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Speaker 2: Very happy Easter Sunday to all those out there, VJ.

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Speaker 2: We got a big Sunday. It's got those NBA playoffs

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Speaker 2: up from running. We'll get into what happened yesterday. And

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Speaker 2: right now we're watching the thunder ease by the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 2: Sixty one to twenty eight. Yeah, sixty one to twenty

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Speaker 2: eight is the score of an NBA playoff game.

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Speaker 4: That we're watching right now, VJ. And you complain about

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Speaker 4: the college basketball when it's in the WNBA scores, and

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Speaker 4: here we are when an NBA playoff game on opening weekend,

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Speaker 4: on Easter Sunday. And first of all, happy Easter to

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Speaker 4: We love you guys. God blessed, Happy Easter to you

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Speaker 4: all man. Always a pleasure to being one man. Steve Harmon,

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Speaker 4: Harmon and Husky. So yeah, this game right here, but listen, okay,

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Speaker 4: see is clearly you know it's either them in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: I think it's okay see, they're the best team in

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Speaker 4: the league. And when you're the number one seed and

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Speaker 4: you're going into the playoffs, I believe that you're supposed

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Speaker 4: to as the number one seed. You ushould win by

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Speaker 4: five gentlemen, sweep or sweet like the eighth seed just

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Speaker 4: played a play and they have no business being on

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Speaker 4: the court with you all year long. The separation of

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Speaker 4: these two teams is astronomical. And then you add a

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Speaker 4: sore ankle to Jean Moram and this team's been resting

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Speaker 4: for what the last ten eleven days. They're fresh, they're

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Speaker 4: at home. They know what it's like. They get eliminated

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Speaker 4: early and feel that pain they learned the last couple

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Speaker 4: of years. Maybe this is the year, like, okay, let's

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Speaker 4: go set the tone for Remember when like Shaq and

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Speaker 4: Kobe got going, and when Jordan and Piper really got

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Speaker 4: going first rounds Dog it was it was ass whooping

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Speaker 4: galores like they were, there was no close series. This

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Speaker 4: is what you're supposed to do, so it's it's not

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Speaker 4: that shocking to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, yesterday I did the show with our good friend

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, who's been part of them at He's been

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Speaker 2: the Rockets TV analyst for the last four years, so

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Speaker 2: he's been obviously very close to the Rockets. Had a

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Speaker 2: you know, who would have predicted the Rockets would be

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Speaker 2: the two seed in the West this year, But he

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Speaker 2: was just you know, you know, we're sitting there saying,

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Speaker 2: how is it that nobody is taking Okay, see, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, they won sixty eight games this year and

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Speaker 2: Houston that's the top two seeds, and was nobody's taking them.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're saying, Oh, it's going to be the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be the Nuggets, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: the Warriors, it's going to be the Clippers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're talking about this, and then yesterday you and I

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Speaker 2: are in pretty much lockstep when it comes to this

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Speaker 2: Lakers team. And you know, last week I was talking

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Speaker 2: about how this is going to be Lebron James' last

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Speaker 2: year in a Lakers uniform, or last night it almost

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Speaker 2: looked like his last game in a Lakers uniform. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was just it was an absolute nightmare. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, Magic Johnson has been going to just Berserco

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Speaker 2: on social media last night and this morning, just ripping

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Speaker 2: the team for lack of effort like a preparation. He said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick, you did a nice job during the regular season.

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Speaker 2: You failed in game one of the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So you know that.

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Speaker 2: Could just completely flip this entire situation if the Lakers

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Speaker 2: go down to Minnesota. By the way, you know a

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Speaker 2: reminder again, Tea Wolves did get to the Western Conference

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Speaker 2: Finals a year ago before they lost to Luca and

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. But I just again, it just seemed

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Speaker 2: weird and something that you know, yesterday we brought up

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Speaker 2: the fact that how is it that no one seems

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Speaker 2: to be giving the thunder any respect or the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the Rockets matchup against the Warriors,

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Speaker 2: you might think about this. In three games against the

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Speaker 2: Rockets this year, Steph Curry averaged sixteen points a game,

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Speaker 2: shooting thirty six percent from the field.

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Speaker 4: They shut him down, rough him up.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know why, but after watching the Lakers

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Speaker 2: surprised if the Western Conference Finals does come down to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it might. But I'll answer your question. I love

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Speaker 4: the question. Why are we not talking about these two teams?

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Speaker 4: And this is something I've echoed time and time again

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Speaker 4: about how we talk about the NBA and this business.

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Speaker 4: You know why we're talking about Clippers, Lakers, the Warriors.

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Speaker 4: Like teams that do not have a shot to legitimately

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Speaker 4: win the championship, they can make it interesting. I think

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Speaker 4: think if the Lakers rebound and play defense. They didn't

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Speaker 4: play any defense yesterday. Also, the three point shots that

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Speaker 4: Minnesota was hitting seems to be the story of the game.

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Speaker 4: Go look at fast break points. It's twenty five to eight.

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Speaker 4: That means Minnesota got out and running and the Lakers

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Speaker 4: weren't getting back on defense. And that's probably what Magic

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Speaker 4: Johnson is talking about when he talks about the effort.

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Speaker 4: And when you're there covering the game and you see

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Speaker 4: and you're watching it, and you're there watching it live,

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Speaker 4: you can see the whole court and you can see

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Speaker 4: guys jogging lollygag and standing back complaining into the reps,

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Speaker 4: while Minnesota's like, Okay, well you stand back here, We're

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Speaker 4: about to get out here and go. That's the reason

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Speaker 4: why we don't talk about the two top teams because

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Speaker 4: they don't have the sexy player. You have Sga. But

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Speaker 4: as he's a quiet guy, people are comparing him to

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Speaker 4: James Harden. He's a foul hunter. That's become the narrative

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Speaker 4: this year for him, is he foul hunts. He's really

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Speaker 4: not that good. He's no. This guy can play. He

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Speaker 4: led the league, and he let the league and score.

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Speaker 4: If you lead the National Basketball Association and scoring in

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Speaker 4: any season in your life, you're a pretty damn good

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Speaker 4: basketball player. You're not foul hunting. Guys can't foul hunt

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Speaker 4: to thirty plus points a game. That's just part of

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Speaker 4: the game in the way the game is called nowadays. Tulton,

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Speaker 4: Reggie Miller, he admitted he kicked his leg out like

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Speaker 4: If the Rep's gonna call it, this is what I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna do. So they don't have the sexy guys. Who's

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Speaker 4: the sexy guy? Steph Curry Kawhi Leonard's injury. Can Kawhi

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Speaker 4: Leonard be full blown this year? Full?

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Speaker 4: Dis excuse me? Then you have Lebron, Luca all these

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Speaker 4: other players. Who's minis I mean, who you're talking about

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Speaker 4: You think about who you're talking about, But we shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be talking Dylan Brooks. I mean, Dylan Brice is right,

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Speaker 4: he's the guy that gets the most attention. It's that guy, right.

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Speaker 4: It's not Jalen Green, it's not Van Fleet, it's not

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Speaker 4: even Emoi Dunkle, who's doing a great job coaching the team.

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Speaker 4: That's how you get to the number two. You get

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Speaker 4: a coach that going through some stuff in Boston, but.

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Speaker 2: West a phenomenal jo right, the guy that's and that's

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Speaker 2: something we were talking with Ryan yesterday about, you know,

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Speaker 2: all the controversy when he left Boston and everything else,

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Speaker 2: and so everybody was looking at the Rockets like, really

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Speaker 2: you're gonna hire this guy? Yeah? Uh?

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Speaker 5: And in two years, like what he has done.

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Speaker 2: I mean in two years, he's taken the Rockets from

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Speaker 2: completely nothing all of a sudden to a two seed

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Speaker 2: in the West. So as far as the Lakers are concerned.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday it really was shocking. I mean, think about this.

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Speaker 2: This was the first time that they had actually hosted

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Speaker 2: a first round game one in the playoffs since twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: so you know, they've been in the playing turned him

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Speaker 5: Years, and they were, you know.

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Speaker 2: Rested, and I know, interviews with Lebron through the week saying, yes,

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Speaker 2: a good time for us to sort of get our

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Speaker 2: because he's obviously had the groin injury and everything else.

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Speaker 5: And they just came out flat.

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Speaker 2: I mean they they the beginning of the game, sixteen

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Speaker 2: weird was the Timbrels couldn't make anything in the first

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Speaker 2: so it looked like it was going to be a

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Speaker 2: again Magic Johnson social media brought up and it's it's

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Speaker 2: a valid point.

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Speaker 5: We're the adjustments.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're down eleven and a half time, and

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Speaker 2: then the third quarter starts and it's you're down twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like gone.

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Speaker 2: And this has been a problem all season long for

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Speaker 2: the Lakers third quarters. I don't know what's going on

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Speaker 2: halftime with this team, but they they come out flat.

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Speaker 2: But in a playoff game that happens. It was it

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Speaker 2: was so you know, you say, all right, okay, it

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Speaker 2: was an aberration. Lakers should come back in Game two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they should come back in Game two. It's coming up

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday or at home.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you.

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Speaker 2: Lose two at home, the series is over. I don't

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe the Lakers can rebound and find a

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Speaker 2: way to beat the Tea Wolves. But I agree with

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Speaker 2: you VJ. The idea that this team is a serious

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Speaker 2: contender for an NBA championship, I just don't see it.

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Speaker 4: Also to something else, I want to point out that

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Speaker 4: this is not a knock on Lebron. These are just

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Speaker 4: the facts. Luca's twenty five Lebron's forty. Like there is

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Speaker 4: a difference. People like, Seriously, this is not Lebron's team anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's not. It's not his franchise any even though it

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Speaker 4: may still feel like it. They are planning that it's

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Speaker 4: Lucas squad. Luca goes out yesterday. I just I'm sorry

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Speaker 4: I had to throw that in there about Luca didn't come

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Speaker 4: out flat yesterday. Luca came out bawling yesterday, like he's

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Speaker 4: been doing for like the last eight weeks. He's been

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Speaker 4: on fire.

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Speaker 2: He had one assist in the game, though, God's gonna

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Speaker 2: shots assist in the game.

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Speaker 4: He's got to make shots. God's got to make shots.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's got it all around. Where lost the

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Speaker 4: rees yesterday? Where was rue yesterday? Exactly? God's got to

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Speaker 4: make shots, and those guys are making shots. Him and

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Speaker 4: Lebron are averaging eight rebounds a piece.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was also interesting stat of the game. You know

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Speaker 2: how many fowls were called on the Lakers in the game,

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Speaker 2: ten ten twenty.

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Speaker 5: One fouls on the TVLS.

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Speaker 2: So the officials if you watch that game, and I'm

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Speaker 2: certainly far from a Laker hater here, because I've been

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Speaker 2: following the Lakers my entire life, ten fouls called on

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Speaker 2: the Lakers in forty eight minutes, Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: I mean, the refs did everything.

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Speaker 2: How about when Lebron had the dunk and he was

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Speaker 2: hit on the arm, but where there was no call

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Speaker 2: and he will it's right at the officials starts and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gonna tee him up? Hold on, there

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Speaker 5: All Right, most entertaining game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Mix had a great comeback, easy win for the Paces

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Speaker 2: So halftime thunder all over the Grizzlies sixty eight to

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Speaker 2: Got into you you know why Inexplicably no one seems

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Speaker 4: Did they get the job done? Or did the Clippers

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Speaker 5: In the series.

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Speaker 2: I think they're the better team, and I think if anything,

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Speaker 2: You know, it was very uncharacteristic of the way we

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Speaker 2: And whether it's the Clippers or the Nuggets going up

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Speaker 5: I mean Okase.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, I remember the first time the Bulls got

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Speaker 4: So beat him in five. I love I love this series. Also,

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Speaker 4: Speaking of things that can't happen, Kawhi can't have seven turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Think I could be healthy now. I did want to

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Speaker 4: see are you going to try to prove? Like, are

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: Kawhi is this cool, laid back, doesn't say much kind

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Speaker 4: I know professional athletes, they have chips. Man, they want

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Speaker 4: watch it yesterday, Like you said, it just looked like

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Speaker 4: He's eleven to twenty two from the field, like Harden play.

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Speaker 2: and most Improved Player. He'll definitely be one of the

432
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Speaker 2: three finalists for both those awards. How did that happen?

433
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Speaker 2: Everyone will tell you James Harden Harden? And now you know, Tuesday,

434
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: I was out at in Tuadome covering Clippers practice and

435
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Speaker 2: they actually had Zubots and Hardens standing next to each other,

436
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Speaker 2: you know, talking with the media, and it was funny

437
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Speaker 2: because Zubots sort of referred to because he goes, yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: you know, my name's never been mentioned for Anny Awards,

439
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you know, he's talked about

440
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Speaker 2: again for Defensive Player of the Year, Most Improved maybe

441
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Speaker 2: all NBA for the season he had, and you know,

442
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 2: people were asking him like what was the difference, and

443
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 2: he looked over he's He's like this guy, I mean,

444
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 2: James Harden is a phenomenal player. But I agree with

445
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Speaker 2: you on Kawhi because when you think about this, so

446
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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard two time NBA Finals MVP, member of the

447
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Speaker 2: seventy fifth Anniversary team, as with James James Harden obviously,

448
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Speaker 2: and I just felt in watching him force things yesterday

449
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Speaker 2: that is the case.

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Speaker 5: Harden just seemed to Harden had a phenomenal game.

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Speaker 4: He's just as hard as what we call a baller

452
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Speaker 4: like he just he's just there's nights he's gonna, you know,

453
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Speaker 4: not it's not gonna look. But he came up that game,

454
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Speaker 4: of course he did. He listen. They should have won

455
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Speaker 4: the game. But here's the thing in the playoffs, when

456
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Speaker 4: you have a chance, saying with my beloved Pistons yesterday,

457
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Speaker 4: when you got a chance to steal game one, is

458
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Speaker 4: the lower seed, you gotta close the deal, you do.

459
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Speaker 4: I don't think the Pistons are gonna win game two.

460
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Speaker 4: I don't think the Clippers are gonna win Game two.

461
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Speaker 4: You had your shot. These home teams now know, okay,

462
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Speaker 4: all right, who we got through this one, all right,

463
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Speaker 4: but let's not let's not. Let's not let's not have

464
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Speaker 4: to score twenty one straight points to knock off this

465
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Speaker 4: young Pistons team with their best player not playing well,

466
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Speaker 4: where Tobias Harris has to be the guy that shows up.

467
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Speaker 4: But how love's that guy been in the league. He's

468
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Speaker 4: been in the playoffs a bunch of times. He knows

469
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Speaker 4: how this goes. So you can see that, you can

470
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Speaker 4: see the youth, you can see just the even with

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Speaker 4: the Clippers just the mindset of we got the lead,

472
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Speaker 4: now we come out high and then things just fall

473
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Speaker 4: apart hard and does this thing Kawhi is pushing too much?

474
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Speaker 4: You're getting thirteen points from the bench, you give up

475
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Speaker 4: twenty turnovers and twenty nine points off those turnovers. You

476
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Speaker 4: just can't do that in a game won when you

477
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Speaker 4: got the league. You gotta finish that Gale, man, And

478
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Speaker 4: they didn't, and they could be I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they win this series. Man. I know some people think

480
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 4: they're a better team. But if you're a better team,

481
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Speaker 4: then you close those games.

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Speaker 2: Well they again, Yeah, your golden opportunity to really take

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Speaker 2: a strangle hole in the series by winning Game one

484
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Speaker 2: on the road. They failed on that. Let's find out

485
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Speaker 2: what is trending right now. Speaking of the Clippers, are

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Speaker 2: resident Clippers experts. And by the way, Moncie, like I said,

487
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Speaker 2: first time I've ever been doing two at Dumb.

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Speaker 7: I mean he's out there for clip. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 2: The practice it's a complex. I know you think of arena, Okay,

490
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Speaker 2: I walked in the empty arena, took a couple of pictures,

491
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Speaker 2: but the practice facility it was gigantic.

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Speaker 5: It's all one huge complex.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty amazing.

494
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it was very frustrating yesterday for

495
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Speaker 2: your Clippers because it was a game you felt like

496
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Speaker 2: they should have won.

497
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Speaker 5: They felt like they should have won, not just that.

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Speaker 8: It's just you go back to all the times the

499
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Speaker 8: Clippers have done something like this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know where they lose it at the end.

501
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 8: Now, I it was the Clippers to win, and they

502
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 8: definitely lost it.

503
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Speaker 7: But I also am giving the Nuggets credit.

504
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 8: They hit the big shots. They still had to do

505
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Speaker 8: their job.

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Speaker 6: You know.

507
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Speaker 8: It wasn't like we just spiraled out of control and

508
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 8: completely lost the game. I hated that turnover by Kawhi

509
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 8: where Jamal Murray knocked it out of his hands, Like

510
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Speaker 8: just that was a half assed.

511
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Speaker 2: What was going on with Van Gundy and Jokic wrestling

512
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: with basketball? We played that highlight on TV several times.

513
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: I kept replaying. I'm like, what is I mean? Van

514
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Speaker 2: Gundy's out of his mind?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, passion, I don't know,

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Speaker 8: I don't have another answer.

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Speaker 5: Businessides zee he was the coach and he grabbed the leg.

518
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Speaker 4: Remember that was that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He was he was on Alans one morning.

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Speaker 10: He's on his leg trying to break that out of

522
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 10: that fight out it just really fast your take on

523
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Speaker 10: our our ederless of Kawhi kind of forcing yesterday like

524
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Speaker 10: pressure and do you believe there's anything up here where

525
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Speaker 10: I got it?

526
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Speaker 4: Because this could be my last I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he cares. He's done it. He's and

528
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 7: people have been talking this whole time.

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Speaker 8: I also don't think he cares because it's like when

530
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Speaker 8: people want to criticize him, they criticize him, and at

531
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Speaker 8: the same time, the don't want to give him the

532
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Speaker 8: credit when he deserves the credit.

533
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Speaker 4: I think I never I lay off because his body's

534
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: let him down. You can't, you can't quantify that.

535
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Speaker 8: But in the media, in the media, it's like it's

536
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Speaker 8: all criticism because his body can't hang.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Never, never the credit when he deserves a credit. Like

539
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 8: so I think he's kind of like who cares what

540
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Speaker 8: people say?

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Speaker 4: I lead it too, franchises's champions.

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Speaker 7: What else is he?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 11: So that's what I think. But I actually and I

545
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 11: don't think he was overdoing it. I thought Norman Palell

546
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 11: was playing hero ball in some of that game, and

547
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Speaker 11: I was like, you stop stop playing hero ball, Norman Powell.

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Speaker 7: I get it.

549
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 8: You got us here without Kawhi because.

550
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 7: Of you, we got the fifty wins.

551
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Speaker 8: Interesting, But now that Kawhi is back, you were you

552
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 8: gotta fall.

553
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Speaker 7: You got a little bit, a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit a smid.

555
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

556
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Speaker 8: Now, if you have the hot hand, I trust that

557
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 8: Harden and Kawhi will give you the ball, you know

558
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 8: what I mean, Like they're not afraid to give the.

559
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Speaker 7: Ball to the hot hand.

560
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Speaker 8: But I thought Norman Powell was the one playing. It's

561
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Speaker 8: a little bit of hero ball, especially in the first half.

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Speaker 7: All right, enough about that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, do you want me to tell you that

564
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Speaker 8: the thunder are just crushing the Grizzlies as you guys

565
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Speaker 8: have been talking about bar seventy eight to thirty six.

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Speaker 8: And also SGA is two of ten, So it's not

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Speaker 8: because of Sga.

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Speaker 7: Shay Giljos Alexander is not having a good game right now.

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Speaker 8: He is in spite of his performance, they are crushing

570
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Speaker 8: the Grizzlies right now, John.

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Speaker 4: Are you saying this is a good basketball team?

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Speaker 8: Okay, Wow, I think it's gonna I think it's I

573
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Speaker 8: am pretty impressed that Shay is having such a rough

574
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Speaker 8: start and that they're winning by this much.

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Speaker 7: I will see forty two point lead.

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Speaker 8: Yes, no, that is a ridiculous, oh well balanced performance

577
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 8: right now by OKC through and through. This was the

578
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 8: largest lead at halftime in franchise history in a playoff

579
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Speaker 8: game for OKAC. Plenty of basketball to come, but this

580
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 8: one seems like it's done early. Let's check in on baseball.

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Speaker 8: The Yankees have added another run. They're up on the

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Speaker 8: Rais to zero top of the fourth inning. The Mets

583
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Speaker 8: also another run. It started with a Francisco lind Or

584
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Speaker 8: walkoff homer, so they're up on the Cardinals two zero

585
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Speaker 8: top of the fourth inning. Brewers at home over the

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Speaker 8: A's two zero bottom of the first inning as well.

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Speaker 8: The Mariners beating the Blue Jays six to two after

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Speaker 8: two innings. Matt Olsen started things off for the Braves

589
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Speaker 8: with the two run shot, and they've added some more

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Speaker 8: since it's five zero over the Twins at home top

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Speaker 8: of the fourth, but the Twins have the bases loaded

592
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Speaker 8: and they still have two outs to go in this inning.

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Speaker 8: The Philly started things off with a Bryce Harper to

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Speaker 8: RBI double, then a Nick Costillano's RBI single, all in

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Speaker 8: the first inning, so they're beating the Marlins three one

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Speaker 8: bottom of the fourth in Philadelphia, and the Reds have

597
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Speaker 8: just exploded. They were just tied with the Orioles at

598
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Speaker 8: one apiece and nowsand Sinnati is up six to one.

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Speaker 7: Top of the third inning.

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Speaker 8: Red Sox with the four to two lead over the

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Speaker 8: White Sox at home bottom of the third.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, big day back to.

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Speaker 2: You, all right, mon say we have a huge Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got a ridiculous amount to talk about today.

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Speaker 5: Once again, Harvin and Husky.

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Speaker 2: much more coming up on the Draft later on in

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Speaker 2: the show. I did want to bring up one story though,

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Speaker 2: about something. It's a tradition that I feel is the

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Speaker 2: most ridiculous tradition in sports, and that is retiring numbers.

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Has more players in the College Football Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: than any other school, including seven Heisman Trophy winners. Do

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Speaker 2: you know how many numbers Notre Dame is retired?

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Speaker 4: Sounded like a trick question, So I'm going to say zero.

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Speaker 5: Zero, zero, Yeah, Notre Dame.

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Speaker 6: Zero.

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame has never retired a number.

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Speaker 2: An NFL team that I used to work for, the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: have never retired a number. The fact they have twenty

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Speaker 2: Hall of famers never retired a number. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: this idea of retiring numbers.

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Speaker 5: You know how this all started.

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Speaker 2: It started with lou gereg You know when lou gerrig

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Speaker 2: the tragedy of this, you know, incredible baseball player, pride

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00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: of the Yankees, and he gets this crazy als disease

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Speaker 2: and the Yankees decided because they'd only created numbers a

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Speaker 2: few years before that before the ND players didn't even

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Speaker 2: have uniform numbers. They gave him the number four because

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Speaker 2: he hit fourth in the lineup. Baber was number three

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Speaker 2: because he had third in the line So they retired

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Speaker 2: Lou Garrig's number, and this began this tradition of retiring

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Speaker 2: Jersey numbers. So this was called the light when Colorado University,

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Speaker 2: Colorado announced that they're going to retire the numbers of

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, which makes sense the guy won the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 2: I would think if he won a Heisman Trophy, that

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Speaker 2: qualifies you to retire number.

651
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Speaker 5: And then Shador Sanders.

652
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders career at Colorado honestly is the same as

653
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Cordell's short Cordel Stewart was a second team ap All American,

654
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: just like Shador was. This last year, actually his senior year,

655
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: which was the year that Shot Salon won the Heisman,

656
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: just like this past year that Travis Hunter won the

657
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. They actually only lost one game the entire

658
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: year and won their bowl game. That was a much

659
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: better team than nineteen ninety four Colorado team. And then

660
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: on top of that. You have a Colorado team that

661
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: won their only national championship in nineteen ninety with Eric

662
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Bienemy and Dion Figures and all these great players, many

663
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: of which are in the College Football Hall of Fame.

664
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Speaker 2: None of their numbers have been retired by the University

665
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: of Colorado, and yet now Shador Sanders will have his

666
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: number retired. Frankly, I really give a rats ass about

667
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: whether he retires his number, but to really open up

668
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: a Pandora's box when you do that and ignore others

669
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: that maybe as deserving or even more deserving if you

670
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: were to trace the history of Colorado football. I bring

671
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: this up because you have been a big proponent of

672
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Shdor Sanders. We've brought them up many times. With the

673
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: upcoming drivel, continue to update you on that. But what

674
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: was your reaction to the negative reaction of the announcement

675
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: that Shador Sanders, before any member of that nineteen ninety

676
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: Colorado National championship team or players like Cordell Stewart or

677
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: Michael Westbrook, that he should get his number retired.

678
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: My reaction to the negative reaction was no reaction. It

679
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: was just more or less like just something else to

680
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: get mad at Shador Sanders about through the hate for

681
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: Dion Sanders' dad. That's what this is all about. I

682
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: watched Coach Prime's press conference the other day where he said,

683
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: if his last name ain Sanders, we're not talking about this.

684
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: We're just not We're not talking about this, and we

685
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 4: know and we know why we're talking about it. Now.

686
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: I'll go back to the retired number. Thing never bothered me.

687
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, I think it's cool, especially nowadays.

688
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: You put your time in with a franchise and now

689
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: we're's such a business. It's always been a business, but

690
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: even more today. When you're talking contracts and you talk

691
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: and endorsement deals and you're talking sponsor you talking about

692
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: just all the money that goes into all the griminess

693
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: that goes on in the back hallways of pro sports.

694
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: When a player produces and stays with a franchise and

695
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: gives to them hopefully wins a championship, helps build a franchise,

696
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: money helps sell merchandise, help sell tickets, and actually adds

697
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 4: value to the franchise. When you got there was at

698
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: one point four billion, and when you retired it was

699
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: at two point eight billion. That guy should get his

700
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: number retired. That's doing something like Aaron Donald should get

701
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: us never retired by the Rams. He did that much

702
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: with Hi Dan Marino deserve to have his number retired

703
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: by of Dolphins. He did that much from there as

704
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: certain players. I just don't think it can just be anybody. Now.

705
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: The whole thing about Shador and Sanders getting his number

706
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: retires and simple fact, it's just this Steve. Whether people

707
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: like it or not, if the school wants to do it,

708
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: then the school can do it. Nothing and there's nothing,

709
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: absolutely not did that anybody can do about it. It's

710
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: gonna be retired. They have up the value of that

711
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: program and that school there just by him being there

712
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: along with his father and the coach, along with Travis Hunter.

713
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: Did they win a national championship?

714
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 6: No?

715
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: Did they go in a Big Bowl game?

716
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 6: No?

717
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: But they that's what they're building to. It was only

718
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: year what two, It's only year two and they've already

719
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: elevated that program for being one and eleven when he

720
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: got there. I don't have I didn't have a problem

721
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: with him, man. And you know the backlash is coming.

722
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: Shador Sanders is always gonna face back like Deon Sanders

723
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: hasn't played a sport in twenty years, and Deon Standers

724
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: still gets backlash, he still gets criticism. So he lived

725
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: through this. He's ready for, he's prepared for. And fans

726
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: like me, you know, they're gonna be people. They could

727
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: have said they were giving them a statue people to

728
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: hate that. They would have said, they're gonna hang a

729
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: plaque in the football facility. People would have been, well,

730
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: hunters here get a plaque. Did you know such and

731
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: such play guard here, never missed a start for three straight.

732
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: There'll be somebody that finds a player that they think

733
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: should get that. But at the end of the day,

734
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: his dad's the coach, his program wants to do it,

735
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: the school wants to do it, and the damn thing

736
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: nobody could do about it. So you know, I'm happy

737
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: for him. Shador retired, Jerry, I'm happy, Hey n Travis

738
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: on him, like you know, I'm okay with it.

739
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: Man, Well, I agree about the Sanders thing.

740
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 2: And look at did Dion Sanders and Shdora Sanders and

741
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: Travis Sender have an impact on the Colorado football program?

742
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: Obviously?

743
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Uh so that cannot be denied. Again, I'm not a

744
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: proponent of retiring numbers. I don't know what it is.

745
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: You know me, I am like the numbers freak.

746
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: I remember every number, and yet, for some reason, having

747
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: follow sports, I don't pay attention to uniform numbers.

748
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 5: If you were literally asked me, like, what are.

749
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: The uniform numbers of the current starting quarterbacks of the NFL?

750
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: I would probably miss two thirds of them. I do

751
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: not pay attention to uniform numbers. Do I don't know why.

752
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm a numbers guy, and yet, for some reason,

753
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: jersey numbers do not register with me.

754
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: In my point, the Notre Dame also, all right, so

755
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: what that's norda Dame's fault? If you you listen, I

756
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: hate nord. I'm gonna met you go. So I hate

757
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: nord Dame. But if you guys don't want to retire

758
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: all the greatness that's come out of norda Dame, like

759
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: Joe Montana can't get his jersey retired, to Rome Bett,

760
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: Tim Brown can't get their jersey retired, You're like, who

761
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: the hell do you guys think you are? That these

762
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: people can come pour into your program and make you

763
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: the legendary program you are and they can't get their

764
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: number retired. That's shame on Nord to.

765
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 5: Day well and Raiders.

766
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: By the way, USC second most players in the College

767
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. The only numbers they have retired

768
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: are their eight Heisman Trophy winners.

769
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: And that's fine.

770
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: That's some of the greatest offensive linemen in the history

771
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: of the game. No only win See again, you won

772
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: the heismin Yeah, I think you should have your number retired.

773
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: All right.

774
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're gonna start sneaking

775
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: into this NFL Draft, which is just four days away.

776
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 5: You mentioned Shrudeur Sanders.

777
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: He is a lightning rod on just about every subject,

778
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 2: including the upcoming draft.

779
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781
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784
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Speaker 2: I've been a husky Fox Sports Sunday. We are alive

785
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: from the tiraq dot com studios right now. Okay, see

786
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: hanging on to a fifty one point lead over Memphis

787
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: with four minutes to go in the third quarter, ninety

788
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: nine forty eight. Honestly, this is an embarrassment to the

789
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: NBA that you have a playoff game like this, And

790
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, it was funny. I was talking about this

791
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: yesterday with Mark Medina, our NBA insider, just how important

792
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: this postseason is for the NBA. It's been a bad

793
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: year for the NBA, a lot of negative pr I know,

794
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Adam Silver points the finger at the media for all

795
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: the negativity towards the NBA. But they need a good

796
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: playoff they need you know, you have this golden opportunity

797
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: over the next couple of months to get people focused

798
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: on the NBA. Yeah, you get best past the NFL Draft.

799
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: You know, baseball heads to midseason. This is the time

800
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: for the NBA to shine. Potentially got some good playoff matchups. Well,

801
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: they they need some very competitive series here.

802
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: It's a good playoffs though. You have to explain that, well.

803
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 5: You have to.

804
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: You have to get people talking about a playoff series, right,

805
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: This is this is where when you need villains. And

806
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: we talked a lot about this, right with Caitlin Clark

807
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: and Angel Reese and that dynamic duo and what it

808
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: meant for the college game, and moved on to the WNBA.

809
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: Got people talking, who's talking about the NBA right now,

810
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, And this is why there hell been on

811
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: a on a Luka Doncic.

812
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 5: I mean that was a talking point.

813
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: When this incredible trade came down between the Mavericks and

814
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers, people were talking about the NBA.

815
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 4: That's the problem though, We're talking about players and not

816
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: the game and teams. That's the point that I'm making. Yeah,

817
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: that's the point I'm Marylander. That's the point I've been

818
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: saying for at least maybe three or four years. I've

819
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: been on this train of we got to get away

820
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: from this man. We're missing good teams. And now you're like, oh,

821
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: no one wants to see a finals with Oka. See

822
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: why not? They're in the top like seven of the

823
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: top ten defensive categories. They have the guy is gonna

824
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: probably be the MVP, the guy that led the league

825
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: and scored in a young team's all new fresh faces,

826
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: Chet SGA, you know, all these all these young guys,

827
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 4: and we're not we're not interested that we were holding

828
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: on to the past too long. Steph thirty seven, Lebron forty.

829
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: I've always said, if that's Kevin Durant, right, if those

830
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: are the guys we're gonna hinge our eight month talking

831
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: talking you know, points on. Of course, when you get

832
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, you think, oh man, who's gonna watch

833
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 4: these series? Like the Indiana Milwaukee series. That would be

834
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: a great series if Dame Lillard can play. But we

835
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: saw yesterday, No Dame Lillard. It's just too much for

836
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: Jannis to beat that team by himself. He's not gonna

837
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: be able to do it. So who's gonna talk about that? Serious? Nobody?

838
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: We're not interested in Boston for some reason. Who is

839
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: the defending the defending NBA champions. We're not interested in

840
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: the Boston. We damn, you're not interested in Cleveland? Right,

841
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: So who are you gonna talk about you? We're we're

842
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: gonna lean right back to those names. So when you

843
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: say they need a good playoffs, sounds like to me,

844
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: we need what Stepha Lebron to get to the finals

845
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: for it to be considered a good playoffs. That I'm just.

846
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, remember remember those years this point, so

847
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: if we never had it where two teams face each

848
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: other four straight years in the NBA finals until that

849
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: cast right Golden State run. But there was there was

850
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: all kinds of elements in that you know, first of all,

851
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: you had Lebron returning to Cleveland, you had obviously Steph

852
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: the seventy three win team ends up losing on their

853
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: home court Game seven.

854
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 5: Then Kevin Durant shows up, and now now you.

855
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: Know, now you're really hating on a Warriors team that

856
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: was popular off of a sudden, they're unpopular because Kevin

857
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Durant shows up. So these are the kind of little

858
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: storylines that get people going. All right again, I want

859
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: to touch very briefly because they're gonna have much more

860
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: on the NFL Draft, which is just four days away.

861
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: Interesting note about the year's NFL draft. All thirty two

862
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: teams right now are sitting on their picks.

863
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 5: There is there's not right now. The draft order is exactly.

864
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: As it finished. There's been no trades in or out

865
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: of the first round. I don't know if we've ever

866
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: gotten this late to the draft, where it's literally thirty

867
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: two teams in a row. Everyone's got their own pick.

868
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: No one's moved up, and no one's moved down. That way,

869
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: here's what I would say. I think the overall view

870
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: of this draft is there's just not that kind of player.

871
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: I think the teams that traditionally trust their board.

872
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 5: I mean, you're paying.

873
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Guys to evaluate talent, right, this is what you're pay

874
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: guys all you along. So you set up your draft

875
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: board and you look at the draft board. Those teams

876
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: that traditionally take the best player available, regardless of position,

877
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: usually come out on top. Go back to Green Bay

878
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: when they drafted Aaron Rodgers. They didn't need a quarterback.

879
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Brett Farv was in his private at that point, but

880
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: they looked at the board and they're like, far the

881
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: best player left on the board. So you got to

882
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: take up I would. I hope more teams will use

883
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: this as an example. But you know, somebody's gonna panic

884
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: lateness first, all right. So on the other side, I

885
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: want to get into this because Shador Sanders seems to

886
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: be that lightning rod with cam Ward seemingly set at

887
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 2: number one to the Tennessee Titans, how will the top

888
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: of the draft play out? We're gonna break it down

889
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Speaker 2: for you, along with much more NBA playoff reaction.

890
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,960
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Speaker 2: All right, let's set about this basketball game the better

898
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: coming up, Magic Celtics, Heat Cavaliers. I definitely want to

899
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: get into that series of ej and then of course

900
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: Warriors Rockets, which should be very interest seen series. Once again,

901
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: a lot of people love the Warriors in that series,

902
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: and the question is why is everyone down on the Rockets.

903
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: We'll break that down coming up a little bit later

904
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: on in the show. Also, obviously, we are focused in

905
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: on the NFL Draft, which gets started on Thursday, and

906
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: for a variety of reasons, there hasn't been as much

907
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: buzz about this draft as we've seen in years past.

908
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean last year, of course, we had the quarterbacks

909
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: at the top of the draft, including two Heisman Trophy winners,

910
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: so there was a lot of buzz about that, and

911
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: in recent years it's been that way, but this year's draft.

912
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 5: Has been pretty quiet.

913
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean once we get to draft day that

914
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: all hell won't break loose. But let's talk about Shador Sanders,

915
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: because this is some an individual VJ that you feel

916
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: almost protective of.

917
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: I would dare say.

918
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: That you feel like he's been under the spotlight, being

919
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: the sun of Dion. Sanders obviously had two brilliant years

920
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: at Colorado and now gets ready for the draft, and

921
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: there just seems to be all kinds of mixed messages

922
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: about his future in the National Football League. There's been

923
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: questions about arm strength, There's been questions, I guess, even

924
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: about character and his attitude and everything else. I mean,

925
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: there's a variety of reasons you could knock a player again.

926
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: I remember Randy Moss when he showed up the Heisman

927
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: ceremony wearing sunglasses, and it seemed to suddenly hurt him

928
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: in the draft and he fell fell, fell into the past.

929
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: The middle of the first round, the Minnesota Vikings took him.

930
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: How smart was that?

931
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 5: Well, first team All pros rookie.

932
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: Year, How smart was that?

933
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: And so you know, he completely changed that, you know,

934
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: and he later admitted the reason he wore the sunglasses

935
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: is that he felt so out of place coming out

936
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: of Marshall. He felt, you know, intimidated to be there

937
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: at the Heisman ceremony with the likes of Charles Woodson

938
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: and Peyton Manning.

939
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: He was just a nervous young kid, right Ryan Leaf.

940
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: That was the fourth one that was at that nineteen

941
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: ninety eight heistman ceremony or nineteen ninety seven Heisman ceremony.

942
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: So you know this is these are all little factors

943
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: that you have to weigh when you're evaluating talent. Are

944
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: the right fit? Are they right for your system? And

945
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: everything else? But right now I want to get an

946
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: update from you. We know that cam Ward is going

947
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: to be the first pick in this draft by the

948
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. You got the Browns, you got the Giants,

949
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: they both need quarterbacks, Patriots stoned, and then you go

950
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 2: down the list. Obviously everyone's looking at the Raiders at six,

951
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: They're looking at the Saints at nine. What do you

952
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: expect as far as sho Door Sanders is concerned. This

953
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: is your last say before the draft on Thursday. What

954
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: I expect to happen is what I don't want to happen.

955
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: But what I expect to happen as close as we

956
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 2: get to this thing is he looks like he could fall.

957
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't mean fall into like the twenties or anything

958
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: like that. We talked about standout guys.

959
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 4: Right this first round, who's the franchise changing guy? Like,

960
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: when you get this guy four years from now, your

961
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: team's in a conference championship game because you drafted this

962
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: guy to have what you had? Is it Abdual Carter? Now,

963
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: you would have to be damn near like Aaron Donald

964
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 4: to make that type of impact, to be able to

965
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: control one side of the ball to help get your

966
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 4: team to a conference championship. Right, you gotta have a quarterback,

967
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 4: I have what receive, You gotta run a ball, Gotta

968
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: have a whiz kid head coach that knows how to

969
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 4: do all these different crazy things that other coaches don't

970
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: know how to do. Cool, But if you're gonna go

971
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: get like an Abdual Carter, is he that guy is

972
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter? That guy is Travis Hunter. Guy you draft

973
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: and then all this talk about playing both ways and

974
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: then oh, guess what he gets to play both ways

975
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: because it's like, well, you know, we don't hit as much,

976
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: they don't tackle as much. Players are more protected nowadays.

977
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: It's not as much warranty on your body. We see

978
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: the kid did it? Over a hundred plays a game

979
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: in Colorado last year after failing a little bit his

980
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: first year, but got his conditioning together and was able

981
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: to pull it off. And then when one heisman he

982
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: can do this is it cam Ward? Is cam Ward

983
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: a franchise changing quarterback? You and I and preferred was

984
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: just talking about the line in this draft, right, Are

985
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: any of these lining gonna be that tack? Is there

986
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: an Orlando Pace here? Is there Anthony Munoz here? You

987
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? Is there one of those guys

988
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: here that when the Rams drafted Pace? Yeah? Yeah, you

989
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: got Marshall Fulkin, you got Ozierra Keim and Isaac Bruce

990
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: and tell her, but Orlando Pace holding down that left

991
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: side all those years. Man, We're allowed your line to

992
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: do everything. That allowed the offense to do everything like

993
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: it starts in the trenches.

994
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: Tony Boselli did that with Jackson.

995
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Absolutely. And then you add what a

996
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: Fred Taylor? You bringing an old Mark Brunell, Jimmy Smith,

997
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: Keenan mccardo. Next thing, you know, what do you do?

998
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: You upset the Denver Broncos in the playoffs and get

999
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 4: to the conference championship game. So you have to have

1000
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: that guy. Do you see that guy in this draft?

1001
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: Ashton GenZ probably looks like a franchise changer to me.

1002
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: He's perfect for the Raiders. He's sitting right there for

1003
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders. But does Tom Brady want to get that

1004
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 4: quarterback thing down right now? Right? You know? Does does

1005
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: Tom want to get that quarterback thing? Yeah? You have

1006
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: a running back. But if all you can do is

1007
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: run the football, what else can you do? You can't

1008
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: throw if you have a quarterback, I don't care if

1009
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: you can run the football. So it looks like he

1010
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: could slide. But I'm still holding hope that the Saints

1011
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: somebody leaves up. I think the Giants might be out

1012
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: at three. I can see the Giants trading out. It's

1013
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: interesting you mentioned Giants trading out.

1014
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 5: All right.

1015
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: So one of the guys we watch and we were

1016
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: talking to Chris about that is Daniel jeremih I love him, yeah, absolutely,

1017
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: And so this was this was about a month ago. Okay,

1018
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: this is this is a while ago, but this is

1019
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: where he was sitting at that point. As far as

1020
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: the draft, he had Cam Woord won to the Titans.

1021
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: He had an Abdual Carter going number two to the

1022
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Browns third Giants Shoodoor Sanders. Now he also mentioned, like

1023
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: you said, that they could trade out of that pick.

1024
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: Now he had the Patriots taking Travis Hunter. I mean

1025
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: he'd be perfect because there are a few teams in

1026
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: the NFL with less talent right now than the New

1027
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: England Patriots. That might be a team that can use

1028
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: them on both sides of the football. But if the

1029
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: Giants trade down. See that's again it always comes down

1030
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: to this. It's not necessarily who you select, it's where

1031
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: you select him. You know, you don't want to use

1032
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: up draft capital unnecessarily to move up to get a

1033
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: guy that if you just stood pat they would be

1034
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: sitting there. Jacksonville is not going to take a quarterback.

1035
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: They're probably looking for an edge guy. I agree with

1036
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: you with the Raiders. I just don't know how they

1037
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: could pass on Genty. Genty got my Heisman vote this year.

1038
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: No knock on Travis Hunter. I just thought that Genty was.

1039
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 4: I wanted to predicts. I thought suld been co Well,

1040
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: it's just so close, and.

1041
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: It was a close vote as well.

1042
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: Genty game close in the vote, but he just and

1043
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: again forget the numbers, you know, I'm talking eyeball tests

1044
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: when teams were just loading up, you know what's coming,

1045
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: and so now they got eight in the box and

1046
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: he was running between tackling, you know, and he was

1047
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: running hard. You know, you'd see this guy running big

1048
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: guys on his back, running hard. I love that he's

1049
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: got the breakaway speed, but at the same time he

1050
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: can grind out yards. I have no doubt the genty,

1051
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: if he stays healthy, is going to be an impact

1052
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: running back.

1053
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: Five fifteen man with that type of speed.

1054
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 5: Well, I mean again, if he's got the stars.

1055
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: I would never mention anyone in the same breath as

1056
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders. But there are elements of what he does,

1057
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 2: the vision, the balance, you know again, the sick lace

1058
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: size where he's shorter.

1059
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: He's not small, he's just short. He runs through people.

1060
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Know, those are strong legs on him, just like Barry

1061
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Sanders head back in the day. So that that's going

1062
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: to be the guessing game. And then again you got

1063
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 2: the Saints sitting there at number nine. If Shador Sanders

1064
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: gets to nine, I don't think there's anyway the Saints.

1065
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: Pass on him. They can't. They need a quarterback.

1066
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 5: Well yeah, but they need to go to the Giants

1067
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: at three true.

1068
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 4: But see we talked about this a few weeks ago

1069
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 4: with the Giants, I don't think and the Raiders at

1070
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: six Russ or I don't think Russ and Jamis make

1071
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: that opening day roster. We've seen in the NFL where

1072
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: veterans signed early in the free agent period and they

1073
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 4: don't make it to the They don't make it to

1074
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: the opening day roster. I just you know, you need

1075
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: a quarterback now. If Brian Dable Nosey's on a hot seat,

1076
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: is doing them guy remove where he's like, he's just

1077
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: gonna masking tape and duct tape and some chewing gum

1078
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 4: and a payper clip this thing together at the quarterback position.

1079
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: Because he's just Brian Dable and he's the quarterback whispering.

1080
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: You get two veterans, you get a Russell Wilson in

1081
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: and you get a Jamis. Guys, you don't have to

1082
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 4: teach how to be an NFL. You don't have to

1083
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: teach how to be NFL quarterback. But they may not

1084
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 4: have it no more. But I much rather do that

1085
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: than put my trust in a rookie. And if I

1086
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: don't play well, I mean, if I don't coach well,

1087
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: we do and we play bad, I get fired and

1088
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 4: then somebody else gets this rookie. If you're the Giants,

1089
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: you have to really be thinking. That could be a

1090
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: thought process of how they move this offseason. Signing two

1091
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 4: veteran quarterbacks like that. But neither one of these guys

1092
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: are gonna do anything for you pass twenty twenty five.

1093
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: Neither one of those quarters famous Jamis or Russ. They're

1094
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: not doing a damn thing for you past twenty twenty five,

1095
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: So why not get your quarterback now? I don't like this.

1096
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 4: Wait till we see who comes out in the draft.

1097
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: You don't know what these kids going to be next year.

1098
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: You better get what you know now.

1099
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Well, again, you hired Brian Dable as your coach of

1100
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: the Giants because he was the quarterback whisperer. He took

1101
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: a guy, Josh Allen, who had never completed sixty percent

1102
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: of his passes in any season college or the NFL.

1103
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, he's a sixty nine percent passer.

1104
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: Now he's an NFL MVP. And Brian Dable got all

1105
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: the credit for figuring out and creating the great player

1106
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: that Josh.

1107
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 5: Allen Is today.

1108
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: So if he could do it with him, isn't that

1109
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: the idea of taking a quarterback so you have a

1110
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: guy that you try. I mean, you decided, despite the

1111
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: disaster of the last couple of seasons, to retain Brian

1112
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Dable as your count fired him.

1113
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 4: If you knew you needed a quarterback, you knew the

1114
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: season wasn't going well, You knew you were going to

1115
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 4: have a top pick by like week sixteen, week seventeen.

1116
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: You knew you were going to have a top four pick.

1117
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: You should have fired Brian Dable, hire somebody else, go

1118
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 4: ahead and take a quarterback now and start from there.

1119
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: But I understand the Giants frustration because they've been firing

1120
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: coaches every two years, so they thought. But the only

1121
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: reason I would keep Brian Dable is you still trust

1122
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: that he has some kind of magic with quarterbacks. You

1123
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: draft a quarterback, it makes sense for the Giants to

1124
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: take a quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Is he gonna do with these two guys? Please tell

1126
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: me not many?

1127
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 5: Exactly nothing nothing nothing, it's do nothing.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen you.

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Speaker 5: Gotta you got a the prime He was sold on

1130
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones.

1131
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: The reason Jones got that conference. I understand, but he

1132
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: was sold on him. They won a playoff game on

1133
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: the road against Minnesota, right by Minnesota. All right on

1134
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: the other side, is at the end of an era?

1135
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: Are we finally going to say bye bye to Aaron

1136
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: Rodgers and the National Football League? We got the late as.

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1145
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1146
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,560
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00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,440
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00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,640
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00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,120
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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,680
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1153
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Speaker 5: So we've We've been.

1154
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: Talking about Aaron Rodgers at nauseum ever since the season ended,

1155
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: and we kept saying, well, is he going to make

1156
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: a decision by the draft?

1157
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 5: Like is that gonna happen?

1158
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: And most people fly like, yeah, I mean we will

1159
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: know by draft day what is going to be happening

1160
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers.

1161
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 5: And here we are four days and we have no clue.

1162
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: And his appearance with Pat McAfee clarified we have absolutely

1163
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: no clue that he has no clue, although I'm sure

1164
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: he does. Of what are the intentions of Aaron Rodgers.

1165
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: Here's the way I read it, and want to get

1166
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: your read, obviously, VJ. My read has always been this

1167
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: is that he begged the Vikings.

1168
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: Begged, begged, begged, begged.

1169
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: The Vikings have acknowledged that they had some contact with

1170
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and basically told him right now, we're not interested.

1171
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: But that was the team he deafly wanted to get to,

1172
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: because that's a team that is primed for a Super

1173
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: Bowl run in twenty twenty five. The Steelers are not,

1174
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: the Jets are not, and he doesn't have any other options.

1175
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 5: Nobody else is interested in Aaron Rodgers.

1176
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: I could not believe he wanted on Pat McAfee and

1177
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: drone on about all the you know what the Jets

1178
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: put him through and forced him to take up private jet. Well,

1179
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: actually they didn't force you to take a private jet.

1180
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: You took a private jet to go there and being

1181
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: told in four minutes we have no interest in you.

1182
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: But that being said, it seems painfully obvious that he

1183
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: does not want to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Don't

1184
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: think there are any other options. And my thinking is

1185
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is dragging this out to where eventually we're

1186
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: gonna get to the announcement that he is retiring from

1187
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1188
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: Well, you and I post kind of been on the

1189
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: same page with this. This goes back to him supposedly

1190
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: was gonna sign with the Giants. I said, no chance,

1191
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: no chance. To hell, he signed with the Giants. The

1192
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 4: Giants just saw up close and personal what having Aaron

1193
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: Rodgers is like. The Giants just saw they shared a

1194
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: building with the bum as Jets. So then the Steelers

1195
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: they come out this Vikings thing. Listen, he might have

1196
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: begged them, it doesn't matter. They have their quarterback. You

1197
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: don't move up a year before in the draft to

1198
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 4: say JJ McCarthy and then bringing forty plus year old

1199
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: diva queen narcissist, Aaron Rodgers, you just don't do that. Yeah,

1200
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 4: you're on the verge of probably winning something in Minnesota,

1201
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: but look what you just did with Sam Darnold. So

1202
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure JJ McCarthy can do the same thing,

1203
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: if not a little bit more that you're gonna need,

1204
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 4: namely not choked down the stretch in the season and

1205
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 4: kind of cough it all up. But Aaron Rodgers, you

1206
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 4: and I both, I just we both said this maybe

1207
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 4: three weeks ago, maybe a month ago. I just think

1208
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: he's done. Now when you're going now, now, let me

1209
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: ask you this. You're going Pat McAfee and you blast

1210
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: the Jets. What damn GM in their right mind was

1211
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 4: watching that and said, there's my guy. That's who I

1212
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: want right there. Oh yeah, yeah, give me more, give

1213
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 4: me more, Oh yeah yeah, trash talk them, yeah, tell

1214
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 4: us all about port all out, Eric. That's what I

1215
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: want in my locker room as my quarterback, as my

1216
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 4: franchise guy leading the other fifty two men. I want that, right,

1217
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: Show me the damn GM that solved that. And it's

1218
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: like yep, let's go sign him. It's not happening. I

1219
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: think about this. Maybe Pittsburgh don't want nothing to do

1220
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 4: with him. Well, I agree with you.

1221
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone I don't want that. Here's the

1222
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: thing about the Jets situation. He claims that, you know,

1223
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: so they could have done this on the phone, right

1224
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 2: in other words, you know, look, we have no interest,

1225
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: thanks for no things.

1226
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 5: But they basically wanted to meet with them. Well, maybe

1227
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 5: that was out of respect.

1228
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because you are Aaron Rodgers that we're not

1229
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: going to send you a text message, our email. We

1230
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: are going to actually meet with the fact that you

1231
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: decided to take a private jet, that's on you.

1232
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 5: I mean, he could have flown bo got it ball out.

1233
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: You know, we want you to come here, And I used, well,

1234
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: why didn't you fly him in?

1235
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 5: Well, it didn't have to fly in.

1236
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: They just say we wanted to talk to you face

1237
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: to face and say, look, you know, we appreciate what

1238
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: you've done, but we are going to move on and

1239
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: go in a different direction. I think that pretty much

1240
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: was the Jets intention. I mean, the Jets, look, they're

1241
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: a mess of an organization. That's been proven again they

1242
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: they've had the longest drought without a playoff appearance of

1243
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: any team in North American sports. I mean, it's pretty

1244
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: obvious they don't know really what they're doing. But yeah,

1245
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: I just it does nothing makes out. Tell you what

1246
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: makes sense for Pittsburgh at twenty one, Jackson, don't. I mean, yeah,

1247
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, you took justin Fields. You felt, you know,

1248
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: in the trade situation, it felt like he still wasn't

1249
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: going to be your quarterback in the future. Take a

1250
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: young quarterback. You did this with Ben Roethlisberger back in

1251
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: the day. Turned out pretty good FA And so yeah,

1252
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean you've drafted quarterbacks that actually have had some success.

1253
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: Kenny Pickutt was not that guy.

1254
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: See, that was the one that really killed him, right,

1255
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: University of Pittsburgh guy. He had that inflated numbers during

1256
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: the COVID year where a lot of people really misevaluated

1257
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the quarterback talent in that draft.

1258
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: He was the local guy. They saw a lot of them.

1259
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: They were convinced that he was going to be Dann

1260
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: Marino because he broke Marinos records at the University of Pittsburgh.

1261
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: Obviously he was not. I will say this about Jackson dark.

1262
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: I he thought he was going to be well the

1263
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: GM did. I mean he was.

1264
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 5: He's like, look at the guy broke all the Marinos records.

1265
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: At the University of Pittsburgh. The guy did nothing until

1266
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: that last year. He was like a one year wondering

1267
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: pitt Some of.

1268
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: These gms, I mean, they're just alutall.

1269
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: All over the place in college football. Now you remember

1270
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: a guy by the name of Timmy Chang.

1271
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, rh Hawaii guy. Yeah, I think Joe's record, Yeah.

1272
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 4: He does because he threw four jillion yards. Because June

1273
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: Jones did was like, listen, just throw the ball. We're

1274
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: just gonna drop back into thow the ball. Which I mean,

1275
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: it's so when some guy gets a record or puts

1276
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: up these crazy numbers to say.

1277
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: That thought his guy got the late great Colt Brennan,

1278
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: he led Hawaii to the Sugar Bowl, was a third

1279
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 2: in the Heisman Trophy, voting.

1280
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 4: For one more on missing one. There was Colt Brennan,

1281
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: There's Timmy Timmy Chang, and there was one more just

1282
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: aired out quarterback with all these ridiculous uh uh numbers

1283
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 4: and yards.

1284
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, I pick up through forty two touchdowns.

1285
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: This last year, Like I said, you can flinger. Here's

1286
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: what I'll say about Jackson Dart. I've been looking at

1287
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot at Jackson Dart. Of course, I remember when

1288
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: he started his career at USC. Uh. You know, he

1289
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: went down there with Lane Kiffin and the guy's got

1290
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: a gun. This guy has got velocity on the ball.

1291
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: He can throw the football. Does that mean he's going

1292
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: to be a successful quarterback in the NFL. No, because

1293
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: you've got to be able to process information. You got

1294
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: to be able to throw the ball accurately.

1295
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: Especially one it's a problem.

1296
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to throw the ball.

1297
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: But again, who would have thought Josh Allen would become

1298
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback he is. So you get the right coaching,

1299
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: maybe he can make a quarterback. But yeah, as far

1300
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: as the Steelers are concerned, I honestly, at this point,

1301
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers are interested. I don't think

1302
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: anybody is. I think Aaron Rodgers is just trying to perpetuate,

1303
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: like he's sitting there and the decision will be his

1304
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: and ultimately, like again, if you're thinking about retirement, you're

1305
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: already retired, right.

1306
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I always say that another team I want to

1307
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: throw out there is speaking of the draft that I

1308
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 4: think could trade out of like that top ten or

1309
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: like like the top six would be Jacksonville. You think, well, here,

1310
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 4: here's the deal. You have to pay that guy because

1311
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: you made the point of you know, not giving up

1312
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: draft capital, right, But if you trade back and you

1313
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: see a guy you like, because we've talked about the

1314
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 4: draft board, right, and if you don't have to take

1315
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: them at six or seven or wherever wherever they're their

1316
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: positioned at, then why take them there?

1317
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: Why So you're saying, if Shador Sanders is still sitting

1318
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: there at six and you're the Saints, well, actually that's

1319
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: six seven seven.

1320
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 4: Starts with the Giants for me at three, then Jacksonville

1321
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: and then the Saints. I think those are three teams.

1322
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: The Saints Ione I think want to get up, but

1323
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: I think Jacksonville and the Giants. The Giants. The two

1324
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 4: quarterbacks signings just got me really thinking, Okay, they might

1325
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: not be taking Shador, because then what sense would that

1326
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: make Signing two veterans in the y'all season and you

1327
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: always got you also still got Chicken Cutlass Davito there,

1328
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: you still got the Vito there, you still got three

1329
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 4: quarterbacks there so now you're gonna still drafty roster.

1330
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 5: Maybe the ideas you don't want to play shardor Sanders

1331
01:00:59,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: as a rookie.

1332
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: We have seen so many careers the railed by being

1333
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: thrown into a starting role to.

1334
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 4: Him and DeVito, to the backups, and you just took

1335
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 4: them a.

1336
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 5: Homes He sat the whole year behind Alex Smith.

1337
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 4: I got that. But then, okay, that's a perfect example.

1338
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 4: But then why signed two Vets? Why not just sign

1339
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: one of those vets? You got de veto?

1340
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 5: Well, you want to quarterback competition?

1341
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: Look at no one's making the Giants to finish anywhere

1342
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: but dead last in the NFC East unless the Cowboys.

1343
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 4: I was about to say, you got Cowboys. Cowboys is

1344
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: a is a coin toss this coming year. Man, we

1345
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: got to see what they do in the draft, and

1346
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 4: then you know those June first cuts, when those Vets

1347
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 4: get let go, if they grab somebody. At that point,

1348
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: there's still a couple of good receivers still available. Mine

1349
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: Cooper am I not mistaken? Isn't He's still a free

1350
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: agent right now. There's a receiver there that you can have.

1351
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 4: There's players you can have. But I think Jacksonville might

1352
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: be another team that says, okay, like Jacksonville could use

1353
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 4: a corner, right Will Johnson out of Michigan's right there?

1354
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 4: But do you want to take them that high? Do

1355
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 4: you want to kind of drop back and let somebody

1356
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: go up and go get a guy they really want,

1357
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 4: like assid Gen. Let's say the Raiders blowback. Let's say

1358
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: a Raiders blow that, say, you know what, we need

1359
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 4: offensive line help, because they do. We need offensive line

1360
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: help they do. Let's let's grab let's grab one of

1361
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: these tackles. Hell, let's say let's tell Kevin Calvin Banks Junior.

1362
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 5: The Raiders will take either Genty or Shad or Sanders.

1363
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 4: Then they gotta takes Shador. You gotta get the quarterback first.

1364
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: Only is the quarterback if you believe the quarterback. But

1365
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 4: I believe he is that quarterback. Would have a hard

1366
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 4: time believing with the quarterback issue to rate.

1367
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 2: If you're high on Jaln Milroe and take him in

1368
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: the second round, how id he?

1369
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 4: How about you? Feels more like third round to me?

1370
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 5: Well, okay, but let's say you get Genty and you

1371
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 5: get Milroe.

1372
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: I just must rather get all right, So who do

1373
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: you think is better? Milroe or know what I.

1374
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 5: Mean, you're getting genty and then later Milroe.

1375
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 4: Not the question though, what's who's the better quarterback? Who's

1376
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: the better quarterback prospect for the NFL? Jalen Milroe or

1377
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 4: should door Sanders? Okay, so then, but.

1378
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not giving up on Jalen mill Row.

1379
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why a lot of people looked at

1380
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts as the same type of quarterback.

1381
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 5: Like it's like, oh, yeah, he was benched.

1382
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 9: I know, I mean he was.

1383
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 5: He sat a year and then Oklahoma created an offense.

1384
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: I was always a Hurts fan based on how he

1385
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: carried himself sitting that full year out at Alabama, sitting

1386
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: behind Tua. He didn't he didn't complain, he didn't do anything.

1387
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: He sat there as a backup. Transferred Oklahoma was running

1388
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: up for the Heisman. That impressed me about his character.

1389
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll have much really fast.

1390
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 4: What if I told you the reason why Saban pulled

1391
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 4: that move is so that Tua wouldn't transfer. What if

1392
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 4: I told you that, well, because it was kind of

1393
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: it was kind of strategic the way it all went down,

1394
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: Because didn't Jalen Hurts get back in towards the end

1395
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: of the season, when Tula got hurt, you still had

1396
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: Jalen hurt there. We know Hurts wasn't going to transfer,

1397
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 4: and then he finally did, and then goes Oklahoma and

1398
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 4: puts them in the cos Footballlay Off and the finals

1399
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 4: for Heisman again. So you know, it just felt like

1400
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: to it at least. So let's play tour.

1401
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: All I know about Jalen Milroe is that he threw

1402
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: one of the most legendary fourth down passes in the

1403
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: history of the game.

1404
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: I mean it just was.

1405
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean on fourth twenty seven, like fourth of gold,

1406
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: the twenty seven from Auburn unmor believable throw. Milroe could

1407
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: be a Jalen Hurts type, a little.

1408
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 4: Bit flying the raidar over over though getting genty I'll

1409
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: take Shador over getting gent and Milroe because Chador is

1410
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: a guaranteed.

1411
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 5: I would not.

1412
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: I would not if I could get genty and Milroe

1413
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: versus just getting Chador, No, I would do that. All right,

1414
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: we'll get more into this, but first let's find out

1415
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: what is trending right now.

1416
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 5: Is that game finally over?

1417
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 8: No, it was over in the first quarter. Yes, you

1418
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 8: could have turned it off and you would have known

1419
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 8: the answer. It's quite impressive what the Thunder have done.

1420
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 8: I think they're talking ish to a lot of people,

1421
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 8: including me, because maybe I haven't taken them seriously, and

1422
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 8: now here they are proving that they need to be

1423
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 8: taken seriously. A one thirty one to eighty win over

1424
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 8: the Grizzlies score game on one thirty one to eighty.

1425
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 7: If you're wondering if that is.

1426
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 8: The highest margin of victory, according to ESPN, it is not.

1427
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 7: The highest margin of.

1428
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 8: Victory in an NBA playoff game is fifty eight by

1429
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 8: Denver over New Orleans in two thousand and nine.

1430
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 5: There it is so.

1431
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 8: And also, if we want to go way back, Lakers

1432
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 8: of Atlanta in nineteen fifty six in nineteen fifty six,

1433
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 8: also so fifty one points. Thunder just absolutely murdered the

1434
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 8: Grizzlies from start to finish. All five of okc's starters

1435
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 8: ended in double digits, and Shake Gildes Alexander was mid

1436
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 8: at best four of thirteen fifteen points, five assists.

1437
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 7: It did not matter. Thunder just rolled past the Grizzlies.

1438
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 8: Jared Jackson Junior from Memphis two of thirteen for four

1439
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 8: points Jahn Moran six of seventeen for seventeen points.

1440
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 7: So yeah, Game one, All Thunder still to come. A

1441
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 7: lot of basketball.

1442
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 8: Game one Magic Celtics is tipping off any minute now,

1443
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 8: so we'll see how this one ends up. We also

1444
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 8: have hockey playoffs starting today. The Hurricanes have scored first

1445
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 8: against the Devils. It's one zero halfway through the first period.

1446
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 8: Plenty of baseball going on. The White Sox still edging

1447
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 8: the Red Sox five to four bottom of the seventh inning.

1448
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 8: The reds I mentioned earlier, had a seven run inning

1449
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 8: in the third, led by an Elie Dela.

1450
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 7: Cruz home run.

1451
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 8: Well, they've kept going since then, so they're up on

1452
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 8: the Orioles twelve to one. Top of the sixth inning.

1453
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 8: The Guardians have extended their lead over the Pirates for one.

1454
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 8: Bottom of the seventh, Marlin's on the scoreboard, but the

1455
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 8: Philly is holding on for to bottom of the seventh.

1456
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 8: In Philadelphia, the Braves have a six to two lead

1457
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 8: over the Twins, also bottom of the seventh. It's the

1458
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 8: sixth inning between the Mariners and the Blue Jays. Seattle

1459
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 8: up six three. Royals and Tigers tied it to a

1460
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 8: piece bottom of the seventh, Yankees added another run, things

1461
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 8: to a solo shot from Cody Bellinger. So blanking the

1462
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 8: Rays three zero bottom of the seventh, Mets up on

1463
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 8: the Cardinals three to one, top of the seventh, while

1464
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 8: the Brewers are blanking the A six zero bottom of

1465
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 8: the fourth, Nationals blanking the Rockies. I mean everyone blanks

1466
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 8: the Rockies three zero, bottom of the second and show

1467
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 8: Heo Tani back in the lineup for the Dodgers after

1468
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 8: a short paternity leave.

1469
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 7: Congratulations to the new father.

1470
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 8: But Dodgers and Rangers Mejay's Rangers scoreless bottom of the

1471
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 8: fourth inning, so plenty of game less.

1472
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, good pitch and do it going on right now?

1473
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Absolutely so yes.

1474
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: So show Hey Mamiko is so wife? Yeah, welcome a

1475
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: little girl. Oh girl, we ran that story all night

1476
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: on TV. I'm shows with the little feet.

1477
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 7: And then the little picture of the dog on the side.

1478
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1479
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 8: I literally have pictures of his dog on my phone

1480
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 8: because someone gave this to me at work, stickers of

1481
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 8: show Hay's dog, and I was like, I don't know

1482
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 8: what to do with this, and I didn't want it

1483
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 8: to like rip or bend, so I put it in

1484
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 8: my phone to keep it, like, you know, straight, and

1485
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 8: I haven't taken it off, and now it's just pictures

1486
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 8: of show Hay's dog on my phone.

1487
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 4: Bigger LA star right now. As far as Luca our

1488
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 4: show hey, you know, I think that's a.

1489
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 7: Really interesting question VJ.

1490
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 8: Because they're both international stars, so.

1491
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 4: That's actually taking over their friends, both.

1492
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 7: Taken over in very different ways. That's a good one.

1493
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say show hey, though, really I'm gonna say

1494
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 8: show hey. But great, great question.

1495
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 5: I will say this. This was this was funny last night.

1496
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: So I'm down at the TV station in La Here

1497
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 2: and I walked into the newsroom and there were two

1498
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: different news writers wearing doncic jersey.

1499
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I was about.

1500
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 5: Seventy seven jersey is red.

1501
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 4: Said the number one selling jersey. It is right jersey

1502
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 4: and being there covering it up close and personal. I

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 4: did a postgame for Network one night. I just said

1504
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: this this it feels organic like when Lebron got here.

1505
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: It felt like where Lebron always goes. It's kind of

1506
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 4: all scripted love right, scripted excitement, the luke of filling

1507
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 4: the the energy in that building hasn't been like that

1508
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 4: since Cod he was there. It's it's organic. I agree, organic,

1509
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: it's not made up. It's like Luca, let me tell

1510
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 4: you something, Luca don't really care much about it.

1511
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 6: Man.

1512
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: The press conference is he literally told us one night. Yeah,

1513
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 4: I'd like to give you a short answer. He don't

1514
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 4: want to sit there. He'll he'll give you, He'll let

1515
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 4: twenty questions come. But every question you get about a

1516
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 4: ten second answer.

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Speaker 3: Man.

1518
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 4: It's not He's not falling fra aud of stuff.

1519
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: He just they got him early enough in his career,

1520
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, very much like Shock or they did with

1521
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: Kareem where they got him early, like Hoby.

1522
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Speaker 5: You know they well, I mean, I'm not talking about lifers.

1523
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking about guys they made trains for who had

1524
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: a history with a you know, Koreem have been with

1525
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: the Bucks for about six seven years. You know, Shock

1526
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: obviously been with the Magic. But they played long enough

1527
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: where you're like, all right, he's a Laker. You would

1528
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: never do Lebron. No, Lebron was never going to be

1529
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: a Laker. He was a Laker on loan. A high

1530
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: big difference as far as the fans. By the way,

1531
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Speaker 2: once again, this is Hartman and Husky. We are live

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Speaker 2: round of the draft. Insider Jay Glazer, former Jets general

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Speaker 2: manager Joe Douglas, thanks so much Aaron Rodgers for his

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Speaker 2: with predictions and reactions. That's Thursday a pm Eastern throughout

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1550
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Speaker 2: Shave Club. Yeah, the Raiders. You know, we're just talking

1553
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: about again. Two choices, all right, got the sixth pick

1554
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: in the draft, and so Vja says, if Chaudor Sanders

1555
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: falls to six, take Shador Sanders. You have to don't

1556
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: look back. I say, I would still take Ashton Genty

1557
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 2: with a sixth pick in the draft. And then if

1558
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: you get him second or even possibly third round, Jaylen Milroe,

1559
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: I two for one.

1560
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: I remember how about this.

1561
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 4: Thou oh quarterback that's the problem.

1562
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see.

1563
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, the San Diego Chargers had the

1564
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: first pick in the draft. They made a trade and

1565
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: Atlanta got the first pick and they took Michael Vick.

1566
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: The Chargers dropped to five and they take Ladanian Tomlinson.

1567
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: And then they had the first pick in the second

1568
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: round and they drafted Drew Brees. Drew Brees and Ladanian

1569
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: Tomlinson for Mike vic. Yeah, I mean two first ballot

1570
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: Hall of famers. And I'm and I'm not, I'm a

1571
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: big Michael Vick fan. But you add up Drew Brees

1572
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: and Ladanian Tomlinson, That's that's a pretty good swap.

1573
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. But then Drew Brees ends there.

1574
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, Drew Brees was a five. I

1575
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: remember meeting Drew Brees right after the Chargers drafted him.

1576
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking this guy, I am thinking, okay, no chance.

1577
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. But also so just real quick on the old

1578
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 4: Drew Brees. They yeah, he was there in San Diego.

1579
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 4: They get him and Thomlinson, but they shipped them out

1580
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 4: of there because they drafted Philip Rivers, then Eli man

1581
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 4: and then of course the trade for Philip Rivers. So

1582
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 4: by the way, they weren't sold on him.

1583
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: But how about this, and so they made that they

1584
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: drafted they had the number one pick, remember in the

1585
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: four draft, and they and Eli Manning made Claire I

1586
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: don't want any part of San Diego. So they they

1587
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: draft him anyway, and then they make the trade with

1588
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: the Giants. Uh, and they end up with Philip Rivers.

1589
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: But think about this, if they kept Drew they could

1590
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 2: have used their pick on Larry Fitzgerald. Imagine if you

1591
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:11,520
Speaker 2: had had Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio Gates, and Ladanian

1592
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: Tomlinson essentially all starting their careers together.

1593
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 5: You could have had that forceome together for I don't

1594
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 5: know ten years.

1595
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 4: Nor would have still found a way to screw it.

1596
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 5: Of well, remember it was Marty, Marty's last year. They

1597
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 5: were fourteen and they lost a hometown. That freaking play Mary.

1598
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: But they could have and they they gave up on

1599
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: Breeze and if they kept him, they could have drafted

1600
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald and had him with Gates and Ladamian Thomas.

1601
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: Real quickly, back to the Raiders quarterback room. Okay, right now,

1602
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 4: you you you can't Jalen Milroe, couldn't even I wouldn't

1603
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 4: even start Jalen Milroe for with them right now? All right?

1604
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 4: They they have Gino, so I wouldn't even start.

1605
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 5: Well, that's the whole point.

1606
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: You don't need him right now, and I obviously wouldn't

1607
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: use a first round pick. But how long is Gino

1608
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: going to be around?

1609
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 4: Exactly? That's why he takes your door. That's why he

1610
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 4: takes your door. If you're gonna take Okay, so you

1611
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 4: take Jill and Mayroll, fine, that's gonna be your death.

1612
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 4: You need a running back, that's your contingency. You're gonna

1613
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 4: pass on Genty, say you can run. You know that

1614
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 4: Genty is a step above any other running back in

1615
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 4: this direct that's not even close. Right, it's not even close.

1616
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 4: He could be a generational running back. Now, okay, let

1617
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: me ask you this. Hell, if you the Giants, why

1618
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 4: not take him in three? You got two quarterbacks? Why

1619
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 4: not take him at three?

1620
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: I screw if you're If you're asking me if I

1621
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: were the Giants to take genty, my answer'll be yes,

1622
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: take him.

1623
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 4: Last time you took a quarterback this how what did

1624
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: he turn off to be?

1625
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 9: Oh?

1626
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just ran for two thousand yards for another

1627
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: team and won the Super Bowl.

1628
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 2: So all right, I want to get into history being

1629
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: made in the NBA. We have a ten c that

1630
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: made the playoffs in the Miami Heat who made history

1631
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: two years ago? Do it again against the Cavaliers. We're

1632
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Speaker 2: gonna break down that series that get started today. This

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Speaker 2: to be Johnny Us, our MLB analyst. We may even

1641
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: get an early preview of the upcoming NHL playoffs.

1642
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 5: He's a hockey guy, hardcore hockey guy.

1643
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 4: Hockey too as well.

1644
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 5: I know you do and I do too.

1645
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: So we're getting ready for the Stanley Cup playoffs as well.

1646
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: So JP Morosi, he'll join us here in about twenty minutes.

1647
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 2: We've been talking about these playoff games. The first one

1648
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: today was an absolute laugher as we saw Oklahoma City

1649
01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 2: remind everybody we won sixty eight games this year. Hell

1650
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: take it seriously, as the annihilated the Grizzlies by fifty one.

1651
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 2: Right now, the Celtics and the Magic twenty one sixteen

1652
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 2: Celtics should also.

1653
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 5: Win this series. It should be a sweep. I mean,

1654
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 5: come on, now, we're.

1655
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: Talking about a five hundred Orlando Magic team against the Celtics,

1656
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: winners of sixty one games. I will say this just

1657
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: picking up where we left off before the top of

1658
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: the hour. As far as the Celtics are concerned. If

1659
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm the NBA right now, I want the Celtics to win.

1660
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,839
Speaker 2: I've always felt in team sports and in individual sports,

1661
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: dominance pays off because it gives you that lightning rod.

1662
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 5: The Chiefs have been this.

1663
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,799
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Chiefs were like this complete,

1664
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 2: very similar to the New England Patriots before Tom Brady

1665
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: and Belichick. The Patriots were just a team, nothing, no history, nothing,

1666
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: same thing with the Chiefs.

1667
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 5: I know they won a super Bowl back in.

1668
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: The day because they did it to the Super Bowl

1669
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: with Drew Bileslo and Parcels.

1670
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 5: But they lost.

1671
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: You know, they had won anything. Chiefs had won Super

1672
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: Bowl four. Nobody remembers that. But all change and it

1673
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: was sort of new. You know Andy Reid, who doesn't

1674
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: like Andy Reid? After years of you know, failing to

1675
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl with the Eagles, he finally gets

1676
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: over the hump. And then all of a sudden it

1677
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: switches and the Chiefs suddenly go from a warm and

1678
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: fuzzy to hated. We talked about the Golden State Warriors.

1679
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: You know, when they broke in with the Splash Brothers,

1680
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: it was fresh, it was new.

1681
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 5: Who couldn't like Steph Curry there?

1682
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Kevin Durant showed up,

1683
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the Warriors went from loved

1684
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: to hate it, hate it, And I think like the

1685
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 2: Celtics that just said, there's nothing to really hate about

1686
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: the Celtics team. They got quality individuals on that team.

1687
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: They built from within. They did it the right way.

1688
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: That's the way the Celtics built the team they have

1689
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: right now.

1690
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 5: But give it time.

1691
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 2: I mean the Celtics rattle off two or three championships. Yeah,

1692
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: you want to knock them off. Different champion every year

1693
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 2: in the NBA does not work. This is what happened

1694
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: years ago before all of a sudden. We had Lakers

1695
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: Celtics battling in the eighties, Member six early on, so

1696
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 2: back in the late seventies, had the SuperSonics one year,

1697
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: he had the Bullets.

1698
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 5: One year, it was sort of the Blazers with Bill Walton.

1699
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 5: One year. It was sort of a nondescript era. And

1700
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 5: that's that's not good. You want dominant teams, dominant players.

1701
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 2: Isn't it great when you have a dominant Tiger Woods,

1702
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,919
Speaker 2: or you know, on tennis with a Federal or Djokovic,

1703
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: a guy to talk about or target in on.

1704
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 5: I think it's always good for any sport.

1705
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 4: We always say we want that, and when we get it,

1706
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: we complain We just talked about four straight finals of

1707
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 4: the Warriors and the Cavs, right, I mean, we said

1708
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 4: we want it, but when we get it, we complain

1709
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 4: about it and back even to swing this back through

1710
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 4: the tournament. Told we had that one time with the

1711
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: expansion and the little guy and the little team, and

1712
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 4: I've told you I was like, no, I don't care

1713
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 4: about them, because at the end of the day, give

1714
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: me the brand. We know the brand who wanted this

1715
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 4: year in Florida, one of the best teams all year long,

1716
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 4: Southwest whatever, whatever state's got no shots even in the

1717
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: NBA playoffs in some of these other years, in these

1718
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 4: playoffs some of these other teams. You know, it looks

1719
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 4: good on paper, man, but when you put the two

1720
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: teams on the court, Steve, like you know you should

1721
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 4: That's why they played seven games. Serious, you should be

1722
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 4: able to handle a team that you were just flat

1723
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 4: out better than like you you should be able, you

1724
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 4: should be able to do that. This this whole thing

1725
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 4: of you know, a different champion winning every year.

1726
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 9: But don't you.

1727
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: Well we do.

1728
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 9: That.

1729
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 4: We killed that. Listen, Celtics Lakers ain't even what it

1730
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 4: does no more. Man, It's just not we can try

1731
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: to dress it up and we can say it. You

1732
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 4: can say Lakers. It's not even let me ask you

1733
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 4: this when has Lebron even made it a point to

1734
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 4: this is not just another game, This is the Celtic's Well,

1735
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 4: I always knew what this was. Magic always shocked. They

1736
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 4: always when you put the purple and gold on. The

1737
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 4: one thing you better hate is that right there, that's

1738
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: on the screen in front of us, the green and white,

1739
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: the one thing, like, you gotta beat them. Kolby even

1740
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 4: said to itself, you gotta kind of win a championship

1741
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 4: against them to kind of solidify yourself as a as

1742
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 4: a as a Laker.

1743
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: The greatest thing that happened to the NBA was when

1744
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 2: the Celtics beat the Lakers in eighty four. So the

1745
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: member magic comes in. They won championship in nineteen eighty

1746
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: beat the Sixers. They won another championship against the Sixers,

1747
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: and eighty two they got swept by the Sixers eighty three.

1748
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: In the interim, the Celtics did win a title against

1749
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets when they had mos them along. Then

1750
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 2: came nineteen eighty four and the Lakers look like the

1751
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 2: better team. And then somehow, some way, Celtics played dirty

1752
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: ball and the Lakers fell for it, and they got

1753
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: out of their game, and the Celtics walk away with

1754
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: a championship.

1755
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 5: That was such a dynamic.

1756
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 2: And then of course you had the rematch a year

1757
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: later where the Lakers not only got revenge, but they

1758
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: won it in the Garden Magics on Magics. And that was,

1759
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: by the way, Jordan's rookie year with the Bulls. So

1760
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean, this was the explosion. I was in the

1761
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: midst of all this where the NBA, and I'd always

1762
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: been an NBA fan, but it was really an outlier sport.

1763
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 5: It really wasn't.

1764
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't Major League Baseball, which was still king in

1765
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 2: those days. The NFL obviously was gaining a lot of

1766
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: traction college football, but that's what really put the NBA

1767
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: on everybody's radar. And that comes down to rivalries and

1768
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 2: then you look forward to, like you say, what's important

1769
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: about getting teams back into the playoffs every year is

1770
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 2: the fact that it's not the hardcore basketball fan, it's

1771
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 2: the casual basketball fan, the casual sports fan that suddenly,

1772
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 2: you know, with the Warriors and the final.

1773
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 5: Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry.

1774
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 2: This is how Steph Curry suddenly went from just a

1775
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: guy that you know, greatest shooter of all time to

1776
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: like an icon, a true icon.

1777
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 5: Same thing to Lebron James.

1778
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 4: Casual fans don't want to see teams win championships. Casual

1779
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 4: fans want to see certain players right win championships. So

1780
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 4: let's see this.

1781
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 5: I saw the NBA rebranded themselves with Michael Jordan.

1782
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's go back today. Let's start in the eighties.

1783
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 4: In the eighties, right, who was that? Who was that

1784
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 4: babyface quarterback that people maybe he didn't like his team,

1785
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 4: but you're rooted for him. Joe Montana, Right, Joe Montana.

1786
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 4: You kind of just wanted Joe Montana. Didn't matter about

1787
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 4: Roger Craig being the first thousand, thousand yard thousand back,

1788
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 4: And wasn't about Jerry Ronning, about Jerry Rice, what he be,

1789
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 4: Tom rathm Brent Jones, any of those guys.

1790
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 5: Good about Dwight Clark. Dwy Clark back in the.

1791
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 4: Day, exactly, And that's the only thing they ever showed

1792
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 4: from that man's career. And he had a career, but

1793
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: that's the only thing that they show but it was

1794
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 4: about Montana. Okay. So then we move into the late

1795
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 4: eighties and early ninties, and then you get you get

1796
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 4: you get a Brett Farr. You get a kid like

1797
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: Brett Farr, and there weren't no real Packer fans, but

1798
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: people were Brett far. They wanted to see Brett. He

1799
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 4: was yeah, take yeah, they wanted to see. And then

1800
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: and John Madden loved him because John Madden, that's a

1801
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 4: joyan Mannicol. He's just he's just running around out there,

1802
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 4: playing like a kid. He's just having fun out there.

1803
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: Gun slinger, He's a gun sling.

1804
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 5: Can I stopped right there because you took off on

1805
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 5: a tangent. I really love on this one.

1806
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 4: VJA.

1807
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: You mentioned John Madden. I've said this in all the

1808
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: years that I have followed sports, there are only three

1809
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: media people that I really feel moved the needle, like

1810
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 2: they were the reason you were watching as opposed to

1811
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: the game. The first one was Howard Cosella, Money and

1812
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: high football. So sella money night football. It didn't matter

1813
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: the game. You just wanted to hear, whether you loved

1814
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: him or hate him, you want to hear what he

1815
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: had to saying. John Madden was absolutely that in the NFL.

1816
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 4: And right, hell, don't tell me that. I want to

1817
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 4: try to guess if you can just give me a

1818
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 4: sport what it's basketball, mar Albert. No, no, no, no,

1819
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about play by play. Oh I'm talking

1820
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 4: about chocolate color guys. Okay color.

1821
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 5: So I'm talking about people that you want to hear

1822
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 5: what they have to really want to hear. Barkley is

1823
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 5: that guy. And here's the thing you just talked about.

1824
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 2: John Madden was such a positive for the NFL, right,

1825
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean he he had everything. He had relatability, had credibility.

1826
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: He was a guy that also was a huge champion

1827
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: for the NFL. He could take obscure players and make

1828
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: them stars overnight. Nate Newton always talked about this when

1829
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: he made the All Madden Team, and he was he

1830
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: was a guard for the Cowboys, just you know, some

1831
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: guy in the middle. No one ever even heard of

1832
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: the guy, and all of a sudden, Madden puts him

1833
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: on his All Madden team.

1834
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 5: Everyone knows Nate noon he goes. He changed my entire life.

1835
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: And now this has been the criticism of the NBA

1836
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 2: that Charles has in some ways almost turned on the NBA,

1837
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: there's been you know, instead of champion, the obvious talent

1838
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 2: we see. I'm watching I'm watching that game yesterday between

1839
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: the Lakers and the Tea Wolves, and there were some

1840
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: there were some sloppy basketball, but there was also stretches

1841
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: where guys are just knocking down shots. Or I'm watching

1842
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 2: this Clippers, you know, Nuggets series, and it's like, there's

1843
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: some really good basketball, some really incredible players in this league,

1844
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: and a guy like Barkley has so much control of

1845
01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: the narrative.

1846
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 5: I mean, is it two negative? I mean you could

1847
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 5: say it's honest.

1848
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he turned his back on the NBA.

1849
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 4: I think he's just telling the truth about the product

1850
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: flow of a league that he's been part of. When

1851
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 4: you think about it, Barkin has been part of the

1852
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 4: NBA for about forty years, right, forty years over forty years.

1853
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 4: Right came in to the league in eighty four. I

1854
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 4: want to say, was he's drafted in eighty four?

1855
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: Can I give you a quick side note? So, my

1856
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: longtime partner back in the day was a guy named

1857
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Philly Billy Warndell. Before he became a co host with me,

1858
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: he was a TV Philadelphia sports producer back in the

1859
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: seventies and eighties, and when Barkley was drafted by the Sixers,

1860
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,839
Speaker 2: they had Doctor J who's one of the nicest, gentlemanly

1861
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 2: people you'll ever meet in any lifetime. And then you

1862
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: had Moses Malone, who was not exactly the most articulate

1863
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 2: person in the league. So the Sixer reporters, it's Philadelphia, right,

1864
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: this is a hard court. We could either talk to

1865
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 2: mister nice guy all day long, Doctor J, or we're

1866
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: gonna get a guy that doesn't talk. And Mosa Malosa

1867
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: had this rookie and they at first he wasn't that guy,

1868
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: but they like encouraged him. They're like, you know, give

1869
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: us something in here, and they he said, you wouldn't

1870
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 2: have believed where he started. But he claims the Philadelphia

1871
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,879
Speaker 2: media really created the man we see today in Charles.

1872
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 4: Bark Yeah, no, Charles, I mean Charles is Charles bark

1873
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 4: I tell people all the time. People also forget how

1874
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 4: great of a player, oh, Charles Barkley was. But when

1875
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 4: you when you talk about guys moving the needle, I

1876
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 4: don't I don't mind those three, but you're talking about color.

1877
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 4: That's why I throw Marv Albert out there. But you're talking, uh,

1878
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 4: you're talking color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that. That's pretty

1879
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: that's pretty dead on. I don't I don't think I'm

1880
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: trying to go through color guys in my head real fast.

1881
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 4: There's a couple of baseball guys. But I think I'm

1882
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 4: a late bloomer with that. I mean, Harrold Reynolds, Oh

1883
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 4: mass Smolts.

1884
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about guys that you were the game most games,

1885
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 2: ninety nine point of the games you're watching because of

1886
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: the matchup of the game you're not watching. About the announcers,

1887
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: I mean, the announcers usually can only make it worse,

1888
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: but you know they're.

1889
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 4: An announcers guy, I am. I'm weirdly like that. There

1890
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: are some games like I love the Fowler and her

1891
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 4: Street on Sorry Night college football for the twenty years

1892
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: they I agree with you, I love.

1893
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: That, But then you watch again and again when when

1894
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: you're watching herb Street with al Michaels.

1895
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,240
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1896
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 4: no no.

1897
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 6: No, I mean.

1898
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 4: Even even even Michael's on Thursday Night. Yeah, feels weird.

1899
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's I mean, I could get all start on

1900
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,479
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1901
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Speaker 2: Today's show posted right after we get off the air.

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Speaker 2: Well every Sunday, it's a treat to bring on a

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Speaker 2: man that has no peers. He is our MLB insider.

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Speaker 2: He's also our hockey insider. We're going to get the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoffs underway shortly. The Great John Palmer Rose

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Speaker 2: c JP is joining us right now. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: we are going to be talking some hockey with you

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Speaker 2: JP in the upcoming week, so brace yourself for those conversations.

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Speaker 2: But last night I was making light of the Kings

1939
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Speaker 2: taking on the Oilers for the fourth consecutive year in

1940
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, only the second time in NHL history, the

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Speaker 2: two teams have faced each other four consecutive years in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of stuff we'll get into down the road.

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Speaker 2: But I want to throw a name out at you

1945
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Speaker 2: to start off today's show talking about Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 2: and his name is Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge right now

1947
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Speaker 2: is hitting three ninety seven. He has a five ZHO

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Speaker 2: five on base percentage. He has an ops of twelve

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Speaker 2: thirty six. He has seven home runs, He has twenty

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Speaker 2: five runs batted in in twenty one games. We have

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Speaker 2: seen over the last couple of years that he has

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Speaker 2: fulfilled the promise that we saw with that miraculous rookie

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Speaker 2: season I had way back in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: He's thirty two years old, not getting any younger.

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Speaker 2: But when it's all said and done, what do you

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Speaker 2: predict This's going to be the legacy of Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 2: one of the.

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Speaker 6: Greatest Yankees ever. And that is certainly not a stretch

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Speaker 6: to say. You look at first of all, he's got

1960
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Speaker 6: the American League single season home run record, so he

1961
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Speaker 6: passes Maris and so he stands alone one of the

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Speaker 6: most hallowed records in the history of Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 6: So that's number one. The other thing, though, that I

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Speaker 6: would point out, is that as great as that season

1965
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Speaker 6: was in twenty twenty two, you look at what he

1966
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Speaker 6: did last year, and actually his numbers last year were better.

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Speaker 6: He had a better OPS, better slugging percentage, better batting

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Speaker 6: average last year than he did in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 6: He came within four home runs of equaling what he

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Speaker 6: had done back in twenty twenty two. And when you

1971
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Speaker 6: reflect on that, if this were thirty years ago, when

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Speaker 6: you think back on the way that we even looked

1973
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Speaker 6: at Griffy's chase potentially for sixty in the strike short

1974
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Speaker 6: in the year in ninety four, we were all over

1975
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Speaker 6: that as a national media group. That was a massive story.

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Speaker 6: And he got fifty eight last year and it didn't

1977
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Speaker 6: even create as much of a story as as should have.

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Speaker 6: And he's playing for the New York Yankees as their captain.

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Speaker 6: He's the captain of USA Baseball in the next World

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Speaker 6: Baseball Classic. So I think there is this instinct Steven VJ.

1981
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Speaker 6: To look back at players who were playing back when

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Speaker 6: the TV broadcasts either didn't exist or existed only in

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Speaker 6: black and white, and you're talking about Ruth and Garrig

1984
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Speaker 6: and Manselin DiMaggio. What I'm here to tell you is

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Speaker 6: that Aaron Judges putting together seasons that those guys never

1986
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Speaker 6: ever did. And that right there should tell you all

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Speaker 6: you need to know about someone who I think quite

1988
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Speaker 6: candidly will and I hesitate to use the word easy,

1989
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Speaker 6: but the pace is easy for him, that they's easily

1990
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Speaker 6: gonna get beyond five hundred homers, and certainly he's got

1991
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Speaker 6: a shot to get this six hundred before all said done.

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Speaker 4: JP VJ. Verner Husky here, Happy Easter to you and

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Speaker 4: your lovely family. If you got separated, man, and bless

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Speaker 4: us to everybody back where you are. Let's jump back here,

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Speaker 4: no problem, brother, Let's jump out here to the NL

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Speaker 4: West where we are out here, lovely Los Angeles. This

1997
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Speaker 4: thing is kind of tight. I know it's still earlier,

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Speaker 4: but d Bags Giants, the Dodgers are just half a game.

1999
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Speaker 4: The Padres, who I've heard Dodger fans say that they felt,

2000
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Speaker 4: you know, could have beaten the Dodgers last year, had

2001
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Speaker 4: a better team. Dodgers just were able to pull off

2002
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Speaker 4: this series. The Padres I want to focus on because

2003
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Speaker 4: they're at a plus thirty four and run differentialition means

2004
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Speaker 4: they're they're beating up on people twelve and one at home.

2005
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Speaker 4: Is this something that we can see long term?

2006
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Speaker 5: Why or why not?

2007
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Speaker 4: This season for the Padres VJ, I believe.

2008
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Speaker 6: That we're going to see three teams in the postseason

2009
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Speaker 6: from the National League West. And that may sound like

2010
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Speaker 6: a lot, but we actually had three AL Central teams

2011
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Speaker 6: in the dance last year. We had three NL East

2012
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Speaker 6: teams in the dance last year. In the new format,

2013
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Speaker 6: and of course with the more balanced schedule, it's a

2014
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Speaker 6: little easier for you to get three playoff teams from

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Speaker 6: a single division. So I do believe that we're going

2016
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Speaker 6: to see that. Part of the reason is that Fernando

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Speaker 6: Tatis Junior right now is playing like an MVP.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if he's going to necessarily finish ahead

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Speaker 6: of Otani in the voting this year. It's still awfully early.

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Speaker 6: But when you think about someone like Tatis, who and

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Speaker 6: let's see when Otani's back on the mound, how much

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Speaker 6: success he has once he gets there. I think that's

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Speaker 6: all still an open question. But right now, Tatis is

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Speaker 6: playing an above average right field. Defensively, he's got an

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Speaker 6: amazing arm out there, really athletic, and he's leading off.

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Speaker 6: He's batting three point fifty one with a six thirty

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Speaker 6: six slug So he's basically putting up Ricky Anderson leadoff

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Speaker 6: type numbers offensively while playing an elite right field and

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Speaker 6: leading a team to a fifteen and six record. They've

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Speaker 6: basically been unbeatable at home. And Machado of course, is

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Speaker 6: playing really well too, and he's batting right in the

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Speaker 6: middle of that lineup, batting third. And you've got a

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Speaker 6: Rayahs batting second, who I think has made a really

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Speaker 6: big impact. Gavin Sheets has emerged somewhat surprisingly to take

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Speaker 6: on a pretty big role. I would expect that Aj Prother,

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Speaker 6: their president of baseball Operations, will be active at the

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Speaker 6: deadline as he typically is, and so they'll get better,

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Speaker 6: I believe between now in August and September. So I'm

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Speaker 6: a big believer in the Podres. I think the Giants

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Speaker 6: are for real. I really like the work that they've

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Speaker 6: done with how Buster Posey has really put his imprint

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Speaker 6: on that team so far this year. So I'm a

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Speaker 6: big believer in the NLS teams that are not named

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Obviously.

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Speaker 6: I'm a big believer in the Dodgers too, But we

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Speaker 6: haven't even talked about the Diamondbacks yet. I mean, they're

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Speaker 6: an excellent team too, Giaso, Yeah, exactly so so Giants,

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Speaker 6: d Backs, Padres, Dodgers. I think you've got four teams

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Speaker 6: that are labeled as contenders right now. The Rockies are not,

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Speaker 6: but the other four certainly are. And I think we're

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Speaker 6: going to see a really compelling National League West race

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Speaker 6: during the course of the season.

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Speaker 2: It is my opinion that Bob Melvin is one of

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Speaker 2: the most underrated managers in Major League history. I mean,

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Speaker 2: when you look at what he did with those Oakland teams,

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Speaker 2: it actually blows your mind. But when he came to

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Speaker 2: San Diego JP his first year with the Podres, I

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Speaker 2: will never forget this because the year before they had

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01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: burned through their bullpen early and they had no gas

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Speaker 2: left in the attach in the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: And over the first couple of months of his first

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Speaker 2: season the pod Race, he was telling these starting pitchers,

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Speaker 2: you're not going less than five. You're not going less

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Speaker 2: than five. I don't care if you've given up seven runs.

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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: We are going to get innings out of our starters.

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Speaker 2: And by season's and when they face the Dodgers in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, what happened the pattery bullpen dominated the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I say that because with the Giants right now, you

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Speaker 2: got Justin Verlander who's trying to find himself right now,

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Speaker 2: and in his last couple of starts, they've not been pretty.

2074
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a six to seventy five r

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Speaker 2: but you know what he got into the sixth inning

2076
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 2: and both those starts. Yeah, he's given up a lot

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Speaker 2: of hits, he given up a lot of runs, but

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Speaker 2: he will refuse to give in to the idea that

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Speaker 2: we're going to burn through our bullpen. I mean, the Dodgers'

2080
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 2: bullpen has already accumulated more bullpen innings than any other

2081
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 2: team in Major League Baseball. I just wish there were

2082
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 2: more managers that understood the way I look at it,

2083
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Speaker 2: how to handle starting pitchers, demanding innings out of my

2084
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 2: starting pitchers and not completely gassing my bullpen by mid season.

2085
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Speaker 6: That's a great point, Steve, and I think there's there

2086
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 6: has to be a real link between the way that

2087
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 6: Bob wants to use his rotation and the type of

2088
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 6: players that the GM is bringing in. And I do

2089
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 6: believe in San Francisco there's a little bit more of

2090
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 6: a simpatico feeling between him and Zach Manazien, who's the GM,

2091
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,480
Speaker 6: and of course Buster Posey was the president of Baseball Operations.

2092
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 6: I think they are all more aligned than he was

2093
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 6: in San Diego about what types of pitchers he wants.

2094
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 6: And you're right, I think that one of the hardest things.

2095
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 6: And I know different managers and people in the game

2096
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 6: have said this, and my mentor John Lowe shared this

2097
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 6: with me. One of the hardest things to manage and

2098
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 6: baseball is an aging star and that's what Verlander is.

2099
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 6: So how you handle him going forward is going to

2100
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Speaker 6: be a really challenging thing for Bob Melbourne. But I

2101
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 6: think you're really hitting on an important helmet of Bob's career.

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Speaker 6: Just as you're asking the question, I just made sure

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Speaker 6: I had this confirmed. He's taken basically in twelve different seasons.

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Speaker 6: Twelve he has had twelve winning seasons in Major League

2105
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Speaker 6: Baseball as a manager. Twelve. That is a lot. He

2106
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Speaker 6: has had eight different postseasons that he has been a

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Speaker 6: part of and right now he's certainly on his way

2108
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Speaker 6: to having another what would be the thirteenth winning season

2109
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Speaker 6: in the history of his career. So someone who has

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Speaker 6: had a lot of success. And by the way, if

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Speaker 6: he gets to the playoffs with the Giants, that's going

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Speaker 6: to be the fourth different organization that he's brought to

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Speaker 6: the postseason. That is the realm of some legends. Davy Johnson,

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Speaker 6: Billy Martin, Dusty Baker's done it, but very very few

2115
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Speaker 6: managers have done that in the history of the game.

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Speaker 6: So I think Bob Melvin is getting some deserved praise.

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Speaker 6: And you look at that division, and for me, Dave

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Speaker 6: Robertson he's going to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: Bob Melvin potentially has a shot at it, just based

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Speaker 6: on how young he still is. He's sixty three, which

2121
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Speaker 6: for me is still in the life of the manager,

2122
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 6: is very young. He's got a chance to do this

2123
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Speaker 6: for another decade or so and maybe win a couple

2124
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Speaker 6: championships in the mix. And I think Mike Schiltz done

2125
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 6: a great job with the Pidres. Toy Devello is excellent

2126
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Speaker 6: there in Air. So I think that division, you've got

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Speaker 6: a lot of really good tacticians and a lot of

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01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 6: really good communicators Steve.

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Speaker 2: As well, absolutely and three time manager of the Year

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Speaker 2: as well. I'm just a big mob Melvin fan.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we're gonna say the hockey talk.

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Speaker 2: I know the playoffs are getting started here, We're gonna

2133
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Speaker 2: save it for next week, get a few of the

2134
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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoff games under our belt, and then we're

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Speaker 2: breaking it down with you.

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Speaker 5: JP.

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Speaker 2: As always, enjoy your Easter Sunday, and we will talk

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01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 2: to you next week.

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Speaker 6: Half Eastern to you both here. I thought I was

2140
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 6: gonna be able to come on the air and talk

2141
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 6: about the Pistons victory over the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 6: But then, but then, my friends, then the fourth quarner,

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01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 6: the fourth quarner, run man playing a little bit twenty

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01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 6: one nothing run Yes, the next just they shot the

2146
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 6: ball really well and the Pistons did not. No.

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01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, it's only one game, best of seven. That's

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01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 5: why they have seven games.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited.

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01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 4: I still gain one though.

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Speaker 6: Hi, JP, thanks so much, Thanks so much, guys, I

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01:39:58,720 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 6: appreciate Easter.

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01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,480
Speaker 5: John Paul Morosi, let's find out what is a treading?

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 5: Moncey is uh, well, this game's a lot better than

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01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 5: the first game.

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01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 7: It's you took the words right out of my mouth. Yes,

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01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 7: way easier to sit through this game.

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01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 8: You know, I know Orlando is not expected to win,

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01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 8: but I like watching Orlando play. Polo Rio is like,

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01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 8: I love it, and you know, I know I call

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01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 8: me crazy, but he Isn't he a little LEBRONI like

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01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 8: in this He's a big dude that can move, that

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01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 8: has like I love watching Paolo van Cao. And they

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01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 8: are giving Boston a run for their money right now.

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01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 8: It's plenty. It's plenty early, guys. But we're about a

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01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 8: minute away from halftime and Orlando is up forty nine

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01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 8: to forty six.

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Speaker 7: Boston went on a little run in the second quarter.

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Speaker 7: They took the lead, but Orlando composed themselves.

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01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 8: They called the time out after Peyton Pritchet hit a

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01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 8: coup of threes off the bench, called the time out,

2173
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 8: composed themselves, have taken the lead, and here they are again,

2174
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 8: about less minute before we go into halftime. Paalo Bancaro

2175
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 8: nineteen points four Orlando. The league scorer for Boston is

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01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 8: Derek White, He's got fourteen points. But off the bench,

2177
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 8: Peyton Pritchard has eleven points, so we'll see how this

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01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 8: one ends. The first game a total snooze fest and

2179
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 8: is because the thunder crushed the Grizzlies. One thirty one

2180
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 8: to eighty was the finals score. Chad Holgern led the

2181
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 8: way with the double double nineteen points, ten rebounds, Shake

2182
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 8: Gildos Alexander four of thirteen, fifteen points, five assists.

2183
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 7: But it's all right. They won by fifty one, so

2184
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 7: Shay had nothing to worry about. In Major League Baseball,

2185
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 7: it's it's not a typo. But the Reds are up

2186
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 7: on the Orioles.

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01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 5: Twenty one two, twenty one, twenty.

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 7: One to shoo.

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01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think at this point, I don't know

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01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 8: who's pitching for the Orioles. Probably one of their infielders.

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01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what.

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01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 9: I know.

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01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 7: And it wasn't like this.

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01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 8: I mentioned it earlier that had a seven run inning

2195
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 8: and that's kind of where it all started, and they've

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01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 8: never looked back. Twenty one to two, top of the

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01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 8: ninth inning. It's in Baltimore, so we still have a

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01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 8: whole nother inning to go.

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Speaker 7: Just call it a game.

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01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 5: Just call it a game.

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Speaker 8: It's the bottom of the ninth inning. In Philadelphia and

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01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 8: the Marlins are on top seven five. It's been back

2203
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 8: and forth between those two. Miami is up right now

2204
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 8: and the Mariners just defeated the Blue Jays eight to three,

2205
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 8: bottom of the seventh inning. With the Brewers on top

2206
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 8: of the A's twelve to one top of the third,

2207
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 8: Cubs on the scoreboard first against.

2208
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 7: The Diamondbacks yep, one zero.

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01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 8: The Dodgers and the Rangers still scoreless. It's the bottom

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01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 8: of the seventh inning in Texas. The Nationals have a

2211
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 8: three to two lead over the Rockies in game one

2212
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 8: of their double header. It's in Colorado, bottom of the

2213
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 8: sixth inning, top of the third inning with the Giants

2214
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 8: and the Angels.

2215
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 7: They are scoreless.

2216
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 8: Victories for the White Sox and the Guardians, who took

2217
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 8: down the Pirates and ten innings. In Pittsburgh, the Braves

2218
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 8: had a six to two victory over the Twins and

2219
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 8: the Royals took down the Tigers four three in ten innings,

2220
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 8: while the Yankees shut out the Rays for zero and

2221
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 8: the Mets did beat the Cardinals seven to four. Juan

2222
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 8: Soto not too bad today, two for three and three

2223
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 8: RBIs hey not too chevy?

2224
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 5: How much money the Mets give them.

2225
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 7: Way too much. Absolutely, wait too much. He misses the Yankees.

2226
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 7: It's it's just yeah, but it's early, it's early.

2227
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 5: He's Soda is one of those guys.

2228
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at his numbers, obviously this

2229
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 2: guy is an elite player. I mean, guy's got monster numbers.

2230
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 2: But when he was in San Diego, it just I'm sorry.

2231
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: I mean I was more focused on Tatis or Machado.

2232
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 2: It didn't he didn't have that whatever. It is like,

2233
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, you've got to see him at the plate.

2234
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think it has maybe to do with

2235
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 8: his personality a little bit as well.

2236
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 5: Like I agree with you, it is quirky.

2237
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, you know, if if Aaron Judges

2238
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 2: of the play gotta watch show him, I gotta watch.

2239
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 7: This guy right right, Like Fernando Tattoos, It's like I

2240
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 7: don't want to watch, but I'm gonna.

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01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch, you know, I want to see what

2242
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 5: he does. If one Sodo just doesn't do that, it's weird.

2243
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 8: But you're right, and it has nothing to do with

2244
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 8: his numbers and the performance. I think it's the X

2245
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 8: factor that we talked about that he's just not there.

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01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: This is what we go.

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01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna go old school, back to Reggie Jackson.

2248
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Reggie Jackson. The only career

2249
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: record he holds a strikeouts. Okay, but he put butts

2250
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 2: in seats. See Reggie Jackson put butts in seats. You

2251
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 2: wanted to see Reggie Jackson. You know, show Hey puts

2252
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 2: butts in seats.

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01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 4: Every time Showy swings the bat, it's almost like Steph

2254
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 4: Curry taking the three pointer. You're like, he's gonna get

2255
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 4: a hit, He's gonna get I think he's going to

2256
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 4: hit a home run.

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01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 5: Did you see that home run that show him? Is

2258
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 5: that thing landed?

2259
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: It's past just a hit. Yeah, I'm saying Derek Jeter

2260
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 4: was a hit. Like every time, every time Derek Jeter

2261
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 4: got to play, you just think. But that's always the question.

2262
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 4: When I'm paying a player huge money, I'm banking on

2263
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 4: he's going to be good for my business.

2264
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 2: In other words, people will pay to see him, right,

2265
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 2: he will pay the seat. See that's the way baseball

2266
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 2: was in the early days, long before free agency. You

2267
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 2: paid Mickey Mantle, you paid Willie Mays because those are

2268
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 2: the guys that put butts in seats. You didn't pay

2269
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 2: your two ninety hitting second basement big money because now

2270
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 2: everybody get to the big money and you're like, how

2271
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: many guys? Actually you can say I would pay to

2272
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 2: see him?

2273
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 4: It's like that in all sports, though, because look at

2274
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 4: it is. Look at Rudy Gober's contract. Hey, boys and girls,

2275
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 4: you don't even have to average eleven points and you

2276
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 4: could sign a two hundred million dollar contract.

2277
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 5: How many people are walking in if you rebound? How many?

2278
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 5: How many people walk to a te Wolves? Who are

2279
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 5: you here to see Rudy go?

2280
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 4: How many go Bear jerseys you think are at a

2281
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 4: Tables home game?

2282
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 6: Come?

2283
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 8: Not one?

2284
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 5: Actually?

2285
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 7: Not One's so twenty four? Now for the Reds, twenty

2286
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 7: four runs?

2287
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 5: Okay, twenty forty four.

2288
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 7: Still they're still playing. They're still playing.

2289
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 5: You gotta get to thirty. That'd be something a players.

2290
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 2: All right, Another one, thank you, min Another one, thank you,

2291
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 2: another one, thank you.

2292
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 5: All right.

2293
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,120
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Speaker 2: into Fox Sports Radios Draft Night, which is Thursday night

2298
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 2: at a pm Eastern throughout the first round of the draft.

2299
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Insider Jay Glazer, former Jets general manager Joe Douglas, college

2300
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Speaker 2: football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington, and Fox Sports League

2301
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Speaker 2: College football reporter Jenny Tapp will have you covered for

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Speaker 2: all thirty two bigs of predictions and reactions. That's Thursday

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01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 2: a PM Easterns throughout the first round of the draft,

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01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 2: live right here in Fox Sports Radio with a live

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Speaker 2: video simoncast on Fox Sports Radio YouTube page, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by ship Station. Let me ask you this, VJ.

2307
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: When it comes to the draft. Sure, do you do

2308
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 2: your own mock draft?

2309
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely, I have a love draft show.

2310
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 6: I know you do.

2311
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved so you will have a Now do

2312
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 2: you do this like you say you do? Multiple brackets

2313
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: for no, No, not just one of my draft. One

2314
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 2: mock draft, one mock draft.

2315
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 4: It'll be finished up by Wednesday night. I just go

2316
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 4: through and I make the trades. Like I think someone's

2317
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 4: moving up, someone's moving out. I just don't think the

2318
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 4: top ten sits still somebody's gonna move out.

2319
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 5: Well, it always does.

2320
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 4: But there's gonna it's just nobody this year is just

2321
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 4: picking who's gonna do it correctly and then what player

2322
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 4: do you think they're doing it for? So yeah, I

2323
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 4: mean listen, when you do this as much as we do,

2324
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 4: you put together a mock draft, like it's always funny

2325
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 4: to be people who hate them. It's like if you

2326
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 4: hate them, they don't look at well.

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01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: What would you say then if what is your usual scorecard?

2328
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: Not necessarily well?

2329
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,759
Speaker 5: How many? How many? Okay, I forget just you know players?

2330
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: How many players out of thirty two in the first

2331
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 2: round you say you predicted to be a first round pick,

2332
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: regardless of the team that end up being first round.

2333
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I like, if I get too I like,

2334
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 4: if I can at least get half of them in there?

2335
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if I can get sexon on this, I

2336
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 2: get fifteen sixteen guys, I laugh on people, So oh,

2337
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 2: I got like twenty eight out of thirty.

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01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 4: You did well, and you know what, listen whatever if

2339
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 4: you did okay, cool, well I could see whatever.

2340
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's sort of like we have years

2341
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 2: like where you script the first fifteen plays of the game, right,

2342
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 2: and it's pretty close, right, and then forget it.

2343
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I when I coached high school football in

2344
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 4: this passion, it only takes we scripped our first ten plays.

2345
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 2: It only takes one team to take someone out of order. Yes,

2346
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 2: and then it's a domino offect.

2347
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 5: It happens every year.

2348
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 4: Whoever moves up and moves down should door standers is

2349
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 4: the lynch pick for the first fifteen picks.

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01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 5: All right, So I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Get some insight from VJ on what to expect when

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Speaker 2: we get to Thursday. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve

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Speaker 2: Harbin and VJ Husky Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from

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Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com Studios. Want to thank our

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Speaker 2: crew today. Montsey brilliant as always. I'm a very busy

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Speaker 2: scoreboard day. Absolutely, Chris. Yes, are you ready for the

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft?

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 3: I have been doing a ton of research and unlike

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Speaker 3: last year, we will have a Pride to Detroit stream

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Speaker 3: for the first two nights.

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Speaker 5: So I'm very excited to get back to this. It's

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Speaker 5: a very fun night.

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Speaker 3: I get to touch up with a lot of people

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Speaker 3: I know, talk about a lot of stuff through it,

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Speaker 3: and as I said, it's not it's not a terribly

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Speaker 3: exciting draft at the top. But if you're a trenches

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Speaker 3: guy like me, you like the big bev boys, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a very fun draft, and I think I

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Speaker 3: think what it means is that if you're someone who's

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Speaker 3: deep in the draft, like the rest of the top fifty,

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Speaker 3: top one hundred, there's gonna be a lot of drama

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01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,839
Speaker 3: and a lot of guys in places you don't expect

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Speaker 3: them to be in The draft should be fun night.

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Speaker 2: I still think if you're only in the quarterbacks, I

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01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,839
Speaker 2: still think there's a lot to be said about Shudor Sander.

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01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 2: Sure you got Jackson Dart, about Jaylen Milrow, I mean,

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Speaker 2: wore these guys guys drop it rise.

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Speaker 3: I mean even on the edge questions like I love

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Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart, but I can't get a consensus. You know,

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Speaker 3: I talk with Brandon in the back, and I can't

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Speaker 3: get a consensus now and then, because you look at

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Speaker 3: what Shamar did. He's amazing, he's athletic, he does a

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Speaker 3: bunch of pressures. But some people only look at the

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Speaker 3: four see the four and a half sacks three years

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Speaker 3: at A and M, and they just lose their mind.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, no, that's a red flag. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it just it's created a lot of different interesting questions

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Speaker 3: about this draft.

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Speaker 2: The year after year with the draft, we have the

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01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: can't miss guys that miss and other guys are saying, oh, man,

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 2: and you're reaching for that guy and the guy turns

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Speaker 2: out to be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Then you find someone really fun in the third round

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Speaker 3: and that's on day three late.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's where you earn your money.

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Speaker 2: That's where you earn your money if you're a talent evaluator.

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Speaker 2: And of course, speaking of talent, Patrick, oh you Patrick,

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Speaker 2: we have missed you.

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Speaker 5: Patrick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Patrick is one of those rising stars in

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: the building. Is like shuffle them around and doing this,

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Speaker 2: doing that, and we've missed you.

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Speaker 5: Patrick.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad. I'm glad to be back. I'm glad

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01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 9: to see you guys faces again. It's it's been it's

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Speaker 9: been a minute. But hey, I've been holding it down

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Speaker 9: elsewhere on Saturdays and Sundays, you know, with Andy Furman

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Speaker 9: and with the countdown guys, it's like I've been holding mown.

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Speaker 2: I look at it this way, Patrick, Remember where you

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Speaker 2: cut your teeth, Remember where you cutch you you always

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Speaker 2: do every day. Thank you and by the way, all

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Speaker 2: the best of your dad. Yeah, always always a big

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Speaker 2: time all right, So VJ, let's let's talk about Thursday.

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Speaker 5: So how does this work for you?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Of course you'll be listening here at Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: or watching the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel with all

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Speaker 2: of our analysts breaking it all down. But let's let's

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Speaker 2: go into the world of VJ. Husky. It's Draft night.

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Speaker 2: We're about to get things started.

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Speaker 5: Roger Goodell in green Bay, Green Bay, Wisconsin, hosting this

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Speaker 5: year's draft, which is find Yeah, it's still kind of cold, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: a little bit cold. I don't know if you've been

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Speaker 5: to Green Bay. I went there one time.

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Speaker 2: It was the opening game of the eighty seventh season

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Speaker 2: when I worked for the Raiders. The weather was beautiful

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01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 2: when I was there, and it just, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: only one thing in town. It's the Packers. There's not

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01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 2: much else in Green Bay. It's all about the Packers.

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Speaker 2: But how are you going to settle in? You're going

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01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 2: to have your list in front of you. Yes, to

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Speaker 2: start checking off names.

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Speaker 4: Ye, I'll listen in front of me, start checking off names.

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01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 4: Some teams moving the Dolphin, even my beloved Dolphins. At thirteen,

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01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 4: I would like to see them trade out of that

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Speaker 4: pick and slide back and probably gain some more draft capital.

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Speaker 4: We need a corner and with Tehron Armstead retiring, I

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01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 4: spoke to him a week ago, so I gave him

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Speaker 4: a call and congratulate them on a season and did

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01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 4: the offensive the tackle position has to be address. You

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01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 4: have Banks right there from Texas. I think sure it

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01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 4: fits for him. I think he's a plug and play guy.

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01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 4: But you got to figure out this offensive line that's

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01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 4: been a problem for the last five or six years,

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01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 4: and it's just hasn't gotten better even though you've drafted

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01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 4: and you've spent money on.

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Speaker 5: Is it different when you have a left handed quarterback.

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01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 4: Probably is, But you still need the guys to be

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Speaker 4: able to block up front, hold hold off blitzers, and

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Speaker 4: hold off and and hold off defenders. And then still,

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Speaker 4: of course, I just think somebody moves up. I just

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Speaker 4: don't think the top ten or the top eleven stays

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Speaker 4: past giants moving out. I can see Jacksonville sliding on.

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Speaker 5: What about Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: I just I just get a sense because remember the

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Speaker 2: buzz out of Indianapolis at the combine, is that the

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01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 2: Titans were you know, basically asking anybody interested in moving

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Speaker 2: up to number one, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, okay, we're locked into Campbell, go.

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Speaker 4: Do camp worse pro day and they leave his pro

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01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 4: day going oh, you know wow, but okay, so that's

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Speaker 4: the clean act two. Go ahead? Uh, I mean already

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Speaker 4: told you what I would do if I were him.

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Speaker 4: I to cut DeShawn Watson maybe a month ago, and

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Speaker 4: just cut the check and then start all over with

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Speaker 4: the quarterback. I just don't think there's a player that

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Speaker 4: you can get other than a quarterback that you need

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Speaker 4: right now that can change what next year is going

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Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 5: Right, they've done pretty much with the Giants dead, and

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Speaker 5: then they bring Flacco.

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Speaker 4: Back and yeah, fly, yeah, it's a fact and isn't

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Speaker 4: as Mitchell Trubisky also there? Ye, So so you have DeShawn,

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01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 4: you have Trubisky, and then you have Flaco.

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Speaker 2: So basically two teams that two and three just threw

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Speaker 2: a bunch of you know, driftwood on their quarterback position

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01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 2: without really addressing the future of their quarterback position and

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Speaker 2: their should do Sanders. So ultimately, what is your prediction

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Speaker 2: which team will draft Shouldure Sanders.

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Speaker 5: I want it on the record right now. VJ. Husky,

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Speaker 5: Which team will draft should Sanders?

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Speaker 4: Can I give two teams, but you can give me

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Speaker 4: a one A, one B. One A would be when

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 4: it would be the Saints they move up. One B

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Speaker 4: would be alone my long shot as the Red they

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01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 4: have They have Gino and they just gave Geno an extension,

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01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 4: so you know she does not gonna want to go

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01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 4: nowhere and have to sit for a year or even two, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean somewhere we can play right now. Wouldn't be

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01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 4: the worst then, yeah, but it will also wuldn't be

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01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 4: the worst thing. If you go to the Saints, they

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Speaker 4: move up and you let him and Spencer battle it out.

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01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 4: Derek Carr's not gonna play, and you sign a veteran

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01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 4: it's the third guy to back them up for the

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01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 4: second guy. And she do is your starn quarterback. If

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Speaker 4: you draft him, you got a star Wars Light Tennessee.

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01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 4: If you're gonna take cam wardon and one overall, ken

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Speaker 4: Ward's starrn quarterback opening.

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Speaker 5: The day, Travis Hunter with the Giants or the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I let Travis Hunter to the Browns numbers, so I

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01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 4: just think you can't they can't pass up on him.

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Speaker 2: See how everyone keeps making this big point about him

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01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 2: playing both ways. He can play spot duty at wide receiver.

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01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 2: To me, his value is as a.

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Speaker 5: Corner if you have and Dione Sanders knows this.

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Speaker 2: Remember Deon, You remember the one year in nineteen ninety

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01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: six he caught thirty six passes for the cow Voiceboards,

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01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:01,839
Speaker 2: but he only had one touchdown.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't that dynamic of a wide receiver, even as sister.

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Speaker 4: Shaw Johnson one hundred one catches one touchdown came it.

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Speaker 5: There much work coming up on Fox Sports Radio