Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod.
Speaker 2: It's Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
Speaker 3: a Pod. Today we will be recapping Secret Labs of
Speaker 3: Mormon Waves episode two and three.
Speaker 2: These both are crazy.
Speaker 3: It is so good and it's only getting better now.
Speaker 2: So I've only watched up until episode three, so i
Speaker 2: know they're all out at once. How do you feel,
Speaker 2: as somebody that's been on reality TV when they you know,
Speaker 2: in Housewives it's weekly, but when they just dump all
Speaker 2: the episode at once, do you think you like that better?
Speaker 3: No? I think I like to wait it out. I
Speaker 3: do too. I feel like it stretches it out because
Speaker 3: now I've watched the entire thing pretty much. I mean,
Speaker 3: not the entire thing, but I've watched a bunch of episodes,
Speaker 3: and now I'm like, okay, well I'm getting I like
Speaker 3: to have that like suspense a little bit more.
Speaker 2: But also, I mean, as a as a viewer, I think, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: that's cool. I can watch them all if I have
Speaker 2: the time. But as talent, you're like, okay, you just
Speaker 2: it's like blowing your wad. Yeah, right, but that secular wad.
Speaker 3: But now it's the number one show.
Speaker 2: I know, but I feel like it's going to be
Speaker 2: forgotten about in two weeks.
Speaker 3: Well then we'll have season three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how's it going. I saw on your Instagram
Speaker 2: you said you're not feeling that great time.
Speaker 3: Well, it's because today is that, you know, day five
Speaker 3: post immune therapy, which every single time hits me like
Speaker 3: a ton of bricks, like I but I each time
Speaker 3: I think, oh no, now I'm going to be fine
Speaker 3: this time because my body's used to it, and then
Speaker 3: it's like.
Speaker 1: I will yesterday. So the day before I went to.
Speaker 3: It was like a non stop day, Like my weekend
Speaker 3: has been NonStop because I did my dad's event. Then
Speaker 3: I drove to Orange County, went to slid Tour show
Speaker 3: during the day. Then I drove back that same night
Speaker 3: because I had a Alexia's wedding party.
Speaker 2: That looks so beautiful.
Speaker 3: It was so beautiful, It was so fun, it was
Speaker 3: so nice. I got to see Rena and Kyle and
Speaker 3: Dree like it was good to kind of catch up
Speaker 3: with everybody.
Speaker 2: And then like the group was back together.
Speaker 3: The group was back together. We were sad Erica wasn't there,
Speaker 3: but she couldn't be there, but yeah, that's those were
Speaker 3: the housewives that were there.
Speaker 1: And then we just had a fun night.
Speaker 3: But I had a feeling and I texted Edwin and
Speaker 3: I said, ed on Sunday, can you kind of just
Speaker 3: hang with the kids a bit because I have a
Speaker 3: feeling after all this non stop I'm going to be exhausted.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you, I got up with the kids,
Speaker 3: hung out with them till like ten eleven am. Then
Speaker 3: Edwin picked them up for church, and then I slept
Speaker 3: for eight hours during the day. During the day, eight
Speaker 3: hours were able to sleep that night, yes, Then I
Speaker 3: got up, ate dinner, hung out with the kids, and
Speaker 3: then me and Cruz went back to bed. We put
Speaker 3: on like our little podcast we listened to and we
Speaker 3: went to bed at eight thirty PM and woke up
Speaker 3: at I woke up in time to go to hot
Speaker 3: yoga this morning. But hot yoga I was pretty much
Speaker 3: just lay yoga.
Speaker 2: Leyah, well, hey, Lesh you go. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You make that attempt to go every single you know,
Speaker 2: do something physical every single day, no matter how you feel.
Speaker 2: But I as like a mother in me. I worry,
Speaker 2: like I watch you on social media. I'm like oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, she's here. She like I would be exhausted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I listened to my body, like I went
Speaker 3: and slept, and then today during yoga, I really like
Speaker 3: stretched and relaxed, and I mean, I'm definitely a little
Speaker 3: lower energy than I normally am, but I don't feel terrible.
Speaker 3: I just am a little bit tired. But I'm like
Speaker 3: I felt this, I would be this way before. I
Speaker 3: like to do a lot of things. I like to
Speaker 3: stay busy, and it helps with my mental health.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, Now you're immunray, is it you said? Now?
Speaker 2: You start every four weeks after this.
Speaker 3: They doubled up this time, and then I have my
Speaker 3: next session in.
Speaker 2: Four weeks, okay, and then after that it's every four weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every four weeks. Yeah, every four weeks.
Speaker 2: For out of that three weeks, you've only been doing
Speaker 2: three weeks. How like, do you feel bad a week
Speaker 2: out of that? I would say it's about three days.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll catch me tomorrow. So yesterday I felt exhausted.
Speaker 1: So that's the day. I slept all day.
Speaker 3: Then today we're talking, we're recapping, and then tomorrow I'll
Speaker 3: be talking to you again. I'm curious if you see
Speaker 3: a change, and do you do you.
Speaker 2: Get sick to your stomach at all?
Speaker 3: Well, I take I'm on a medication that helps with nausea,
Speaker 3: like a zo frien or something. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: a zofran, but it lasts all day and you swallow it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't melt in your mouth, but it could potential
Speaker 3: make you tired, but it works.
Speaker 2: It's like I'd rather be tired than growing up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Same, same, same, but here everything else is good.
Speaker 3: Everything else is good. What about you?
Speaker 2: I'm good. I've been had this stupid head cold. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. I think I have like
Speaker 2: long covid or something, because when I got COVID back
Speaker 2: in November, and it lasted five weeks and I went
Speaker 2: through every part of my body. Every I swear every
Speaker 2: other month I have like a relapse.
Speaker 3: Don't mind me as I drink some pedia Lite. We
Speaker 3: call it my elixir. Cruise made it for me this morning.
Speaker 3: It's pedia Light mixed with a little bit of ginger
Speaker 3: ale and some soda water.
Speaker 2: It's called the mocktail.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's an elixir. Was so fancy.
Speaker 2: Way when I was in New York, I had the
Speaker 2: best mocktail. It was like soda water, orange juice, cranberry juice,
Speaker 2: and lime.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was so good.
Speaker 2: I had like four of them.
Speaker 3: It's a lisheelish. But okay, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 3: about Mormon Wife.
Speaker 2: A little bit. There's a lot I.
Speaker 3: Am curious on the edit that we've gotten from Mikayla
Speaker 3: because I loved her in person.
Speaker 2: I loved all three of them.
Speaker 3: I did too, but the Mikaela we get kind of
Speaker 3: like this like meek version of her that doesn't say much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in your own.
Speaker 3: Life, I feel like she was the boss she was
Speaker 3: and I was I missing something there? Or was she
Speaker 3: was kind of like the one they all I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you're thinking like she doesn't really get too involved,
Speaker 2: or she's not very outspoken on when she's filming.
Speaker 1: So far what we've seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you feel like some people are so
Speaker 2: different on camera than off camera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she was filming the pod with us, and
Speaker 3: she didn't mind doing that. But I also was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I remember how I sometimes came out
Speaker 3: and I was like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes some people, you know,
Speaker 2: it's so funny is the people that you think are
Speaker 2: the absolute meanest on TV or actually the sweetest, and
Speaker 2: ones they are the sweetest or usually the meanest.
Speaker 3: I know, it's wild, but it starts out where they're
Speaker 3: back at Miranda's house for happy Hour.
Speaker 1: Taylor claims Miranda's ex husband.
Speaker 3: Chase was obsessed with her after she told him she
Speaker 3: had a sex dream about him.
Speaker 2: Why would she tell him that though that's like your friends.
Speaker 2: I don't know what different. I guess different circumstances. Since
Speaker 2: they were soft swinging.
Speaker 3: I think it would have been one thing if she
Speaker 3: said it in front of a group, like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: the creepiest thing happened. Like if I said it, if
Speaker 3: I had sex dream about Eddie, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can you please not tell me?
Speaker 3: But I would if I was going to tell you,
Speaker 3: oh you would tell me.
Speaker 1: I would tell.
Speaker 3: You and Eddie at the same time. I wouldn't just
Speaker 3: tell Eddie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. I had
Speaker 2: a crazy dream last night. I had a dream. No,
Speaker 2: not yet, but I had a dream that I was
Speaker 2: at the reunion and I'm all dressed up and Andy
Speaker 2: walks into my dressing room. He's like, I'm sorry, we're
Speaker 2: not going to need you today. I'm like, but what
Speaker 2: do you mean. He's like, yeah, no, to kill it bye,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, fired again.
Speaker 3: Fired again, but this time before the reunion even starts.
Speaker 3: But that's the funny thing about dreams. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: saying it to a man alone when you know it's inappropriate, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a crossing the line.
Speaker 1: But anyways, Miranda swinging.
Speaker 3: Yes, Maranda felt betrayed by Taylor because she didn't tell
Speaker 3: her any of this, but she was telling all of
Speaker 3: their mutual friends. Taylor was the villain when the Swinging
Speaker 3: Sick scandal first came to light, so she has empathy
Speaker 3: for Whitney. Whitney who I forgot about Whitney at this point,
Speaker 3: I know who's she's busy being pregnant. She's busy, she's
Speaker 3: booked and busy being pregs. But meanwhile, Jesse's confused. So
Speaker 3: she's going to invite Miranda and Chase to her Halloween party.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we to cover the truth, Jesse. I
Speaker 2: like that. The girls are like, Miranda, why are you back?
Speaker 2: And then Taylor's just get straight to the point, long
Speaker 2: story short, why are you here? Miranda?
Speaker 3: Well, what about this fuck Jesse inviting how inviting Chase?
Speaker 2: No, she's working over time to cause drama by inviting Randas.
Speaker 3: Why isn't she the middle Mormon this season? I don't know.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen the whole We haven't seen the whole
Speaker 2: show yet. Have you seen all the episodes?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Not yet.
Speaker 3: Then Layla, Jesse, Michaela, and Demi are shopping for Halloween
Speaker 3: and stage Coach outfits.
Speaker 2: I have a question, Yeah, where are you go any further?
Speaker 2: Stage Coach was like two weeks ago, That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: buying stage Coach outfits in October of last year?
Speaker 3: But do we know this is actually October?
Speaker 2: Well, they had a Halloween party, remember they were?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I needed a reason to buy
Speaker 3: a cute little.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it just a reason for them to
Speaker 2: talk about stage Coach because possibly they filmed their season.
Speaker 3: Three And even if they're not filming their season three,
Speaker 3: all of them are going to be there, which is
Speaker 3: going to cause more drama that they're going to end
Speaker 3: up ultimately talk king about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I liked it.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I was fine with it. Layla's excited
Speaker 3: to dress up considering she recently got a boob job
Speaker 3: and is dating someone new. Her boyfriend, Cameron, grew up
Speaker 3: Mormon and his dad is a bishop. Just so you know,
Speaker 3: I looked up the definitions of it. A bishop is
Speaker 3: the leader of a local congregation.
Speaker 2: I wade the same thing known as a ward.
Speaker 3: They are similar to pastor, priest, or, rabbi, and other denominations.
Speaker 2: Okay. Thoughts on Laila's new boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Thoughts are, girl needs to get an orgasm soon.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is a guy that's going to
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 3: I think a bishop's son. It might be a little tricky.
Speaker 2: Might be Yeah, you might want to go outside. You
Speaker 2: might need a magic mike.
Speaker 3: You might need to go outside of somebody who's the
Speaker 3: bishop's son to get that out.
Speaker 2: It might be a good idea, but who knows.
Speaker 3: Closet freak who The girls talk about Jen and their
Speaker 3: thoughts on Zach moving back in with her. None of
Speaker 3: the girls think he's a change man, like she claims.
Speaker 3: Somebody says something in one of these first two episodes
Speaker 3: that really hit me. What I get people not want,
Speaker 3: not liking somebody's significant other, Well, what is it to them?
Speaker 3: If Jen wants to stay with him.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a burning question across the board. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: get what I mean. Well, I guess it's really nobody's
Speaker 2: it really isn't. I mean, you can voice your opinion
Speaker 2: and be protective of your friend and be like, you know,
Speaker 2: what you could do better or something like that. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you're gonna do or
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do, or she's gonna do whatever she wants,
Speaker 2: a date whoever she wants.
Speaker 3: And people say, then why is she talking about it?
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we'd be pissed if she wasn't talking
Speaker 3: about it and we didn't know this side of it.
Speaker 2: I have big problems with this right now in this episode.
Speaker 2: I have problems, and we're going to get to it.
Speaker 2: But you should be able to vent to your friends.
Speaker 2: I am a strong believer that when you you you
Speaker 2: don't say really negative things about your spouse when you're
Speaker 2: mad at him to your friends, because then they start
Speaker 2: judging and start, you know, having their own opinion about them.
Speaker 2: But like, I know, if I talk to you, can
Speaker 2: I tell you something that's going on, it's not going
Speaker 2: anywhere and you're not judging, you know.
Speaker 3: But this is on TV.
Speaker 2: But if I go and do that on Housewives, you
Speaker 2: bet your sweet ass, everybody's going to judge.
Speaker 3: But if you did it to it, But I think
Speaker 3: it also depends on the friendship level. If you did
Speaker 3: it to me, if we were filming something and you
Speaker 3: did it to me and you told me some some
Speaker 3: positive and some also shitty things about yeah, Eddie, I'd
Speaker 3: be like that.
Speaker 1: That makes me kind of annoyed to Eddie.
Speaker 3: But I still love him and I've seen that he's
Speaker 3: done blah blah and blah.
Speaker 1: But I support you whatever you decide.
Speaker 2: You kind of as a friend, you have really good advice.
Speaker 2: Like I have a ton of friends, but you are
Speaker 2: the one that always has like probably one of the
Speaker 2: best advice. You And my friend Heather heat advice too,
Speaker 2: she's good at advice too. So you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know what friends that go to. If you're going
Speaker 2: to a friend that's like her life shit and you
Speaker 2: know she's gonna like no, yeah.
Speaker 3: And also everybody's life has a little bit of shit
Speaker 3: in it. But then Dakota, Zach, Jordan, and Brett are
Speaker 3: fly fishing.
Speaker 1: This seems like a sport.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be that into.
Speaker 2: No, No, it seems very Southern charm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dakota tells the guys how things are going with
Speaker 3: Taylor right now, and it's not good. Then it's Zach's
Speaker 3: turn to tell the group how he and Jin are doing.
Speaker 3: Brett asked Zach how he would handle the Chippendale situation now,
Speaker 3: and Zach just admits his wrongdoings. They're really trying to
Speaker 3: trap Zach here, and Zach isn't gonna last long pretending No.
Speaker 2: How about Zack admitting he's getting death threats for the
Speaker 2: way he treated his wife, and Dakota said the same thing, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm getting the death threats too, Like, oh social media,
Speaker 2: you're just a real doozy.
Speaker 3: Well, they were acting like assholes, not that anybody deserves.
Speaker 2: Nobody deserves a death threat, but Zach, I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: Zach bugs me more than Dakota.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the problem is Dakota is just I
Speaker 3: think toxic in all the ways. But I don't think
Speaker 3: he's trying to control her.
Speaker 2: No, but don't you think he's trying to redeem himself.
Speaker 2: You know, like when he did this whole and stuff,
Speaker 2: it was in the very beginning of the relationship, and
Speaker 2: I feel like now he's like loves being a dad
Speaker 2: and trying to make things right as of now.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, until we get yet he's like, oh you
Speaker 3: lied to Then Jesse and de Me are meeting up
Speaker 3: with Zach at a coffee shop so he can formally apologize.
Speaker 2: It's the weirdest coffee shop I've ever seen. I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you? Are you in Big Bear? Are you in
Speaker 2: some loft?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Where are you?
Speaker 3: This also didn't really need to happen for me. I
Speaker 3: don't think he needed to sit down with those girls.
Speaker 3: I don't think it. He's said saying they're spreading lies
Speaker 3: about him, and he was gambling away as medical school tuition.
Speaker 1: All this actually.
Speaker 3: Ended up doing for me was made me believe not
Speaker 3: trust Jen very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see I thought the other way, I thought,
Speaker 2: what is he doing? Is he throwing his own wife
Speaker 2: under the bus? And why are these girlfriends they didn't
Speaker 2: like him five minutes ago, all of a sudden siding
Speaker 2: with him and questioning Jen because they do flashbacks. And
Speaker 2: what Jen says is not anything horrible. It's not like
Speaker 2: it's it's it's not like she's like he's a narcissist.
Speaker 2: It's like he's doing better, but you know, there is
Speaker 2: these narcissistic tendencies and things like that, but they're like
Speaker 2: weaponizing everything she says.
Speaker 3: But to me and Jesse insist that Jen is the
Speaker 3: one who told them that Zach is a narcissist.
Speaker 2: But then when they do the flashback, she says she
Speaker 2: it's very softly said. It's like hes no hewing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he tends to have narcissistic behavior tendencies or something like that,
Speaker 2: and it's not like he's a fin narcissist. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like she was talking to her friends venting.
Speaker 3: Upset, but also I think her I think Jen letting
Speaker 3: Zach do any filming on his own not a good plan.
Speaker 3: Not a good plan. No, No, she should have been
Speaker 3: there micromanaging that.
Speaker 2: I mean, they talk about major shit or major truth
Speaker 2: in this conversation, and I feel like it was the
Speaker 2: convo was all shit, and her friends are now taking
Speaker 2: Zach's side in twisting Jen's words, and I don't like that,
Speaker 2: Like that's girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah see, I know, but I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: twisting her words or not. I think they're both. I
Speaker 3: think she because she wants people to like Zach says
Speaker 3: certain things to her friends and then different things to
Speaker 3: Zach because she's worried about upsetting him, which I completely understand.
Speaker 2: She's a people pleaser.
Speaker 3: Right, But I think where the girls have issues is
Speaker 3: that she's completely pulled away from them. So my guess
Speaker 3: is she completely pulled away when they weren't filming, and
Speaker 3: now they're filming again, and now she's back in action,
Speaker 3: and it pissed them off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that, because didn't she make a comment.
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to them since Vegas, which Vegas was
Speaker 2: ended last year.
Speaker 3: And so I think they think that she's using us
Speaker 3: solely to be on the show. Then Taylor goes over
Speaker 3: to her parents' house for their barbecue. Taylor's mom is
Speaker 3: still in touch with Chase and Miranda because she was
Speaker 3: their real estate agent when they were still married. Then
Speaker 3: Dakota gets there, everyone sits down to eat. Taylor's extremely
Speaker 3: quiet and closed off, and Leanne calls her out for it.
Speaker 3: Taylor's dad tells them they started their relationship on a
Speaker 3: foundation of shit, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, a foundation of shared stat I.
Speaker 2: Mean it was, and if you remember last season, he
Speaker 2: didn't they the parents did not like Dakota at all.
Speaker 1: I barely remember the dad filming last season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did like that. I think one scene and
Speaker 2: he was with Dakota. He was with Taylor and the
Speaker 2: mom and like, we don't like this guy, what are
Speaker 2: you doing? This is too soon? And now it kind
Speaker 2: of seems like things have shifted now that the baby's
Speaker 2: been born.
Speaker 3: Now they're like, we got to figure this out a
Speaker 3: little bit. But then Taylor gets riled up, telling everyone
Speaker 3: at the table that Dakota would okur Leanne gassed every
Speaker 3: time she would you.
Speaker 2: Talk like that at dinner in front of your parents?
Speaker 2: I mean she said it multiple times. I mean she
Speaker 2: has coffened it and just said like he would come
Speaker 2: over and be intimate with me, Like I don't think
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 3: I've said things like you are go or those that's
Speaker 3: different things in front of my parents, but I never
Speaker 3: said like a guy's to me. No.
Speaker 2: God, I don't even want to hear it, especially.
Speaker 3: Since her parents are still part of the church.
Speaker 2: Oh, her dad really seems like he's really hanted. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, well he how many times if you said
Speaker 2: pussy and all these things.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well, he's a little bit Judgy Wudgie.
Speaker 2: Jeremy asked what that says about Taylor consitting she had
Speaker 2: sex with Koda after hanging out with them two or
Speaker 2: three times. Taylor crost herself trash and starts crying. Now,
Speaker 2: so there. I saw a lot on social media that
Speaker 2: her dad was like slut shaming her, And do you
Speaker 2: think that's slut shaming or listen, girl, you met him
Speaker 2: two times and you were having sex with him.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's different ways of phrasing things.
Speaker 2: That's what he said, how he said it.
Speaker 3: I think it was how he said it. I think
Speaker 3: if you know you had sex with somebody two times,
Speaker 3: and I said to you, Tam, what do you expect.
Speaker 3: It's not like that person's in a relationship with you.
Speaker 3: It's you know, you've had sex two times.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's very different than the shame added to it. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be shaming you at that point. I would be like, hey, Tam,
Speaker 3: get your head out of your ass. This is what's happening, right.
Speaker 2: I think her dad's a little His bedside manner is
Speaker 2: not very nice.
Speaker 3: I do think they could do a scene where the
Speaker 3: therapists should so should sew this scene to other parents
Speaker 3: to say like these are the things not to do.
Speaker 3: Then and Taylor's confessional, she admits that she does not
Speaker 3: see her self closing the door on the coda anytime soon.
Speaker 3: I don't think these two have any interest in breaking up,
Speaker 3: even though they're constantly breaking.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I think they do have. I think
Speaker 2: that they can make it. I think that they started their,
Speaker 2: like her dad said, on a foundation of shit, and
Speaker 2: she was just getting out in a relationship and she
Speaker 2: jumped into this. He was wasn't he just recently recovering something.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but I okay, So
Speaker 2: Taylor is I don't know if this was acting or
Speaker 2: this is truly her personality. But she's like literally squinting
Speaker 2: her eyes and pushing on her eyes and squinting, and
Speaker 2: there's not one tier that's coming up.
Speaker 3: I think she's so frustrated. We have to also remember
Speaker 3: she has a baby. Yeah, like that's a lot.
Speaker 2: But Taylor's dad asking her, are you going to be
Speaker 2: slutty Gretchen, bloody Gretchen? Yeah, because she was going to
Speaker 2: dress up as Gretchen from Green or Gretchen Weien. I
Speaker 2: have never watched hunch.
Speaker 1: It makes me upset every time.
Speaker 3: I just want to put a packer up and she
Speaker 3: get mad at you.
Speaker 2: I will. I know, I'm going to do it. I'm
Speaker 2: going to do it. Taylor's sister is definitely the more
Speaker 2: mature one in the entire family.
Speaker 3: Well, she's just said no words, so it was hard.
Speaker 2: For she had some At the end, She's like, listen,
Speaker 2: I think you guys need to separate. You need time,
Speaker 2: like she was kind of the voice of reason, and
Speaker 2: then Taylor's look alike mom was just sitting there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Then Zach back home after his time
Speaker 3: with Jesse and to me, he tells Jen all of
Speaker 3: the negative things she supposedly said about him behind his back.
Speaker 3: Jen claims all she's done since Vegas is stick up
Speaker 3: for Zach and his behavior, despite how stupid everyone made
Speaker 3: her feel for it. Jen wants to have a conversation
Speaker 3: with the girls because she feels like they're trying to
Speaker 3: pin her husband against her.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really getting over this conversation altogether.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. To me, Jen seems sweet.
Speaker 2: I think there's another side to her. I think it's
Speaker 2: going to come out, like you said, Zach, turning this
Speaker 2: on his wife is so annoying. But I also love
Speaker 2: that Jen's not putting up with it. She's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, But.
Speaker 3: I can't tell she's not putting it up, up with
Speaker 3: it for camera play, And then the second the camera's
Speaker 3: break down, it goes back to just her getting it
Speaker 3: and she's taken it.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but if I were Jen, I
Speaker 2: would never say a word about my marriage to these
Speaker 2: girls again. Now.
Speaker 3: And then it's two days but I don't even think
Speaker 3: she has to. I think the way he behaves is
Speaker 3: so obvious. But it's two days before the Halloween party,
Speaker 3: but Jesse and Jordan's house is completely decked out. Jesse
Speaker 3: Demi decided that Brett and Jordan would do a Chippendale's
Speaker 3: performance at the party. Messy Jesse is inviting Chase, Miranda,
Speaker 3: and Taylor to her party. Jason, an actual Chippendale's dancer,
Speaker 3: has flown in from Vegas to teach Brett and Jordan
Speaker 3: to choreograph dance, which I could do without seeing again.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Brett, but not Jordan. I need to
Speaker 2: see Jordan.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Brett took it very seriously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then that same day Jen and Zach go
Speaker 3: over to Jesse's house to speak with her and to
Speaker 3: me and Jen A mets that Zach did not gamble
Speaker 3: away his money from medical school.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what happened?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: How do we get confused on this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to know. There's a couple of things
Speaker 2: that we need to know from this family. Are you
Speaker 2: related to the afflex and how much money did you
Speaker 2: gamble that your parents gave you for med school? Because
Speaker 2: I got to believe med school is pretty damn expensive,
Speaker 2: and I don't.
Speaker 3: Guess med school's like forty thousand dollars is my guess
Speaker 3: a year?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's more.
Speaker 1: Is that not counting living or anything like that?
Speaker 2: As a parent that has put kids through college, you
Speaker 2: don't give the he hits the money and they pay
Speaker 2: for their tuition.
Speaker 3: Well, unless you're trying to teach them their is that
Speaker 3: any guys out.
Speaker 2: There let us know? Is that how you do it?
Speaker 2: Like it's normally like the money goes straight to the college.
Speaker 3: And maybe the confusion is that he got some kind
Speaker 3: of trust and he was able to use it however
Speaker 3: he wanted, but he used But the way she kind
Speaker 3: of broke it down last year was that she paid
Speaker 3: for him to go to med school with her influencer money,
Speaker 3: but that conversation doesn't seem to be coming up right
Speaker 3: now according to Google.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about sixty thou. I mean, it really
Speaker 2: depends on what school you go to. There's a huge
Speaker 2: difference in different.
Speaker 1: Well anyways, Then.
Speaker 3: Jesse and Demi are confused because that was one of
Speaker 3: their biggest concerns last season, and then Jen says she
Speaker 3: felt unsupported by the girls, but Jesse reminds her that
Speaker 3: she texted her and sent her voice memos that would
Speaker 3: be like me being like, I haven't heard from tam Or,
Speaker 3: res I feel very unsupported from of her. Meanwhile, Tamor
Speaker 3: checks on me almost every day, and how.
Speaker 2: I don't always get a response?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how responsive I am is how I'm actually feeling.
Speaker 3: But you're checking on me because you really actually care,
Speaker 3: not because you're looking for a response.
Speaker 2: No, no, And I just to me, it's more about
Speaker 2: I want you to know that I'm thinking about you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I know that not always, you know, And you've
Speaker 2: told me like we had this conversation when I saw you,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to cry, but I'm like I
Speaker 2: miss us, like I miss us. You know, things are
Speaker 2: different and it's not the same and it's expected.
Speaker 3: To be that way.
Speaker 2: And you said to me, You're like, I really don't
Speaker 2: reach out to a lot of people right now, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's like I know that obviously you're going through
Speaker 2: a lot and being at home and being with the
Speaker 2: kids and you know, and your health is the most
Speaker 2: important thing, you know, and it's just things are different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are very different. But it's because I'm saving
Speaker 3: my energy and everybody's different. But like I'm saying, my
Speaker 3: energy for when I can see you in person. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for being able to do this, Like there's only so
Speaker 3: much so I know, like before I used to be
Speaker 3: a big phone call person and I'd be like, let's goss, like,
Speaker 3: let's get through the end.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't miss the voice notes, d it.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I actually do.
Speaker 1: But actually, you know.
Speaker 3: Jen didn't miss the voice notes either, because Jen didn't
Speaker 3: even respond to Demi's voice notes rude. And then allegedly
Speaker 3: they get into this allegedly after Italy Brett was crying
Speaker 3: to to me, but to me denies this and demise confessional.
Speaker 3: She says that Marciano was very flirty with her in
Speaker 3: the Villa, but she feels like she handled it the
Speaker 3: best she could.
Speaker 2: Let me ask a question, did you do you watch
Speaker 2: uh manderput Villa? Did you see that episode?
Speaker 3: I saw all the clips, I didn't watch it. I
Speaker 3: watched it last season and recapped it, and I didn't
Speaker 3: feel the need to.
Speaker 1: Do that again.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that happened last season on.
Speaker 3: We Never Know, it happened this recent season, the one
Speaker 3: with Arianna. So there's flirtation between Demi and Marciano. This
Speaker 3: is the clip where she stands up and her dress
Speaker 3: is tucked into her underwear.
Speaker 2: It's not teking her anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's up heer butt yeah, up heer, but but her
Speaker 3: bullet things. It's it is really whatever we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2: Now. What do you think about gen dropping that nonchalantly
Speaker 2: like don't work with me?
Speaker 3: Well, I think she did that clearly because she wants
Speaker 3: to hold it over her head, and I do think
Speaker 3: I like to me. But I do think Demi can exaggerate,
Speaker 3: especially with what we see later, and Demi can also
Speaker 3: skate around what the truth may be. She's good at
Speaker 3: dodging because she's very well spoken. But it's the day
Speaker 3: of the Halloween party and Jen shows off her naughty
Speaker 3: nurse costume to Zach. She also has a bluey onesie.
Speaker 3: Then she decides to dress up as j Low and
Speaker 3: tells Zach he can be Ben Affleck and that's the
Speaker 3: second cousin. Then you see them going back and worth
Speaker 3: because Zach's like, no, he's not, And this made me
Speaker 3: feel very awkward.
Speaker 2: Well, why doesn't she just stop stop talking about wasn't
Speaker 2: it a topic last year? Yes?
Speaker 3: But then last year, the after the season aired the
Speaker 3: what the Inner the Innerweb Salutes found out that it
Speaker 3: wasn't true, So let's stop talking about it.
Speaker 2: Well, she should go on twenty three and Me and
Speaker 2: see if she can find anything out. Although, don't go
Speaker 2: on twenty three and Me. I heard that something's going
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 3: Well I mean too, but also I think she's gonna
Speaker 3: look a little bit ridiculous when his family ends up
Speaker 3: coming on and saying we didn't tell you that, because
Speaker 3: I think that's what.
Speaker 2: Well that happens. Then she's a liar. Yeah, she's a liar.
Speaker 2: We just need Ben to speak out.
Speaker 3: Well, Zach, you're saying, Zach, And then I realized.
Speaker 2: You said, bit Ben, don't let us know what's going on.
Speaker 2: But it feels like about this, it.
Speaker 3: Does feel like both Jen and Zach have a problem
Speaker 3: with the true.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 3: Then at Jesse's house, she and Jordan are dressed as
Speaker 3: Jalo and Ben Affleck for the Halloween party, and then
Speaker 3: Layla and Cameron a dressed as race car drivers. Taylor
Speaker 3: is Gretchen Wieners, Macy is Regina George and her husband
Speaker 3: is Aaron Samuels.
Speaker 2: Any of these people are I know, you don't.
Speaker 3: And then Mikayla is Karen and her husband is the
Speaker 3: burn Brook to me as Cereal and her husband is
Speaker 3: the Milkman. And then Zach and Jenn are also j
Speaker 3: Loo and Ben, and then Dakota is the bus that
Speaker 3: heads Regina George.
Speaker 2: Jesse is I mean, she literally is messy dressing up
Speaker 2: a j Lo and she she knows what she's.
Speaker 3: Doing, but dressing up as the better j Lo, like
Speaker 3: she h the.
Speaker 2: Hot one, yeah, little booty. When she came down the stairs,
Speaker 2: I'm like I am, but and then making these comments
Speaker 2: like do you think Jen will be mad? We're gonna
Speaker 2: roast Jen and Zach, like she's like little vindictive. It
Speaker 2: kind of gives let's get her naked wasted.
Speaker 1: Tamra loves her.
Speaker 3: Then Chase and Dakota talk about the swinging scandal and
Speaker 3: Chase says the extent was spin the bottle and he
Speaker 3: never even had sex with Taylor. Taylor decides to go
Speaker 3: up to them and see what they're talking about. Chase
Speaker 3: tries to call out Taylor everything she had sex dream
Speaker 3: about him, but she's already admitted that to everyone. Chase
Speaker 3: then claims he didn't have feelings for Taylor and he
Speaker 3: just said he had sex dream about her too. Taylor
Speaker 3: says that's a lie, and meanwhile Brett and Jordan are
Speaker 3: upstairs practicing their Chippendales dance.
Speaker 1: Then the cops show up.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Chase lost me completely when he looked
Speaker 2: at the camera and pointed and telling Taylor, say, you
Speaker 2: have a sex dream about me, like he's some prize
Speaker 2: and she hasn't already talked about it, like it was
Speaker 2: a smoking gun. And little did he know, she's already
Speaker 2: talked about it.
Speaker 1: She's already talked about it.
Speaker 3: And also the one thing that I feel like has
Speaker 3: been I mean, I think Taylor's reaction to things can
Speaker 3: be kind of ridiculous. Oh you think one thing, It
Speaker 3: doesn't seem.
Speaker 1: Like Taylor's a liar.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she's a liar. I think she's
Speaker 2: brutally honest.
Speaker 3: I think she's brutally honest, even at her own detriment.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know the feeling, but pore Hailey Bieber. She
Speaker 2: just wanted to get out of there. And by the
Speaker 2: way she nailed that, she actually kind of looked like
Speaker 2: her a lot like her.
Speaker 3: Oh she did, she did.
Speaker 2: She's beautiful and she's like, I just like I went
Speaker 2: out of here. She's like, bye, You're like poor Haley Bieber.
Speaker 2: I know. And if I'm surprised Haaylor didn't break Chase
Speaker 2: his finger off for pointing in her face. Even Hailey
Speaker 2: Bieber is like, stop pointing in her face.
Speaker 3: Haley Bieber. All, everybody was real wrapped up about this.
Speaker 3: But let's take a quick break and then we're gonna
Speaker 3: come back and get into episode three. SOE Episode three.
Speaker 3: Now we pick back up Taylor, Chase, and Dakota's fight
Speaker 3: to dum. The mom Top girls break them up and
Speaker 3: de escalate the situation. Layla makes fun of Chase's podcast
Speaker 3: and calls him Chase the clout Chase.
Speaker 2: What do you think his podcast is about?
Speaker 3: It was about talking about all the shit that was
Speaker 3: going on. He was trying to debuff everything Taylor was saying.
Speaker 3: And then we get into them fighting, and at this point,
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't even really need to fully break
Speaker 3: down the fight. I feel like Chase knew what he
Speaker 3: was doing in this entire scene, and they played into
Speaker 3: his hands effortlessly. Yeah, he was duchy. It starts to
Speaker 3: get loud. Essentially, Dakota isn't really having Taylor's back, and
Speaker 3: Taylor is coming unhinged over in the corner.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that Dakota heard that. I mean he
Speaker 2: figured out Taylor lied to him and didn't give him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's lying. I think she just
Speaker 2: didn't give him the information. And now Dakota is just
Speaker 2: over there, just so happy that he caught Taylor in
Speaker 2: a lie. And I think he's thinking, or even now
Speaker 2: we're even we both lied, where you can't you can't
Speaker 2: come after me anymore.
Speaker 3: But she didn't lie.
Speaker 2: I think it was it about what were they It
Speaker 2: was about the sex dream? Is that what it was?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But she's like yeah, what's your Yeah, she didn't
Speaker 3: tell Miranda about the sex dream originally, but she told
Speaker 3: her now.
Speaker 2: I don't think she told Dakota about it either.
Speaker 3: That's so who cares because Dakota and her weren't even together. Then.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go I started dating someone tomorrow,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk to them about sex dreams
Speaker 3: I had two years ago.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, But Taylor, she was getting a
Speaker 2: little out of control. The girls were coming and like,
Speaker 2: you need to calm your tips.
Speaker 3: But then my favorite part is as everybody's fighting, Chase
Speaker 3: starts to walk by the group and then says, looks
Speaker 3: at dem and goes, where's your husband? Yeah? And then
Speaker 3: I watched so many times I don't see him touch her.
Speaker 2: I don't either, And if anything was like like just
Speaker 2: walking by because they were all smashed in this room
Speaker 2: and like touched arm, like hey, where's your husband? I
Speaker 2: don't think that's any big deal. But Brett Chasing coming
Speaker 2: down and going after him, like you're forty seven years old, dude,
Speaker 2: Like you're the oldest man here, Like why don't you
Speaker 2: ask questions?
Speaker 1: Like why don't you ask question? Why don't And.
Speaker 3: Also to me, why did you run upstairs to tell
Speaker 3: him that it was this like you could say, he's
Speaker 3: being an asshole to everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3: And he alluded to the fact that you're cheating on
Speaker 3: me by saying, well, where's your husband? Like to me,
Speaker 3: that's what he was doing.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I didn't take it like that. I just
Speaker 2: took it like, hey, where's your husband? No, so yeah,
Speaker 2: let me ask you this because it was talked about
Speaker 2: in a like an after show or an interview or something.
Speaker 2: So it was all right for Demi to have a
Speaker 2: gent in a chair and have a guy grind all
Speaker 2: over her. But yet if Chase walks by and touches
Speaker 2: her arm, that's off limits.
Speaker 3: But I think what actually pissed her off was not
Speaker 3: that Chase touched her, because she backtracks on this anyway.
Speaker 3: She's like, well, maybe he was just being blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: you know, like she changed her story. I think what
Speaker 3: really pissed her off is if you rewatch this scene,
Speaker 3: Chase is like they're all talking about other people's husbands
Speaker 3: and cheating and swinging and blah blah blah, and Chase
Speaker 3: looks directly at her. I don't think touches her. I
Speaker 3: think maybe tray to squeeze by it, and says, where's
Speaker 3: your husband?
Speaker 1: Oh, which is kind.
Speaker 3: Of like toes along the lines of like, let's talk
Speaker 3: about the husbands.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the husbands.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the husbands.
Speaker 2: Then I didn't show it like that, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: get it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cops show up.
Speaker 3: Chase new You know, Chase knew it was time to
Speaker 3: go finally, because he didn't really know.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, get out of there.
Speaker 3: Your girlfriend's already Haley Bieber's already left. Your ex wife
Speaker 3: is telling you to go. The cops are there.
Speaker 2: How did you like it? When Demi goes, have you
Speaker 2: ever seen the Secret Lives of Mormon? Way? I just
Speaker 2: did a cops cops are like messy, Jesse? Oh is
Speaker 2: it messy? Jesse? That's as messy.
Speaker 3: Jesse was trying to get out of it, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: my chance, have you seen the.
Speaker 2: Secret ing on the reality show here?
Speaker 3: It was so good? But then to lighten the mood
Speaker 3: to me, and so this the cops are gone to
Speaker 3: lighten the mood to me, and Jesse decide it's time
Speaker 3: for the Chippendale's performance.
Speaker 1: Which was very awkward.
Speaker 2: Before we get there, let me ask you a question
Speaker 2: when Jordan when he started take ownership, I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are you doing, dude? Do you just need camera time
Speaker 2: right now? Like Chase was literally trying to apologize.
Speaker 3: Yes, because when you just said Jordan, I didn't know
Speaker 3: who you were talking about. Husband. Clearly I know now husband,
Speaker 3: I know, But that's why he need We needed a
Speaker 3: little bit of Jordan action because I had totally forgotten
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: It was literally Chase is literally apologizing when he just
Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere screaming, both of those guys, go
Speaker 2: put your shirt on.
Speaker 3: Take off that little tiny bow tie, bow tie, and
Speaker 3: let's try this again. Yes, because they got so angry
Speaker 3: about it, especially when they weren't there to see it.
Speaker 2: They don't know, they don't even know what happened.
Speaker 3: But then you know, of course it gets the mood
Speaker 3: really lightens up when they decide to give a lap dance.
Speaker 3: But this is the one time so far that I
Speaker 3: could agree with Zach. I also was cringing it this lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, as they you know, the guys are coming
Speaker 2: down and they put Jen in the chair. You know,
Speaker 2: Demi is setting up Zach and Jen no doubt, and
Speaker 2: Jenna is giving her this stare like, please don't do
Speaker 2: this to me, Please don't do this to me. I
Speaker 2: already knew, she knew, but she know she was gonna
Speaker 2: sit in the chair. She looks like, it's one thing
Speaker 2: to watch it, that'd be a whole different conversation, But
Speaker 2: to be sitting in that chair and be singled out.
Speaker 2: Was there any other girl up there?
Speaker 3: No, And they knew it was going to make her awkward.
Speaker 3: It'd be one thing if all the girls were up
Speaker 3: in the chair.
Speaker 2: You're right, No, they did her dirty. And I think
Speaker 2: Zach was more pissed off that the girls did that
Speaker 2: to his wife than the actual dancer up there shaking
Speaker 2: his booty.
Speaker 3: True, And I'm starting to get the vibe that like
Speaker 3: you're into Zach and Jen a little bit, like you're like.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. Zach needs to prove himself a
Speaker 2: little bit more, but Jen so far, Oh, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he does. I'm not in it for I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't with him, but her. I just feel like she's
Speaker 2: just young, she's wanted. She's twenty five years old. She's young,
Speaker 2: she's sweet, she's trying she's trying to talk with their friends.
Speaker 2: They're using it against her, but.
Speaker 3: She's only trying to talk to her friends on camera,
Speaker 3: which is a problem.
Speaker 1: But then Mikayla is.
Speaker 3: With her family on Halloween night to get away from
Speaker 3: the mom talk drama, they of course show her like
Speaker 3: filming like a forty five minute mom talk and then
Speaker 3: with the back round like I just love spending time
Speaker 3: with my family, and then they're like, take four hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you a question mom talk. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't follow them. I better But on TikTok? Do
Speaker 2: they get up there on TikTok and talk about mom
Speaker 2: things or they just dance? I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Well, what do they dance? Talk? They do well, it's
Speaker 3: just like TikTok, but they do things that other moms
Speaker 3: would relate to, Like.
Speaker 2: What are they having conversations? Because it likes the.
Speaker 3: Halloween costumes and it's all jokes and all of their
Speaker 3: talks kind of relate to each other and morph back
Speaker 3: to each other. But there's dancing, there's there's it's not
Speaker 3: like a ted talk. It's TikTok.
Speaker 2: I know, okay, I just knew there was more about
Speaker 2: because they're like us, Mom's like, it's all about positivity
Speaker 2: and who is it? Whitney Like, I really went back
Speaker 2: and mom talk and I'm like.
Speaker 3: What you wait?
Speaker 1: You want to dance money?
Speaker 3: No, she doesn't want to dance, she wants money. Then
Speaker 3: Mikayla is with her family again and they're talking about
Speaker 3: how she was sexually abused for four to five years
Speaker 3: as a child, but she didn't realize it was going
Speaker 3: on until she was about fifteen years old. On Halloween
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, she finally told her mom what was
Speaker 3: going on, and she felt like her mom didn't believe her.
Speaker 1: This was heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: That was very heartbreaking, And I can't imagine as a
Speaker 2: mom like second guessing your child is telling you this.
Speaker 3: What she told us is she, you know, has to
Speaker 3: work from the inside out versus she was always working
Speaker 3: from the outside inn And I thought that that was
Speaker 3: a really good point and what made me love Michaela.
Speaker 3: And I think that her story is going to help
Speaker 3: a lot of people, and I hope that we get
Speaker 3: to learn more about it because last season we didn't
Speaker 3: hear anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah that when stuff happens to you and you internalize it,
Speaker 2: it makes you sick, it gives you cancer, it makes
Speaker 2: you have autoimmune.
Speaker 3: Issues, like it comes out in different ways for everybody.
Speaker 3: Jen and Zach are on a walk. They both seem
Speaker 3: angry about the Chippendale situation that happened on Halloween, and
Speaker 3: then Zach would have preferred that Brett or the girls
Speaker 3: at least reach out to them and ask if they're
Speaker 3: okay before doing it. At this point, Jen maybe could
Speaker 3: have said, they did reach out to me and let
Speaker 3: me know.
Speaker 2: They let her know that they were going to have
Speaker 2: chip nails dancers. They didn't let her know that she
Speaker 2: was going to be in the chair, right.
Speaker 3: This is where it's all a fine line. But then
Speaker 3: Zack tells her they're shitty friends. So now she feels
Speaker 3: like she's forced between her marriage and mom talk.
Speaker 1: But then this is where he loses it.
Speaker 3: He decided he's done with the conversation and tries to
Speaker 3: break the fourth wall and tell production he's done doing it,
Speaker 3: and then she's like, no, you're going to sit down
Speaker 3: right now and we're going to do this right now.
Speaker 3: And what we have to remember is that this point,
Speaker 3: we're still believing that he's trying to reconcile with her
Speaker 3: that she hasn't forgiven him. But then shortly after, oh,
Speaker 3: it just gets bad. But that's where we leave it.
Speaker 3: They cut the cameras they finish up, and then we
Speaker 3: get through Whitney's home video where we see Connor and
Speaker 3: her arrive at the hospital. She's in labor, she has
Speaker 3: the baby. They show it. There's nothing really to report here.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, congratulations. I do have a question. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously those are home videos, and I mean, who do
Speaker 2: you think actually blurred out this spready goal? Do you
Speaker 2: think it was production or do you think it was
Speaker 2: her husband?
Speaker 3: It was definitely production, because yeah, remember when she had
Speaker 3: everybody eat that cake. I forget what the cake was.
Speaker 3: Oh it is the cake. Last season she had everybody
Speaker 3: eat a cake, but it had her pea stick in it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, she's like the lids on it. It's
Speaker 2: sealed too, no sick.
Speaker 3: So clearly production had to step in for this. Then
Speaker 3: some of the Mom Top Girl els get together at
Speaker 3: the pumpkin patch. Jen has been off the grid and
Speaker 3: Jesse doesn't mind. Miranda shows up with her kids. Jin
Speaker 3: and Miranda have been getting really close. Then we get
Speaker 3: to Taylor and Miranda stay back to talk while the
Speaker 3: other girls go into the corn maze. I hate a
Speaker 3: corn maze. For the record, Miranda says the farthest she
Speaker 3: ever went with anyone was kissing. But this is where
Speaker 3: we learned a lot. Taylor clarifies that she never met sex.
Speaker 3: She just meant they were all doing things together, and
Speaker 3: this is where a lot of the things.
Speaker 1: They had sex in the shower.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to know how big that
Speaker 2: shower is.
Speaker 1: I want to know if you've done it.
Speaker 2: Don't drop the soap.
Speaker 1: Thumbs up if.
Speaker 3: You've done any of these things. They had sex in
Speaker 3: the shower with.
Speaker 2: A group as a group. Yes, I've never had.
Speaker 1: Any I'm saying thumbs up.
Speaker 2: If you have, Okay, I thought you wanted me to
Speaker 2: thumb up. If I've ever had group sex and a show,
Speaker 2: I'm going through the entire list of five, So thumbs up.
Speaker 3: If you've done any of these five things. They had
Speaker 3: sex in the same bed at the same time. You've
Speaker 3: never had sex with other people with another person in
Speaker 3: the same bed as you. No, I did when I
Speaker 3: was younger. No, I didn't like we had one room
Speaker 3: and it was like one person was on one side
Speaker 3: of the bed and the other person was on the other.
Speaker 3: The other couple was on the other side of the bed.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking couples.
Speaker 3: Couples people like we we only had. They're not mixing
Speaker 3: having sex with each other. They're just all having sex
Speaker 3: in the same room.
Speaker 1: You've done that?
Speaker 2: No, I swear I haven't. I haven't. I honestly haven't.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, I am old and I have
Speaker 2: a lot of ears on me, but not that I've never.
Speaker 3: Had sex in a room where somebody else is having sex.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're confused by the question. So i'mone
Speaker 1: asking No.
Speaker 2: I know that I'm not an idiot. I know the question.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying no.
Speaker 3: Hold on now, I need to know.
Speaker 1: Maddie and Tara, have you.
Speaker 3: Guys ever had sex in the room where somebody else
Speaker 3: has been They both said, No, Am I a Hoseby's
Speaker 3: you're a hosebast Yes? Oh shit, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wish Matt was here. Matt's out of town. Cayden, Cayden, get.
Speaker 2: Out of town too.
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 2: We're today to make it clear.
Speaker 3: I didn't have sex with anybody else's boyfriends while.
Speaker 2: I don't try to backtrack.
Speaker 3: Ever. God, fine, I kind of feel like Taylors miss
Speaker 3: led the extent.
Speaker 2: Did you blindfold each other too?
Speaker 3: It was like after a party, we all were in
Speaker 3: one hotel room and we all had sex.
Speaker 2: Alcohol was involved in this, Yes.
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to give a shout out to
Speaker 3: who it was. Ben Affleck absolutely not Matt Damon. No,
Speaker 3: then it's they would blindfold each other and have to
Speaker 3: guess whose husbands they were kissing.
Speaker 2: I have not done that. I've never done that.
Speaker 1: I have never done that.
Speaker 3: They also had a night where the four husbands and
Speaker 3: Taylor and and the two guys filmed the two girls
Speaker 3: making out.
Speaker 1: Haven't done that.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that the videos haven't leaked. But okay, So Miranda,
Speaker 2: do you think maybe you know obviously I don't know
Speaker 2: if you want to call it denial, but she's probably
Speaker 2: extremely embarrassed about what went down. Maybe she doesn't want
Speaker 2: the public to know everything. And I don't think it
Speaker 2: really makes her a liar. It's maybe like I really
Speaker 2: don't want this shit out there like that. Now it's
Speaker 2: going out there, it's gonna be out there forever. I
Speaker 2: have children, I have a church.
Speaker 3: I wish Her original statement was I don't want to
Speaker 3: get in the middle of this shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said that. She said I should not have
Speaker 2: denied it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think where she denied it's so much bigger
Speaker 3: than it was because clearly, looking at this, I mean
Speaker 3: what I do all of these things.
Speaker 1: No, clearly I've done one of them, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: You're admitting to so no, I would admit to any
Speaker 3: of them if any of the others happen. I make
Speaker 3: people pick who they think the hottest husbands are all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: You do, Yeah, like I would make you.
Speaker 3: Pick who the hottest husband of I wouldn't say, oh,
Speaker 3: see because it's too close to home. But think about
Speaker 3: it if we watch other shows, like if you had
Speaker 3: to pick somebody from the valley, who's the honest.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'd go in a romp with them.
Speaker 2: But then anyway, when they say one thing about Taylor. Though,
Speaker 2: when she was talking to Miranda at this time, she
Speaker 2: she admitted she goes I wasn't a good friend. I
Speaker 2: was not a good friend and I.
Speaker 3: Should and they both handled it different.
Speaker 2: For me, I can respect someone like Taylor, and some
Speaker 2: people might be like, oh, she's too harsh or whatever,
Speaker 2: but she's honest.
Speaker 3: And I think she was at her breaking point and
Speaker 3: that was her way of getting out. And when she
Speaker 3: decided she was getting out of her relationship, I think
Speaker 3: that's when Miranda really tried to dig in and see
Speaker 3: if her relationship could work. So they were saying anything
Speaker 3: to save it, and then she really don't want to
Speaker 3: step back, and then Hailey Bieber took over and is
Speaker 3: now in the same shit situation that good luck Hailey Bieber.
Speaker 2: So we when we interviewed the girls last week, they
Speaker 2: did not hear from Miranda, right, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Think they said Miranda didn't really bring it.
Speaker 2: Is that what they said Miranda didn't bring it or
Speaker 2: they're like not a big fan of hers, because as
Speaker 2: of now, I really like Miranda. I think she's absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2: I feel like she's very sweet. But let's see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I don't know that she's going to
Speaker 3: bring it, but it's the story that we needed to hear.
Speaker 3: I just don't know what the story will be after
Speaker 3: the storytelling. Yeah, then Macy and Taylor visit Whitney to
Speaker 3: check in on her postpartum. We flashed back to when
Speaker 3: Macey and Whitney met her recently to confront their issues.
Speaker 3: The two of them were texting when Whitney decided to
Speaker 3: post their text messages on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Whitney posting personal text messages like in a fight like that,
Speaker 2: to go after somebody on the talk on the talk
Speaker 2: is not very cool. I mean, you can't trust a
Speaker 2: friendship that's gone that far to do something like that,
Speaker 2: like if you're a text you're posting a text message
Speaker 2: like between me and you, like, oh I love you,
Speaker 2: did it whatever, sweet thing, but to make somebody look bad,
Speaker 2: no dirty.
Speaker 1: Also, then we get to the next.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll do it this year on the show.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure I'm going to do it too, right
Speaker 3: when we get off this phone.
Speaker 1: Right then, Jin went to the store to get a
Speaker 1: pregnancy test.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say this, with all these pregnancies, if
Speaker 3: these women don't have a life supply of clear blue
Speaker 3: easy and also like full time millions of dollars pantos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of, is when
Speaker 2: she pulled that out and they zoomed in on clearance,
Speaker 2: what's it? Clear and clear blue easy, clear blue and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, definitely, she has a sponsor or the network,
Speaker 2: does somebody does.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's part of LDS that you can't
Speaker 3: use birth control kind of looks like it, or if
Speaker 3: they just all use the pull up. I mean, once
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. I have a lot of questions.
Speaker 3: But either way, we find out that Jen's pregnant. She's
Speaker 3: before she even takes finishes taking the test, she's crying.
Speaker 3: She feels isolated from the girls.
Speaker 2: And I mean, this is the last thing she needs
Speaker 2: right now. Not only like, is she only twenty five,
Speaker 2: she's got two little kids.
Speaker 3: She's got two little kids, and she's trying to decide
Speaker 3: if the husband should come back or not. Does the
Speaker 3: husband work he's dropped out of med school.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's not bringing any money.
Speaker 1: Which is originally the point. This is turning into a
Speaker 1: shit show.
Speaker 3: And now we have another baby and we don't have
Speaker 3: I can't it's too many.
Speaker 2: Well, so she's making money off the show and off
Speaker 2: of here's the wild part.
Speaker 3: Mormons can use birth control the church. The LDS does
Speaker 3: not have an official policy against birth control. In fact,
Speaker 3: the church encourages couples to pray and counsel together to
Speaker 3: make decisions about family planning that are in line with
Speaker 3: their religious beliefs.
Speaker 2: So they're being irresponsible. I did some day, and you
Speaker 2: know that you're not in a good position. So why
Speaker 2: would you let this happen? Why would you?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, especially you find out this. I
Speaker 3: did some digging and found out that Zach used to
Speaker 3: sell bug spray before he went to med school.
Speaker 2: Oh like door to door.
Speaker 1: So I think Gen's always been the breadwinner.
Speaker 2: And Jen's main income is mom talk?
Speaker 3: Correct in these school posts.
Speaker 2: But okay, so how many how many girls are on
Speaker 2: mom talk? They are on this TikTok?
Speaker 1: The girls that were watching on the show.
Speaker 2: All of them are on. Because Whitney's not on some homework.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I don't w Whitney said she went back
Speaker 2: on mom talk.
Speaker 3: I know because she was just doing her own talk.
Speaker 2: Miranda's not on mom talk.
Speaker 3: So there's got to be like, is they're back on? Now?
Speaker 3: What we're watching is them asking to be back on,
Speaker 3: but right now they're back on.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go down the TikTok rabbit. I
Speaker 2: need try to handle there.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, all right, Well, guys, everybody go down the
Speaker 3: TikTok rabbit hole and let us know your thoughts and
Speaker 3: let me know if I'm the only one that did
Speaker 3: that thing in the hotel room with another, even though
Speaker 3: it was with the person I was with. I just
Speaker 3: need to know if it was just me, because everybody's
Speaker 3: pretending this has never happened to them in their life.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to go back to my memory bag.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back in this head of mine,
Speaker 2: you know, because I barely remember what I did yesterday,
Speaker 2: and see if I can remember, if it's fine.
Speaker 3: I already texted Eddie to see if that's ever happened
Speaker 3: for you, guys. Sorry, just kidding, all right, guys, thanks
Speaker 3: for tuning in for another episode of Two Teas in
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