Speaker 1: On today's episode, it's news.
Speaker 2: We're talking Predator comebacks, We're talking Ryan Coogler, Sinners, We're
Speaker 2: talking about a comic adaptation of Begelopolis, hell Out and more. Hello,
Speaker 2: what it was? Jason CANTEMSI own Mercy Night, and welcome
Speaker 2: back to xt ver vision of the podcast When We
Speaker 2: Dive Deep is your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture,
Speaker 2: comedy from my our podcast We're Wearing You, three episodes
Speaker 2: a week every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, plus every.
Speaker 1: Vision of the news. The news here, the news and
Speaker 1: the news. The news.
Speaker 3: We tease them.
Speaker 1: If we teasted them, we teased them.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the news. First up, new trailer for folks.
Speaker 2: You thought the ip was going incorrect ray you were
Speaker 2: wondering what's gonna happen with the Predator series.
Speaker 3: We'll get The Preder series is here and it.
Speaker 2: Is intersecting with its alien centric U Tani lore in
Speaker 2: more and more interesting ways. The trailer for Predator Badlands
Speaker 2: is out there now, starring El Fanning. Is some sort
Speaker 2: of whaland Utani terminator. This looks very exciting.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm very excited about this.
Speaker 5: In case you don't know the general plot it's basically
Speaker 5: a predator is sent out for his first hunt and
Speaker 5: he ends up being on a planet where he is
Speaker 5: actually the one who is hunted, and it's all these
Speaker 5: different aliens and creatures and people who come to hunt
Speaker 5: on the island. It looks like maybe he's gonna team
Speaker 5: up with el Fanning, who as Me and Carmen we're
Speaker 5: very excited to see has the whalen U Tani logo
Speaker 5: in Aha eyes, just like Andy from Alien Romulus. So
Speaker 5: I think we're definitely getting connections back there to the
Speaker 5: kind of AVP era predator versus Alien. Wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 5: if I saw as animorph pop up in the final movie. Also,
Speaker 5: very interestingly, because there has been talk for a long
Speaker 5: time about how there was an unmade predator anime series
Speaker 5: from about ten years ago. We still don't know what
Speaker 5: the status of that is, but it has been talked about.
Speaker 5: But I thought it's very interesting that they also announced
Speaker 5: a predator killer of Killer's animated show. And this is
Speaker 5: by the same guy who made Prey, who has now
Speaker 5: basically been given the keys to the Predator ip and
Speaker 5: it is about predators throughout history, like going up against
Speaker 5: the most sickest fighters and you know what sounds like
Speaker 5: a ten year old pitched it and I fucking want
Speaker 5: to watch that. Shit? Do I want to watch him
Speaker 5: fight like some Tudor guy jousting. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 5: if that's going to be in it, but I would
Speaker 5: like to see that, you know. I think it's gonna
Speaker 5: be really fun. Can't wait for this. We're obviously big
Speaker 5: Alien fans here and Predator as well. Also, if you
Speaker 5: are a Predator lover, definitely check out the Spider Man
Speaker 5: predat ecomic that's coming out at the moment from Marvel.
Speaker 5: It is brutal as hell. It's so gory. It's really
Speaker 5: wild to see a Spider Man story like that. So yeah,
Speaker 5: if you're a monst the lover, it's gonna be a
Speaker 5: good summer for us.
Speaker 2: Up next, a Wonderful Earth Day teaser trailer for the
Speaker 2: new project Alien Earth. This teaser trailer, voiced by Neil
Speaker 2: de grasse Tyson, makes it seem as if you were
Speaker 2: about to watch one of these wonderful kind of like
Speaker 2: nature documentaries, but no, this is as becomes clear in
Speaker 2: the final seconds of the teaser. A promo for an
Speaker 2: upcoming show about an Alien Invasion of Earth, starring a
Speaker 2: wonderful cast includes Alex Lothor, Timothy Olafan S Davis, Samuel Blinken, Babousis.
Speaker 1: And more and more.
Speaker 2: And this was a very hooky trailer that I'm excited
Speaker 2: to to watch more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is also like a Noah Hawley show. So
Speaker 5: if you're a Legion guy, be excited. You know, I
Speaker 5: think this is great. I don't think it's a coincidence
Speaker 5: that we're getting new Predator and new Alien. I think
Speaker 5: that crossover is probably gonna work. Also, I love that
Speaker 5: at the end of the PSA it was like go
Speaker 5: to IGN and I was like, I go there every day.
Speaker 4: I work there. What do you want from me?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Do I need to?
Speaker 5: And it was actually a very cool world guide for
Speaker 5: ALIENA So definitely check that out.
Speaker 4: Also, this is gonna be interesting because my understanding.
Speaker 5: Is this is the earliest timeline that we're gonna have
Speaker 5: seen in the whalen Utanni alien space.
Speaker 4: It happens about you know it just.
Speaker 5: In the future and before the iconic Nostromo incident as
Speaker 5: we will call it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we're eating good.
Speaker 5: I absolutely love his animorph My dream is to go
Speaker 5: to the hi our Geygabar in Sweden or in Switzerland
Speaker 5: if anyone wants to hook me up there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, very fun. Can't wait.
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break and we'll be read.
Speaker 2: Back and we're back. Sinners blowing up at the box
Speaker 2: of Wow. Wow, Wow Wow. The film opened over the
Speaker 2: weekend to a cool forty eight million massive critical acclaim.
Speaker 3: I believe it's at ninety.
Speaker 5: It's actually they think it's hit one hundred million because
Speaker 5: they had an unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Tuesday and Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, word of mouth is really blowing it up.
Speaker 4: Word of mouth is real.
Speaker 5: And also this is very interesting because I've never seen
Speaker 5: something like this work this way before. So they think
Speaker 5: it made over eight million dollars on Tuesday, cheap movie Day,
Speaker 5: which is crazy. And then they think it made another
Speaker 5: on Wednesday, like eight or nine million, which again on
Speaker 5: her of and that's full price tickets. But the reason
Speaker 5: is Ryan Coogler and Warner Brothers came up with this
Speaker 5: very interesting and clever scheme, which is they if you
Speaker 5: went to see Sinners from the twenty third of April,
Speaker 5: so this is to encourage you to go and see
Speaker 5: it again. And this next weekend, they are giving away
Speaker 5: film reel from the movie and people can collect it's
Speaker 5: seventy milimeter film reel. So people are going absolutely wild,
Speaker 5: and it's been so fun to see people online going,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I have to see this in Imax.
Speaker 4: I have to see this at the Vista. I have
Speaker 4: to see it.
Speaker 5: I recently I did yet see it in true imax,
Speaker 5: because I'm a true Imax lover, but I recently went
Speaker 5: see it at the Alamo draft House, relatively small screen
Speaker 5: with a couple of friends, and it was just as incredible.
Speaker 4: I would just say, just keep going.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: The big other.
Speaker 5: News here that me and Jason wanted to talk about
Speaker 5: is it has come out in some very ridiculous kind
Speaker 5: of trade news that tried to make it see like
Speaker 5: a bad thing. That Ryan Cougler, specifically for this film,
Speaker 5: which is very much about the notion of black ownership
Speaker 5: and black freedom, he basically said to whoever was gonna
Speaker 5: get it, like, not only did he want his dollar gross,
Speaker 5: which he has been getting at from every dollar, not
Speaker 5: waiting until the movie is done, but also he gets
Speaker 5: to own it in twenty five years. In twenty five years,
Speaker 5: the copyright will lapse and it will go back to him.
Speaker 5: And interestingly, like the only other person who's done this
Speaker 5: is Quentin Tarantino and that was also like for his
Speaker 5: later stage movies.
Speaker 4: So this is a huge moment.
Speaker 5: Variety is trying to act like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 5: be bad for studios, but I loved the quote from
Speaker 5: Michael de lucam Abdy, who work at Warner Brothers as
Speaker 5: the execs, and they were basically like, if you think
Speaker 5: this is.
Speaker 4: A bad idea, you're stupid.
Speaker 5: Like Ryan Kugler is a genius, and we love that
Speaker 5: we gave him this deal.
Speaker 4: We love we gave him this movie, and it seems
Speaker 4: like it's paying off.
Speaker 5: Also, ninety eight percent on Rotten Toma and an A
Speaker 5: Cinema School, which is the first time any horror movie
Speaker 5: has had an A Cinema score. So the word of
Speaker 5: mouth and legs on this is going to be long, long, long.
Speaker 2: So the reason that you know this is being looked
Speaker 2: at with alarm in some industry circles is that you know,
Speaker 2: the whole game in entertainment is to build a library,
Speaker 2: yes exam to have whether it's your Paramounts, your Netflix,
Speaker 2: your Apple TV plus whatever, create shows and movies that
Speaker 2: will live on their platform that will be part of
Speaker 2: the reason that people sign up, and that a deal
Speaker 2: like this Coogler's Neil potentially, you know, throws a wrench
Speaker 2: in that works. I'll just say that, like, I kind
Speaker 2: of obviously there's the whole ethical and moral issue about
Speaker 2: like creator owning the stuff that they own. But I
Speaker 2: also feel like, what's again, so Tarantino has this, he's
Speaker 2: not and Tarantino's not the first.
Speaker 3: There's been others, just rare.
Speaker 2: There's been a it's a small handful of people. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, honestly confused why some are so like up
Speaker 2: in arms and saying this could destroy the industry when
Speaker 2: this has been done before.
Speaker 5: It's because one, it's because Ryan Coogler is a black director.
Speaker 5: That's like, let's be real. And also I think that
Speaker 5: the other aspect of it is like there's never been
Speaker 5: a more obsessed with IP time in cinema and in
Speaker 5: the industry, and this idea of having a catalog and
Speaker 5: needing a catalog so you can have a streaming service,
Speaker 5: so you can sell your catalog in the future to
Speaker 5: Amazon like MGM, did you know? But the funny thing
Speaker 5: is as well, We're living in an era where sometimes
Speaker 5: execs are just trash in a movie and not even
Speaker 5: letting it be released.
Speaker 4: So you're already.
Speaker 5: Impacting your in your your catalog with choices like that.
Speaker 5: So I think it's all kind of overblown. And I
Speaker 5: think that now it's hit one hundred mil. The budget
Speaker 5: was around ninety mil, and then you add your market,
Speaker 5: it probably goes up to like one hundred and fifty mil,
Speaker 5: as my guess, and it's already made one hundred mil
Speaker 5: just domestically. I think it's gonna be fine. Also, I'm
Speaker 5: very interested to see and we'll talk about this at
Speaker 5: some point next week, because we keep it a lot
Speaker 5: of eyes on, like how much does the weekly drop off?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: And we know with Marvel recently we've been having these
Speaker 5: huge sixty seven percent drop offs, Like the word of
Speaker 5: mouth is not there. They think that this weekend Sinners
Speaker 5: is gonna make forty million dollars and.
Speaker 4: It opened to forty eight million dollars.
Speaker 5: If that is the case, it is gonna be one
Speaker 5: of the lowest, if not the lowest weekend drops of
Speaker 5: all time. So everything you're doing here, Warner Brothers, you're
Speaker 5: killing it. Ryan Coogler, You're doing such a great job
Speaker 5: of getting people back in the cinemas. I've been seeing
Speaker 5: people complaining about sold out screenings all over the country
Speaker 5: and how it's hard to get a ticket to see
Speaker 5: it in that new format.
Speaker 4: So I just I think it's good for cinema.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna end up being seen as a
Speaker 5: great deal, an important deal. And also Ryan Coogler said
Speaker 5: he just wanted it for this movie. He said, he's
Speaker 5: not gonna ask you that deal again, you know. And
Speaker 5: Joelle had said she thinks Warner Brothers might be priming
Speaker 5: him to be that kind of new Nolan.
Speaker 4: Now Nolan is.
Speaker 5: At University, I would love to see them keep investing
Speaker 5: in him because it's kind of hard to put into
Speaker 5: words how different and unique that movie really is.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like, listen, here's he's got a billion
Speaker 2: dollar movie under his belt, and now he's got Sinners,
Speaker 2: which is continuing to rocket in terms of box office,
Speaker 2: and let's face it, like this is dollars business and
Speaker 2: he's bringing it in. So yes, I agree. I hope
Speaker 2: they continue this and it makes sense for them. Up
Speaker 2: next in Shocking.
Speaker 5: Wilds Wild Shoes, Blowing my fucking bye.
Speaker 2: Jacob Phillips, the son of Sean Phillips of hell Blazer
Speaker 2: and Wildcats and Criminal, you know, like same and Criminal,
Speaker 2: one of the you know, one of the lights of
Speaker 2: a certain generation of UK comics creators.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Indie and also like if you watch, like if
Speaker 5: you read an image book, this is man that you
Speaker 5: know and care about. He's done a great job actually,
Speaker 5: like kind of honing Jacob. Jacob has colored some of
Speaker 5: his comics. Then Jacob went into writing and somehow he
Speaker 5: got this gig.
Speaker 2: His son, Jacob is finishing up work on a adaptation
Speaker 2: of Francis Ford Coppola's Insane three Hour.
Speaker 3: Disaster.
Speaker 2: Magnum Magnum Doopah's megalois it, and it's almost done and
Speaker 2: it will be released soon and it is He's just
Speaker 2: announced it to the world.
Speaker 1: And this is truly one of those things where I'm like.
Speaker 4: Wait, what my mind. Also, this is like so funny
Speaker 4: because it's so comicsy because he's.
Speaker 5: The guy who he's adapting it with, Chris Ryle is
Speaker 5: like an old DW guy who was in charge of
Speaker 5: a DW. So it just feels very like in in
Speaker 5: the weeds, in kind of inside baseball.
Speaker 4: I also won.
Speaker 5: Jacob is like an unreal yet like everything he draws
Speaker 5: is fucking amazing, And I love the idea that Jacob
Speaker 5: said he never saw the movie, he never saw any footage,
Speaker 5: and he's been working on this since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: He only read scripts and reviewed concepts.
Speaker 5: Are is this going to become like an eyes in
Speaker 5: the winning fantastic graphic novel? Is this the format that
Speaker 5: Megalopolis was always supposed to be in?
Speaker 4: This is just.
Speaker 5: Blowing my mind and I will be reading that one
Speaker 5: hundred and forty eight page graphic novels no question.
Speaker 3: In absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: Up next, Paedro Pascal gives us more reason to love him.
Speaker 4: Oh I love him.
Speaker 1: See he It was.
Speaker 2: Photographed wearing a Protect Doll shirt at the premiere of
Speaker 2: the Thunderbolts movie, and then was quoted as.
Speaker 3: Asked for comment about JK.
Speaker 2: Rowling's ongoing activism to strip trans women in the UK
Speaker 2: of their rights and safety protections, to which Pedro Pascal
Speaker 2: replied that JK is a heinous said it was cainus
Speaker 2: loser behavior.
Speaker 4: I love that so much, Pedro, We love you. Also.
Speaker 5: Carmen wrote a great little context here because I did
Speaker 5: get a few different people saying, hey, what does that mean?
Speaker 5: Protect the dolls? Like everyone's really excited about it. So
Speaker 5: Carmen wrote, our super producer wrote a great little bit here,
Speaker 5: which is it's important to note that the term doll
Speaker 5: is used to describe high femme passing trans women originating
Speaker 5: in the Borham community, who are the primary targets of
Speaker 5: anti trans hate and violence. The statement intends to highlight
Speaker 5: the most at risk and disenfranchised of the Lodge trans community.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing, you all want to protect the
Speaker 5: doll shirt now, I know I've had the dms. Well,
Speaker 5: Carmen found out where they really are from, not the bootlegs,
Speaker 5: not the tea publics, not the AI versions. If you
Speaker 5: purchase it from the retailer connor Ibes, your purchase then
Speaker 5: supports the trans Lifeline project. And you can obviously just
Speaker 5: donate directly to charity, or how about you just send
Speaker 5: some money to a doll in your life, because tough
Speaker 5: times are tough. And I think Pedro is amazing, and
Speaker 5: I love that he's just on Twitter like replying to
Speaker 5: people that yeah, heinus fucking loose the behavior and that
Speaker 5: shit is a headline, and he's proud of it.
Speaker 2: And finally, George R. Martin, after it's written here that
Speaker 2: it's been thirteen years since his last book. I think
Speaker 2: it's actually been fifteen. I want to I want to
Speaker 2: change that. Whoever wrote you know what.
Speaker 5: That's why he's he keeps saying thirteen, but he's playing
Speaker 5: it down.
Speaker 2: It's been fifteen years by my count. Harvard Left released
Speaker 2: a book in his Song of Ion Fire series. The
Speaker 2: book titled The Dance of Dragons, released in twenty ten.
Speaker 2: I want to say a summer of twenty ten, and
Speaker 2: in a recent Time magazine interview, George said that he
Speaker 2: is indeed quote still working on oh and then and
Speaker 2: then continued that the book is quote that's the curse
Speaker 2: of my life. Here, he continues, there's no doubt Winds
Speaker 2: of Winter is thirteen. Again, it's fifteen years late. I'm
Speaker 2: still working on it. I've apperiods where I make progress
Speaker 2: and others and others when things divert my attention end quote.
Speaker 2: The curse of my life is crazy.
Speaker 3: Let me I should just say, George, hire writers room,
Speaker 3: man bro you can do it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes right on the edit and get get
Speaker 2: Get three goal strikes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do it.
Speaker 5: Bro also as well, I will say super producer Aboo
Speaker 5: as always fact checking us. So Jason, you and you
Speaker 5: and Georgia basically right in the middle. It was actually
Speaker 5: published in July twenty eleven, so it's fourteen years.
Speaker 4: He's playing it like it's thirteen.
Speaker 2: And all feeling your feeling us steal like suck get it,
Speaker 2: comments like Andy Wall could have taught Hm a thing
Speaker 2: or two.
Speaker 5: Get writers from Guess Studio, pay those people a lot
Speaker 5: of money and make this book come. Honestly, I love
Speaker 5: this is the kind of catty, hilarious shit that I
Speaker 5: love when creatives say. It's like, it's like you're a multimillionaire.
Speaker 5: You've got mad franchises, you even got like Dark Wind.
Speaker 5: You're producing one of the best TV shows right now,
Speaker 5: even though Game of Thrones is not on your House
Speaker 5: of the Dragon, and all of it is because of
Speaker 5: your writing.
Speaker 3: But now, when's the winter is the curse of his life?
Speaker 5: And you know what, just.
Speaker 2: Hire just hire some folks to hire people.
Speaker 4: Hire some people.
Speaker 5: But I love it because it's also very relatable because
Speaker 5: that's how I feel any time I won the deadline
Speaker 5: for a book.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, why did I.
Speaker 3: Accept this deadline for fourteen years?
Speaker 4: He's been on deadline for fourteen years.
Speaker 5: The one thing that always cracks me up, that we
Speaker 5: always say is like, what's the only thing worse than
Speaker 5: your project not getting picked up?
Speaker 4: It's your project getting picked up. And I think that
Speaker 4: is That's what Georgia L. Martin is living through right now.
Speaker 4: He's like, I just cannot going.
Speaker 1: To curse the curse of my life.
Speaker 3: Oh my God, take it. Please smoke a joint, my guy.
Speaker 2: On the next week's episodes of X Ray Vision, we're
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