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Speaker 1: four more details. Well, game day is here. I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys had a great Giants free weekend, got to

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Speaker 1: watch a little bit of other football. Will of course,

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Speaker 1: how our full throated Giants Cowboys preview UH today with

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Join us to

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Speaker 1: close out the show at two fifteen. Mickey, of course

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Speaker 1: in the Tri state area. He'll be at the game tonight.

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Speaker 1: We have a short pregame show on the radio, so

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna hear from Mickey on the air, but

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Speaker 1: we want to get him on today. Uh Lands. Let's

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Speaker 1: start the news over the weekend, and that was Sterling Shepherd. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: and you know, with the concussions You just never know

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Speaker 1: how these things are gonna go. After being cleared from

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Speaker 1: wasn't feeling well, went back into protocol. Who knows how

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Speaker 1: long it's gonna be, but the bottom line, at least

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Speaker 1: for today, he's not going to be an action against

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys tonight. It's a fluid situation. John. With any concussion,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly unfortunate news because it really changed dramatically, it seemed,

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Speaker 1: in the span of twenty four hours. He was cleared

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, the Giants announced, and then later that night,

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Speaker 1: according to what the Giants released in a statement on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: he all of a sudden started to have some issues.

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Speaker 1: By the way, reported that to the training step, practice

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Speaker 1: in full for three straight days. Yeah, I mean, he

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Speaker 1: how it was such a challenge being a spectator, and

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Speaker 1: he compared it to you know, when you have an

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Speaker 1: you're a hundred percent. When it's a concussion, you really

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Speaker 1: never know when you're on your present for this very reason,

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Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, symptoms can show up when

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Speaker 1: you leae suspect. Yeah. I was talking with somebody this

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Speaker 1: morning casually and they're like, you know, it's hard, and

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Speaker 1: There's no test to tell you when you're ready to

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Speaker 1: come back from a concussion. And I'm happy that Sterling

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Speaker 1: concussion this year when he got nearly knocked out against

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing that he reported. It's for his

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Sterling Shepherd right now, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans are looking forward to seeing him

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Speaker 1: the Giants that complete set of talent john that we've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for to put around Daniel Jones. Unfortunately, that's

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Speaker 1: as close to one that we've seen in quite some time.

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Speaker 1: And he is over seventy completions, two thousand yards, twelve touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: in danger a little bit. And boy, this Cowboy offense

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Speaker 1: lance is probably the best offense the Giants will see

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Speaker 1: this season, depending on what you think of Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: half of the year. But this offense is great, it's balanced,

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Speaker 1: easy for the Giants. You've got to contain the explosive plays. John.

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Speaker 1: Dallas had seven plays of twenty or more yards in

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Speaker 1: see how DeAndre Baker plays tonight because remember John Week

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Speaker 1: How do you make the necessary adjustments and also what

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Speaker 1: have the number thirty five percent on third downs of

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Speaker 1: For the Cowboys. Well, and you know what that reminds

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Speaker 1: me of. It reminds me of the Lions game, John,

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Speaker 1: The problem was it really made no difference the down

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Speaker 1: te off on your quarterback on third down. So all

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Speaker 1: those issues are linked obviously, Those to me are the

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Speaker 1: things that Giants offense has to be good at today

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Speaker 1: if they want a shot. Here's another thing that I

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Speaker 1: think we should bring up before we open up the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I think special teams warrants to mention in this game, John,

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Speaker 1: and the reason I bring that up, it's more so

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Speaker 1: about giving opportunities to the Cowboys. Brett Maher. Their kicker

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Speaker 1: has been outstanding this season. We're talking about not from

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Speaker 1: short though, well yeah, but from deep no. But my

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Speaker 1: point is when you think maybe you're forcing Dallas to punt,

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett'll send him out. He did that against the

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Speaker 1: Eagles right before the half, and he came through with

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Speaker 1: a sixty plus yard field goal. He's nailed two sixty

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Speaker 1: plus yard field goal, first kicker and second kicker in

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Speaker 1: history to have two sixty plus yard field goals in

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Speaker 1: the same year. I think Janikowski was the second. If

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Speaker 1: I remember right, you could be correct something that staff that.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if that holds to be true.

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Speaker 1: He's three for five from fifty plus yards. So the

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Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is at the end of halves,

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Speaker 1: the two minute drill. You gotta be cautious if you're

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Speaker 1: the Giants and you're on defense because Brent Maher's range

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Speaker 1: is a lot different than other kickers. So that's one

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Speaker 1: thing to note. And then the other aspect is the

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Speaker 1: left footed punter and how you handle that. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Giants had brought in a left footed punter on their

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Speaker 1: practice squad to get good looks. Thomas mcgahey even talked

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Speaker 1: about that this week when he spoke to the media,

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Speaker 1: so they've had some familiarity. But that's also as our

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Speaker 1: very own Jeff Eagles can tell you, it's a completely

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Speaker 1: different look compared to what you see gaming in game out.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of breakdown on the left footed

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Speaker 1: punter on the pregame. That's make sure you tune into that.

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Speaker 1: Must listen to r oh yes, it sounds absolutely big. Well.

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Speaker 1: let's get to the owns. We take your calls in

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Speaker 1: the next half an hour or so or twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Then we will get to Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Let's go to the phones and say what's

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Speaker 1: up to Marcus in Arizona? Who will lead us off?

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Speaker 1: Hey Marcus? You guys, Hey Marcus, can you take us

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Speaker 1: off speaker please? Yeah? Thank you? Good? Right ahead? What

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Speaker 1: do you got for us? All right? I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to hopefully provide some optimistic optimism for next year. I

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Speaker 1: was watching the San Francisco game the other night and

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Speaker 1: compared to where San Francisco was when Cole Shanahan got there,

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Speaker 1: this is your three of San Francisco's plans, So maybe

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Speaker 1: we should be a little bit patient with shermer Becher

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Speaker 1: and Gettleman. Well yeah, look, yeah, look I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Every everyone knew this was stage two here. Stage three

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Speaker 1: is next year when you're gonna really start trying to

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Speaker 1: build up a little bit more. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Look at how good San Francisco is compared to the

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Speaker 1: last few and their lights out in your three. Well

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Speaker 1: the other thing, well, look I agree with you, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: The other thing, though, to take at the consideration, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo was hurt one year he towards a C L.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's understandable they were gonna struggle. They

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Speaker 1: lost their quarterback, I think, and the Giants have switched

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year, true, absolutely, but I think just the

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Speaker 1: dynamics of how they've put together the team slightly different

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Speaker 1: than perhaps what the Giants are faced. And they also

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Speaker 1: have a lot more top ten picks on their roster

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Speaker 1: right now than the Giants do, especially with their defensive front.

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Speaker 1: Yet how they've constructed that, I mean, yeah, but if

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Speaker 1: you think about our defense, not just our drafts, but

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Speaker 1: we have a bunch of first round picks in our

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Speaker 1: defense now, like a bunch, so a lot of topics.

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Speaker 1: But the thing I would like to see tonight, besides

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Speaker 1: the wind, is I want to see forty rushing attempts

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Speaker 1: between Goldman and Barkley, whether we're down or not, because

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Speaker 1: I think so you want to lose off the field

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Speaker 1: and we just need to run the ball, just running

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Speaker 1: and Marcus, Marcus, what happens if you it and you

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Speaker 1: gained two yards per carry and you're in third and

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Speaker 1: six and you're punting, you're down twenty one nothing in

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Speaker 1: the second quarter, you want to keep running it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna keep they're gonna break one. I

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Speaker 1: mean looking in Week one, this was my corigination with no.

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Speaker 1: I felt like Sean Payton in the Saints game was

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Speaker 1: down by twenty four at the half, I think by

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Speaker 1: like twenty something, and they came out in the third

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Speaker 1: and they ran it I think like of the time

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Speaker 1: in the second half and still won the game like

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Speaker 1: they used four. Do you remember which game that was

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Speaker 1: the Saints you're talking about the season, because I was

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Speaker 1: so mad that I think what Kuan had like fifteen

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Speaker 1: rush attempts or something. I was a little upset. So

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Speaker 1: you're talking about that Texans game. They were never down

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Speaker 1: by twenty four three? Yeah, okay, sorry, I was a baby.

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Speaker 1: That was a long time. If you remember watching Camaro

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Speaker 1: as a running back most of the game, I just

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Speaker 1: me to really, I'm more excited for your three in

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Speaker 1: the plan. I hope we get uh either that free

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Speaker 1: safety from l s U or Chase Young from Ohio

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Speaker 1: State in the first round, and I think we could

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Speaker 1: turn things around. Thank thank you, Marcus appreciate it. Well.

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Speaker 1: Chase Young is unbelievable. He's having just a ridiculous college season. Um, Look,

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Speaker 1: you never go into the game and say we need

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Speaker 1: to run an x number of times. That's not how

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Speaker 1: you win, that's how you lose. And I understand you

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Speaker 1: want to run the ball effectively. I agree with the concept,

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Speaker 1: and then the theme and the thoughts behind this sake.

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Speaker 1: One hasn't gotten going in the two games he's been back.

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Speaker 1: You want to get him going, no argument. We've seen

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Speaker 1: teams run on this cowboy defense before. Go to the

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Speaker 1: playoff game last year against the Rams where they have

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Speaker 1: so much movement and they try to get a field

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Speaker 1: so much, they get these big holes. Guys can make

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Speaker 1: really really big plays in the running game, really big

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Speaker 1: players in the running game. That's my guy. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us in the Cowboys, calling me who we have on

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Speaker 1: the show sometimes. Um, so that's what you're looking for

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Speaker 1: when you have Barkley out there. But you can't say

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Speaker 1: we need to run X number of times that help

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Speaker 1: us win the game. And if you're not three scores

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter, no, you should have keep running

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna lose. Something called urgency does not afford

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Speaker 1: you the luxury of doing that. Also, by the way,

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Speaker 1: dumping it off to Sae Kwon Barkley as a receiver,

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Speaker 1: which is what the Saints do with Alvid Kamara. To me,

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Speaker 1: is an extension of the run game. So when you

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Speaker 1: say you have to run the football, it's a little misleading.

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Speaker 1: I think the larger point is get the ball in

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Speaker 1: the hands of your best playmakers, and that could easily

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Speaker 1: come with a two yard dump off and then see

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Speaker 1: if he can then gain yak yardage. You can always

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Speaker 1: sell that as a big part of the run game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to go into a game saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we've got to give Sae Kwon Barkley twenty somehow touches

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Speaker 1: that to me reminds me of can you imagine a

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Speaker 1: quarterback John goes into a game and says, I've got

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Speaker 1: to target this wide receiver fifteen times. So that means

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Speaker 1: you want him to only look in that direction of

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Speaker 1: the field when he's got other guys winning one on

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Speaker 1: one battles. Come on, that's just silly. You can't think

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Speaker 1: like that. That sounds more like he's on your fantasy

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Speaker 1: football team than you want to win a football And

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Speaker 1: especially if the Cowboys start putting eight guys in the

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Speaker 1: box and stuff and they're clogging the line, you got

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Speaker 1: one on one coverage outside, No, you attack the coverage.

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Speaker 1: You guys look in. Some ways, football is a simple game.

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Speaker 1: It's all about numbers. If you have seven blockers and

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Speaker 1: the only have six, do you have six blockers, only

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Speaker 1: have five or six guys in the block in the box,

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Speaker 1: that's an advantage for you. If you have six guys

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Speaker 1: in the box looking a block and they have seven

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Speaker 1: or eight, well guess what, that's not a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: to run the football. So it's all about numbers. You know.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this last year when teams would just

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Speaker 1: rush three and drop eight guys in the coverage, and

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Speaker 1: the Giants were sending out four wide receivers. Well, guess what,

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Speaker 1: it's hard for four guys to get open against eight

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Speaker 1: guys in coverage. It's it's it's you know, football. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's a really really simple numbers game. And and and

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what it is. Two one nine four

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Speaker 1: or five one three? Back to Uh, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to him. Next Lene three Atlanta, We'll go to Greg. Greg.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Thank goodness, what's happening? Great? We're good? Good? Right? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I just called. I got a couple of things. The

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Speaker 1: same man. I like the direction that the Giants are

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00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: headed in. Although we're two and six, we got key

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Speaker 1: players at key positions and we just need to continue

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Speaker 1: to build. The Lending Williams thing was a good tick

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Speaker 1: up because you can always at depth. Um. But two

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Speaker 1: points out, well, one is a question. We're both the questions.

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Speaker 1: Actually one is uh the trade deadline that just passed?

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Speaker 1: It is over with right correct October's correct. Um. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, like, what are we doing with Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: Did we try to shop him or we're gonna let

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Speaker 1: him retire in that ship or what's to do? Well,

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Speaker 1: his contracts up after the year, so you will make

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Speaker 1: a decision on what he wants to do. It's really

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Speaker 1: that simple. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, his contract is up

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Speaker 1: after the year. And the other other thing I want

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Speaker 1: to say, and it's not it's more so a point

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Speaker 1: than the question. I just would like. I was upset

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Speaker 1: when we could get Daniel Jones in the beginning and

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Speaker 1: watched a lot of people, but he won me over.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm a little excited about what we have. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I would like to see with him is

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Speaker 1: someone please tell him it's okay to funebo. I mean

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Speaker 1: that it's not okay, but it happens, but with two hands. No,

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Speaker 1: I just need to see some more of that, and

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Speaker 1: I'll be extremely happy with Damian Jones and Ipe the

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Speaker 1: Giants winning to night. But I just hope that I

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Speaker 1: just be We're trending in the right direction. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: That's all I had to say. Appreciate it. And look,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to like what you see on

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Speaker 1: a Daniel Jones. And look, we had this conversation two

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Speaker 1: years ago. We talked about the quarterback class. The fumbles

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Speaker 1: don't worry me. It's easy to coach out fumbles, all right,

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Speaker 1: get two hands on the ball, So it's not easy,

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Speaker 1: but it's easier. Right, you get into a better habit essentially, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are there are fundamental things that you can do

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Speaker 1: from a technical standpoint to hold onto the football in

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Speaker 1: the pocket now, decision making under pressure and throwing the

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Speaker 1: ball on the coverage. Those are the two things that

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Speaker 1: I look at with Joan is where you want to

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Speaker 1: make sure he gets that squared away because Lance, even

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Speaker 1: on plays where he hasn't done interceptions, there's been a

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00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: lot of place here we're stolen the ball into crowded

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00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: areas where you know guys have the chances for picks

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00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: they haven't made him, And that's where he has to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit careful moving forward, Yeah, because the

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Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is kill the momentum

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00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: of your offense on a lengthy driver also changed the

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Speaker 1: field position for your defense. But you know there's also

643
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Speaker 1: the throws he makes the Darius Slayden last week where

644
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: he put it where his guy went up on a

645
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: jump ball, made a play for his quarterback and was

646
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: able to get into the end zone. So you know,

647
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: those are the encouraging signs on the flip side. You

648
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: want to see him understand. Hey, there's times when you

649
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: need to take those chances, and there's times when it's

650
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: probably safe to just, hey, dump it off or throw

651
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: the ball away and live to see another down in

652
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: another day, and don't hold the ball sometimes, which can

653
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: also get you into trouble. To five, one three, All right, Charlie,

654
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: line four. Let's get it over with, Hey, buddy, let's

655
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: get it over. Turn up the lights, the birdies over.

656
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: He is supposed to wring tonight because I hear there's

657
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of booze coming from midlife stadiums.

658
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: You've really been working on some new material. I see.

659
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're the guinea pigs. What else is

660
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: on your laundry list of Okay, yeah, I just you know,

661
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: I just saw stat the offense has given up nineteen

662
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: turnovers and I think we're in the top two or

663
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: three of doing that. Number one, how many of those

664
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: are Mr Jones? Mr Fumbles? Fifteen or those are him?

665
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Fifteen of those turnovers are him? Yeah, that's what we

666
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: just talked about. That That's exactly what we just talked about.

667
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: So one off he you know, if he has two

668
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: or three or four tonight, is that going to sit

669
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: him down? Or has we got to wait till the

670
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: next week when he has another two. That's not happening, Charlie.

671
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: And when does it come to a point where this

672
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: guy is a detriment to his own growth in the

673
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: team And you say it's oh, it's collectible. Those fumbles

674
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: are real, Clark, you know we can fix those. Well,

675
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: he hasn't in six games. He hasn't. How is he

676
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: going to do He didn't fumblest week. That's a good

677
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: step in the right there, But he didn't lose a fumble.

678
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: He didn't lose that's right, you're right, you're right, My bad,

679
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: you're right, absolutely well, But Charlie, I completely disagree with

680
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: you if your point is that you teach him to

681
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: not fumble by sending him on the bench. Though, Okay,

682
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: it's one thing to say he's got to clean up

683
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: the ball security, that's fair. It's another thing to then say, well,

684
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: the way we get him to correct that is for

685
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: him to become a spectator. The fact that and you

686
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: get contacting. You know, those guys go out there with

687
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: pads and they hit him, you know, when he's got

688
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. Okay, and they're doing some

689
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: of that and see if he can still hold on

690
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: in You're you're missing the larger point. This, this path

691
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: there down now is not even so much about this

692
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: year as it is about future years, And you're helping

693
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: the franchise in future seasons by having him out there

694
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: and taking these bumps and bruises and learning how to

695
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: play the position now then rather than having to learn

696
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: about it later. And yeah, you might have some painful

697
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: you know games along the way. That happens when you

698
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: play a rookie quarterback. But they're gonna come one way

699
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: or than others are gonna come now, or it's gonna

700
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: come later. Look, there's no way we win this game.

701
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: And if you know, I mean, we're gonna get blown out.

702
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: You just see it. We you know, we always play

703
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: at home and we always lay a big egg and

704
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Dallas is going to be, you know, just cooking. And

705
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, sit him down, give Eli an

706
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to play, let him go out this year, and

707
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: you can have Jones next year, trumble some more. You know,

708
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: I just don't get it, you know, I don't want

709
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: everyone's so high on this guy when he has a major,

710
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: major flaw. Is everybody blind? No, But Charlie, here's the thing.

711
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: It is a flaw, there's no question about it. It's

712
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: something that has to be corrected. But there are some

713
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: guys when you get him out that to play quarterback,

714
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: and what you see him in a game, you don't

715
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: even see the path to them becoming good. You see

716
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: a path here to him becoming a very good quarterback.

717
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Like you go watch you know, Dwayne Haskins, and right

718
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: now you don't see a path the way he's playing

719
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: he's not even close. You go out there, you go

720
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: watch you know, Josh Allen, and you wonder, is this

721
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: could ever gonna be accurate enough to be a high

722
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: efficiency quarterback? And you do other things. Sure, is he

723
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: ever gonna be accurate enough? Um? You know, look look

724
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: at Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. You see a path there.

725
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of problems, Sam Donald, a

726
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: lot of problems, but there's a path. So you know,

727
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: you have to give these guys a chance to work

728
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: through these issues. Otherwise you're never gonna know what you have. Yeah. Well,

729
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the thing is, I think you're gonna know what you

730
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: have if I'm just saying if he if he tonight

731
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: has three or four turnovers, fumbles, interceptions, I can understand

732
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: a bit, but not the fumble. So if he has

733
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: two or three fumbles, a couple of interceptions, I mean,

734
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: come on, it's not correctible. He not learning. You know,

735
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: you can't just keep putting this guy in there and

736
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: letting him keep fumbling and turning the ball over. You know,

737
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: you've got to sit them down at some point and say, look,

738
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: you know you can't keep doing this. You better watch

739
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: and learn, and in practice you're gonna be able to

740
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: have to hold on to the ball. Well, but they're

741
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: doing that, Charlie. But what you don't understand is, yeah,

742
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: but Charlie, what you don't understand, Charlie. During practice they're

743
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: working on those things. And the second thing is in

744
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: the film session he's learning because he's watching and talking

745
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: to Alex Tandy and Eli Manning. So those things can

746
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: be done John simultaneously while also playing in the games.

747
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: It's almost as if Charlie's point is he gets more

748
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: out of not playing because now he has more time

749
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: to work on the fundamentals. You can work on the

750
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: fundamentals and also prepare to be a starting quarterback. More

751
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: important to me is that there are things you learn

752
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: on the field that you cannot learn on the practice

753
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: absolutely or in the film room. And that's what he's doing.

754
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: He's taking his licks. Look when you what do we

755
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: talk about before the year with young players, you're going

756
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: to have growing pains, And it's nowhere more apparent than

757
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. It takes years sometimes for these guys

758
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: to figure these things out. It really does. It doesn't

759
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: go smoothly. Every Yeah, two o one nine four five

760
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: one three two one nine four five one three. Let's

761
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: go back to the phones. Scott is in New Mexico.

762
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: He's up next, he Scott, Hi, guys, how are you?

763
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm going to try to be a little

764
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: bit more positive about the Giants and one key, I'm

765
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: more interested in the game. I'm not so much interested

766
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: in what Daniel Jones does other than hopefully perform well tonight.

767
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: But the key to the game, I think of something

768
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: you addressed a little bit earlier lance, which is time

769
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: of possession, and I think that will be the key

770
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: to the Giants victory. And one of the things I

771
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: wanted to ask, I don't know if you saw the

772
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: New England Baltimore game last night, and in that game

773
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: forgetting that, Lamar acts and is in a class by

774
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: himself so far as what he does. But they used

775
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: a number of different tight ends and they brought in

776
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: a tackle. I think can the Giants adapt that to

777
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: create perhaps more running abilities for Sequan and for Wayne Goldman.

778
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Can they adapt something sim I'm not saying exactly the

779
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: same thing, or or do r pos with more personnel

780
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: like double tight ends or attack ends to create the

781
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: ability to be able to run more and I was

782
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: just curious if if something like that can be adapted

783
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: for tonight against adalysis team. It's possible they can do it.

784
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're going to. And I'm

785
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: always of the mind, the more people you put it

786
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: that line of scrimmage and you jam up there, whether

787
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: it's multiple tight ends, a fullback, or even an extra

788
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, a lot of the times, all that does

789
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: is draw more defenders into the box and there's less

790
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: room to run. I'm more of a guy that I

791
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: want to spread the field. You have a guy with

792
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: s Kuon Barkley that's great in space. What I want

793
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: to bring even more guys into that box that the

794
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Now, if you're talking like you know,

795
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: certain specific situations where you want to pound the football,

796
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: that's fine. If a team is weak up front, they

797
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: have light linemen or line linebackers, you don't pound that,

798
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. But generally speaking, you start putting multiple tight

799
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: ends in, you start putting in, you know, multiple offensive lineman,

800
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: which is you know, obviously a bigger factor than the

801
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: tight ends. You're just gonna jam more and more people

802
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: up in that box, and it's it's gonna be less

803
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: room to move. Yeah, and I also think you know

804
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: that's a staple of Baltimore's offense too. They've been utilizing

805
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: multiple tight ends and mark Ingram and Lamar Jackson is

806
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: a one to punch In terms of their backfield, they

807
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: utilize Gus Edwards. You know, what you were seeing last

808
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: night was certainly impressive, Scott. I don't think it was

809
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: necessarily anything earth shattering that the Ravens having leaned on

810
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I guess that's my bigger point.

811
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: And with the bigger people up front, Scott Jackson's added

812
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: running ability creates more space just because of his ability

813
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: to use misdirection and stuff like that. Daniel Jones has

814
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: the ability right not obviously what Lamar jacksonbody can take off.

815
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: And again that's why I was sort of leaning that way.

816
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: My last question, and I'll take it off the air,

817
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: uh was basically with Leonard Williams having him on the line,

818
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: does that less than the possibility of creating more blitz

819
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: packages for tonight because they'd be worried about what you know,

820
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: the Dallas team would be able to do with that,

821
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: or do you think that will increase the chances of

822
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: maybe going back to what Bescher was famous for it,

823
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: which was, you know, blitzing most of the time. And

824
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: I'll take your answers off of your guys. Than thank

825
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: you appreciate the phone calls. Guy. You know what, No,

826
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it does. Do you know I don't

827
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: think it does either. What Actually he just reminded me

828
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: of And I was going to bring up the document.

829
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I thought I saw a note that actually, when the

830
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: Giants are blitzing, quarterbacks have actually been extremely successful. John,

831
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: did you see that note that I'm talking about. Well,

832
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: that was a note that I had in my top

833
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: five things for the second half of the year because

834
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: I've had people ask questions, why don't the Giants blitzmore?

835
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: So here's my quote I'll read myself, So why not blitzmore?

836
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: According to ProFootball focus on the Giants blitz this year

837
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks or fifty one of seventy four for seven

838
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: hundred and seven yards and four touchdowns. That would explain it.

839
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: That's not good. Four touchdowns and no interceptions. By the way, yes,

840
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: one seventy four. That's a seventy fetsim higher. That's like

841
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: a seventy seven percent completion percentage fifty one completions for

842
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy one yard that's fifteen plus yards

843
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: per catch. No blitzing has not worked. If anything, William's

844
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: presence maybe it gives you more confidence you can get

845
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: hold right four without having the blitz, so you don't

846
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: have to bring an army. Yes, So that's why that

847
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: was gonna be my response to Scott John. I'm glad

848
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: you had the number ready to go to unwind there

849
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: because that's a reason why we don't even have to

850
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: have the blitz conversation. So forget Leondard Williams on the

851
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: field or off the field. What he provides you is

852
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: just another big body that could put pressure from the

853
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: interior and force Dak Prescott out of the pocket. And

854
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: you know see what he could do that way. That's

855
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: the mission that you want to accomplish with having Leonard

856
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: Williams on the field, not to say, oh, that gives

857
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: us flexibility to bring guys down from the secondary and

858
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: have them aggressively go after Dak Prescott two five one

859
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: through a squeezing. These two more calls before we get

860
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: to Mickey Spagnola at two big end of Maryland, big head,

861
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, what do you got? Hey, guys, what's up?

862
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: What's up? That happening again? Yeah? Okay, what's going on?

863
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Are we doing? All right? We're a little long time baby.

864
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's go all right. Well, I'm on the strategy

865
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: level with the guys on this game, and my thinking

866
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: of it is to win this game, we gotta simply

867
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: be aggressive. And being aggressive is if we can go

868
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: block one time, why can't we go block a couple more,

869
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: particularly on special teams. If if we can be strong

870
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: enough to give them a rush to block a couple

871
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: of punts, why not Definitely the best place to blitz

872
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: that other than normal coverage. But I feel like we

873
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: gotta play man to man and then have safety help

874
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: over the time because we played containing in the back

875
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: as well as we played containment in the front. What

876
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: you guys think it gives our chance was a very

877
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: much good look? Right? Well, keep in mind, you know

878
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a field day the first time they

879
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: went up against the Giants, whether it be zone or

880
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: man to man. But you know, it reminds me, John

881
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: of the conversation you and I had against the Lions.

882
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: What was that one play with Remember the deep ball.

883
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: Marvin Hall and we talked about how the Giants actually

884
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: were in the right defense on that play, and it

885
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: was just a matter of the lack of execution. So

886
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, to me, I don't really think it's a

887
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: matter of big head. You know, they gotta go to man,

888
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: they gotta go to zone. I think they've had a

889
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: number of good looks that have put them in promising situations.

890
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: Just unfortunately you haven't seen the execution meet the look

891
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: consistently so far this season. Okay, all right, well, okay,

892
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: well I'm looking at it like you know, we we

893
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: really got a good chance. But here's the thing I've

894
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: been wanting to say I had in my head. I've

895
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: been wanting to say it for a while now, and

896
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: finally get a chance to say it. We need to

897
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: play what they call mistake free football. When we play

898
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: mistake free football, and make it a habit to be

899
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: a tripping thing to around the locker room to play

900
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: mistake free football, just like the commercialom. We got a

901
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: chance to win every game, I'll slip it to the

902
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: playoffs than you possible after that. But yeah, all right, guys,

903
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: we'll see you a little while man, we're gonna do

904
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: a pig appreciate we win. Thank you as do. Stop

905
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: by the stage. We'll be there for you. And look,

906
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: the thing was quote it was either Tom Coffin or

907
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: somebody else. Games are lost more than their one and

908
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: that comes to the mistake free football. They haven't had

909
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: a game without any turnovers, by the way, so far

910
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: this season, so that says a lot to a one

911
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: nine four or five one three. Let's go to our

912
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: final call the show. Let's go over to Gavin in Florida,

913
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: who will wrap us up before we get to Mickey Spagnola. Gavin,

914
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Guys? How you doing? Awesome? Awesome?

915
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: So I don't want to take up too much of time.

916
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I just want to complain about Charlie and how crazy

917
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: he is. Well, we have more than enough time to

918
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: complain about Charlie or help us win the game. The

919
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: guy has been the guy has been a statue for

920
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: the last three years. Uh, and the Dallas Cowboys have

921
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: done what to us over the last three years. They've

922
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. Yeah, exactly. So you know

923
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: we played Daniel Dimes. He hasn't played before against the Cowboys,

924
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: we see what we got. As long as the offensive

925
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: line can hold up and maybe give us a little

926
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: bit of time to throw the football, stay kwanbark, we

927
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: can get running. I think we'll have an okay day.

928
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: And our defensive line has to play better. And that's it,

929
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's simple. You know, it's fronts,

930
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: the two fronts, the offensive line of the defensive line.

931
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: They can show up today and we have a shot.

932
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, you

933
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: have to be physical with the Dallas Cowboys. I agree

934
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: with you there. I mean, look back at that Jets

935
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: game for example, when Dallas needed the game tying two

936
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: point conversion and Greg Williams called on the blitz and

937
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: they got the better of that front and Dak Prescott

938
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: had to get rid of the football a little bit

939
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: sooner than he anticipated. So yeah, you've got to be

940
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: able to get after the offensive line of the Cowboys.

941
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: But you have to win your battles more often than not,

942
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: and that's easier said than done. So it's gonna be

943
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: a huge test for the Giants defensive line and whether

944
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: or not they can consistently get home because you know,

945
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: that's going to say a lot about how the tone

946
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: of this game I think is going to play out. Plus,

947
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: Zeke's a very physical running back who can shed tackles

948
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: and gain yardage after the initial hit. The mis tackling,

949
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: the ability to bring him down on first hit, that

950
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: I think is also going to tell a lot about

951
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: how effective. And it's about keeping the It's all about

952
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: keeping their offensive line to get from getting to the

953
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: second level. They can if our linebacks keep clean because

954
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: our defensive line is holding up, especially now with the

955
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: addition of Leonard Williams, who's a big body who can

956
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: who can at least eat up one blocker. You know,

957
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: our linebackers are that's the struggle. The struggle is they

958
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: can't get off the blocks, especially if the second if

959
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: the if at the top offensive lineman of the Cowboys

960
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: get to us, you know we're gonna be We're gonna

961
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: get beaten up. You know, our big guys gotta get

962
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: in there and beat therapy guys. It's very simple football,

963
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I appreciate the call, thanks a lot.

964
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: And look, winning up front is is a big part

965
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: of this. It always is. And yeah, I mean, look,

966
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line can dominate games, are defensive and

967
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: can dominate games. Can the Giants prevent that? And we're

968
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna find out from our next guest. He's He's from

969
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com and one of our frequent guests

970
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: this year. We have it again, Mickey Am. We had

971
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: a short pregame show and I couldn't squeeze him on

972
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: the radios. We want to get him on this afternoon. Mickey.

973
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: First of all, how you ending your night in afternoon

974
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: in the New York City area. I'll tell you what

975
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: when you when you come out of a bye and

976
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: then you and then you play a Monday night game.

977
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: It's like this has going on forever. Oh we we Uh,

978
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: we got up and you know, I had a couple

979
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: of radio things to do this morning, and then we

980
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: shot a little TV thing for our website with the

981
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Manhattan in the background. We're staying in Jersey City. I

982
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: had had a little lunch and then uh, talking to

983
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: you guys, and pretty soon it's time for that early

984
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: bus to go to the game. Absolutely, and Mickey, why

985
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: don't we start here? Uh? You look at the numbers

986
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys offense defense stats, third down defense, offense

987
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: you name it, go down the list. How the heck

988
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: did you guys lose three games? Yeah, and you're exactly right,

989
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: especially when you lose two of those three games by

990
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: two points. Uh, and one of those to the Jets,

991
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: which at for that happened. I kept saying somewhere along

992
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: the line, this loss is going to come back to

993
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: haunt him. And I don't know if it's uh, you know,

994
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: not win in the division or not getting in the playoffs,

995
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: or have not having home field advantage for more than

996
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: one week. But yeah, you can't lose that game. Uh.

997
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: And and the and the and maybe the worst part

998
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: was is after you see what the Saints are doing

999
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: and you went on the road and held them to

1000
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: twelve points and didn't win the game because you turned

1001
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the ball over. Uh. That had a lot to do

1002
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: turnovers in that game. Turnovers against the Packers had a

1003
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: lot to do with the fact that they're sitting here

1004
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: at four and three with the stats that you pointed out,

1005
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: because the offensive stats, you know they're going into this weekend, Uh,

1006
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: they had to you know, number one offense, and if

1007
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: you look at all the other stats, number one offense

1008
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: on yards per play, yards per pass h third down conversions,

1009
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: on and on and on, and then you're sitting here

1010
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: at four and three and scrambling just to be able

1011
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: to stay in the first place in the NFC East. Well, Mickey,

1012
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: the last time the Giants of the Cowboys went up

1013
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: against one another, Zeke was just coming off his lengthy

1014
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: hold out because he missed all of training camp, so

1015
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: just wound up with thirteen carries in that game. Let's

1016
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: face it, they didn't really need him because Dallas had

1017
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: a field day through the air. But it seems to

1018
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: me when you look at the numbers, forget the eye test,

1019
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: they seem to be getting him more and more involved.

1020
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: Is the weeks of progress. They think he's averaging thirty

1021
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: and a half touches over the last two games. He's

1022
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: had over a hundred yards on the ground. How fair

1023
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: is that as a takeaway to say that little by

1024
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: little he's now getting stronger and more acclimated to being

1025
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: back that they've seemed to be feeding him a little

1026
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: bit more within the offensive flow. Yeah, I think that's

1027
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: a really good point. Uh. You know, practice is important, right,

1028
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: Training camp is important, and I think that slowly but surely,

1029
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: he's kind of been building up, uh too. Maybe the

1030
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: best game he had was against the Eagles the last

1031
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: time the Cowboys played, And not only just from a

1032
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: number standpoint, but just seeing how hard he's running, uh,

1033
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: and how he's starting to see things and seeing gaps

1034
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: and and the other thing that helps out. Uh. You

1035
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: know I mentioned the Jets game. You know, you played

1036
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: that game without your starting to offensive tackles. And it's

1037
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: not just any two offensive tackles. Uh. Those guys have

1038
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: been playing awfully, awfully well until Leo Collins and Tyrone

1039
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: Smith were injured. And so I think that's helped out

1040
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: to just kind of getting in rhythm with your offensive line. Uh.

1041
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: And then also incorporating him in the passing game, and

1042
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: and and again. You know, some I saw somebody, uh

1043
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean from us locally, talking about how his touches

1044
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: had gone down this year, that he's not he's not

1045
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: catching as many passes. And it's like, well, yeah, he's

1046
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: not catching as many passes because they've they've got a

1047
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: better receiving corps this year, or Marii Cookers here. From

1048
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: the start of the the season, Randall copp has stepped

1049
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: in and done a nice job, and Michael gal no

1050
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: longer is getting no longer as a rookie. Uh. It

1051
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: makes a difference when the quarterback is not dumping the

1052
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: ball off because he can't get it to any wide

1053
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: receiver who's open. So yeah, the offense when it's when

1054
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: has been pretty much complete when it's not turning the

1055
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: ball over, And that's got him in more trouble this

1056
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: year than anything else in those losses. What's the injury

1057
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: situation tonight? Making all a bunch of couple of guys

1058
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: are questionable? Lee Vandersch looks like not gonna play Anthony Brown.

1059
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: And then you're a bunch of guys that look like

1060
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: they got healthier over the bye. Yeah they did they.

1061
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean when they when they played that the Philadelphia game,

1062
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: they had five guys who either didn't play the previous

1063
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: game or didn't finish the previous game, and all those

1064
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: guys are ready to go. And yeah, the by certainly

1065
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: helped them get Anthony Brown. I think it was was,

1066
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, questionable, and I don't know if he's gonna

1067
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: make it or not. I think Layton vander Ish has

1068
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: been on the wrong side of questionable all the week.

1069
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Who he suffered a stinger in the game against the Eagles,

1070
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: and UM, not sure just how much strength he has

1071
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: in that shoulder. So what they were gonna do is

1072
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: they were going to give him right up to the

1073
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: hour and a half before game time to see, uh

1074
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: if he comes on it comes around or not. And

1075
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, you know, it's Shawn Lee stepping in

1076
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: and starting for him. So I don't know that to

1077
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: drop off. You know, it's I mean, I'm not trying

1078
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: to minimize how good Vandersh is, but when you got

1079
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: a Shawn Lee behind him, who had been playing on

1080
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: the strong side, he can easily move over to the

1081
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: weak side, if that's the way they want to work.

1082
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: And I would imagine UH, with the Giants going mostly

1083
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: three wide receivers, they'll be in nickel and he played

1084
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: the majority of those snaps and nickel UH in that

1085
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: game against the Eagle Eagles once latent vander Ish went out. UH.

1086
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: And then the other injury that they had coming into this,

1087
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: Cameron Fleming, their backup swing offensive tackle, hurt himself in

1088
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: one of the practices during the bye week. If you

1089
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: can believe that strained a cast muscle. And my understanding

1090
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: is he's probably going to be out a couple of weeks,

1091
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: So that leaves Brandon Knight, who made the team as

1092
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: a rookie free agent. UM. And he was a guard

1093
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: when they when they signed him, they I mean a

1094
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: tackle when they signed them, they moved him to guard,

1095
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: and then when they started having injuries on the offensive line,

1096
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: they moved them back to tackles. So he's the backup

1097
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: tonight for uh Tyrnn Smith and Lale Collins. I want

1098
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: to just follow real quick on Vanderschmak. Is there any

1099
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: long term concerns there because coming out of college he

1100
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: has a guy that had some neck problems that people

1101
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: had some red flags on. Yeah, and and that was

1102
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: one thing that they checked out and it all checked

1103
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: out well. So this I don't think this is a

1104
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: reoccurrence of that. Uh. He suffered a stinger. Uh. And

1105
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, you never know how long guys take after

1106
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: they suffer one of those to get the strength back

1107
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: in their shoulder neck area, and was the thing they

1108
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: were most concerned about during the week. So we'll see

1109
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: how that goes. But again, like I said, if he

1110
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: can't make it, at least you have Shawn Lee in

1111
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: there to step in well. Mickey. Both of these teams

1112
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: have anything, it's common. It's the fact that they each

1113
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: added a defensive lineman before they're ready to suit up tonight,

1114
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: the Giants adding Leonard Williams and then of course the

1115
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys Michael Bennet in a trade with the Patriots. He's

1116
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: had some opportunity to get familiar with everything, and he's

1117
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: got some ties to Chris Rochard when they were in

1118
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: Seattle together. But you know, what is your expectation, what

1119
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: is their expectation of how much he's gonna play tonight

1120
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: and what he can do as an extra defensive lineman

1121
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: for that front. Yeah, just step in and let's go, right.

1122
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: And not like the guy has been injured. It's not

1123
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: like he hasn't been practicing except for the I guess

1124
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: the week he got suspended by uh by the Patriots.

1125
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, he should be ready to go. Uh

1126
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: And I think they will use him as a backup

1127
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: defensive end. I think they'll use him is a rotation

1128
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: guy at defensive tackle, uh inside, especially on Nickel's situations.

1129
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And you know we had I heard all

1130
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: these questions earlier in the week about well, you know,

1131
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: how long is it gonna take him to transition transition

1132
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: in and it's like, hey, it's not like this guy

1133
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: just came off his couch, right, you know, I know

1134
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: he didn't play, and he didn't play as many snaps

1135
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: this year so far with the Patriots then he has

1136
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: been playing. So Number one, he should have fresh legs.

1137
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: Number two, if he's coming in in Nickel's situation, and

1138
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean to oversimplify things, but if you're coming

1139
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: in on Nickel and you're on in the middle, it's

1140
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: basically there's the quarterback, go get the quarterback? Difficult can

1141
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: that be? So I think, you know, he should be.

1142
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: I think he should be ready to go. And I

1143
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: think he'll certainly help that pass rush, uh, that the

1144
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys need some help in the middle, uh to give

1145
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: them a push to help out those defensive ends. You know.

1146
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: And I went back and looked, uh, last year when

1147
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: he played the two games with the Eagles against the Giants,

1148
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: and he had he had a couple of pretty good games.

1149
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: As I went back and looked, you know, he had

1150
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: like seven tackles, a couple of sacks, four quarterback hits,

1151
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles for losses of forced bumble. Uh.

1152
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: So I know the quarterbacks different, but the offensive lines

1153
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: basically the same. So yeah, get him out there, let's go.

1154
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: Maby what's been to deal with the pass rush? You

1155
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: know you got Malee Collins is a good player too,

1156
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 1: really good outside Russia's Quinn's been great since he's been there.

1157
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: But just watching I watched I think your last four

1158
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: or five games on on on film heading into this,

1159
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: the consistent pressure and maybe it was the lack of

1160
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: pressure against the Jets that that that's kind of buy

1161
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: sing me a little bit. I I just don't see

1162
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: it as much as I feel like the talent dictates no,

1163
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, and it hasn't and hasn't been there,

1164
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: and you know, let's let's you know, I kind of

1165
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: look at it is okay, uh and we forget again.

1166
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: And I mentioned it earlier about you know, sometimes practice

1167
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: is important. Maybe training camps important. Remember DeMarcus Lawrence didn't

1168
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: do anything in pads until the week of the season opener. Uh.

1169
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: He had the shoulder surgery and it was late, so

1170
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything in the off season. Uh. He

1171
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: never practiced in pads in training camp, didn't play in

1172
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: any preseason games, uh, and then you know they kind

1173
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: of regulated his snaps starting with the first game against

1174
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: the Giants and then with Robert Quinn who has been

1175
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: coming on these last several weeks. You know, he missed

1176
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of the season with that suspension,

1177
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: and early in training camp he broke the bone on

1178
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: the back of his hand, so he missed all the

1179
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: rest of that where and he could have been practicing

1180
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: while he was gonna uh you know, serve that impending

1181
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: two games suspension, but he didn't do anything uh in

1182
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: pads then until the third week of the season. So

1183
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: sometimes that stuff matters. And then then I think the

1184
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: other thing that has really hurt him inside, especially in

1185
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: past rush situations, is they lose Tyron Crawford. And I

1186
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: know he's not the eight pass rusher, but he's a

1187
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: veteran guy that can play defensive end before you can

1188
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: go inside on the nickel, and he was playing and

1189
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: trying to play through uh bad hips hips that now

1190
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: he's going to have a surgery on each one of

1191
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: them to repair him. He's already had one, he's going

1192
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: to have another one in six weeks. So so they

1193
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: just didn't have the rotation inside that was helping with

1194
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: the pass rush. I think their pass rush this past

1195
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: game against the Eagles was the best I think I've

1196
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: seen all season long. Now we're gonna see if it's consistent.

1197
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: But you're exactly right, you know, and shame on them

1198
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: for not getting pressed on Sam Donald. Uh. They allowed

1199
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: him to get comfortable in the pocket, and we saw

1200
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: what he was capable of doing, and then we've seen

1201
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: what's happened to him these last we three games when

1202
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: he hasn't done much. Because the last thing you want

1203
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: young inexperienced quarterbacks is to get comfortable in the pocket.

1204
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: Make sure there you've got pressure on him. And I

1205
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys aren't a big blip It's team, but

1206
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: they should have been blissing the heck out of him,

1207
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: and they let him get comfortable and comfortable enough to

1208
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: throw a ninety two yard touchdown. Class come on, please, well, Mickey,

1209
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like you've been itching to get back to

1210
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium more so than the team. I can go

1211
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: back in and give him the speech, right like you know,

1212
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to. Everybody wanted to come down on Jason

1213
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Garrett's decision to go for fourth and fourth and one

1214
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: at the at the seven yard line. It's like, okay, fine,

1215
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: but if you didn't make it, didn't have to lose

1216
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: the yard, and you didn't tap on the next play

1217
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: give up a ninety two yard touchdown pass. That's part

1218
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: of the decision, right, You're thinking, Okay, if I don't

1219
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: make him, I got him backed up at the eight

1220
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: yard line, seven yard line, whatever it was going to be,

1221
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: and chances are they're gonna punt and we're gonna catch

1222
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: the punt at the fifty yard one. And then in

1223
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: one play you give up a ninety two yard touchdown pass.

1224
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: You know that had as much to that and it

1225
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: was seven teen. So I figured it out that seconds

1226
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: seen basically decide in that ball game that day. Mickey,

1227
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, my friend. Okay, I'll see you tonight.

1228
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: Get stuff. I have a good one. Appreciate it. Mickey Spagnola,

1229
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Excellent job. Is always always good

1230
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: to hear from him. Absolutely know some great stuff. So

1231
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: it sounds like no vander esh which we talked about

1232
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: the fleming and Anthony Brown, seems like a fifty fifty

1233
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: game time decision. Jordan Lewis would play if he doesn't. Yeah,

1234
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean they've had a number of young guys that

1235
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: they've drafted over the last few years as insurance policies,

1236
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: So I don't think that is going to throw a

1237
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: curveball for them. And you know, as he pointed out

1238
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: Mickey in terms of Sean Lee, the security blanket that

1239
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: he serves in the event that late in vander esh

1240
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: is hurt. It's a similar type of rationale as they

1241
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: approached the secondary the same way. Final thoughts, Well, I'm

1242
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: just going to basically rehash what we set off the top.

1243
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: This is going to show us a lot about how

1244
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: far perhaps the Giants have come or perhaps if they're

1245
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: still stuck in the Achilles heel of issues. Got to

1246
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: stop the explosive plays. You've got to protect the football

1247
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: because you can't give a Cowboys team a short field.

1248
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: You do that, John, all bets are off, and you've

1249
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: got to be able to sustain lengthy drives and most important,

1250
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: finish it off with touchdowns. They can accomplish those three things,

1251
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: I think they can make this game very interesting. My

1252
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: final thought because I agree I think we touched on

1253
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff at the top of the show kind

1254
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: of defense, get up the field, prevent big plays. Offensively,

1255
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: you've got to be good on first and second down.

1256
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: I think one of the nugget in because we kind

1257
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: of talk touches briefly on Friday. I know people have asked,

1258
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Leonard Williamson is a free agent, why

1259
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: are you making the deal? Firm given up picks for

1260
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a free agent and the argument that

1261
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: not a lot of people have made. But the more

1262
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: I thought about it, I'll make it now. And this

1263
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: is something that I thought of myself. It seemed like

1264
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: the Jets were pretty dead set on trading him, right,

1265
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: They were gonna look like well or at least move

1266
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: on from him at the end of the season. Right.

1267
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: But but this isn't weren't to my point is that

1268
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: if they were dead set on trading him, and it

1269
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: sounds like they were going to trade him, whoever got

1270
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: him in that trade was going to make sure they

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Speaker 1: were not going to let him walk, which means they

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Speaker 1: were probably likely to franchise tag him if they didn't

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Speaker 1: come out to a long term deal. And once another

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Speaker 1: team has the franchise tag on the player, you can't

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Speaker 1: get to him. So Dave Gentleman's thought it might have been, Look,

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Speaker 1: if they're going to trade him to another team, then

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Speaker 1: that is then going to franchise the guy. If I

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Speaker 1: really want him on my roster, the only way I

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Speaker 1: could get him is by making the trade. So that,

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Speaker 1: to me is the argument that makes sense. And I

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Speaker 1: understand it if you think that guy is so valuable

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Speaker 1: that you have to have him. And I kind of

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Speaker 1: agree with the point where if you don't trade for him,

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Speaker 1: another team will they're gonna franchise tag him. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get him. So I get it. I get it. Well,

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Speaker 1: but I think if the Giants wind up signing him

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Speaker 1: to a long term deal, which seems to be the

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Speaker 1: direction that they're eventually going to head John, doesn't that

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Speaker 1: make this a whole mood point. No, Well, you commit

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Speaker 1: the argument that people would make is that you could

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Speaker 1: have signed to a long term deal without trading picks

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Speaker 1: from and just signed him in the off season as

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Well yeah, assuming though, to your point,

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Speaker 1: that he actually reaches free agency, correct, So I mean

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Speaker 1: there's always that risk involved. It sort of reminds me

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Speaker 1: of I remember having this debate with the Teddy Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: conversation when he was traded, and you know, people were saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could sign him out right at the

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Speaker 1: end of season. But then again, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: was gonna franchise tag Teddy Bridgewater. So the parameters are

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. John, to your point, Leonard Williams

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Speaker 1: coming off a rookie deal a little bit younger, doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the same injury history as a Teddy Bridgewater. That's

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Speaker 1: why every player, in terms of how you approach a

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Speaker 1: trade contract extension, they're all on islands because not everybody

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Speaker 1: is bunched together and you treat them and you have

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Speaker 1: the same approach. Lance, good stuff. Absolutely, make sure you

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Speaker 1: tune in tonight. Our pregame show begins at six forty

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Speaker 1: Lance with the whole sting you have, Jeff Eagels, you

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Speaker 1: have pulled the Tina will be a MetLife Central. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to the game, stop by say hello at

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Speaker 1: the MetLife stage. Then of course Bob pop Acrawl Banks

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Speaker 1: and Howard Cross on the call, Madeline Bark on the

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Speaker 1: sideline as well, I will be in the locker room

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Speaker 1: post game with Lance, Carl and Bob handling duties up

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