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Speaker 1: On today's episode, it's news.

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Speaker 2: We're talking Predator comebacks, We're talking Ryan Coogler, Sinners, We're

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Speaker 2: talking about a comic adaptation of Begelopolis, hell Out and more. Hello,

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Speaker 2: what it was? Jason CANTEMSI own Mercy Night, and welcome

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Speaker 2: back to xt ver vision of the podcast When We

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Speaker 2: Dive Deep is your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture,

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Speaker 2: comedy from my our podcast We're Wearing You, three episodes

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Speaker 2: a week every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, plus every.

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Speaker 1: Vision of the news. The news here, the news and

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Speaker 1: the news. The news.

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Speaker 3: We tease them.

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Speaker 1: If we teasted them, we teased them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the news. First up, new trailer for folks.

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Speaker 2: You thought the ip was going incorrect ray you were

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Speaker 2: wondering what's gonna happen with the Predator series.

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Speaker 3: We'll get The Preder series is here and it.

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Speaker 2: Is intersecting with its alien centric U Tani lore in

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Speaker 2: more and more interesting ways. The trailer for Predator Badlands

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Speaker 2: is out there now, starring El Fanning. Is some sort

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Speaker 2: of whaland Utani terminator. This looks very exciting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm very excited about this.

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Speaker 5: In case you don't know the general plot it's basically

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Speaker 5: a predator is sent out for his first hunt and

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Speaker 5: he ends up being on a planet where he is

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Speaker 5: actually the one who is hunted, and it's all these

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Speaker 5: different aliens and creatures and people who come to hunt

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Speaker 5: on the island. It looks like maybe he's gonna team

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Speaker 5: up with el Fanning, who as Me and Carmen we're

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Speaker 5: very excited to see has the whalen U Tani logo

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Speaker 5: in Aha eyes, just like Andy from Alien Romulus. So

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Speaker 5: I think we're definitely getting connections back there to the

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Speaker 5: kind of AVP era predator versus Alien. Wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 5: if I saw as animorph pop up in the final movie. Also,

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Speaker 5: very interestingly, because there has been talk for a long

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Speaker 5: time about how there was an unmade predator anime series

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Speaker 5: from about ten years ago. We still don't know what

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Speaker 5: the status of that is, but it has been talked about.

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Speaker 5: But I thought it's very interesting that they also announced

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Speaker 5: a predator killer of Killer's animated show. And this is

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Speaker 5: by the same guy who made Prey, who has now

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Speaker 5: basically been given the keys to the Predator ip and

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Speaker 5: it is about predators throughout history, like going up against

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Speaker 5: the most sickest fighters and you know what sounds like

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Speaker 5: a ten year old pitched it and I fucking want

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Speaker 5: to watch that. Shit? Do I want to watch him

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Speaker 5: fight like some Tudor guy jousting. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 5: be really fun. Can't wait for this. We're obviously big

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Speaker 5: Alien fans here and Predator as well. Also, if you

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Speaker 5: are a Predator lover, definitely check out the Spider Man

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Speaker 5: predat ecomic that's coming out at the moment from Marvel.

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Speaker 5: It is brutal as hell. It's so gory. It's really

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Speaker 5: wild to see a Spider Man story like that. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: if you're a monst the lover, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 5: good summer for us.

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Speaker 2: Up next, a Wonderful Earth Day teaser trailer for the

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Speaker 2: new project Alien Earth. This teaser trailer, voiced by Neil

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Speaker 2: de grasse Tyson, makes it seem as if you were

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Speaker 2: about to watch one of these wonderful kind of like

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Speaker 2: nature documentaries, but no, this is as becomes clear in

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Speaker 2: the final seconds of the teaser. A promo for an

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Speaker 2: upcoming show about an Alien Invasion of Earth, starring a

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Speaker 2: wonderful cast includes Alex Lothor, Timothy Olafan S Davis, Samuel Blinken, Babousis.

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Speaker 1: And more and more.

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Speaker 2: And this was a very hooky trailer that I'm excited

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is also like a Noah Hawley show. So

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Speaker 5: think this is great. I don't think it's a coincidence

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Speaker 5: that we're getting new Predator and new Alien. I think

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Speaker 5: to IGN and I was like, I go there every day.

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Speaker 4: I work there. What do you want from me?

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Speaker 5: And it was actually a very cool world guide for

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Speaker 4: Also, this is gonna be interesting because my understanding.

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Speaker 5: In the future and before the iconic Nostromo incident as

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we're eating good.

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Speaker 2: Back and we're back. Sinners blowing up at the box

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Speaker 2: of Wow. Wow, Wow Wow. The film opened over the

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Speaker 2: weekend to a cool forty eight million massive critical acclaim.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's at ninety.

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Speaker 5: It's actually they think it's hit one hundred million because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, word of mouth is really blowing it up.

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Speaker 4: Word of mouth is real.

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Speaker 5: And also this is very interesting because I've never seen

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Speaker 5: it made over eight million dollars on Tuesday, cheap movie Day,

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Speaker 5: her of and that's full price tickets. But the reason

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Speaker 5: is Ryan Coogler and Warner Brothers came up with this

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Speaker 5: very interesting and clever scheme, which is they if you

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Speaker 5: went to see Sinners from the twenty third of April,

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Speaker 5: so this is to encourage you to go and see

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Speaker 5: it again. And this next weekend, they are giving away

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Speaker 5: film reel from the movie and people can collect it's

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Speaker 5: seventy milimeter film reel. So people are going absolutely wild,

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Speaker 5: and it's been so fun to see people online going,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, I have to see this in Imax.

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Speaker 5: I recently I did yet see it in true imax,

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Speaker 4: I would just say, just keep going.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 5: a bad thing. That Ryan Cougler, specifically for this film,

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Speaker 5: And interestingly, like the only other person who's done this

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Speaker 4: So this is a huge moment.

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Speaker 5: Variety is trying to act like, oh, this is gonna

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Speaker 5: Michael de lucam Abdy, who work at Warner Brothers as

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Speaker 4: A bad idea, you're stupid.

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Speaker 5: Like Ryan Kugler is a genius, and we love that

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Speaker 4: We love we gave him this movie, and it seems

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Speaker 5: Also, ninety eight percent on Rotten Toma and an A

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Speaker 2: So the reason that you know this is being looked

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Speaker 2: the whole game in entertainment is to build a library,

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Speaker 2: yes exam to have whether it's your Paramounts, your Netflix,

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Speaker 2: like this Coogler's Neil potentially, you know, throws a wrench

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Speaker 2: of obviously there's the whole ethical and moral issue about

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Speaker 5: It's because one, it's because Ryan Coogler is a black director.

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Speaker 5: That's like, let's be real. And also I think that

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Speaker 5: So I think it's all kind of overblown. And I

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Speaker 5: think that now it's hit one hundred mil. The budget

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Speaker 5: And we know with Marvel recently we've been having these

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Speaker 5: mouth is not there. They think that this weekend Sinners

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Speaker 4: It opened to forty eight million dollars.

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Speaker 5: If that is the case, it is gonna be one

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Speaker 5: of the lowest, if not the lowest weekend drops of

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Speaker 5: all time. So everything you're doing here, Warner Brothers, you're

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Speaker 5: killing it. Ryan Coogler, You're doing such a great job

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Speaker 5: of getting people back in the cinemas. I've been seeing

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Speaker 4: So I just I think it's good for cinema.

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna end up being seen as a

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Speaker 5: great deal, an important deal. And also Ryan Coogler said

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Speaker 5: he just wanted it for this movie. He said, he's

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Speaker 5: Joelle had said she thinks Warner Brothers might be priming

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Speaker 4: Now Nolan is.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like, listen, here's he's got a billion

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Speaker 5: Wilds Wild Shoes, Blowing my fucking bye.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Indie and also like if you watch, like if

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Speaker 2: His son, Jacob is finishing up work on a adaptation

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Speaker 2: Magnum Magnum Doopah's megalois it, and it's almost done and

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Speaker 5: The guy who he's adapting it with, Chris Ryle is

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Speaker 5: Blowing my mind and I will be reading that one

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Speaker 3: In absolutely insane.

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Speaker 2: Up next, Paedro Pascal gives us more reason to love him.

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Speaker 4: Oh I love him.

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Speaker 1: See he It was.

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Speaker 4: I love that so much, Pedro, We love you. Also.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing, you all want to protect the

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Speaker 5: Carmen found out where they really are from, not the bootlegs,

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Speaker 5: not the tea publics, not the AI versions. If you

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Speaker 5: supports the trans Lifeline project. And you can obviously just

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Speaker 2: And finally, George R. Martin, after it's written here that

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Speaker 2: It's been fifteen years by my count. Harvard Left released

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Speaker 2: The curse of my life is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Let me I should just say, George, hire writers room,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes right on the edit and get get

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Speaker 2: Get three goal strikes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do it.

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Speaker 5: this is the kind of catty, hilarious shit that I

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Speaker 5: love when creatives say. It's like, it's like you're a multimillionaire.

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Speaker 3: But now, when's the winter is the curse of his life?

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Speaker 5: And you know what, just.

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Speaker 2: Hire just hire some folks to hire people.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I just cannot going.

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Speaker 1: To curse the curse of my life.

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Speaker 3: Oh my God, take it. Please smoke a joint, my guy.

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