Speaker 1: Welcome to pod Meets Twirl, a podcast that one's chronicled.
Speaker 2: Two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars but.
Speaker 1: Watched a season and walked away experts. From there, we
Speaker 1: mentioned into Traders, a show I'd never.
Speaker 2: Seen, but one Will swore he could win.
Speaker 1: And now we turn to Survivor season fifty, the big one.
Speaker 2: This time the roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly
Speaker 2: one season, the very first. Meanwhile, I've watched for years.
Speaker 1: We are Wilfred l who prefers his wilderness with room service,
Speaker 1: and Right or Strong, who will hike any mountain but
Speaker 1: hates the beach. Two best friends, one devoted to the
Speaker 1: comforts of civilization, one who would never leave the woods
Speaker 1: if he could. Both reality competition scholars join us as
Speaker 1: we dive into alliances, blind sides, fire making, sand related misery,
Speaker 1: and twenty five years of television history culminating in a
Speaker 1: single massive season.
Speaker 2: This is is Podmates Twirled seeking immunity.
Speaker 3: I Will all right, So.
Speaker 1: We uh we got to see Emily Longeretta published a
Speaker 1: Survivor article which we kind of already had some of
Speaker 1: this bat behind.
Speaker 3: The scenes, we had some tea, but not much yeah, no,
Speaker 3: but we.
Speaker 2: Had her on our show.
Speaker 1: It was sort of like a preview of this article.
Speaker 1: But it's a really great article covering I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: just it's everything everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The funnest part is that there actually was a lion
Speaker 1: that ran through a season of Survivor chasing an antelope
Speaker 1: in the in their in their camp one one night.
Speaker 1: That's an amazing story, and they had to lie and
Speaker 1: not tell CBS about that in order.
Speaker 2: To keep the show going because they knew that they
Speaker 2: would cancel it.
Speaker 4: So if you're one of the survivors and you have
Speaker 4: to take out the antelope first, you want to eat
Speaker 4: that or what?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I would look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole eating the animals thing. Man, it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah, that's so old.
Speaker 4: That was a thing, right, I remember because that one
Speaker 4: of the seasons I watched. Are the only season I watched,
Speaker 4: or maybe I watched part of the next one because it.
Speaker 3: Was they killed a pig.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I remember the guy put the blood
Speaker 4: on his face and then fell into the fire like
Speaker 4: the next episode.
Speaker 1: I mean, mostly what they've done now is they give up.
Speaker 1: They give away chickens, right, and they never show what.
Speaker 3: Happens to You never see the chicken again, do you know.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think a lot of times they
Speaker 1: keep them for eggs, so they're actually very yeah, their eggs,
Speaker 1: but they never resolve, like you never see them.
Speaker 2: Like having to chop off a chicken's neck.
Speaker 1: Which I mean I kind of feel like is a
Speaker 1: missed opportunity honestly, like that's part of the whole survivor experience.
Speaker 1: It seems like you think, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: unless you're Rizzo, who is just clearly not eating because
Speaker 1: he is so skinny right now.
Speaker 4: Well there is so there have been a lot of
Speaker 4: articles that have come out that I guess they're doing
Speaker 4: a lot of these exit interviews, and in all of
Speaker 4: them they were saying that he's been very sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not eating, dude.
Speaker 1: You know, well, it's crazy because someone I saw on
Speaker 1: Instagram put his photo from his first season, from season
Speaker 1: forty nine, which is when he started right because you know,
Speaker 1: he had like four days off, he went right into
Speaker 1: this and he I mean, he.
Speaker 2: Looks like a different human being.
Speaker 1: But he has lost so much with I know, and
Speaker 1: I was he was already a skinny dude to begin with,
Speaker 1: and I was watching, I'm like, now it's starting to
Speaker 1: make me.
Speaker 2: Uncomfortable, obnestly, like I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 4: I'm like, but you know, I guess that was one
Speaker 4: of the reasons where again you wonder, you wonder why
Speaker 4: the producers decide to put what on the air and
Speaker 4: what they don't put on the air, because apparently that
Speaker 4: was one of the main reasons why they cooked so
Speaker 4: much rice that one episode where we're like, why you
Speaker 4: start with six cups of rice?
Speaker 3: You're gonna eat?
Speaker 2: He's literally starving to do exactly.
Speaker 4: He was sick and so and they said that that
Speaker 4: might have been the way that he started to look
Speaker 4: might have been one of the reasons why they upped
Speaker 4: the are they brought the auction auction up faster and
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. On another note, I want
Speaker 4: to start the Survivor diet because frankly, I'd fit in anything,
Speaker 4: and so I was like, just throw me on that yourself.
Speaker 4: That's yike, starving yourself with prizes.
Speaker 1: No, it is interesting, right, like, because you see and
Speaker 1: it's not It hasn't actually been that long. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're talking about twenty some days and yet you can Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're just not eating.
Speaker 4: They talk about on this episode how he like wasted
Speaker 4: some of his chicken where it's like how do you wait?
Speaker 3: What? What you know?
Speaker 4: How are you not devouring everything now and putting put
Speaker 4: in front of you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got like the healthiest thing at the auction.
Speaker 3: And didn't finish it. Did like, no, I'm good, I'm good. Thanks?
Speaker 3: Like what what.
Speaker 2: Chrits did not make Tiff happy? She was Yeah, kind
Speaker 2: of understand. I get that, all right, So let's get
Speaker 2: into the episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you know, another sad one watching my
Speaker 1: two favorite players down one one after they.
Speaker 3: And again, all I was thinking was it's about time.
Speaker 4: It's it's because because just from a game plan point
Speaker 4: of view, love them both and both could easily have
Speaker 4: won and should have. But as the other players, it's like,
Speaker 4: what why are they still there? So yeah, two of
Speaker 4: my favorite players to watch were gone.
Speaker 1: I I totally and I know that you because you've
Speaker 1: been saying from the get go, like why are they
Speaker 1: not pointing out that Sarria's running the game, is winning
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 2: Yes, and they finally did, they finally did.
Speaker 1: Like this episode, it was like everybody acknowledges like, well, shit,
Speaker 1: we have to take her out.
Speaker 2: We all like her.
Speaker 1: But I still I'm sitting there screaming at the screen.
Speaker 1: Why are Joe and Jonathan just skating by?
Speaker 2: Yeah? There, no one is talking about that.
Speaker 1: And both of them are very good at challenges, Yeah
Speaker 1: they have, just like they're playing this old school alpha
Speaker 1: male leadership position and.
Speaker 2: They're getting away with it.
Speaker 1: I don't like nobody is questioning, and like Jonathan is
Speaker 1: literally taking credit for everybody's moves because he's thinking that
Speaker 1: he's in charge of it, and he is.
Speaker 2: He's actually he's decided.
Speaker 1: He like basically tells everybody how to vote, yeah, based
Speaker 1: on whoever.
Speaker 2: Whispers in his ear.
Speaker 1: And it's like King Jonathan, maybe we should go through
Speaker 1: exactly everybody has to call to him and Joe and
Speaker 1: kneel down and say we think it should be so
Speaker 1: and so, and then they decide and then they say,
Speaker 1: you know what, you're right, scratch my beard like Marlon
Speaker 1: Brando and Apocalypse Now and say yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: time to get rid of Serre. And then they do,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they also are killing it at challenging.
Speaker 1: I know, im ends up winning Tiff has been great,
Speaker 1: Tiff is incredible, but her only hope is like I
Speaker 1: don't understand. Like, so for me, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're finally turning on surree, which Will has been saying,
Speaker 1: But now I've been I feel like I've been saying
Speaker 1: since Coach got voted out, why are people just letting
Speaker 1: Jonathan and Joe wellness game?
Speaker 4: So Aubrey started talking about something that again, this is
Speaker 4: why I would Another of the eight ja billion reasons
Speaker 4: why I would suck at this game is because I'm
Speaker 4: not thinking like this where she's at one.
Speaker 3: Point talking about like who should we vote off?
Speaker 4: Who shouldn't Everyone's talking about Rizzo and she's like, no,
Speaker 4: I want Rizzo with me at the end because no
Speaker 4: one wants to give that guy two million dollars. You
Speaker 4: got to be thinking about also, who's sitting next to you.
Speaker 4: Do you think there's something with that with with John
Speaker 4: and Joe as well, where they're like, fine, bring them
Speaker 4: to the end because no one, after the way they've
Speaker 4: been manipulated or what they're doing or they're lying, no
Speaker 4: one's going to give them the money. So hey, I
Speaker 4: don't want to vote them out because if it's Aubrey,
Speaker 4: Joe and Jonathan sitting there at the end.
Speaker 3: Most Aubrey's gonna win, you know.
Speaker 4: I also wonder if there's just something weirdly crocodile brained
Speaker 4: about lost on deserted island need big man near.
Speaker 2: I think, so, you know, that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: I just I think there's just this sense of like
Speaker 1: security around them, and like you know, they're always.
Speaker 2: Like topless and taking care of things.
Speaker 1: And I feel like it probably is just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to keep those guys around primal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but they are.
Speaker 1: But that's a problem because they could win the challenges,
Speaker 1: like they're really good at them, and it's like, dude, actually,
Speaker 1: I would say Jonathan surprisingly is not as well. No,
Speaker 1: he won last week. So yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I am yeah, I I'm surprised that they're not thinking
Speaker 1: like that. So you're right, I would be surprised if
Speaker 1: it is somewhat kind of primal and tribal.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just you want you go for security
Speaker 2: and you feel secure with these two guys. Yeah, leading
Speaker 2: the pack.
Speaker 3: Yeah again.
Speaker 4: George Washington used to go to the congressional delegations in
Speaker 4: his full military uniform every time before he was made general,
Speaker 4: and at the time he was like six foot four
Speaker 4: in a land of people that were five ft three, right,
Speaker 4: so everyone looked around like, well, that's got.
Speaker 3: To be the leader.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in charge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just comes down to that.
Speaker 2: I heard a director once I forget who it was.
Speaker 1: It was in response to the idea that you know
Speaker 1: how you always see pictures of directors on movie sets
Speaker 1: and they're always wearing hats.
Speaker 2: They're always and I heard.
Speaker 1: A director say like, oh no, I always have to
Speaker 1: have a hat. And it's like he's like something, it's
Speaker 1: a different hat every movie and every job. But I
Speaker 1: need a hat because I'm the captain and I want
Speaker 1: everybody to know that the captain's wearing the.
Speaker 2: Hat, okay, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that I honestly don't know
Speaker 1: if that meant baseball hat or like he would find
Speaker 1: a specialty hat.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was an interesting thing. He's like,
Speaker 2: you you want to stand out for the rest of
Speaker 2: the crew. You're like, you're the guy on the hat,
Speaker 2: so everyone you're.
Speaker 4: The giant guy with long hair and a bushy beard
Speaker 4: on a deserted island with huge muscles, like I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I want that guy on my team, right, Like I
Speaker 4: just want that guy on my team. So yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think there's something prim I
Speaker 4: also don't understand. I Again, one of the things I
Speaker 4: like to talk to about everybody that I wish i'd
Speaker 4: ask Christian more questions because I keep thinking.
Speaker 2: Like, damn it, I wish I had I had the
Speaker 2: exact same thought. Dude, it was too quick of an awer,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 4: And one of the things I want to ask is
Speaker 4: how do you spend most of your day? Because if
Speaker 4: you're sitting around for say four hours, why aren't those
Speaker 4: four hours spent trying to find a night right? Because
Speaker 4: Devon's does it, and everyone's like maybe we should go
Speaker 4: with them where it's like, how are you not just scouring,
Speaker 4: like if you're doing nothing else, I know, spend the
Speaker 4: whole day looking at every tree?
Speaker 1: I yeah, And I'm not sure why they haven't been
Speaker 1: looking the second because like they've had idols out every
Speaker 1: time that somebody's you know, yes, it's weird to me, man,
Speaker 1: I I'm the same way. And also its just like
Speaker 1: everyone's so scared that Devon's is gonna find an idol,
Speaker 1: So they're like following.
Speaker 2: I'm like, also, just let them find it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: But is he the idol worshiper or does he actually
Speaker 3: just look.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It's like but I mean he's he goes out and
Speaker 4: he actively seeks them, so it's like he's the idle word. No,
Speaker 4: he's he's actually getting up and looking for them where
Speaker 4: you're not.
Speaker 2: So I don't understand why they're not. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would. That's the way I would be.
Speaker 1: The second I'd arrived on that island. I would be
Speaker 1: spending all my time that I wasn't gathering firewood or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: But I guess they're all just so much. They're just
Speaker 2: gossiping and socialisms.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: But it just seems to me the things you do,
Speaker 4: or you find an idol, then you tell no one
Speaker 4: nobody you have an idol, no one, whether they're your
Speaker 4: best friend, your teammate, your twin, You just you keep
Speaker 4: it in your pocket.
Speaker 3: And you shut your mouth.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't seem like anybody can do that, so
Speaker 4: because then everyone wants to flush the idol out.
Speaker 3: It's like, don't tell anyone you have one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy?
Speaker 1: All right, So episode begins, Uh, this is a two
Speaker 1: two part episode with two did you know that?
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: No, we should have able to figure it out doing
Speaker 1: the math from like when the finale is and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was like, oh, there's gonna be a Yeah.
Speaker 1: So right after Ozzie's voted out, Devons is flying solo
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I mean, I'm glad they put these
Speaker 1: episodes together because this if this first tribal had just
Speaker 1: been an episode unto itself, it was pretty boring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it begins with them saying it's gonna be Devons
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know that guy we said we're going
Speaker 1: to vote out.
Speaker 3: We voted yea.
Speaker 2: So it was interesting.
Speaker 1: I was really curious to see how the whole Rizzo
Speaker 1: Serie Ozzie thing would play out based on you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, Sirie was pissed at Ozzie like when
Speaker 1: she found out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's too you know, she didn't want
Speaker 2: to have you know.
Speaker 1: She she didn't want him to go obviously, and I
Speaker 1: think it would have been tough for her.
Speaker 2: She would have been in a tough position if she
Speaker 2: had to vote more.
Speaker 1: Or against him, but as it was, they had been separated,
Speaker 1: there was no communication that way, but Rizzo.
Speaker 2: Just let Ozzie go.
Speaker 4: I would love to see if anybody else told a
Speaker 4: SuRie that that Ozzie told the plan, because it never
Speaker 4: even came into her head when Rizzo got there, that
Speaker 4: he would.
Speaker 3: He could be making this up because he easily could
Speaker 3: have gone back.
Speaker 2: I think everybody, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think everybody you know told her like, no, he
Speaker 4: was walking around saying, you guys are going to the
Speaker 4: end and that kind of I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it seems like Syria is just on top of everything,
Speaker 1: like ye knows everything, and that's I think that seems
Speaker 1: to be her biggest skill set.
Speaker 2: I mean, they talk about her being like manipulative in
Speaker 2: a good way.
Speaker 1: But it's actually that she's more like she just has
Speaker 1: her ear to the ground and her instincts are so
Speaker 1: right on. Like every time she's like you know what,
Speaker 1: I actually think she's spot on.
Speaker 2: She knows exactly what is happening.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like her real superpower is just
Speaker 1: the ability to, you know, keep up with.
Speaker 2: The word on the street. Yes, but what's the word
Speaker 2: on the beach?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 1: And then and then read it correctly and read those
Speaker 1: sort of you know, the signals.
Speaker 4: She understands that knowledge is power and she's usually holding
Speaker 4: all of it.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought this was so funny that Jonathan
Speaker 1: just completely takes credit for voting Ozzie out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did it when.
Speaker 1: We like, Aubrey's just letting him do it, yep, Like
Speaker 1: because you know this is and this is the fun
Speaker 1: part that you've never seen is like they get to
Speaker 1: present their case to the jury before you know if
Speaker 1: they're in the final or whatever. And so a lot
Speaker 1: of times you'll see somebody like it, like Aubrey in
Speaker 1: this moment will be able to say Jonathan thought that
Speaker 1: was all his idea, but it was entirely and if
Speaker 1: she isn't, and so she could let him take the
Speaker 1: fall for it, right Like people that are upset about
Speaker 1: Ozzy getting voted out will turn on Jonathan right now maybe,
Speaker 1: but then she can say later, yep, that was always
Speaker 1: and none of you knew it because he just wanted
Speaker 1: to take the credit.
Speaker 2: So again, keeping your mouth shut a big moves.
Speaker 1: But then keep your mouth shut, don't celebrate, don't ever
Speaker 1: like get cocky.
Speaker 3: Just I think she could win, Yeah, I think she
Speaker 3: could win. Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think she's letting him be the leader,
Speaker 1: which is just damn smart.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: All right, Devin's immediately starts hunting for Idle Smart, which
Speaker 1: also makes Aubrey happy because she's like, great, that's going
Speaker 1: to put a target on him, which turns out to
Speaker 1: be exactly the case. And then Devon's has this moment
Speaker 1: where he starts crying in the hammock with Joe.
Speaker 3: And he's trying to hold it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I totally teared up this episode. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well this and then his whole star speech during the
Speaker 1: tribal that was really a movie and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is really sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because he is.
Speaker 1: This like he's kind of perceived as this like weasly goofball,
Speaker 1: but he's incredibly positive. He doesn't hurt anybody's feelings. It
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, like and he's like smiling two
Speaker 1: people's faces.
Speaker 2: And be like I had to vote for you, yea
Speaker 2: more I tried.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a really good way to play
Speaker 1: like it's he's not Weasley and.
Speaker 4: What if serisay, She's like, yeah, thanks that and two
Speaker 4: dollars will get me a cup of coffee right right.
Speaker 3: Devon's and he's like, hey, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I know I got to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too bad he got screwed this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a fun player.
Speaker 4: It is interesting as a neophyte coming in seeing how
Speaker 4: the different style react to the different gameplay.
Speaker 3: It really is, really, it's it's an interesting thing to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you know, the key that you
Speaker 1: couldn't appreciate those first you know, first half of the
Speaker 1: season is that you have to fly under the radar,
Speaker 1: you know, like you do not want your personality up
Speaker 1: frown because people will just turn on you or you'll
Speaker 1: just have if you make too big of moves like
Speaker 1: this is when you make the big moves.
Speaker 2: This is when you're blind sided if you're too big,
Speaker 2: like Coach was just too big too early, but he
Speaker 2: just took.
Speaker 1: Over not you know, strategically and socially. That's just nobody wants.
Speaker 3: Is Jenna?
Speaker 4: Is that the name of the first girl that went
Speaker 4: and Genevieve, No Jenna, not even Genevieve, this very first
Speaker 4: woman that went that went Jenna, Yeah, who literally walked
Speaker 4: onto the islands like, hey, everybody, I'm Jeny, we should
Speaker 4: vote out Bobby.
Speaker 3: And it was like she's gonna go. He just opened
Speaker 3: your mouth, now you're gone. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: People let people run and just become their friend and supporters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah all right.
Speaker 1: So then they get to the challenge, which is this
Speaker 1: letter stacking that to spell immunity.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'd be kicked out of this show so many times
Speaker 4: because of how it's weird.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm a good speller in real life,
Speaker 1: but I would never be able to solve for whatever
Speaker 1: reason we'll talk about in the next one. When inconceivable
Speaker 1: came up, I was like, I don't know if my
Speaker 1: brain would do that.
Speaker 2: Like, I did not blame them at all. I was
Speaker 2: like always like I am a good speller, though.
Speaker 1: But for some reason when it gets into like blocks,
Speaker 1: I just my brain just I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't know what spell, and so I would just
Speaker 3: be like, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I always feel smart because they tell us, you know,
Speaker 1: we always know watching at home. I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: in real life, if I was out there, my brain
Speaker 1: would just especially not eating. No, but this is a
Speaker 1: really interesting challenge. I love this is the classic. This
Speaker 1: is basically comes back every season now, and I think
Speaker 1: it's the classic because as you can see, the reversals
Speaker 1: are so huge, Like I mean, Joe's strategy worked, but
Speaker 1: there have been seasons past where somebody has gone as
Speaker 1: slow as he has and still failed.
Speaker 3: And so then I was like on the edge of
Speaker 3: my seat with this one.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's a really incredible child.
Speaker 3: And I just want to try them all.
Speaker 2: I want to try them all. I am so cool.
Speaker 3: I want to try all of these.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is just have a theme park so much. Yes,
Speaker 2: the Survivors.
Speaker 1: Survivor Land, Yes, somebody let them go and you just
Speaker 1: get to try it, Like.
Speaker 4: You try all this stuff, you kill a chicken, yep,
Speaker 4: you vote out, siree.
Speaker 2: I went to a wedding.
Speaker 1: Once on a on a beach, like it was at
Speaker 1: a resort, and they did have us play like competitive
Speaker 1: games on the beach.
Speaker 2: They weren't this big, but like it was super fun.
Speaker 3: You know that's great.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I bet you there's companies out.
Speaker 4: There that we've talked about this. There's got to be
Speaker 4: like a host your own Survivor party. We might we
Speaker 4: might have to do that, we might have to see it.
Speaker 4: I'd be so bad at all I would have to try.
Speaker 1: So joe strategy is slow and steady, and you can
Speaker 1: see like Rizzo doing the opposite, just like.
Speaker 2: Stack stuck, run stock and he gets close.
Speaker 1: It's like when you hit the like six or seven letters,
Speaker 1: it's so hard. So Joe's strategy completely works. He gets
Speaker 1: the option because now they're gonna go get some ribs.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot to talk about Jeff's excitement over the
Speaker 1: food again.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're gonna have cool, slow and you're gonna
Speaker 4: have the SD.
Speaker 3: It's so statistic, it is like because.
Speaker 2: It's like, on one end, yes, that's awesome, but on
Speaker 2: the other end, he's just like.
Speaker 4: He should constantly have like sauce in his mouth as
Speaker 4: he's talking to them. It's just like he's just coming
Speaker 4: from a meal every time he's there.
Speaker 1: If Applebee's anybody just hired him, they just make him
Speaker 1: the commercial and the commercial was just really there.
Speaker 4: With a plate like I got all the ribs and
Speaker 4: fixing with the barbecue. So he's so into it just
Speaker 4: in front of hungry people, a group of hungry people,
Speaker 4: and he's just eating there.
Speaker 3: God, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: Uh right.
Speaker 1: So then Joe takes Serie and Rizzo, which I was like, dude, no, Tiff,
Speaker 1: Tiff has been your girl like that, you have like
Speaker 1: connected ever since you won that.
Speaker 2: So that was a bummer.
Speaker 1: But then he explains his choice, which is like, sir,
Speaker 1: he's got all the social connections.
Speaker 3: And Rizzo is about to die and also has an idol.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, actually Joe's thinking.
Speaker 1: It mineral strategically, not just socially and personally, which is,
Speaker 1: I guess, the right way to go. But meanwhile, Tiff
Speaker 1: is clearly upset about her lack of food because she
Speaker 1: starts really hounding Jonathan for eating their dry rice. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's like it is kind of like, dude, don't eat
Speaker 1: the community res.
Speaker 3: Also, I think it's really bad for you. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's supposed to eat that.
Speaker 2: It's like it will just run through your body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good for you.
Speaker 2: There's a reason you have to prepare rice exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but I just love that Jonathan doesn't care because
Speaker 2: he's just the good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Hands?
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do, Tiff, come and grab it.
Speaker 3: He's hold it up high, Come on, come get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, crazy, you still don't see I mean, now
Speaker 4: that Ozzie's gone, you think anybody's even attempting to like
Speaker 4: fish or is that over?
Speaker 3: Like we don't have the calories to even swim in
Speaker 3: the water to fish, you wonder.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Susan also pointed.
Speaker 4: Out to me, I just heard her go, oh, she's like,
Speaker 4: I would differ do the show at the very beginning
Speaker 4: of this episode, the very beginning of this episode.
Speaker 3: There get back to camp. It's still dark, and.
Speaker 4: They're lying down talking about having to vote out Ozzy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and whoever is in the foreground lying down, a giant
Speaker 4: either crab or spider, something huge climbs right under her.
Speaker 3: Head, right under her head. We watched it three times.
Speaker 2: She did notice.
Speaker 3: She didn't know.
Speaker 4: She's sitting like lying on her back like this, and
Speaker 4: right between the nape of her neck and the top
Speaker 4: of her shoulders, this giant thing just crawls under And
Speaker 4: obviously they've been on the island so long now that
Speaker 4: they just don't care anymore.
Speaker 3: And it's like we've seriously watched it three times. It
Speaker 3: was like, oh, God, it's either a spider this big
Speaker 3: or a crab.
Speaker 2: Just oh, we got to pull the clip from this please.
Speaker 3: Do it so you can see it. It's see it
Speaker 3: plain as day. It's like, oh god, so yeah, very
Speaker 3: island d moment. See.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, as long as you don't know, right,
Speaker 1: I'd be fine. Like if I never thought, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: That's no idea, that huge thing right under the head.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I once I visited my friend was living in India
Speaker 1: for a year, so I went and.
Speaker 2: Stayed with him for a little while. And you know,
Speaker 2: he was he was it was living.
Speaker 1: In India, hyderbed in, yeah, and he was renting this
Speaker 1: this place where we would sleep on the floor, like
Speaker 1: we just had little mats on the floor, you know,
Speaker 1: a pit toilet and he tried to keep it as
Speaker 1: clear clean as possible, but cockroaches were.
Speaker 2: So I get in the first day, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: so this is the spot and this is we're.
Speaker 1: Sleeping, we're doing And within like five minutes would be
Speaker 1: in there. He I see him go ho ho, and
Speaker 1: he goes and he grabs two brooms that he keeps
Speaker 1: and he and plays hockey with a cockroach to get
Speaker 1: out of.
Speaker 2: The house, and I'm like, what the heck just having
Speaker 2: these are ye? Yes, oh god, no joke.
Speaker 1: And he's like, uh, at first I tried to kill them,
Speaker 1: and then they made such a mess every time I
Speaker 1: killed them, and I had to deal with these cockroach
Speaker 1: bodies and blood. So it's like, so what I do
Speaker 1: is I just have to play hockey to get them out.
Speaker 1: He's like, I filled, I tried to duct tape every
Speaker 1: hole I can find in this place, but I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't duct tape at all. They're still getting through.
Speaker 1: And so every night we'd be sleeping there and I
Speaker 1: would just be thinking about, it's got some point they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Crawl over me. I know it's gonna crawl over me.
Speaker 3: They're big enough, they've got like saddles on them and everything.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I had, Like I was.
Speaker 1: It was the hardest I've ever slept because I just
Speaker 1: I mean, every day we'd have to chase out these
Speaker 1: cockroaches at least five times.
Speaker 3: Six times.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know at night there's five or six
Speaker 2: of them at some point running over you.
Speaker 3: Oh oh god, yeah no, no, no, thank you, no,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: But I think I think if I was in the
Speaker 2: actual wilderness.
Speaker 1: For some reason, it doesn't bother me as much as
Speaker 1: somebody about being at home.
Speaker 3: Yes, and see there's a safety of where you're supposed
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 1: Yet no, yes, So after her, you know, argument about
Speaker 1: the food and or bitching about the food or lack thereof, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tip proposes a plan to get Rizzo out, which is
Speaker 1: I think pretty smart, because I think so just this
Speaker 1: idol and everybody's like letting him skate by, So making
Speaker 1: a very good point, agreed, And Aubrey makes a point
Speaker 1: to the camera, which is really smart. And I had
Speaker 1: another layer of thinking, which is at Rizzo's who you
Speaker 1: want to be at the end.
Speaker 4: With That's where the whole thing changed for me, because
Speaker 4: oh my god, of course you got this is why
Speaker 4: you got to think that far she.
Speaker 2: Puts it, and we're exactly right.
Speaker 1: She's like, if they're looking at they're gonna think, does
Speaker 1: this kid need two million dollars?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: And do I even like this kid?
Speaker 4: And he's been here for this amount of time and
Speaker 4: and that's so you got to also think about it's
Speaker 4: got to come down to a vote. It is such
Speaker 4: a balance of you got to screw people over but
Speaker 4: not so bad they won't vote for you at the end.
Speaker 3: They've got to kind of respect that you screwed him over.
Speaker 3: And it's so weird.
Speaker 1: Why the jury thing is cool though, right because it
Speaker 1: means that you can't just be a complete sociopath, right
Speaker 1: because if you're just evil and mean and you just
Speaker 1: rally the votes and promise things to people and then lie,
Speaker 1: they will never give it to you. So it really
Speaker 1: has this element of honor. There is an element of
Speaker 1: honor to it, or.
Speaker 2: At least honesty.
Speaker 1: Right, you have to be like, here's who I am. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's super interesting when the jury thing happens.
Speaker 4: There can also be a selflessness to it, because I
Speaker 4: remember the press that Colby got the first year because
Speaker 4: he got to pick who went with him to the finals,
Speaker 4: and he could if he picked Richard Hatch, everyone was like,
Speaker 4: you're gonna win or whoever it was is like if
Speaker 4: you're going to win, and if you pick this lady,
Speaker 4: you're gonna lose. And he end up picking the lady
Speaker 4: because they wanted her to get the money. And so
Speaker 4: it's like there was that moment too of like yeah.
Speaker 2: Crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: And also people sometimes in the past have withheld personal
Speaker 1: information until they're presented at the jury, and then they'll
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 2: I'm playing for my son, oh you know.
Speaker 1: Which I think was what Christian was thinking about with
Speaker 1: his kid, like, because he didn't mention it. And I
Speaker 1: bet if he had gotten the jury, he would have
Speaker 1: been like, I have a new baby son, and I
Speaker 1: was playing for him, and I kept that personal as
Speaker 1: a secret, and I probably would have worked, right, and
Speaker 1: then really, or am I going to give millions of
Speaker 1: dollars to the guy who you know really is going
Speaker 1: to put it towards his kid and his new life.
Speaker 2: Whereas like somebody like Brizzo, there's gonna be a little
Speaker 2: bit of resentment.
Speaker 4: If you're like you're twenty four, you'll have plenty of time.
Speaker 4: You got your your following, you get everything you're gonna need.
Speaker 2: You could be back out here in twenty years. Right.
Speaker 4: If I was Christian, I would have just I would
Speaker 4: sit there in front of the jury and I would
Speaker 4: have just say give me the money, or I'm going
Speaker 4: to release my robot army, because you know he's got one,
Speaker 4: and so I will.
Speaker 2: I will not stick my robots on.
Speaker 3: You, exactly exactly. You will not be killed in the
Speaker 3: first robot wave.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, the terminators will be programmed, you know your
Speaker 1: favor exactly, everyone else brilliantly all right, Well, then Tiff
Speaker 1: tells Jonathan the plan uh well, which then Tiff tell
Speaker 1: uh and Jonathan tells Siree. There's a moment where they
Speaker 1: hammock breaks and Surree hysteros.
Speaker 3: So funny, and he's instantly concerned. She's laughing. She's like,
Speaker 3: I'm fine, but he's like, are you okay? Are you okay?
Speaker 2: And he's like that security point.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: But I also just love her attitude, like scrowl loves
Speaker 1: hers because like here she sits on a hammock and
Speaker 1: it breaks, like just the worst, most embarrassing, you know,
Speaker 1: and she's just immediately laughing, smile on her face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted her to win or Iy to win,
Speaker 4: which is why they weren't gonna because everybody saw that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah weird.
Speaker 1: So and Surree of course does not want to turn
Speaker 1: on Rizzo because that's her only like major alliance left.
Speaker 3: She's actually been very loyal to her allies.
Speaker 4: I mean, she really has been very loyal to She
Speaker 4: picked allies and she's been manipulating the game, but.
Speaker 3: She didn't really screw anybody over. Yeah, yeah, wow, amazing.
Speaker 1: So the tribal begins with lots of food talk, and
Speaker 1: they expressed their resentment against Rizzo for not.
Speaker 2: Eating his chicken.
Speaker 1: So Devn's just raises his hand and says he knows it's.
Speaker 2: It's likely him.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: But then he says, like, but this is season fifty
Speaker 2: and nothing is simple.
Speaker 4: Turns out, that's pretty simple, pretty much what the vote goes.
Speaker 4: I have never wanted a shot.
Speaker 3: In the dark to work more than I did.
Speaker 5: I know it were too just like man, I hope
Speaker 5: he pulled the right one. And then up to two
Speaker 5: million dollars for everybody. Really, he's been a fun player, Yes,
Speaker 5: he's been. When that emotional speech about the stars, you know,
Speaker 5: I totally teared up.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh dude, this is great. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: have the vote. Devon's plays out in the dark.
Speaker 2: It's not safe. The vote is all on him. Turns
Speaker 2: out it's a very straightforward episode.
Speaker 1: And then Tiff talks with Jonathan and Aubrey in the
Speaker 1: morning and points out Rizzo didn't play his idol, he
Speaker 1: might not play it again.
Speaker 2: We're just letting him scape by.
Speaker 1: But then Aubrey and and Tiff start talking about the
Speaker 1: whole jury consideration, and everybody you know seems to agree that, like,
Speaker 1: Rizzo is who you want to take to the dry.
Speaker 4: But think about but also to look at the tale
Speaker 4: of two episodes, the same move, two completely different outcomes.
Speaker 4: Ozzy doesn't play is idle. It is the dumbest move
Speaker 4: in the history of Survivor. Rizzo doesn't play his idle
Speaker 4: and it's brilliant, and so it's like, it's exactly the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 3: But when how can you not play your idol?
Speaker 4: We're all screaming at our TV sets and everyone's like,
Speaker 4: oh god, Ozzie.
Speaker 3: But when Rizzo does.
Speaker 4: It, now he gets to keep it for another week.
Speaker 4: It's like, brilliant move, You're guaranteed to be in there now.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Actually, I think I misread my notes, So actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what actually happened because they aren't talking about
Speaker 1: at this point, Aubrey is talking about how Tiff will
Speaker 1: win with the jury, and everybody agrees on that point,
Speaker 1: and Seonathan then tells Rizzo and tells him not to
Speaker 1: tell Sariy. Yes, as he assumes, turns out correctly that
Speaker 1: Suri and Tiff for sharing information, but Rizzo, because of
Speaker 1: his Suri connection, tells Suri and calls himself Rizzo the
Speaker 1: rat as opposed to the risk God.
Speaker 3: The risk God. If everyone's just giving it, What would
Speaker 3: you what nickname would you give yourself?
Speaker 2: Righter? Strong?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't know. I actually don't.
Speaker 4: Know about Yeah, I'm with you for I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man, I can't talk about myself A third person rider.
Speaker 2: Doesn't do that, right, don't do that? Yeah? And yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I don't know. I don't know what my
Speaker 2: play style would be.
Speaker 3: You know, I think you'd be honest.
Speaker 2: I think i'd be Joe. I think I'd probably I'd
Speaker 2: be mopey.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, might turn my paranoia into like serious emotions.
Speaker 2: I'd be a baby. I'd probably be a baby. Like
Speaker 2: my goal going.
Speaker 1: In would to not be Joe, because that would be
Speaker 1: my instinct. My instinct would be like, look, if I
Speaker 1: look you at the eye and I tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: I will never light it and I just won't play
Speaker 1: that way, and I will expect that from you, and
Speaker 1: that will make everybody's life hell and then they will
Speaker 1: all be manipulating me or avoiding me for that reason.
Speaker 1: So I would go in try not to be that
Speaker 1: and maybe I could, maybe I could pull it off.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would just be like right, or
Speaker 2: chill out, chill out.
Speaker 4: I try to just be the funny guy, and it
Speaker 4: would be great. It would the first two days, and
Speaker 4: then they'd instantly vote me out. They'd be like, I'm
Speaker 4: doing so yeah. No, I think it would get on
Speaker 4: people's nerves after a while, trying to crack jokes when
Speaker 4: you haven't eaten in twelve days, me going, hey, who's
Speaker 4: around of town?
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna want to kick me the hell
Speaker 3: off the.
Speaker 2: Island from.
Speaker 3: She's like, dude, knock, who's there trembling hunger?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I disagree, dude. I think you would be
Speaker 2: beloved for that very reason. Would be like it's some
Speaker 2: entertainment around here. No good, Oh my god? All right,
Speaker 2: so uh into the challenge.
Speaker 1: This is weird one. I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 1: this teeter totter tunnel thing that they're doing, which does
Speaker 1: not look fun.
Speaker 3: No, and it like slams them out too.
Speaker 1: This was violent and just for what, just to like
Speaker 1: wear them out and freak them out. It really it's
Speaker 1: not hard, It's not like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing but looks cool. So they got
Speaker 2: to do that. Then they got to walk or and
Speaker 2: then they have to pull up discs from a some
Speaker 2: kind of handle situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, walk across a balance beam carrying puzzle pieces with
Speaker 1: this handle that they've got, and then do an arch
Speaker 1: puzzle to spell out a word and they don't know
Speaker 1: what the word is. And this is where I was like,
Speaker 1: why all this talk about you know who's gonna be
Speaker 1: winning when it's Jonathan and Joe are immunity monsters, like
Speaker 1: challenge monsters. I like these people, And sure enough it
Speaker 1: kind of comes down to them. Yeah, and then everybody
Speaker 1: starts helping them. I understand gives up her get Yeah
Speaker 1: I didn't either, Like she admitted afterwards that.
Speaker 2: It was a mistake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's really weird that they are just going
Speaker 1: bowing down to both these guys, That these two guys
Speaker 1: are helping each other like they're not. It's like, what
Speaker 1: do you think is gonna happen? Like you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to turn on one another? I think unless the two
Speaker 1: of them do they really think because they haven't actually
Speaker 1: said this do they think they're gonna end up just
Speaker 1: the two of them, Joe and Jonathan at in the
Speaker 1: final three with like Rizzo, Is that what they're thinking?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 3: Who would get them?
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if it was the three of them together,
Speaker 4: if that's the finals.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Who they'd vote for, but I don't what would Joe
Speaker 3: and Jonathan.
Speaker 1: I think Joe would be the more most likable and
Speaker 1: have the best story in terms of firefighter or you know,
Speaker 1: honest player, right, not in lying to people. Jonathan has
Speaker 1: lied to people. But strategically they were followers. They just
Speaker 1: did what they were told. They were leaders in the
Speaker 1: sense that they would rally the troops, right, They were
Speaker 1: not leaders in terms of big moves. They didn't decide,
Speaker 1: they made the decisions. And so if Aubrey was there
Speaker 1: with the two of them, she'd be able to point
Speaker 1: that out and she would win because everybody'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you actually knew how to play this game, and you
Speaker 1: got these guys to listen to you and to rally
Speaker 1: the troops, but the votes, but actually you were the
Speaker 1: one pulling the strings. And yes, Rizza would have the
Speaker 1: same argument. He would be able to say look at this.
Speaker 1: I did this, I went and did that. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're thinking. They really should be turning
Speaker 1: on each other at the very least, like because you know,
Speaker 1: all of them could get through just on an immunity
Speaker 1: challenge for the same reason that Tiff gets through with
Speaker 1: her winning this challenge, because you know, Tiff could just
Speaker 1: keep winning individual challenges and making a beast.
Speaker 4: There's only two more challenges this yes if I'm yeah,
Speaker 4: so yeah, she's she's really good at this game.
Speaker 1: Oh she's amazing. Yeah yeah, so yeah. Even while the
Speaker 1: challenge is going on, Jeff is like pointing out how
Speaker 1: weird it is that they're helping and like John and
Speaker 1: Jonathan so weird. Uh, And Tiff decides to just completely
Speaker 1: work by herself and totally crushes in Yes, and I
Speaker 1: just I love Joe.
Speaker 2: At the end, he's like, inconceivable. I got to go
Speaker 2: back to school.
Speaker 3: That's how. Yes.
Speaker 4: I was the same way when they showed it's misspelled,
Speaker 4: it was like E and something like what's the problem
Speaker 4: looks perfect to me. There's two eyes next to each
Speaker 4: other and starts with an what's the problem. I don't
Speaker 4: think that means what do you think it means, so, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's I have the second.
Speaker 2: I would have.
Speaker 1: I mean I knew it because there was a name
Speaker 1: of the episode, but I honestly probably would have had
Speaker 1: a hard time.
Speaker 3: Like I.
Speaker 2: Don't I don't blame them.
Speaker 1: But Aubrey admits, you know, she's frustrated with herself for
Speaker 1: not playing her own game, and I was kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no crap, like that's yeah, and then Aubrey points out
Speaker 1: that's Surre will win this game. She goes, yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, Rizzo knows that she's his biggest threat with
Speaker 1: the jury too.
Speaker 2: But he says she's the mafia.
Speaker 1: You say her name and she knows, and sure enough,
Speaker 1: she's like somewhere someone said that game, which is but
Speaker 1: she says she knew the second tiff one, which just
Speaker 1: goes to show how strategic because she was.
Speaker 2: Like, ah, I'm done, Yeah, I'm out, and she knew.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how well she knows these moves.
Speaker 1: And then she makes the move which is the coolest move.
Speaker 1: She frames Aubrey. She tells a lie, which is genius
Speaker 1: because it's it's information that she got from Rizzo. She
Speaker 1: is not betraying Rizzo, so she's keeping Rizzo's trust in
Speaker 1: some ways, but she's forcing Rizzo to not and he
Speaker 1: has to because he would have to admit that he
Speaker 1: was the one. So he's in this weird position. So
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna she might be able to
Speaker 1: pull it off.
Speaker 3: It was brilliant.
Speaker 4: It was brilliant, even he's like, and then it's she's
Speaker 4: trying to frame him, which is genius. Like yeah, he says,
Speaker 4: a masterstroke is it's she's so good, so good, ye,
Speaker 4: And I.
Speaker 1: Really thought it was gonna work, you know. Joe confronts
Speaker 1: Aubrey and she tells him she doesn't say anything to
Speaker 1: tip the vote, but it's like they have to, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm surprised they don't even bring up Rizzo. Maybe
Speaker 1: they did, but they don't show it.
Speaker 4: But I also love did you see the second time
Speaker 4: that she goes and she sits on the hammock Soco's
Speaker 4: and sits on the hammock again and then looks at
Speaker 4: looks at Jonathan and goes, ah, okay, good, I didn't
Speaker 4: need a whole bunch of ribs today. So that's why
Speaker 4: I didn't fall this time?
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So it's like I'm not I'm not a
Speaker 3: full of ribs.
Speaker 4: That's it was great, still cracking jokes all right.
Speaker 1: At the tribal uh, there's an interesting moment where Jeff
Speaker 1: was like, are you guys surprised that you're all that
Speaker 1: you're here? Who's surprised that they? And they all raised
Speaker 1: their hand? I called bullshit.
Speaker 3: I would call bullshit on that.
Speaker 2: I was like, you could tell they were like some
Speaker 2: of them were just kind of like, oh, oh, I guess.
Speaker 1: I should yeah, yeah, But I was like, you guys
Speaker 1: all think you deserve to be here, like how these
Speaker 1: people are good players. They've worked hard, they've gone, you know,
Speaker 1: they've stretched themselves in ways that they weren't comfortable. So
Speaker 1: I called bullshit on that little yep like false modest time.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree just now.
Speaker 4: But the question is what if you were the one
Speaker 4: who didn't put your hand up in the exactly, because
Speaker 4: then you would have called you, oh why and you
Speaker 4: have to be like because I'm a good player.
Speaker 2: Exactly, but because the jury was watching. Yeah, look but
Speaker 2: I I.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I agree with you under present. I think it was
Speaker 4: it's like, oh I've got it, I got it. I
Speaker 4: gotta be humble. I'm surprised him here and it's like, no,
Speaker 4: you're not. You played well and you're here yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then also this interesting moment where Jeff points out
Speaker 1: that Siri and Aubrey are the two players who have
Speaker 1: been really like this close to winning before and haven't,
Speaker 1: which I thought was like, oh, because sure enough the
Speaker 1: vote tonight is pretty much down to the two of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that, like, they're in that fragile position,
Speaker 1: but they're also the players who know the most and
Speaker 1: have gone the farthest.
Speaker 4: So but you're right, though, why what who determines it's
Speaker 4: down to the two of them?
Speaker 3: Nobody talks Joe, nobody talks Jonathan.
Speaker 4: It's just it's they seem to fixate on two names,
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, it's down to these two, and
Speaker 4: it's like, well, and also.
Speaker 1: They all dropped the ball with Rizzo, Yeah, because Tiff
Speaker 1: had been pointing out now for two tribals, hey, if
Speaker 1: he doesn't think the votes are going his way, he's
Speaker 1: not going to use his idol. And then he's got
Speaker 1: a free ride into the final four, which is happening. Yes,
Speaker 1: he now has an idol, which he has to play
Speaker 1: next time so he can't get voted out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's in the final four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's It's also one thing we didn't mention earlier
Speaker 4: because it was really impressive is Jonathan talks about how
Speaker 4: powerful the last tribal was, not with Devon's but with
Speaker 4: Ozzy because that one tribal you got rid of Ozzy
Speaker 4: his idol and series double vote.
Speaker 3: Yep. It was like that was a huge hit to
Speaker 3: change the game up. So true.
Speaker 4: And so it's like, okay, do we get try to
Speaker 4: get Rizzo's idol out, which is the he's the only
Speaker 4: one left, right, the only idol left is Rizzo?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: And there then there's somebody It's like, how do you
Speaker 4: know there's a golden ticket, there's a wins game for
Speaker 4: free and you don't spend every waking moment climbing trees
Speaker 4: finding that thing.
Speaker 1: But I just don't know, like why didn't they at
Speaker 1: least split the votes in this right? You know, like
Speaker 1: we gotta go, we gotta go for Rizzo a little
Speaker 1: bit because he might not you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Weird you vote for Rizzo?
Speaker 4: You tell Rizzo we're voting for you, so you better
Speaker 4: play your idol to get rid of the idol, but
Speaker 4: then you split it and you also do two for three,
Speaker 4: and then she's out and you get the same and
Speaker 4: you put.
Speaker 1: Rizzo in that position because if he although I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe they all really want him in the
Speaker 1: end with him, like I guess.
Speaker 4: You think that's it that they think he's so unlikable frankly,
Speaker 4: that no one maybe not unlikable, but young and idealistic
Speaker 4: to the point where no one's going to give him
Speaker 4: the two million.
Speaker 2: I think that maybe. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Jonathan and Joe have not said as much, but I
Speaker 1: think they're dumb because if because I think actually the
Speaker 1: two of them with Rizzo, Rizzo might win like the jury,
Speaker 1: because because neither one of them played as strategically as
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 4: I agree. I feel like if I was on the
Speaker 4: jury and it came down to Rizzo, Jonathan or Joe,
Speaker 4: I think I would vote for riz.
Speaker 2: And everybody because he has he has an argument.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I'm playing this game.
Speaker 2: I have circles around these two guys. They're you know,
Speaker 2: they're better challenges.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, they got you know, they had a lot
Speaker 1: of like power socially, but they were very transparent. They
Speaker 1: never did anything like really sophisticated to the degree that
Speaker 1: he's sophisticated, like he's been a sophisticated player, he survived
Speaker 1: a lot in this, so he might be, Wow, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun to see how this comes down.
Speaker 4: I think if Aubrey is not Aubrey or Tiff are
Speaker 4: not on in the finals, I think Rizzo could could
Speaker 4: take the whole game.
Speaker 1: So we you know, they go to vote, and I
Speaker 1: just think it's so sweet that Soiree and Aubrey have
Speaker 1: so much respect for each other even though they're voting
Speaker 1: against each other.
Speaker 2: I feel like that is like the the cool, classy
Speaker 2: way to place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, were they on the same the same one before?
Speaker 4: Like have they played this together before?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 2: Oh no, same seasons?
Speaker 3: No, same season? Okay they weren't, gotcha.
Speaker 2: I don't think so Okay, no, but they just have
Speaker 2: them you know.
Speaker 1: I just love seeing them, like even when Currie's voted out,
Speaker 1: it's like just full.
Speaker 2: Of respect for everybody.
Speaker 3: Ye crazy.
Speaker 2: And then Jeff lets Siri say the tripe has spoken,
Speaker 2: which I was like, has this never? Has this ever happened?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Trap your smoking, Trap your smoking?
Speaker 2: What an honor. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 1: It was like I think, in some ways, she's probably
Speaker 1: like the greatest survivor player.
Speaker 2: You have never won.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's played it five times.
Speaker 3: She's Dan Marino.
Speaker 4: She's the best quarterback out of sorry sports ball metaphor
Speaker 4: best quarterback ever who never ever actually won.
Speaker 2: So she got the most baskets.
Speaker 3: Yes, he made the most wickets.
Speaker 4: He made the most wickets were garnered that day.
Speaker 3: Cool, but no, never won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Syria is gone. Wonderful, wonderful, trap your smoke.
Speaker 4: She was awesome and the right they had to get
Speaker 4: rid of her because everybody would have voted for her,
Speaker 4: myself included, like of course she wanted to win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great, she's the best. Yeah, I'll miss her.
Speaker 3: I will too. Well, maybe we'll see her next week
Speaker 3: or will we or will we Well.
Speaker 2: So they don't know that there's a finale.
Speaker 3: They do, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think the way he set it up was they
Speaker 4: don't know what how they're going to get to the finale.
Speaker 4: Like you said, is there going to be a fire challenge?
Speaker 4: Is there going to be this is there gonna be.
Speaker 2: Live is there?
Speaker 1: The last few seasons they haven't done a live in
Speaker 1: LA Survivor finale. They've done it right there, So they
Speaker 1: like that's like been maybe since COVID. I feel like
Speaker 1: they haven't. They would just like say we're doing the
Speaker 1: finale with the jury right here, or that we do
Speaker 1: the they do the voting there and then it used
Speaker 1: to so what they'll do since we know that there
Speaker 1: is a finale live in LA next week, and what's
Speaker 1: going to happen is they do the whole presentation to
Speaker 1: the jury. They have the finalists present their case, the
Speaker 1: jury votes, and then they don't reveal those votes until
Speaker 1: they're back in LA months later, two months later or whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's some of the people are saying,
Speaker 3: it's been almost a year, is that right?
Speaker 2: No, since season fifty.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've heard people saying that that They're like, I had
Speaker 4: to wait for almost a year.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's been. It has been a few months.
Speaker 2: It's been.
Speaker 3: Okay, you sure Emily was just there?
Speaker 2: I thought she was there in like January. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll find out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it is interesting that they playing the
Speaker 1: game don't know, like they they think they're going to
Speaker 1: find out about whether they win two million dollars. They
Speaker 1: could find out within two days from what we're watching.
Speaker 1: But he's like, we'll find out, you know, the fans
Speaker 1: will decide, but we.
Speaker 3: Know June twenty twenty five, it's been a year. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, that's what I thought.
Speaker 4: That's what they're saying is they've had to hold they
Speaker 4: have had to bite their tongues for a year. They
Speaker 4: still well, actually, there's nothing to bite their tongue about.
Speaker 4: They don't know who's won.
Speaker 3: It's been a year.
Speaker 2: They know who didn't win, right, and they're right quiet about.
Speaker 3: That, right, But that's crazy. Wow, Yeah, it's been a year,
Speaker 3: literally a year.
Speaker 1: So this is this finale is going to be exciting
Speaker 1: because they're all going to have been home for a
Speaker 1: year and three of them are going to be sitting
Speaker 1: there not knowing if they're.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two million dollars richual. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, so should we reveal that we are.
Speaker 3: We're going bait to the We're going to the finals.
Speaker 4: I am so excited We're actually going to be there
Speaker 4: to watch this happen.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing my son, Indy, bringing my wife, and we
Speaker 1: are gonna seats.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited, dude.
Speaker 1: I can't see them all on stage, and you'll be
Speaker 1: blown away by like how different people look.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure, even just on the jury after three
Speaker 4: days they look different the jury.
Speaker 2: They just actually they gained their weight back.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, you you, and this is you
Speaker 1: at your normal weight, Like God, sounds.
Speaker 4: Under Rizzo coming in look like Chris Farley exactly. Oh man,
Speaker 4: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're very excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah at the finale, And thank you Survivor for letting
Speaker 4: us come.
Speaker 3: That's so cool, so cool.
Speaker 1: So well, Indy actually hasn't been watching the season with me,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to like found all yeah, twelve
Speaker 1: episodes in the next seven days.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and we will be sure to report back
Speaker 1: about the finale.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's so cool, so cool.
Speaker 2: All right, you gotta Survivor for me. I do.
Speaker 3: And this is a crazy one. This is of course,
Speaker 3: where's history of silver? Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to go a little bit more classy,
Speaker 4: my friend. That's just the way it is today we're
Speaker 4: talking about And I apologize for horribly mispronouncing his name
Speaker 4: because I'm going to Sutumo Yamaguchi and this guy damn.
Speaker 3: So he.
Speaker 4: Drove from his house one morning in nineteen forty five,
Speaker 4: I believe it was yes to nineteen forty five, he
Speaker 4: drove to Hiroshima on a business trip. Oh god, where
Speaker 4: of course the bombs fell.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: So he was in the last and survived. He was
Speaker 4: in the hospital for three days. What did he do
Speaker 4: After he got out of the hospital.
Speaker 2: He drove back.
Speaker 3: Home to Nagasaki. Oh my god, where the next bomb fell?
Speaker 3: And he survived again?
Speaker 2: How did he survive?
Speaker 4: So a resident of Nagasaki, he was in Hiroshima on
Speaker 4: business for his employer, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries when the city
Speaker 4: was bombed at eight fifteen on August sixth, nineteen forty five.
Speaker 4: He then returned to Nagasaki the falling day, and despite
Speaker 4: they don't say how he survived, but despite his wounds,
Speaker 4: he returned to work on August ninth, the day of
Speaker 4: the second atomic bombing. That morning he was yeah, he
Speaker 4: and then he lived to be ninety three years old. Wow,
Speaker 4: And then he lived to be ninety three.
Speaker 1: I wonder what it was like if he just like
Speaker 1: got behind the one piece of metal, or like his car.
Speaker 4: I'm so curious how he actually who knows. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to see if they get more into it. But he
Speaker 4: said he never thought.
Speaker 3: Your panches oh huh as a wardraged not no, oh wait,
Speaker 3: here we go. So yeah.
Speaker 4: He was preparing to leave the city with two colleagues
Speaker 4: when he was on his way to the train station
Speaker 4: when he realized he'd forgotten his his hanko, which is
Speaker 4: a type of identification stamp common in Japan, and returned
Speaker 4: to his workplace to get it. He was walking toward
Speaker 4: the docks when the a Nola gay dropped the little
Speaker 4: boy near the center of the city. He saw the
Speaker 4: bomber and two parachutes before a great flash in the
Speaker 4: sky and he was blown over. The explosion ruptured his
Speaker 4: ear drums and blinded him temporarily and left him with
Speaker 4: serious burns over the left side and top half of
Speaker 4: his body. After recovering, he crawled to a shelter, and
Speaker 4: having rested, he set out to fight his colleagues. They
Speaker 4: had also survived, and together they spent the night in
Speaker 4: an air raid shelter before returning to Nagasaki. The following
Speaker 4: day in Nagasaki, received treatment for his wounds, and despite
Speaker 4: being heavily rebandaged, he reported for work on August ninth,
Speaker 4: and then at eleven am he was describing the blast
Speaker 4: in Hiroshima to his supervisor when the next bomb, fat
Speaker 4: Man was dropped on the city.
Speaker 3: He was again three.
Speaker 4: Kilometers from ground zero, but this time he was unhurt
Speaker 4: by the explosion. However, he was unable to replace his
Speaker 4: now ruined bandages, and he suffered from a high fever
Speaker 4: and continuous vomiting over the next week.
Speaker 3: But can you imagine he lived to be ninety three
Speaker 3: years old.
Speaker 2: Wow, so's insane.
Speaker 4: Two atomic blasts within days, the dude survived. Oh, I
Speaker 4: mean nuts, absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Jesus, that's a good one. Yeah, I'll say so. Yeah,
Speaker 3: shout out su Tomu Yamaguchi.
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Speaker 2: Your smoking