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Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You

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Speaker 1: can visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe

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Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm

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Speaker 1: playing along with Harry Mack.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing lo wey.

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Speaker 1: I'm just playing lone weazy.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm Nora and with me is

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Speaker 1: Sarah Oda. Hello, and welcome to our show. Hello.

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Speaker 4: Our guest today is the incredible freestyle wrapper who has

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Speaker 4: gone viral for his off the top of the Dome

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Speaker 4: rhymes improvisation. He's truly one of the best out there,

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Speaker 4: Harry Mack. He's built a massive global following through omegal

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Speaker 4: and YouTube doing freestyle sessions. You've seen him everywhere from

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Speaker 4: the Venice boardwalk to Times Square, just going up to

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Speaker 4: strangers and asking for words and making up rhymes in

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Speaker 4: real time. What he does is seriously just nomenal. It's unbelievable. Actually,

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Speaker 4: I'm personally a huge fan. If you can't tell, yes,

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Speaker 4: and his energy is very positive and contagious, and I

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Speaker 4: felt like just doing that here in this room was

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Speaker 4: super fun.

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Speaker 1: It was so fun, And yeah, I second everything you said.

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Speaker 1: Everything he does is kind of mind blowing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and his energy was so great, and he plays drums,

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Speaker 1: but he has not played as much drums as he

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Speaker 1: we definitely talked about him playing drums on a few

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Speaker 1: songs or maybe at least one song, but he ended

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Speaker 1: up playing on everything. Yeah, and that was super fun,

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Speaker 1: super fun. Yeah, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: We did things a little differently because we were, you know,

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Speaker 4: improvising a lot.

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Speaker 1: We used words from.

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Speaker 4: Our crew in the control room to kind of try

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear about his background.

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Speaker 4: How he sort of discovered this superpower that he has.

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Speaker 4: You're going to hear about the amount of energy that

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Speaker 4: it takes mentally and physically to just pull off what

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Speaker 4: like the amount of brain power like just to be

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Speaker 4: a human dictionary all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I didn't have the brain power to

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Speaker 1: even trust myself to split out words random words in general,

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Speaker 1: so I had to have a hat full of like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like he and then he has he has two brands.

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Speaker 4: One is thinking of the rhymes while the other one's

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Speaker 4: saying that it's really wild anyway, and keeping with his style,

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Speaker 4: we did all improvised songs.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, stay tuned. It was really fun enjoy the

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Speaker 1: episode with Harry mack so hey, thanks for coming.

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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you so much for having me. It's it's

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Speaker 6: so awesome to be here.

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Speaker 1: It's creepy to me you yeah, likewise, Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned that you're going to be on the show

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Speaker 1: a few people. Cool, and I mean I've been getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of big excitement from oh really from just anyone?

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Speaker 6: Oh awesome, yeah, awesome. Well, no, I'm it's it's a

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Speaker 6: it's an honor to be here. Truly. I'm such a

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Speaker 6: fan of you and your musicianship and your artistry. And

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Speaker 6: I actually wasn't aware of your podcast until you reached

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Speaker 6: out and then I had the joy of checking some

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Speaker 6: of it out. Oh cool, and I love it. I

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Speaker 6: listened to the episode that you did with Brian Blade.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you a fan? You're a huge fan.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I got to see uh Brian Blade with

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Speaker 6: Wayne Shorter when I was when i was young.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Up in Portland, Oregon, where I'm from, my dad

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Speaker 6: took me to see that show, and so I've been

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Speaker 6: a huge fan of his since then and so cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's in town right now playing.

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Speaker 6: Oh really Yeah, Oh amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think he's playing at Dizsea's the next few nights. Awesome.

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Speaker 6: No, he's so great. And I loved your guys' conversation

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Speaker 6: and yeah, and I checked out you in logic as well.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's obviously so great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's loved that. So yeah, it's fun for me

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Speaker 1: because I don't ever play with rappers, you know, because

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of what you do is insane.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 6: It's a little crazy. Yeah, well, thank you. No, it's

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Speaker 6: it's awesome. I'm I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I it's always fun to start with music.

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Speaker 1: That's why I asked you to play for a minute.

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Speaker 1: But you want to try a thing.

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Speaker 6: Let's try a thing.

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Speaker 1: A thing, so you freestyle freestyle? Yes, okay, and you're

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Speaker 6: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But what do you like to do? Do you have

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Speaker 6: Or yeah, I brought so I'm open. You know, I'm

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Speaker 6: an improviser, but so I brought like some drum tracks

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Speaker 1: Or you're sitting at the drumm.

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Speaker 6: Sitting at it, it feels, you know, like because I'm

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Speaker 6: So maybe all right, yeah, okay, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'll give you stuff. How do you know?

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Speaker 1: I was like, I've seen you do it both ways

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I've done it both ways. Okay,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if there's one that you'd be more

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Speaker 1: Well, when I was thinking about feeding you words while

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Speaker 6: Yeah I can't either. That's a funny thing when other

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Speaker 6: rappers are like, okay, now you throw me words, and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, wow, this part's way harder to be.

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Speaker 1: The actual I have some I asked a cheat, I

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Speaker 1: Why don't we do the ones where I give him

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is so new for me, so I love it.

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Speaker 1: I had everyone in our control room write down some stuff.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to pull it out of a hat.

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Speaker 1: It awesome, okay. Commonplace, commonplace Okay, see is it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool because I feel like they were trying to,

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Speaker 6: I like that. Okay, yeah, I like a challenge. Well, commonplace, commonplace,

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Speaker 6: which is like regular, normal, frequently occurring.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, commonplace extinguish.

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Speaker 6: Extinguish, yes, good, all right, clarify, clarify these feel okay,

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Speaker 6: these are good. Okay, let's get two more.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Parachute, parachute toe, that's mine.

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Speaker 6: That's good. Finally, a one syllable word.

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Speaker 1: I felt like it called for.

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Speaker 6: No, It was definitely called for all right. So let

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Speaker 6: me let me summarize. Let me say if I even

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Speaker 6: remember them all commonplace, extinguish, clarify, parachute, and tow. Those

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Speaker 6: are the words.

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Speaker 7: Do you mind?

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Speaker 1: If I play with you?

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Speaker 6: I would love you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I won't get fancy.

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Speaker 6: No, please do your thing.

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Speaker 1: This is all, I'll let you start.

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Speaker 6: Let's see something simple on the drums, I think so

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Speaker 6: I can hopefully remember these words. Uh here we go,

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Speaker 6: Come on yeah, one to one two, Uh yeah, one

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Speaker 6: to one two. At the dawn, we're gon rocket for you. Listen,

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Speaker 6: kick your free styles out of my face. Have regainst

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Speaker 6: your mental track is about to get laced. I'm about

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Speaker 6: to break you off with the taste. It's nothing new

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Speaker 6: for me. Honestly, it's common place. This is regular. Got

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Speaker 6: hear it. I let these liprics eminate from a spirit

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Speaker 6: I do. We better to win the mom and man,

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Speaker 6: y'all know why you're bracing to be real, I'm feeling

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Speaker 6: quite calm in this place, So let's do it. We're

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Speaker 6: to put the letter kick deliveries out of the clipper rhymes.

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Speaker 6: They couldn't measure reaching that every time I bring this,

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Speaker 6: lift you higher with the fire can never be extinguished.

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Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, and y'all know what, keep it clever

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Speaker 6: compared to fire mistake with shamafa weather, I move like

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Speaker 6: I'm never tending my flow within it. In the competition,

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Speaker 6: I'm winning it off the top of the dome. Win

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Speaker 6: nor Red Jones skin the popping. We never stopping. We

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Speaker 6: leave it with no option. I'm gonna find up these

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Speaker 6: rhyming concoccious Yeah, you win the better off the top

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Speaker 6: heavy guy I hopped on the podcast. It's the clever Fire.

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Speaker 6: Just in case you did to note, we gonna make

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Speaker 6: to put the realness. I put the thing in nervous system,

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Speaker 6: Henry's creations afterwards, they been asking for my clearification. Well

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be slipping when i'd be ripping. I go

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Speaker 6: hard with the planes. So when the damn name is

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Speaker 6: loop taking wrists like I jump with the pearroshore, I said,

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Speaker 6: thinking about to sweet me all year, yeah, and whinning

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Speaker 6: the kin like a pearachue with some holes in there.

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Speaker 6: Y'all know if I'm not for tending when I get

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Speaker 6: the rhyme, then constellation. All my scars are in the lime.

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Speaker 6: There seven hundred and forty seven bars. I'm flying, jumping

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Speaker 6: on about the plane, whining, I'm kicking these fries this year.

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Speaker 6: Can y'all no one there provising with fair It provideses.

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Speaker 3: So y'all know we.

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Speaker 6: Build the plane in the air. Yes, then i'd be

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Speaker 6: adding on. I love the tight rope walk, plucking to

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Speaker 6: the systems and not shine. I'm making pie putting them

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Speaker 6: coming through the speakers, get to lift. They're like refast.

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Speaker 6: It's fraight, eh. I'm making out believers, whinn the fifth

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Speaker 3: And they told me it's like Dad Chap when.

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Speaker 6: We racket a beat from the type of thing gone

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Speaker 6: what chickts? Folks just seeing a rapper over performer. I

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Speaker 6: told them my jazz musician was sticking up be flipping

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Speaker 6: off the top of this A freestyle shortly lasted to

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Speaker 6: the popular list No for Jones and every neck collaboration

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Speaker 6: right now with no procrestitation.

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Speaker 1: What it's crazy?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, so you egged each other on. Oh

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Speaker 6: Yeah, friendly competition. Well yeah, because I never like. The

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Speaker 6: Or if you start something then I'll know what to do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. So I learned so much

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes till I.

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Speaker 1: Haven't lived just that life yet, exactly, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: It sounds horrible, but maybe if you're not, if you're

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Speaker 5: But that's not at all.

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Speaker 6: It's not that though. I think, well, you know, and

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Can you imagine if you were singing it's like I'm

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Speaker 6: Well it's also funny. Yeah, I mean, I awesome, I

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Speaker 6: I think it's a it's a cool thing, but it's

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, and and I think that's awesome. And

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Speaker 6: I do try to be really positive. I try to present,

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Speaker 6: And anytime I incorporate people, I'm trying to do it

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Speaker 1: You also said that, Ye, it's positive. Feeling is positive,

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Speaker 8: Ye yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't know for it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be same cam soon. We're gone the same

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Speaker 8: Hm, m hm h m hm. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna be sinking soon. They better be making room,

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Speaker 6: as in now we're gonna float on top. Yeah, when

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Speaker 6: need be broyning, y'all know we sitting the spy. I'm

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Speaker 6: coming to with the vision. Open gates. Time to listen.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna be spent right off at the top of

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Speaker 6: up top of causing the chain reaction.

438
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 3: Ready to hear it.

439
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 6: They love it the way that spending I lift the brown,

440
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 6: the fine, all the lots of physicess when I'm fitting

441
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 6: something too profound. They they didn't know we're probing the fire.

442
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 6: They know it now for about to make it happen.

443
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: Some way and somehow.

444
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 6: Gonna be sinking soon. We're trying to keep it the

445
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 6: float no over Jones and he read steak in the whole.

446
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: Gonna be singing soon. We're gonna saybody.

447
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, uh.

448
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 6: Listen, Yeah, We're gonna be sinking soon unless we can

449
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 6: channel the love, unless we can find a way to

450
00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 6: finally rise a everyone stopping to judge, nobody knowing what's real,

451
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 6: nobody taking the time, nobody knowing the deal. Tough for

452
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 6: some conversation, tough for some people to listen to, for

453
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 6: us all to come together. We got a bunt of

454
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 6: a vision. We gotta find a way to stop the

455
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 6: crash and stop the collision. Yeah, might not be rhyming.

456
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 6: Go when you bring like a mental decision, no more division,

457
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 6: weight not be wrapping up, bringing the people together, just

458
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 6: like we do with collaboration, forming the bart of his leather,

459
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 6: hoping that either shad or the kind of lasting forever

460
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 6: We're gonna say soon lest we can overcome it. I

461
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 6: know we fail the favorite times. It's too much to stomach.

462
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 6: I don't want to see us plumbing to the bottom.

463
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 6: So we do like macking North for Jonson, keep it

464
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 6: laughed and co.

465
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 7: Same SA.

466
00:22:54,560 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 6: So go go.

467
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 9: Say, oh my god, that's fun, super fun.

468
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 8: Co.

469
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah I can see this all day. Yeah, like, don't

470
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: get the drummagine now please.

471
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, this is dope. Yeah. I played with my

472
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 6: fingers too, because I wanted to do something something kind

473
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 6: of I don't know, something different, but but that was amazing.

474
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 6: And then I felt like on the first verse I

475
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 6: was just kind of rapping and then and then because

476
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 6: I'm just settling in, and then the second time around,

477
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, we're going to be sinking soon,

478
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 6: like let me talk about that.

479
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah that's positive, Yeah, which I love, you know, and

480
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: I think it's true.

481
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 6: I think it's a really uh wild time that we're

482
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 6: living through right now. So it's yeah, let's try not

483
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 6: to sink.

484
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 8: You know.

485
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm hoping.

486
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's awesome.

487
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: That was cool.

488
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that song is usually like a little swingy, but

489
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I was like, it kind of feels good, like like

490
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: bordering it. I'm not sure.

491
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was perfect.

492
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool. So the drums have you always played?

493
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 6: I've played the drums for basically as long as I've

494
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 6: been trying to figure out how to freestyle, for as

495
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 6: long as I've been loving.

496
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: Hip hop in middle school.

497
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 6: Both. Yeah, like ten or eleven years old, I think

498
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 6: for both. The drums, for sure, I started when I

499
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 6: was ten in fifth grade. My first instrument was the violin,

500
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 6: playing when I was seven, Yeah, which is a really

501
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 6: hard instrument. Yeah. I just remembered, like yeah, because it

502
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 6: took like a year to get a good sound.

503
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 8: You know.

504
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 6: There was the thing about the it was like the

505
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 6: barrier to entry is so difficult, it is.

506
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: It really weeds out a lot of people.

507
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to be patient, and I might might

508
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 6: have been particularly slow, but I just remember, like, the

509
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 6: first time you take the boat of the string, it

510
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 6: sounds horrible.

511
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was trying to nails on a chuck.

512
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, really awful. So it's not that inviting when it's like, okay, well,

513
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 6: eventually you might be able to produce a nice, nice sound.

514
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 6: But I did enjoy playing the violin and then but

515
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 6: I think I always really wanted to play the drums. Yeah,

516
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 6: and I had I've always felt like I have this

517
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 6: rhythm inside of me.

518
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Well, you have to to do what you're doing.

519
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah. A freestyle is is like a drum

520
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 6: solo with words.

521
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

522
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: And when you get to those fast triplets and you're

523
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: doing all.

524
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 6: That stuff, was like, ah, yeah, well and it's a

525
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 6: huge cheat code too for me as a freestyler. To

526
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 6: have this background as a drummer and the fact that

527
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 6: I kind of started both at the same time, they've

528
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 6: always sort of been inter for me and they've sort

529
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 6: of informed each other in different ways. And yeah, I

530
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 6: think you know, because I played jazz for many years

531
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 6: and gigged as a jazz.

532
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: Drummer, okay, straight ahead sort of yeah.

533
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 6: Like straight ahead yeah, lots I mean, you know, like

534
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 6: bar restaurant kind of gigs, freelancing, lots of like like

535
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 6: piano trio type style. Yeah, we too, Yeah, so I

536
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 6: know that's why so awesome. Yeah we share that in commons.

537
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 6: So cool and so yeah. But you know, a jazz

538
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 6: drummer or really a jazz musician of any kind, like

539
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 6: it's like we're improvising in rhythm, right, and for you

540
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 6: also in harmony and melody, but for the drums, it's

541
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 6: like I'm trying to tell a story by improvising in rhythm,

542
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 6: and so having that as sort of something that can

543
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 6: underpin my freestyles is incredibly helpful because when I first

544
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 6: started freestyling, it's like it took a long time to

545
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 6: be able to say something meaningful while I was improvising

546
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 6: as a rapper at first, it's really just about creating

547
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 6: this rhythmic feel, and like in many ways, it's like

548
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 6: just don't stop, don't stop moving your mouth. You know,

549
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 6: if you can create some kind of rhythm, you'll find

550
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: it eventually. And so I feel like jazz drumming and

551
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 6: just drumming in general gave me that kind of just

552
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 6: that rhythmic underpinning.

553
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: You're just in the flow and you're just you're like

554
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: swimming in the current and you don't.

555
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 6: Stop exactly right. Yeah, it's like you don't know what

556
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: you're going to say next, but if you just keep flowing.

557
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: You'll find it. If you don't, then you're not going

558
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: to say anything exactly might as well just keep going

559
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: at school. Yeah, And did you go to school for music?

560
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: I did?

561
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I went to so. I grew up in Portland, Oregon,

562
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 6: and then I moved down to Los Angeles in two

563
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 6: thousand and eight and I studied. I was part of

564
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 6: the Jazz Studies program at USC.

565
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

566
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

567
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: For how did you finish?

568
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 6: I did? Yeah? I did my undergrad there. Wow, twenty twelve.

569
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: Okay, so you really did it?

570
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 6: I really did it? Yeah?

571
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 7: Cool?

572
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, it was really cool.

573
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: And were you freestyling all the while in LA.

574
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 8: Like that was?

575
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and gigging and trying to figure it out? Yeah,

576
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 6: one hundred percent. I was kind of saying yes to everything,

577
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 6: you know, and uh, but it's funny because as much

578
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 6: as I was just like really focused on drums, and

579
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: I was practicing for you know, several hours every day,

580
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 6: and I was doing all my ensembles and all the

581
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 6: other course work and stuff that I was doing there

582
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 6: as a drummer. It's like I was doing just as

583
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 6: much work as a freestyler, but just in the dorm

584
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 6: room with my friends. Yeah, like just hours, like literally

585
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 6: like nightly. Wow. Because once they figured it out, it

586
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 6: was like I lived in a suite, so it was

587
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 6: like there were three separate rooms, two to a room.

588
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 6: So there were six of us in there, and we

589
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 6: all kind of like became friends freshman year while we

590
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: were living there at USC and none of them were musicians.

591
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 6: I was the only musician there.

592
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh, they weren't in the music they weren't in the.

593
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: Music program, but one of them played guitar and they

594
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 6: were somewhat musical. But I was the only person studying

595
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 6: music and uh. But then as soon as they learned

596
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 6: that I could freestyle, it was just like every night

597
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 6: they'd be like, do do this beat? Like wrap over

598
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 6: this beat, Okay, let's go, and it just so yeah,

599
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 6: it was awesome. And then they would challenge me and

600
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 6: be like do one about this, do one about that,

601
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 6: or like hold things up, you know, And I was

602
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 6: just like, I love this.

603
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: This have been the main attraction at parties.

604
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 6: Yes, for real. It was so dope and actually it

605
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 6: was really cool. I so I went to, uh there's

606
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 6: this really incredible neo soul group called Moonchild, which I've

607
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 6: heard them. They're great, and uh so I went to

608
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: school with them, Amber Navrin and and Just Mattsen and

609
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 6: Max Brick that's a Moonchild and we all went to

610
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 6: school together. And so I had a band with some

611
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 6: of them. I think all of them were part of

612
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 6: it at one time or another, as well as others.

613
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 6: And so it was like a it was my friends

614
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 6: from the jazz program, and it was like a full band.

615
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 6: Like it's like we were really inspired by the roots,

616
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 6: you know, and trying to do something similar and so

617
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 6: and I was the front person as a rapper, but

618
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 6: I would just improvise all of my parts. So we

619
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 6: would have like a chorus that was pre written and

620
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: the music would be pre composed. But then when it

621
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 6: was time for the verses, it would just be like

622
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 6: an open section, like if I was doing horn solo

623
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: or something, but instead I was freestyling, and we became

624
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 6: this really popular party band because it was so like

625
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 6: interesting and yeah, I was like rapping about what was

626
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 6: happening at the party. I'd be like this guys way

627
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 6: too drunk, you know whatever, and it was so dope

628
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 6: and but and it was a lot of fun. And

629
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 6: at one point we were doing like three or four

630
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 6: parties a week, and we were just like this super

631
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 6: in demand usc A band.

632
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: That's so fun.

633
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 6: It was awesome.

634
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Sounds like you've had a good time.

635
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 6: I've definitely had a good time.

636
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

637
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I learned a ton doing that too, just

638
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 6: because you know previously, like with my group stayed of

639
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: mind that I was mentioning before, it was always we

640
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 6: freestyled because we loved it. But for our records, we

641
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: wrote all the parts, you know, and when we performed live,

642
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: it was mostly like written material, and then the freestyle

643
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 6: was like the spice on top, like we might do

644
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 6: like a five minute freestyle interlude at some point for fun.

645
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: But then in college it kind of like flipped where

646
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 6: it was like, oh, no, I'm really just going to

647
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 6: go out there, no plan.

648
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you probably got better and better at it.

649
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: Right totally, And so Yeah, it was like full immersion

650
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 6: and I was just doing it as often as possible.

651
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: That's the best practice. Oh yeah, did you go to

652
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: do you now go to sleep? Like are you able

653
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: to turn off?

654
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 9: Yeah?

655
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Are you happy?

656
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 6: No, it's a good question.

657
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

658
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 6: No, I've wondered myself. Back in college, I didn't sleep

659
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: that much, and I don't know how I did that.

660
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 8: Now.

661
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 6: I love sleep, yeah, and I try to get it

662
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 6: when I can. But but yeah, it is a funny thing.

663
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: Like when I wake up in the morning, it's a

664
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 6: clear slate, you know, and there's no rhymes happening. But

665
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: once I start it kind of like it's like flip

666
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: it a switch, and then you can't turn it off

667
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 6: till you go to sleep, because it does just kind

668
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: of churn in the background. And like, especially when we

669
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: go out and do you know, I do videos where

670
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: I'm like out in the street and I'm interacting with

671
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 6: strangers and I'll ask them to like throw me words

672
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 6: and suggestions kind of like what we did at the

673
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: beginning of the podcast, and I'll turn it into a freestyle.

674
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 6: And after we do like a few hours of that

675
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 6: out in the world, it's like it's hard for me

676
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 6: to turn it off.

677
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: You're just like vibrating.

678
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

679
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: Everyone, Look, I'm like that looks like a good group.

680
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 6: They're like, we turn the cameras off. It's done, you know,

681
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 6: Like okay, like like a restaurant sign, what rhymes with that?

682
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: Runs with that?

683
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: Like here's what I would say, you know, Oh I

684
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 6: should incorporate that.

685
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, when you're watching TV? Do you like

686
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: a TV show? Could do you just do it?

687
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 6: Sometimes? Washing the dishes great time to freestyle in the shower,

688
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 6: but then it becomes very repetitive because you're always doing

689
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 6: the same thing. So it's like how many times can

690
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 6: you run?

691
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: True?

692
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 6: You know I've already done that. You've come up with

693
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 6: like crazier and crazier options to rhyme about in the shower.

694
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 6: You're like the route this is really grout work.

695
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Like yeah, So you do you write more prepared stuff

696
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: ever lately? Like or are you pretty just focused on

697
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: the freestyling.

698
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 6: I'm very focused on the freestyling. Uh, But I I

699
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: do also write, and I've been sort of experimenting and

700
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: trying to find out what kind of like process feels

701
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: good for me, because to be honest, it's it's challenging

702
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 6: for me, you know, to figure out how to be

703
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 6: effective as a songwriter and how to be effective like

704
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: in a more traditional studio environment. I'm such an improviser, yeah,

705
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: and that's always what's drawn me to music, like from

706
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 6: the very beginning, jazz. That's why I love jazz. And

707
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 6: I mean I remember, like I have all these early

708
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 6: memories of music, and they all involve improvisation. Like I

709
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: remember one time. I have to ask my parents because

710
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 6: I have no idea where we were, but we were

711
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 6: at some kind of like almost in my memory, it's

712
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 6: like a trade show type environment, but I don't know

713
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 6: if that's accurate. But there was like a musician there

714
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 6: with the piano and he saw me and I was

715
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 6: like enamored with what he was doing. He was like, oh,

716
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 6: come sit up here, and he was like, you can

717
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 6: play play any of the black notes, you know, and

718
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 6: he played something in like I guess like flat minors

719
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: already played something where else and he can't. Yeah's something

720
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: where that scale would work. And I was just a

721
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 6: little kid, but I was like okay, and he was

722
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: playing a chord progression beneath me, and I just remember

723
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 6: I started playing and I was like, I get I

724
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 6: get it.

725
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: It wired. Maybe it wired your whole path and changed

726
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: your whole I.

727
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 6: Feel like it did because I definitely was blissing out

728
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 6: while I was doing it. This is amazing somehow, I'm

729
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 6: like a good musician. You get this, mom, Yeah, exactly.

730
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 6: And I'm sure if luckily they didn't record it, because

731
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: it probably wasn't very good, but my memory huge. In

732
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 6: my memory, it was huge and and so but anyway,

733
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 6: bringing it back to your question, I'm so I'm such

734
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 6: an improviser through and through, and so sometimes it's hard

735
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 6: for me to funnel that energy into something that needs

736
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 6: to be kind of honed and refined.

737
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, you have a superpower and it doesn't. And it's

738
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: sometimes when you have something like like it's crazy, you've

739
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: worked on it. It's a gift. But you've also like

740
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: you've put in all the work. Yeah, and I mean

741
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: it's it's incredible. Oh thanks, So pivoting into something that

742
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: is maybe more the norm, Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe

743
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: maybe it would be fun, but maybe it doesn't have

744
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: to happen exactly.

745
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 6: And that's you know, it's it's funny you say that

746
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 6: because that has been sort of the I guess like

747
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 6: the challenge for me since I started like really having

748
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: success at this as an improviser and becoming known. It

749
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 6: was like immediately because I kind of stumbled into it.

750
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 6: You know, my friend way back in December twenty sixteen,

751
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 6: my friend Jacob Mann, who's also a great jazz pianist

752
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 6: and composer, and he had a big band at the time,

753
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 6: and anyway, he did a big band record and he

754
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 6: wanted to promote it, and so he like chopped the

755
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 6: beat out of his He sampled his big band recording

756
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 6: and made a hip hop beat and had me freestyle

757
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 6: over it and filmed it on his phone and posted

758
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 6: it on YouTube. That was in twenty sixteen, and that

759
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 6: was the first exposure to anybody outside of like my

760
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 6: local community really that ever heard me freestyle. And the

761
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 6: video like got one hundred thousand views or something like that,

762
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: and I was like, this is amazing, this is amazing.

763
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 6: We spend twenty minutes doing this. I didn't even think

764
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 6: anything of it. What would happen if I really dove

765
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 6: in And so that was the catalyst for me to

766
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 6: start making my own videos and really invest everything I

767
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: have into growing this. But as soon as I started

768
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: kind of having that success with the videos. It was

769
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 6: like immediate where it was like okay, cool, what are

770
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 6: you going to do? Like how are you going to pivot?

771
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

772
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 6: That was sort of the conversation around it.

773
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Other people, Yeah, like in the comments.

774
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: Or even like when I start, I would, you know,

775
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 6: because the videos kind of popped off and I would

776
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 6: get to connect with people in the music industry and

777
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 6: managers and people at record labels and producers and stuff

778
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 6: like that and just have meetings and conversations. But I

779
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 6: always felt kind of uncomfortable because it was all about like, Okay, well,

780
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 6: how do we take this and make it next? Yeah,

781
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 6: and how do we make it fit in with what

782
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 6: is sort of a more traditional path kind of like

783
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 6: how do you you need an album? You know, and

784
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: you need a big single right right?

785
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I don't need that.

786
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 6: Yeah maybe, But at the time, you know, I was younger,

787
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 6: and I was so kind of like I didn't know anything,

788
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 6: and I still don't. I only know enough to know

789
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 6: I don't know anything. But but back then especially I

790
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: was kind of impressionable, and I was like, oh, I

791
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 6: think I probably do need this, yeah, probably, right?

792
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: They seem to know, like, well, it also seems like

793
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: a milestone that you want to hit at some point probably, yeah.

794
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, And part of me does want to, you know,

795
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 6: make like a great album, you know, and and but

796
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 6: but I do wrestle with that in my head. It's

797
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 6: like at the same like you say, it's like I

798
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 6: have this thing that's special that clearly has a lot

799
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 6: of energy around and then people enjoy it and I

800
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: enjoy it, and I've invested a lot of time in it,

801
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 6: and maybe that's enough.

802
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could make a great album and improvise,

803
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I think. So you just got to get some cool

804
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: musicians that you love to play with and just bounce

805
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: it around and recording.

806
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

807
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Like you don't know, but I it, I get it.

808
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: It's like if you want to be a part of

809
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 6: my album, heck yeah.

810
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like also, times are different

811
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: and you don't need that anymore. Yeah, it's crazy.

812
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 6: It's a different landscape.

813
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: It's really different, and you've had to navigate it. When

814
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: did you start putting videos out shortly after that, like

815
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen.

816
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty seventeen, Yeah, at the beginning. It's funny that

817
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 6: video happened with my friend Jacob, and then I was

818
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: just blown away because I wasn't a social media person

819
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 6: like at all, and I didn't even have I didn't

820
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 6: know what having a YouTube channel or subscriber was. It

821
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: just wasn't in my worldview at all. So I just

822
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 6: remember I called him and I was like, can we

823
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 6: get lunch? And we got together and I was like,

824
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 6: what do you think I should do?

825
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 8: Yeah?

826
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, because he was already doing the YouTube thing and

827
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 6: he's very funny as well, so he had lots of

828
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 6: like kind of like comedic videos on his channel that

829
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 6: had done well in addition to his music stuff, and

830
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 6: so he was like, man, just make a YouTube channel

831
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 6: and start making videos that seem cool to you of

832
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 6: you freestyling, and you'll be fine.

833
00:38:59,200 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 8: You know.

834
00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

835
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I think that people overthink it, yeah a lot, and

836
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: they think it has to be like the ultimate video.

837
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: But I think what people connect to is the human

838
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: quality of it. Yes, and you already have. What you're

839
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: doing is amazing, so it's thanks, you know what I mean.

840
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: I feel like it's better.

841
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 6: That way totally. Yeah. I mean, and if you know

842
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 6: the overthinking thing, you just end up never making anything

843
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 6: in my experience. Yes, you know, it's like I just

844
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 6: for years and that was the whole thing. Is like

845
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 6: I'd been freestyling and rapping and loving it and for

846
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 6: so long before. And I had my group in high

847
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 6: school and that was great. But that was that felt

848
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: easy because I had my best friends with me. Yes,

849
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 6: that's different, you know, it's different, and we were just

850
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 6: hanging out. It was what we wanted to do anyway,

851
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: you know, It's like we don't want to do this homework.

852
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 6: We want to go do this wrap thing, you know.

853
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 6: But then once I was kind of like out on

854
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 6: my own and I didn't have my crew anymore, and

855
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: like my homies who I came up with doing it,

856
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 6: I felt like, you know, nervous. I didn't know how

857
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: to step into being like a solo artist and and

858
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 6: how to like kind of pay my own way, and

859
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 6: so I would just overthink myself out of ever doing anything,

860
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: you know. And it took until my friend Jake, it

861
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 6: was like, here, come do this thing favor to him.

862
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

863
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't even do it for me, I just

864
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 6: did it to I was like, Oh, if this is

865
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 6: going to help you out, sure, And that kind of

866
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 6: opened my eyes to it, but yeah, totally. I mean,

867
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 6: and that's one of the big things for me too,

868
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 6: is like it's why sort of like revising things and

869
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 6: like really like refining ideas can be challenging because sometimes

870
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 6: I'm just like, I'm never going to finish it. You know,

871
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 6: it's never going to be right.

872
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to focus on things. Yes, for a long

873
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: period of time.

874
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

875
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: For me, I've realized more and more I love playing music,

876
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: but if I have to write something out or write

877
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: a chart for something, or learn something, that's hard. Yeah,

878
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to focus on it. So, you know,

879
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: even doing this podcast, like sometimes I get in my

880
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: head about learning songs if that somebody has picked or

881
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: that I've picked for myself, and I put it off

882
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: and I put it off, and then I get nervous

883
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: about being prepared. But then when I get in the

884
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: room and you're playing music with someone, it feels like, oh, yeah,

885
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: I know how to do this, yes, you know, and

886
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: it's easier when you're just doing it. Yes, So getting

887
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: psyched up for something musical or creative, I feel like

888
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: is just sort of anti productive.

889
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 6: I agree so much. It resonates so much. It's crazy.

890
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 6: And I've been thinking about this a lot lately too,

891
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 6: because I do the same thing, I get really worked

892
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 6: up in my head and I start getting nervous, and

893
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 6: I suddenly it's like, wait, I don't even know how

894
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 6: to do this city. Why have they chosen me? Like,

895
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 6: why have they chosen me for this opportunity? Like I

896
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: don't even know what this is. Yeah, and I think

897
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: it's like the whole talking about it.

898
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Thing, you know, Yeah, don't talk about it, just be

899
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: about it.

900
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

901
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: It's like I don't read, you know, people talking about

902
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: music that much because I'd rather just listen to it.

903
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was this thing and I don't know if

904
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 6: it was legit. I thought it was legit at the time,

905
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 6: but it was like a list of kind of likes

906
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 6: to be a part of the Londious Monk's band. Did

907
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 6: you ever see this?

908
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 8: No?

909
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: No, I did see it, but yeah, yeah, tell it

910
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: so I had.

911
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 6: Like various like you know, his requirements basically, and it

912
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 6: was like I think it was written in all caps.

913
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: I haven't looked at it in a long time. Hopefully

914
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 6: it's real because it was great. But it was one

915
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 6: of them was like I think it said talking about

916
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 6: music is like dancing about architecture. Yes, like what's the

917
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 6: point kind of.

918
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 8: You know, like.

919
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: We're talking about it?

920
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.

921
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: This is different.

922
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 6: This is totally different. I feel comfortable here. I'm sitting

923
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 6: at the drums. I feel good. No, and it as

924
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 6: a place, and I love talking with other musicians and

925
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 6: talking with other creatives.

926
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different if it's.

927
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: Talking through like what I'm gonna do? It's okay, so

928
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 6: like what side of the stage do you want to

929
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: stand on? Or like so how are you gonna intro this?

930
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 6: And like what's the transition from this song to this song?

931
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 6: It's like, man, I don't even know if I know

932
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: how to make music anymore.

933
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 8: Yeah.

934
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: And I asked Brian Blade once we were doing a

935
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: song that was like five and then seven, and I said,

936
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: how do you count that? He goes, oh, I don't count.

937
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, thank you, Brian Blade, thanks awesome

938
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: giving me permission to not count.

939
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 6: That's awesome. Yeah, that's so, that's so great. Yeah, yeah,

940
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 6: one percent. And I always say to people like that's

941
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 6: why I hated. Once the videos started popping off, then

942
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 6: I would get to go in studios with producers, and

943
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 6: I was grateful for the opportunities and everybody was trying

944
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 6: to help me and that's awesome. But it would just

945
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 6: be like, okay, cool, Like do you like this beat?

946
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, I like it. Then it's just playing

947
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 6: on loop and I'm sitting there like with my notesap

948
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 6: on my phone with like a blinking cursor on a

949
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 6: couch while they like are tweaking the beat a little

950
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 6: bit or doing other things, and I just remember just

951
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 6: sitting there like in a cloud of anxiety and just

952
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 6: being like I don't know how to wrap. And then

953
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 6: as soon and I would just remember being like every

954
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 6: time I get on a mic and start wrapping, then

955
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 6: I know how to wrap, but until then I have

956
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 6: no idea how to do it.

957
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I mean? It's muscle memory

958
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: because you put in all the work, but like you

959
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: can't think.

960
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: About it one hundred percent. And I follow and I

961
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 6: bounce off the cues, you know. It's like when the

962
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 6: beat drops and then I start going uh yeah, then

963
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 6: I'm like okay, yeah, now I know what I'm doing.

964
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 6: And the bodies a big part of it.

965
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: You're a mirror to what's happening. And just like you're

966
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: just dancing at that point.

967
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: But I've never been somebody that could just like look

968
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 6: at a blank page and dream up something incredible and

969
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 6: write it down. And but I have such admiration for

970
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 6: people who can do that.

971
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: And yeah, but you do do that, you just don't

972
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: put it on a page.

973
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: Yes, that's true.

974
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

975
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 6: That's the thing.

976
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, it really is.

977
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 6: Thank you. That's awesome and that you know it.

978
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: Thank you.

979
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: That makes you feel good. Yeah, for sure, that makes

980
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 6: you feel good.

981
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the way you're thinking about it. Yes,

982
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: and everybody thinks about it differently.

983
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 6: Yeah. Wow, can we do something like that?

984
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: Oh damn, that's nice.

985
00:44:46,080 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, cranium, y'all know what it is? Playing along there

986
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 7: we go.

987
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's not a human. Mac Get is alien.

988
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: Composed verses directly.

989
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 7: From my craney.

990
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 6: Um, y'all know, I do it right from the mine

991
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 6: when I'm flipping right off at the metal. You know

992
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: why I cite him with rhymes.

993
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 7: Come on, Claren, I'm gonna.

994
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 6: Last forever versus off the metal. Best believe the sound clever? Yeah,

995
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: flowing the vine, so whoping up your heart to this

996
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 6: macking Dorver Jones going hard for this listen helix. Yeah,

997
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: we gonna make you fail this. He was a getting

998
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 6: my cheese ringing in my double heelis spending back of

999
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: a minute. What did he just say? I mean to

1000
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 6: say this rhythm moving through my DNA. Yeah, on the mic,

1001
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 6: and then I own the zone. I got hip hop

1002
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 6: beats and my chrome and zones. Hay track to getting

1003
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: and y'all know why begin to rhyme me in the

1004
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: crowd the double helix?

1005
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: How we in the.

1006
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: Twurm loot boot loot boot bot.

1007
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 6: M o ot. Yeah, I'm gonna rocket on the true joint,

1008
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 6: they said, Harry MACI is wag. That's a mule point.

1009
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 6: I'm gonna break it death for everyone that's watching before

1010
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 6: you set up to me. I'm better use cau shit

1011
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 6: yeah for me, and truly ain't nothing to change the pronunciation.

1012
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: Then I hit the mule button, bring it back again.

1013
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: Then we turning the death. Didn't he mike that grip?

1014
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 6: Don't know I'm burning the doe. I'm can't at the

1015
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 6: top of this.

1016
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: No mule points after when a rhyme like.

1017
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: This, whack it gets injecte burn this, Yeah.

1018
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: I burn this, I keep the eye this and burn all.

1019
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: Competition quickly getting sent away freestyle novelist to call me

1020
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: earnest timing way h Man got the medal win to

1021
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: make the point, combined with Norah Jones cooking up these

1022
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 6: crazy joints, keep the earnest man and keep it up there.

1023
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 6: If my name is submitted, I never signed a stadium depending.

1024
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 6: Y'all know what's up.

1025
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep it spending with the boat care.

1026
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 6: Fling right up with the men and winnu.

1027
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 7: But we from it.

1028
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: We're looking the goat man.

1029
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: I come the type of dish I ride to the

1030
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 6: pocket list. We're gonna turn it off the top.

1031
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: Of the brain.

1032
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 6: I feel like the main will stop this.

1033
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 5: Who come on serotoning?

1034
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 6: We really zone it. This style is the one.

1035
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: Then I'm owning who's enough to double mean? Then you're serving.

1036
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 6: Tone me when I found I got the upmost inventive flos, got.

1037
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: Your brains making out the happy chemic.

1038
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 6: Goals, stoning posting through your bands. Now with the mental

1039
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 6: change it, I'll never be bringing the same style. I

1040
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 6: know we take beyond h mac are going deep down't

1041
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 6: know when the kind of lyrish I the spending cheap,

1042
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 6: I be that rhyme and free separatone in this dad

1043
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 6: he posted and win his rhyming. Y'all know, we goes

1044
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 6: and flows a deeper. We gonna take it them, make

1045
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 6: them more aware.

1046
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: I wait off the mantle, made no need to prepare.

1047
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 6: Getting cracking like a step when they spitting observed yo bird,

1048
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 6: and we went at least one more word clever clever

1049
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 6: writ they heard off the top of serve. You best

1050
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 6: believe it.

1051
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: Spending the burden, my.

1052
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 6: F it might disturb y'allll be clever, but with the

1053
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: bird playing over spent and lyrics in the your mostnserd.

1054
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: Way, can't blighty quite don't like me?

1055
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 6: They might flow, but y'all know they not don't like me.

1056
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 6: Said this is back in Northy Jones and we slaying

1057
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 6: the song.

1058
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: Ain't not playing. I'm just playing the laws and I

1059
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: was playing in the lawn.

1060
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it's like us so fun.

1061
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: You do the fast one, Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little

1062
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 6: double time, you know, Yeah.

1063
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: That's great. How many times a week do you do

1064
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: these videos? At this point? Do you take breaks?

1065
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 6: Or yeah?

1066
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Do you bank them?

1067
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 6: Do you like kind of we usually kind of ebbs

1068
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 6: and flows, so we'll kind of try to batch. It

1069
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 6: usually ends up working like that where we batch a

1070
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 6: lot of videos together when the whole team is together.

1071
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 6: You know, my team is kind of is semi remote.

1072
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: We live in different places and so, but we'll we're

1073
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 6: all together, like when I'm on tour, and so that's

1074
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 6: a good opportunity to try to film videos when we're

1075
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: in different cities and stuff go out in the streets. Yeah,

1076
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 6: it's the only thing with that is I have to

1077
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 6: just be mindful of like my voice and the whole

1078
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 6: you're going to play at night. Yeah, the vocal care element,

1079
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: which is I would I probably need to ask you

1080
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 6: about that because that's been my biggest thing, Like my

1081
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: achilles heel.

1082
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: Is my really Yeah, you lose it a lot.

1083
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: I used to lose it a lot, and then I

1084
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 6: got really scared about that because it's like a do

1085
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 6: you ever lose your voice rarely?

1086
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, but I well, I sing louder now,

1087
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: but I mean I sing kind of quiet. Yeah, but

1088
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I used to lose it if I

1089
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: was going to a bar and talking and told a lot. Yeah,

1090
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: hanging out, Yes, in a loud restaurant at a bar,

1091
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: that's what really does it totally.

1092
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 6: I can't believe I used to do that as often

1093
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: as I know.

1094
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't even sound fun.

1095
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: Now I hate it.

1096
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 6: I used to love it. I was like I remember

1097
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 6: being in my twenties and being like we would go

1098
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 6: out all the time, and I just remember being like, Wow,

1099
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: it's gonna suck when I like turn thirty and I

1100
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 6: still really want to do this, but I can't because

1101
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 6: it's like kind of weird because people kind of judge

1102
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 6: me if I go out this way. Then it's like

1103
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 6: almost like as soon as I turned thirty, I was like, oh, yeah,

1104
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 6: I don't want to do that. Yeah, And now when

1105
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 6: I'm in those environments, I'm like, why do we do this?

1106
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 5: Like why?

1107
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 6: I guess if you're going to dance, it makes sense, yeah,

1108
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 6: But for anything else, I'm like why we're like here

1109
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 6: to catch up, like I have you're my friend, I

1110
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 6: haven't seen you in a month. You have to scream

1111
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: it's like how are you? Yeah?

1112
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: Or like a first date then a bar, like I

1113
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: don't know how youep do that.

1114
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 6: It's such an uphill battle, just so loud. Yeah, like

1115
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 6: let's go to a cafe or something conducive to Yeah,

1116
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 6: park is great, but yeah, no, I used to Uh.

1117
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 6: I guess it started back in high school, even like

1118
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 6: back when I was with my group, say to mine.

1119
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 6: Back then, at some point I started losing my voice.

1120
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 6: And I'm not trained as a vocalist at all, you know,

1121
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 6: I'm a rapper, so I just it's completely self taught

1122
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 6: and never thought about that. And then I really started

1123
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 6: to lose my voice a lot, and that started to

1124
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 6: freak me out because it's just a mortifying feeling to

1125
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 6: be up on stage. And it's like, you know, it's

1126
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 6: obviously important to play the drums with good technique where

1127
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 6: you're going to be healthy and you're not going to

1128
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 6: like have back pain and shoulder pain and things like that.

1129
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 6: But it's not like if you drop the ball on

1130
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 6: your healthy technique, the drums just vanish. Yeah, and you're like, well,

1131
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 6: now you guys, I don't have an instrument anymore.

1132
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: Gone.

1133
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1134
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 6: But with the voice, it's that and and the other

1135
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 6: thing is I really use my energy to like sell it,

1136
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

1137
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to put it behind it, right, You

1138
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: can't just kind of whisper it.

1139
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 6: No, I wish that I could. Sometimes I'm jealous. I'm like, man,

1140
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 6: I feel like if I was like Snoop Dogg or

1141
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 6: something like that, she could just go up there with

1142
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 6: all the swag in the world and do his songs

1143
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 6: and it sounds almost exactly like the record and it's amazing,

1144
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: you know. But I Harry Mac doesn't do that. I

1145
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 6: go out there and I'm like, you're gonna like, first

1146
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 6: of all, nobody knows the words to any of this,

1147
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 6: because I'm making it up right now, and I'm gonna

1148
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 6: make you feel this. Yeah, And if I feel like

1149
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 6: it's not, if I feel like we're not all there,

1150
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 6: I'm going to rise to the occasion and save the day,

1151
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: you know. And I use like kind of like muscle

1152
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 6: to do that is how you know. I use my voice. Yeah,

1153
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 6: But then you know, sometimes I overdo it and then

1154
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 6: once it goes away, it's very difficult to get it back,

1155
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 6: and then I feel very like, you know, it's it's

1156
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 6: kind of scary to be on stage and be like, well,

1157
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 6: what do we do now? So then I got really

1158
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: serious about, you know, warming up and learning about it

1159
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 6: now I do, and how to breathe and also trying

1160
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 6: to pay myself and like, Okay, you don't have to

1161
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 6: you don't have to go. You don't have to save

1162
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 6: the day every time. You know, you can pick your moments.

1163
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's uh So when we're on tour, you know,

1164
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 6: it's important that like we'll do the video shoots and

1165
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 6: stuff in the streets, Like if we have a stretch

1166
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 6: of days off, maybe you know, we try to build

1167
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 6: that into the tour route, not.

1168
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: Not just doing them every show day. Okay, that's smart.

1169
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I try not to do like back

1170
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 6: to back shows even.

1171
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Really yeah for me, because I just it's a lot

1172
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: of energy.

1173
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 6: It's a lot. Yeah, and mentally too, because the whole

1174
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 6: my show is almost entirely improvised.

1175
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, mentally it must be totally a drain.

1176
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just like, wow, that was everything I have,

1177
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 6: Like I need a day.

1178
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: So if you do like an hour and a half

1179
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: two hour show, we do an hour and a half

1180
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: hour and a half show, that's different from doing the

1181
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: videos because it's just constant and there's no break, right, Okay.

1182
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 6: That's a lot, and I'm trying to like work the

1183
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: stage and you know, there's a more more physical element

1184
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 6: versus just me standing in front of four people on

1185
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 6: a street far or whatever.

1186
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot.

1187
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, it's awesome, and I really

1188
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 6: enjoy it. And I'm also really proud of the show

1189
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 6: because yeah, when I was like struggling with my voice

1190
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 6: and trying to figure out how to do that, I

1191
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 6: was like, I don't know if.

1192
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: I can do an hour yeah, because he hadn't done it.

1193
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I had to like really build up to it,

1194
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 6: and so now I'm able to do it, and that

1195
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 6: makes me feel really really proud because I just yeah,

1196
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 6: I was scary for a minute. I was like, man,

1197
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 6: maybe I'm going to be the guy who could have

1198
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 6: been such a great freestyle rapper and performer if only

1199
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 6: his voice could hold out. Oh yeah yeah, as I

1200
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 6: reached for my throat coat.

1201
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what kind of places are you playing?

1202
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 6: We are playing like twelve hundred to seventeen hundred cap rooms.

1203
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, that's like a good size. That's like

1204
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: the best size.

1205
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 6: I Yeah, So I don't know, because like the ambition

1206
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 6: in me is like, let's go, let's go big as

1207
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 6: you can.

1208
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 3: Yea.

1209
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: If I'm I just mean for like to keep the intimacy.

1210
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: It's so nice.

1211
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 6: I agree, and and like the other side of me,

1212
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 6: you know, like the ultra ambitious side is like the bigger,

1213
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 6: the better, and let's keep growing if we can. And

1214
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 6: then the other side of me is like, this feels

1215
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 6: kind of perfect, and especially for what I do, you know,

1216
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 6: because it's all improvised. One of the biggest challenges was

1217
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 6: like figuring out how to even scale it up to

1218
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 6: even that size, or even how do I do this

1219
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 6: on a stage in front of five hundred people instead

1220
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 6: of on a corner where everybody can see everything that

1221
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 6: I'm referencing.

1222
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: That's true, Yeah, and so.

1223
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 6: We basically like utilize technology and the screen behind me

1224
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 6: to so there's like a QR code and people are

1225
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 6: able to like submit words and topics. Okay, so seeing

1226
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 6: them on screen for.

1227
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: The first time a lot easier for people.

1228
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then we have camera feeds and stuff that

1229
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 6: can project to the screen. So if I'm like in

1230
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 6: the crowd rapping about what I can see in front

1231
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 6: of me, the whole room can see it and stuff

1232
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 6: like that. But but yeah, so I don't know how

1233
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 6: big it scales. I have done like some festival performances

1234
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 6: in front of much bigger crowds, and it was really

1235
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 6: exciting and fun and it works. So I think it works.

1236
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 6: But I agree with you. I do love the like

1237
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 6: the fifteen hundred.

1238
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of sounds nice for what you're doing.

1239
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 6: It's really nice. It's really nice, and I feel like

1240
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 6: I can feel everybody. And sometimes when it gets with you, yes.

1241
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sometimes when it's bigger, the people in back might

1242
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: be with you part of it, but they're kind of

1243
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: in and out and they're having fun and they're into it,

1244
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: but it's not in the same way as like having

1245
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: everybody really engaged.

1246
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just becomes kind of like crowd. It's like

1247
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 6: there's me on stage, and then there's crowd.

1248
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: And then then at the back they're like, oh, yeah,

1249
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: he's on stage, and then there's you and me and

1250
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: there's the beer stand and.

1251
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 6: You know exactly exactly yeah, yeah. But the smaller room,

1252
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, everybody here is contributing, is how it feels.

1253
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we play some more music, let's do it.

1254
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: So I want to give you more words.

1255
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 6: I feel like, yeah, let's do that.

1256
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: How does this? How should we do it? Oh my god?

1257
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know this word, you guys, Oh, what

1258
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: is it? Fiduciary?

1259
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 6: Fiduciary?

1260
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: Do you know this one?

1261
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a financial term.

1262
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: I know it is that that I knew that, but

1263
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

1264
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 6: I think like a fiduciary responsibility is like if the

1265
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 6: banks go under, uh, you're still covered up to two

1266
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars.

1267
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm sorry. Did you study finance or am I.

1268
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 7: Just really dumb?

1269
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 6: No, You're not dumb at all. It's a weird word.

1270
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 6: I think that's what it means.

1271
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: Have you had to learn? How do you just go

1272
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: through the dictionary all the time? Like is that a

1273
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: part of your practice? Like do you just know a

1274
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: lot of words that other people don't.

1275
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 6: The thing is, I get a lot of credit for

1276
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 6: having a big vocabulary, and I don't think it's accurate.

1277
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 6: I don't think it's true. I just I'm really I

1278
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 6: feel I say this humbly, like I have a good

1279
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 6: mastery of the words I do know. You know, it's

1280
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 6: kind of like some you know, how like some jazz

1281
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 6: players like from back in the day, like they didn't

1282
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 6: have a lot of chops, but they had full mastery

1283
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 6: of their chops and that's why it was so great.

1284
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did their thing.

1285
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did their thing, and they had a voice

1286
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 6: and and it just and it's beautiful. That's how I

1287
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 6: feel about my freestyle. People be like, you know, every

1288
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 6: word in the dictionary sounds like it like if you

1289
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 6: watch my videos, though, I happen to know fiduciary, so

1290
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 6: it looks like I know, I like this, I got

1291
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 6: lucky and that one before. I don't think I've gotten

1292
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 6: that in a freestyle, which is amazing. It's rare that

1293
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 6: we get an unfreestyled word.

1294
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, I'm going to put some here.

1295
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: Should I call them out while we're doing it? Or

1296
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: do you want them before?

1297
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 6: I guess this time, call them out while we do it.

1298
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: If I put them in you can't see these right? Yes, okay,

1299
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: If I put them in front of me, I can

1300
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: do it. I cannot think.

1301
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 6: Yeah the spot, that's perfect. Plus I was going to

1302
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 6: suggest you leave them out of the hat so we

1303
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 6: don't forget what they are.

1304
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, And do you want to steal

1305
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: play drums or would you rather do the loop? I'm

1306
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: totally happy how you are, but whatever you want is

1307
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: it is it harder for you while you're playing, or

1308
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: it is.

1309
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 6: Harder to freestyle while I play?

1310
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's like it's so fun.

1311
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the thing is it's in development, Like I'm

1312
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 6: really working on this right now, you are. So I

1313
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: was excited to do it here, even though I feel

1314
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 6: like it's like a little early. I mean, I actually

1315
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 6: brought the drums out on tour last time, and for

1316
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 6: a segment of the show, like in the middle, I

1317
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 6: would I did a drum solo and then I would

1318
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 6: accompany myself on drums while rapping. Okay, but but it's

1319
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 6: like I feel like it's still in the early stages

1320
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 6: of development. But I also feel like it's really strange

1321
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 6: for me to sit at the drums and not play

1322
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 6: and like play a drum track off my phone. I guess,

1323
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 6: so on this podcast, I'm accompanying myself.

1324
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel Jones.

1325
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 6: We'll play.

1326
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push you.

1327
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 6: I'm pushing. Yeah, we're pushing ourselves.

1328
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: You push me, I push. Yeah, that's how we do this,

1329
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: all right. I've got some fun words here. Oh yeah, okay,

1330
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: all right, you can't see these.

1331
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 6: I can't. I can kind of see those ones upside down.

1332
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 6: But I'm not going to read them because I'm okay,

1333
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 6: because you're pro I'm the real deal, you are, okay?

1334
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I've got a lot of words here.

1335
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: We don't have to do them all. I just want

1336
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: to have them out in case.

1337
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 6: All right, Okay, this is gonna be fun.

1338
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: All right, it's funny. She made all these flash cars

1339
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: and I made her put them on a sheet of

1340
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: paper because I was like, I'm not going to be

1341
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: picking flash cars out of a hat while I'm playing.

1342
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 1: And she put them on a sheet of paper.

1343
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 8: But what did I do?

1344
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: I just pulled out all the flash cars?

1345
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1346
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 6: At playing?

1347
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 7: Is I gave you?

1348
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 6: That's too much? Right, that's like a circus act, I feel,

1349
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 6: and somebody will be juggling, like burning exactly right. All right,

1350
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 6: let's do it. Who should I start it off?

1351
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1352
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: Because I don't know what temple you want to do?

1353
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 6: True?

1354
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: True, Well you can do anything you want. I can

1355
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: even if you go ask whatever.

1356
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 6: All right, let's see.

1357
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: Fiduciary.

1358
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, there ain't really nothing they can do to Harry.

1359
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 6: I'm getting paid, y'all. No fiduciary, y'all know I'm stretching

1360
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 6: with figility. I'm the bank with fiduciary responsibility. Y'all know,

1361
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 6: I'm making all these rappers run away. If the banks

1362
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 6: go over, I still get my two hundred kne Yeah,

1363
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 6: y'all know.

1364
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: I'm ready to ride. Get the paper.

1365
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 6: Then we're gonna invest it in stocks.

1366
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 5: Sandbox.

1367
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, y'all know they came to see the man rock.

1368
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 6: I'm about to kid at the damn prize. Wants to

1369
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 6: start rhyming, y'all. I can't stop when I'm with order.

1370
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 6: I'm like a kid up in the sandbox on the rail.

1371
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 6: We just out here having fun. I'm just playing the

1372
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 6: long and getting the job dying.

1373
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm just laying the.

1374
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 6: Song, and you know I'm winning every damn bad or.

1375
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 6: I'm him in the side of my saying past. Oh look, Yeah,

1376
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 6: we about to take.

1377
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: It to the peak to pay attention every time I speak.

1378
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 6: And y'all know they puffing from mac.

1379
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: You don't reflesh it on the jail, take the microphone.

1380
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 6: And crush it in the sand.

1381
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: Melancholy.

1382
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm about to do it off the melon. Probably

1383
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 6: I lift you up if you feel melancholi. Y'all know

1384
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 6: I can't do with the rath Square guarantee to lift

1385
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 6: your moved. If you feel a sadness, we about to

1386
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 6: flip your frail upside down when we come through with

1387
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 6: the live rails. I spend it off the tip of this.

1388
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 3: Y'all know, I'm that dude.

1389
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 6: Rainy days in Portland, y'all that was the melancholy move.

1390
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: Take it to Broadway.

1391
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 6: Okay, uh, i'm'a spin it in a Broadway. Theatrical liveries

1392
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 6: were taking the Broadway. Y'all know I can't do the slave.

1393
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 6: I run my Broadway. But y'all know the mac don't play. Listen,

1394
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 6: I'm do winding bigger than that. But they be yelling

1395
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 6: now Mama Mia Max the strongest free uh not rhyme. Man,

1396
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 6: you know what got the standards? Yeah, h man, coming

1397
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 6: with the stands us. Look were about to break it down.

1398
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 6: Theatrical livers that come through with the crazy saund the

1399
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 6: better perspected than never projected about the dective begin interjected,

1400
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 6: y'all know the negget respected. Come on, yeah, and I'm

1401
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 6: about to make the people go man and yo, nor

1402
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 6: hit me with the next mov cav o daga Okay, okay, okay, Okay, listen. Uh,

1403
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 6: I'm the type of rapper they would beg for. Catch

1404
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 6: me rhyming outside of your blow tegger win not rhyme man.

1405
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 6: You know I hit the truest target on the West coast.

1406
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 6: We just call them supermarkets, h. Mac, I'm the number

1407
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 6: one performer something like a bodega because I get found

1408
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 6: on every corner. I'm always ready, y'all know we out

1409
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 6: here to risk. I leave the podecca. You know, I

1410
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 6: got my soda and chips and my bottle of water

1411
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 6: for the proper hydration. Except being the corrector, Mac, that's

1412
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 6: a violation. Look, I let it flow. Y'all know, I'm

1413
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 6: top choice. Leave my water, rin my teeth from the

1414
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 6: poteca for my voice.

1415
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 7: Come on, diagnostic, h And y'all know they could.

1416
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 6: Have stopped it. Yeah, we can't through with the hotness.

1417
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 6: I'm too sick for any diagnostics. Yeah, y'all know they

1418
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 6: couldn't diagnose this dopeness. Every time you close. It's parochious

1419
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 6: preaching when I'm speaking. But the Meccan's not a reverend.

1420
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 8: Ever.

1421
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 6: We talk a m and I'm gonna give y'all a

1422
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 6: medicine I who's as live as me number Jones on

1423
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 6: that ep knee and I for read she'd been playing

1424
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 6: the keys every time that the rhyme. Y'all are slaved

1425
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 6: with these. Oh my heart is sore what I came

1426
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 6: here to give. But please, people, please let the elephants live.

1427
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 6: And they already in danger, so don't be hunting every

1428
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 6: time a rhyme. I get rid of your resumptions. Yeah,

1429
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 6: I'm nice. Every time that I bussed till my lyprics

1430
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 6: on a point like an elephant tusk. That raint no rapper.

1431
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 6: How is live as me?

1432
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: But but nothing never know survive in me?

1433
01:04:45,120 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Come on, give me one more.

1434
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 6: That was fun.

1435
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: That was fun.

1436
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 7: That was fun.

1437
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 6: That's hard to do.

1438
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 5: I like that.

1439
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: Hard to do it at the same time at the

1440
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, yeah, it's a muscle memory, right.

1441
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. I'm really glad that we're doing this because this

1442
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 6: is such a cool opportunity for me to take this

1443
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 6: like out of my out of my practice room. Now

1444
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 6: that's cool, and to be in this environment. This is

1445
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 6: such a good environment for it, and I'm loving it.

1446
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 8: It. Yeah.

1447
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: Do you get out of breath faster when you're playing

1448
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: at the same time?

1449
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 6: You know, it's weird. I kind of get out of

1450
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 6: breath faster because there's the physicality of playing. I'm not

1451
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 6: playing that loud right now obviously, so it's not that crazy.

1452
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 6: And also my drum parts are simple when I'm rapping,

1453
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 6: because they have to be. Yeah, but uh, but I

1454
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 6: get my voice gets weird, I get like more spit

1455
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 6: in my.

1456
01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have the same sort of flow.

1457
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 6: Something like, I don't even know what it is. Yeah,

1458
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 6: but I've just noticed that I'll start my I'm like, whoa,

1459
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 6: I need to like swallow or like breathe or like

1460
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 6: do something.

1461
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, because well, some people hold

1462
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: their breath when they play drums, yes, you know, and

1463
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: I used to do that at times, So maybe that's

1464
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: what it is. You're like, you can't because you're doing

1465
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: the thing, but you're also that's like your muscle.

1466
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 6: I think so, And actually, I think in a way

1467
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 6: that's one of the good things about rapping while I

1468
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 6: play is that it forces me to breathe while I play,

1469
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 6: And because I did used to, it was hard to

1470
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 6: I remember for a while I was like practicing like

1471
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 6: breathing and rhythm, you know, while I play. Oh, yeah,

1472
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 6: trying to coordinate.

1473
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 1: So that you wouldn't be like holding your breath. Yeah, yeah,

1474
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: that's so interesting.

1475
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm so focused. I think that's why I

1476
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 6: hold the breath, because I'm really focused on what I'm doing.

1477
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, some of my favorite musicians

1478
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: are are drummers who sing. Yes, you know, because and

1479
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: there's such a different thing even when I'm playing piano.

1480
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: If I were to just sing and not play, yeah,

1481
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: I sing different.

1482
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, they they're they're meshed.

1483
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: They're married in a way that I think is it's

1484
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: actually my special thing. You know, I can I can

1485
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: do it. I can play and I can sing, and

1486
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: I can do them separately, but when I put them together,

1487
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: that's where they kind of come alive.

1488
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And you can tell just watching you know, watching

1489
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 6: you and listening to your records and it's just yeah,

1490
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: that's that's the magic.

1491
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't mean to make you complimentary.

1492
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 6: But I do not feelabligated.

1493
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: But I do mean, I do mean like it's probably

1494
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: going to open a new channel for you, where like

1495
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: it becomes one in a way, like it already sounds

1496
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: like one to me, but like just since you haven't

1497
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: done it that much. I mean it'll you know, maybe

1498
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: that's like a whole other I think.

1499
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 6: So, and I really want that. That's what I was

1500
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 6: saying to my manager Mikey, who's here. I was like, dude,

1501
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 6: I want to just go on and and play drums

1502
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 6: for every thing we do on the podcast. Was because

1503
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 6: that's what it makes so much sense. Know, I'm here

1504
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 6: with you. You're such an amazing musician. You're going to

1505
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 6: be playing and singing and accompanying yourself, and it's like

1506
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 6: it would just be so nice to be able to

1507
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 6: and then there's not as much planning that's needed either.

1508
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 6: It's like I can just kind of come in and

1509
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 6: get comfy at the drums and play and so, yeah,

1510
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 6: this has been a goal of mine. So this is,

1511
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 6: you know what, a step in the right direction. Check.

1512
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah we did, y'all. Well this was

1513
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: so fun, so fun. Thank you for doing this.

1514
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 6: My absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.

1515
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 6: It's it's been an honor.

1516
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: I could do it all day, but I don't want

1517
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: to be greedy me too.

1518
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well we'll do it for my album, So we'll.

1519
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: Be in touch anytime anytime. I love to play it's

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Speaker 1: like my favorite thing. Yes, you too, we don't have

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Speaker 1: to rehearse even better you're speaking.

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Speaker 6: Come on, I'm so down.

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Speaker 1: That's why I book so many gigs because I just

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Speaker 1: want to go do it.

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Speaker 6: You know, Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you, thank you, Nora.

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Speaker 3: Yay.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was so fun. That was amazing. He's incredible. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What a good dude too, just like sweetheart.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and a good sport.

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Speaker 4: Because I feel like we were really trying to stump him.

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Speaker 6: You guys were, yeah, but I didn't like that. I

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Speaker 6: actually he liked it.

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Speaker 3: He did.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to stump him.

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Speaker 5: This is mean.

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Speaker 1: You're like, how many work to choose wine wine for

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: the rhyme wine. We're like fiduciary. That's a good I said, no,

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Speaker 1: that's mean, I'm not giving him that word.

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Speaker 6: He loved it.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, stump me. I try to stump me.

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Speaker 1: He's so funny. Can't be stumped. That was a joy.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know what we played in this episode, well,

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Speaker 1: we just played a bunch of random stuff improvised. The

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Speaker 1: first song was Freestyle Number one. Second song I did

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Speaker 1: use part of one of my songs called Sinking Soon,

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01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: but Sinking Soon was from an album I May called

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Speaker 1: Not Too Late and Too and seven, but we just

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Speaker 1: took a snippet of it. Basically, it's all freestyle the

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Speaker 1: rest of it, but other than that second song, it's

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Speaker 1: all's freestyle. Special. Thanks to Harry Mack for joining us today,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back next week with Madison Cunningham. Norah

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Speaker 1: Jones Is Playing Along is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Visit Norah Jones channel and be sure to subscribe while

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Speaker 1: you're there. I'm your host, Norah Jones. This episode was

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Speaker 1: recorded by Kyle Pass, mixed by Jamie Landry. Additional recording

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Speaker 1: by Matt Marinelli. Audio post production and mastering by Greg Tobler.

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Speaker 1: Our work by Eliza Fry. Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced

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Speaker 1: by Nora Jones and Sarah Oda. Executive producers Aaron Wang

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Speaker 1: Kaufman and Jordan Rundag. Marketing Lead Alison Kanter Graber