1 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Now I have a new episode coming for you Tuesday, 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: same bat time, same bat channel. But I thought I 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: would just give this little bonus episode given the current 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: news being that of Elon Musk has become the world's 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: first trillionaire. Now two things. First of all, one cannot 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: become an ethical billionaire. So being a trillionaire must be 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: like extra unethical because there is no way that you 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: can consistently pay workers a loving wage, and that I 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: mean like a proper living wage, depending on the location 10 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: that they are living in, like what would make them comfortable, 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, living wage. Now, you can't do that and 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: become a millionaire, billionaire, trillionaire, you know. And the thing 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: is as well, the trillionaires exist, or he exists, because 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: companies are not doing what they're supposed to do, which 15 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: is pay their fucking tax. Okay, you're supposed to pay 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: your tax. That's how it is for everybody. So Elon 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Musk has managed to build businesses like there was Oh 18 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: there's a quote from his dad. I think I mentioned 19 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: it in this this episode actually, where his dad talks about, oh, 20 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, he started with nothing. He just took some 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: of my emeralds from our emerald mind and sold them. 22 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: And it's like that's that feels like one theft of 23 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the company in two doesn't feel like somebody started with nothing, 24 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: you know. And so this whole thing about becoming a 25 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: trillionaire is the second part I wanted to talk about. 26 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Is that's not real money. It's it's just jenga. You're 27 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: just moving the blocks, right. So the man does not 28 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: have a trillion dollars in his bank account. Also, he's 29 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: an legal immigrant, you know that. Like, I just I 30 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: just want to point it out. I'm just pointing it out, 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: like so gave her someone off for the others. I'm 32 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just mentioning it. But with him 33 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: being in the news, I thought, well, why not talk 34 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: about his grandfather and all the stuff he wasn't it? 35 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: And that without further ado enjoy it. Joshua N. Haldeman, 36 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Elon Musks apartheid loving grandfather. Good day to you, sir, 37 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Good day. And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, 38 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Katie quit your Jabba jaba in fact me, in fact 39 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: you I will. But first we've got to get our 40 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: source on. Our sources are Elon Musk's anti semitic Apartheid 41 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Loving grand Father by Joshua Benton, Social Discredit, Antisemitism, social 42 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: credit and the Jewish Response by Janine Stingle. The World 43 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: according to Elon Musk's Grandfather by Jill Lapore, Joshua N. Haldeman, 44 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: d C. The Canadian Years nineteen twenty six to nineteen 45 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: fifty by Scott Haldeman and Joseph C. Keating, How the 46 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: roots of the Papal Mafia extend to apartheid South Africa 47 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: by Chris mcgreel, The International Conspiracy to establish a world 48 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa by Joshua N. Haldeman. 49 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: And of course we have our old favourites, history dot 50 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: com and biography dot com. iOS It in comfortably good. 51 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Then let's begin. We are currently in February at time 52 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: of recording, which for those of you who don't know, 53 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: over in like UK and Ireland, it is LGBTQ History Month, 54 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: but over in the States and Canada also I believe 55 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: it is Black History Month. And because my listeners are 56 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: fairly global, like you'll are all over the place. That 57 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: being said, Hello, whoever listens to me in Trinidad and Tobago, 58 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: because I know you listen and you always have me 59 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: in the charts, so you're great. Don't know who I 60 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: was listening to me there, but hey, hope you're having 61 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: a good time. And I thought, well, why not start 62 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: off Black History Month? But talking about a big dudty racist, 63 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I thought that is a good start to the month. Also, 64 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: as a white woman, it is not for me to 65 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: encroach in spaces where I do not belong. So if 66 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for black history by a black historian, Redacted 67 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: History is a fab podcast you should listen to. He's amazing. Okay, 68 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: that being said, As a white woman who is entering 69 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: her fuck about and find out era I can bellow 70 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: and scream about the terrible actions performed by other white people. 71 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I will be out carroning the Karens and I hope 72 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: you're here for it. So naturally, with the current political 73 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: climate going on and the man who went from space 74 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: race to space racist super quick to anyone not paying attention, 75 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I thought, why not go back into this history a 76 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: wee bit and maybe have a weight discussion and tell 77 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: you all about Elon Musk's apartheid loving grandfather. You could 78 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: be forgiven for assuming that our story would start in 79 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: South Africa, because that's all we hear, you know, family 80 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: from South Africa. But our story actually starts in a 81 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: log cabin in Minnesota on the twenty fifth of November 82 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: nineteen two. Elon Musk's maternal grandfather, Joshua and Norman Haldman, 83 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: was born in a log cabin in Peacot Lake, Minnesota. 84 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: He was the only son of John Elon Haldeman that's 85 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: where the Elon name comes from, and Almida May Haldeman. 86 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Joshua, when he was only two years old, 87 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: his father, John was diagnosed with diabetes, which at the 88 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: time was a death sentence because back in nineteen oh two, 89 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: insulin was not an option. I don't even think it 90 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: became like a fully fledged diabetic treatment until like the 91 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, and like, up until then, you basically had 92 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: two arguing sides about how to treat diabetries. Like it 93 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: was a death sentence. You were not going to survive 94 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: very long, and you kind of ended up in two 95 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: camps and they were both sort of diatry. It was 96 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: maintained with diet, and there were still some forms of 97 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: diabetes which are mainly controlled by diet. But back in 98 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: the day, it was mainly controlled with extreme diet, and 99 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: because it's the past, opiates lots and lots of ol piates. 100 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, people were always taking like 101 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: cocaine and heroin, and for this it was morphine. Morphine 102 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: was the drug of choice, and it really either made 103 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: you like over eight and then die or then not 104 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: really eat enough and then die. Like back in the day, 105 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: it was fairly common for people with diabetes to just 106 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: starve to death, like they would just starve, and diabetes 107 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: is one of those conditions that for a very very 108 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: long time people just didn't understand what was happening with it, 109 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: like they didn't grasp it specifically. And maybe I should 110 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: do an episode specifically on diseases like little bonus ones 111 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: on the Patreon maybe, but that's for another day. We'll 112 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: talk about that another time. Back to this sidebar, people 113 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: often died within months of being diagnosed, and what the 114 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: doctors were suggesting. John's wife wasn't feeling. She wasn't really 115 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: into it, and she kind of wasn't too into the 116 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: whole traditional medicine scenario, especially living in rural Minnesota, and 117 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: like didn't want to see her husband suffer. So Almida 118 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Jane Haldeman. I called her May earlier, but Almida Jane Haldeman, 119 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: she was like, we're getting the heck at a dodge. 120 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: She is just not feeling traditional medicine at all. She says, 121 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers and goes to 122 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: chiropractic school in Minneapolis. She gets her Doctorate of Chiropractic 123 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: certificate in like a couple of months, which, I mean, 124 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: we've all spoken about how in the Victorian era it 125 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: took a very short time to become a medical professional. 126 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: So I feel like this is part of the par or, 127 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: like it's the nineteen hundreds. We're good, you know. And 128 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: so she's like, great, let's get out of here, and 129 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: they move up to Saskatchewan in Canada, where Amilda Haldeman 130 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: became the very first, the actual first chiropractor in all 131 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: of Canada, like the first Canadian chiropractor, like not even 132 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: first female chiropractor, like she was the very first one 133 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: at all. Which you know what, Amida that I say, 134 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: hats off to you, because that's pretty cool. Granted, at 135 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: the time, in chiropractic practices, well very much alternative. This 136 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: was very alternative at the time, because one, it was 137 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: like a decade if that old. In two it was 138 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: still very much linked to pseudoscience and spiritualism because like 139 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: the guy who came up with a Dade Palmer, he 140 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: claims that he discovered the practice by going to the 141 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: other side, like the spiritual realm, he passed through the 142 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: veil and it taught him chiro practic techniques allegedly, so 143 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: like as far as medical practices, though this is very 144 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: much hippy dippy essential oils of the era. That being said, 145 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: she must have been doing something right because John, her husband, 146 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: when most people with diabetes died within a couple months, 147 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: he lived for another four years. But life moves on 148 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: and so does Almida, and she remarries a rancher named 149 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: Hazeltine Wilson. I love all timing names. And Almida. She's 150 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: a busy lady. She has many fingers, many pies. She's 151 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: a chiropractice. She sets up a restaurant and also becomes 152 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: a teacher at a local school. I'm getting newer divergent 153 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: vibes from Almida here. I'm definitely feeling it. And Joshua, 154 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: he grows up on his step Favel's ranch in rural Canada, 155 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: where he does manly ranching things. He rides horses, he 156 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: doesn't go to the doctor because he doesn't believe in 157 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: traditional medicine. After years of doing manly Canadian ranching stuff, 158 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: he does go to school, and he goes to and 159 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: I shit you not nine separate sort of colleges and universities, 160 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: and there was no record of this man, Joshua Norman Haldeman, 161 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: of completing any of them. Like, so he went to 162 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: get educated and then did not complete anything. It seems 163 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: there was no record of him graduating anywhere at all 164 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: from any of these schools, not a one. And I 165 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: know sometimes like documents in the past can be difficult 166 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: to find, but the fact that there isn't one out 167 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: of nine highly suspicious if he did graduate. So I'm 168 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: going to go with nah. I'm going to assume that 169 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: he just didn't like how things were running there, because 170 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: like in later interviews, in like diet and things like that, 171 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: he always talks about how he grew up on a 172 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: ranch and was very self reliant, like a manly man 173 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: who did things for himself. But usually those kind of 174 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: men aren't good at taking direction from other people. So 175 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: I have my suspicions. So yeah, he ends up when 176 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: he's like twenty, like nineteen twenty, like he's having vision issues. 177 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: He's having problems with his eyes. But instead of going 178 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: to I don't know, an optimologist or an optometrist, he's like, no, 179 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: none of those traditional doctrine for me. And so he 180 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: travels to Davenport, Iowa, where he travels to get extreme 181 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: chiropractic treatment for his eyes. So they believed that a 182 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: lot of the issues in the body could be resolved 183 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: by like aligning the vertebrae and stuff like that. It's 184 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: kind of like reflexology. They're like, oh, if I rub 185 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: your toe this way, you won't have digestive problems anymore. 186 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Massage is cure diarrhea. You've heard it your first lads. 187 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Joshua Haldman reminds me of the guy in Monty Python 188 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: who builds swamp castle. This that I was daff to 189 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: build my castle on the swamp, but I built it 190 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: all the same. It sunk, and I built a second 191 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: castle on it fell into the swamp, and the third 192 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: castle it burned down, fell over. Then sack came to 193 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: the swamp. But the fourth one, the fourth one it stayed. 194 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: And that's what this is like with his nine music 195 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: cacilities and colleges. Because Joshua Haldeman this is his fourth 196 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: swamp castle. He goes to the chiropractic school, studies for 197 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: four whole years and graduates in nineteen twenty six as 198 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: a Doctor of Chiropractic and after four years of treatment 199 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: in study, Joshua claims that he does not need optical 200 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: aids of any kind and thanks to special extreme chiropractic 201 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: treatment from his lifelong friend bj Palmer, chiropractor and possible 202 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: committeer of patricide. But anyway, Joshua claimed that for the 203 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: next twenty years he will not require any optical aids, 204 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: no glasses, spectacles, monocles, none of that jazz. He's like 205 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: got perfect eyes thanks to his buddy Bjay. After Joshua graduates, however, 206 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: he does not go into the chiropractic field. Instead, he 207 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: returns to ranching. Unfortunately for Joshua, this was not exactly 208 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: the most opportune moment in which to return to farming. 209 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: You see nineteen twenty nine, the stock market crashes and 210 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: also there is a ten year drought in Saskatchewan, Canada. 211 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: The drought was bad enough because you're already struggling to farm. 212 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: You're not getting the same returns on your labor. But 213 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: they're in the midst of the depression and people are struggling. 214 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Finances are down, and the banks start calling in their loans, 215 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: especially on farming equipment, and so Joshua here cannot keep 216 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: up with the read payments. And so just like a 217 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: lot of his neighbors who were also leasing farming equipment 218 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: and could not keep up with the payments. But the 219 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: banks ends up losing his farm, the ranch gone, just 220 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: like a bunch of people he knew. And this is 221 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: a turning point for Joshua because this is a moment 222 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: in his life where like a switch is flicked and 223 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: he decides that he hates banks and hates the government. 224 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Now heating banks. I get it, I get it. We 225 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: bail them out. They've done stupid shit for so many years, 226 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: and yet here we are. But although for Joshua it 227 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: was less about the banks being financial institutions and more 228 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: about who was running the banks, very much scapegoat poisonous 229 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: mushroom scenario. And Joshua he's lost his farm. What is 230 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: he going to do? A man who hates government, decides 231 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: to get into politics. And here's the thing. The conditions 232 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: in this area of Canada are fucking dire. Like people 233 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: are one hundred percent struggling. And so I can understand 234 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: when people are struggling to feed their children and to 235 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: get through the day and pay for their necessary medicine cough, 236 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: that they end up looking towards more radical political movements 237 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: that they think are going to ensure the betterment of 238 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: their lives. And so Haldeman again no farm, nothing to do, 239 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: very pissed off at the government and banks and the bankers, bureaucrats, etc. 240 00:16:52,080 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: He ends up joining several political movements. First, he's very 241 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: much on the left, the Cooperative Commonwealth Foundation. This was 242 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: like an amalgamation of various labor, farmer and socialist groups, 243 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: which is basically a farmer's co op, which expected the 244 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: government to provide more relief and to alleviate the pressure 245 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: for people suffering in these areas in Canada, specifically farmers 246 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: and farming communities. And by the mid nineteen thirties he 247 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: becomes a big supporter of this. He even becomes the 248 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: local party chairman. All the while Joshua here is surviving 249 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: off of a government relief program. So just to confirm 250 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: for everybody, just to make sure we're all on the 251 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: same page. Here, Joshua Norman Haldeman is currently complaining about socialism, bureaucracy, 252 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: the government while being part of political party and also 253 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: in receipt of government subsidies. We are clear great this 254 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: being a time where employment is at an all time low, 255 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: you kind of take the jobs that you're giving. And 256 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: Joshua was traveling around and he takes a bunch of 257 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: odd jobs. He does a lot of like cowboy stuff, 258 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: so he's like herding cattle, he's doing ranching, he performs 259 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: in rodeos, and also construction here works construction because they're 260 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: still building things, so there's a job. He is quite 261 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: literally living the nineteen thirties League Depression era hobo living 262 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: like that is his life. He's jumping on freight trains. 263 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: He's living in I don't want to call it like 264 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: a shanty town, but like the little tent towns, Like 265 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: that's the life he's living. Meanwhile, he's got a wife 266 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: back home, like his family is back home and he's 267 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: just not going near them, like I think eleven years 268 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: they're married in total. But yeah, he's just like off 269 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: doing this and she's back in Saskatchewan and so he's 270 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: traveling around doing this all the while. By the way, 271 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: because I think this is just funny, he hates Coca 272 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: Cola because at this point coca cola still had cocaine 273 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: in it, so it was made with cola, nuts, cocaine, 274 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: something else. I don't remember the rest, but like other 275 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: things that, I've got a whole episode in Coca Cola. 276 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: It's like episode three or four. Go back and listen 277 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: or don't. It's actually shockingly bad audio wise, so I'm 278 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: probably gonna record that again. But anyway, hates coca cola 279 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: because there's cocaine in it, and so he believes people 280 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: are being overly medicated with coca cola and that that's 281 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: an issue because again he doesn't believe in medicine, like 282 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: it's the whole thing. But yeah, he's out doing his 283 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: hobo life and eventually comes back to Saskatchewan, and yeah, 284 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: their marriage doesn't stick. I think they cite financial difficult 285 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: is the reason for divorce, which during the nineteen thirties 286 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: everyone's like, yeah, that seems fair, that seems fair. I mean, 287 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: you can't fault her though eleven years of this dealing 288 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: with him hobo and around Canada, only for him to 289 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: come back, start a debate society and then get a divorce. 290 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: Like cool, She's like cool, thanks adio. Somego bye bye. 291 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: In nineteen thirty six, he ends up in Regina, the place, 292 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: not the person, just to clarify, and he becomes enamored 293 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: with a new political ideology, technocracy. What is technocracy, Katie, Well, 294 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked, because I'll tell you so. You 295 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: know how, democracy is a system of government that ideally 296 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: is by the people for the people, Like it is 297 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: a rule which should be done by majority vote. People 298 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: that make the rules and enforce the rules would be elected, 299 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: Like that's democracy. People should have their say majority rules. 300 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Now a technocracy is saying that we don't need that 301 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: because that's emotional. We shouldn't be ruled like that. Everything 302 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: should be clinical and should be led by engineers. And 303 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: later on they add scientists to that, but initially, at 304 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: this point in time, it's specifically engineers, like let the 305 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: smartest people do the job. And before the Second World 306 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: War breaks out, Joshua joins Technocracy inc. Technocracy Incorporated was 307 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the brainchild of one Howard Scott, a renowned scientist and 308 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: engineer with a doctorate from the University of Berlin. He 309 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: had been involved in really complicated projects across the world. 310 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: He had worked in munitions factories in Britain and industrial 311 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: projects for US Steel, and those involved in Technocracy Inc. 312 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Believed that it would solve all the issues currently being 313 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: caused or mismanaged by the governments. It believed it could 314 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: create a more rational and productive society because it was 315 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: controlled by technical experts instead of politicians and other such people. 316 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: In Technocracy Inc. Goes out of its way to state 317 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: that it is not a political movement, even though it 318 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: is entrenched in it. They have this whole goal for 319 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: changing society for the better, and the first thing is 320 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: to remove all elected officials and replace them with technical experts, scientists, 321 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: engineers and the like. The smart people are supposed to 322 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: be in charge. They're like officially smart people, but like, 323 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: who's testing for that? What are you know the prerequisites? 324 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Who watches the watchmen? Yep, you know it's it's a system, 325 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: but there's no regulation really in that. It's a bit 326 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: weird anyway, So countries don't exist. It's like a single entity. 327 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: Countries don't exist. Everybody is part of and now quote 328 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: the technate. They're all part of the Technque, ruled by 329 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: engineers and scientists because they know how to make a 330 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: productive society. Because they're not relying on emotion. Capitalism is 331 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: out the window, which is not the worst thing in 332 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: the world, because like people confuse commerce in capitalism all 333 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: the time, they're two separate things. Anyway, I'm not gonna 334 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: get into that right now. So they're like, capitalism is 335 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: a way we don't want money. Money is a problem 336 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: because nobody earns an income. So just to keep everybody 337 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: on the same page, there is no government. Engineers, scientists, 338 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: they're running the show. There are no countries. Everything's part 339 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: of the Technque. There is no currency, like the concept 340 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: of currency has gone. Money, money, money, money, money, money, money, 341 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: money is gone. Okay. Instead you have energy vouls. So 342 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: as part of their functional control system, the Technique would 343 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: measure the total energy output of the continent and any 344 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: other continent, and annually a lot to each citizen a 345 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: set number of energy certificates, which would replace money. This 346 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: would mean people wouldn't go into debt, they wouldn't be 347 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: able to save anything for the future. And they also 348 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to buy or sell anything, and the 349 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: value of goods or services would be measured not on 350 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: how much they cost to produce money wise, because that 351 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and not on how much physical human labor 352 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: was involved in creating it, but on how much energy 353 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: was consumed to produce the product or produce the nervis 354 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: like literal energy, like burning coal. It's basically removing the 355 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: human element from society. It's weird. It's so it's not 356 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: even rational, it's not even logical. It is just devoid 357 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: of humanity. It's weird to me because technocracy is trying 358 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: to present itself as this utopia of equality, when all 359 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: it's done is invented a new form of rations. It's 360 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: just rationing, but in a different format. And this is 361 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: where they really ensnared people as denizens of the technocracy. 362 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: You would only have to work from ages twenty five 363 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: to forty five, so you've only got twenty years of 364 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: work in and if you think that's good, right, you 365 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: only have to work about four hours a day for 366 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five days a year, so you 367 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: have two hundred days or two hundred and one on 368 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: elipe yea off free time, leisure to do as you pleased. 369 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Because everyone would just been living a completely rational life. 370 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: You would have more time for leisure activities. And remember 371 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: this is during the Great Depression where people are struggling, 372 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: and when you hear ideas like this, of course they're 373 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: going to grasp onto it with two hands. That being said, 374 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: there was a journalist who was able to smell some 375 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: bullshit in the air and started to do some digging 376 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: on mister Howard Scott. See he was not the genius 377 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: engineer he had claimed to be. No, he was talking 378 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: right out of his horse, that's right. His entire backstory 379 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: was a complete fabrication. Walter Mitty here had not just 380 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: claimed to be a super genius scientist man, but he 381 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: had also claimed to be a football star Notre Dame, 382 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: that he started a literal riot in Montreal after some Jesuits, 383 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: and that he once had to flee to Mexico because 384 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: he shot an archbishop. But of course Howard Scott wasn't 385 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: going to let something like the truth get in the 386 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: way of his big dreams. And Joshua, who's going by J. N. 387 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Haldeman at this time. He is a massive fan. He 388 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: is super into Technocracy Inc. It is his jam and 389 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: his butter, And by the late nineteen thirties, not only 390 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: is he like an active member, but he was the 391 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Canadian president of the Canadian chapter of Technocracy Inc. I 392 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: feel like this is a good time to remind everybody 393 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: that Joshua Norman Haldeman was a rancher come chiropractor who 394 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: was now the Canadian chairman for a political movement that 395 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: was claiming not to be a political movement that was 396 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: based on the concept of a socialist utopia the utilized 397 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: slave labor. So, like the members of Technocracy Inc. They 398 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: always start wearing like matching gray uniforms and it's like, 399 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: of all the options they chose, we want one that 400 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: is devoid of color. It's gray like machines, like good guys. Cool, 401 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. So, yeah, they're all 402 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: in gray uniforms and they're saluting each other at meetings 403 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: in what some have referred to as not dissimilar to 404 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: certain fascist salutes like brown shirts and black shirts and 405 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: the like, just putting it out there anyhow, they're doing that. 406 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: They're wearing these gray hacking uniforms so depressing, and they 407 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: are it's suggested, it's suggested by Scott that they refer 408 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: to themselves by number and not by name, which makes 409 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: me wonder if anybody kind of stood up in the 410 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: middle of it and was just like, I am not 411 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: a number, I am a free man. For those of 412 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: you who get that reference, you're welcome. I like old things, 413 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: so you know, the numbers, not names. The weird matching outfits, 414 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: the saluting people are noticing, but they're not getting too 415 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: mad about it because it's Canada and they weren't too 416 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: worried about that. But by nineteen forty, World War two 417 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: has been going on for about a year. Technocracy Ink 418 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: is banned in Canada, and not because it's aligned with 419 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Nazis or Nazi ideology or anything akin to that. It's 420 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: because it was politically opposed to the Second World War, 421 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: or i should say Canada's involvement in the Second World War. 422 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: So effectively, Technocracy Ink was anti war because they believed 423 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: that war was a waste of energy and resources. Which 424 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing what's wrong, Like war is a waste 425 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: of energy and resources. But unfortunately, when tho's injustices happening 426 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: across the world, and some motherfucker thinks it's perfectly acceptable 427 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: to try and annihilate another group of people for no 428 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: fucking reason other than their own bigotry. Yeah, get up, 429 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: do shit, solve the problem. You want a fucking utopia, 430 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: then you have to create the utopia. You cannot let 431 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: the bad people win. Sidebar. I'm gonna take a moment 432 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: to tell you about a movie called Equilibrium starring Sean Bean. 433 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, he dies. That's why I don't trust any 434 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: movie Sean Bean's and Cuma watching him suspiciously every single time. 435 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: So the movie is called Equilibrium, I'm fairly certain. And 436 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: it's a society where emotion has been removed. It is 437 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: a crime to feel emotion, and so everybody is taking 438 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: these pills to stop themselves from feeling things right, and 439 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: so everybody goes about their day without feeling any emotion. 440 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: So you can't enjoy poetry or art or anything like that. 441 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: And people are not taking the meds and our feeling emotions, 442 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: and it's a whole thing. But it reminds me kind 443 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: of of this whole concept of technocracy because they're trying 444 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: to remove the human element from humanity, which is bad. 445 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: It's just a shitty idea. So roll back to Technocracy 446 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Incia and they are anti war. They're anti politics, allegedly, 447 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: they're like not what in Canada has be involved in 448 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: a world war. They don't like Nazis, which is good 449 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: because nobody should like Nazis. I feel like this is 450 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: something I should not have to explain to you. But 451 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: if you hold Nazis in high regard, you've got a 452 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: fucking problem. You need therapy because you are wrong. You 453 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: are just objectively wrong as a person. Okay. No, they 454 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: don't like the Nazi Party because they're political and because 455 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: they started a war, which wastes resources. That's why they 456 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: don't like them, because they wasted energy and resources. They 457 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: don't like any form of communism or socialism, specifically because 458 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: they don't believe that is the best way to distribute resources, 459 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: because it should be divvied out by engineers. They don't 460 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: like capitalism because it's a waste of energy and resources. 461 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: And so because they release a statement saying that they 462 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: are anti war, Technocracy inc Is banned in Canada and 463 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: on the eighth of October nineteen forty, Joshua Haldeman is 464 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: actually arrested by Mounties the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in 465 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: charged with belonging to an illegal organization under the Canadian 466 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: Defense Act. Why because he was out printing Technocracy ink flyers. 467 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: He had paid for it to be printed in a 468 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: local newspaper. Like I feel like this is an actual 469 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: literal definition of a paper trail. Like you left an 470 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: actual paper trail, Joshua, Oh my goodness, I didn't even 471 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: tell you his number. So Joshua Norman Haldeman's number was 472 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: one zero four five zero dash one. In the way 473 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: that they came up with these numbers, it was like 474 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: the longitude and laritude of the place in which you 475 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: were residing. So because he was in Regina, again the location, 476 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: not the person, that was his number. And Joshua, a 477 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: man who clearly loved to hear his own thoughts, wrote 478 00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: in the Technocracy Inc. Magazine predicting an upcoming smash of society. 479 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do a wee Transatlantic accent for you. All. 480 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: Technocracy Inc. Is preparing for a new social order that 481 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: is to come. If you are a Techno quid, are 482 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: you doing all that you can to extend the organization 483 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: and discipline yourself to marrior it subjectives, and like before 484 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: the ban actually comes into play, Howard Scott Is out 485 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: there telling everybody that Technocracy Inc. Is so powerful and 486 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: so influential that it will affect the government's decisions to 487 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: be involved in the Second World War. So Joshua tries 488 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: to travel, like from Canada down to the US to Minnesota, 489 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: to Minnesota, EH to do like a speech regarding technocracy, Inc. 490 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: But he stopped at the border and they're like no, no, 491 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: thank you, You're not allowed. So you're back to Joshua 492 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: being arrested by mounties. So he'd put an add in 493 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: the paper. He had his paper trail, and like twelve 494 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: buildings end up being raided by mounties, including his. He 495 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: gets arrested and then is charged, and he is charged 496 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: with distributing and publishing documents likely or intended to interfere 497 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: with the efficient prosecution of the war and likely to 498 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: cause disaffection to his majesty. Joshua was convicted on all counts, 499 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: and so he either had to pay a fine of 500 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars plus court costs or spend two months 501 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: in jail. So he's convicted in nineteen forty. The following year, 502 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: Joshua decides it's time to leave Technocracy Inc. You say, 503 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: the man had become disillusioned with the organization and the 504 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: utopia it was supposed to create, and so he establishes 505 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: his own party, Total War in Defense by nineteen forty three. 506 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: So like before the end of the war, even Canada 507 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: ends up removing the ban from Technocracy Inc. Like they 508 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: realize it's not anti war, or they accept it's not 509 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: anti war, or that they don't have the power to 510 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: do what they say they're going to do, like to 511 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: create dissent. For whatever reason, they unban it. But at 512 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: this point he is already hitched to another wagon. Consistency, 513 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: it seems, is not Joshua Norman Haldeman's strong point. I 514 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: think that might be genetic, you know. AnyWho, Between him 515 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: starting his new party, Total War in Defense and Technocracy 516 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: INK being like unbanned, he falls in love. See, for 517 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason, he decides to take up dance lessons. Maybe 518 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: he was just craving social interaction, who's to say, But 519 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: he takes up dance lessons and he falls in love 520 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: with his dance teacher, Josephine Fletcher, who unsurprisingly goes by 521 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: Winnie as opposed to Winnifred. So he and Winnie get 522 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: married in nineteen forty two. So forty one he sets 523 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: up his party, forty two he gets married, forty three 524 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: Technocracy inc On banned, and Winnie gives birth to a 525 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: set of twins, May and Kay I shit you not, 526 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: they named their children May and Kay and May yes 527 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: is Elon Musk's mother. The Holdomans actually go on to 528 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: have two more children, so they have four in total. 529 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: And just to remind Joselle, Joshua also has another kid 530 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: from his first wife, who he has no connection to. Again, 531 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: weird how that happens. So he's got a wife, two kids, 532 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: and he's a fairly big member of the DCCC, which 533 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: is the Dominion Council of Canadian Chiropractics. So here's a 534 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: funny story. Actually, because we're still during the war, right 535 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: in the DCCC, they have a meeting with the Canadian 536 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: Army because they're like, hey, how about we send chiropractors 537 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: off to war like to treat soldiers, And the Minister 538 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: of Defense is like, it's okay for them to enlist 539 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: as orderlies, but they're not allowed to enlist as doctors 540 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 1: because he doesn't see them as doctors. And then this 541 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: goes like down the chain to the head of the 542 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: Canadian Army Medical Corps and they're just like, no, you're 543 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be non combatants. So like, if 544 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: you come here, you have to actively fight in the war, 545 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: not just be cracking backs in a tent. Like, but 546 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: the chiropractors want to be treated as doctors, and they 547 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: use the Soviet Union in who are like the Allies. 548 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: They're saying, like they treat caro practors and doctors equally, 549 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: you should do it too. Needless to say, this doesn't 550 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: pan out for anybody in Joshua sort of between forty 551 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: three and forty four he founds a new political party 552 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: to align with the Social Credit Party of Canada, and 553 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: this all comes from an idea by a Scottish man 554 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: called Cleveld Hugh Douglas, and so he had this concept 555 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: of social credit. So like Joshua was like super into 556 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: Howard Scott, who had you know, was a big bullshitter, 557 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: and then goes to Clifford who Douglas, who was also 558 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: a bullshitter, who made up a bunch of stuff of 559 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: his past as well, Like you said, he was the 560 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: chief engineer of the British Westinghouse Company in India, but 561 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: like there's no information, there's no record of his existence 562 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: there whatsoever. He's just like pulled it out of a hat, 563 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: like Yep, no, this is the British westing House Company. Yeah, uh, 564 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: we're where we got all the colonies India. Yep, that's 565 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: where they are. Yeah, where there's like no record of 566 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: him doing anything. So this social credit party, which is 567 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: Douglas's idea, he believed that the financial system, so capitalism effectively, 568 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: that there was a natural imbalance in it. When I 569 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: tell you the amount of jargon I had to dig 570 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: through to get to this core concept. Basically, workers don't 571 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: earn enough money if they cannot consume the goods they produce. 572 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: Like if you made boots, you should be able to 573 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: afford the boots, If you made bread, you had to 574 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: be able to afford the bread, et cetera, et cetera. 575 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: And that in social credit, in order to bridge that gap, 576 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: the government should provide sort of a stipend, like sort 577 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: of like a universal basic income that everyone should have 578 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: in order to survive. And Douglas felt that social credit 579 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: should exist within a political system, but it wasn't the 580 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: political system itself. This is actually a great segue for 581 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: me to talk about Marxism. So Marxism does not exist 582 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: in a vacuum. Marxism exists within capitalism because, as far 583 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: as Marx was concerned, the polarity, the distance between poor 584 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: and rich was too wide, and that these should be closer, 585 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: like nobody should be mega rich and nobody should be poor. Basically, 586 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: you know, no billionails right, effectively billionails didn't exist then, 587 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: but also no, so the gap between rich and pool 588 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: should be closer, right, so that nobody's loving in poverty 589 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: and nobody's buying twelve fucking super yachts. Release the orcas. Anyway, 590 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: it exists within capitalism. That's how Marxism works. So social 591 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: credit should exist within some kind of system. However, Douglas 592 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: believed that it was incompatible with democracy, and it was 593 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: also supposed to be part of like this Christian altruism system. No, 594 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm not here to trash anybody's economic system, except I 595 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: absolutely am, because it's fucking laughable. So like the idea 596 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: of getting like a boost to your income makes perfect sense, 597 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: like that in itself I don't really have too much 598 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: of an issue with but he wanted like goods to 599 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: be worthless and the government to pay more. And but 600 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: like this is a time where we're talking about like bread. 601 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: You know, bread should be much cheaper, like corang se 602 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: be much cheaper. Yeah, okay, co, but you still have 603 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: to pay farmers. Like it was a whole it's a 604 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: whole weird thing with like some very strong Christian roots 605 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: and oh oh boy, does Joshi love this? And what 606 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: do you know, he eventually becomes a provincial leader of 607 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: the Social Credit Party. There must be more than this 608 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: provincial life, which there is because he goes on and 609 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: becomes the party's national chairman. And for a party that 610 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: believes in having a basic universal income, they're not really 611 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: a big fan of equality or equity, Like they're so 612 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: anti communists, like no sharing and caring hair pals, Like 613 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: they're not into that at all. And in case you're wondering, yes, 614 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: it does get worse because it's not only anti communists, 615 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: but it's also anti Semitic because it bloody hates banks, right, 616 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: which on its own again you're thinking that's fine, people 617 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: can hate banks, bankers or wankers quite a lot of 618 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: the time. But the reason that they were so staunchly 619 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: anti bank was mainly big because Jewish people worked in 620 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: the banks, because the banks were Jewish. That's it. It's 621 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: based specifically on that. And J. N. Haldeman has to 622 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: like tell members not to be too overtly anti Semitic, like, 623 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: don't do too many dog whistles, guys, because the press 624 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: is starting to notice and we don't need the bad publicity. 625 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: Their aggressively anti Jewish movement did not go unnoticed, like 626 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: the Canadian Jewish Congress were well aware of them, like 627 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 1: they were genuinely concerned by the actions of this party, 628 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: and like the Social Credit Party I think in Canada's 629 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: entire history, is like the most anti Semitic party that 630 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: has ever existed. And the Socreds have like a bunch 631 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: of newspapers and shit, and in one of them they 632 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: actually print this bollocks. It is propaganda. It's a fake 633 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: Zionist like peace. It is the protocols of the Elders 634 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: of Zion. It is pure conspiracy fodder, right, And when 635 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: he is called on it, Joshua says that the plan 636 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: is outlined in this protocols has been rapidly unfolding in 637 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: a period of observation of this generation. Effectively, the soul 638 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: Creds made up this fake text, right, this fake document 639 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: saying that Jewish people were part of a secret society 640 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: that we're planning to take over the world. Right, it's 641 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: absolute fucking nonsense. Right. But Joshua was like, this is 642 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: clearly happening and says, and I quote this evidence indicates 643 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: that anti Semitism is a whopon of international finance and 644 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: socialism to introduce totalitarianism. He's trying to say that people 645 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: accusing him of being anti Semitic is a way to 646 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: create dictatorships. That's what he's saying. That's what as fucking bonkers, pal, 647 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: you need to either take more or less of your medication. 648 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which. It's such a fake, It is 649 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: such a complete fake that like a Swiss court ends 650 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: up dealing with it and they're like, this is officially bollocks, 651 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: Like this is the fakest fake that of effect, Like 652 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: that's like someone trying to paint the Mona Lisa. But 653 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: it looks like what that wee lady did when she 654 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: tried to repaint Jesus and made him look like a 655 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: monkey like that. And this is in nineteen forty seven. 656 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 1: This is two years after the end of World War Two, 657 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: where literally millions of Jewish people was slaughtered like animals. 658 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: And he's trying to say that there's a secret World 659 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: War I'll try to take over, and like, here's the thing. 660 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Jewish people in banks for 661 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: a quickly second. So the reason that Jewish people are 662 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: typically associated with money and money lenders in banking is 663 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: because of discrimination throughout history, and that's where they ended 664 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: up because that was the only positions that were available 665 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: to them, like for a long time, unless they were 666 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: working within their own communities. Those were the ways that 667 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: they made money. It's kind of like that whole trope 668 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: of gay men becoming hairdressers, right, and it's an old one, 669 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: and it basically went that heterosexual men do not work 670 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: in hair salons. Homosexual men work in hair salons, and 671 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: so what would happen is outwardly gay men would get 672 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: jobs in hair salons because they knew they'd get a 673 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: job as a hairdresser or whatever, because that was a 674 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 1: safe space for them. Like stereotypes happen because society usually 675 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: forces it to be that way. Like that was the 676 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: example my old lecturer gave us on our very first 677 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: week in sociology, because like when you first start, they 678 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,439 Speaker 1: try and like deconstruct your biases and things like that, 679 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: and so it sort of talked about things like that 680 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: and how stereotypes exist and how to challenge those stereotypes 681 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: and the inherent bias that we have within its, so 682 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: things like that. So Jewish people became money lenders because 683 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: that was the employment that was available to them, and 684 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: Joshua Norman Haldeman here is convinced that Jewish people were 685 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: controlling all the banks and therefore the governments and everything 686 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: in between. And he wanted Jewish people to join the 687 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 1: Social Credit Party of Canada because Social Credit is pro 688 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: Christian and pro Canadian. It is nineteen forty eight. J. N. 689 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: Haldeman is married, he's got four kids. He's part of 690 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: a political party with some dodgy origins and current stuff 691 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: going on, and his chiropractor business is doing well, and 692 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: he also finds his new passion in life and he 693 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: never gets what it is. Flying. He obtains his pilot's license, 694 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: which just makes things much easier for him. So before 695 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: he'd be driving like six hours to get from one 696 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: practice to the other practice, or he was trying to 697 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: go to one rally i mean meeting, and you'd be 698 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: going from A to B and now you could just fly, 699 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 1: and so he was zooming across the airways. My favorite 700 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: part about the political side of this is the fact 701 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: that J. N. Haldeman managed to lose every single election 702 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: he ever stood in, Like he never won once, he 703 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't even get close. He just failed consistently. I mean, 704 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: this is a definition of a man who kept failing upwards, 705 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, he's using the plane to fly 706 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: from like practice to practice. He's doing political stuff. He's 707 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: taking his family on trips, and he even goes to 708 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: like the Palmer Lyceum down into Avenport, Iowa, where he 709 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,399 Speaker 1: says his best day, B. J. Palmer, which is where 710 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: they're having this big chiropractic event, and so he goes 711 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: down to it. It's like a conference and he does 712 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: this big speech about personal freedom. Whoa. He's there with 713 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: his wife and May and Kay the Flying Twins, like 714 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: they actually get named the Flying Twins because they're like 715 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: look at these babies on a plane, or like these 716 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: toddlers on a plane. It's like the old timey version 717 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: of going viral, Like it was like, wow, look at 718 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: these babies on a plane. So it becomes like a 719 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: big thing and it ends up on like the TV 720 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: and stuff. But back in Canada, things were not going 721 00:50:54,680 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: super great for Jen see he was losing a re 722 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: election and also was convinced that communists were everywhere. Like 723 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: he ends up getting absolutely like ball that by a 724 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: group of like housewives in Regina and Canada because he 725 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: tells them they're like affront for the Communist party, like 726 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: Canadian housewives, like you're technically communists? What may what? So, like, 727 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: he tries to gather sort of proper funding for the 728 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 1: Soul Creds, but he just can't do it, possibly because 729 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: he's pissed off all the bloody bankers. So by nineteen 730 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: fifty he's like, oh, the government's out to get me. 731 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: Everybody hates me. And instead of moving to I don't know, America, 732 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: like United States, of which is just across the border. 733 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he loves Minnesota. Eh, clearly he's born there, 734 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: like he he could easily move to the United States, 735 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: like he just moved there. Him and his family couldn't 736 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: move them all, he chooses not to do that and 737 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: instead decides nineteen fifty time to move to South Africa. 738 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: Like it was a surprise for most people that he 739 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: decided to upsticks and move with may Ky and Whinne 740 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: like down to South Africa, because it, for a lot 741 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: of people just seemed to come out of nowhere. But 742 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: he says that he was inspired to move there by 743 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: an Anglican minister from South Africa that he met at 744 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: a Toronto trade fail, the place that Anglican ministers are 745 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: known to frequent and when he moves there with may Ky, 746 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: Whennie and the whole kit and Kabul, like the apartheid 747 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: regime is only really being like established, like it wasn't 748 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: running for like this entire time, it wasn't fully integrated. 749 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,479 Speaker 1: But he came just at the right time for him. 750 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: And like in South Africa, because most people were clean shaven, 751 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: they thought he was a bit weird because he had 752 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: to be. And it's like reddish brown. That being said, 753 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: I've never met a man who didn't have a bit 754 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: of red in his beild, Like it just seems to 755 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: be a thing anywhow not relevant, but I just noticed it, 756 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: Like you'll start noticing it to you. But like does 757 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: some man have red in his beild? Everyone does. So 758 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: their life in South Africa did not start off in 759 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: the most luxurious of ways because like he sells everything, 760 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,320 Speaker 1: gets rid of everything, grabs the wife and the four kids, 761 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: gets on a boat and travels for like a month 762 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: to get to South Africa, and the entire journey he 763 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: is just chucking buckets. He has terrible seasickness. He is 764 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 1: not doing well, and he arrives in South Africa without 765 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: knowing anybody, without having any sort of plan, like he 766 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have anything set up, like nothing, Like they arrive 767 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: and they have to sleep on a beach because he 768 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: hasn't organized anything, Like they have to stay on the beach. 769 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: Will they build a bloody plane? Like it was a 770 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: plane kit, like you could buy a plane kit back then. 771 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't just like making it out of bicycle parts 772 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: and an old engine like Lilian Bland. No, he was 773 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: building it from a kit. And so then they had 774 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: the plane and he flew across trying to find somewhere 775 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: to be. This is the wildest part, Like this is 776 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: a thing crazy men do. This is midlife crisis nonsense. 777 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: Right here, oh, just sell up your entire life. Make 778 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: your family travel listening to your puke for a month, 779 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 1: make them live on a beach. Will you build a 780 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: plane so you can figure out your next step? And 781 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: the man is, we know, Love's flying. So he's flying 782 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: all over South Africa trying to find somewhere to go. 783 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: His own family say that he wanted to to do 784 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: like adventuring because he was like an adventure junkie and 785 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: love traveling around like he is flying his plane, so 786 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: he's trying to find someone to live. Yeah, but he 787 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: is also trying to find the lost city of the 788 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: Kalahari Desert. And he would do it every summer. Every 789 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: summer he'd get in his plane and he'd be like, 790 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this lost city. I'm a white man, 791 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do it, like sure, buddy, Sure. Like 792 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: he loved flying about so much. He'd be in South Africa. 793 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: He'd been up in Rhodesia. So Rhodesia is like you 794 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: think apartheid was bad, Rhodesia is a proper white supremacist 795 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: state and people fucking hated it. Like even the British 796 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: Empire thought they were too racist. The British Empire, like 797 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: it was awful and it's just shitty, but anyway, South Africa. 798 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: So when he finally settles down in Pretoria, he hints 799 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: up writing an essay back to one of the old 800 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: newspapers in Canada, basically stating like how amazing life is 801 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 1: an apartheid South Africa. And I'm gonna do the voice 802 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: again because I'm gonna read you almost verbatim. I'm not 803 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna say some words. We have two Native and Word 804 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: garden boys in the summer and one in the winter, 805 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: and a Native girl. We give them food and a 806 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: lot of their clothing and pay them from ten dollars 807 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,360 Speaker 1: to fifteen dollars a month. The law requires that we 808 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: supply them with separate furnished rooms with nine inch brick walls, 809 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: private toilet and shower. In fact, better living accommodations than 810 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: I enjoyed for most of my life in Canada. It 811 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,919 Speaker 1: is impossible to make a Native work hard. It takes 812 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 1: three Natives to do the work of one white man, 813 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: and white people here work half as hard as Canadians. 814 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 1: Don't worry, it gets worse. Black labor in South Africa 815 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: industry is found to be the most expensive labor in 816 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 1: the world. The males among the blacks on their reservations 817 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: do not work at all, and the women may work 818 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: an hour or two. So on the reservations. Their standard 819 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: of living is not very high, but they are happy 820 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: and contented with it unless straight up, as during the 821 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: up is an almost impossible job. In spite of the 822 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: best efforts of the communists, they've had practically no success. 823 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: Any talk of a native uprising in Africa is purely 824 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: communists wishful thinking or propaganda. There is no place in 825 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: the world where the natives are treated better nor receive 826 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: higher wages than here. Strict law enforcement is necessary to 827 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: prevent the natives from surrounding territories from flocking here. He's 828 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: basically saying that everything's great, the working conditions are great, 829 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: he pays everyone so much money, like everybody is doing amazing, 830 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: and that they have to stop people from other African 831 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: countries coming to South Africa because native indigenous people of 832 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: South Africa are having too good a life and as such, 833 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: other people are flocking there and they have to stop it, 834 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: and that very strict laws as part of this apartheid 835 00:57:54,240 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: regime are necessary to keep order and that that everyone 836 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: is too lazy to revolt, Like that's that's what he's saying. 837 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: He goes on to say a native may be able 838 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: to read and write in four languages and have no 839 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: understanding of them, or maybe he just understands what he 840 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: wants to understand. Some are quite clever in a routine job, 841 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: but the best of them cannot assume responsibility and will 842 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: abuse authority. The present government of South Africa knows how 843 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: to handle the native question. They are endeavoring to make 844 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: the native as independent and self supporting as possible. The 845 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: Communists and their fellow travelers continually misrepresents the government's efforts. 846 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: See Josh boy, he always felt like he was hot 847 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: done by that he had a tough life. Like here's 848 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: the thing, living through the Great Depression. Granted, I will 849 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: give you that that sucks, right, but you have every 850 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to make a good life for yourself if you 851 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: just loved it and enjoyed it. But instead you wanted 852 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: to remove the rights of other people. Because apparently, unless 853 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: he can physically see someone being oppressed in front of him, 854 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: then he must be the one being oppressed, and he 855 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: is trying to convince more Canadians to move to South Africa. 856 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: He's trying to get a greater white population there. He's like, 857 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: everything's better here and the natives are stupid and we're 858 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: so much better than them. It's not just racism, it's 859 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: eugenics as well. It's like this whole fucking thing. And 860 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to convince racists to move to an area 861 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: and make it even more racist, like Elon Musk's racist 862 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: grandfather is trying to do that. He's like, come, let's 863 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: treat these people as if they're not human. But look 864 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: how well I'm treating them. They have the ability to 865 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: work for me, even though they're so stupid they can 866 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: only just about do their jobs. Like what the actual fuck, Joshua. 867 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: He's also, by the way, getting super tight with the 868 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: South African government because he's doing it's chiro practice stuff. 869 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: He's clacking the backs of South African leaders, government officials, presidents, 870 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: the whole shaban and like even his office, like his 871 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: chiropractor practice, like the governor's mansion was like I think 872 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: it overlooked it even it was like fairly close. And 873 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: his business builds for like the next ten years, and 874 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: then in nineteen sixty, the Prime minister comes to visit, 875 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: like the British Prime Minister Harold McMillan is there and 876 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: he's like, you're being a bit racist. Like the British 877 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Prime Minister has been like us a bit much, lads, 878 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: I think you might be crossing a bout of a line. 879 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Isabella and Ferdinand of Portugal, 880 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: who were like, okay, Christopher Columbus, could you maybe not 881 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: subjects of Portugal should not be slaves? Christoph Columbus, Okay, okay, 882 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 1: Like it's got that kind of vibe to it. It's like, 883 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: don't do that, pal, that's not appropriate. And in retaliation, 884 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Jane Haldeman writes a book, The International Conspiracy to establish 885 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: a World Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa, like 886 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: he does write another book which is The International Conspiracy 887 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: and Health, Like the dude loves of conspiracy and the 888 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: conspiracies all revolve around Jewish people and socialists have a 889 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: secret society that is trying to take over the world, 890 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be surprised if he was also the 891 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: person who came up with the Lizard people, like I 892 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: would not be surprised. So he thinks Jews and socialists 893 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: are trying to rule the world and they're doing it 894 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: through control of health, because remember socialists want everyone to 895 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: have like social health care, universal health care, medicine and 896 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,479 Speaker 1: Jewish people are doctors. And so he's like, ah, they're 897 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: trying to get us with medicine and floride in the 898 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: water and vaccines. Ah, Like nobody's putting a five G 899 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: chip in your brain. Pow, Like it's not happening. Like 900 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: if you walk around with a phone, people can track you. 901 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Like it's it's not the algorithm knows, buddy. I we're 902 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: gonna give you another one of the quotes. Okay, the 903 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: conspiracy feels like any medical intervention, so long as it 904 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: is in mess is a desirable procedure. Above all, promoters 905 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: of the world government have always been behind mex vaccination programs. 906 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Like he was worried that this Jewish socialist medical secret conspiracy. 907 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: We're trying to control the world through vaccinations, which kind 908 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: of explains why Muskie Boy himself when absolutely feral during 909 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: COVID Like here's the thing I want to make clear 910 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: to you, they tested the COVID vaccine. I get my 911 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 1: boostoos Like every opportunity I get because I don't want 912 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: to be responsible for the deaths of other people. You know, 913 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to explain to you that we should 914 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: care about other people. And the whole thing about vaccinations 915 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: is we know what's in them because they list the ingredients, 916 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: and we know how we respond to them because of 917 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: the immuno response we have, which is why if you 918 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: get a vaccine, a lot of the time, after you 919 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: get a jab, you'll get a fever. Like I react 920 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: bloody horribly to all my jabs. I am sick for 921 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: full twenty four hours, sometimes more. I have fevers because 922 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I have some kind of autoimmune condition that my doctors 923 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: haven't figured out yet. But I react really badly. But 924 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: what's a day or two of just shitness than you know, 925 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: the death of somebody on chemo, Like I don't want 926 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: that on my fucking hands, like it, neither should you. 927 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: We know the effect of the vaccine because we have 928 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: an immunal response. Naturally, there's going to be some people 929 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: that are going to have a worse reaction and some 930 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: people will have a better reaction. That's how things work. 931 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: Like I'm on birth control. You know, one of the 932 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: side effects for birth control is death. Death. Another one 933 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: is cancer or blood clots. Like, none of these are good, 934 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: and yet I keep doing it. Okay, if I'm willing 935 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: to go through that. If you expect anybody to go 936 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: on birth control and you're not willing to get vaccinated, 937 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: you don't deserve to have sex. I'm gonna say that now, Okay, 938 01:04:52,840 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: AnyWho rant over back to Joshua Norman Haldeman, Elon Musk's 939 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: race's grandfather living in South Africa with his wife Winnie 940 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: and their group of children. So he's there, he's doing 941 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 1: his chiropractice stuff. He's and they're also putting out like 942 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: bulletins every month in the chiropractic office. And so you've 943 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 1: got way May Young May of May and Kay. The 944 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Flying Twins fame Elon Musk's mother. She would like help 945 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: write a bunch of the stuff. And the twins would 946 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: like do shit about the office like they would do 947 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: reception work. And I think from when they're like twelve. 948 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: It started when they're twelve, and they just kind of 949 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: went up from there. Anyway, forget about the Flying Twins 950 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: for a week. Second, we're gonna roll back to nineteen 951 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: sixty you've got Heward McMillan who's like, I don't think 952 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: that's a good idea, old chap. I think they're being 953 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 1: away bit far about the whole concept of apartheid, because 954 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: he sent us one of the people to kind of 955 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 1: have away investigation. Because there was a protest of indigenous 956 01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: South Africans, of black South Africans were protesting the cruelty 957 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: or the latest cruelty of the apartheid regime, and in 958 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 1: a move that surprises absolutely no one, they opened fire 959 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: on the protesters. Sixty nine Black South Africans were killed, 960 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: over one hundred and eighty more were wounded, and unsurprisingly, 961 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 1: the law enforcement and the government justified the slaughtering of 962 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: innocent humans, stating that the native mentality does not allow 963 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: them to gather for peaceful demonstration. For them to gather 964 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 1: means violence. This was known as the Sharp Film massacre, 965 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 1: and in March nineteen sixty the United Nations passed Resolution 966 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 1: one three four, which was the first official condemnation of apartheid. 967 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: And it was like the start of I'm gonna call 968 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: it diplomatic isolation, Like you had McMillan been like, okay, now, 969 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: this is definitely too much like you can't just shoot people. 970 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: This isn't the old days of the empire. You can't 971 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 1: just do that. And so like this led to like 972 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 1: a bit of a schism, and so this led to 973 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: himself Huldeman producing the book, like I want to add 974 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: as well, it was self published, like a publisher didn't 975 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: do it for him. He self published this book, the 976 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: International Conspiracy to establish a World Dictatorship and the Menace 977 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: to South Africa. This book is forty two pages long, 978 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: and let me tell you it is forty two pages 979 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: too many. Like in this book that he chose to 980 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: write and then publish, he actually goes on about other 981 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: black people from other nations are going to try and 982 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 1: invade South Africa because of the Sharp film massacre and 983 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: it's like you think they want to put themselves in 984 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: front of the fire and s what like you think 985 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 1: that's situation. And he also blames like the world's media 986 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: for calling attention to it because he says it's not 987 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 1: like a big deal because he doesn't think, you know, 988 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: the slaughter, the murder of sixty nine people and the 989 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: wounding of like one hundred and eighty others is acceptable, 990 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: Like he thinks that's fine. Like he refuses to call 991 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 1: it a massacre. He calls it a riot, and he 992 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,759 Speaker 1: says it happened on purpose to affect the South African 993 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: stock market. Like the man is coco bananas. Okay, this 994 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: is this is not a healthy person who is coming 995 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 1: up with these ideas. And like at the very end 996 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 1: of his book, like he gives reading recommendations and it's 997 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: just to a bunch of anti Semitic like newspapers and journals, 998 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: like it's just a trover them. And that's the type 999 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 1: of tripe he's were gurgitating for the rest of his life. 1000 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 1: But anyway, when he's in his late sixties, in nineteen 1001 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: seventy one, his grandson Elon Musk is born to May 1002 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,759 Speaker 1: and Eryl Musk. And three years later in nineteen seventy four, 1003 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: Dayan Haldeman. He's in his plane, he's got a passenger 1004 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: and he's flying one day and as he's trying to 1005 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: get to the ground, he's trying to do like a 1006 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: practice landing, the wheels get caught in a telephone wire 1007 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,759 Speaker 1: and it basically just sling shots him to the ground 1008 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: like the entire plane and he is killed, I believe 1009 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: instantly He just like an old timey Acme Cutton. He 1010 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,799 Speaker 1: just splats right on the ground where that he didn't 1011 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: see those telephone wires, considering how fantastic his eyesight was 1012 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: from you know, all of that chiropractic treatment. AnyWho. So 1013 01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: ends the story of Joshua Norman Haldeman, a man who 1014 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: had a fondness for men with dodgy credentials and backstories 1015 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 1: and big ideas on how to upturn society, who was 1016 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: convinced that socialists and Jewish people were working together as 1017 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 1: puppet masters to destroy civilization and rule the world, That 1018 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 1: any disease could be cured by a good chiropracta in 1019 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: the vaccines will just affront to create dictatorships, and that 1020 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: democracy was the root of all evil. Thank you all 1021 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 1: for listening to me tell you about Elon Musk's incredibly 1022 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 1: racist grandfather, Joshua Norman Haldman. If you liked my retelling 1023 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: of this story, feel free to written review five starts. 1024 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 1: I have a strange feeling that my reviews are going 1025 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,600 Speaker 1: to suddenly bomb for no reason whatsoever, So if you 1026 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 1: could review, that would be super. If you want to 1027 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: donate the PayPal, feel free to do so. If you 1028 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 1: want to give from the wish list or send me something, 1029 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: fan mail whatever to my care of address. It's on 1030 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: the website and should be down below now now that 1031 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 1: I think about it. Anyway, you can follow me on 1032 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: all of the socials, and don't forget tickets are available 1033 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: for live shows and more will be announced in the 1034 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: coming weeks. Okay, so pretty prettypare time for recommendation. It's 1035 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: recommendation time. So for reading, I'm going to suggest to 1036 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:35,680 Speaker 1: be unsettled by a Tama mathis for watching Abbot Elementary. 1037 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: We live in a hellscape right now and it is 1038 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: pure joy. Watch it. It's fabulous. And for listening, you 1039 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: know what country Carter Beyonce's album Go ahead, do you 1040 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: want to Grammy, go listen to it. It's a good time. 1041 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening, and I shall bid you 1042 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,759 Speaker 1: farewell adios au revoir if it is them, my friends, 1043 01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: a bye bye