WEBVTT - Skip Bishop 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:16.239 Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown. She's 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.400 only this side. You got the scoop on on the 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:28.360 ones side. No one can do with Clie Carola Carola. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:36.320 No one can do with Cli Carola Carola. Hey, y'all, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.800 welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.440 could be adult content. You guys, I am so excited. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.960 I have skipped Bishop joining me today. This guy is magical. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.000 It's the only way I can describe him. He You 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.319 see him, and he's like a musical wizard. He walks in, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.120 he has all these turquoise rings. He's got this wild hair, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.480 this huge, light, effervescent personality, and he comes in and 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.200 he literally cast a spell on you. He's amazing. I 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.160 got to work with him. He started a label called 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.800 Hit Shop Records, and we worked together. I worked on 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.440 his radio promotion team. It was an amazing experience. He ran. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.800 He was vice president of Sony Promotion, vice president of 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.000 a Risk of Promotion. He's worked in record labels in 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.640 the industry for over forty years. He's worked with Lisa Lowe, 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:36.759 Alan Jackson, Carrie Underwood, everyone at Sony. He's absolutely incredible. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.800 He has so many stories. He got started off as 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.040 a fake radio personality when he was a kid talking 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.959 into a cardboard box and performing for the whole neighborhood. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.160 He is incredible. His stories are great. So I'm so 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:54.600 excited you guys welcome skip Bishop. So I'm here with 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:59.320 Ski Bishops. So strange, it's fun. Is it weird that 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.400 I'm interviewing Yeah, it is your employee. I think I 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.520 interviewed you once for a job and then you made 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.040 me um from a special ops regional I did. That 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.960 was really fun. That was you know, that really worked. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.760 I really did. That was one of our craziest ideas. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.600 And it's just so worked. Did I really interview you 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.200 or did we just say, hey, should we do this? 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.600 I think you just said, hey, let's do this. I 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.880 think I did, so okay, so going back and we did, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.200 and we did, and we did a really good job. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.880 So I worked for you at hit Shop Records. To 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.560 all you guys listening, Skip Bishop is a promotion extraordinaire 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.480 which most people don't know anything about what record labels are, 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.000 or what working in promotions means or anything like that. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.520 It's a mysterious profession, it is, Isn't it kind of 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.760 give us a breakdown of what that even means to 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.680 be head of promotions at a record label. Yeah, I 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:57.440 can um, But you know, to someone who you know 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.320 out there in the in the outside world, they don't 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:05.360 really realize that there's this very mysterious profession called record 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:11.679 promoter and they sort of work in the shadows. They're 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:16.040 not openly known. But if they make it all happen, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.280 and you think about the importance of it that take 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.600 a great song like like the House of Building, the 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.280 House It built Me, or you can go all the 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.240 way back to Marvin Gay What's going On? Or Bob 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.880 Dylan like a Rolling Stone, and all these songs that 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:39.200 either launched a revolution or became the theme of a cause, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.400 or was maybe your daughter's first dance at a wedding, 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.360 or was something that will always remind you of a 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:54.200 beach relationship that you had in nineteen something. Somebody had 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.480 to get those records played. They did not just mysteriously 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.800 appear on the radio, which is what probably most people 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.240 think yeah, they think, ah, these songs are so great, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:09.040 and they and there is a machinery that that gets 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.080 records on the radio. There's there's a there's a serious profession, 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:19.160 there's an education process, there is an economic structure, their 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.040 staffs of usually at a record company, it's the biggest 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.960 staff on a record company. That the staff, right, that's 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.159 the thing. There's a huge staff that has to get 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.159 records played correct. It takes a team. It takes a 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.840 team that. It also takes about a mountain of money, 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.719 a ton of money. Yeah, it's really not. It's not cheap. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:40.800 It takes just you think about the travel alone. And 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.000 when you're trying to break a new artist, let's say, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.840 let's come up with an artist stealing angels. Oh my gosh. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.360 Those they never quite made it, did they? You know 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.440 they did. They did pretty darn well though. But you 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:57.600 think about just how many radio stations they walked into. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.600 I think it was a million dollars at least spent. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.880 It had to be, it had to be. And they 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:07.520 were so talented, thank you, thank you. Adorable stealing it's 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.920 so talented the world will never know. You know where 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.080 I saw stealing angels for the first time. I think 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.840 I told you this at Al Gore's house. Oh yeah, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.320 we did playoffs. Yeah, and that was the first time 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.520 I think I met you. And it was the first 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.640 time I saw stealing angels. And we got in trouble 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.400 there because we used to always like post pictures and 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.240 we always had video cameras, and we started videoing everything 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.480 in the Secret Service confiscated all of our videos. Oh yeah, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.760 I'm not surprised. And that was the first time I 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.040 ever really learned something about politics. That was quite a 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.240 that was quite a little event. A war said that 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.240 the lay public knows about two of what really goes on. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.880 I think I agree. But I think that in today's 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.920 immediate environment, immediate environment where you look at the things 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.320 that have happened in the last forty eight hours in politics, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.479 things are changing. People are starting to really be able 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.240 to because of social media and because of of everyone's 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:09.320 life being so broadcast and so visible that people are 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.919 starting to find out now that you can run, but 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:17.200 you can't hide. That's right. I mean, I'm I'm frightened 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.640 when I when I checked the news in the morning, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.839 which I do, I say, Alexa, can you give me 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:27.200 the news headlines. Did you re name Syria Alexa? Oh god, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:34.240 you are so yesterday cyber girlfriend Alexa is my cyber girlfriend, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.600 and she's also so many other people's cyber girlfriend's. That 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:43.000 site where married men go to cheats. You know what 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.320 I'm talking about. I certainly do not. I am. I 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.960 am married to the most beautiful woman in the world. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.800 Oh God, who happens to be in the room. So 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.400 I'll tell you the name of it later. Yes, your wife, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.160 your beautiful wife, Diane is joining us and m h 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.880 the dog and this is really cool. Emma used to 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.360 be your dog. Now Diane was never your wife's, but 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.560 Emma was your dog. And now Emma is our dog. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.760 So when I was working at head shop, I had 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.040 a friend who had Emma who ended up staying at 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.240 the house with this a show called a d D 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.640 dot com. Yeah, it's a rabbit trail. And so when 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.000 my friend Byron, he moved in with me in my 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.280 roommate Emily and his son Booker and Emma the dog, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.880 and then I ended up keeping Emma brought in the 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.280 office every day. You ended up falling in love with her, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.600 and now Emma is your dog. Yes, yeah, it's really funny, 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.440 and that you let us bring dogs to the office. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.600 It was a dog friendly environment. It was we had 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.000 rules if they if they pet on the floor, out 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.000 they went. Unless you're ruby. Yeah, your ruby can stay 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.240 on the floor. And they had to take their little 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.800 walks every day and if they made too much noise, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.960 they were banned. But they weren't banned for long because 0:07:55.000 --> 0:08:00.280 we missed them. We had a good time. It okay, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.840 when I ask you a few questions, a little rapid fire, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:06.840 I gotta move the Buddha all right. If you had 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:15.120 to have one word to describe yourself, what would it be? Tornadic? Tornadic? 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.640 I don't know why I came up with that. It's 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.000 just you have so many moving pieces swirling at all times. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.480 I am tornadic. I'm tornadic. My life is tornadic, but 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.720 in a good way, in a fantastic There is nothing 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.840 slow and peaceful going on in my life. It is 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.199 all one big spinning mess, and it's a beautiful mess. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.720 But you can juggle the spinning mess. I'm a juggler. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.439 How do you juggle the tornado? Tornadic spinning mess? I 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.720 don't know where I came up with tornadic. It just 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.640 just gave to me. I've I've always done that. I 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.880 like doing a lot of things, a lot of different things, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.199 and a lot of and have you know, a lot 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.520 of different interest and a lot of different friends, and 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.679 that you know, keep everybody connected, and it moves fast 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.560 and it's really exciting. I mean, my our audience over there, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.920 we were talking about was it twenty minutes ago that 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.720 we were thinking about doing this in New York? And 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.840 all of a sudden our lives have been spending sometimes 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.560 out of control, but mostly in control. For for as 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.560 long as I can ever remember it. I do like 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.600 it that one. What was your upbringing like? Did you 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.920 grow up with a lot of moving pieces all the time? 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:29.520 I did. My mother was an absolute, uh dynamic person. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:34.240 She raised myself and my sisters and uh she was 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:39.480 a high school teacher and she she she she wrote 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.200 books as her life went along. She had people in 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:43.920 and out of the house all the time. People would 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.440 come and stay in the house, and they would like 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.720 these these kids that were either bounced out of their 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.880 house or people that needed a place to stay for 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.480 six months. We're always in with us. And there was 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.640 like twelve people at the dinner table and everyone had 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.840 different less names where you eyes get it because you 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.280 and Diane always have like Sunday dinner and all everyone 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.600 in the neighborhood and their dogs, like everyone can come over. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.640 We do and they do. So you get that from 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.240 your mom, I guess. So. Yeah, she always said come one, 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.280 come all. Yeah, And it was it was a wonderful environment. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.040 I mean when I was a kid, people were sitting 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.840 around in our living room playing guitars and singing. And 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.320 some of them I knew who they were, and some 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.480 of them I didn't. They were poets, there were painters. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:31.960 It was all a very artistic group. Uh. Yeah, she was. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.360 She could draw. She she was a pretty good writer. Creative. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.520 she wrote a book and she wrote a weekly column 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.800 in the newspaper. And she was very very smart. But 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.960 she was crazy as hell. She was really wacky. Was 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.160 her crazy like could be annoying. It was a little annoying. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.240 She was. She loved to She was kind of a 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.240 somewhat of a puppet master. Okay, yeah, okay, so but yours, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.559 I've met your beautiful mother. Oh yes, my parents are fantastic, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.960 they really are. Your dad's very very cool too. I 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.640 met him. He survived a shark bite bite attacked to 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.640 the face. Excuse me, you didn't hear about that? The 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.480 World Wide Web, he was, We don't have the World 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:19.200 Wide Web yet. Over here on sneed Road, he was 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.000 spear fishing in the Bahamas with my whole family and 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.400 got a fish and a shark bit him in the face. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.640 And you're kidding. Yeah, he was excited about it. How 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.720 does his face look great? Just a few scars and 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.240 he thinks it adds character and I'm sure it does. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.680 That is so exciting. Where are you from, Danville, Virginia? 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.080 What brought you to Nashville? What brought you to music? 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:42.760 I know you haven't always been a Nashville You've been 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.880 in New York. You've done all sorts of record label stuff. Well, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.240 Nashville is kind of a funny story because we were 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.480 in h New York. We were living in New York 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.880 for a very long time. Love living in New York, Yes, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.400 and we miss it very much. Was there yesterday and 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.920 I called home and I said, we have got to 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.040 move back here because miss it, miss it, miss it. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:03.720 Do you think you love it? Love it? Love it? 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.120 I hope so at some point. But we love Nashville too. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.679 I mean we ideally we'd like to have a house 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.200 here in Nashville, a house in New York, and a 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.960 house in Mexico. You have to well we do you 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.520 have the Mexico in the Nashville. So I had it 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.360 would just skill a little apartment in New York, tiny, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.920 one little bitty. All you need is tiny apartment in 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.360 New York, a little bitty bitty. Our first department in 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.440 New York was about as big as the closet right 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.559 over there behind that curtain. Though it was great. The 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:37.599 living room, the dining room, the bedroom, the dressing room, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.960 and the den were all one room. And then there 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.040 was a kitchen that was separate. And it was really 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.320 that was it was like we go on vacation. We 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.120 go into the kitchen. It was like a trip. I 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.480 love that. It was very nice. So how did you 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.560 get into music and the music industry and all of 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.080 that from your town, your little town, because it was 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.719 your family. Never know, I've never done anything else to 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.040 do it, because it's I was born knowing that I 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.640 wanted to do it. You know what existed? Well, I'll 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.920 tell you why. Because when I was tiny, all I 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.840 did was listening to the radio. Just it's all I 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.320 ever did, and and collect records, and that's all I did. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.719 That's all I did, and I mean and it was 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.160 it was crazy. I tell the story all the time 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.959 that my parents used to tell because I remember when 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.880 I was really little, my parents bought some new carpet 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:38.040 and the carpet came in a huge cardboard roll. It 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.960 was like this big around and it was like about 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.760 seven two I guess it was about seven ft long. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.680 It was this big tube. And they pulled the carpet 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.600 out of the big tube and at the end of 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.240 you know, one end was wide open. The other end 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.240 was closed off and had a hole in it about 0:13:55.320 --> 0:14:01.360 this big. So I took the two the big carpet tube, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.079 and I put it on the porch and I put 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.240 propped it up on a propped it up on a chair. Yes, ma'am, 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:13.320 should we should? Should we have headsets on? But we don't, okay, 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:18.400 So I would I took my little record player out there, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.240 and what I would do is I put the I 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.280 propped the tube up on the railing and put the 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:29.240 other end on a chair, a ladder back chair, and 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.440 I would play a record on my record player, and 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.480 then I would talk into the hole like okay, that 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.840 was the searchers with bumblebee, And before you know it, 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.640 all my my buddies in the neighborhood, the kids in 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.720 the neighborhood would be sitting in the front yard and 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.360 I would do it every day I was there, DJ 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.080 and I would play it through the carpet thing and 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.480 I would I would move the tube over to the 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.400 record player when the record was playing, and then it 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.600 was time for me to talk, and I would change 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.680 records with one hand and talk about the record that 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.640 I was about to play. That's creative. Well, it was fun. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.080 And then the audience started getting bigger, and I thought, well, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.520 this is this is working. I'm building up a fan 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:18.480 base all right here on carpet Radio. Oh you should start, 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.160 I think so. And okay, it has a sad ending. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.720 Oh no. I left the carpet tube on the porch 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.800 and there was a very very bad storm and it 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.080 just warped it. How long did you have it? Weeks? 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.600 Months and maybe a month. I'm going to call it 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.560 six weeks, but you know, and I had first I 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:42.880 had to walk up and down the street and say 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:44.800 and say hey, guys, you need to come down and 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.320 find out that. You know, I'm doing something kind of fun. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.720 I'm playing all my favorite records and I dude. Okay, 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.840 the dude wasn't invented, but yeah, it was a blast. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.480 It was so much fun. And they would come and 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.680 then you know, get to your fan base that now 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.120 you're no longer going to DJ. Well, it was pretty sad. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.080 That's a little hard the neighborhood. Well, I found a 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:12.240 way around it. Yeah, I did. Um. I was every Saturday, 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.720 uh W y PR, which was the town's top forty 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.760 radio station, would broadcast from the Ballue Park Shopping Center, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:26.800 not Blue Balu Balu Park Shopping Center, and every Saturday, 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.480 Dandy Dan Henderson would go up there, and I started 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.880 riding my bike up to see Dandy Dan. I befriended him. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.160 I would go get coffee for Dandy Dan. I would 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.880 was his gopher and after a while he invited me 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.040 into the van and I would do things like you know, 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.040 used to work for free for people. Oh, absolutely, there 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.920 wasn't work. It was heaven. It was heaven. You were 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.840 his errand boy, I was his errand boy I would 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.920 do whatever he needed me to go get me a newspaper. Okay. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.360 Then he started making little quips about me on the air. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.560 He would say, you know, the skip the kid or 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.000 whatever he called me, is back again. But one day, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.720 one fateful day, this is shortly after the carpet tube incident. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.920 Am I moving too fast? How old am I? Now? 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:20.040 I'm really I'm I'm thirty eight. Now I was probably nine. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.360 I could have been somewhere between seven and nine, which 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.520 would have made me eight if my math is correct. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.720 I was eight. I could have been nine, Okay, so 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.880 somewhere in there, which would be eight. Anyway, So I've 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.480 been hanging out with Dandy Dan all day. I even went, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.760 oh by the way, I would get him coffee at 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.960 one store, and they knew I was getting it for dance, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.879 so they would give it to me for free. And 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.600 then I started going to the ice cream store and 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.440 they would I would say, I'm getting an ice cream 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.520 comfort for Dandy Dan, and then no, no, it was 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.439 for Dandy Dan. I would do one for myself of 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.840 course that was they never charge. It was like the jack. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.960 It was awesome. So what was the Fateful Day? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:08.000 I forgot about that part. A d D radio So 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.920 what happened was, is I take my ride my bike 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.320 home after I had a great day hanging out with 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:19.159 Dandy Dan It's been it was great, are having a 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.280 great day, so I am. I get home and the 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.800 Danville be which is the afternoon paper, the registered Danville 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.359 Register was the morning paper. The B was the afternoon paper. Okay, 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:37.119 let's review. Which one was the morning paper, the Register? 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.520 The Register was the morning paper. The afternoon paper was 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.920 the B. I get home Saturday afternoon. The Saturday B, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.280 that's what we referred to it as the Saturday B 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:52.280 is on the on the and I pick it up. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.159 I take the little rubber band off. Newspapers used to 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.280 come in rubber bands. I take it off and unfolded, 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.879 and right in the bottom of the front page it said, uh, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.000 soul singer. I don't even think they use the word 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.439 sould back then. R and B singer Sam Cook was 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:12.240 shot in his motel room in Los Angeles and is dead. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:19.400 Details Intomorrow's Sunday Register. And I thought, this is long 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.200 before you had you know, like internet or anything else, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.520 and you know Dandy Dance sitting out there enough, you 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.520 had breaking news. I had breaking news. I got on 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.600 my bike. I slammed that thing into the basket. It 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:35.000 was I was rank. You were just peddling as fast 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.640 as you could. Oh please, my little I was probably 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.280 about eight inches off the ground. You knew you had 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:44.359 breaking news? I did. I was thinking. I was thinking 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:49.280 Dan does not know this. This is big. So I'm peddling. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.399 So I go up and I, hey, am I you're 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:58.199 so excited. Oh boy? Uh? So I slide, you know, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.879 do a skid mark, and up the bike and I 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.400 walk up to the to the window of the van 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.000 and I just very cinematically pressed it up there against 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.840 the glass with with you know, my hair falling in 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.280 my face and I'm gasping for breath. I'd pedaled for 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.480 so hard. And Dan looks at it and he says, 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:20.600 this is a really big news. And as he said, 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:26.840 come in, you're going to have to read it. And 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.480 all of a sudden, did you of course? I did? 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.400 Did you find words? I did? I did? I got 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:41.520 into Oh of course not. They didn't ask about the carpet. 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.240 So I get into the van and he puts the 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.359 little headphones on me. Back then, they were ceramic. There 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.719 were ceramic headphones with like a metal thing going over 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.879 your head. And he says, what you're gonna hear is 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.000 you're going to hear do you know when news breaks 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.520 out whip breaks in? And I said, yeah, I know 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.760 what I've heard it on. He said, okay, when you 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:05.960 hear that. After that, you're going to hear the did 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.640 did did? And when you hear that, you read this. 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.720 And he took the actual piece from the from the 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:19.000 newspaper and he edited it. It's hard to say, that's 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.240 a tough one. Uh So luckily that word was not 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:26.280 in the copy. Yeah, he revised it much better. And 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.159 he said, you know, he took the whole thing and 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.560 then he tagged it out for w y PR News. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.840 I'm skip Bishop and he said, when you hear the 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.280 deep didet, I'm going to open your mic and you 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:40.800 read it just as it is. Yes, my heart was 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.840 coming out of my ears. Have you ever been that 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.440 nervous again in your life? Do you think now? No? 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.520 But I have to tell you I steadied myself right 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.359 before it all happened. And he was playing a record 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.480 that you do not remember because you weren't even thought 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:56.080 about back then, by an artist called Millie Small, and 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.879 the song was called my boy Lollipop. It was a 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.680 big record. Did you have a radio voice at eight 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.880 years old? So how did you talk real? A little 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.520 bit more high pitched back then? Probably I was eight 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.479 year old. Probably, I don't know what it sounded like. 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.359 There was no I don't I really, I don't know 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.480 if it was ever recorded. I doubt it. Uh. So Dan, 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.119 I'm we're listening to my boy Lillypop. That it Di 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.720 did you make my heart go flip? It flop? That 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.520 it did it? And all of a sudden, bam, he 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:30.000 hits the news sounder. Boom when news breaks out, whipper 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.760 breaks in and then the deep did he did heat start? 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.000 And what Dan did, which was a mistake and I 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.159 will never forget it, and I knew it was a 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.520 mistake when he did it. He dumped out of the 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:47.240 record without turning it down, so it go went on 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.119 the air. But then the sounder came in, so it 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.760 was like Millie Small was singing along and people were 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.320 grooving in their cars, and then it was boom down 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.760 when news breaks out. So I said, oh my god, damn, 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.880 that's wasn't cool, man? Uh in my head, I said that. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:06.080 So the D D D comes on and I read 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:10.840