Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend, everybody. It's
Speaker 1: our two on this Monday, Dan and The dan 's
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Charles Barkley will join us. A few
Speaker 1: things to talk to Charles about more than a few things.
Speaker 1: You got the Live tour, the possibility of him joining
Speaker 1: the Live Tour, but also the somewhat breaking news maybe
Speaker 1: it's spraining news. Woag had a bomb this morning where
Speaker 1: he said that the Celtics reached down to the Nets
Speaker 1: about the possibility of Jalen Brown and some players for
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. Just feels like it's a exploratory conversation here,
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like anything is pending, and you have different
Speaker 1: reports here on just how serious the talks are. Now.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind there's also a report that the Miami
Speaker 1: Heat have had internal discussions about trading Bam out of
Speaker 1: Bio to the Nets for Kevin Durant, which isn't possible
Speaker 1: because you have Ben Simmons and they have similar contracts.
Speaker 1: So you can't have two of those types of contracts
Speaker 1: on the same team unless there's a third team involved
Speaker 1: in this. That can't happen. You can have all the
Speaker 1: internal discussions you want, but the Nets would then have
Speaker 1: to move Ben Simmons. This seems like it is real.
Speaker 1: I don't know how far down the road they are.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to give up Jaylen Brown, you're
Speaker 1: gonna give up maybe Marcus Smart, maybe you give up
Speaker 1: Robert Williams and some draft picks for Kevin Durant. Well,
Speaker 1: if I'm the Nets, I'm gonna wait a little while.
Speaker 1: I'm not in any hurry right now. I'd like to
Speaker 1: wait maybe three weeks. Let me see where you stand
Speaker 1: with your roster. How do you feel about your roster?
Speaker 1: And same for the other teams. I mean, if I'm
Speaker 1: the Celtics, the Celtics are the favorites to win the
Speaker 1: championship this year according to DraftKings. So why do I
Speaker 1: need Kevin Durant? Wonder full player, one of the top
Speaker 1: fifteen players of all time? Do I give up Jalen
Speaker 1: Brown because I know I'm not going to resign him
Speaker 1: in two years? Okay, you brought him Malcolm Brogden love
Speaker 1: that got a little depth there, got an actual point guard.
Speaker 1: Do you give up Marcus Smart? Who else do you
Speaker 1: give up? Here? And now? I've got Jason Tatum, I've
Speaker 1: got Kevin durand what else do I have around you?
Speaker 1: That's the key? Do you still have enough to be
Speaker 1: better than the Milwaukee Bucks? Are you better than the
Speaker 1: Miami Heat? Are you better than the Sixers? Just to
Speaker 1: start in the East. Yeah. See, Paul had a good
Speaker 1: point earlier too, where he said, yeah, Bop, there's no
Speaker 1: guarantee that you're going to have Kevin Durant in two years.
Speaker 1: Little own Jaylen Brown, Well, he's got a four year deal.
Speaker 1: He has a four year deal with the Nets. You know,
Speaker 1: like that, and he's not. It doesn't fear. I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is as risky it is to try
Speaker 1: to hold onto Jalen Brown if you're the Celtics, that
Speaker 1: he might not on a deal. You could acquire Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant and two years from now he'd like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be here anymore. That is true with player
Speaker 1: empowerment here. He's more likely if I'm the Nats, I
Speaker 1: hold onto Kevin Durant, get rid of Kyrie, hold on
Speaker 1: to Kevin Durant, and then see what you can have.
Speaker 1: Let KD actually establish himself on his own two he
Speaker 1: wanted everything here he got Kyrie, or Kyrie got kde
Speaker 1: you got Steve Nash there. You made all the moves
Speaker 1: at least that you wanted that you needed didn't work out.
Speaker 1: How about you just stay and let's see what pieces
Speaker 1: you could get to add to it. But if you
Speaker 1: go to the Celtics, the Celtics are then depleted. Any
Speaker 1: team you go to, if you're Kevin Durant, you're going
Speaker 1: to deplete them. Rudy Gobert at least went to the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves. They gave up draft picks, so you still
Speaker 1: have the core there that's going to be a playoff
Speaker 1: team this year. If Kevin goes to Phoenix or Miami
Speaker 1: or Boston, you're gonna have to give up a lot.
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Nets, I would I would love
Speaker 1: to just say, hey, here's the deal. You want Kevin,
Speaker 1: we want Jason Tatum. Click, because that's what you're gonna hear.
Speaker 1: On the other end from the Boston Celtics, Jaylen Brown
Speaker 1: is a nice player, potentially a great player, played well
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But Kevin Durant, you'd be saying, basically,
Speaker 1: here you go, Celtics, go win a championship. I need
Speaker 1: a little bit more in return than that. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: do you have any question marks about Jason Tatum? Now?
Speaker 1: After the way he ended last year? I thought, and
Speaker 1: I said this, we were expecting too much. We expected
Speaker 1: him to be a great player. And I said it
Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times that it felt
Speaker 1: like we were He was in the easy pass lane
Speaker 1: going right to the Hall of Fame and playoff basketball
Speaker 1: is just different. Now you're the focus. Now every game
Speaker 1: is magnified. Now everybody's watching you know, every move that
Speaker 1: you make, asking you about it. Hey, what happened? Hey
Speaker 1: what happened? Hey you know you didn't do this? Hey, turnover?
Speaker 1: You're setting the all time record in so everything is magnifying.
Speaker 1: He's twenty four years of age. I thought that they
Speaker 1: were asking too much. I thought the Celtics were a
Speaker 1: year ahead of schedule, and even though they got to
Speaker 1: the finals, it felt like they were a year ahead
Speaker 1: of schedule because they lack the maturity when you needed
Speaker 1: that down the stretch. You lack that. You needed somebody
Speaker 1: who knew what to do with the ball when you
Speaker 1: need them to get a basket, not make a turnover.
Speaker 1: But Jason Tatum. I love what that future holds for him,
Speaker 1: but I thought that it was unfair to put him
Speaker 1: in a category of he's amongst the five best or
Speaker 1: whatever players in the NBA right now. Yeah, more in
Speaker 1: ten years. It seems like this might be one of
Speaker 1: those twenty twelve thunder and five magic, Like they they're
Speaker 1: so young. They got to the finals, but they lost,
Speaker 1: and look what they can do. And you know, they
Speaker 1: trade Jaylen Brown and in ten years will be saying, god,
Speaker 1: they were twenty four and twenty five. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: blew it up. Yeah. I don't know how Jalen Brown
Speaker 1: takes this because that would be like, you know, do
Speaker 1: you walk in do you call somebody and you say,
Speaker 1: am I expendable? And that's where the Celtics might you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that conversation be like with Brad Stevens.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, okay, we all are, aren't we? I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: who here really is safe? I mean, hey, I think
Speaker 1: every day every day I might be cut, But then
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown can go, well, Jason Tatum is not expendable?
Speaker 1: What that guy's not expendable? Why I expendable that guy? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: but it depends what he thinks of himself. If he
Speaker 1: considers himself one A and one B as far as
Speaker 1: him and Tatum as opposed to one and then just
Speaker 1: below him, that's a that's a big tale as to
Speaker 1: where he thinks he should be as far as staying
Speaker 1: with the team. I just don't know if if he's
Speaker 1: capable of being the guy on a team because he
Speaker 1: came out of cow and not many people knew about him,
Speaker 1: and it felt like he was at a high end
Speaker 1: level two guy. I don't know if he's a one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's one of those guys you're
Speaker 1: gonna build around. But he's just a really good player.
Speaker 1: He might be Chris Middleton in Milwaukee and and there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. He's an All Star. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to trade Kevin Durant, what are you getting
Speaker 1: in return? And can you be competitive? Because this isn't
Speaker 1: a charity case. If you're the Nets, where you go,
Speaker 1: who could we help out? Let's help out the Lakers
Speaker 1: with Kyrie and the Celtics with k D. That's not
Speaker 1: the way it works. Now, Eventually you go, okay, let's
Speaker 1: look at my report card. Oh boy, I got a F.
Speaker 1: I got a D and a C minus here. Now
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some players, younger players. Do they want
Speaker 1: to play there? That's another thing. But if Kyrie would
Speaker 1: end up in Brooklyn and these Celtics players who didn't
Speaker 1: get along with Kyrie and Boston and vice versa, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they would be coming to Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: you gotta factor that in as well. Yeah, I'm really
Speaker 1: curious how this is playing in Boston and sports radio,
Speaker 1: because I'll bet your Celtics fans are not excited about
Speaker 1: this possibility. Remember a bunch of years ago, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like twenty sixteen. They had that team with Isaiah Thomas
Speaker 1: and Young Rogier, young Marcus Smart, and they were cooking.
Speaker 1: And then they said let's bring in Kyrie Irving and
Speaker 1: they started regressing. They started going the wrong way when
Speaker 1: they brought in the big time star. Yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: if there's a bad taste in your mouth where you're like,
Speaker 1: we overachieved this year. We got this new head coach
Speaker 1: is great. Our entire team except for Horford is young.
Speaker 1: Let's roll with this for a while before we blowed up.
Speaker 1: You're the favorites to win the title. Right, you don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything unless but then you go back
Speaker 1: to teams like the different sport, the Alex Smith thing. Hey,
Speaker 1: we were good, we made the Playoff, our quarterback made
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Alternate, Uh, let's draft Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 1: see if we can improve, which is how sports are now,
Speaker 1: how can we improve? I find Boston, I stand pat,
Speaker 1: I just do I pass up on that opportunity here. Plus,
Speaker 1: you know, but getting Kad is different than getting Kyrie.
Speaker 1: Kyrie wanted to prove to everybody, Hey, I can run
Speaker 1: my own team here. Hey, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: anybody's little brother here. That's why he wanted out of Cleveland.
Speaker 1: He wanted to go to Boston to prove that he
Speaker 1: could be a leader and be his own team. This
Speaker 1: could be my team. And he's not a leader, yeah,
Speaker 1: set he just for such a talented player, he's kind
Speaker 1: of become a like too much trouble. It feels like Kyrie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you have Katie. Katie seems restless when you
Speaker 1: think about it. You know, all right, I'm in no clubs.
Speaker 1: We're not going to be Golden State. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna join Golden State. I'm gonna go to Brooklyn. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna be Boston. I'm gonna go to Boston. Not
Speaker 1: that he said he's you know, wants to go there,
Speaker 1: but that might that might be where he ends up. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: if he jo If Durant joins the Celtics, we we
Speaker 1: have to beat these shirts. If you can't beat him
Speaker 1: join them, we gotta make that shirt first. That could
Speaker 1: be the shirt. M A right, see what you're doing there, Paul,
Speaker 1: question setan, what are we going with today? Well, for
Speaker 1: the first hour day, we threw up better up, yeah,
Speaker 1: literally threw up all over. Well was your birthday on Sunday?
Speaker 1: Till my birthday? Mom? Yes? Better duo Durant Tatum or
Speaker 1: Brown Tatum. Seventy one percent have Durant Tatum. Maybe I
Speaker 1: should have put more. Yes, that wasn't word enough, that's
Speaker 1: not that's no. Um, I have a couple of sidebars. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, not go ahead, you have something No, No,
Speaker 1: I just I'm just kind of mine. Yeah. Reporters exchange
Speaker 1: with Philly's Nick Castellanos. All right, was a stupid question
Speaker 1: or a stupid answer? All right? All right, So the
Speaker 1: reporter is Jim Saul Spring and he works in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And uh. Nick Castellanos was asked a question if the
Speaker 1: fans were booing, and here is Jim Salisbury asking him,
Speaker 1: did you hear the means there I'm struck out me
Speaker 1: playing the game. Then no, man, I lost my hearing,
Speaker 1: so you didn't hear him? Come on, man, as a
Speaker 1: stupid question, what is a stupid question? Can anybody else
Speaker 1: answer that for him? Anybody? Yeah? Man, that's a stupid question.
Speaker 1: Stupid question. If it's a stupid question, you should be
Speaker 1: a quest answer. I did answer, answer, be able to
Speaker 1: answer stupid we we got the answer. That mean that
Speaker 1: I can't say that's a stupid question. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: stupid question. If I heard the booze? Is is that
Speaker 1: question stupid? That's a stupid question? Got the answer, thanks.
Speaker 1: Cast should be able to handle a stupid question. I did. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the reporter doesn't come off well here he's got
Speaker 1: his finger pointing at Nick Castellano's. The question should have
Speaker 1: been phrase better, what did you think when you heard
Speaker 1: the booze? That's all you can Did you hear the booze?
Speaker 1: Well he knows that he's getting ten thousand people are
Speaker 1: booing you you're going to hear that, what did you
Speaker 1: think when you heard the booze? Then you might get
Speaker 1: a answer. You know, your goal is to get an
Speaker 1: answer of him hearing the booze? Did you want a
Speaker 1: confrontation because it felt like that. Now, I've been in
Speaker 1: press conferences in situations like that, and it does get heated,
Speaker 1: and somebody does ask a question, and somebody wants you
Speaker 1: to engage with them. They want to incite you. You know,
Speaker 1: I've witnessed it. But in a situation like that, did
Speaker 1: you hear the booze? Nick Castellos could have said, yeah,
Speaker 1: then the reporter would have said, well, what do you think?
Speaker 1: So why I'd ask that in the first place, just
Speaker 1: to ask a better question, because then even if he says, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the booths, you didn't hear ten thousand
Speaker 1: people booths? Really? Yeah, Marv, was there ever a reporter
Speaker 1: that you worked with or you know, was a colleague
Speaker 1: of When they came in, you would always think, here
Speaker 1: comes the bs, like they're going to ask a question
Speaker 1: that's going to upset the player or anything like that,
Speaker 1: or they were looking for a reaction out of the player. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, back when I first started, newspaper reporters were
Speaker 1: really powerful, and then they started to lose their power
Speaker 1: as sports centers started to rise. You know, the reporters
Speaker 1: weren't as impactful. But I didn't think anybody was purposely
Speaker 1: trying to agitate. I got to New York the very
Speaker 1: end of Dick Young's life. He was a legendary columnist
Speaker 1: with the New York Daily News, and he was not
Speaker 1: afraid of being a flamethrower. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember somebody that I went, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go, Yes, Ton, did you ever ask someone
Speaker 1: that ticks somebody off and you just ruined it for
Speaker 1: the entire press? Cord? Like, thanks a lot, Dan, or
Speaker 1: we gave you a dirty look. How none of us
Speaker 1: are going to get our quotes because you set this
Speaker 1: guy off? No, m see yes, yes, yes, no questions
Speaker 1: what happened to see what happens? He's like, I ever
Speaker 1: asked a question that upset the Yeah, no, because you
Speaker 1: follow up? Do you want to be respectful to those
Speaker 1: who were doing their jobs? But no, I didn't go, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you here. If I would get you
Speaker 1: would be one on one not in a group setting. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: I wished a player for the Phillies. Castellanos would have
Speaker 1: just stayed with it and played it like, played it straightly. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you didn't hear those nut didn't they
Speaker 1: were booing. There's four four thousand people booing when you
Speaker 1: struck out. Tend to get sorry, I didn't hear it.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you're referring to. Just played at
Speaker 1: deadpan the entire time and give him nowhere to go.
Speaker 1: I would have just went, huh what, huh what? Hey? Okay,
Speaker 1: did you hear the booths? No? I lost my hearing.
Speaker 1: Goes okay, stupid question, Todd, Yeah, poorly worded slash Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Satan extremely Marv Absolutely he whipped on the question.
Speaker 1: Yes he do, Yeah, all right, under yep, boom, yep.
Speaker 1: We only ask a great questions, not Jim Sulisbury. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. Charles Barkley said to join
Speaker 1: us coming up next year on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1: Link soul ready to help your summers here. Record high
Speaker 1: temperatures playing golf yesterday. You gotta be cool when you're
Speaker 1: walking and uh, well I was cool in more ways
Speaker 1: than one. Not my golf game, but the Link Soul
Speaker 1: Boardwalker AC collection is going to keep you cool everywhere
Speaker 1: you go. Link Soul has taken its most technical fabric,
Speaker 1: specifically designed to be moisture wicking, quick drawing, and using
Speaker 1: laser technology to add precision cut perforations that give maximum airflow.
Speaker 1: Featured in the Boardwalker AC Short, Saturday Workout Short, even
Speaker 1: the classic Chino. The AC technology comes in every style
Speaker 1: that you need. Fritzie, are you wearing the Boardwalker shorts today? Am?
Speaker 1: I got my shorts on? Okay. Temperatures aren't coming down
Speaker 1: anytime soon. That doesn't mean you have to sacrifice your
Speaker 1: comfort when you're moving around having a great time this
Speaker 1: summer summer Links Souls Boardwalker AC collection. See the entire
Speaker 1: summer collection at linksoul dot com, l I n K
Speaker 1: sul dot com. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday
Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and you can find us on the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the
Speaker 1: Peacock app. This award nominated program brought to you by Mercedes.
Speaker 1: This family takes turns, turning heads, brains, beauty and athleticism.
Speaker 1: All they need now is for you to drive them
Speaker 1: off the Lonthe of Mercedes, Benz family of SUVs, a
Speaker 1: family of unrivaled vehicles waiting at your local dealer, waiting
Speaker 1: for Charles Barkley to join us. Make sure you sign
Speaker 1: up for the dp Show newsletter, available every day at
Speaker 1: six eastern three pm Pacific. It is the newsletter that
Speaker 1: kind of recaps everything that's happened during the show dan
Speaker 1: Patrick dot Com. Put your email address in the box
Speaker 1: that slides out bottom right corner. You're good to go.
Speaker 1: Our stat of the Day brought to you by Panini,
Speaker 1: the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. At
Speaker 1: a couple of numbers. Here, Aaron Judge hit his thirty
Speaker 1: seventh home run as the Yankees blank there. He has
Speaker 1: matched Shohyutani for the most home runs through the end
Speaker 1: of July since Chris Davis of Baltimore hit thirty eight
Speaker 1: and twenty thirteen. The only Yankees hit more home runs
Speaker 1: before the end of July Roger Marris, Mickey Mantle and
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth, who did it twice. He Stat of the
Speaker 1: Days stat of the day. Stat of the day. Here
Speaker 1: comes that? What stat of the day. He's the Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer TNT inside the NBA analyst Charles Barkley joining
Speaker 1: us on the program. A few things to talk about.
Speaker 1: We'll get to the live tour here in a moment.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the possibility that the Celtics and Nets
Speaker 1: could complete a trade that Katie would go to Boston
Speaker 1: in exchange for Jaylen Brown and a few players and
Speaker 1: some draft picks. What depends on what they're given up.
Speaker 1: I mean, Katie. I think everybody wants Katie. We can
Speaker 1: be sure of that. It just depends on what you
Speaker 1: have to give up. I mean, if you're just giving
Speaker 1: up Jaylen Brown some draft picks, if you do that
Speaker 1: deal right away, But like I said, they gotta want
Speaker 1: more than that. They don't know what the hell they're
Speaker 1: doing in Brooklyn. What if you just say to Kde,
Speaker 1: we're not trading you, like he got a contract. They
Speaker 1: should have did that already because that team, they're in
Speaker 1: the conversation the way they structured, you know, because Kyrie
Speaker 1: got to play well next year to get a new contract.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't know what band's gonna do. But
Speaker 1: when Band was healthy, he was a heck of a player.
Speaker 1: I liked the offseason editions. I would tell, hey, Katie,
Speaker 1: we're not trading you. We might have the best team
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. Then he's going out to say
Speaker 1: I don't want to play with Kyrie because it's really
Speaker 1: our run. It the day out to Kyrie bought in.
Speaker 1: That's the thing he released, I want to be traded.
Speaker 1: So that would bring that would actually bring a lot
Speaker 1: of things into the light. If he says, hey, you guys,
Speaker 1: trade Kyrie, I'm back in. So I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on behind the scene, but it sounds like he
Speaker 1: just had enough of Kyrie. That's my honest opinion. And
Speaker 1: how ironic would this be if Katie would go to
Speaker 1: Boston and those players who played with Kyrie in Boston
Speaker 1: would then be shipped to Brooklyn to have to play
Speaker 1: with Kyrie. Yeah, man, it would be like, you, Sisten,
Speaker 1: whatever team Katie go to gonna be a contender. Can
Speaker 1: they win it? We don't know. That depends on what
Speaker 1: you're giving up. But if I'm any team in the league,
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I got a chance to get Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: I might go for that. And I thought Golden State
Speaker 1: would make a run at this, and maybe they do
Speaker 1: because they do have the pieces, or at least it
Speaker 1: feels like they have some young players, some depth there.
Speaker 1: And if you're Golden State, would you make a run
Speaker 1: at Kadie to try to win a couple more championships here? Well?
Speaker 1: I think the two things. Number One, I loved their
Speaker 1: young players, you know, but what are you gonna have
Speaker 1: to give up? Like, if I'm Brooklyn, if you give
Speaker 1: me Wiggins, komakominga Wiseman pool because their draft picks ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be in a good yeah, But if you give
Speaker 1: me Wiseman cominga maybe even Moody or Wiggins one of
Speaker 1: those two, I might give me four good young players
Speaker 1: because you know, go to State, man, they're gonna need
Speaker 1: those young players to play well going folk fill their
Speaker 1: chors getting old. And Wiggins was the second best player
Speaker 1: on the team in the playoffs. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: it just depends on what you got to give up
Speaker 1: to get Katie. To be honest with your Dan Draymond
Speaker 1: Green had a tweet over the weekend where he said
Speaker 1: he was watching the Bulls against the Utah Jazz nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety seven. He said we would we would crush the
Speaker 1: jazz by forty and we would, you know, beat the bulls.
Speaker 1: But he did say it's kind of crazy to compare
Speaker 1: you know, eras here. I mean, I'm not surprised he
Speaker 1: would say that the twenty seventeen Warriors would beat the bulls.
Speaker 1: If he said we couldn't, then I would think that
Speaker 1: that would be interesting or headline news here. But we
Speaker 1: get into these discussions all the time that Dan. I
Speaker 1: don't get in those discuss because I think it takes
Speaker 1: you know when I think when guys get on the
Speaker 1: radio and TV and said who's better Lebron and Michael,
Speaker 1: that's just lazy journalism. They're just trying to get stoke
Speaker 1: fires out there to get it is and food to
Speaker 1: call on your radio show. Listen the Warriors. I love
Speaker 1: what they do, but them little bodies they got, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't last any submission in the eighties, No disrespect. You know,
Speaker 1: you know how many how you think about this day.
Speaker 1: Let's be realistic. We know you know how much I
Speaker 1: love Steph Cover. Correct. Yeah, you think he could take
Speaker 1: that beating that Michael got against the bad Boys Pistons.
Speaker 1: Come on, Dan, please stop it. I mean, the game
Speaker 1: was just so much more physical. And I'm not talking
Speaker 1: to listen. These guys are great today. They're great today.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna everybody think every time you criticize them,
Speaker 1: you're like the old guy. Get off my lam. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying when I watched that last dance. First of all,
Speaker 1: I played during that generation. I tell people, and you
Speaker 1: played against those bad boys Pistons, you had to call
Speaker 1: your family and take just in case I never see
Speaker 1: you again. I want y'all know we're good. I love
Speaker 1: y'all because those balls out there trying to hurt people.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. You can't compare like, Yeah, today,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, free throws Michael Jordan would
Speaker 1: shoot today compared to how many I mean, James Harden's
Speaker 1: a great player. He shoots twelve a game. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you just can't compare us because of the physicality. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Isaiah survived the physicality and Steph is similar in
Speaker 1: science to Isaiah. No, those guys don't play like Isaiah.
Speaker 1: Thomas is one of the toughest guys that have played
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Do not compare them too. I told y'all,
Speaker 1: I mean size wise, size wise, no, no, but but
Speaker 1: not physicality. That's a difference. Uh. He plays like Isaiah
Speaker 1: Thomas went through the Wars. I mean Isaiah remember when
Speaker 1: he got hit in the face boy Carmelone and broke
Speaker 1: his whole face. But no, Isaiah Thomas played a totally
Speaker 1: different game. And let me tell you something. As great
Speaker 1: as stelf is Isaiah, that would have been a great
Speaker 1: matchup right there, that would have been a great match up.
Speaker 1: I'll give you Isaiah or Staff as your point guard. Well.
Speaker 1: I thought that when Stephan won a championship this year,
Speaker 1: that moved him to the table with Isaiah, you know,
Speaker 1: because I held those two with Katie against him a
Speaker 1: little bit. But now he's this is the second time
Speaker 1: he's led a team to the championship, So I've moved
Speaker 1: him to the table. When you look at levels in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, this moved him to the table
Speaker 1: with Isaiah Thomas. Talking to Charles Barkley, the Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer TNT inside the NBA analyst, how would you sum
Speaker 1: up this past week with the rumors about you joining
Speaker 1: the Live Tour, It's been very stressful, Uh, not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to it. It's been a lot of it's been tough.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie because I'm gonna man. It's it's
Speaker 1: hard sitting back here and everybody because I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you. I met with Greg. He
Speaker 1: asked me, was I interested? I said, of course I'm here.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have dinner with you if I wasn't interested.
Speaker 1: And I'm waiting for them to make me an offer
Speaker 1: our guests. But that's all I know so far. But
Speaker 1: it's been very stressful on me. How what are you
Speaker 1: factoring in with your decision? Well, man, I love TMT,
Speaker 1: I love Ernie, Kinny Shack and everybody who works down there.
Speaker 1: But if those dudes do something crazy at me, I
Speaker 1: had to listen. I mean listen, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get on here and say it's not about the money.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's about the money. I think a bunch
Speaker 1: of live guys they're so terrified to say it's about
Speaker 1: the money. It's all right to everybody's saying a job
Speaker 1: for money, you know, but they're so afraid that as
Speaker 1: a rest of people are gonna talk bad about you anyway.
Speaker 1: A certain percentage but most people I talked to my
Speaker 1: close confid DOT, They're like, no, man, you got to
Speaker 1: sit down with them, listen what they are offering. And
Speaker 1: before you I know you love TNT, but you know
Speaker 1: they're giving guys two hundred million dollars hunting fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars hunting twenty five million dollars. I'd be stupid not
Speaker 1: to listen to that conversation. What kind of offered do
Speaker 1: you think that it would take for you to leave?
Speaker 1: I would be astronomical, But like, what, well, Dan, I'm
Speaker 1: making I'm blessed to make a lot of money. But
Speaker 1: let's say you made twenty five thirty forty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. Are we am I in the ballpark of
Speaker 1: what you expect to get or you think they'll offer.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that question. They know
Speaker 1: how much money I make, so because you know, I
Speaker 1: have to factor in this, Okay. There's a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Number One, I have three years left on my TNT deal, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm probably gonna lose all my commercials. So those
Speaker 1: are those are two big things. If I if I
Speaker 1: had to lose my TNT gig, that would hurt me
Speaker 1: a lot, but I'm also gonna lose my commercials, and listen,
Speaker 1: let's be realistic. I'm not sure how the public is
Speaker 1: gonna get about as forced the commercial thing. I might
Speaker 1: not get commercials anymore because I so it's a lot
Speaker 1: that goes into it. But man, I love my job,
Speaker 1: but I had to take the meeting. What did TNT
Speaker 1: say about you staying there and doing both? We have
Speaker 1: not had any conversations, not one, to be honest with you, Dan,
Speaker 1: They've been very They've been very quiet. But I see
Speaker 1: this is the thing. Live has not offered me anything,
Speaker 1: so everything is really just speculation right now. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we just had done. He asked means I interested? I
Speaker 1: said yes, and he said I'll get back to you.
Speaker 1: And I'm planning that pro am Thursday up in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I'm not unless they come at
Speaker 1: me with something crazy, I'm not leaving TNT. I love
Speaker 1: my job at TNT. What's the criticism that hurts the most? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's no criticism. I don't do with this selective prosecution
Speaker 1: about beings people in public. You know, everybody picked and chooses.
Speaker 1: I just think it's fine. They're no word about civil
Speaker 1: rights in Saudi Arabia place nine to nine point nine.
Speaker 1: But some of the people in the United States have
Speaker 1: never been and all of a sudden they're worried about
Speaker 1: civil rights in Saudi Arabia's that kind of gives me
Speaker 1: a chuckle. I said, you don't worry about civil rights
Speaker 1: of people here in the United States, but all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, when gods start taking money, they're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about civil rights in Saudi Arabia. And that
Speaker 1: just makes me laugh. I said, that's why, why don't
Speaker 1: y'all get worried about civil rights here in the United States.
Speaker 1: Let's worry about that before we worry about what's going
Speaker 1: on in Saudi Arabia. I understand what you're saying about
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and China. And I know you're a Nike spokesperson,
Speaker 1: and you know with Nike in China, I think the
Speaker 1: Saudi's with nine to eleven hits home with people people
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, I think that's different. You know,
Speaker 1: people haven't been to China, won't go to China, haven't
Speaker 1: been to Saudi Arabia, won't go to saud Arabia. At
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, where fifteen of the eighteen involved in
Speaker 1: nine to eleven were Saudis. Yeah, that's that's the criticism,
Speaker 1: well from the from the Nine Elem families. Yes, and
Speaker 1: they have the right to say that, and I understand that,
Speaker 1: but I don't think the rest of America is thinking
Speaker 1: like that. But I listen, that's a fair criticism for
Speaker 1: the Nine Elem families. That was that was the worst
Speaker 1: day in the United States history, And I understand that,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's fair for the appin all
Speaker 1: that on these golfers. That's not fair. I mean, our
Speaker 1: government still does business over there, and then you talk
Speaker 1: about these people who ain't never been to China. They
Speaker 1: bound up all this Chinese stuff. So don't act like
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna take the moral high ground. I mean,
Speaker 1: we can't even get a car in this country because
Speaker 1: all the chips are made in China. So I don't
Speaker 1: want want to have selected. Like I understand the Nine
Speaker 1: eleven families, they have the right to have their opinion,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's fair to blame me as
Speaker 1: golfers who are just trying to play golf. You know,
Speaker 1: they're not they're not making a political statement, So hey,
Speaker 1: I understand it. But these guys, hey, they're independent contractors
Speaker 1: and they have to make money any way they want to,
Speaker 1: and it's up to them. I keep hearing, but I
Speaker 1: haven't really heard a true answer, and that is, um,
Speaker 1: we're growing the game, Live tours growing the game. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, reached down to Greg Norman and he might
Speaker 1: join us coming up next week. I just want to know,
Speaker 1: because you're fracturing the PGA Tour, how is the Live Tour?
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about you. I'm saying the Live
Speaker 1: Tour is fracturing the PGA Tour. How does that grow
Speaker 1: the game of golf? Well, I think they have some
Speaker 1: interesting concepts they talked about. You know, the main proponent
Speaker 1: of the Live Tour is the team aspects. So I
Speaker 1: think and I know that the pois I as to
Speaker 1: trying to start a team competition, they've just got a
Speaker 1: head start on them. And also after tournaments, they're really
Speaker 1: trying to bring in a younger demographic. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about at the dinner that the average age of
Speaker 1: a PGA fan it's like sixty sixty one. You know,
Speaker 1: I have would disappear my first time going to a tournament.
Speaker 1: You know, they play loud music. Yeah, people having fun.
Speaker 1: They're trying to reach to a younger demographic. So I
Speaker 1: think that would grow the game if they get to
Speaker 1: a younger demographic, because you know, golf is we can't
Speaker 1: survive on old fans. So, like I say, I don't
Speaker 1: judge these guys for taking the money. Like I say,
Speaker 1: criticisms come with it. I mean that's that's Criticisms come
Speaker 1: with everything. But for me personally, I'm glad I took
Speaker 1: the meeting. I'm looking forward to playing golf with a
Speaker 1: couple of my friends Thursday, and I'm just going to
Speaker 1: play golf. It has nothing to do with politics and
Speaker 1: anything like that. And if anybody get mad, they get
Speaker 1: over it. But you also look at there has to
Speaker 1: be an asking price, right you said, hey, this is
Speaker 1: about the money, right, Is that what this is going
Speaker 1: to be based on? If Greg Norman comes back and says,
Speaker 1: here's our offer, well listen, okay, let me get an example.
Speaker 1: I just hear I know most of the numbers. That's
Speaker 1: where I reported. I know, you know somebody say Field
Speaker 1: Miners have got two hundred million dollars. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: take that money. Somebody said, dustan't Justin got one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty million and Bryson than Brooks. I'm like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars to play golf fifteen times
Speaker 1: a year. I have no problem with those guys taking
Speaker 1: that money. And if they offer me something crazy, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take it too. What's crazy, Well, consider how much
Speaker 1: money I make now. It would take a really huge
Speaker 1: number for me to give up my life right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna give up my life for
Speaker 1: I don't like talking about how much money I make. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's make it. Let's say you make twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars total endorsements and TNT. That's fair, that's fair. I
Speaker 1: might be a little high on that. Um let's say, well,
Speaker 1: just for the record, you not. Okay, let's get that
Speaker 1: out the way. Okay, all right, So I'm in the ballpark,
Speaker 1: right yeah, you you you number one? You got you
Speaker 1: sitting on the front road. Okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 1: So let's say they come back and they go, we're
Speaker 1: gonna triple it you and limited. Well, next time if
Speaker 1: they triple it, and next time, I'm on your show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first question beout to be Charles, what are we
Speaker 1: celebrating that tonight? That should be your first question. That
Speaker 1: should be your first question. If they triple what I'm
Speaker 1: making now, your first question should be, Hey, Charles, where's
Speaker 1: the party tonight? And then you can ask me a
Speaker 1: second that okay, But you're more valuable than some of
Speaker 1: these golfers who are getting I think you're the most
Speaker 1: underpaid analyst in sports. You're already generating publicity for the
Speaker 1: live tour and you're not even on the live tour.
Speaker 1: And if you're more valuable than Bryson Deshambo or Patrick Reid,
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson, I mean that's where. If it's not sixty million,
Speaker 1: then then what are you doing? I mean you're worth that,
Speaker 1: I said, Dan, I'm just sitting I'm just sit back waiting.
Speaker 1: They haven't offered me anything. I can't believe they haven't
Speaker 1: made you an offer. If Greg Norman sat down to
Speaker 1: dinner with you in Atlanta at that Italian restaurant, d
Speaker 1: he made me an offer, I'd have made a decision
Speaker 1: by now. Well he might have made an offer, and
Speaker 1: you go, Nope, you're gonna do better than than fifty Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't. I'm not I'm not in a rust.
Speaker 1: I gotta okay, all right, yeah, all right, but listen, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's your role on this tour? You don't have a
Speaker 1: TV deal? Well, they're gonna get a TV deal. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure of that. With who. I'm pretty I don't
Speaker 1: know the answer to that question. I'm pretty sure they
Speaker 1: had to tell you that. You had to say, Greg,
Speaker 1: where where are we going to be able to people
Speaker 1: see us? Well, I'll tell you what's really funny. It's
Speaker 1: how full of crap everybody is number one. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt in my mind. TV Networks and calling him they're
Speaker 1: just afraid to pull the trigger. Okay, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you how I know the answer that question. When the
Speaker 1: story broke that I was gonna meet with Greg, I
Speaker 1: had fifteen or more prominent announcers call me saying, Chuck,
Speaker 1: I've been talking to Live. We're scared to pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: The only one who's actually pulled the trigger is David Ferdy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know they've been taught to ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty big time. I'm not talking about no local dudes.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about no regional dudes. I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Some of the most famous announcers in the world called
Speaker 1: me privately, says Chuck, what do you think I said, Yo, man,
Speaker 1: when they make me an awful offer, I will be
Speaker 1: the first to let America know. But they haven't offered
Speaker 1: me anything. They said, man, we are terrified to go first,
Speaker 1: and the only guy had the stone to go is
Speaker 1: David Ferdy. But they're talking to so I know that
Speaker 1: said he did not tell me a TV deal what's imminent?
Speaker 1: But he says we're talking to networks, and I think
Speaker 1: they will get a deal. I think they will get
Speaker 1: a deal by the end of this year. I truly
Speaker 1: believe that. What's the time friend? Did Greg Norman say,
Speaker 1: when I'll get back to you, Well, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: them a deadline. What's that gonna be? The deadline is
Speaker 1: gonna be Thursday? Okay, I'm planning program Thursday when you
Speaker 1: get ready to tea up? Will you know what your
Speaker 1: future is with the Live Tour? No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna walk up to me to I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I'm playing morning the afternoon, but at some
Speaker 1: point we're gonna talk. I'm not gonna keep T and
Speaker 1: T in Lumbo. To be honest with you, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's fair to them. And you said something interesting.
Speaker 1: They've gotten plenty of play out of me coming to
Speaker 1: play up there Thursday. So I'm not just gonna be
Speaker 1: no show. Pony wey, y'all, y'all, I got y'all pub
Speaker 1: for a week. Don't be wasted my time. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna waste you' all time. But when I leave New
Speaker 1: Jersey Thursday night, when I leave a golf course, if
Speaker 1: I don't have an offer in hand, it's over. Good luck,
Speaker 1: good luck what y'all need luck for. I've seen your
Speaker 1: golf game. You were terrible on tamh Dan, you did
Speaker 1: not pay attention. I was greed and to you, they're entertaining.
Speaker 1: You're not. Your golf game is not any good. If
Speaker 1: I played great and asked how about this, I had
Speaker 1: three people said, Dan, can you please get Dann Patrick
Speaker 1: back out here? Three people? Three people said okay, well,
Speaker 1: now you're gonna be making serious money at the Live Tour,
Speaker 1: and now we can play for some real money. As
Speaker 1: Tiger once said to me, will play for whatever makes
Speaker 1: you nervous. Dan, First of all, Chuck ain't gonna get nervous. Okay, Chuck,
Speaker 1: Chuck is not gonna get nervous. I can promise you that.
Speaker 1: Don't go third person on me. I like doing that something. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's not good. It's not a good luck okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I apologize America. You shouldn't have ever prefer to yourself
Speaker 1: and the third person. I was hund same wrong. Then
Speaker 1: great to talk to you, but all right, brother, no
Speaker 1: good luck. I know you're struggling with this and uh,
Speaker 1: you know they'll be fallout, but yes, yes, that will
Speaker 1: fall out. Ye Hey, hey, I'm a big boy. I
Speaker 1: can handle it. Thank you, Chuck, Thank you brother. All Right,
Speaker 1: it's Charles Bark. We'll take a break back after this.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until
Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,
Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at
Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey
Speaker 1: what's up everybody. It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new
Speaker 1: podcast called Up on Game what is up on Game?
Speaker 1: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler t J.
Speaker 1: Hudshmansatta and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Burds.
Speaker 1: You can only name a show with that type of
Speaker 1: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to be
Speaker 1: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen
Speaker 1: to Up on Game with me LeVar Arrington, t J.
Speaker 1: Huschman Zatta and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Speaker 1: Podcasts or wherever where you get your podcast problem. And
Speaker 1: there's a fly ball the left field and it is
Speaker 1: God Mookie Bets' career two hundredth home runs. He's forty
Speaker 1: second of the season and the Dodgers take a one
Speaker 1: to nothing league Mookie bats. That's Charlie Steiner with the
Speaker 1: call AM five to seventy LA Sports Dodgers Radio Network.
Speaker 1: He has twenty or more home runs in a season
Speaker 1: six times. That's since twenty sixteen. Mookie beats one of
Speaker 1: my favorite players. We could talk about how complicated other
Speaker 1: banks make it to redeem credit card rewards. We could
Speaker 1: talk about with Discover, you can redeem your rewards for
Speaker 1: cash in any amount at anytime, that's amazing. Learn more
Speaker 1: at discover dot com. Slash redeem rewards terms apply. I
Speaker 1: appreciate Charles coming on, and he's always been honest. I've
Speaker 1: known him for thirty years now, I think maybe longer.
Speaker 1: But you know, he says, I'm waiting for them to
Speaker 1: make me an offer. He has a Thursday night deadline there.
Speaker 1: He's going to play in the pro am and you're
Speaker 1: going to have a lot of relatives of those who
Speaker 1: lost loved ones at nine to eleven that are going
Speaker 1: to show up outside this golf tournament here. So Charles
Speaker 1: says that his deadline is Thursday, hasn't received an offer,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to keep TNT in limbo. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised on a couple of fronts here that TNT hasn't
Speaker 1: reached out, hadn't said anything, and also that the live
Speaker 1: tour Greg Norman meets with Charles in Atlanta and they
Speaker 1: have dinner and he doesn't give him an offer right there.
Speaker 1: So here we are, five days later, doesn't have an offer.
Speaker 1: I'm told have been told for a week now that
Speaker 1: Charles was going to go. I you know, Charles says,
Speaker 1: I don't have an offer. If he could triple his money.
Speaker 1: Then I'm guessing Charles is going to to take that offer. Yeah, poem.
Speaker 1: The most shocking part of that whole back and forth
Speaker 1: with you guys is when you said, Charles, you make
Speaker 1: about twenty total and he kind of confirmed it, and
Speaker 1: you said, if they offer you triple, He's like, uh,
Speaker 1: he'd never been speechless on this show before. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: you said back to him, if they don't offer you that,
Speaker 1: you're you know, don't don't do it. Yeah. Um. And
Speaker 1: look he can talk about selective outrage, and and and
Speaker 1: there is selective outrage. Do I agree with it? Uh?
Speaker 1: Going to the live tour, I don't. I don't care
Speaker 1: what your format is. And you're having fun and you
Speaker 1: know you're playing music and attracting a younger audience. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Just from what happened at nine to eleven
Speaker 1: with the Saudi's involved in that, I could never be
Speaker 1: involved in that. Never. I don't care how much money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Charles's entire salary playing forty three and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: final hour coming up. More phone calls, Glad you're part
Speaker 1: of the program. Monday edition, two hours down, one more
Speaker 1: to go, one more item, we close out hour two.
Speaker 1: If you own a business, it's been a bumpy ride
Speaker 1: from the pandemic to inflation, but there is help on
Speaker 1: the way. If you're a business that has five or
Speaker 1: more employees manage to survive COVID, you could be eligible
Speaker 1: to receive a payroll tax rebate of up to twenty
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. That's per employee. It's not alone. There's
Speaker 1: no payback, it's a refund of your taxes. How do
Speaker 1: you cut through the red tape and get your business
Speaker 1: the refund money. You start by going to get refunds
Speaker 1: dot com. They do all the work. There's no charge
Speaker 1: up front. They simply share a percentage of the cash
Speaker 1: that they get for you. Business of all types can qualify,
Speaker 1: including those who took PPP, nonprofits, and even those who
Speaker 1: had increases in sales. The team at getrefunds dot com
Speaker 1: has already returned over one billion dollars to businesses and
Speaker 1: they can help you too. You go to getrefunds dot Com,
Speaker 1: click on qualify meat, answer a few questions, don't miss out.
Speaker 1: Go to getrefunds dot Com. No risk, high reward. Getrefunds
Speaker 1: dot Com