WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: Survivor 5012 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:14.360 Welcome to pod Meets Twirl, a podcast that one's chronicled. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:16.759 Two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars but. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.520 Watched a season and walked away experts. From there, we 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.439 mentioned into Traders, a show I'd never. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.480 Seen, but one Will swore he could win. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.680 And now we turn to Survivor season fifty, the big one. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.520 This time the roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.200 one season, the very first. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.400 We are Wilfred l who prefers his wilderness with room service, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.920 and Right or Strong, who will hike any mountain but 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.879 hates the beach. Two best friends, one devoted to the 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.640 comforts of civilization, one who would never leave the woods 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.599 if he could. Both reality competition scholars join us as 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.720 we dive into alliances, blind sides, fire making, sand related misery, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.320 and twenty five years of television history culminating in a 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.440 single massive season. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.800 This is is Podmates Twirled seeking immunity. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.160 I Will all right, So. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.600 We uh we got to see Emily Longeretta published a 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.080 Survivor article which we kind of already had some of 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:15.960 this bat behind. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.200 The scenes, we had some tea, but not much yeah, no, 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:18.600 but we. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.720 Had her on our show. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.839 It was sort of like a preview of this article. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:26.440 But it's a really great article covering I mean, I'll 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.240 just it's everything everything. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:28.760 Yeah. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.120 The funnest part is that there actually was a lion 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.480 that ran through a season of Survivor chasing an antelope 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.800 in the in their in their camp one one night. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.880 That's an amazing story, and they had to lie and 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.720 not tell CBS about that in order. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.400 To keep the show going because they knew that they 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:47.319 would cancel it. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:48.960 So if you're one of the survivors and you have 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.800 to take out the antelope first, you want to eat 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:51.160 that or what? 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:51.640 Yeah? 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:52.640 Well, I mean I would look at it. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.080 Yeah, the whole eating the animals thing. Man, it's like 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.559 it's it's it's yeah, that's so old. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.200 That was a thing, right, I remember because that one 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.160 of the seasons I watched. Are the only season I watched, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.080 or maybe I watched part of the next one because it. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.600 Was they killed a pig. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.760 Yeah, and then I remember the guy put the blood 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.720 on his face and then fell into the fire like 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:11.520 the next episode. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.760 I mean, mostly what they've done now is they give up. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.160 They give away chickens, right, and they never show what. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.840 Happens to You never see the chicken again, do you know. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:21.760 Well, I mean I think a lot of times they 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.280 keep them for eggs, so they're actually very yeah, their eggs, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.760 but they never resolve, like you never see them. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.600 Like having to chop off a chicken's neck. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.840 Which I mean I kind of feel like is a 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.320 missed opportunity honestly, like that's part of the whole survivor experience. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.400 It seems like you think, you know, I don't know 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.160 unless you're Rizzo, who is just clearly not eating because 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.600 he is so skinny right now. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.360 Well there is so there have been a lot of 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.600 articles that have come out that I guess they're doing 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.239 a lot of these exit interviews, and in all of 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.679 them they were saying that he's been very sick. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.079 Yeah, because he's not eating, dude. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.280 You know, well, it's crazy because someone I saw on 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.440 Instagram put his photo from his first season, from season 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.520 forty nine, which is when he started right because you know, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.000 he had like four days off, he went right into 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.400 this and he I mean, he. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.000 Looks like a different human being. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.600 But he has lost so much with I know, and 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.040 I was he was already a skinny dude to begin with, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.919 and I was watching, I'm like, now it's starting to 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:15.160 make me. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.240 Uncomfortable, obnestly, like I feel sorry for him. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.280 I'm like, but you know, I guess that was one 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.519 of the reasons where again you wonder, you wonder why 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.040 the producers decide to put what on the air and 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.640 what they don't put on the air, because apparently that 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.760 was one of the main reasons why they cooked so 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.520 much rice that one episode where we're like, why you 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.000 start with six cups of rice? 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:33.560 You're gonna eat? 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.680 He's literally starving to do exactly. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.160 He was sick and so and they said that that 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.040 might have been the way that he started to look 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.760 might have been one of the reasons why they upped 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.760 the are they brought the auction auction up faster and 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.119 all that kind of stuff. On another note, I want 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.160 to start the Survivor diet because frankly, I'd fit in anything, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.880 and so I was like, just throw me on that yourself. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.760 That's yike, starving yourself with prizes. 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.440 No, it is interesting, right, like, because you see and 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.520 it's not It hasn't actually been that long. I mean, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.520 we're talking about twenty some days and yet you can Yeah, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.200 because they're just not eating. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.480 They talk about on this episode how he like wasted 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.320 some of his chicken where it's like how do you wait? 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.480 What? What you know? 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.120 How are you not devouring everything now and putting put 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:17.720 in front of you? 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.479 Yeah, he got like the healthiest thing at the auction. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.080 And didn't finish it. Did like, no, I'm good, I'm good. Thanks? 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:24.880 Like what what. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.680 Chrits did not make Tiff happy? She was Yeah, kind 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.520 of understand. I get that, all right, So let's get 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:34.360 into the episode. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.080 Yeah, this is you know, another sad one watching my 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.040 two favorite players down one one after they. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.720 And again, all I was thinking was it's about time. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.360 It's it's because because just from a game plan point 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.919 of view, love them both and both could easily have 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.560 won and should have. But as the other players, it's like, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.479 what why are they still there? So yeah, two of 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.560 my favorite players to watch were gone. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.040 I I totally and I know that you because you've 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.000 been saying from the get go, like why are they 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.719 not pointing out that Sarria's running the game, is winning 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:07.039 the game? 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.960 Yes, and they finally did, they finally did. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.960 Like this episode, it was like everybody acknowledges like, well, shit, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.120 we have to take her out. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:14.120 We all like her. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.120 But I still I'm sitting there screaming at the screen. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.680 Why are Joe and Jonathan just skating by? 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.040 Yeah? There, no one is talking about that. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.560 And both of them are very good at challenges, Yeah 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:31.280 they have, just like they're playing this old school alpha 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.839 male leadership position and. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.880 They're getting away with it. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.599 I don't like nobody is questioning, and like Jonathan is 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:44.039 literally taking credit for everybody's moves because he's thinking that 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.880 he's in charge of it, and he is. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.440 He's actually he's decided. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.119 He like basically tells everybody how to vote, yeah, based 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:50.880 on whoever. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:51.400 Whispers in his ear. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.279 And it's like King Jonathan, maybe we should go through 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:01.760 exactly everybody has to call to him and Joe and 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.480 kneel down and say we think it should be so 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.880 and so, and then they decide and then they say, 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.560 you know what, you're right, scratch my beard like Marlon 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.320 Brando and Apocalypse Now and say yeah, I think it's 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.719 time to get rid of Serre. And then they do, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.880 and I'm like, they also are killing it at challenging. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.520 I know, im ends up winning Tiff has been great, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.560 Tiff is incredible, but her only hope is like I 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.960 don't understand. Like, so for me, I was like, oh, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.000 they're finally turning on surree, which Will has been saying, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.840 But now I've been I feel like I've been saying 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.159 since Coach got voted out, why are people just letting 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:36.760 Jonathan and Joe wellness game? 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.719 So Aubrey started talking about something that again, this is 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.719 why I would Another of the eight ja billion reasons 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.480 why I would suck at this game is because I'm 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.960 not thinking like this where she's at one. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.960 Point talking about like who should we vote off? 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.120 Who shouldn't Everyone's talking about Rizzo and she's like, no, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.520 I want Rizzo with me at the end because no 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.599 one wants to give that guy two million dollars. You 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.600 got to be thinking about also, who's sitting next to you. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.880 Do you think there's something with that with with John 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.640 and Joe as well, where they're like, fine, bring them 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.640 to the end because no one, after the way they've 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.440 been manipulated or what they're doing or they're lying, no 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.040 one's going to give them the money. So hey, I 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.400 don't want to vote them out because if it's Aubrey, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.320 Joe and Jonathan sitting there at the end. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.000 Most Aubrey's gonna win, you know. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:24.280 I also wonder if there's just something weirdly crocodile brained 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:29.040 about lost on deserted island need big man near. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.560 I think, so, you know, that's what's happening. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.160 I just I think there's just this sense of like 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.240 security around them, and like you know, they're always. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.240 Like topless and taking care of things. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.880 And I feel like it probably is just like, Okay, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.600 we got to keep those guys around primal. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.000 But yeah, but they are. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.280 But that's a problem because they could win the challenges, 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.920 like they're really good at them, and it's like, dude, actually, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.200 I would say Jonathan surprisingly is not as well. No, 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.200 he won last week. So yeah, I don't know, man, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.640 I am yeah, I I'm surprised that they're not thinking 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.680 like that. So you're right, I would be surprised if 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.320 it is somewhat kind of primal and tribal. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.400 You know, it's just you want you go for security 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.160 and you feel secure with these two guys. Yeah, leading 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:09.560 the pack. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:10.440 Yeah again. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.360 George Washington used to go to the congressional delegations in 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.680 his full military uniform every time before he was made general, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.400 and at the time he was like six foot four 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.200 in a land of people that were five ft three, right, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.200 so everyone looked around like, well, that's got. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:25.600 To be the leader. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.040 I mean, it's in charge. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:28.760 Yeah, it just comes down to that. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.120 I heard a director once I forget who it was. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.120 It was in response to the idea that you know 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.240 how you always see pictures of directors on movie sets 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:36.400 and they're always wearing hats. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:37.920 They're always and I heard. 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.440 A director say like, oh no, I always have to 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.839 have a hat. And it's like he's like something, it's 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.280 a different hat every movie and every job. But I 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.280 need a hat because I'm the captain and I want 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.880 everybody to know that the captain's wearing the. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:48.840 Hat, okay, you know. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.719 And I don't know if that I honestly don't know 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.200 if that meant baseball hat or like he would find 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:54.000 a specialty hat. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.800 I don't know, but it was an interesting thing. He's like, 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.199 you you want to stand out for the rest of 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.640 the crew. You're like, you're the guy on the hat, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.880 so everyone you're. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.959 The giant guy with long hair and a bushy beard 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.600 on a deserted island with huge muscles, like I'm gonna 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.520 I want that guy on my team, right, Like I 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.680 just want that guy on my team. So yeah, no, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.400 I agree with you. I think there's something prim I 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:15.480 also don't understand. I Again, one of the things I 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.760 like to talk to about everybody that I wish i'd 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.239 ask Christian more questions because I keep thinking. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.360 Like, damn it, I wish I had I had the 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.360 exact same thought. Dude, it was too quick of an awer, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:23.720 it was. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.360 And one of the things I want to ask is 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.839 how do you spend most of your day? Because if 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.400 you're sitting around for say four hours, why aren't those 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.080 four hours spent trying to find a night right? Because 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.880 Devon's does it, and everyone's like maybe we should go 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.559 with them where it's like, how are you not just scouring, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.400 like if you're doing nothing else, I know, spend the 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:42.959 whole day looking at every tree? 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.200 I yeah, And I'm not sure why they haven't been 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.240 looking the second because like they've had idols out every 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.200 time that somebody's you know, yes, it's weird to me, man, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.720 I I'm the same way. And also its just like 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.439 everyone's so scared that Devon's is gonna find an idol, 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:58.280 So they're like following. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.560 I'm like, also, just let them find it, Like, yeah, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:02.480 that big of a deal. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.880 But is he the idol worshiper or does he actually 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:06.800 just look. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:08.760 You know what I mean? 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.400 It's like but I mean he's he goes out and 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.440 he actively seeks them, so it's like he's the idle word. No, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.200 he's he's actually getting up and looking for them where 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:16.600 you're not. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.800 So I don't understand why they're not. I don't get it. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.120 Yeah, yeah, I would. That's the way I would be. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.199 The second I'd arrived on that island. I would be 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.400 spending all my time that I wasn't gathering firewood or whatever. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:26.840 Yep. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.040 But I guess they're all just so much. They're just 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.320 gossiping and socialisms. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:31.280 I guess. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.280 But it just seems to me the things you do, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.959 or you find an idol, then you tell no one 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.280 nobody you have an idol, no one, whether they're your 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.959 best friend, your teammate, your twin, You just you keep 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:43.840 it in your pocket. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:44.480 And you shut your mouth. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.840 And it doesn't seem like anybody can do that, so 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.719 because then everyone wants to flush the idol out. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.160 It's like, don't tell anyone you have one? 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.960 Yeah, crazy? 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.240 All right, So episode begins, Uh, this is a two 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.600 two part episode with two did you know that? 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.319 I didn't know that. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.000 No, we should have able to figure it out doing 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.960 the math from like when the finale is and whatnot. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.640 So yeah, I was like, oh, there's gonna be a Yeah. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:12.800 So right after Ozzie's voted out, Devons is flying solo 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.120 and uh yeah, I mean, I'm glad they put these 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.800 episodes together because this if this first tribal had just 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.000 been an episode unto itself, it was pretty boring. Yeah, 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.600 because it begins with them saying it's gonna be Devons 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:27.840 and yeah, you know that guy we said we're going 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:28.319 to vote out. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.400 We voted yea. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.000 So it was interesting. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.240 I was really curious to see how the whole Rizzo 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.640 Serie Ozzie thing would play out based on you know, 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.319 and you know, Sirie was pissed at Ozzie like when 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:41.640 she found out. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.680 So yeah, so it's too you know, she didn't want 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:46.319 to have you know. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.280 She she didn't want him to go obviously, and I 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.439 think it would have been tough for her. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.040 She would have been in a tough position if she 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.640 had to vote more. 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.000 Or against him, but as it was, they had been separated, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.559 there was no communication that way, but Rizzo. 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:58.160 Just let Ozzie go. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.400 I would love to see if anybody else told a 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:06.080 SuRie that that Ozzie told the plan, because it never 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.000 even came into her head when Rizzo got there, that 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:08.360 he would. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.400 He could be making this up because he easily could 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:10.800 have gone back. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.160 I think everybody, that's what I mean. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.520 I think everybody you know told her like, no, he 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.079 was walking around saying, you guys are going to the 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.160 end and that kind of I. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.720 Mean, it seems like Syria is just on top of everything, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.120 like ye knows everything, and that's I think that seems 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.160 to be her biggest skill set. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.160 I mean, they talk about her being like manipulative in 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:26.920 a good way. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.079 But it's actually that she's more like she just has 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.480 her ear to the ground and her instincts are so 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.679 right on. Like every time she's like you know what, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.839 I actually think she's spot on. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.000 She knows exactly what is happening. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.440 So to me, it's like her real superpower is just 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.199 the ability to, you know, keep up with. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.040 The word on the street. Yes, but what's the word 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:47.480 on the beach? 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:47.720 Ye? 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.880 And then and then read it correctly and read those 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.240 sort of you know, the signals. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.280 She understands that knowledge is power and she's usually holding 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:55.640 all of it. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:56.160 It's crazy. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.600 Yeah, So I thought this was so funny that Jonathan 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.040 just completely takes credit for voting Ozzie out. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.679 Oh yeah, we did it when. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.040 We like, Aubrey's just letting him do it, yep, Like 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.560 because you know this is and this is the fun 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.160 part that you've never seen is like they get to 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.680 present their case to the jury before you know if 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.760 they're in the final or whatever. And so a lot 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.199 of times you'll see somebody like it, like Aubrey in 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.560 this moment will be able to say Jonathan thought that 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.600 was all his idea, but it was entirely and if 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.600 she isn't, and so she could let him take the 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.080 fall for it, right Like people that are upset about 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.360 Ozzy getting voted out will turn on Jonathan right now maybe, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.080 but then she can say later, yep, that was always 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.240 and none of you knew it because he just wanted 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:38.920 to take the credit. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.400 So again, keeping your mouth shut a big moves. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.760 But then keep your mouth shut, don't celebrate, don't ever 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:48.200 like get cocky. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.640 Just I think she could win, Yeah, I think she 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:52.920 could win. Yep. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.400 Yeah, so I think she's letting him be the leader, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:56.880 which is just damn smart. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:57.320 Yep. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.360 All right, Devin's immediately starts hunting for Idle Smart, which 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.560 also makes Aubrey happy because she's like, great, that's going 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.520 to put a target on him, which turns out to 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:10.040 be exactly the case. And then Devon's has this moment 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.080 where he starts crying in the hammock with Joe. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.320 And he's trying to hold it together. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.400 Yeah. Man, I totally teared up this episode. Yeah. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.400 Well this and then his whole star speech during the 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.000 tribal that was really a movie and I was like, oh, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.040 this is really sweet. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.520 Yeah, it's funny because he is. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:29.160 This like he's kind of perceived as this like weasly goofball, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.280 but he's incredibly positive. He doesn't hurt anybody's feelings. It 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.720 seems like, you know, like and he's like smiling two 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:37.680 people's faces. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:38.880 And be like I had to vote for you, yea 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:39.520 more I tried. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.760 And I think that's a really good way to play 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.720 like it's he's not Weasley and. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.880 What if serisay, She's like, yeah, thanks that and two 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.120 dollars will get me a cup of coffee right right. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.680 Devon's and he's like, hey, it is what it is. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:50.960 I know I got to play. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.400 Yeah, it's too bad he got screwed this year. Yeah, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:55.320 he's a fun player. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.040 It is interesting as a neophyte coming in seeing how 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.600 the different style react to the different gameplay. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.240 It really is, really, it's it's an interesting thing to watch. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.560 Yeah, and I think you know, the key that you 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.680 couldn't appreciate those first you know, first half of the 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.720 season is that you have to fly under the radar, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.760 you know, like you do not want your personality up 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.280 frown because people will just turn on you or you'll 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:19.920 just have if you make too big of moves like 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:21.480 this is when you make the big moves. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.760 This is when you're blind sided if you're too big, 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.920 like Coach was just too big too early, but he 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:26.600 just took. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.080 Over not you know, strategically and socially. That's just nobody wants. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:31.920 Is Jenna? 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.560 Is that the name of the first girl that went 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.640 and Genevieve, No Jenna, not even Genevieve, this very first 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.360 woman that went that went Jenna, Yeah, who literally walked 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.720 onto the islands like, hey, everybody, I'm Jeny, we should 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:43.440 vote out Bobby. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.840 And it was like she's gonna go. He just opened 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.280 your mouth, now you're gone. Yeah yeah yeah. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.960 People let people run and just become their friend and supporters. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:16:07.160