as a

1229
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: head coach, that I'm gonna forget things that are key

1230
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: parts of helping us develop, whether it's coaching a coach

1231
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: or coaching a player. Making sure hey checks and balance

1232
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: on this, or tell me why we were doing this,

1233
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: or it's just important to me so that I can

1234
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 4: put my head on the pillow at night and go,

1235
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 4: you know what, I think we did what we needed

1236
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: to do to take another step today.

1237
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: What is your philosophy and how are you your staff?

1238
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: Brownie has brought it up to me and we've talked

1239
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: about it over the years. You have the ability to

1240
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: take a player and make him better every day.

1241
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: I mean the guy.

1242
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: We have a lot a ton of players on this

1243
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: roster like Matt Milano, Tarren Johnson, guys who were middle

1244
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: or even lower round picks, and you know, Christian Benford,

1245
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: guys who you know, people you know fans like that.

1246
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: We shrug our shoulders and stuf and you got you

1247
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: have made them into real, contributing NFL starting players. And

1248
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't always see that from other staffs around the league.

1249
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: What is it about your philosophy or the way you

1250
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: do things that you can share with us that helps

1251
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: these young players supersede where we think they could have gone.

1252
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think that's a great point. But

1253
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 4: the environment has to be fertile enough and just right

1254
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 4: so that we can devel so these players can develop.

1255
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: That's one. The staff, the coaching staff have to be

1256
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: great teachers, and then the development staff, the medical staff,

1257
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 4: the strength and conditioning staff, all those are key components

1258
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: of this environment right and that we're developing the players.

1259
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: Yes on the field, yes, in the meeting room, but

1260
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 4: also off the field and differ diferent ways. And so

1261
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: I think, more than anything it's the environment that we create.

1262
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: It's also they're wired the right way, most of them,

1263
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 4: at least when the DNA that they come in with

1264
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: is fertile enough that we can that we can develop them,

1265
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 4: because you've got to be coachable and sometimes you got

1266
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 4: to break through some of that pride and ego that

1267
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: gets in the way. And so I just think a

1268
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: lot of players to your point, have been homegrown mant

1269
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: Milano to name one of them. And then players that

1270
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: have come here have played their best football here. Right

1271
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying come here in terms of in the veteran manner.

1272
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 4: So I believe that that's critical. And one of our

1273
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 4: goals is that no players should go somewhere else and

1274
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 4: play better than they did when they were in the

1275
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bill uniform.

1276
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: So last one for me, the call it periods. You've

1277
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: given your coordinators opportunities to call it in practice. We

1278
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: asked Coach Babbage and his press conference the other day

1279
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: how that's gone, and he's like, I'll take anyone I

1280
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: can get because I want the reps, you know, And

1281
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: that makes sense. How do you go about reviewing those

1282
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: because I imagine when you go back to the practice

1283
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: tape and maybe you're going through all of the calls

1284
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: that he made. How do you kind of counsel him

1285
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: in those kinds of situations.

1286
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: Well, I'm fortunate that Bobby is a big time communicator,

1287
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: so he wants that feedback, even though it's not always

1288
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 4: maybe you know what he what he called, and so

1289
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: educating him coaching him along the way calling plays is

1290
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: one of the hardest things to do in this in

1291
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: this business that we're in. But then there's also another

1292
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: piece of adjusting right through the course of a game.

1293
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 4: And you can put together a good game plan and

1294
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: that takes skill, But then calling and setting up calls

1295
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: is an art. And then the adjustment and being able

1296
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: to adjust quickly in the course of a game to

1297
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 4: what's happening is also an art right, and that takes

1298
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 4: real communication, awareness, collaboration on our feet. And then halftime.

1299
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 4: People think like when I'm watching a game at halftime,

1300
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: when I'm home watching an NFL game, Uh, it seems

1301
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 4: like it's like forever. But in the real world, as

1302
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 4: you go in, you go to the bathroom because you've

1303
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: been holding it for for an hour and a half

1304
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and then you're out and you're

1305
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 4: making adjustments, and sometimes can that little argument that happens

1306
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 4: trying to say, hey, this is what we should do. No,

1307
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 4: this is what we should do. That takes some time

1308
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 4: also to work through. Then we deliver the message to

1309
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: the players that's all going to be new for me.

1310
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: How many voices are you got a headset on as

1311
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: you're a defensive coordinator. How many voices you have because

1312
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of guys because you can't see everything, right,

1313
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: You got some guys watching this, You got some guys

1314
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: watching that, and then they have to be smart enough

1315
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: no one to chime in, you know, not be and

1316
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: not just start talking about yeah, you know later on

1317
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: let's go you know you gotta got it.

1318
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 4: Well then then you gotta then you and we'll talk

1319
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 4: about that going into our first game this weekend, like

1320
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna hit that as a staff and

1321
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: say listen, Basically, it goes down like this, don't talk

1322
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 4: unless you need to talk, know your role, don't get

1323
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 4: in somebody else's lane because it can be you know,

1324
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: very hectic, and we see things come up like that

1325
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 4: all the time on the field, but also in our

1326
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 4: world anymore, with communication and like it's got to be clear,

1327
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 4: it's got to be concise, and then we got to

1328
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 4: get it to the to Josh or to to rel

1329
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: Bernard out there. So it is critical that that all

1330
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,959
Speaker 4: that has worked through and it's worked through the right way.

1331
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: Coach, we know your time is precious, so we're going

1332
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: to cut you loose here, So thanks for giving us

1333
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: some of yours here and good luck, wrap it up

1334
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: training camp and we'll see you back at One Bill's

1335
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: Drive in the not too distant future for preseason game

1336
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: number one on Saturday. All right, So that was head

1337
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott joining us, and he joined us before

1338
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: practice before he went out, right, So yeah, I mean

1339
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: it's uh, I don't know. I wanted to get a

1340
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: feel from him as to how he reviews Babbage's work

1341
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: when he essentially, you know, is got to call it

1342
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: and Babbitt, you know, for whatever he's going to do

1343
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: between now and the end of the preseason kind of

1344
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: has to show him to coach mcturmot's point that he's

1345
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 2: not only going to have a good plan going in,

1346
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: but that he can react to what the opposing offensive

1347
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: coordinator is doing with his personnel and adjust on the

1348
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: fly and have just as good a calls as he

1349
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: had going into the game. That's really and Steve, having

1350
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: lived through the drought, I can honestly say, cycling through

1351
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: as many coordinators as we did over that stretch, I

1352
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: think the one missing link for a lot of them

1353
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: was their inability to adjust in game effectively as play callers. Fortunately,

1354
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: in the McDermot era, they've had, you know, coordinators that

1355
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: have been able to make those kinds of adjustments.

1356
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 5: Right.

1357
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: I think that evolution of being able to do that

1358
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: that came after my day in the game, and I

1359
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: certainly got teams would always adjust and then it they

1360
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: would start adjusting at half you know, you make half

1361
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: time adjustments if you could, and if you could make

1362
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: that work. The key was always, particularly on the defensive side,

1363
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: was to adjust as fast as you can, as often

1364
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: as you can to get that because that helps you

1365
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: get inside the mind of the guy that's running the

1366
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: offense against you. What are they going to do? Oh,

1367
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: I see what they're doing. They're trying to do this,

1368
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to iso this.

1369
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 3: Got it?

1370
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: So you got to have a couple of things. But

1371
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: you can go to defensively, and the faster you can

1372
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: pivot and change your philosophy defensively, the better. Now, it's

1373
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: one thing to have, and the problem with McDermott got

1374
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: to it. The problem if you're a defensive coordinator, you

1375
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: might be on it, you got it, but your players

1376
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: are out there going, what we didn't you know this?

1377
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: What do we run on this?

1378
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, they don't get it, or they're not ready

1379
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: for it, or you haven't you know, installed it in

1380
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: a way that lets them execute.

1381
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: It at a high enough level. All that stuff is

1382
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 3: in the mix.

1383
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: And when McDermott said it's a little bit of an

1384
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: art form, you know, you don't want to have your

1385
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: coordinator learn just learn how.

1386
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: To pick up a brush. You know what I'm saying.

1387
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: He's trying to be an artist.

1388
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: You know, you want him to be pretty much ready

1389
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: to make those paint strokes when you're trying to make

1390
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: a work of art. Of a defensive coordinator and adjustments

1391
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: and stuff, there's so much and you get a chance

1392
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: to talk to McDermott like we did just now, you

1393
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: get an idea the levels of everything that's going on

1394
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: for a head coach and how difficult it is to

1395
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: manage everything you got to manage to win football games

1396
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: in this league. I just I shrugged my head and

1397
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: shake my head. I shrugged my shoulders and shake my head.

1398
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's unbelievable the layers of difficulty that are

1399
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: on this thing and how much collaboration there is.

1400
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: I did like hearing from him because we've sensed this

1401
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: to some degree that there is a different kind of

1402
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: communal approach to the game from this roster as a whole.

1403
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: And look, we've seen tight teams under Sean McDermott here,

1404
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: guys that genuinely love and appreciate each other and are

1405
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: willing to go battle for each other out on the

1406
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: field on the weekends. But I think coach captured it

1407
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: pretty effectively, this selfless approach. And we've heard that word

1408
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: that's kind of been a buzzword here in Bill's training camp.

1409
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: Everybody from the top to the bottom of the roster

1410
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: is pretty has been pretty selfless. They've deferred to others

1411
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: that might be getting more targets in the passing game,

1412
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: They've deferred to others who are in a better position

1413
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: to make a play defensively, and then they go and

1414
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: celebrate those successes, even though it's not a personal success,

1415
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: it's a team success. They celebrate it and it seems

1416
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: like a little thing. But we had Cameron Wolf on

1417
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: the show last week from NFL Network. He's been to

1418
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: half a dozen camps and the thing that he noticed

1419
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: the most out here was how much they celebrate big

1420
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: plays on offense or defense. He goes, you don't get

1421
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: that at every camp. You don't get that on every

1422
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: team in this league. And so I think there's something

1423
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: there that just feels different. I still maybe it is selfless.

1424
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: Maybe coach accurately described it, because I was having my

1425
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: problems deciding exactly what is it that's different about this team.

1426
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: I think it's different in a good way, a very

1427
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: healthy way. And how much does that translate to success

1428
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: on the field and victories, Well that remains to be seen.

1429
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: But what I'm seeing that's different to me is very

1430
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: very positive as this team goes forward, Because if you're

1431
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: going to play an ultimate team sport like football, I

1432
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: think the balance of your roster has to be that way, right,

1433
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: if you're going to achieve the ultimate goal.

1434
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: And it's it's an old analogy, it still holds true,

1435
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody pulling the same rope in the

1436
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: same direction. And you know me, guys, yeah, and and

1437
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: and that's that's not to say you don't have a

1438
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: couple of guys that are, you know, a little more

1439
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: gritty and a little different kind of type of dudes.

1440
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, And you and I have had long conversations

1441
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: about I think you need a handful of guys on

1442
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: an NFL team that you just hope they're not in

1443
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: jail on the day of the game.

1444
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: And I know that same guys with an edge.

1445
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: I know it.

1446
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: I know it sounds juvenile to talk like that, but

1447
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: but but basically it.

1448
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: Means they don't care about their being.

1449
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: Most people don't understand what it's like to have a

1450
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: real job. That means you've got to push somebody against

1451
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: their will, you got to argue with them physically, and

1452
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: that takes a certain mindset and a certain set of

1453
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: skills that a lot of people do not possess. But

1454
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: there are some people out there, and they are football

1455
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: players who really don't like that part of the game.

1456
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: They're not good at it. They do it, but they're

1457
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: never it's never their wheelhouse. You need some guys on

1458
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: your football team that it is their wheelhouse. They like confrontation,

1459
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: they like physical confrontation, they like chesting out to guys,

1460
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: they like you know, talking, you know, talking to the

1461
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,520
Speaker 1: other team.

1462
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 3: That they love all of it.

1463
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: If there's a fight, they they either started it or

1464
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: they're trying to get to the middle of it. They

1465
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: they they want that. That's part of who they are.

1466
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: You need some guys like that, and so, you know,

1467
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: and every team does has those guys. If you have

1468
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: if you don't have enough of those guys, you're soft

1469
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: because nobody is there to stand up for anybody. Nobody's

1470
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,440
Speaker 1: there to stop the other team from pushing you around.

1471
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: It's it's a real thing. So when you and that's

1472
01:10:55,360 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: why I'm talking about this with this camaraderie subject. It's

1473
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: all great that you're all in it together on but

1474
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: when you're really into it with each other and you're

1475
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: really in it and you are all together, all one,

1476
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: if there is any disrespect from the other team, you've

1477
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: got the water boys jumping in the fight. Everybody's in

1478
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, there is no holding you back, and it's

1479
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: a real, it is a real wee kind of thing.

1480
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: So you don't need to worry about having, you know,

1481
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: a Daryl Tally on your team, who will you know,

1482
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: jump into a meat grinder for you and come out

1483
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: the winner, you know, because everybody's going to be jumping

1484
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: in because of the camaraderie and the love and the

1485
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: love and affection and the respect you have for each other.

1486
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: It's a it's a great place to be. And this

1487
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: is a team that's I'm kind of with you. This

1488
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: the attitude of this team, it's a little further down

1489
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: the road than yeah. Right, I thought it was a

1490
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: little further down the road than I thought it would

1491
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: be just two weeks into camp.

1492
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think it's because, and maybe this is

1493
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: easy to cultivate in a situation like this. They're not

1494
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: seeing us a front running team. Nobody's picking them to

1495
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 2: do much. I mean, this is a team that's got

1496
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: four division titles under their belt and nobody's saying a

1497
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: peep about them because of how the roster is morphed

1498
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: and changed in one offseason. And look, I understand why

1499
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: the naysayers are out there. I do, but I think

1500
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: it's also galvanized this group to really kind of look

1501
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: at this thing and say it's us against everybody. Nobody

1502
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: believes in us, so we all better believe in us

1503
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: if we're going to do what we want to do.

1504
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: And I think everybody's jumped in headfirst on that. I like,

1505
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: just across the board, there is no weak link in

1506
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: terms of the bonds that this team has formulated through

1507
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: the course of training camp. And it probably started before

1508
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: that in the spring, but I think it's been it's

1509
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: gone a long way to being solidified here at Saint

1510
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: John Fisherty's past year.

1511
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: And I see and hey, I'm not gonna sit here

1512
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: and say, hey, everybody's disrespecting the Bills. I get it, man,

1513
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: you got they've got some question marks. A new defensive coordinator,

1514
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: third one in three years, a new defensive front by

1515
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: and large, Two new safeties that take over from two

1516
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: iconic safeties, all in the same year. Not just you

1517
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't lose just you. You didn't lose Poyer and then hide

1518
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: a year later or two years you lost them both

1519
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: in the same year. You lost Tredavious White and all

1520
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: pro corner Von Miller has you know, was a no

1521
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: show last year. Statistically speaking, you've got, you know, some

1522
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: draft picks that now for the first time in a

1523
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: long time you're depending on and keon Coleman, and up

1524
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: until he was injured cole Bishop.

1525
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, but you and I have been

1526
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 3: sitting around here watching this team. He got some dudes.

1527
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: They're talented, and anytime you've got the guy you've got

1528
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: taken snaps, you're gonna be in the playoff conversation.

1529
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: There's no two ways about it.

1530
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: Josh could carry this whole franchise on his back with

1531
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: less talent than it's got. Particularly, I mean, forget it

1532
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: that this offensive line. We talked to Conrad Govern today.

1533
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: This offensive line is big, deep, athletic. They're gonna be fine.

1534
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: The running backs they're gonna be fine. The tight ends

1535
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: they're going to be more than fine. The the wide

1536
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: receivers are going to be just as productive as they

1537
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: were a year ago. I mark my words. Josh may

1538
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: throw from more yards this year and he did last year.

1539
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: And they may run the ball more. Wow, they may

1540
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: have more yards rushing. I think this offense is going

1541
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: to take a big step forward. I think now, I

1542
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna do it like Saturday against

1543
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears in the preseason, but I think eventually

1544
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: They're going to be much more explosive and powerful than

1545
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: they were a year ago, just by virtue of their

1546
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: offensive line and the weapons Josh has. I just think offensively,

1547
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the questions that people don't know the

1548
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: answer to yet we've seen in too much of in camp,

1549
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: and the answers are there, so you know, yeah, this

1550
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: the camaraderie is there. This is a close knit group,

1551
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: and they have got parts of this team that are

1552
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: already fully formed and ready to win. But they're not

1553
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: one hundred percent there. Yeah, you know, I mean, we've

1554
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: got still got some things we want to see.

1555
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, we'll

1556
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: discuss the receiver pecking order. We've told you that Tyrrel

1557
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: Shavers has gone a long way and trying to solidify

1558
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: himself as one of the last two guys on that

1559
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: receiver squad. A lot of us have him pegged as

1560
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 2: receiver number five, assuming they keep six. Who's making a

1561
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: play at that number six hole. I'll give you a

1562
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: guy that I've had my eye on and think has

1563
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: stepped up recently in the last two or three days.

1564
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: We'll see if Steve has a name as well. When

1565
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live presented by a

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1572
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: told you before the break that we were going to

1573
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 2: outline the back end of the receiver depth chart, and

1574
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: the depth chart did come out, the unofficial depth chart, Steve,

1575
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: which really doesn't mean a hill of beans, even though

1576
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: people will make a lot of it, because the coaches

1577
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: don't necessarily line them up this way. It's just kind

1578
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: of an educated guess as to how the depth chart

1579
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: is going to work based on what we've seen in practice.

1580
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily carry the same weight that the coaches

1581
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 2: at but that's neither here nor there. Receiver five, A

1582
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: lot of us believe Tyrrel Shavers has done enough to

1583
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: earn that spot right now. We should not forget that

1584
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: there are three preseason games to play and a lot

1585
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: can change between now and then. I was devoid of

1586
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: a guy I liked for the number six spot. And

1587
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: again to make it clear, we're talking about Coleman, Samuel Shaquill, Shakiir,

1588
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 2: and Hollands as your top four, then I had Shavers

1589
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: as my five. A guy that has seen an uptick

1590
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: in his level of playmaking the last three or four

1591
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: practices has been kJ Hamler. He has turned in more plays,

1592
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are looking for him more. He's rotated up in

1593
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: the rotation a little bit. So I would say right now,

1594
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: going into preseason game number one on Saturday, he would

1595
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: be my number six. So my six essentially are Coleman, Samuel, Shakir, Hollins,

1596
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: and then Hamler and Shavers. That's kind of where I am.

1597
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: Has anybody else like really caught your eye or done

1598
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: something extraordinary to know?

1599
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: But the thing about Hamler, if he's gonna hang in

1600
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 1: there and be the fifth or fifth, he's a sixth

1601
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: guy like we're thinking he is. The problem with him

1602
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,799
Speaker 1: would be our guy de Kwan Hardy. He's a corner

1603
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: and he's but he's a return.

1604
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 2: Man, which is what handler is a return man too.

1605
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: Ye, So you're not gonna have a redundancy. You'll you'll

1606
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: have a dB and a wide receiver who can both

1607
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: return punts.

1608
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that, and maybe kickoffs, depending on what

1609
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: coach Smiley has in mind.

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01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know if you'd have a redundancy there

1611
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: if you'd want that, but if if they can both

1612
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: do it, I think he might be right.

1613
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 3: I think just make him interchange.

1614
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: And the way to yeah, and the way to work

1615
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: that is maybe one is up and one is down

1616
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: in a given game wink, right, you know not one

1617
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: of one of them is not always up every week

1618
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: per se. And maybe that's somebody like Hardy.

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01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll go less than six wideouts though

1621
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: on a game day.

1622
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: Unless there are four tight end zone.

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1624
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 3: We may, we may do that.

1625
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm really to me. And again, we've

1626
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: got three preseason games to play, which will give us

1627
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 2: a lot more evidence and hopefully convincing evidence. But I

1628
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: think Davidson, Zach Davidson is very quickly playing himself on

1629
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: to the roster. He's got to carry that through the

1630
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: preseason against competition. The question is does it come at

1631
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: the expense of Quentin Morris or do they make the

1632
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: tight end room bigger and just keep four. Yeah, because

1633
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: Morris does a lot of different things that Davidson and

1634
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: kin Kid do not do. You could argue Gilliam serves

1635
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: in a similar capacity in that way. But they've had

1636
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: Davidson on special teams units, not a lot of them,

1637
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 2: but he's been on there. How effective they believe.

1638
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: I William's always been the kind of the one of

1639
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: a kind guy. You know, he's the only fullback on

1640
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: the roster.

1641
01:19:59,600 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1642
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe after so many years they decide that

1643
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: they're going to do something different with that spot and

1644
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: they keep four tight ends and let the full back

1645
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: go and use a tight end or a big offensive

1646
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: lineman in that spot.

1647
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 3: It's we don't know.

1648
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: Those are decisions that have to be made, and actually

1649
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: those are decisions that are becoming apparent to Brownie and

1650
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I and others in the media that they're going to

1651
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: have to make. We always go through this, I mean,

1652
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: what are their real And that's what we always say.

1653
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: We don't know how they feel about their own guys.

1654
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: We may love the guy and think a lot of him,

1655
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: and he may be off their radar already and they're

1656
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: just waiting for a chance to cut him. But the

1657
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: way it looks to Brownie and I is they're going

1658
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: to have some decisions to make about as they always do,

1659
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: but this year is going to be tougher because they've

1660
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: got so much depth at some positions, different positions than

1661
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: they've had in the past, particularly a tight end and

1662
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: wide out. So we don't know with how many are

1663
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna make the fifty three because don't forget this all

1664
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: goes They go from ninety to fifty three and everybody's

1665
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: out the door, and then they start signing guys back

1666
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: and not all those guys.

1667
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: Sometimes can't get them available.

1668
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes they're unavailable because they're now they're playing for

1669
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: some other team.

1670
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 3: So I think this year the.

1671
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: Choices about the roster are going to be a little

1672
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: bit different than we've seen them in the past, starting

1673
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: with that tight end spot.

1674
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: There is an update on some of the guys that

1675
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: were down for practice or left practice early. It looks

1676
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: like one of the bad reporters. Joe Biscalia from The

1677
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: Athletic got confirmation of this, Dion Dawkins was excused from

1678
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: practice early for a person personal matter. His exit was

1679
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 2: not injury related, so it's good news on the injury refront.

1680
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully everything is okay with him and his family. Daikwon

1681
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: Jones day to day with a groin injury, it was

1682
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: not a veteran rest day, and defensive end Casey two

1683
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: Hill left practice with a groin injury and is now

1684
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: considered day to day. So the line's taking it on

1685
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: the chin a little bit today in practice for varying reasons.

1686
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: But that's kind of your update on that. So we'll

1687
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 2: see whether Dion's back here tomorrow or if he's still

1688
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: taking care of a personal matter, and we'll see how

1689
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: long it takes day Kwon Jones and Casey two Hill

1690
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: to get back into the practice setting. We did see

1691
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: because of those guys being out, some other guys step in.

1692
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: Ryan Vandermark, much like last year, stepped in for Dion

1693
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: Dawkins in practice in the team's setting and then on

1694
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. It was interesting to

1695
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: see in the early team sessions they rolled rookie Dwayne

1696
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: Carter in for Daikwon Jones. It has typically been Austin Johnson,

1697
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: who I think essentially is the same body type, plays

1698
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: the same position and will probably so as Daikwon Jones

1699
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: rotational backup once we get to the regular season. But

1700
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 2: as we know, this coaching staff doesn't mind trying things,

1701
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: and they basically threw Dwayne Carter in the deep end

1702
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: of the pool today to see how he would fare

1703
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: against first string competition. And he really was playing a

1704
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: little bit out of position because I think he would

1705
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: be more of the at Oliver type under tackle, more

1706
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: of a penetrator, and they put him at the one

1707
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: next to Ed. So that was kind of interesting that

1708
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: they just tossed him in. And maybe it was a

1709
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: byproduct of the down and distance they were working today.

1710
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: Maybe it was third more third down stuff. I didn't

1711
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: happen to notice that, and that would fit too, because

1712
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: he would be in on more third down situations. I

1713
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: don't think we're going to see anything super noticeable from

1714
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: some of these young players, like a Dwayne Carter upfront

1715
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: or a Casey two Hill for example, until we get

1716
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: to the preseason games, and I think that's when their

1717
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: game will kind of go up a little bit more,

1718
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: where you say, oh, there he is he flashed there. Okay,

1719
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 2: Oh he's in on the quarterback here. Oh nice move

1720
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: there to get around the you know, the guard here.

1721
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. So that's kind of what I'm looking

1722
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: forward to most with the preseason because those guys you

1723
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: know will play.

1724
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 1: I was also checking out Who've got a breeze blowing

1725
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Speaker 1: stuff over, but I was checking out Smooth today. He

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Speaker 1: to me is rotating through at a higher level as well.

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Speaker 1: I saw I noticed him on the edge a little

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Speaker 1: bit today coming off and that's something I'm gonna watch

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01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: in this preseason game to see where he falls in

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Speaker 1: the rotation because there's a lot of guys out there,

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Speaker 1: and I think this was the first day where I

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01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: got a chance to see him run a couple of

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Speaker 1: reps in a row, and I was I was really

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01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: interested see how to day he did well. I mean,

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01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 1: he's out on the outside, looked really comfortable out there.

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Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing was that I feel

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01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: like I saw him rotating through the higher group of players.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's gotten a fair amount of time with the

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: starters through training camp, and I think he's gonna be

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01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 2: a primary edgesetter. And this is why I'm of the

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01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: belief that von Miller is gonna be a situational pass rusher.

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01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: You have a guy Likedwan smooth to handle the dirty work.

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: You have a guy like Casey Twohill to handle the

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01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 2: dirty work and obvious run situations, whether it's the first

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 2: group or the rotational group. And that's what those guys

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01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 2: represent to me. You're not gonna have von Miller out there,

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01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: you know, on second and three. You're not gonna have

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: him out there on first and five. So those are

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: the guys you're gonna have on the field instead of him,

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01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: so that the thirty snaps he gets are valuable in

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01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: terms of getting a pass rush and hurrying throws or

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01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: getting quarterback hits or even better set.

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Speaker 3: You hope that's exactly the word.

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01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: It stays because if it changes just because something ahead

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01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: of him changed, Like if if Vaughn starts having to

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01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: play on first and ten, first and five, it's because

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01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: somebody went down or somebody's not playing. Well, Yeah, that's

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01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the best case scenario. It may change,

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01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: but I still, you know, even those young guys Kingsley,

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01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan and Javon Solomon are still playing well, They're still

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01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: they still look really good. Javon Solomon to me, is

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: looking better and better. I don't know, we'll see if

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01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: that continues, and I'd love to see him take some

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01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: reps in this game.

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Speaker 2: They were We had Connor mc governor on the show earlier.

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01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: We asked him about Cedric Van Praying Granger and we

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01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: saw Alec Anderson. There was some rotating up at the

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01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 2: center position during the team portions of practice today. We

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01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: saw Alec Anderson roll in there with the ones a

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: little bit at center, and then we saw Cedric Van

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01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: Prayn Granger, at least for the first time that I've

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01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: documented during training camp, go with the second unit. He

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01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 2: has largely been the third team center because they have

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01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: Will Clap here the Veterans Center where they signed away

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01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: from Los Angeles Chargers. Today, Clap played almost exclusively guard

1776
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: and he is a bigger, longer player than Van Pray

1777
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: Granger or Alec Anderson, so you would understand that move.

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01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: He's been cross training. But found it interesting that Van

1779
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: Praying Granger is now, at least in today's practice, he

1780
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: was largely the second team center, and so you wonder

1781
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: where that goes or if it's just a one day experiment.

1782
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: But that I'm gonna be keeping out.

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01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff that we're seeing now is the

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01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: strictly at a scheduled thing for camp and they're probably

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01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: going through it. Let's say let's try him here. Let

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01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: him do this early on, get his feet wet, and

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01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: then we'll start putting him in as he starts to

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01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: get some stuff under his belt, we'll start rotating him

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01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: in where we really want him to go. That may

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: be some stuff, particularly because you think about it feels

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01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: like we've been here for a month the Sundays and

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01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: it's like been two weeks and we haven't played one

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: preseason game yet.

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01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's still very early.

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01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 1: I think that has as much to do with some

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01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: of this rotational stuff as anything.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, Steve and I will

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Speaker 2: close it up with one more segment here from Saint

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Speaker 2: John Fisher at Bill's training camp on one of Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health. It's s Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: All right, So we talked to head coach Sean McDermott

1802
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: about what's different in terms of the vibe and the

1803
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: communal feel around this team. We've discussed it. Josh Allen

1804
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: addressed the media today and we played his comments. I'm

1805
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: just going to reiterate the quote that Josh made based

1806
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: on some of the stuff we've been talking about, how

1807
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: this team looks like a tighter group in a different

1808
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: and better way. Quote, the guys we have in this

1809
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: locker room are very smart and tough. I applaud Bean

1810
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: for bringing in the guys that we have, because guys

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01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: are going out there and we work hard. But at

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01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: the end of the day out in the dorms, we're

1813
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: playing video games, we're playing board games, guys are going

1814
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: out to eat, which eats with each other, and it's

1815
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 2: really a family like atmosphere. And I think there's a

1816
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: different vibe at this point with this team, and I

1817
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: think it's a really good thing.

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01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably is. But because you know this, it's

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01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a hard regular season. Yeah, tough schedule, four

1820
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: time defending division title, a lot of turnover. They're gonna

1821
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: have to get it together and it's gonna go through

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01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 1: some dark times.

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Speaker 2: This may help one more day here at training camp tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: we'll see at one