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Speaker 1: All right, we talk a lot about the Dolphin game

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Speaker 1: when we were done on that postgame show. We don't

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Speaker 1: need to go into that again. Obviously, a lot of

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Speaker 1: news coming up this week. JC will have some word

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Speaker 1: from Brian Dable here. He's going to address the media

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Speaker 1: in a in a couple of minutes. This is one

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Speaker 1: of those kind of you know, to the side with

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Speaker 1: Twitter feeds CF he has any o your injury news,

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Speaker 1: but obviously, the one we're all keeping an eye on

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Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones. There was an NFL Network report earlier

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Speaker 1: today coming off of their Insiders program with Garafolo, Rappaport

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Speaker 1: and Pella Sero that Daniel is heading in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's not gonna play Sunday, but I

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Speaker 1: think preparations are being you know, Giant fan should mentally

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Speaker 1: prepare for the fact that it could very well be

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor on money on Sunday night if they haven't

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Speaker 1: already done that. If you do have to go Tyrod

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Speaker 1: instead of Daniel, how do you think that impacts what

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Speaker 1: the Giants might do offensively?

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Speaker 2: Nothing, No, I don't. I don't think so. Tyrod Taylor

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Speaker 2: is very capable of running this offense that you know,

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Speaker 2: these guys been doing. He's been doing since longer than

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones been doing because you know the I guess

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Speaker 2: the transfer over from Buffalo, yep with with day Ball,

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Speaker 2: and he's very similar in the things that he can do.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a very active quarterback in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: He can move around the pocket, he create outside the pocket,

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Speaker 2: he can throw on the run, he can run the football,

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Speaker 2: you know, and and he's very capable. He's won games

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Speaker 2: in this league. He started in this league. And I

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Speaker 2: talked about this in one of the shows that it's

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Speaker 2: good to have a very experienced, very talented and as

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Speaker 2: a backup quarterback as an insurance policy as Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 2: and you know, now it's gonna be You're gonna see him.

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Speaker 2: But look, I don't think it matters who's playing quarterback

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Speaker 2: because the offensive line is the major issue that the

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Speaker 2: Giants seem to kind of, you know, weak in and

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Speaker 2: week out. And it's not only just the play it's

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Speaker 2: the injuries. Attrition has decimated this offensive line, you know.

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Speaker 2: And even when Tyrod came in last week, he was

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that I know, we

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Speaker 2: need to talk about and we're gonna address, and the Giants,

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Speaker 2: the Giants need to talk about and they're going to address.

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Speaker 2: But it starts with the offensive line, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I hope they can put up a better showing than

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Speaker 2: they have, especially in the last two weeks where they've

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Speaker 2: given up eighteen sacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a lot, and it's just the stat

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Speaker 1: I've been given Pro football focus tracks pressure is allowed

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Speaker 1: by just the offensive line, so that takes out pressure

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Speaker 1: is allowed by tight ends, running back protection, even pressures

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Speaker 1: created by quarterbacks by rolling into defensive players. Right, So

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Speaker 1: this is just pressure is allowed by offensive lines. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the team that led the offensive line rather that led

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Speaker 1: the league in number of pressures allow, allowed two hundred

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Speaker 1: and twelve pressures over the course of the year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the lot. I think a guess at how many the

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Speaker 2: On pace on pace?

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Speaker 1: Fifty more than what they allowed all of last year?

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Speaker 2: Are the worst the worst team?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And man, look, I'm very worried because

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Speaker 2: and that that very much concerns me, you know, especially

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Speaker 2: The positive thing, and I'm talking about defensively for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: The good thing about that is is that you're constantly

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Speaker 1: Is by the way, why the Bills also probably lead

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Speaker 2: Quarter right, but then you also get into once you go, Man,

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Speaker 2: it's almost a matchup zone. It's almost a matchup man

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Speaker 2: Which is like it's almost like a false sense of security,

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Speaker 2: then we watched it here the morning of the Giants

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Speaker 2: he's a beast. They have some holes there. I think offensively,

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Speaker 2: they didn't run the football well the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: They couldn't really run it up in London against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna come out because the first two

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Speaker 2: So my thing is with Buffalo, mindset is probably gonna

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Speaker 2: we're not punting the ball because they don't want to punt.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that doesn't want to punt a ball.

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Speaker 2: They want to be explosive on offense, and how do

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Speaker 2: that the Giants have to limit Miami is in the

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Speaker 2: tremendous pass catches they have on outside and Dalston knatsin

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Speaker 1: This is as balance as Buffalo has been offensively, I think,

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Speaker 1: probably since Josh Allen has emerged. Right, You know, they

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Speaker 1: with James Cook, they had been running the ball well

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Speaker 1: to your point, even if they didn't do it well

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Speaker 1: last week against Jacksonville. So it is something to keep

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen JC when he's playing his best football, meaning

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Speaker 1: he has those games, and if that happens Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: anything can happen, We'll see. But when he's that combination

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Speaker 1: is with this combination of running in passing game, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Agree with that, Like you even watch him last year,

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Speaker 2: you take away those takeaways. He is the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: He does everything well. He's run after catch, speed.

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Speaker 3: You name it.

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Speaker 2: And Gabe Davis no slouch either that both of their

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Speaker 2: tight ends are really good. Yea, yeah, you know. So

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Speaker 2: this is a big challenge presented for the Giants defense,

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Speaker 2: which finally got a turnover they got three last week and.

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Speaker 1: Too many big plays though that's just about to say.

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Speaker 2: But you know what it is too. I follow a

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Speaker 2: the things that they were saying after it's like almost

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Speaker 2: they understand that they had a hand in actually doing something,

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Speaker 2: you know, for like the first time collectively as a team.

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Speaker 2: Because the Giants be honest with this, all units have

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Speaker 2: been pretty poor consistently this year, and it sucks. And

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to use my words very carefully here schmil

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Speaker 2: But I don't want them to think that they played well,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because they really didn't, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they give up two hundred and something rushing

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Speaker 2: carry over five hundred and twenty yard total. It's not

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Speaker 2: a good game.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go back rather or later. Today. I'm

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Speaker 1: interviewing Javier McKinney for our pregame show on Sunday. The

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Speaker 1: first question for him is going to be, you know, Xavier,

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Speaker 1: now that you've gone back and you rewatched it and

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Speaker 2: Right, and he wasn't like here in training camp. He

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Speaker 1: All right. Two one nine nine four five one three

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Speaker 1: Who lead us off? Scotty doo? What's up? Pal?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 5: How you're doing today? First of all, yes, yesterday show

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Speaker 5: was great, John, and to your credit, you gave us

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Speaker 5: And that's the kind of impetus I think most Giants

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Speaker 5: I guess of Trey Hawkins covering Tyreek Hill. Is there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wink was not as that specifically. Today he was

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Speaker 1: I believe Wink the quote was a schematic issue. So no,

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Speaker 1: And maybe maybe they thought their players could have just

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Speaker 3: To that question.

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Speaker 5: you couldn't have brought in Dexter Lawrence. And actually, as

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Speaker 1: You can put him and you can put whoever you

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Speaker 5: So why didn't they if you have a suspect out,

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Speaker 5: you know, dex Lawrence is the strongest player I believe

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Speaker 1: I mean, Scott, on those plays they put what was it,

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Speaker 5: But Dexter Lawrence, if he can't move somebody in one yard,

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Speaker 1: Reaching on now in a little bit, Scott, to be

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, my main concern, and I know you

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Speaker 5: you stated, they're not playing well and we know all

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Speaker 5: to block and protect Daniel Shones. And I'll be glad

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Speaker 5: to take your answers off the thank you.

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Speaker 1: Scott, but I'll go to my player there who has

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Speaker 1: been in free aging situations before, and how you know

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Speaker 1: how that process works and then what a player's mindset is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't think a lot

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Speaker 2: of players see it like that, you know, especially because

441
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Speaker 2: every year, you know, there's a lot of optimism coming

442
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Speaker 2: into every year, you know, and you always think that

443
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Speaker 2: you got better. You know, that is always not the case,

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Speaker 2: of course, but I don't really think there was ever

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Speaker 2: a year but like, oh, we're not as good as

446
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Speaker 2: we were last year in the preseason or the off season.

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Speaker 2: You know, it just doesn't happen. And the Giants will

448
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Speaker 2: get better, you know, hopefully they get better sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: But I think they will improve by year's end, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I think that has to do a lot with

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Speaker 2: the culture that they established here. And I know it's

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Speaker 2: rough right now, because once you're losing, and you've you've

453
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Speaker 2: losed consistently in the way that the Giants losing hurts

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Speaker 2: the morale of every single person in the locker room,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I know the locker room was probably

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Speaker 2: not as enthusiastic as it was in early this year

457
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Speaker 2: or in twenty twenty two, and that that's rough, you know.

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Speaker 2: But you know, all of these guys, no matter who

459
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Speaker 2: we talk about, what position, every single player wants to

460
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Speaker 2: play in this league for extensive period of time, you know.

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Speaker 2: And usually the guys that don't want to play that

462
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Speaker 2: long and they have, you know, they don't play in

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Speaker 2: the league. You know. I know guys like that, you know,

464
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Speaker 2: I know guys that didn't really like football and got

465
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Speaker 2: into the league and said I'm good, you know, and

466
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Speaker 2: they get out. I don't think there's like that on

467
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Speaker 2: his team, you know. So a person like Xavier McKinney,

468
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Speaker 2: he would love to stay here, you know, and he

469
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Speaker 2: would love to be one of the reasons that the

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Speaker 2: Giants bounce back.

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Speaker 1: And I actually do think he has played fairly well

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't think he's been a big part

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Speaker 1: of the problem here.

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Speaker 2: No, no, definitely not. And of course, say Kwon Barkley,

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Speaker 2: I think he wants to stay a Giant. He said

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Speaker 2: it in the past, and of course him being hurt

477
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Speaker 2: right now puts that at jeopardy and the Giants do

478
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Speaker 2: have to figure that out. That's that's gonna be another

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Speaker 2: talking point no matter how the rest of this year goes,

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Speaker 2: because he's missed the time that he's missed, no matter

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Speaker 2: what he does for the rest of the year, how

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Speaker 2: productive is he, how productive he is. Hopefully he doesn't

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Speaker 2: get hurt again, Hopefully he can play for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the year. The talking point after this season is

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Speaker 2: what they're gonna do with Saquan. That's gonna be one

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Speaker 2: of the main talking points.

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Speaker 1: It is, and I think how the rest of the

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Speaker 1: season goes is going to dictate and this is even

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Speaker 1: the Saquan specifically, but in general, what their offseason posture

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Speaker 1: is going to be here jac is going to be

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Speaker 1: determined by how the rest of the season goes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, even if they start as poorly as they have,

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Speaker 1: if they finish winning seven to nine or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and you know, with seven or eight wins and once

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Speaker 1: everyone gets healthy, this team looks like what we thought

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Speaker 1: they were going to look like at the start of

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Speaker 1: the year, then I think it's a different conversation. If

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Speaker 1: we get to the end of the year and you're

499
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Speaker 1: staring at a top five draft pick and you're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well maybe this is more of a you know,

501
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Speaker 1: down to the studs situation, then I think your your

502
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Speaker 1: plans change a little bit. So I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: really I think having those conversations now, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think we have enough information to really, you know, make

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Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing, fellows? Guys?

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, we're good man. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I just want to talk a little about the offensive

534
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Speaker 8: line and how you know, we all have to be

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Speaker 8: patient with it. It's tough because we're all looking for

536
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Speaker 8: that instant success, but you know, when you're passing and playing,

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Speaker 8: it's going to take more more time.

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Speaker 6: And that's what their.

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Speaker 8: Experience and experience. A bunch of guys were going in

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Speaker 8: and out. There's no stability there. And until we have

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Speaker 8: some stability on that offensive line, we're going to struggle, unfortunately.

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Speaker 8: And I just want to hear your thoughts about that.

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Speaker 8: And then the second thing and then I'll close, is

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Speaker 8: if you notice the time that Tyreek Hill scored on

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Speaker 8: that touchdown the rookie there. I think it's Jackson thirty

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Speaker 8: seven the last second hawk yep, yeah, Hawks. Hawkins went

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Speaker 8: from from the bottom of the screen to the top

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Speaker 8: of the screen to sprint to Tyreek Hill. He was

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Speaker 8: probably a one to two seconds and then the play occurred,

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Speaker 8: and I don't know if he needed over the what

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Speaker 8: he needed over the top help from Xavier. I don't

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Speaker 8: know if that was Exavier's fault that he wasn't there

553
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Speaker 8: because he was beat by about five yards on that path.

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Speaker 8: I just wanted to hear your thoughts on that, and

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Speaker 8: I'll hang up and you guys have a going.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Erge Jesse. Why don't you take time?

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Speaker 2: Uh, when we talk about the offensive line, I mean,

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Speaker 2: patients is the key for sure. And you know they

559
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Speaker 2: got two practice guy, two practice squad guys playing on

560
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Speaker 2: the line that already was porous before they were playing already,

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Speaker 2: you know. And uh, definitely be patient.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the more your patient you are, the better

563
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Speaker 1: chance that your quarterbacks have of getting continually pounded, which

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Speaker 1: is a problem. Yeah, it's that's why it's hard to

565
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Speaker 1: be patient, because its everything else.

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Speaker 2: It's it's rough. It's rough. And then like everybody watches

567
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Speaker 2: all the film, like it's not like you're gonna surprise defenses.

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Speaker 2: You know, they know the weakest link right now on

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Speaker 2: the offense, you know, and they're gonna have I mean,

570
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Speaker 2: they don't even have to have like stunts. They could

571
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Speaker 2: just they're just beating the guys, you know, and paying

572
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Speaker 2: quickly too. Yeah, and and that's it's rough. It's rough.

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Speaker 2: It's really rough to watch, you know. And and with

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Speaker 2: Collins Lyell Collins was here, do we let them out

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Speaker 2: the building?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't even know how healthy is at

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Speaker 1: this point. Remember he also towards a clat.

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Speaker 2: Year, So I thought about that just now when I

579
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Speaker 2: was talking. It's it's hard, guys, It's it's frustrating to watch.

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Speaker 2: It's it's we feel it too, you know. And and

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Speaker 2: the Giants feel it too, of course, the quarterbacks feel it,

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Speaker 2: you know. So it's just something that the Giants need

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Speaker 2: to figure out because if they can't improve from what

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Speaker 2: they've been putting out the last few weeks, it's it's

585
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Speaker 2: gonna keep continue going this way, like like there's nobody

586
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Speaker 2: that gonna be like, Okay, we're not gonna abuse these

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Speaker 2: guys because the offensive line this week, They're gonna keep

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Speaker 2: doing it, you know. So it's definitely gonna get worse.

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Speaker 1: What was the second question he had a question, and

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Speaker 1: he's mentioned something about Hawkins with.

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Speaker 2: The coming laid over and then Xavier McKinney. I don't

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Speaker 2: really know, like they won't divulge that information to us.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know. I think something happened where either

594
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Speaker 2: he was doing the wrong thing or somebody didn't help

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Speaker 2: him out.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't know what it was.

597
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Speaker 1: There was some kind of issue do.

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Speaker 2: I think it was probably the second part and.

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Speaker 1: They were matching up at that point. A Dory had

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Speaker 1: had Tyreek Hill most of the game banks at Jalen

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Speaker 1: Waddle and the Dory wasn't on the field for that

602
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Speaker 1: particular snap because I think he was either getting a

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Speaker 1: restoor or something like that, so or maybe he was

604
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Speaker 1: momentarily banged up, whatever the case might have been. So

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Speaker 1: you know, Hawkins I think was trying to locate Hill.

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Speaker 1: That's why he was late going over there. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like a left and right situation. So just something to

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Speaker 1: keep in mind. And this brings up a point from

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Speaker 1: yesterday's show about the offensive line. Somebody called up and said,

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Speaker 1: you know why they let Nick Gates go? I think

611
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Speaker 1: that was a big mistake. And we talked about how

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Speaker 1: well you all he did get a decent contract, which

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Speaker 1: we're all happy to see. And then William Broderick wrote

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Speaker 1: in talked about how well the Giants did sign J. C.

615
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Hassenhauer from the Steelers. That was something they thought could

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Speaker 1: help as a you know, true center backup. Then he

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Speaker 1: goes and tears his triceps. Front officers is always up

618
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Speaker 1: against it. This is be ringing the email of where

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Speaker 1: they want to allocate money. You know, gms have like

620
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Speaker 1: a sixty percent hit rate, and at some point did

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Speaker 1: the Giants have to catch some type of break here

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Speaker 1: in terms of injuries? And then he just kind of

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Speaker 1: goes on and says, you know, is is it any

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Speaker 1: surprise that that Daniel Jones looks a little show shocked

625
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Speaker 1: back there? Who wouldn't be. So it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you try to mac? Can you max protect

627
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Speaker 1: on every play? But then that takes receivers out of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, just kind of what are your answers here

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Speaker 1: as you try to move forward? And I think the

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Speaker 1: point we're making that there aren't always the end. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just kind is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're trying to figure out the right combination

633
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Speaker 2: of offensive linemen, you know, and yeah, the.

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Speaker 1: Problem is that guys he can't hurt, so they really

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Speaker 1: can't stick with one.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's it sucks man when we see guys

637
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: go down from a you know, like I said, already

638
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: a porous line which we haven't played, you know, well

639
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: this year at all, and then you see more guys

640
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Speaker 2: go down, and then you're in certain practice squad players

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Speaker 2: who just got signed to the practice squad not before,

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Speaker 2: not long before they started playing. The Giants are in

643
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: a dire situation. You know, it's a very rough situation.

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: And when you when you when you can't protect and

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00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 2: you can't push guys off the ball to run a football,

646
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: like you're seeing what happens like, this is what happens

647
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: when you can't protect your quarterback, you can't get a

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Speaker 2: push to run a football. This is what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to find one thing jac that they can

650
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: hang their hat on offensively and say, all right, we

651
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: know we can do this. Then once the other team

652
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: tries to stop that, maybe that opens up something else.

653
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: The problem is that they haven't even been able to

654
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: find that one thing where you can say, all right,

655
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: we know we can do this well with the way

656
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: the offense is functioning right now.

657
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they cannot say that like you saying that

658
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: right now, I'm like, no, they can't, because they don't

659
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: they they right now they can't do anything well right now.

660
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: You know, they do have to figure that out. I

661
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: agree with you. They and it's it's really tough to watch,

662
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: you know. But I'm not going to say I trust

663
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: in them because and I'm talking about the coaches and

664
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: the players, because it's not all about what they have

665
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: and what they could do, because that could change because

666
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: of injury.

667
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: It's a matter of disposal.

668
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: Right at the time. Because you start a game with

669
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: the five Okay, cool, we saw the last few weeks. Yeah,

670
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: you started game to five and then okay, and then

671
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: people get hurt.

672
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: First drive John Michael Schmid's out of the game two

673
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago, so.

674
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: It's like that's that's the game though, And you know,

675
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: the Giants have to figure out, you know, what they're

676
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: going to do moving forward on the offensive line. And

677
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: then also once somebody goes down with somebody will go down,

678
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: you know who they're going to insert in. And I

679
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they have to consider doing a different

680
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: approach to how they're trying to block plays, you know,

681
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: And and I don't I don't know, man, this is

682
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: a this is really unfamiliar territory for me because like that,

683
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: the amount of injuries that happen among the offensive line

684
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: is absurd. You know, I don't know if I've ever

685
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: been a part of any franchise that was like that

686
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: from high school all the way through through college, I

687
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: mean through through the NFL. And it's rough.

688
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: It is all right, Let's go to hey Dom, do

689
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: me if they ever pick up Charlie and Len both

690
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: of them have called in already once this week. We're

691
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: on our one caller a week. Things. Don't want to

692
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: make sure you give other people a chance to get in,

693
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: so just let them know that, and we'd love to

694
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: hear from him next week. Again. I'm just trying to

695
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: keep the lines free for other callers. Okay, let's go

696
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: to Alex and Syracuse's up next, Alex. What's going on? Pal?

697
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: Not much?

698
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: I guys doing today. We're doing great, all right, Always

699
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 4: glad to help bump. Charlie always a fan of Oh

700
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: we love I'm just kidding I and he keeps it interesting.

701
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 4: Uh thanks to RJ. He kind of took my point

702
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: about the offensive line, so that gets.

703
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: That out of the way.

704
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: But I agree, man, like, I think patience is obviously

705
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 4: hard in this situation, but I do think that there's

706
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: reason to be optimistic that and I think, like you said,

707
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: ye like, I think by the end of the year,

708
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna see some improvement there, and I think hopefully

709
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: going into next year, even more improvement. I think injuries

710
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: have been really difficult for us, But I got one

711
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: point in one quick question. My point is I'm a

712
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: big DJ guy. Obviously, it's awful that he's hurt and

713
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: he's been getting hit as much as he is, but

714
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm also a little excited about the idea that maybe

715
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: we get to see Tyrod Taylor.

716
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: Play this weekend.

717
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: I'm a big Tyrod guys and back in Buffalo. I

718
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: think I actually think he's still kind of underrated, that

719
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: he's had some success in the league. I'm a really

720
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: big fan of his, and I actually think that sometimes

721
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: in a situation like we have right now on one

722
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: and four team, you get a guy like Tyrod coming in,

723
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: maybe that could be the kind of new spark that

724
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: helps ignite something, right. I mean, I don't know if

725
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: it will be, but I like Tyrod a lot. I

726
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: have a lot of faith in that guy, and I

727
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: hope for Daniels take on some level at least for

728
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: this week. And also if he's gonna come in and play,

729
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: where better than to go back to Buffalo? And I

730
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: think that there's something interesting about that storyline. So I'd

731
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: love to see Tyrod play this week personally, and I hope,

732
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: I hope you can have some success. And my question,

733
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: I'll take both these.

734
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 6: Off the air.

735
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: My question for you guys is specifically, uh, for for JC,

736
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: one thing I've noticed, and again this is me reading

737
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: between the lines a little bit here, but when you

738
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: watch the interviews with these guys postgame and midweek, it

739
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: seems like there's a little bit of the fun and

740
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: the spark that they had last year. And again, of

741
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: course they were winning last year, but it wasn't easy

742
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 4: saleing last year, and it just seemed like they they

743
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: had this sort of like they were having more fun

744
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: through it. And even in the beginning of the season,

745
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: before before the losses happened and then and hopes were high,

746
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: I didn't quite see that same level of enthusiasm and fun.

747
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: And obviously now you're one and four and you're you're

748
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: where you're at. So my question for you JC is

749
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: is you know, how do you how do you cultivate

750
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: that and how do you how do you get that back?

751
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: Especially now given given where they are in the season,

752
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: is there a way, what is the kind of spark

753
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: that's needed to kind of reignite that and then to

754
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: get that back in the locker room.

755
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: You gotta win.

756
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: Win.

757
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Winning's fun, Yeah, winning is very fun. Losing is not

758
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: good at all, you know. I remember my days in

759
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: Tampa where we were like one and six to start

760
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: the season. I'm a guy who hates losing, and I

761
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: was miserable. I will go home and have an attitude.

762
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: I will be upset when I in the post game,

763
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: you know, like, and it would mess up my week,

764
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: not just like the day the game day, Like I

765
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: was like that, you know. And and I'm pretty sure

766
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: a lot of guys are similar to how I was

767
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: when I played, because people care about what they're doing.

768
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: You know.

769
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: People care that their family's watching, their fans are watching,

770
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, their friends are watching. And it's rough, you know,

771
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: and you want to put a good product out there.

772
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: You want to play well. You want your team to

773
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: play well, you know, and when you're not, it's hard

774
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: to keep that same type of positive, enthusiastic energy. It's

775
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: just I mean it's almost impossible to do, you know.

776
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: But once they win, you know, the locker room will

777
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: be happy. You know, and then the week a little

778
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: be a little bit better. You know, they can tie

779
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: another win in there, and then it'll start getting a

780
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: little bit better, you know. But they until they win,

781
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like this. This is how it's gonna be.

782
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: You can't you can't. You can't put a spark in

783
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: a losing like a team that's losing consistently. You can't

784
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: be like, all right, guys, let's get fired up, like

785
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: it's just not gonna happen.

786
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to his other point on the quarterbacks,

787
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I think mentally for Daniel let alone, physically,

788
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: we golf might not be the worst thing at this point. Yeah,

789
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: we kind of reset the mind. You know, you get back,

790
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: try to be comfortable again, because what he's been through

791
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. And this goes back to

792
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: the email that we got. It's just that, you know,

793
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: you go out there every week and you just keep

794
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: getting hit again and again and again. It's gonna leak

795
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: into your subconscious that and your internal clock's gonna speed up.

796
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. Maybe a game where

797
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: you sit there and you're like, all right, I gotta

798
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: get everything straight here. I gotta watch, I gotta figure

799
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: it out. Maybe when you come back, you'll feel a

800
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: little bit better about what's going on around you. And

801
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: then I know you're a big Tyrod Taylor fan too.

802
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I know you're pretty psyched to see him play as well.

803
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know, I just if he we don't

804
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: know who's right. I just hope that they can protect them.

805
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: You know that that's it. Because Tyrod, I don't think

806
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: he's as durable as Daniel Jones. Like I said, I

807
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: said this before, Daniel Jones is one of the most

808
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: durable players, not just quarterbacks in the NFL. The amount

809
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: of ticks, the hits he take on in every single

810
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: week consistently is absurd. I think he's absurd.

811
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Uh.

812
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: He does it to himself sometimes and then sometimes he

813
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: can't control it. You know, he's getting hit from behind.

814
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: Uh pause, and you know he can't do certain things

815
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: in the pocket. He can't see certain blitzes. That first

816
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: Witherspoon Blitzer couldn't see that one, you know. But then

817
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't protect himself when he runs the ball, and

818
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: he just keep getting up, keep getting up, keeping up.

819
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: But it just can't it accumulates too.

820
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: A smaller guy, yeah, he's not as big.

821
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Daniel Jones is a big human being. He's

822
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 2: six six probably two thirty thirty five and he's all

823
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: of you know that that height end Tyrod's you know,

824
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: maybe six foot possibly maybe two hundred even, you know,

825
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: not a big guy. And you know it's they have

826
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: to protect them and if not, you're gonna see what

827
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: you saw from Tyrod last week, which he got in

828
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: the game and ran around, which he can do. But again,

829
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: once you run around, that kind of takes away that

830
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: pocket protection that you have, and the guys they will

831
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: take shots on you.

832
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 6: You know.

833
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: I think Tyrod does a better job and sliding, better

834
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: job and getting out of bounds than Daniel Jones did.

835
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: So hopefully he can protect himself once he escapes the

836
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: pocket and you know, tries to create some things on

837
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: his own, you know. But uh, yes, if he plays

838
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: and Daniel Jones doesn't go, I'll be excited, you know.

839
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: And if Daniel Jones does go, I'll be excited too.

840
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: But I like what you said, you know, maybe this

841
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: is a time for him not only get right physically,

842
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: you know, and take a week off and have a

843
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: physical break, but also I meant to break as well.

844
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: He's had a tough you know, few weeks to start

845
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: the season.

846
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, two, one nine, five, one three. Let's go back

847
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: to the phone and say what's up to five in Union,

848
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey. What's up, fav, How.

849
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 9: We're doing, guys?

850
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: What's up? You know? One?

851
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 9: I want to say thank you to Charlie for knocketing

852
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 9: on the line today. I'm going to missus ramp, but

853
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 9: I'll look forward to.

854
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: It next time.

855
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: And by the way, Fabio, this this is the second

856
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: straight day he has tried to break the one call

857
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: a week policy, so he is initially on warning, trolley,

858
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: do not try again. Doms all over, Dom's on it.

859
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 9: Well, guys, I want to talk about the offensive and

860
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 9: defensive line. And you know, jac I know you definitely

861
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 9: have a lot of experience with this in practice, right, Like,

862
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously it sucks to have injuries, right, but

863
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 9: they say iron tripen's iron, right, and I feel like

864
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 9: right now, with these injuries, it's been tough, right, we

865
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 9: don't have the iron in there. We have you know whatever,

866
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 9: it might be the bronze, right, these these guys might

867
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 9: not be the best, So how much does that affect

868
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 9: the defensive line when they're trying to go against them

869
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 9: in practice? You know, Squad one going to get squad one.

870
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 6: And I'm happy.

871
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 9: Tibodeau is starting to get there and he's starting to

872
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 9: get some stacks now, right, But the rest of these

873
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 9: guys really seem like they're having a difficult time getting

874
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 9: past the offensive lines of these other teams. And I'm

875
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 9: wondering how much of it is that they're not going

876
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 9: against the top guys on our squad and we don't

877
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 9: really have that talent in there to really make them,

878
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 9: you know, push them to the to the point where

879
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 9: they're getting into the games.

880
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: And it always feels, you know level.

881
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: That's a great question, and I think that's why people consider, uh,

882
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: like the offensive line that five, that group of five,

883
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: than the starters. Right, They're one of the most integral

884
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: parts of a team because, yes, you protecting quarterback, you're

885
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: establishing run game, you're you're communicator as well, and in

886
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: the front of the defense that you're going against. But

887
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: then also in practice, you know, you're going against your

888
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: defensive linemen and they do do good on good here,

889
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: you know, not that much, but they do do good

890
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: on good and you always hear it from younger players

891
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: when they come in.

892
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, what can this means by that

893
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: is the ones goal against the ones?

894
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and you always hear this from younger players or

895
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: players that is going against a very talented all pro

896
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: type of player. They always say, Man, I'm going against

897
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: that guy a practice and he makes me better, you know.

898
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: So I hear your question, and like I said, that's

899
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: why offensive line is so important because it's not only

900
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: about what they're doing offensively against other teams, but also

901
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: if you have a great offensive line, like let's call

902
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: San fran with Trent Williams. Trent Williams is going against

903
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: Drake Jackson, He's going against both. You know, he's going

904
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: against those guys. These literally all pro players going against

905
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: each other. So when you have another guy that comes

906
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: in and rushes against them, they're gonna get an All

907
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Pro player and they have to be able to have

908
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: the skills set to beat that player. So, yes, this

909
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: is that's why the offensive line needs to improve because

910
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: it has such more of an impact than what you

911
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: guys see on Sundays. That was a fantastic question.

912
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 9: So, I mean it's affecting both sides of the ball

913
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 9: at this point.

914
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Yes, not as much, not as much, not as much,

915
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: but yes, yes.

916
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate the.

917
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah yeah.

918
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 9: And and I mean to the point with the offensive

919
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 9: line and putting them in positions for success. I mean,

920
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know how much DJ has really

921
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 9: progressed with this in his career. I mean we still feel,

922
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 9: I still feel like day in or week in, week out,

923
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 9: we see you know, these miss assignments on the on

924
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 9: the offensive line, and maybe it's really you know, pinning it.

925
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 9: Not not fair to Evan Neil, right, He's under a

926
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 9: lot of pressure at this point, but it feels like

927
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 9: every other week he's just flat out missing a guy

928
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 9: on the edge, right, and he's just going inside and

929
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 9: he's blocking no one or you know, even blocking it,

930
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 9: just shoving his own other a lignement in the back.

931
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: I mean, is that is that on DJ? There is

932
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: that on Neil?

933
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 9: And you know, is this something where if Tyrod does

934
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 9: play this next week, you know, being the proven vet

935
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 9: that he that he has been for the last what

936
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 9: ten plus years, that this is something where he might

937
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 9: actually be able to really you know, help the team

938
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 9: be set up for success there.

939
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Flave good another really good question

940
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: by the way, excellent call. And Tony don't you actually

941
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: talks about this on Johnsontle podcast that that just went

942
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: up today and he talked about that it was very underrated,

943
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: how getting that was pretty good so on, and he

944
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: talked about how the chemistry with an offensive line in

945
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: terms of doing stuff like that can be very underrated

946
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: JC where passing off stunts right, communicating those protections inside out,

947
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: understanding pre snap, who has what guy right? For example,

948
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: and that Evan the oput that he's talking about. He

949
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: thought he had the butzing linebacker, but he didn't have

950
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: to get the butzing linebacker. The guard could have taken him.

951
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: He should have taken the outside guy right. But is

952
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: that like a bad mic identification pre snap by the

953
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: center because John Michael Schmidz isn't there is it? They

954
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: identified it right, but they just heard it wrong on

955
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: the outside. Like there's a million different things that can happen,

956
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: especially when you're not that familiar with the guy next

957
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: to you. That can make a situation where even if

958
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: you're out manned, you're not used to working together, it

959
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: can make things even worse.

960
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, And I'm not making any excuses, but you

961
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: just don't know exactly what happened on that play, no

962
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: no idea. Yep. I'm gonna put it on him though,

963
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: because he's a defensive lineman. That was just free, you know.

964
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: But you I really don't know. But like I really

965
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm just gonna blame him because you know,

966
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: he's been getting too much heat and I'm not gonna

967
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: not give him heat. I'm giving heat too, you know.

968
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: He was like, I want to lay off of them, No,

969
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: keep on, because he has to play better. He has

970
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: to play better. He has to play But he's one

971
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: of the only guys that's healthy from the beginning of

972
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: the year that's playing his natural position, the position that's correct,

973
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: you know. So he definitely has to play better, and

974
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, I think he will. He has to, you know,

975
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: because if he doesn't play well, they're gonna move him.

976
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: Like.

977
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: He has to play better, And we talked about this before.

978
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: They're not gonna do it anytime soon, but if he continues,

979
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna move him like because they he has to

980
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: play better. Like the tackle positions, they are very difficult

981
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: positions to play. And I speak about this every week

982
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: because they're going against the greatest I think athletes in

983
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: the world, and those pass rushers, defensive ends, linebackers, stand

984
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: up guys, and they gotta get those corner blitzes, those

985
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: linebacker blitzers off the edge. Sure, so he has to

986
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: play better because he's protecting the most valuable commodity in

987
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: the whole New York Giants organization and Daniel Jones. So

988
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: he has to play better. So I'm not gonna let

989
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: him off the hook. But the offensive line together, they

990
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: have to step up, like for real, whoever's out there,

991
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: they had to step up. Coach Johnson has to step up.

992
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: They have to play better because the Giants will not

993
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: be able to do anything against any team if this

994
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: offensive line cannot improve, it just can't. Like you know,

995
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: people thinking, oh, after the Buffalo it gets a little easier,

996
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't get easier, not for.

997
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: The lines now the overall Like you're not facing Josh

998
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: Allen again. But guess what, the Washington and Jet defensive lines,

999
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, better than Buffalo. They're better than Miami's,

1000
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: they're better than Seattle's.

1001
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't get better, you know. I mean it's up front,

1002
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't know And then you talk about, you know,

1003
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: the part of the offense is going to be the

1004
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: part of the Giants team that needs to improve. That's

1005
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: the strengths of the other teams that we're going to

1006
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: play after the Bills. Like you said, the defensive line

1007
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: for the Commanders very tough, very strong. And then following

1008
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: week you got Quinn Williams. You got like, there's dogs, bro.

1009
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: They have like six dudes. It's like not even just forties,

1010
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: it's like six dudes.

1011
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1012
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 2: So it's it's not going to get any easier. It's

1013
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: not going to be like, all right now, we're gonna

1014
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: hit an easy stretch of the season. It's not gonna

1015
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: be like that, you know. So the offense needs to improve,

1016
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: the offensive line and needs to improve. And I think

1017
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: if they do improve, you're gonna start seeing signs of

1018
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: what we think the potential of this team could possibly do.

1019
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: Because I think that that's the weakest part right now

1020
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: the Giants, and it's a collective effort. It's not just

1021
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: on the individuals on the offensive line. I think it

1022
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: has to do with coaching, It has to do with

1023
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: play calling, and it has to do with Daniel Jones' performance,

1024
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: has to do with Tyrod Taylor if he's playing to Una.

1025
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: All of those things combined. You know, I'm not gonna

1026
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: put it on one guy because it's not just absolutely

1027
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: and then also defense too. I put it on the defense.

1028
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Last week, they came up with three turnovers, they scored

1029
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: a defensive touchdown. I think they they stepped up in

1030
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: the way. They made plays, and they caught the ball,

1031
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: they didn't drop the ball, you know, and they made plays.

1032
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: But then they got to take another step forward because

1033
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: they can't allow Buffalo to go up and down the

1034
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: field like they allow Miami to go up and down

1035
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: the field, because they're just as explosive.

1036
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: I got three more calls. I got a couple of emails.

1037
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I want to get to them. So let's get to it.

1038
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eric in Upstate New York. I want

1039
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: to stick on the offensive linecause he wants to touch

1040
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: on that topic. Here Dom online one Eric, what's up.

1041
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 7: Hi, guys, one time listener, first time caller, loved the show.

1042
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, what's up?

1043
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 7: Yeah? So I had a couple questions about the injuries

1044
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 7: with John Michael Schmidt and Andrew Thomas. It's like we hear,

1045
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 7: you know, every week, their day to day or they're

1046
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 7: not getting better. But what do we know the extent

1047
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 7: of for example, John Michael Schmidt's injury, because all we

1048
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 7: know is a shoulder.

1049
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: That's all we know. Michael Schiz, we don't know, and

1050
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: they do not give those details out.

1051
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 7: Oh it's so frustrating.

1052
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: Now I can tell you Andrew Thomas is a bad

1053
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: hamstring pull. I mean that would be so that one

1054
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: is not a mystery. It's just a bad hamstring And

1055
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: should we.

1056
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 7: Be concerned about that? Like is this something that we

1057
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 7: might not see him for before the buy for example?

1058
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean the buye is another of what month and

1059
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: a half? At this point, I don't know him. Look

1060
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: a really bad hamstering jac you can attest to this

1061
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: can be up to six weeks, that's just the way

1062
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: it goes like. It can be six to eight. But

1063
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: it's a little different an offensive lineman versus like a

1064
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: corner or wide receiver too, So I would hope we

1065
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: would see him before the buye. Eric, But you know,

1066
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at MRI Machines. I'm not talking to trainers,

1067
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, and if I did, they wouldn't tell me.

1068
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: And I can say it on the show anyway, but

1069
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean.

1070
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: You don't and then not great and then also too

1071
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: like once they start, you're not going to get anything

1072
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: from day Ball, Like that's it. Once somebody gets hurt,

1073
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: just be like all right, we'll just wait till he

1074
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: comes back.

1075
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: Knee day to day, knee week.

1076
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, day Ball is not going to give guys anything.

1077
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: That's just how he does business.

1078
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: That is where how it is, that's where he's come from,

1079
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: NGO in the Alabama, et cetera.

1080
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: He's just not going to give you, guys. So it

1081
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: leaves us to speculate, you know, which we're not going

1082
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: to really do too much of.

1083
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: He is it useless?

1084
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want to guess even though like, yes,

1085
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: I know, like I can see somebody get hurt and

1086
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: I could say, oh, that's an a c L. Oh,

1087
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: that's an m c L right, but who knows how

1088
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: long that takes? Yeah, those are varying, right, varying things, right.

1089
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the one thing. It's you listen and he's

1090
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 7: just so stoic there, same answer every every week. Uh,

1091
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 7: day to day or he's getting better or he's not.

1092
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's rough, it's rough.

1093
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: It is a good stuff. All right, Let's go to

1094
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: David in Michigan. He's been holding the longest. David, what's up?

1095
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thanks a lot. You have done a really

1096
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 3: good job the last week of talking me off the ledge, right,

1097
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: and I'll be I know you guys disagree, and I

1098
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: know all disagrees with this, but the only difference between

1099
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: one and sixteen and like six and eleven to me

1100
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: is a lower draft pick. Like I don't care if

1101
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: you go six. You know, if we win six games

1102
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: is correctly, I don't see it's winning six games.

1103
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: So but on the injuries and by the way, and

1104
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: by the way, just real quick, as a fan, as

1105
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: someone that rooted for the New York Knicks for a

1106
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: very long time, I completely understand the way you look

1107
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: at it from a fan perspective, because I, as someone

1108
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: that rooted for the next I'm like, guys, don't win

1109
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven games, just win fifteen games. You get the

1110
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: best odds in the lottery. I was sitting there and

1111
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. Didn't so I totally understand what

1112
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: you're coming from. But with the competitive inside a building

1113
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: with a football team, that's not And Jason, you can

1114
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: speak to this as a player, that's not how the

1115
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: front office, to coaching staff, the players, and ownership, anyone

1116
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: in the building is going to look at it. So

1117
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: so there are definitely two ways to see it.

1118
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: I get that the team and the organization is going

1119
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: to go out and try to win every game.

1120
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: I get that.

1121
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: It's fine. I'm not suggesting he tanks. I'm just saying

1122
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: I don't care. We're not gonna make We're not gonna

1123
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 3: make the playoffs. I just want to hire a graphics David.

1124
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I I totally get it. But at the

1125
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: same time, you do want the younger players on your

1126
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: team showing they're getting better. And if you get that,

1127
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing though, if that happens, you're probably gonna

1128
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: get more wins out of it. So I would almost

1129
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: I want my young guys to show they are getting better,

1130
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: Like if they win two more games, but it's because

1131
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: Evan Neils turned the corner and he shows them a

1132
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: good offensive tackle, Well guess what give me the wins?

1133
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? So I have a question

1134
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: for Jonathan, because you know you're you're the athlete you

1135
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: have played on on these on these fields and the turfs.

1136
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out two things. One is, are

1137
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: the complaints about the turf legit. I've never walked or

1138
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 3: run on this kind of turf before, Jonathan. And I'm guessing,

1139
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: even if it's just lately, and even as a retired player,

1140
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: you've been on that turf, and you know, like based

1141
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: on your body, like whether it's how it feels, and

1142
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: and you must have an opinion about whether this kind

1143
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: of turf is harmful to the players. And that's the

1144
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: first question. The second question I have I did. I

1145
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: cannot figure out why the players to take you the

1146
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: offensive lineman over the last several years have have been injury,

1147
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: you know, kind of injury pro I did a random

1148
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: check of players that I just thought in the past

1149
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: I remember being super durable and so you know, I

1150
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: looked at David Dial for example. I mean, this guy

1151
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: played the equivalent of like eight seasons without missing a games.

1152
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 3: George Martin, going back further, my one of my favorite

1153
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: nights ever, George Martin played the equivalent get ready for

1154
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: this as a defensive end he played ten season without

1155
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: missing a game, Like, what is the difference today between

1156
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: a on the turf? Because I did play one on

1157
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: the old Giant Stadium and that's that field.

1158
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: Was like, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, that concrete.

1159
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: Carpet.

1160
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: Because I played on a high school team we were

1161
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: very good, so we got to play in the old

1162
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: Giants stadium. One. But I'm Jonathan, help me out here.

1163
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: What is it today versus then where players are just

1164
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 3: not as durable as they used to be. And secondly,

1165
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: please give me some insight about whether this turf issue

1166
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: is a real singer.

1167
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call.

1168
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll talk about the turf first. So, uh, turf, definitely,

1169
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: it's a little bit harder. It's a lot more rigid

1170
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: than grass with dirt underneath it.

1171
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: Hey, what the new stuff is pretty soft though, Like

1172
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: when I go out there and walk and I run

1173
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: on it just when I'm exercising afterwards, like you would

1174
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: like areas, and it's like you almost bounce.

1175
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a little more solid. There's not that

1176
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: much give, and you do feel it in your joints

1177
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: that you do feel it, especially like you know consistently

1178
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: and I remember in New Orleans, right, and this is

1179
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 2: my first Like in Wisconsin, we were all when I

1180
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: went to college, it was all turf, all turf, all

1181
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: indoor practice, no grass. It was all turf. And I

1182
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: got to New Orleans and we had an indoor with turf.

1183
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: Of course, the stadium is turf, but we had practice

1184
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: fields that were grass just like here. Basically, we just

1185
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 2: like here, and we would be outside and you could

1186
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: hear from the vets, oh man, thank you, outside my knees.

1187
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: And then as I started playing, I'm like, man, I

1188
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: can feel the difference just by the consistent pounding, pounding,

1189
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: because just what you're doing when you're playing football and basketball,

1190
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: any sport you're doing, you're pounding your joints. You're founding

1191
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: your knees, your low back is constant. Cutting is constant.

1192
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: That and that I think that accumulates over time. But

1193
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: my worst lower body injury happened on grass. I tore

1194
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: my list Frank against the Tennessee Titans on grass. Really,

1195
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: you know, so it's just like.

1196
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Oldonald broke his leg and towards ACL do you know

1197
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: what that was on? It was on grass.

1198
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb was in grass too, you know what I mean, yeah, things,

1199
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: things happened, just football. And as far as the durability thing,

1200
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: I do think that guys back in the day were

1201
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: a little bit more durable than guys now, you know.

1202
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: And I throw myself in that loop because I wasn't

1203
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: durable when I played my.

1204
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: Theory on the whole thing. Here's my theory on the

1205
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: whole thing, and Howard kind of AGGRESI with, which kind

1206
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: of makes me a little bit scared. But here's my

1207
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: theory on the thing. Guys now train so much more

1208
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: to be high performance athletes than they did before. Right

1209
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: where guys are running faster, jumping higher, they're stronger. I mean,

1210
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: just look at Saquon's legth like guys that look like that.

1211
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago, fim weights, they're they're they're blowing up

1212
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: their muscles.

1213
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: Right, and I think their tendons and ligaments can handle

1214
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: all those explosive actions. So the guys back then, you know,

1215
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: maybe they're not going quite as fast, maybe they're not

1216
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: exploding the way they did. Now some of the guys did.

1217
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: This isn't I think I think that's fair.

1218
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: And maybe the though the soft and it's not the

1219
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: soft tissue, it's the connecting tissue, the ligaments and the

1220
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: tendons can't handle the extra force from all the high

1221
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: performance training. So while the guys are quote unquote in

1222
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: better shape, that are shaped to perform at a higher level,

1223
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: but maybe not in better shape to perform for a

1224
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: longer period of time and staying healthy. Like even go

1225
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: back back in the day you watch the Olympics, all

1226
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: these guys that are sprinters and stuff, they're always getting hamstrings,

1227
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: They're always getting little nicks and things like that. And

1228
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of my theory on why maybe guys run

1229
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: into some worship.

1230
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a fair analysis. You know,

1231
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: because I was a guy who was a weight room guy.

1232
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: I was a guy who I had to be because

1233
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: I was a lighter guy. I'm not a big dude

1234
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: playing linebacker, but I was always in the weight room always,

1235
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, benching, lifting squat and doing all that stuff.

1236
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 2: And I was hurt my entire career.

1237
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: So the day these giant guys they were playing like

1238
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: pick up basketball.

1239
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: Leagues in the right, smoking cigarettes, it was it was

1240
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 2: just different.

1241
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: They were they were more like regular guys that were

1242
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: really gifted athletically playing a sport and.

1243
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: Season, but they would lift, they would train, but not

1244
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: like but it was much.

1245
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: More recovery in the offseason I think than you have

1246
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: now to right, they don't kind of go right at

1247
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: it again right away, you know what I mean.

1248
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean because now, like especially you go to a

1249
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: Division one college, like they're going to put you into

1250
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: like a nice weight room program and you're gonna be lifting.

1251
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: They're taping your ankles, they're taping your wrists, they're doing

1252
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: all of that and some of those things. Like you said,

1253
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 2: it's I think it's to produce a more explosive, more

1254
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: physically gifted athlete. By the way, it does work, but

1255
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: for the long run, I think they might do some

1256
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: research that.

1257
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: Man.

1258
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 2: I not there's probably some some stuff out there. I

1259
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: don't know about it.

1260
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, again that's just my theory. I'm not a doctor,

1261
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: but that's my theory. All right. Final call the show

1262
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: is Maurice and Montclair. Then we got to roll Maurice.

1263
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: What's up?

1264
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 6: Hey, what's going on?

1265
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 7: Gentlemen?

1266
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: You only got to call minute your Marie. I'll get

1267
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: to your point quick.

1268
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm about to get to my point quick. Hey, man,

1269
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 6: let me just run it off by saying it's a

1270
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 6: it's a mess, gentlemen, I don't like it. If I

1271
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 6: gotta be quick, I'm gonna just shoot to the point.

1272
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 6: It's coaching to me, because at some point we got

1273
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 6: to ask ourselves if we ain't good as far as

1274
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 6: protecting for a long period of time, who gives it?

1275
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 6: Don If we paid Daniel all this money and we

1276
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 6: got these cute weapons, I think the giants got full

1277
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 6: of themselves and been trying to just do this little

1278
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 6: downstill thoh, no, we can hold up. Hey, you come

1279
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 6: in and block just you come in and block me.

1280
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 6: I mean we're gonna get a shot down there. No,

1281
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: we got we got Breta. Somebody tell me if Brita

1282
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 6: is just a piece of trash laying around here. The

1283
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 6: approach we had with Saquan shouldn't stop with Brita. It

1284
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 6: didn't stop last year when when Taquan needed a break,

1285
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 6: we kept the same approach. Breda probably took a wildcat

1286
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 6: option and everything. So why we can't give him about

1287
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 6: seventeen twos, Why we can't slow the game down and

1288
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 6: make easier decisions out there for Daniel and it's looking.

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Speaker 4: Discussy, is Maurice.

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Speaker 1: Maurice, Maurice, I'll tell you why Matt Braid has rushed it.

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Speaker 1: Matt Braid has rushed to thirty times for eighty two

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Speaker 1: yards this year. That is under three That is under

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Speaker 1: three yards per carry. You want to get into the

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Speaker 1: third and long every single time, go run it for

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Speaker 1: one yard on first down.

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Speaker 6: Nah, I've got you.

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Speaker 3: Bo.

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Speaker 6: Right after I said that, John, I said, Yo, why

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Speaker 6: we can't do some easier passing. I mean, like my

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 6: thing is just the approach. I feel like, Yo, if

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Speaker 6: we got all these issues as coaches, we should be

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Speaker 6: able to identify and adjust. I don't see no adjustments,

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Speaker 6: fellas Naci.

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Speaker 1: Maurice, I disagree. They've they've tried max protecting on play action,

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00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: they tried holding tight ends, and they've tried emptying the backfield.

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Speaker 2: You know what he's saying. He's not saying, Maurice, you're

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00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: not seeing different results. You're not seeing different results. That's

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Speaker 2: what you're not saying. I agree with you with that,

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Speaker 2: and that's what they are trying to do different things.

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Speaker 2: Nothing it's working quite yet, that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 8: I gotcha.

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Speaker 6: I want to be quick down and I love with y'all. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 6: let me say this then. My thing with today's NFL, Yo,

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Speaker 6: it's like I grew up watching the sophisticated quarterback who

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Speaker 6: also was the coach to the extension on the field.

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Speaker 6: Nowadays everything has gotten changed, gentlemen. It's like, no, here,

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Speaker 6: we'll give you the call. Here, run our system. We'll

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Speaker 6: put you in the right situation. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 6: Just throw it nice yet good spiral. Okay, that's what

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Speaker 6: we like.

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Speaker 3: Nah.

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Speaker 6: Let Daniel give them some time to get to that

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Speaker 6: line while the play clock is still generous. And I've

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Speaker 6: seen Daniel get in the zone and do this before.

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Speaker 6: So it's just like, I don't know, man, let me

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Speaker 6: ask this JC. You a linebacker, you know, when you

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00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 6: coming after somebody, I got two things for you know,

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Speaker 6: when you're coming after somebody, when you blitch? Mathematically scratching

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Speaker 6: my head right now, shouldn't somebody be open? Like when

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 6: they blitch, they just go and get them. It's like, damn, son,

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Speaker 6: somebody's out there, but I don't see the all twenty twos.

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Speaker 6: I don't get to see what's going on. But it's

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Speaker 6: just like, yo, what the you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: and here's the here's the second thing, JC, y'all got

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Speaker 6: two for you. Second thing is you've been a player.

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Speaker 6: You know the mental side of it. I think people

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Speaker 6: approach us and say, man, these guys this week talking

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Speaker 6: up front, and they might they might round that out

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Speaker 6: to a collective and say, yeah, they're just not that good.

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Speaker 6: But up front, we need some dogs, bro, we need

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Speaker 6: like I mean, take a page out of silly book.

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Speaker 6: If it's a guy that hate been through an off

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Speaker 6: field issue, but he's extremely talented, New York Giants, go

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01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 6: get him and clean him up. Because the Giants have

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Speaker 6: always stayed away from certain people. But it's like, at

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Speaker 6: this point, Sellers, we need some dogs. I'm tired of

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Speaker 6: seeing these guys. Last thing, if somebody is beating me

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Speaker 6: this bad and I have to protect my quarterback, Fellers,

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01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 6: the rules is going out the window. I'm holding on

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 6: every play because you're not going to embarrass me like that.

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Speaker 6: Embarrassing like that.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff to appreciate, thanks for calling it good stuff.

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Speaker 2: So first off, he's said, if you add a blitzer in,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be a guy open, No, because there's only five

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01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: LGB receivers that can run down the field and you

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Speaker 2: could have upwards to seven defensive backs or including linebackers

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 2: into that in coverage. So no, that's not always the case.

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Speaker 2: And yes, I agree the Giants do need dogs. They do,

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Speaker 2: and I think they do have some, especially on the

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01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: offensive line. They're not healthy, you know. And I agree

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Speaker 2: with what he said, Like I always talk about like

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Speaker 2: that mentality, right, that establishing that physical dominance, like doing

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01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: a little bit extra, maybe getting a little which Madelin's

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: on right now, being a little bit violent, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe getting that one penalty because you're doing too much,

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Speaker 2: but you're fighting, and like who's that That was on

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01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. The Giants played them, and they played the Commanders,

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Speaker 2: I believed the week before, and they took a shot

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Speaker 2: on Howell, right, that was borderline. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: it's like that fired everybody up on defense. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying do that, but like that shows me that you're

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Speaker 2: trying to be as physical as you possibly can. You're

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: not going to be soft, and you'll rather take that

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01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: penalty and then allow that dude to run you over.

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Speaker 2: Like little stuff like that. I feel like like that's

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Speaker 2: what he's kind of talking about. That dog mentality like

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Speaker 2: I don't want team I don't want our team getting penalties.

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Speaker 2: We can't afford to have penalties on top of the

1379
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: plays that we're giving up. But to see the fight,

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01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: to see that dog mentality like I would like to

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Speaker 2: see that more and nick Giants just haven't really showed

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Speaker 2: that consistently at times, yes, but not consistently.

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Speaker 1: JC, good stuff, MHM. Check us out pregame show on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night starting six to twenty on Wfan JC and

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