1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Everybody is the DJ en Vy Jesse, Larry Schela mean 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: the guy, we are the Breakfast Club. Lola Rosa is here. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: if Congressman Al Green, welcome brother, thank you, thank you, brother, 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: How you feeling, Yeah, well, I'm feeling quite well. Better 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: than I deserve is what I usually say, because candidly, 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: I have the gift of life. I didn't earn it, 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: and I'm appreciative and I try as best as I 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: can to appreciate the life that I have. But current 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: events obviously are on my mind. And notwithstanding these events, 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: I still say that I'm better than I deserve. 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, I want to you don't want to say something. Man. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago, the good Brother Michael Eric 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: Dison reached out and he said, Congressman, I agree in 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: Texas wants to come on Breakfast Club. And I'm like, 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: I for sure connected with the producers and everything else. 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: So this is just divine timing because this was something 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: that was in the Magan a couple of weeks ago. 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 4: But then everything transpired transpired this week. Yes, sir, what 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: made you even want to come on a couple of 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 4: weeks ago? 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: I admire the way you conduct your program, to be 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: quite honest, But may I just step back a moment 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 3: and say a kind word about Michael. Absolutely, I think 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: so much of him. He's one of the great minds 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: of our time. Absolutely, I don't know that he has 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: an equal to be very honest with you, So I'm 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: grateful to him for reaching out on my behalf. But 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: I wanted to come on because I know that you 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: have an audience that may not have had an opportunity 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: to hear some of the things that I think would 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: merit their consideration. So this would be an opportunity to 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: reach out and see if we can help persons better 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: understand some of what's happening in Congress. 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: And not only do you have one of the greatest 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: R and B singer's name, you got an R and 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: B voice. 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Well, I've never been acknowledged in this fashion before. I 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: have had people to say to me, well, let me 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: give you this example. I was introduced and it was 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: a great introduction, one of the best introductions I've ever had. 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: And as I was going to speak. The gentleman said 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: to me, before you finish, would you just please sing 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: one song? He knew not that I was just give 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: us one one song. 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: But I want to start from back before we get 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: into everything that's going on. Who is al Green? And 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: what made you wanted to get into serving people? 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: But probably started early in life when I was a 52 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: child in elementary school, my teacher, Miss Graham I believe 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: was her name, had the class to all assume some 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: office or run for some office. And I was running 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: for class president and my theme was go with Green. 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: And that meant something to me then and it continued. 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: President of student body, president of freshman class in college. 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: Once you get into this, it seems to envelop you 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: and you you just don't leave it immediately. So I didn't. 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: I didn't plan to do this. It sort of consumed 61 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: me in a sense. And here I am. So it's 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: not not a not a contrived thing. Now. 63 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: They said, you like HBCU so much. 64 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: You went to three of them. 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, I went to for. 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: You, Howard and Duskegee. 67 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: And I also went to Texas Southern and Texas. Yes, sir, 68 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: I enjoyed undergraduates. I really did. And by the way 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: for everybody's edification. I have no undergraduate degree. I was 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: fortunate enough to get into law school. It was just 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: a quirk of circumstance. And so I finished law school 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: at Thurgood Marshall School of Law. 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: You know, you caused some good trouble the other night 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: when you stood up and spoke out at the Is 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: it the State of the Union. No, it was a 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: joint joint joint session of Joint Session of Congress. When 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: we sit up and spoke out of the Joint Session 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: of Congress. I think what was getting lost is what 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: you actually said. Thank you, And you said that you 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: have no mandate on medicare, no mandate to cut medicaid, no. 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: Mandate to cut literally friends. I had my coat, my cane, 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: and I was about to make my exit because I 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: really didn't want to sit through what I knew the 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: President would do. So as I was about to make 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: my exit, he made this statement about his mandate and 86 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: I said to him, you have no mandate to cut medicaid. Uh. 87 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: And by the way, I didn't come to say that. 88 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: I did not. It was spontaneity. It was just something 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: far movie. Yes, so I said it, and of course, 90 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 3: the speaker admonished me. He said that I take a seat, 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 3: but at the moment I had to make the point, 92 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: so I said it again. The speaker admonished me again, 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: and the speaker did his job. He said, well, you 94 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: got to be moved, removed, and so I was evicted. 95 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, the officers who evicted me were 96 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: very kind. They didn't say anything to me that was 97 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: out of order. They were very kind to me. But 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: it didn't matter to me what the consequences were. And 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: I've shared this with other people. John Lewis and I 100 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: were friends and we talked about this notion of peaceful protest, 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: and a part of it is not just getting in 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: the way. As he put it, you have to get. 103 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: In the way. 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: You have to be disruptive. People are not going to 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: like you some But when you do this, you have 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: to also be prepared to suffer the consequences. So when 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: I did it, I was prepared to suffer the consequences, 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: and I'm prepared now. But that doesn't mean that I'm 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: going to like the consequences. You can be prepared to 110 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: suffer things that you don't agree with. I don't agree 111 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: with what happened, but I was prepared to suffer because 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: Medicaid means so much to so many people. One in 113 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: every five persons with insurance in this country is covered 114 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: by virtual medicaid, and if we lose Medicaid, we're going 115 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: to lose lives. The president, buying through his agents in Congress, 116 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: has that should a mandate bepast legislation to cut eight 117 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty billion dollars from the committee that has 118 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: jurisdiction over Medicaid. You cannot do that. You cannot do 119 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: that without cutting into Medicaid. And if you do that, 120 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: you're going to hurt a lot of people that I represent. 121 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: So I'm standing for them because they can't stand for 122 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: themselves understanding that they need this health care. 123 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 4: I'm glad you explained that, but I also you said something. 124 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: You said that the speaker was doing his job. So 125 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: if that's the case, why Democratic speakers do their job 126 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: and kick out Joe. 127 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Wilson when he yelled at at Barack Obama? You lied? 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: Why they didn't do their job and kick out Marjorie 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: Taylor Green or bol Bird Like, why don't they do 130 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: their job? 131 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: This is why I came to the program because I 132 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: would get a question like this, and I really appreciate 133 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: this question because it gets to the essence of where 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: we are. But a good many of us don't realize it. 135 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: There is still invidious discrimination. There is invidious discrimination in 136 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: the House of Representatives. I'm a son of the segregated South. 137 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: The rights that the Constitution recognized for me, my friends 138 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: and neighbors denied. I had to sit in the back 139 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: of the bus the balcony of the movie drink from 140 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: a colored water fountain, and my relatives who committed some 141 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: crimes were locked up in the bottom of the jail. 142 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: I know what invidious discrimination looks like. The klan burned 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: across in my yard. I know what it smells like, 144 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: and filthy waiting rooms, and I've been in places where 145 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be, and I know what it 146 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: sounds like. I've been called all kinds of ugly names, 147 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: so I know in vidious discrimination. And when the speaker 148 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: decided that I would be removed, and then there was 149 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: this motion, this resolution to censure me, it became obvious 150 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: to me that I was not being treated as others were. 151 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: And candidly speaking, it is in vidious discrimination, harmful discrimination. 152 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: I don't agree with that, but I was willing to 153 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: suffer that because I knew that I had to get 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: that message to the president and put this issue before 155 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: the public, because the public has not grasped what's going 156 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: to happen if Medicaid is cut. This is not about 157 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: black people. Most of the people of the plurality, their Anglos. 158 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: Black people are smaller percentage of Medicaid. But this is 159 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: about people who need healthcare. This president is a person 160 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: who uses his incivility to take advantage of our civility. 161 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: When I left, I went home and I saw the 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: rest of the event on television, and I saw him 163 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: point to the Democrats and say, these people are lunatics. 164 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: He called the Democratic members of Congress lunatics. Now that 165 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: is incivility. He will not be punished for that. He's 166 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: not going to be sanctioned. He's not going to be reprimanded, 167 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: he's not going to be censured. He does this with impunity. 168 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: I believe that we have to meet incivility with incivility. 169 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: I have to be prepared to suffer the consequences. But 170 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm prepared to meet his incivility that he uses to 171 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: demean people. We have to use our incivility to uplift people, 172 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: and I plan to do that. 173 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: I understand that, But why wouldn't the Democratic Speaker of 174 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: the House censure those folks, like why wouldn't she call 175 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: them out? Or he called him out when Obama was 176 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 4: in office? Why wouldn't Pelosi call him ol when Biden 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: was in office? And do to them what they did 178 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: to you when they disrupted the joint right. 179 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,479 Speaker 3: My belief is that what they've done to me exceeded 180 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: what should be done, and that may be why, because 181 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 3: they didn't want to exceed what should be done. That 182 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: would be my guest. I can't deadly don't know, but 183 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 3: I know that I have been treated differently, and I 184 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: have accepted that it happened. I don't agree with it, 185 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: and I think that if you treat everybody else as 186 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: you should, and then when I show up, you decide 187 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: to treat me differently, I then protest that. And I 188 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: do that, but I would protest notwithstanding the way they've 189 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: done it, simply because I think that at some point, 190 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: even if nobody stands with you on some issues, they 191 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: are so important that if nobody stands with you, it 192 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: is better to stand alone than not stand at all. 193 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: I agree with you, but I also believe Democrats the cowards, 194 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 4: and that's why they didn't call out Marjorie Taylor Green. 195 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: That's why they didn't call out Joe Wilson when he 196 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: did it. And Republicans. That's what what happened the other night. 197 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 4: It made a weak party look weaker. You looked strong, 198 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: and I was sitting there wondering, well, why is nobody 199 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 4: else standing up with that brother? Why is nobody else 200 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: walking out with that brother in that moment? To me, 201 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 4: it just shows you how cowardly the Democratic Party is. 202 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: Did you feel did you feel like people should have 203 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 5: left with you? 204 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: Do you feel like if we leave, like you know, 205 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: one leave, we all leave, but together we united. 206 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: Let me give you a proper predicate before I go 207 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: to the specific point. I'm not a Democrat because I 208 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: love the notion of being a Democrat. I don't have 209 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: another option. This is the option that's available to it 210 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: the best option available to me. And I tell people 211 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: that I'm a liberate Democrat, unbought, unbossed, and unafraid. 212 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: Would I have. 213 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: Stood with someone else had they done. 214 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: This, Yes, absolutely, I would have. 215 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: And I believe that there are some Democrats who weren't 216 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: there when he said lunatic. I'm sort of pleased that 217 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: Maxine Waters wasn't there because I'm confident Maxine would have 218 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: had some choice words for him, words that I wouldn't use. 219 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: She's a master of scatology and so, but I don't 220 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: begrudge them. To be very honest, I think people have 221 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: to on some of these questions, do what your conscious dictates. 222 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: This was a dictate of my conscience, my convictions, and 223 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: I said to my friends, vote your conscious when we 224 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: got to the vote in this case, vote vote whatever 225 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: your convictions are. I'm not trying to sway you one 226 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: way or another, but I do say to you, and 227 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: I've said this before, I'm not a Democrat because it's 228 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: it was not like a religion for me. I'm there 229 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: because it's the best choice that I have. If I 230 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: had another choice, I would opt for that. 231 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: Now you talk about your sorry, you talk about consequences, Yes, sir, 232 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: what are the consequences for what. 233 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: You well, I'm about to suffer double jeopardy. They have 234 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: censured me, which was to bring me before the house 235 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: and read the statement that was a statement of censure. 236 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: But there is now a movement to strip me of 237 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: my committee assignments. I would call that double jeopardy. I 238 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: will not agree with it, but I will still say 239 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: to you, if I could do it again, I would 240 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: knowing that they would do these things because it's not 241 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: about me. It's about what Brother Charlemagne said, It's about 242 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: the healthcare. And somewhere along the way we make sacrifices. 243 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: Sixtieth anniversary, is that what it is acrossing Edmund Pettis 244 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: Bridge today, John Lewis and those folks made sacrifices. John 245 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: Lewis explained to me he thought he was going to 246 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: die on that bridge. Some people have to make sacrifices. 247 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: So if sacrificing a congressional seat is going to help 248 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: people get health care, then that's a good exchange. That's 249 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: a fair exchange to get that health care for people 250 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: who need it. 251 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 6: If they strip you of your committees, though, right, like 252 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 6: a person like you who you're not afraid, right the 253 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 6: committees that you're involved in financial services, homeland security, diversity 254 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: and inclusion of in housing, community development, insurance, what does 255 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 6: that mean for the people that you know you're doing 256 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 6: so much good for, Like what effect are we going 257 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 6: to see from that? 258 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: Well, I would hope that the person who follows will 259 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: take up the same causes and will do as well 260 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: as can be done. I don't believe that I'm the 261 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: only Al Green in the world. Well, I know that 262 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: maybe I should have said that way. There is mister 263 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: love and happiness for the good times. But I think 264 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: that there are other people who can take up this 265 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: cause and do equally as well or better. You know, 266 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: I admire brother Jamal Bowman. 267 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh I love Jamal. 268 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I ja Maul would have stood which yeah, try 269 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: to matter fact, Jamal wouldn't even just came. 270 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't even show us. You know. 271 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: I was tempted not to as well. I was, but 272 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: I went to walk out. I did not go to 273 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: make the statement. I went to walk out. But when 274 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: he said he had this mandate, I had to then 275 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: counteract that because I didn't want people to think that 276 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: he would have a mandate to cut medicaid, Medicaid, Medicare, 277 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: and social security. They are the foundation of what we 278 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: call the safety net, and we have to protect them. 279 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: And with social Security, somewhere around twenty thirty five, we're 280 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: going to have a short fall, and we're gonna have 281 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: to do something to make sure that Social Security continues 282 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: to make its timely payments. I have said we should 283 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: raise the cap, meaning persons who make more than one 284 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy six thousand, one hundred dollars. I believe 285 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: it's a cap. Let's make them pay into the system too. 286 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: Right now, if you make one hundred and seventy one 287 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: hundred dollars, all of your money is taxed for Social 288 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: Security twelve point four percent, six two from you and 289 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: six point two from your employer. Well, I think we 290 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: have to raise that cap so that we can continue 291 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: to have these payments. There are some people who would 292 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: raise the age, and if they raise the age, black 293 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: men will become donors, with donors right now to a 294 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: certain extent, because we don't live as long. Our life 295 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: span is shorter, So raising the age only then causes 296 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: some people just pay into it and never benefit from it. 297 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: And it's an investment not an entitlement, so they won't 298 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: collect on their investment. So I'm for raising that cap. 299 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: That's important. Medicare, We've got to make sure that we 300 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: maintain this program, Medicaid, Medicare, Social security. They benefit Americans. 301 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: We have a society where people can walk into places 302 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: typical stores, be millionaires and nobody mugs you. You know, 303 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: people who have much can visit places where people who 304 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: have little and walk away. In many societies, you have 305 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: to have armed guards with you. I may have to 306 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: have one after you know what's happened here lately, But 307 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: you have to have armed guards and you have to 308 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: be protected. But we have a peaceful society because of 309 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: the way we treat people in the dawn of life 310 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: and in the twilight of life. And I'm going to 311 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: do what I can to help them. 312 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 6: Your armed security, is it just you've been receiving like 313 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 6: threats and stuff or like well. 314 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: I don't want you to think that they started with this, 315 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: but they've increased. Yes, I have Crystal can pull up 316 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: some of those and you can hear them if you like. 317 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: But people they don't think very much of my mother 318 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: and my lineage, and they think that it would be 319 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 3: appropriate for me to wear a rope as a necktime. 320 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: But when you sign on, you don't sign on to 321 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: have a party or just have a great time. You 322 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: have to sign on for the times that exist, and 323 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: you have to do what's necessary to make things better 324 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: for those that you represent. And you just have to 325 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: accept these things, and we do. I don't say to 326 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: you accept them and not be judicious, not be prudent. 327 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: You've got to be prudent enough to say I want security, 328 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: and notwithstanding that, things can happen to you, but you 329 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: ought to at least do what you can to protect yourself. 330 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: But doctor King gave us some sage advice. He reminds 331 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: us that a person who hasn't found something worth dying 332 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: for isn't fit to live live, you know, so we 333 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: all have to find something. 334 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: When you say you told people to vote for their 335 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 4: conscience and then ten Democrats voted to censure. 336 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 3: You, what does that say about their conscience? Well, here again, 337 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 3: this is why I'm on your programer. I assure you 338 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: that question would not be put to me as you 339 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: just put it to me on most other places and 340 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: most other venues. I think that it is something that 341 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: they will have to deal with. I don't want to 342 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: say to them, here's what your conscience should have dictated. 343 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: What I want to do is be an example and say, 344 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: here's what my conscience dictates. And if you believe that 345 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 3: I'm a good example, then you can adjust. But if 346 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: you think not, then I have to accept you as 347 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: who you are. I let them deal with their conscious. 348 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: Conscience is something that's with us, within us, and it 349 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 3: causes us to have moral imperatives. This was a moral 350 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: imperative for me. If no one else has the same 351 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: moral imperative, I let them wrestle with it. I would 352 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: not feel good about myself had I not done what 353 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: I did. 354 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: Do you feel like this presidency changes the landscapes of 355 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: presidency from here on out? I don't seen things like 356 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: executive orders on the first daid a man put a 357 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: desk on in the middle and was signing and throwing 358 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: pins out. Does this change the presidency for here on out? 359 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: I don't know about that infinitum, but I do know 360 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 3: that for the foreseeable future there would be others who 361 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: would try to emulate him. He's growing this crop of 362 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: many trumps. But this president is a menace to dignity. 363 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: To dignity, you fire people in mass you have no 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: idea as to what their responsibilities are to family members. 365 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: Maybe if there's someone who's sick and they're the breadwinner 366 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: and they have to take care of this person could 367 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: have a child in college that needs these funds, these 368 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: emoluments to take care of education. You just don't know. 369 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: And to fire people in mass indicates to me that 370 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: you just don't respect the humanity and dignity of people 371 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: that you don't know. There is no due process associated 372 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: with this process. Elon Musk becomes the arbiter of due process. 373 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: A guy with a chainsaw who is worth more than 374 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: anybody else, it seems, who believes that he can make 375 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: decisions that impact people that he just does not know 376 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: in an arbitrary and capricious way. I think he's a 377 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: menace to dignity. Dignity, but he's also a threat to democracy, 378 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: a threat to democracy because the Supreme Court has led 379 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: him to believe that he's above the law. He's not 380 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: in theory, in theory, the jury, the facto maybe, but 381 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: in theory he's not. He's not above the law, but 382 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 3: he believes he is. He has an inordinate amount of 383 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: influence over the House of Representatives and the Senate. I've 384 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: seen people who I thought had great principles just cave, 385 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: as it were, give in to him, a succumb to him, 386 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: and they allow him to cause them to do and 387 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: say things that I thought i'd never see them do 388 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: a say. So he has the House, the Senate, and 389 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: the judiciary, and if he defies court orders, if he 390 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: defies court orders, at that moment, their brothers and sister, 391 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: he would become a dictator and we will be under 392 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: a dictatorship. He's a threat to democracy. He's appealed them, 393 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: He's appealed them, and he's a appellent process is there 394 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: when you differ? 395 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: I called I've called him a threat to democracy quite often. 396 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: But I'm sick of that talk. And the reason I'm 397 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: sick of that talk is because Democrats don't ever act 398 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: like he is. 399 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Even when they were in. 400 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 4: Power the last four years with Biden, that didn't stop 401 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: the soul called fascism. So why should we ever believe 402 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 4: anything that comes out of Democrats' mouth ever? 403 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: Again? Well about any of this. 404 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: Thank you again for your question, sir. I have said 405 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: that we should not wait until he becomes a dictator 406 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: to try to remove him. 407 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Now. 408 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: I understand that we don't control the House, but that 409 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that we can't still bring articles of impeachment 410 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: because if the courts can't stop him and he has 411 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: control of the generals, because all of those generals that 412 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: he appointed have to place fealty to him. If he 413 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: has control of the generals, the courts can't stop him, 414 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: and the House of Representatives of Republicans won't stop him. 415 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: Then that leaves it to us. There are four hundred 416 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: and thirty five of us. We each have the authority, 417 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: the ability to bring articles of impeachment. And I'm going 418 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: to do that. Why that because I think think that 419 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: you have to go on the record even when you 420 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: can't make the change. Twice already nothing it didn't stop, 421 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: did not stop, didn't stop him. In fact, he was 422 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 3: voted back in the office with two impeachments and thirty 423 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: four fel in the convictions. But that doesn't mean that 424 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: I should not bring them and make the effort. I've 425 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: got to do all that I can. I grew up 426 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: with this belief from parents that when you have done, 427 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 3: when you can't do what you need to do as 428 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: much as you should, do do all you can, just 429 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: do all you can. And there's a song that I'm 430 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: sure many of you've heard. The song has these words, 431 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: after you've done all that you can, just stand, just 432 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: stand and I stand. 433 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 6: I have a question for you about how people look 434 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 6: at the institution of the office of the president. I 435 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 6: know you were a part of bringing the articles impeachment 436 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 6: in twenty seventeen. You said you're gonna do it again. 437 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 6: You got the ten Democrats that Charlottage just mentioned that 438 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 6: voted to send to you. Their direct quotes were basically, 439 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 6: you needed to learn some decorum and respect the office 440 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 6: of the president. 441 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: Right. So to his point, some of that is probably 442 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 5: gonna go out the window. People won't care. 443 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 6: How dangerous is it that there are Democrats or just 444 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 6: people in general that feel like, despite what's happening, it's 445 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 6: the institution of the other one person. 446 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: He's saying that about the president. They need to be 447 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: saying that about the president. 448 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Look, people really understand, you realize how scary it is. 449 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: It ain't even that scary. Democrats cowards man and every way. 450 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: I completely agree that they should say that about the president, 451 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: especially given that he on National TV called democrats. 452 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: Raising left lunatics something like that, lunatics. 453 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 5: The lunatics gave quotes, but it. 454 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: Was you, I understand. I would not have said this 455 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: about them. I would not. I can only say to 456 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: you they have to live with their words. I have 457 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: to live with How do you feel though like this? 458 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: It's all as you stand and you fight, and then 459 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: when you turn your back and you think the people 460 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: behind you back there, and you look and you realize 461 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: that they're. 462 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: Not well, one slight adjustment. I didn't look to see 463 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: and I didn't have that expectation. I stood because of 464 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: the people that I represent who cannot be there to 465 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: stand for themselves. So again I would do it again. 466 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: I will suffer the consequences, and if my being evicted 467 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: can make a difference in the lives of those people 468 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: who need Medicaid, social Security and Medicare, I would do it. 469 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: The state of Texas was accorded one hundred billion dollars 470 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: for Medicaid and rejected it. Rejected it because at some 471 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: point the state of Texas would have to pay ten 472 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: percent of that the amount that was being paid, and 473 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: the federal government would pay ninety percent. There's talk of 474 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: sending money to states now rather than having the federal 475 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: government have his fingerprints on this process. If that happens, 476 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: a state like Texas will abuse it that Texas doesn't 477 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: regard poor people with any degree of respect. That I 478 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: would give them. So I have to fight to keep 479 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 3: it out of the hands of the leaders in the 480 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: state of Texas. And that's what this is about. There's 481 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: a fight, and I'll do as best as I can. 482 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: I don't look, I don't guarantee victory, but I guarantee 483 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: a fight. 484 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 4: Cats your question, did Democrats coordinate any type of real 485 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: form of resistance the other night or was everybody just 486 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 4: doing their own thing? Because we saw the people with 487 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 4: their pickleball paddles, and you know you, you said George 488 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: was spurred a moment like, did anybody have a conversation 489 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 4: because I know how King Jeffres was trying to get 490 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: people not to do anything. 491 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: We meant signs, not pickleball paddles, the signs. 492 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: I know how Kime Jeffreys was trying to get people 493 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: not to do any type of disruption, which which I 494 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: thought was beyond cowardly. Was there any conversation amongst y'all. 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: I am probably what you would call a maverick. I 496 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 3: tend to, as I said, I'm a liberated Democrat. I 497 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: tend to deal with my conscience and my convictions, and 498 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: I have not been engaged in those kinds of conversations. 499 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: I think most people have said that al Green is 500 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 3: probably going to do what he wants, so let's not 501 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: bother and they're probably right. So I'll do the best 502 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: that I can to be as good as I can 503 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: and be of service. But I think that in the 504 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: future what we're doing now I think will have an impact. 505 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: I really do. I think that people will give some 506 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: thought to how we should behave in the future. And 507 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: I have suggested that we have to meet incivility with incivility. 508 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: Ours is for a different cause, is to demean ours, 509 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: is to uplift, But I think we have to use incivility. 510 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: What I did was an active incivility. And when they 511 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: reprimanded me with the censure, we're saying we shall overcome. 512 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: Right there in the well, the speaker try to gather 513 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: us out, but we didn't stop. That was an act 514 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: of incivility, and it was really a response to the 515 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: President's incivility. So we have to use incivility. This is 516 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: another way of saying, protest. 517 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: You know it. You brought up a good question. 518 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: And if we ever get another Democrat president, if right, 519 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: when we see all of the things that Trump is 520 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: currently doing, and we see. Wow, presidents really do have 521 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: power if they have the political will and courage to 522 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 4: use it. I want to see a Democrat do that. 523 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: Why can't a Democrat move like that for the good things? 524 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I absolutely agree with you. We I'll be quite 525 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: candid with you. I didn't know I'm a lawyer. Ayer. Okay, well, 526 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm being candid with you. This is a candid program. 527 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: By the way, I did not realize that a president 528 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: had so few guardrails. Donald Trump, Donald Trump has pulled 529 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: the cover back, you know, He's lifted the blinds, the shades, 530 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: and we now see that a president has very few 531 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: obstacles to prevent him from doing her present prevent them 532 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: from doing whatever they want to do. Very few. This 533 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: president has decided that he will use executive orders as 534 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: opposed to using Congress, and he's issuing executive orders in 535 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: areas that we've never seen a president give us these 536 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: executive orders, issue these executive orders. He has demonstrated to 537 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 3: us that it is more about the will to do 538 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: things than the way. The way is there the questions 539 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: do you have the will? And my answer to you, 540 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: their brother, is yes. I would hope that a democratic 541 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: president would use this authority, not for the purpose that 542 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: he's using it. He seems to think that the very wealthy, 543 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: the plutocrats, need more to do more, and that the 544 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: poor among us can do more with less. Who can 545 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: do more with less? The wealthy need more to do more. 546 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: I would hope that a democratic president would have a 547 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: better view of what the needs of society are and 548 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: try to help uplift people who are living in the 549 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: streets of life, not to the detriment of those who 550 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: live in the suits. There's enough for all of us. 551 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: But let's look after those who live in the streets. 552 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: And there are good many who are not getting any 553 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: any help at all. Don't you admire that going a way? 554 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 4: Don't you admire the fact that he is willing to 555 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 4: do whatever he wants to do for his base. Well, 556 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: that's what anybody who supported Democrats, that's all we ever want, 557 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: do something for the base. 558 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Keep your promises, he keeps it. 559 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, brother Charlemagne, you may I just give you 560 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: this predicate before I get to your question. There are 561 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: we've made promises. People have said that black men, as 562 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: you know, for one of the reasons, and that in 563 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: a sense, black people in general voted for Trump and 564 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: that hurt us. And they're saying that members of other communities, 565 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: the labor community didn't vote as they should have. Well, 566 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: we made promises, and you mentioned that. We said, give 567 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: us the House, the Senate, and the presidency, and we'll 568 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: pass Voting Rights Act John Lewis Voting Rights. We'll pass 569 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: George Floyd Justice in Policing. We will raise the minimum wage. 570 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: We will for the labor folk, pass the pro Act, 571 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: Protect the Right to Organize Act for the members of 572 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: the LGBTQ plus community, we would pass the Equality Act. Well, 573 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: we had the House, the Senate, and the presidency, and 574 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: we didn't do it. That's your that's your point. We 575 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: didn't do it. But here's to add to your point. 576 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: When Republicans had the House to sended in the presidency 577 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: and they didn't have enough votes to bring us to 578 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: cloture cultures where you get sixty votes, so you passed 579 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: something with fifty one votes when they couldn't get to 580 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: culture with sixty votes, they said fine, they made the 581 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: following motion, not in these exact words. When there was 582 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 3: a federal judge ship up, they said, we believe that 583 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: we should pass this judge ship on with fifty one votes, 584 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: and the chair overruled that and said, no, you've got 585 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: to have sixty. And I remember the person making this 586 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: motion asking this said, I appealed the ruling of the chair. Now, 587 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: when you appeal the ruling of the chair, you only 588 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: have to have fifty one votes. So the fifty one 589 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: votes then allowed them to take up the issue of 590 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: placing this person on the Supreme Court with fifty one 591 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 3: votes as opposed to sixty. We did a similar thing 592 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: with John Lewis voting rights, mister Schumer did. And when 593 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: we took our votes, we had forty eight Democrats to 594 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: vote with us. Two did not. Mansion and Cinema did not. 595 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: If they had, then Vice President Harris would have come 596 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 3: over and been the fifty. So we could have passed 597 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: George Floyd Justice and Policing, We could have passed John 598 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: Lewis voting rights. All of the things that I've said. 599 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 4: And no Democrat ever threw Mansion Cinema under the bust. 600 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 3: Hell, you know, y'all give him a speech now, but 601 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: you gave it absolutely some of the language you use. 602 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: My mother would have loved this program. She was a 603 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: master of schatology. But so they didn't pressure them like 604 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: they pressure us, you know, like they treat me in 605 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: a sense. Okay, they didn't pressure them. But here is 606 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: what happened. Now I'm getting to your question. Here's what happened. 607 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: There are two political banks in this country. There is 608 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: the Republican Political Bank and the Democratic Political Bank. Now 609 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: there's some smaller than some small institutions. If you put 610 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 3: your your energy and effort, your deposits, if you will, 611 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: into the Democratic Bank, you expect your return to come 612 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: from the Democratic Bank. Yes, if the Republican Bank does 613 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: something for you, you're not going to reject that. But 614 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: you put your deposits in the Democratic Bank. When the 615 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: Democratic Bank did not return give them a return on investment, 616 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: then persons lost their enthusiasm. So I don't blame people 617 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: who lost their enthusiasm because we didn't honor what we said. 618 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: If we we have the House to senate und the 619 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: presidency in twenty twenty one and we did not deliver, 620 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: I can't I see how people could lose enthusiasm. So 621 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: that's where we were. That's what happened. But my hope 622 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: is that we're learning a lesson, and my hope is 623 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: that we will be truthful about it. That's the way 624 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 3: I see it now. There are other people who would 625 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: blame people who didn't vote for not voting. I understand 626 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: why people didn't vote. 627 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: Do you think Hakeem Jeffries is the leader Democrat need 628 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 4: in this president moment? 629 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: I think that. First of all, I think very highly 630 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: of him. Let me start with this. I have had 631 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 3: an opportunity to see his intellect. I think that he 632 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: finds himself in a difficult position, and he's trying to. 633 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: Position in between Anthony Pelosi and Chuctionoman well repeating all 634 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 4: the talking points. 635 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: Well, I find him in the difficult position in that 636 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: he's trying to get two hundred and eighteen votes so 637 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: that we will have the opportunity to do some of 638 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: these things that I've called to your attention, and getting 639 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighteen votes. You're probably not going to 640 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 3: get two hundred eighteen algreens, but you can get two 641 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 3: hundred eighteen with some people who will do some of 642 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 3: the things that I want to see done that will 643 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: be a benefit, and some who won't. So he's trying 644 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: to get to two hundred eighteen votes. The politics is 645 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 3: not going to work like I keep saying, ohver over. 646 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: I feel like Democrats have tried every political strategy except 647 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 3: for courage, and I don't know how politics gets us 648 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: out of this situation. How do regular, traditional politics, moving 649 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 3: by the rule of the law get us out of 650 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: a situation when you're dealing with people with that much power. 651 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: Who don't follow the rules of the law. 652 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: Well, I do think you're right about the courage, And 653 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: here's where it comes into play. When we do get 654 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighteen votes, we've got to decide we'll 655 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: have enough courage to do what has to be done 656 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 3: even if we won't have two hundred and eighteen votes 657 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: after this. That's the decision that we have to make. 658 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: That's the decision Republicans have made. They've decided that they're 659 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: going to press their agenda, and if they lose the 660 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: House and the Senate and the presidency, they will have 661 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: done as much as they can to advance their agenda 662 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: at that time. I do think that too often we 663 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: tend to want to preserve the power and the process 664 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 3: lose the opportunity to make the significant change that ought 665 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 3: to be made. So courage is you're correct, We've got 666 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: to use it. 667 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: Who do you think is a well tupac question, who 668 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: do you think is very courageous in the Democratic Party 669 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: right now? And who do you think is the current 670 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 4: voice of the Democratic Party. 671 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: Well, I have a you know, I have a bias. 672 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: I work with the honorable Maxine Waters. I've known her 673 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: for many, many years. I have great respect for her. 674 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: I serve on the committee under her leadership. I think 675 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 3: that she is a person who voices the things that 676 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: I concur with. She's a strong leader, she's fears and 677 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: I think that if she had been there when the 678 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 3: President said you're a lunatic, I don't know, she may 679 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: have pulled off the podium. 680 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 4: The Queen Maxine legend, but she's an ol G. And then, 681 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 4: you know, they said the Bible says old men for counsel, 682 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: young men for war? 683 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: Right who the young? Who are the young warriors right now? 684 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: To me? 685 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: I think Jasmine Crockett, I think AOC, I think Ayana presently. 686 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 3: I agree with all of those, But let me just 687 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 3: share this with a little bit of pushback there, brother, 688 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: her mentality is not old. Yeah, she vaccine. Look, I've 689 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 3: celebrated my twenty fifth birthday three times. 690 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. 691 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm in my fourth twenty fifth. I still have my ponytail, 692 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: you know, my beard. But I'm in age, I'm old. 693 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 3: But Maxine is younger than most twenty five year olds. 694 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: She is. Yes, she's an og, but that's a thank 695 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 3: God for an og. She's that kind of og. 696 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 4: I just feel like they left you hanging another night. 697 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: And I appreciate what you did. You know, because you know, 698 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: I keep saying, if something is a threat to democracy, 699 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: if somebody is a fascist, and people got to act 700 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: like it. And when he said that about Medicare, you 701 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 4: stood up and you let everybody know like you you know, 702 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 4: you don't have a mandate to cut medicare. So that 703 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 4: right there shows me the urgency of the situation. Why 704 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 4: everybody else didn't have that sense to urgency, I don't know. 705 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: I feel like they left you hanging. 706 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for your kind words, and I moved 707 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 3: forward saying this, we still have the opportunity to demonstrate 708 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 3: the courage that you've called to our attention. We still 709 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 3: have that opportunity. I believe, as I said that we 710 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: have to use incivility. I believe in this. There are 711 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 3: times when if you can't have justice, then you have 712 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: to step across the line of civility and decide that 713 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,479 Speaker 3: you will not allow others to proceed with injustice. Don't 714 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 3: allow them to proceed with injustice. I remember miss Batty 715 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 3: saying something. I hope she'll forgive me for calling her out, 716 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 3: But she said, at a we were in a meeting 717 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: of a sort, When are we going to do something bold? 718 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 3: Maybe not in these exact words, When are we going 719 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 3: to do what John Lewis did? When are we going 720 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 3: to go and take over the floor of the house. 721 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 3: Not in these words, miss Batty, That was, well, not 722 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: your exact words, but she said that, yeah, something to 723 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 3: that effect. And I'm saying to you that that's where 724 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 3: we are. That is incivility, by the way, but we've 725 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 3: got to have that level of incivility. We cannot allow 726 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 3: them to proceed without at least knowing that they're going 727 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 3: to have to walk over us and walk around us. 728 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 3: We have to do what John Lewis said, and that 729 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 3: is getting the way. So we have to now get 730 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 3: in the way. I would hope that we would see 731 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: this as what we are called to do. 732 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: You think now is the time to bring people together. 733 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is like, you know, 734 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 4: you have a lot of Republicans who voted for Donald 735 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 4: Trump and they're going to these That's one of my 736 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 4: favorite things to watch now, those Republican town halls where 737 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 4: they go into those town halls and raising hell. And 738 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 4: I was sitting there wondering, and I'm like, yo, why 739 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 4: didn't Democrats bring some of those people to that session 740 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 4: the other night and let them be in there and 741 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 4: their MAGA gear and let them be as disruptive in 742 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 4: the chamber as they have been at these town halls. 743 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 4: That would have been a stronger message to me because 744 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 4: we used to hearing Democrats complain. 745 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 6: You think they would have done that though, because they're 746 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 6: so loyal to each other. 747 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 1: None of the Republican town they reason how they losing 748 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: their jobs. 749 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're amongst their people. I don't know. I 750 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 5: just feel like sometimes I feel like one. 751 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 6: Thing that the Republicans do well is even when they're upset, 752 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 6: they still they're so together. 753 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 4: But if you got all these protests with these people 754 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 4: protesting Donald Trump, protesting Elon Musk who actually voted for him, 755 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 4: if they get an opportunity to be in the chamber 756 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 4: where both of them were there. 757 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: I think they'd have made some noise. 758 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: Well, I do agree that we should make some noise. 759 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: And here's what I would have had us. Do you 760 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 3: remember at one point of the Republicans started to say 761 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 3: us a USA, and there was you know, order, but 762 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: allowed it to continue. I think if I had my 763 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: brothers in my way when they do that, we ought 764 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 3: to then, because I'm an og sing we shall overcome. 765 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 3: While they're saying US a USA. We sing we shall overcome. 766 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: I can't and and well, I understand, but but my 767 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 3: point is at that moment, we have to meet their 768 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 3: message with a message and not allow them to say 769 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 3: US a USA and we say nothing. So we have 770 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 3: to have some retort. That is my retort to sing 771 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 3: we shall overcome. I imagine there's some other songs that 772 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 3: might have more of an impact. But my point is 773 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 3: that we have to raise our voices when they raise theirs. 774 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 3: We cannot let them just have the opportunity to proclaim 775 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: themselves patriots while we sit side. 776 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: But that's why they missed a moment with you the 777 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 4: other night. All of them should have walked out with you. 778 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: In that moment. That would have made a hell of 779 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: a statement. 780 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 4: They should have been justice dis after they kicked you out. 781 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 4: Somebody else should have stood up and been justice disrupted. 782 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that there would be additional moments, 783 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 3: and you have now sounded the alarm. I think people 784 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 3: are paying attention. I would only say I try to 785 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 3: lead by example. If you think I'm a good example, 786 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: then follow me. 787 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 4: You're a great example. Mom's right, more than I do. 788 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 4: But at least you gave us something to believe in 789 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 4: that right. 790 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: Well, you're very kind. You're very kind, and if I may, 791 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 3: I don't know whether we're near the end here, but 792 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 3: I want to thank you for bringing a degree of 793 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 3: clarity that is not presented in traditional fashions. You know, 794 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: you have courage. You have courage, you say what's on 795 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 3: your mind. It's a very difficult thing to do for 796 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 3: most people. Most people just are not going to say 797 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 3: what's on their minds. There are many people who had 798 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 3: on their minds what I said. And I'm not patting 799 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 3: myself on the back, but I know it. I'm not 800 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 3: the only person who thought that. But it takes courage, 801 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: and you emphasize this, and I want to let you 802 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 3: know this. When doctor King was at his zenith, when 803 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: he was at his zenith. There were other great orators. 804 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 3: He was not the only great orator. There were other 805 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 3: great intellectuals. But the one thing he had that they 806 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 3: didn't or they didn't exhibit, was courage. He had the 807 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 3: courage to say what others knew and would not say. 808 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 3: And that was what makes the difference. You've got to 809 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 3: have courage. You've got to have the guts, intestinal fortitude, 810 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: as Malcolm said it, you've got to have chidlings you do. 811 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 3: That makes the difference. 812 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: And congress congress Man now Green, we appreciate you for 813 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: joining us this morning. 814 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, dear brother. 815 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: And anytime you need to pull up, you are more 816 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: than invited to come on through. 817 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 3: Well. Thank brother, Michael Eric Dicey, Sir, thank you, thank you, 818 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 3: dear brother. 819 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: All Right, it's congress Man now Green. It's the Breakfast Club. 820 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 2: Good morning. 821 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.