Speaker 1: Getting the ball out quicker. Um against you guys to
Speaker 1: combat the aggressiveness of the front, How can you what
Speaker 1: can you guys do to combat that? Um? Well, I
Speaker 1: think there's a couple of things. First, UM, some of
Speaker 1: those things you have a hard time stopping. But it
Speaker 1: puts more of an emphasis on your third down defense.
Speaker 1: And in this last game, if he was going to
Speaker 1: get it out quick, we had to we had to
Speaker 1: find a way to win on third down. We didn't
Speaker 1: do that. And you know, if you almost say small ball,
Speaker 1: but if you make them try to continue drives and
Speaker 1: and make plays or make drives without getting big plays
Speaker 1: and getting the ball out quick, then we got to
Speaker 1: put bigger emphasis on getting off to fail. We always
Speaker 1: put an emphasis on third down, but we have to
Speaker 1: we have to find a way to get off the
Speaker 1: field on third down. So it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with it. But coverage goes hand in hand with
Speaker 1: rush and UM. You know, if we can get those
Speaker 1: guys covered well enough then that you know that you
Speaker 1: know they can make the quarterback hold the ball a
Speaker 1: little bit longer. I think the other part that goes
Speaker 1: into it is third down. You know, if you can hold,
Speaker 1: if you can put them in third down in long situations,
Speaker 1: can't throw quick, you know, So I think all of
Speaker 1: those things go hand in hand, combination, rush, end coverage.
Speaker 1: A specific third down it was thirty five and both
Speaker 1: cornerbacks were playing about ten yards off and Aaron went
Speaker 1: right at McKelvin and hit Jordy Nelson for thirteen yards.
Speaker 1: I know that it's up to the cornerback to the side.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're playing press or off. But in that circumstance,
Speaker 1: is that Is that the technique that you want or
Speaker 1: why do we see them playing off? It seemed like
Speaker 1: too much. Well, there's a lot of things that go
Speaker 1: into up off from disguise. You know, if you're up
Speaker 1: so many times, you dictate what routes you're getting a
Speaker 1: lot of times those are deeper routes if you're up,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're off, sometimes you're getting shorter routes.
Speaker 1: I think both of them are effective techniques. We didn't
Speaker 1: play our technique very well. We didn't deny inn breakers,
Speaker 1: which is a big part of this. And you can
Speaker 1: deny in breakers from being up or being off. We've
Speaker 1: done that, and then you can play short routes from off.
Speaker 1: But you just can't give any ground you have to stick.
Speaker 1: I think it was more of a technique than it
Speaker 1: was our actual alignment. You have to be able to
Speaker 1: mix it up. You can't give them a steady dose
Speaker 1: of any one thing. But I think it also goes
Speaker 1: into what I said before. You know, third down and five,
Speaker 1: third down and one third down and two, those are
Speaker 1: a lot more difficult with that quarterback, with that offense.
Speaker 1: We need to find a way to get them into
Speaker 1: more third down and longs. And we didn't do a
Speaker 1: good enough job in this game. Is there anything that
Speaker 1: it could be done to help you guys with Fletcher Cox,
Speaker 1: you know the production schematically well, you know, honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: not really worried about anybody any one player's production. We're
Speaker 1: worried about the production of our defense. We haven't had
Speaker 1: We haven't had sacks the last couple of weeks. We
Speaker 1: need sacks to be able to help our team. That
Speaker 1: puts them in third down and longs. It gets off
Speaker 1: the field on third and long, It forces turners, forced
Speaker 1: turnovers last couple of weeks. Um, I think that the
Speaker 1: best way to help any individual player is the other
Speaker 1: players around him do his job and he does his
Speaker 1: job the best, and you can't. You can't the best
Speaker 1: he can, and you can't get frustrated, and you can't
Speaker 1: press to try to make a play, because that's when
Speaker 1: you start bleeding in other places. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, Fletch understands that it's the performance of our defense.
Speaker 1: He's not a selfish player. Maybe this is the emphasis
Speaker 1: every week. Tell me if it is. But with a
Speaker 1: guy like Rogers, do you particularly want to disrupt early,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, gosh, he seemed to get
Speaker 1: into a rhythm where he felt really, really comfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's the that's the object all
Speaker 1: the time. I think it was I don't know, one
Speaker 1: of the second players at that game, we blitched and
Speaker 1: he ripped the ball out to that slot player. We
Speaker 1: got a great chance there. We didn't make tackle. Um
Speaker 1: you know that that could have gone a long way. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Mills had tight coverage on Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: knocks the ball away, Jordy falls on his back and
Speaker 1: the ball falls right to him. And sometimes sometimes you're
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of those and um, you know,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't change our job. We have to do
Speaker 1: something to help our team win. We didn't do anything
Speaker 1: to help our team win, you know, and you could
Speaker 1: probably make a case and our other losses that we
Speaker 1: did something to try to put us in position to win. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we'd always didn't play our best. We might
Speaker 1: not have played well enough to win, but we did something.
Speaker 1: Particularly this last game, we were pour on third down,
Speaker 1: we didn't get turnovers. UM. You know, we allowed long drives.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked a long time earlier this season
Speaker 1: about long drives and how our offense was controlling the
Speaker 1: ball and our defense was getting off the field, and
Speaker 1: it was a great formula. UM. You know, we self
Speaker 1: inflicted allowed a lot of long drives off sides on
Speaker 1: third down, rough to quarterback after we got to stop. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, we had twelve guys on the pump return team. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, and in my mind, that's a defensive thing.
Speaker 1: That's that's not a special team things. Most of those
Speaker 1: guys are defensive players anyway, UM gave them another chance
Speaker 1: to come bird. All those led to points. And you know,
Speaker 1: it goes back to the first question. When you play
Speaker 1: an offense, that's um, that's highly efficient, that's hot. UM.
Speaker 1: When you have opportunities. You can't make mistakes. We made
Speaker 1: too many mistakes in that game, and mistakes for the
Speaker 1: most part, came on third down. Liars. This year, it's
Speaker 1: been a problem of free exchag. What's that reflective of?
Speaker 1: You know, I think that early in yeah, we did.
Speaker 1: We had a couple where we rough to quarterback that
Speaker 1: we were off the field on third down, and it
Speaker 1: kept it alive. I think it goes back to, you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you want to rush the passer and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be around the quarterback, there's going to be
Speaker 1: some of those. Um, some of them are going to
Speaker 1: be unavoidable. I don't think any of these were unavoidable,
Speaker 1: any of the ones we've had. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: specific strike zone on the quarterback and and you know
Speaker 1: you have to be hit in the frame. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: can get unlucky, you can duck his head, you can
Speaker 1: hit him in the head. Sometimes you can knock get
Speaker 1: knocked into a guy and go low. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's up to us as pass rushers, it's
Speaker 1: up to us as blitzers not to put us in
Speaker 1: those in those positions, whether you know, I mean, and
Speaker 1: it's a competitive game. You know you're going to get,
Speaker 1: you know, a defensive hold or a pass interference. If
Speaker 1: you're playing tight coverage, Um, you know you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna get some hits on the quarterback that you know
Speaker 1: are sort of unavoidable. But there's been plenty that have
Speaker 1: been avoidable, and when we've committed those, it's put our
Speaker 1: team at risk and we haven't won games as a result.
Speaker 1: And they're hard lessons to learn. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: for us to get where we want to get to,
Speaker 1: us a defense and as a team, we have to
Speaker 1: put that behind us. Back to the sacks. First first
Speaker 1: six games, you have twenty six. Last five you have six.
Speaker 1: Am I making too much of that disparity or it
Speaker 1: has something changed. No, I don't think there's anything changed.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's opponent. Um. You know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: ball comes out quick and you have to do a
Speaker 1: good job in coverage, and you know, if they want
Speaker 1: to try to get it out quick, you have to
Speaker 1: you know, get off the field on third down. And
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of ways to avoid SAX.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure offensive coordinators go in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this team, um can generate pressure. This team has made
Speaker 1: big play, sacking the quarterback force and turnovers and things
Speaker 1: like that. So that's going to be their objective to
Speaker 1: stay away. I think a lot of it also can
Speaker 1: do with can deal with score games. A lot of
Speaker 1: those early games we had nice leads, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's easy to rush the pass or when you have
Speaker 1: when you have a good lead. We haven't had as
Speaker 1: many leads. I think, um, Atlanta probably is the outlier
Speaker 1: or the outlier in there. Um, regardless of how you
Speaker 1: get it done. We got to keep points off the board.
Speaker 1: And our goal isn't to get sacks, even though sacks
Speaker 1: help us accomplish that. You know, our goal isn't to
Speaker 1: you know, stop rushing yards or stop passing. Our jobs
Speaker 1: to keep points off the board, and particularly these last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I don't think we've done a good
Speaker 1: enough job of that. Um. You know, we got to
Speaker 1: take advantage of the opportunities we have. If you're not
Speaker 1: making those big plays, you're not making those game changing plays,
Speaker 1: then you've got to find a way to make to
Speaker 1: make the don't know what you call him, the nondescript plays,
Speaker 1: make them efficient and just out efficient. The offense should
Speaker 1: start and play the full entire game over the others. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the way that the game
Speaker 1: before came. You know, Jalen had a rough outing against Seattle,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, gave up a lot of plays
Speaker 1: in that game too. He's a rookie. He's going to
Speaker 1: have some up and downs. We're trying to manage that
Speaker 1: corner position, trying to you know, get a good rotation
Speaker 1: in there. I think all those guys have made enough
Speaker 1: plays to continue to deserve playing. Why don't you talk
Speaker 1: after games? I just I just do what the league
Speaker 1: requires us to do. When you see the fact that
Speaker 1: you know, the players, obviously they have to talk afterwards
Speaker 1: to you know, to take the face that kind of accountability.
Speaker 1: The head coach has to talk three times before we
Speaker 1: have a chance to talk to you. And even though
Speaker 1: that you're in charge of the defense. I mean, can
Speaker 1: you see where there's people answering where maybe you know
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity where you could be well, I mean
Speaker 1: we could move up earlier in the week. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what's required. And um, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to take away from coach Peterson on game day.
Speaker 1: I've been a head coach before I understand the way
Speaker 1: that goes. I mean, there needs to be one voice,
Speaker 1: and I think that's, uh, that's important. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not. I'm certainly not. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't know me well enough to think that I'm
Speaker 1: getting away from accountability. There is absolutely no question about that.
Speaker 1: We're all accountable. And UM, I take incredible pride and
Speaker 1: what we do defensively, and I take ultimate responsibility for
Speaker 1: what we're doing defense. But I'm a defensive coordinator. When
Speaker 1: when you see the number of mistakes they're being made,
Speaker 1: whether it's a technique or just some dumb mistakes, are
Speaker 1: you confident you've got the defense's attention? Where have you
Speaker 1: run it through your mind that you might need to
Speaker 1: shake a little thing up to get it? You know,
Speaker 1: I think shaking things up for the say of shaking
Speaker 1: things up can be overblown at times. UM, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's anything lacking in attention. UM. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a competitive game. This is the ultimate competition,
Speaker 1: and you know, and nobody's trying to make a mistake.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a couple of plays in this
Speaker 1: game where we didn't perform very well, and um, you
Speaker 1: know we got to do a better job of it
Speaker 1: rushing quarterbacks to get the ball out quickly. How how
Speaker 1: does it differ trying to attack a guy like Rogers
Speaker 1: who can run for first down so you can escape,
Speaker 1: as opposed to a guy like Eli who's you know,
Speaker 1: is not going anywhere. Yeah, it's it's it is different.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that I think the difference there
Speaker 1: is that the last couple of weeks we faced offenses
Speaker 1: that had quick throws in their offense, but also they
Speaker 1: had quarterbacks that could extend plays. And you know, even
Speaker 1: if you want in pass rush, you really couldn't. You
Speaker 1: really couldn't. Winning in pass rush didn't mean you won't
Speaker 1: sack the quarterback because not only did you had to
Speaker 1: defeat a blocker, but you had to but you had
Speaker 1: to be able to get to quarterback on the ground.
Speaker 1: Sometimes these quarterbacks were going straight backwards by in time,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's hard they you know, they're
Speaker 1: not trying to get sacked either. They're they're they're trying
Speaker 1: their very best to can stay out of those long
Speaker 1: yardage situations. Every rush plan is a little bit different.
Speaker 1: The quarterback definitely has a lot to play in it.
Speaker 1: Every quarterback has a pattern where they rush. Some guys
Speaker 1: are step up guys, some guys are escape outside, some
Speaker 1: guys are escaped backwards. UM. So every game plan is
Speaker 1: a little bit different, both both in a blitz game
Speaker 1: and a rush game. The scrambling guys do put incredible
Speaker 1: pressure on you, um and particularly when you combine that
Speaker 1: with ability to throw quick I mean, it's life in
Speaker 1: the NFL. There's good players in the NFL, scoring defense.
Speaker 1: Whatever theresing objective for you, each less than with the
Speaker 1: less than than what we score. Every game is different,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean there's going to be some shootouts.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've really had the high scoring. You
Speaker 1: have to more than thirty this year, so there hasn't
Speaker 1: been shootouts. Per Se said, you go in within a
Speaker 1: number of minder Not really, not really. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think every drive is different, and you know, every drive
Speaker 1: our goal is to get off that field and not
Speaker 1: allow points or to minimize points. Sometimes you can't do
Speaker 1: anything about a drive. You know, you turn if the
Speaker 1: offense turns the ball over on the you know, ten
Speaker 1: yard line, it's going to be hard to hold them
Speaker 1: to zero points in that case, Um, you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't change our job. Our job is to minimize scoring,
Speaker 1: to be able to get off the field on those
Speaker 1: It puts some emphasis on red zone. We've been a
Speaker 1: decent red zone team. We've been a decent third down
Speaker 1: team until this last week. We got to get back
Speaker 1: to doing that. We play good situational foot off the
Speaker 1: field on third down, get red zone stops. I think
Speaker 1: the big thing that's been missing the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks have been the takeaways and to be a the
Speaker 1: ability to create lost yardage place to put teams behind
Speaker 1: the chains, put teams in those third and extra longs,
Speaker 1: second and extra longs, and when we do, particularly this
Speaker 1: last game, we couldn't get them off track. But when
Speaker 1: we do that, things work good for us. When we don't,
Speaker 1: we haven't held them to enough, well we haven't. We
Speaker 1: haven't limited their scoring enough. What kind of the vombit
Speaker 1: does Doug had in game planning during the week on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball and during the game, well,
Speaker 1: during the game, he's basically managing the game when it
Speaker 1: comes to timeouts, when it comes to you know, challenge,
Speaker 1: when it comes to field position, you know, different things
Speaker 1: like that. And sometimes we'll talk in between a series
Speaker 1: where he'll he'll talk about offensive philosophy and what they're
Speaker 1: going to do and give us a heads up them
Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down and things like that. During
Speaker 1: the week, um you know, in terms of defensive scheme
Speaker 1: and okay, no, but and during the week he's aware
Speaker 1: of everything we do and we we we bounced some
Speaker 1: things off of him from an offensive standpoint. Hey, we're
Speaker 1: thinking about doing this. How would this affect you? Um,
Speaker 1: I think he's got good expertise in that and um
Speaker 1: you know, out on the practice field, he gives us
Speaker 1: a lot of good I say, feedback, But um, you
Speaker 1: know that perspective helps an awful lot during the week,
Speaker 1: and he's old to see you can compare it to
Speaker 1: something you see. Um you know, he's not as he's
Speaker 1: not as mobile and as not as much a threat
Speaker 1: as the last couple of guys we played, but he
Speaker 1: can still make a lot of scramble plays. And I
Speaker 1: probably put him a little bit more in the Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins range when it came to that that's not his
Speaker 1: main objective, but he can still, um you know, he
Speaker 1: can still make you pay if you're out of your
Speaker 1: past rush lanes or um you know, read option stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. I think he's a very
Speaker 1: efficient quarterback. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He
Speaker 1: he takes what the defense gives him. He doesn't get um.
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't get UM. I won't say overly aggressive.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not a good He doesn't. He doesn't
Speaker 1: make a lot of bad decisions. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think that he's one of those guys that you know,
Speaker 1: he had obviously A J. Green was a difference maker
Speaker 1: for him, had a lot of confidence in him throwing
Speaker 1: the ball up. Um Effort didn't have him early in
Speaker 1: the season. Now he has him. Um, he has some
Speaker 1: trust in those guys. But he's a guy that recognizes
Speaker 1: things pretty quickly and tries to take what the defense
Speaker 1: gives him. We have to take his first look away.
Speaker 1: We have to be able to take that away and
Speaker 1: be able to force him to hold it a little
Speaker 1: bit longer and try to make him make some unwise decisions,
Speaker 1: trying to make him fit some tight throws in there.
Speaker 1: If we can do a good job of that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we can have a good day.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys,