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Speaker 2: First of all, the defense that because I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to talk because you talked about in Arizona when you

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Speaker 2: knew you had to outscore people, that was a completely

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Speaker 2: different ball game when you got to Baltimore. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about that transition. When you got to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: It was around twenty twelve. And when you was in Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: we talked about ray Lewis ed Reed. So did you

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Speaker 2: have Crystal Callis that was he there?

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Speaker 1: Had left? Who was the cornerbacks?

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Speaker 3: So we had Webby, the Darius Darius web we had, Uh,

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Speaker 3: So Mario was already gone to Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When I first got there, Dominique Foxworth was there when

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Speaker 3: he had came over from Denver.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Sahoney, now of the big dude in

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Speaker 2: the middle a load he was man man like talk

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Speaker 2: about that, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And plenty of those guys.

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Speaker 3: So I get to I get to Baltimore. I get

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Speaker 3: to Baltimore, and like you said, like in Arizona, we

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Speaker 3: ran the practice offensively, like our offense dominated. But when

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Speaker 3: I got to Baltimore, like it was just the opposite.

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Speaker 3: And I remember getting the training camp and the defense

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Speaker 3: just was punking the offense like that. I'm talking like

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Speaker 3: hitting dudes late like yeah, I'm talking like I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: So I remember like they say, we don't need you anyway, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I remember.

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Speaker 3: And but the head coach, he was a defensive coach,

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Speaker 3: so he loved that, loved it. So I remember. I

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Speaker 3: remember we were in training camp in Westminster, and I

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Speaker 3: remember like it happened a couple of times, like defense

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Speaker 3: was cheap shot in the offense. So I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 3: say bro, let me tell y'all. But one of y'all

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Speaker 3: hit me late, I'm gonna stop practice. Yeah, like all together,

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Speaker 3: and I guarantee you not walking off this field by yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do to me.

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Speaker 3: What you just did the buddy and Bruh's going down

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Speaker 3: like like that because I wasn't I wasn't used to

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Speaker 1: But like, I'm like, bro, you can't just h. And

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Speaker 1: there was some savages over there.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about, like, Bro, the defense was savage.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna fight.

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Speaker 3: Design, Bro, I would mess up the whole team, Like

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna walk off this field on your own

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Speaker 3: power if you do that.

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Speaker 1: To me as you should, as you should.

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Speaker 3: But again the defense man it was, but.

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Speaker 1: They respect that though. Yeah, they respect for the defense,

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Speaker 1: the defense. The defense.

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Speaker 3: I used to make bets with the defense. I bet

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Speaker 3: I have more more knockdowns than you. Like, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We cracked backs, yeah, and we were

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Speaker 3: we would have you know, side bits. I mean you

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Speaker 3: had today, Yeah, Oh yeah, I had like eight, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like, but when when you had

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Speaker 3: like like when I came over, before I got there,

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Speaker 3: they had Derek Mason and Mace was you know what

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Speaker 3: Mace was good. Mace wasn't the physical type receiver, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Mace was a route runner. Mace

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Speaker 3: will route you up, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 3: he wasn't like a physical presence on the field. You

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Speaker 3: were physical. So like when I got there, we had

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Speaker 3: Ray Rice at running back. We had Willis McGahee Willis,

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Speaker 3: Ricky Williams my second year there. But I would go

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Speaker 3: to the coach and a coach run the ball my

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Speaker 3: way first play, like to set the tone. Yeah, set

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Speaker 3: I'm cracking and like, man, them dudes love that defense,

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Speaker 3: we got a dog on offense, like let's go rock,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So, and we knew like

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Speaker 3: They gonna hold it down, you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 3: and then we ended up getting VP.

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Speaker 1: Pollock and he was a headhunter. Yeah, I'm talking about like.

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Speaker 3: We already knew, Like I mean, obviously you know Ed

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Speaker 1: It was light sid.

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Speaker 2: So when you won, when you won, obviously you guys

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. You bolled got that game.

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Speaker 1: You did. Just think how did that feel?

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Speaker 2: Obviously being drafted second round and everything you went to

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Speaker 2: to finally get the opportunity to play in the championship

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Speaker 2: and play well.

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Speaker 3: Well, for me, it was it was actually my second

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl of second because in Arizona, we it was

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Speaker 3: my my sixth year. It was the first time we

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Speaker 3: made the playoffs. Yes, but that was the year that

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Speaker 2: Place that was Antonio Holmes, Florida got.

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Speaker 3: So we we lost that game, and like the only

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Speaker 3: thing I remember saying to myself, I'm coming back. But

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Speaker 3: the next time I come back, we winning it. And

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Speaker 3: that was that was my goal from like that point on,

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Speaker 3: like I'm gonna win a champion.

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Speaker 1: How many years it took you to get back?

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Speaker 3: That was so my sixth year and I wanted my

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Speaker 3: tenth year, Okay about four.

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Speaker 3: So the year we we got to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: We made a playoffs my first year in Baltimore. The

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Speaker 3: we missed the field goal to Tide in New England.

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Speaker 1: And then we came back the.

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Speaker 3: Same year, same exact game against New England and we

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Speaker 1: Like tay, you.

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Speaker 2: Remember all the ones you lost. You run through the

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Speaker 2: ones you lost like it wasn't nothing. He run through

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Speaker 2: the was you lost? But they had you on the

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Speaker 2: I ain't getting it done this time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's up. That's what's up.

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Speaker 2: You remember that because he went to the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. My brother a forty nine

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Speaker 1: It was dope.

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Speaker 3: My first year, we actually made it to the NFC

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Speaker 3: Championship and we should have won it. We played Seattle,

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Speaker 3: There was a blowout, and we were hot because our

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Speaker 3: what ended up costing us the game. But my time

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Speaker 3: I played against San Fran in the Super Bowl when

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Speaker 3: I was in Baltimore. Yes, yeah, yes, so we win

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl. We win the Super Bowl in Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: and I'm on a trip to to Africa doing some

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Speaker 3: I got like, literally like one hundred text messages like congratulations, bro,

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Speaker 3: Like like congratulations what.

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Speaker 1: Like super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, yeah, And I hit my

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Speaker 3: agent up. I'm like, bro, what's going on. It's like, man,

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Speaker 3: they traded you to, saying Fran like they traded me to,

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Speaker 3: say Like what so you ain't even know I'm in

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Speaker 2: Be true, Like I'm on my way to afybody athletes

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Speaker 3: And I got traded and I'm coming back and I'm

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Speaker 3: you know, the whole time I'm thinking about I'm like saying, Fran,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, shoot, if I got traded there.

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Speaker 1: They ain't bad.

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Speaker 3: They were actually in the super Bowl, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So like we it's a legit team. And

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Speaker 3: come back that year we had a great year, ended

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Speaker 3: up winning our our division and like I said, no,

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Speaker 3: a great year that year. But that that team was man.

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Speaker 3: That team was loaded. And when I tell you, like

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Speaker 1: Hard balls all saying they run that much.

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Speaker 3: You had Pat Pat Willis Navarro Bowman at you had

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Speaker 3: To two dudes on defense that people don't talk about.

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Speaker 3: So when I got to Baltimore, Hellodi Nada m hm.

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Speaker 3: I ain't know who loading Helloaded Nada was when I

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Speaker 3: when I came from Arizona. So, Bro, when we were

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, bro, who is this dude? Man?

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Speaker 3: We played the Jets the first game when I tell you,

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Speaker 3: not exaggerating. The dude will get a sack and just

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Speaker 3: on used to average a sack a game, which is

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Speaker 3: unreal in the NFL. Wow, Like those two dudes, like

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Speaker 3: But Hellodi and alder Man, they were they were different, Bro.

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Speaker 1: That's what's up. I knew all this mill because he

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Speaker 3: So he had he had his stint and seeing Frank,

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Speaker 3: he ended up getting in some trouble trouble, and then

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Speaker 3: he was talented. Oakland ended up picking him up and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, he bro he was a talent dog.

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