1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Here we go. 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: It is a Monday, a very very busy Monday. Half 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: dozen ugly blowouts, but some defining moments with the top 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: players and the top teams. We're live in Chicago. It's 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the Herd one hour from now. Where Colin was right, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Where Colin was wrong, There's a lot of both. 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: Let's start with this. 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: There are certain teams that are good all year, but 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: people that don't the right feel or the right look. 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: They're winning a lot of close games. I think people 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: have finally come to terms with two teams in the NFL, 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: the Bears and the Denver Broncos. You may want to 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: stop doubting the Denver Broncos. This Green Bay defense elite, 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley defensive coordinator elite and Bonnicks and Sean Payton 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: carved up this Green Bay defense. He's athletic, he's clever, 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: he's deceptive. He doesn't get sacked. Sean Payton has been 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: texting me for two years. I got myself a star. 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: The headline here can't just be Packers lose Watson and 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. Yeah, it's awful. Jeff Hafley in the last 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: two years has faced CJ. Stroud, Goff hurts, Matt Stafford. 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Bon Nicks in the last two years is the only 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: quarterback Green Bay's defense has faced that's thrown four touchdown 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: passes two four different wide receivers. So too many people 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I said this last week have just sort of made 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: up their mind on bow Knicks. I think he reminds 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: me of a right handed Steve Young. He is way 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: way more athletic than anybody gives him credit for. Dad 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: was a coach. Never get sacked, Never get sacked. I've 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: said this about Kayleb Williams, doesn't throw many picks. Bo 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Nicks never gets sacked, and since he didn't fit in 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: the NFL, he's twenty two to nine with more touchdown 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: passes in that span than Matt Stafford. 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: Okay, and Sean Payton. 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: And remember this, Bo Knicks in a division with great 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators like Jesse Minter and Steve Spagnola. So Denver 45 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: was down nine in the third quarter and they needed 46 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Bo Nicks, the second year quarterback from Oregon, to be 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: a star. And that's exactly what bow Knicks was. Three 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: long drives, playmaking, rolling left, rolling right, deceptive, big time 49 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: throws up the sideline, great un fourth down again eight 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: for twelve, Throwing downfield. That's always been the knock. Well, 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: I didn't throw the ball down the field did yesterday 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: against arguably the best defense he's faced all year. I 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: don't know what he needs to do to impress people. 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I mean a lot 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: of times it's first impressions and his first month in 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I know he's not the biggest guy, 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: and then the biggest arm his first month, five weeks 58 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Little choppy, get over it. He's really 59 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: really good. Well, he wouldn't be that good without Sean Payton. 60 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: Troy Aigman, wouldn't have been that good without Jimmy Johnson Marino, 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: maybe not that good without Don Shula. I mean, every 62 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: great court. Tom Brady probably wouldn't win all those rings 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: without Belichick early in his career. You got to get 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: over that. 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: The kid is top five and wins top six and 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: total touchdowns and he's third in dropbacks. They're not babysitting. 67 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: This is not Big Ben early years in the NFL 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: whole playbook motions. That's forty throws in a really good 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator division. So the Denver rosters excellent. We know 70 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: that the coach is excellent. The only question has been, well. 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: What do you do with bow Knicks? 72 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, you know he has twenty seven touchdowns. You know 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: who else does? Drake May? In my opinion, Drake May 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: was talked about a week ago as the MVP candidate. 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: Bow Knicks you're not sure about. I don't know what 76 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: I watched yesterday. It's time to be sure. Add this, 77 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: exactly fifty percent of the wins Denver's wins have come 78 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: on a game winning drive from bow Knicks. So I 79 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: don't know how you define that the it quality. He 80 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: is really good when he's got to be really good. 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: And here is Sean Payton on his young quarterback star. 82 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: The thing about him is like. 83 00:04:53,839 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: He loves playing you know, and so that's contagious, and 84 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: that's a really good trait for a player at his position, 85 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: and his teammates feel that. 86 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: For Green Bay, it's just one of those years. 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Kraft gets hurt, Christian Watson, who's been banged up since 88 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: he entered the league, Micah Parsons non contact injury. Green 89 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Bay is still good, but it's hard to lose those 90 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of players two in one afternoon and be playing 91 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: in a conference championship. There's no question good coach, good quarterback. 92 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, yesterday was a game I thought there 93 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what this green Bay has 94 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: been in a lot of games like this, and they 95 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: had a great first half, but Denver and they've done 96 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: this how many times they've done it this year, eight 97 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: or nine where they just start the second half, mid 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: third quarter and they take over games. 99 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: Got to stop doubt in the Broncos, all. 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: Right, Well, Patrick Mahomes torn ACL that's horrible news. A 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: lot of stars got hurt yesterday, But even before that, 102 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: this year didn't feel right for the Chiefs, and the 103 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: year didn't necessarily feel right for Patrick Mahomes yesterday Justin 104 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Herbert was clearly the best quarterback on the field, and 105 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy Reid and Chris Jones and Travis Kelcey 106 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of feels like they all got really old, really fast, 107 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: and it's hard when you draft at the end of rounds. 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: They'll finally, finally draft near the top of a draft, 109 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and that's a big advantage. You can move down if 110 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: you want accumulate other picks. Drafting for years and years 111 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: and years and years at the bottom of rounds is 112 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: really hard, you know. That's why the Rams will go 113 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: out and get a Devonte Adams. You got to go 114 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: sometimes and buy elite players because it's hard to get 115 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: him in the draft. So Kansas City feels a little 116 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: similar to Disney in the Marvel movies. They have had 117 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: a ton of success, but they're trying to they're struggling 118 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: to develop new characters. That's the way I'd put it. 119 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: They just don't have enough elite players. It's don't blame 120 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the coaches. Small Hulk isn't isn't working quite like they thought. 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, here's where Kansas City is as a franchise. 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's eight nine surgeries in and he's their most 123 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: productive pass catcher, and he's got one foot out the 124 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: retirement door. I mean, that's where that's where Kansas City 125 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: is right now. And you start looking at the Rams 126 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: roster and the Eagles roster and and you know, bounce 127 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: around the league Denver's roster, and I said this, the 128 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: reason most dynasties last isn't just because you got a 129 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: great player, a great coach and a great GM. It's 130 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: because your division Nick Saban in the SEC, nobody else 131 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: could get the coach right. The minute Texas came in 132 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: and Kirby Smart went to Georgia Nick Saban and Bama 133 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: didn't look quite as dominant Sean Payton in division, Justin 134 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Herbert in the Jim Harball, Jesse minterter Bo Nicks. It 135 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: just feels different. I mean, Travis Kelcey's thirty six years old, 136 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: nine surgery's in foot through the retirement door, and he's their. 137 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: Most dependable guy. 138 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: And I know it's hard to take away Grandpa's keys 139 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: when he's the only guy in town that's got a ride, right, 140 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna drive everybody around. But it's this is the 141 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: reality of what it is. It's not pretty h And 142 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: I've said this for the last three weeks I've asked 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: every guest rebuild or retool. 144 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: I think it's more of a rebuild. 145 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean their second best player or best players, a center, 146 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: they got a really good corner, Mahomes down surgery. 147 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of a rebuild. 148 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 4: Now. 149 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: The good news is they're getting more draft picks up 150 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: near the top of rounds. I wouldn't be surprised now 151 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: if they some of the older guys maybe take a seat, 152 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: rest a little bit, catch their breath, if you know 153 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. Wink wink, nudge, nudge, and they keep 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: that draft pick moving up. 155 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: That's what they need. That's what it feels like. 156 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, it hasn't felt right the last 157 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: three seasons. They're sixteenth in scoring and seventeenth in yards 158 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: per play. This has been happening for years. But the 159 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: coaching was so good, the Homes was so special that 160 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: it kind of is like even though even Vegas doesn't 161 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: know what to do with him. Yesterday they were a 162 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite. Chargers were the better 163 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: team with the better quarterback, And here is Chris Jones 164 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: finding out after the game they're out of the playoff race. 165 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: We're all competitors here, especially me, you know, especially with 166 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 5: so much as state, it was tough. I think the 167 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 5: score was thirteen and thirteen, thirteen and ten. So still 168 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 5: have a fighting chance? Are we out of the playoffs? 169 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: We are? Okay. 170 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: You kind of knew when they let Joe Tooney Go 171 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: couldn't afford and went to the Bear's been great and 172 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: they had to rely on a rookie left tackle, it was. 173 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: Going to be bumpy. 174 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: But going back to what I said about the reason, 175 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, like Brady dominates his division because the Jets 176 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: were a circus, the Bills were a circus, and the 177 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Dolphins were never great. Well, Josh Allen arrives in the division, 178 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't look the same. So mahomes this year for 179 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: three against the Chargers. 180 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: In Denver, Oh for three. It's a whole different ballgame. 181 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Like I said, you get the great coach Kirby Smartin 182 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: now goes to Georgia. Oh, here comes Texas, Texas A 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: and M's got big money. It just feels Lebron dominated 184 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: the East for years because it mostly stunk out West. 185 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't quite feel the same. 186 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: So I think if I was Kansas City, I'd give 187 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: the old guys a day off, I'd try to secure 188 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: that top seven to eight pick rebuild quickly. Right now, 189 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City at eleven rams have the Atlanta pick. That 190 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: almost seems unfair. They're ten with their stack roster. But 191 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: this thing is, we've been kind of convincing ourselves. Even 192 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: the guys in the deadert Desert Vegas been convincing themselves. 193 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're not that far off. I think it's 194 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: more of a rebuild than people think. J Mack. You 195 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: were right on that from the very beginning. I had 196 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: them as a wild card team. You didn't think they 197 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: were a playoff team. But I thought yesterday a great 198 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: example of before the injury, Herbert was out playing Mahomes 199 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: and that's what backup left tackles. 200 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: So it's just a reality. This dynasty thing is really 201 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: really hard. 202 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, they had a great run and it's over. And 203 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 6: I think the real question, Colin is and I think 204 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 6: you alluded to it. Okay, so you got a bunch 205 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 6: of old guys. Let's say Kelsey retires and they move off, 206 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 6: Chris Jones, what about Andy Reid? Is he sticking around 207 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 6: for a long rebuild? Because this is probably not like you. 208 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: Said last week. Hey, we got a little touch ups 209 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 3: here and there. 210 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 6: They've got like half the rosters probably getting turned over. 211 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: If you look at their salary cap, calling, it's not pretty. 212 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, next year, I think they have the I think 213 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: they're second most over the cap of any team. Now 214 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: you can readjust stuff. You know, you do what you 215 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: can to manipulate the cap in the NFL, but this happens. 216 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: And that's why it's always been a marvel that Brady 217 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: and Belichick went twenty years and kept winning the division. 218 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: But a lot of that was, let's be fair, they 219 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: move Peyton, Manning and the Colts out of that division, 220 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: right the Colts were could have been in that division 221 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: for years. Tom would not have dominated to that level. 222 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on him when you have 223 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: dynasties at last. For remember, the Seahawk dynasty felt. 224 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 3: Like oh, oh ex Co. 225 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Well, then Harbaugh moved into the division, and all of 226 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, oh, Seattle and San Francisco, it's 227 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: all the Fraser middle of the ring, like these are 228 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: two heavyweights. So I just think everybody keeps saying, retool 229 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: right down their top seven players, then go right down 230 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: the rams Eagles, Ravens. You start Ronkos, Broncos, Lions, their 231 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: top seven players. 232 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: You got Pro Bowlers at seven. Yeah. 233 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 6: By the way, quick Fix, I saw Kyle Pitts on 234 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 6: Thursday night, absolutely dominate right. You know he's a potential 235 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 6: free agent and he has not had a great run 236 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 6: in Atlanta. 237 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: It's take it over for Travis Kelce. 238 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: There's one. 239 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: There's a freebie for your Chiefs. 240 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Go get him. 241 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: Go get them off one great Thursday game. 242 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: I think I'll save my money. 243 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 244 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 245 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 246 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: Hey is Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now. 247 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 7: In addition to hearing us live weekdays from five to 248 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 7: seven pm Eastern two to fourth Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 249 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 7: We're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for 250 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 7: the show. 251 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: Yup, that's right. 252 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 7: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 253 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 7: every day. 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Second half yesterday 263 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: banged up O line sort of proved it. Well, we 264 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: do it every Monday at this time. We take swings. 265 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm wrong often, and here we go where Colin was right. 266 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: I said all off season and I've said for the 267 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: last month. I think the Chiefs are in a rebuild, 268 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: not just a retool next year. They're forty four million 269 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: over the cap. They got shut out in the second half. 270 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco was their leading rusher at twenty one yards. 271 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're talented enough. I think they need 272 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: to address the O line, the D line, the running 273 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: back room, the tight end room. I had them as 274 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: a wildcard team, and yeah they've had some close losses, 275 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: but there was no question watching yesterday day this is 276 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: not a team that's just you know, a player or two. 277 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: Away where Colin was wrong. 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, I've always said Dan Campbell builds a great culture. 279 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't consider him a scheme guy. But since he's 280 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: taken over the play calling, he's been great. Detroit's number 281 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: two in total offense, number one in yards per play. 282 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: He is unlocked Jamison Williams. 283 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: He's done a great job. 284 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is a much better coach calling plays than 285 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: I would have imagined. That offense is not the problem. 286 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: Brian Branch. Losing him in the back end at really 287 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: hurts because you got to win some shootouts in the 288 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: NFC the way the quarterbacks are developing. But I've been 289 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: a little hard on Dan Campbell. I think he's done 290 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: a great job taking over play. 291 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: Home where Colin was right. 292 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: All my concerns with Brian Schottenheimer have surfaced. With extra 293 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: time to prepare, that offensive performance two for twelve on 294 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: third down just not good enough. 295 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: Six seven and one. 296 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: They're now a bad red zone team, eighteenth in the league. 297 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: And again that's with DAK that's with a run game, 298 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: that's with elite wide receivers. They're just not a consistent team. 299 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: I do think the future is brighter than many believe, 300 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: but all the things we worried about getting out coast 301 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: in big spots, situationally, being mid they've all surfaced. 302 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: Where Colin was wrong. 303 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: I was okay with Pete Carroll being hired with the Raiders. 304 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: I thought he would steady the ship. It's been a disaster. 305 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: He's lost his fastball seventy five total yards against Philadelphia. 306 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Come on, that's brutal. So his last couple of years 307 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: in Seattle, it didn't feel like he was current. I 308 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: don't know what the Raiders do well. They are the 309 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL, and there's nothing you can 310 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: point to outside of Max Crosby and Brock. 311 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: Powers that you like. 312 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, my guy bo Nicks outplayed Jordan 313 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Love four tuddies, four different receivers, four for four in 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: the red zone. 315 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Listen. 316 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: I said it when he was at Oregon. I watched 317 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: them live twice. Super athletic. Got a Steve Young quality, 318 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: hard to get your arms around, never get sacked, very creative, 319 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: very deceptive. Not a great deep ball thrower, though he 320 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: was eight for twelve yesterday downfield. 321 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: Where Colin was wrong, Well. 322 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: The Jags are a franchise I never trust, but they've 323 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: won five straight. You can't run on them. Number one 324 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: run defense. Trevor Lawrence in the last several weeks, ten touchdowns, 325 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: no picks in three games. And they're doing that without 326 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, their star rookie. So I mean, Trevor Lawrence 327 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: has always had talent. The Jags have always had talent. 328 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: But Liam Collen. They got him, an offensive guy who 329 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: had some great moments with Baker Mayfield Jackson. Bill has 330 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: drafted at the top of rounds for a long time. 331 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: There's no question they've got talent, and now it's all 332 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: coming together. Where Colin was right, I said Friday, is 333 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: it possible Philip Rivers will be fine? He was never 334 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: athletic anyway. I mean I watched Kirk Cousins last Thursday. 335 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: He was money. 336 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: My prediction was he never relied on athleticism. Seattle's going 337 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: to have a conservative game plan. It's very possible he's okay. 338 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. His arm didn't have a ton of juice. 339 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: But I thought Steichen with the screens underneath stuff, that 340 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: a great job calling the game. 341 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: And overall, when you. 342 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: Don't rely on athleticism, it makes it easier as you age. 343 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: Where Colin was right. CJ. 344 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Stroud, I keep hearing wow sophomore slump. Listen, dude throws 345 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: one of the prettiest balls in the league. If you 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: give him a little time, he's money. I will defend CJ. Stroud. 347 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: He wants to throw from the pocket. He's good enough 348 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: move being Nico Collinson. He's got his number one receiver 349 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: in the last since week four, thirteen touchdowns, three picks, 350 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: with a very inconsistent run game. 351 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: They've been you know, hit and miss. They've had injuries 352 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: around him. 353 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 8: C J. 354 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: Stroud, I'll defend him. That's a franchise quarterback. He'll run 355 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: if he has to. But he's developed a really keen 356 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: sense of the pocket. Where Colin was right, where Colin 357 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: was wrong, and with that Albert Breer cover in the. 358 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 3: NFL since two thousand and five. 359 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: You know it's funny. Sean Payton text me the last 360 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: two years. He said, you guys can pay attention to 361 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks. 362 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: They're fine. 363 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: He goes, I've got a really, really good quarterback. I 364 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: thought last yesterday was a moment where you could no 365 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: longer deny he's a special player. He's a special player, 366 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: and you can't deny it. 367 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: Is that fair? Yeah, I mean he wasn't perfect. 368 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 8: There were a couple of I think opportunities the Packers 369 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 8: to create turnovers. 370 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: But I think part of that is the. 371 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 8: Bronco is becoming more comfortable in taking the leash off 372 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 8: of Bonnicks and letting him go out there and be 373 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 8: a little bit more of a playmaker. And to me, 374 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 8: it was the downfield throws over and over and over 375 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 8: again yesterday where they were able to get a really 376 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 8: good Packers defense, And there was one in particular Colin 377 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 8: that I think reflected Sean Payton's level of trust in 378 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 8: his quarterback. Fourth and two, nine minutes left, and the 379 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 8: Broncos are up by a point. If they don't pick 380 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 8: that up, the complexion of the entire game changes, And 381 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 8: you would think with a second year quarterback in that spot, 382 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 8: maybe you run the ball, maybe you run a little 383 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 8: flat router, you roll them out and give them the 384 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 8: option to run or throw. Instead, Sean Payton drops bone 385 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 8: knicks back and takes a. 386 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: Shot down field to Courtland Sutton. 387 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 8: BONNICKX hits that the Broncos wind up scoring a touchdown 388 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 8: that gives them a separation they need. To me and 389 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 8: that spot on fourth and two. Sean Payton's confidence to 390 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 8: put the ball in boon Nix's hands, but potentially home 391 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 8: field advantage throughout the playoffs on the line, I think. 392 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: Tells you a lot about where they are right now. 393 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 8: Just as far as the progression of Bonnix's growth and 394 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 8: they're trust in him, and the Broncos now look like 395 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 8: I mean again, two more wins and the AFC road 396 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 8: goes through Denver. That's a very difficult place to play. 397 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, the Broncos have a lot of 398 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 8: things going right now, and the quarterback is very clearly 399 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 8: a big part of it. 400 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, even Belichick and Brady didn't want to go to Denver. 401 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: It's just a tough place to play with the altitude. 402 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: So I'm watching, you know, I said, it's hard to 403 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: develop a quarterback and win games simultaneously. That's what Ben 404 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Johnson's done. There was a time in week three or 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: four I sat on the air you could watch Ben 406 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Johnson's body language. I think he's the best first time 407 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: hire since Sean McVay. Let's go back to like week 408 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: three and four in your sourcing where it was a 409 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: little choppy early. Ben was getting frustrated at conferences, we 410 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: forget that right. 411 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: They I'm gonna put this delicately. 412 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 8: They didn't teach him how to play quarterback, Like that's 413 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 8: really what it was, you know, And like they felt 414 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 8: like we had to figure out, like how much we 415 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 8: can throw onto this kid, how much this kid can handle, 416 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 8: because they felt like he was smart and he had 417 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 8: the aptitude to do it. But they got a player 418 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 8: who they felt like was really raw. And one thing 419 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 8: I really respect about the way Ben handled this colin 420 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 8: was going back to this summer, and I think you 421 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 8: and I talked about it a bunch, right, like where 422 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 8: they were feeding him through a fire hose, and Ben 423 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 8: didn't really care if it didn't look good in the summer. 424 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 8: It was we're going to overload him with information now 425 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 8: and then we'll scale it back as we build the 426 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 8: offense and we'll lean into what he's good at, and 427 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 8: then we'll build him back. 428 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: Up from there. 429 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 8: And there are a lot of coaches, I think, in 430 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 8: their first training camp in a new place that would 431 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 8: be afraid to do something like that, right, especially in 432 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 8: a market like Chicago where a player's performance and practice 433 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 8: is going to be digest in a different way on 434 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 8: a day to day basis. Ben didn't care. Ben thought 435 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 8: Caleb could handle it. And I think what you're seeing now, 436 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 8: and then I just went back and looked at a 437 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 8: bunch of that game against the Browns yesterday, he's. 438 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: Calm in the pocket. 439 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 8: There was a play in the first quarter he made 440 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 8: where he sat back there, looked at his first raad, 441 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 8: looked at his second rate, let Luther Burden come open 442 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 8: over the middle and just delivered a dart And it 443 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 8: was just one of those plays where you see how 444 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 8: calm and cool he was in the pocket where he 445 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 8: wouldn't have made that throw two months ago. And again, 446 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 8: it's like a little thing that you don't notice if 447 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 8: you're not looking for it, but it's happening over and 448 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 8: over and over again. And so I think through playing 449 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 8: good defensive football, through building a really really difficult to 450 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 8: deal with run game, they've bought Caleb Williams time to develop. 451 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 8: And now you're seeing the approach that they took with 452 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 8: Caleb Williams over the summer started to pay off, and 453 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 8: that Caleb has seen a lot now both in practicing 454 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 8: in games and is benefiting from it, and how calm 455 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 8: he looks back there. 456 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: So I will stand by this and die on this hill. 457 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: I love Brett Veach, but I said it earlier. It's 458 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City is like Marvel Comics. They're trying to develop 459 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: new characters and they're struggling. 460 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: They're like Jones and Mahomes and and Travis Kelsey and 461 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: it's like true keep going back to Iron Man, right, Yeah. 462 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: It's like they're trying to develop new guys and they 463 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: can't trust for she Rice and Worth, these more vogantic 464 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: guy and I kind of look at him. I think 465 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: it's a bit more of a rebuild and a retool. 466 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the rams eighth, ninth best player. It 467 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: could be Nate Lanman. 468 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: I look at their fourth best and it's Travis Kelcey. 469 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: You may retire. I watched yesterday. Herbert was better than Mahomes. 470 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: I think I think the Chargers have more elite players. 471 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: What are you on their future in Kansas City? 472 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: You know, we always make. 473 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 8: The parallel to Brady, right because of like the heights 474 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 8: that Mahomes reached early in his career, and I sort 475 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 8: of think that you can learn some stuff from what 476 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 8: happened when Brady tours acl which, by the way, like 477 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 8: interestingly enough, was almost at the same juncture of Brady's 478 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 8: careers has happened with Mahomes now look back right, So 479 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 8: two thousand and eight, Brady goes down, Matt Castle wins 480 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 8: eleven games. 481 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: That causes the. 482 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 8: Patriots to say, Okay, we're going to lean in and 483 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 8: try to win with this aging roster one more time. 484 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't work in two thousand and nine. 485 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 8: Then the beginning of twenty ten, Belichick goes in and 486 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 8: literally tears all sorts of evidence of any championship football 487 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 8: off the walls and says, we're starting over again. And 488 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 8: then they really got on a heater from a draft perspective, 489 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 8: right that draft in twenty ten, Devin mccorty, Rob Gronkowski, 490 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 8: Aaron Hernandez to get Date Solder of the left tackle 491 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 8: of the year after that, the year after that, Chandler Jones, 492 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 8: Dante high Tower, and they're often running And so I 493 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 8: think that's sort of the juncture the Chiefs are at 494 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 8: now where this is going to give them an organic 495 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 8: opportunity to look big picture at where at right we'll 496 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 8: see the extent of the ligament damage beyond just the 497 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 8: ACL and what that means for pat in twenty twenty six. 498 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 8: But I think it's incumbent on the Chiefs now to 499 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 8: look at it and say, this isn't just about twenty six, 500 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 8: this is about twenty seven and moving forward and the 501 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 8: next iteration of the Chiefs, And so, where does George 502 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 8: Karloftus fit into that? 503 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: Where does Nick Bolton fit into that? Where does Trent 504 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: McDuffie fit into that? 505 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 8: Those guys are going to be kind of the veteran 506 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 8: players on the next iteration? Right, how do we put 507 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 8: ourselves in position to draft really well over the next 508 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 8: few years? And when do we separate from Travis kelcey 509 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 8: and Chris Jones Because at this point you're looking at 510 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 8: it and saying. 511 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: Well, if Mahomes is only out. 512 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 8: There for half the twenty six sies and or three 513 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 8: quarters of the twenty six season, do we want to 514 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 8: have the older guys around. So there are all of 515 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 8: these big picture questions. I think that the Chiefs probably 516 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 8: had to answer anyway that now they're organically going to 517 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 8: be faced with because of the injury their quarterback has. 518 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 8: So again, I think this actually provides an opportunity for them, 519 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 8: the same way maybe Brady's acl injury gave the Patriots 520 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 8: some clarity, and really I think served as the first 521 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 8: step towards them building the second second version of their dynasty. 522 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: So listen, Josh Allen is fourn oh this year when 523 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: he has to score thirty points, when they score thirty 524 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: their four oh because he has to. And yesterday another example, 525 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: he goes into the phone booth, comes out with a cape, 526 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: saves the citizens of Buffalo. Like, I've seen this, I 527 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: want to see it in the playoffs. I just look 528 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: at him and I think to myself, this is not 529 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: a conference championship team. They don't have the defense of Houston, 530 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: don't you know. I don't think they have the coaching 531 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: of New England. I thought it was a great win 532 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: for them, but New England still, let's be honest, they're 533 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: kind of yeah, a little bit of a rebuild, and 534 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: they don't have the depth on the O line right 535 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: now that if they're missing a starter, their backups just 536 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: aren't aren't going to be great in those spots. So 537 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: I looked at it yesterday and everybody's like, oh, big 538 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: win for Buffalo. That doesn't look like a defense that 539 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: can end up in a conference championship. 540 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: And I listen. 541 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: It's not Cincinnati where I felt Joe Burrow almost feels 542 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: like nobody's here to help me. But you can only 543 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: ask Josh Allen to be John Elway plus plus plus 544 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: so many times before the star quarterback says I need 545 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: a new guy. 546 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. 547 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 8: I think there's a psychological element though to what Josh 548 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 8: Allen has done to that Buffalo team. He's the best 549 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 8: player in the league right now, right so I think 550 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 8: he provides you at a certain level of belief that 551 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 8: allows you to fix things as the game goes on. 552 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 8: Does that make sense to like, Like, I look at it, 553 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 8: and I have some of. 554 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: The numbers written down here. 555 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 8: The Patriots rush for one hundred and seventy seven yards 556 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 8: in the first half. 557 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: In the second half, they rush for just. 558 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 8: Sixty nine and sixty five of those yards were on 559 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 8: one place. Drake may only through for forty seven yards 560 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 8: in the second half. The Bills were able to run 561 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 8: the ball more effectively in the second half. Why does 562 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 8: that happen, Well, it's because they aren't panicking when they're 563 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 8: down twenty one to nothing because they have the best 564 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 8: player in the planet, and it gives the coaches and 565 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 8: the players the leeway to fix things on the fly, 566 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 8: which I think has really empowered them and almost become 567 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 8: the identity of the team. And like, look like you 568 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 8: look at the last five weeks, right, four wins in 569 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 8: the last five weeks. They played against the Bucks that 570 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 8: came from behind, finished on a twenty three to six run. 571 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: Steelers they fell behind, finished on twenty three to nothing run. 572 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 8: Against the Bengals. Last week they fell behind, they finished 573 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 8: on twenty one to six run. And then yesterday against 574 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 8: the Patriots in a raucous environment, Patriots are ready to 575 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 8: take the AFC East from go up twenty one to nothing. 576 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: They finished that game on a thirty five to seven run. 577 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 8: It's sort of become who the Bills are and they 578 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 8: are going to get some pieces back. And that's what's 579 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 8: interesting about this. At Oliver could come back in the 580 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 8: playoffs best defensive player. They haven't had him for most 581 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 8: of the year. Jerrel Bernard going to be back at 582 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 8: linebacker on offense, Does Brandon Cooks get a little bit 583 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 8: more comfortable Dalton Kincaid's healthy. Now, I'm with you, Like, 584 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 8: I'm not sure they're good enough right now to run 585 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 8: the table in the playoffs and win it all. But 586 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 8: I think this is a team that's getting better, and 587 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 8: I think Allen's allowed them and bought them time to 588 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 8: get better. And so this may look like a different 589 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 8: team five or six weeks from now than it does now, 590 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 8: because I think it looks like a different team now 591 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 8: than it did a month ago. 592 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: By the way, nine field goals, it's the most entertaining 593 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: nine field goal game, I would say in league history. 594 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: I could not take my eyes off of Philip Rivers. 595 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: I know, I said last week I watched You're. 596 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: Carrying the flag for all of us out there, Colin. 597 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you plan for the rest of the year. 598 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: They're not, you know, they're obviously Houston and Jacksonville are 599 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: in a different space right now. This is the final 600 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers run right there. This is just really fun. 601 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: It's eye candy. It's a great time. But in a 602 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: few weeks it'll be over right. 603 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think so. 604 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 8: I mean, like what I like about this story more 605 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 8: than anything else. I think it's happening for really pure reasons. 606 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 8: There's no ulterior motive here. This is you know, Philip 607 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 8: actually retired five years ago because he wanted to coach 608 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 8: his son, and his dad coached him, and he wanted 609 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 8: to coach his son, and his son was getting close 610 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 8: to high school agents, so he wanted to go and coach. 611 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 8: And the reason that this opportunity made sense for him 612 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 8: is actually because his high school season was over, you know, 613 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 8: and so he had always over the last couple of years, 614 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 8: kept it in his head that if this ever happened, 615 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 8: like and remember if you go back years and years 616 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 8: and years ago, you remember this happened with Josh McCown 617 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 8: and the Bears, I. 618 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: Think in like twenty thirteen or something. 619 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 8: And he always had in his head like, if one 620 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 8: of two teams calls, I've got to listen, the Chargers 621 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 8: and the Colts, right like, if one of two teams calls, like, 622 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 8: I want to at least be in shape where I 623 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 8: can think about this sort of thing. And so he 624 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 8: kept he kept throwing, you know, he kept himself young 625 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 8: by being around the high school kids and working with 626 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 8: some of the young kids getting ready for the draft. 627 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 8: Riley Leonard was one of the kids he worked with 628 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 8: last year. Actually, Bo Nicks and Drake May the year 629 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 8: before that, And I just think it's a really good 630 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 8: story from that for that reason, and man, like, you know, 631 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 8: you think about the long field goals in this one, right, 632 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 8: a sixty yarder and a fifty six yarder, which is 633 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 8: another topic for another day, and how a game has 634 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 8: won that way, but if that sixty yarder stands up 635 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 8: as the game winner, We're all talking about the back 636 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 8: shoulder throw that he made to Alec Pierce at the 637 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 8: end of that game put them in field goal range, 638 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 8: which to me, like, that's a rhythm throw, that's a 639 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 8: timing throw. How crazy is it, Colin that this guy, 640 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 8: after a five year layoff layoff is able to make 641 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 8: that throw in a high leverage situation against one of 642 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 8: the like what I think is one of the three 643 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 8: or four best best teams in the league. 644 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: It's a really remarkable story, and I hope. 645 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 8: Everybody can just take it for that, you know what 646 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 8: I mean, Like, I hope everybody can just take this 647 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 8: as a good story about a guy who loves football 648 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 8: that much, who is coaching his kid who seasoned ended 649 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 8: and now you know, one of his best friends in 650 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 8: all of football calls him because they have a catastrophic 651 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 8: quarterback injury situation. He steps in and he's able to 652 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 8: play another month of football. I think it's it's a 653 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 8: really good story no matter how it turns out. But yeah, 654 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 8: I'd say this is probably it for him. I'd be 655 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 8: surprised if he were back in any capacity next year. 656 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: Finally, Dolphins tonight, so they got from their GM. And 657 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I think I've always said Albert I don't like interim coaches. 658 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: They go on a winning streak and suddenly everybody's like, 659 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: let's give him the job. It's like, no, keep Mike 660 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: McDaniel in. He's a good guy, he's a clever offensive guy. 661 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: They've gone on a winning streak, they've played well. 662 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: In cold football. 663 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: If they beat Pittsburgh tonight and win all but maybe 664 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: one of their remaining games, is there a chance? Is 665 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: that because now they're physical that was always the knock, 666 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: they're running the ball? Yeah, can Mike? Can he save 667 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: his job? 668 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? 669 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 8: And like you know, it's actually interesting when you go 670 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 8: back to Halloween when they fired their longtime general manager, 671 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 8: Chris Career. The question I asked was what's the barometer 672 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 8: now for Mike McDaniel, And I think what the front 673 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 8: office wanted to see was like, is this team locked in? 674 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 8: Does he still have control of the locker room, because 675 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 8: that was the biggest question right like early in the season, 676 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 8: it was is his coaching style still working? 677 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 3: Does he still have command of the locker room? 678 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 8: And you know, I think if you look at what 679 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 8: Mike did, is he leaned even further into who he 680 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 8: is as a coach. 681 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: They're running the ball really really well. 682 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 8: Like you said, they're more physical now, they've taken the 683 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 8: ball out of to his hands to some degree, and 684 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 8: I think it's just Mike saying screw it, like I'm 685 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 8: going to do what I believe is best for this 686 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 8: football team to win games on a week two week 687 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 8: basis based on how we're built right now with no 688 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill, with a quarterback who's somewhat limited. And I 689 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 8: think what you've seen now is like a real look 690 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 8: at how Mike was able to reel all this in 691 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 8: even with a different personality and put the team in 692 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 8: position to win. And it's actually interesting if you go 693 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 8: back to when this first happened again, like one of 694 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 8: the things that thing I heard about him having control 695 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 8: a locker room, well, one of the things that kept 696 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 8: Steve Ross from pulling the plug on McDaniel back then 697 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 8: was he kept hearing from people. This guy's going to 698 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 8: be a great head coach in his second when he 699 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 8: gets his second chance. And I think Ross sort of 700 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 8: thought to himself, well, why would we fire him? 701 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: Then? 702 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 8: Why don't we give him a second chance now and 703 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 8: see how he does? And so I think giving him 704 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 8: that opportunity has given him some new life. 705 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 3: And my guess would be, this is just a guess. 706 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 8: My guess would be they hire a new general manager, 707 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 8: they pair him with their cap guy who now is. 708 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: In a little bit of an elevator role in Brandon Shore. 709 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 8: And then Mike McDaniel goes into twenty twenty six under evaluation, and. 710 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: Let's see what you got Tua. 711 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 8: That's the twenty six is the last year of guaranteed 712 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 8: money in his contract, so they aren't married to Tua 713 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 8: beyond twenty twenty six, and it kind of gives them 714 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 8: a new general manager a chance to come in work 715 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 8: with Brendan Shore again, a guy who's very close ownership there, 716 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 8: work under the president, Tom Garfinkel, and with Ross and 717 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 8: his son in law, and you get to see now 718 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 8: what a new setup looks like and how Mike McDaniel 719 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 8: fits into it. 720 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: You go forward from there and. 721 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 8: I think you got to give Ross some credit here, 722 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 8: having patients with McDaniel when he got rid of the 723 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 8: general manager certainly seems to have paid. 724 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: Off Albert Breer on a Monday, Monday morning quarterback. Thanks Albert, 725 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: as olas all right, Thanks Colin