WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: What? How? What’s Next? 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:13.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Well Cowboys, This He's 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.800 Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.360 at the Star in Priscilla. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.520 Six scents, dot Ti tis any paint tuchdown. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:33.479 And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.400 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.640 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the first Say It with 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.600 Your Chest Friday of the twenty twenty five season. It's 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.120 a little bit of a different feel, but it's still 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.479 the same sentiment because over the next forty five minutes 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.080 we're gonna say it with our chest because there's a 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.160 lot to talk about that has happened over the last 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.200 twenty four hours. It is a Friday edition of Talking 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.160 Cowboys present by Black Rifle Coffee Company. We have Patrick 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:06.040 Nosey Walker, Josh Roderiguez, Tommy Yarrich with Chris Chris Beam 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:07.080 in the back. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.680 QUI is sweam in the quick. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:11.440 Said? 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:12.360 I was thirteen? 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:20.200 Yeah, I love the baby. Wait where was the this guy's. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.839 Chris brother? 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.440 This guy stakes? 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.240 Can we start over? 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:29.200 Just like now? 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:30.720 You know how I felt the other day. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:42.000 Nah, shut up, Okay, the uh good and terrible Oh Man, guys, 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.440 Micah Parsons is no longer a Dallas cowboy. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.119 What it is done? 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:47.560 Oh yeah, the. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.280 Movie actually one of the radar yesterday and. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.200 I went home after lunch, Yesterdakay, well you missed quite 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.640 about oh darn the news reigning down at about three 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:04.360 fifty five Central time. It was really kind of interesting. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:09.320 Our entire department of writers and on air personality and 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.079 anybody with the media except for the managers. We're all 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.720 in an HR meeting. It just like not like a 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.280 bad HR meeting. It was a scheduled thing and it 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.640 was just one of those place evaluation sort of situations. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.000 And then immediately Tommy arch is like they traded michaeh. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.799 Let's go like we all stormed. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.040 Out of there and then feel bad because I need 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.440 to go to h Hard apologize because I I just said, 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:31.959 I'm sorry. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:33.800 We have to go do this, we have to go 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.840 take care of this. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.320 Weird and of course they understood. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.240 They did, but I hope so definitely did. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.440 We don't have a letter on my desk when we 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:41.480 get back up. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:42.120 No, of course not. 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.240 No, it made sense. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.080 Cowboys trade Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers. In return, 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.919 they get a twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.400 first round pick. Then they get Kenny Clark, interior defensive 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.200 lineman from the Packers, a three time Pro bowler coming 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.680 off probably his worst year as a pro in the 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.920 n af fell. But he's twenty nine years old, still 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:03.800 has some tread left on the tires, and it gives 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.200 you a nose tackle to build around on that defensive front. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.560 The Packers didn't go on to sign Micah to a 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.280 four year, one hundred and eighty eight million dollar extension 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.480 with one hundred and thirty six million of that guaranteed. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:25.679 That's the situation. What just happened, Patrick, We talked about 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:26.440 it already. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.239 Yesterday a little bitty podcast. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.400 But wow, even after a night's sleep, and it was 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.520 a rough night's sleep. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.120 Yeah, even after a night's sleep, I woke up with 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.120 the same, the same simple thought, which was wow, that 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:46.720 actually happened. And again I can't stress enough how how 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.840 wild it is to see the regression of the relationship 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.000 between Michael Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys deteriorated. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.160 I mean, oh quickly. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:01.960 Goodness, too. I mean from just last year. Jerry Jones 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.520 and Michael Parsons. They're sitting at the Cotton Bowl. They're 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.920 having a beer, they're eating their hot dogs, They're enjoying themselves. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.320 Michael Parsons says, I want to be a Cowboy forever. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.119 Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones they're saying, yes, we want 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.960 him to be a Cowboy forever. Michael Parsons grew up 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:21.000 a Cowboys fan. It's the storybook ending right wrong because 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.360 at some point in that chronology and again check out 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.800 Tommy Yash's story of the chronology on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.320 Com follows everything that occurred in that timeline, but for 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:37.200 it to end up being irreconcilable. I've I've been thinking 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.000 about have I ever seen a situation like this with 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.560 the Cowboys in my time being alive? And the answer 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:49.560 is no, because we've seen contentious contract negotiations. It's a 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.760 thing here. It's a thing. Dak Prescott on a couple 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.400 of occasions, DeMarcus Lawrence on a couple of occasions. Ceedee 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.680 Lamb had chose to hold out Zach mar and was 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.000 absent in camp until he got a pay increase and 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.320 it goes back even further than that. So we all 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.120 had the thought, this isn't entirely different from that. This 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.880 is the this is the show. Okay, in the end, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.760 they'll hug it out, they'll be friends, much like CD did, 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.160 much like DAK did, so forth and so on. But 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.720 the more this dragged on, the more it started to 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.080 feel like they might actually get a divorce. And then 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:34.719 earlier this week it became possible, and then as early 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:39.040 as a couple of days ago it became probable, and 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.680 then likely, and then, like Tommy said yesterday, we're sitting 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.400 in the HR meeting and hopefully we're not fired this 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.839 afternoon for running out of. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.400 The HR meeting, Please forgive us. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.400 Yeah, the meteor hits the planet, and yeah, he's going 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.480 to the Green Bay Packers. So the Packers effectively got 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.320 what we talked about yesterday is their new Reggie White 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.520 and the cow Boys have some things to figure out. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:01.320 You know. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.440 I go back to just talking with some people this 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.719 week and last night. I go back to the meeting 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:12.000 in March that happened between Jerry Jones, Steven Jones, and 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:17.720 Michael Parsons, when effectively they sat down and negotiated this 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.160 framework of a contract in certain terms of the contract, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:26.040 and for the most part, came to an agreement. And 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.000 I think when you look at the past with Jerry Jones, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.520 he's a big He's big on trust and if you 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.640 don't have Jerry Jones's trust, you're gone. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.240 Yeah, And I. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.000 Think there is a part of an element to this 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.320 where when Michael Parsons wanted to get his agent involved, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.720 which by the way, I fully agree with him doing. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.200 I mean, the guy's twenty six years old, it's his 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.200 first major contract negotiation. Of course you get an agent involved. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.240 But I think when the offer was out on the 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.880 table and then it was presented to Jerry Johns saying hey, 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.720 we're going to have to redo this, I think that 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.039 rubbed them the wrong way. And I think that was 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.280 one of the reasons why this ended up being the case, is, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.520 you know, he thought that they had something. He thought 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.800 Michael Parsons was going to be taken care of. He's 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.480 going to be the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.080 the most guaranteed money for a non quarterback in NFL history, 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.360 and it was taken off the table. And you see, 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.480 we've heard Jerry talk about that a couple of times 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.120 now since then that hey, we had a deal knocked out. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.880 We had a deal knocked out. But in this case, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:36.600 should emotions be the reason why you can't get something done? Ultimately? 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.080 I don't think so, you know. I think I think 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.520 you try to find a way to move past it. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.360 But I think there are other factors and layers to 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.720 this too, you know. I thought it was really interesting 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.360 just some of the things that Jerry was saying yesterday 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.320 when he was asked about how do you tell the 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.280 locker room this or how do you convince the locker. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:52.600 Room to move forward? 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.680 And Jerry said, I feel good about where we're at 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.960 in the locker room, maybe better. And I think that's 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.720 really telling. That's really telling about, you know, how he 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.440 feels like this team is going to go moving forward. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.160 At the end of the day, when I link at 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.920 the compensation, I think they could have gotten. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.320 More just because absolutely, I. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.960 Mean, players like Michel Parsons don't come around very often, 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.239 and players like Michael Parsons aren't available for trade very often, 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.520 so teams are going to give up a lot to 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.080 get him. And I'm not saying Kenny Clark's not a 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.120 good player. I'm not saying two first round picks isn't good. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.200 I think you could have gotten more. And you know, 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.800 I think the timing of all this, with it being 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.800 a week away from the season, certainly has a part 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:38.760 to do with it too. But it is a unprecedented 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.440 trade and one that I mean, we might never cover 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.480 a trade like this ever again. But now you know, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.960 you got to very quickly turn your focus to Philadelphia 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.080 here in six days. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.640 I think there's just a bit of shock to all 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.200 of this. When we were talking about it yesterday, Tommy's 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.840 saying in the moment, like this might be the biggest 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.160 trade in Nful history. I was the quote that I'm 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.160 pulling from Tommy Yrsh And at the time when you 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.000 said that, I was sort of in like, I don't know, man, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.760 because it kind of felt like this might be happening, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.760 like I was. And granted, we're in the building, we're 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:17.320 hearing these kind of rumblings going on, and I guess 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.040 for me, the shock of it all was him going 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.000 to Green Bay. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.960 Of all places. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.640 Whe that's a thorn, been a thorn in the side 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.600 of the Cowboys for a very long time. That to 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.400 me was the most shocking of it all, but also 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.559 outside looking in, this might be the biggest trade to 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.760 happen in NFL history at this point, like looking at 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.600 not just the name of the player, but where he's 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.400 at in his career. It's four years in. He's not 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:46.679 quite hit his prime yet. And speaking of prime, you 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.960 look at the Dean Sanders being traded from the Atlanta 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.040 Falcons and you know that for them, how difficult that 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.680 must have been in that scenario. You're looking at it 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.800 right now and you're having to cope with these things. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:00.800 You're going through the stages of grief because a lot 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.320 of people really love this player. One thing that I've 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.559 that Patrick just mentioned is Jerry He's always gets this 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.760 guy paid. Dak paid, Zeke paid, Emmitt paid. You know, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.360 all of these the guys that you'd expected. Jerry doesn't 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:21.319 say he pays his guys. Was Michael Parson really that guy? 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:21.720 Did? 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.319 I mean, ultimately, after all of this, you know, they 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:31.840 talked about leadership, They talked about how since March it 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.360 feels and not necessarily I don't think this is the 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:35.880 grand scheme. I don't think this is the grand plan. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.000 I'm not trying to put that out there and say like, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.920 oh yeah, they thought of this from the beginning. It's 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.880 been this grand master plan that they've had. But was 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.000 part of this any part of this attest to his leadership. 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.400 They moved him next to Dak Prescott to improve his leadership, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.120 dragging this contract situation out and ultimately saying like, Okay, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.240 we're gonna do the same thing we did with Dak. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.400 He didn't get the contract. The contract negotiations is done 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.240 in the offseason, so you're gonna have to pay on 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:10.240 that fifth year option. He decides to go get a 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:17.840 second opinion, possibly, you know. To me, at every point 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.520 this felt like testing his leadership skills and if he 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.680 was able to get past that hump and show that 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.120 he was willing to do what it took to play 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.400 for the Dallas Cowboys. So when he's laying on the 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:35.079 table in the preseason, when he's he's showing disinterest for guys, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.600 his teammates that are out there attempting to play for 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.800 their football lives. And Micha Parsons is a made guy. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.520 He's going to play, there's no doubt about it. He's 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.640 made the team, of course, but the disinterest that he 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.840 showed on the sideline, the disrespect that he showed to 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:56.200 his fellow players, intended or not, for the big picture, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.800 intended or not, I think that showed them what they 0:11:58.800 --> 0:11:59.360 needed to see. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:05.680 As your question, Michael Parsons was absolutely a Jerry Jones guy, 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:10.520 much like Dak Prescott is, Ceedie Lamb is, Emmitt Smith was, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.839 Ezekiel Elliott was DeMarcus Lawrence was because it was Jerry 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.520 who ultimately called DeMarcus and said, you know what, enough 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.599 is enough. Let's hash this out, and they got it 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:23.240 hashed out. Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a relationship 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.319 prior to this dissolution that is rarely seen. I mean, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.640 like Jerry Jones even said it in the press conference yesterday, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.920 only three people have his phone number. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.400 Michael Parsons was one of those. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.720 I think that's a blatant Maybe Tad is the second person. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:44.040 Patrick No, No, his his lovely wife is the third. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.520 But of course that was a tongue in cheek statement. Sure, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.560 but what he was trying to say is that's how 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.360 close they were. So there was not simply a fracture. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:58.840 There was a hard split in the planet underneath that relationship. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.400 And I believe that or split. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.520 Yes, it ultimately ended up with we could argue that, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.200 and it's a justifiable argument that him lying on the 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.199 table impacted it. I agree optics wise, I agree that 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:15.079 it did, but scale back earlier than that. It really 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.480 goes down to the point where he was Jerry Jones's guy. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.520 Jerry Jones had the offer out there for him. Jerry 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.600 even said yesterday, we don't know if it's exactly true. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.760 We'd have to hear from Micah and his representatives see 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.200 if it's true. But he said that the guaranteed money 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.400 that was offered by the Cowboys was greater than the 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.880 guaranteed money he ended up getting from the packers. So 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.480 what I'm saying here with that point is is that, yes, 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:39.839 Jerry was willing to pay him. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.880 He said it several times. We could have signed him. 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:42.880 We were willing to sign him. 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.839 But what did Jerry consistently harken back to something you said? 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.439 Trust? He trusted. His perception of. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.680 The engagement was that we had this deal negotiated and 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.080 then you came back and tried to use our negotiation 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.640 as the floor for a new negotiation. He just that 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.680 broke the trust. So from there everything spiraled out of control. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.520 What he said is they wanted to start to get 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:06.880 negotiations where I end. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.800 Where it ended, right, And you know, I think the 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.920 interesting part too was Jerry confirming our good friend Jane 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.760 Slater's report that you know, at the end of the day, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.280 he came up to Jerry Johnson there, Jerry Jones came 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.800 to Michael Parsons when he and his representatives tried to 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.560 come back and rekindle negotiations and said, look, either play 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:30.720 on your fifth year or let's no more. And Michael 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.800 Parsons didn't want to play on his fifth year, rightfully, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.040 So I mean, he deserves his money, I think, and 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.960 he and it ends up being traded. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:37.120 Now. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.600 I don't know if the offer that was on the 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.520 table from Dallas was that much less than Green Bays, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.120 but nonetheless, you know, he was. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.920 Less than forty seven, Yeah, forty seven. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.280 It was less than forty seven. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.920 Yeah, I don't know if it was substantially less than 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:52.800 forty seven, none of that. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.040 There's nothing, there's nothing that we can do about it now. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:57.960 Green Bay clear of the fence. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.800 But yeah, they did. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.240 They did. When you look at a player like Micah 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.680 Parsons and I've got a stat here from Pro Football 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.040 Focus highest pressure rates over a four season span in 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.320 NFL history. Actually it's in the NFL, but it since 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.520 two thousand and six. I'm going to name some guys 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:23.720 on this list. Von Miller, Aaron Donald, Nick Bosa, Miles Garrett, 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.440 JJ Watt, Alden Smith who of course was great early 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.640 in his career but kind of fizzled out later, Khalil Mack, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:35.400 DeMarcus Ware, Dwight Freeney. You get what I'm doing, right. 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.240 You know who's at the top of that list. Michael 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.560 Parsons is at the top of that list, not second 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.000 or third or fourth behind these other great names. He's 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.080 top of the list. So to see a player traded 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.360 four years into a career where those four years, this 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.120 is not the first four years of a career compared 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.520 with Aaron Donald and Von Miller and all these different guys, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.840 this is the best four year span and that Von Miller, 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.200 Aaron Donald, Nick Bosa and all these guys had in 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.360 terms of doing their job the right way and getting 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:10.440 pressure on an opponent. And Michael Parsons was better than 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:15.160 those guys over his first four years as a part 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:19.120 of the NFL. I like two first round picks. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:19.520 I do. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.480 Don't get me wrong. I love the draft show. I 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.880 love the NFL draft. This team has been good at drafting. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.320 I love getting first round draft picks. They haven't picked 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.920 in the first round twice since two thousand and eight. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.440 It's been a long time since this front office has 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.040 done it. I love it. I like Kenny Clark. I 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.720 think Kenny Clark's a good player. He was banged up 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.800 a little bit last year, played through injury, had a 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.640 down year. Like I said at the start of the show, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.040 Kenny Clark is a good player, don't get me wrong. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.160 But for the conversation to stop there, that's where I 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.920 have the problem. Correct, That's where if you wanted to 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.480 throw in another at least Day two pick a second 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.240 or a third, then maybe we at least I feel 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.000 a little bit better about this whole situation. Maybe you 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.080 throw in Edrin Cooper, who's a young defender that can 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.119 kind of play a role in your defense, in your 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.040 front seven, and he would be another toy for Matt 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.840 Eberflus to play with when it comes to Devari and 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.320 Overshown coming back. Having those two guys next to each 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.320 other would have been a brilliant time. How about some 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.640 of the other players on this Packers roster that are 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.639 young and have some upside. I mean, I don't know 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.679 if any of those guys were ever in the conversation, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.840 but what we know is that it's two first round picks, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.960 it's Kenny Clark, and for those two things, or those 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:38.399 three things to come together and try and match the 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.720 production that Micah had through his first four years. And 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.960 I'm just talking on the field. I'm talking football here. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.040 I don't think you're gonna have that. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.679 Equal And maybe we do. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:54.320 Maybe Dallas has a great couple of drafts and they 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.720 go bang bang bang bang with these four first round picks, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.879 or you package it and you get the future of 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:03.040 your franchise with the first round picks in tow whenever 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.840 you've got those over the next two years. Maybe that's 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.679 the case. But right now I'm looking at it, and 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.480 that's a high ceiling and a high expectation to ask 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.520 for because you had the future of your franchise on defense, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.760 and all you had to do was push the check 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.000 across the table the right way. Now, I know there 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.280 are two sides to this, and I know Michah Parsons. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.000 There is a there was a fine rift, and that 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.040 rift wasn't just from one side, it was from both sides. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.520 So I'm not blaming the entire thing on the front office. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.920 I'm not blaming all of it on Michael Parsons as well. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.720 But as a Cowboys fan, somebody that grew up watching 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.560 this team, enjoyed watching guys like DeMarcus where play football 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.600 and lead a defense. Micah could have been that because 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.520 the number show he was better than that. He could 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.879 have been that throughout his entire career, and now we 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.600 don't get a chance to see it. This isn't Luka Doncic. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.320 Let me just say that too, for those that are 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.600 comparing it to Luca, This is not Luca. It wasn't 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.600 a surprise thing in the middle of the night where 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.720 Luca is stunned by and crying and he's going to 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.680 l a and and he's upset in the press conference 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.040 and they get one first round pick and Anthony Davis 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:08.840 who can't stay on the court. It's not This is 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.520 not Luka Doncic. None of that is true. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.040 No, it's true, But. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.280 I'm just saying I'm a mass fan too. It's not Luca, 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.720 but it's also not right at the same time. That's 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.000 kind of where I'm at. 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.399 So there there are a lot of levels and layers 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.040 to this that that I take issue with, but I'm 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.480 gonna I'm going to jump right on that particular compensation 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:36.359 point my thing. And I even tweeted this earlier yesterday 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.359 when the smell of the trade started to kind of 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:46.960 waft more and more, I said, I want your entire soul. Yeah, 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.040 two planets, right, I want, I want it right, So 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.840 two planets and the solar we need, Jupiter and Saturday, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.119 we need the rings that come. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.760 All at I want both of your dogs out the weed. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:04.800 That's a bar. So you have Yeah, you did, you did. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.720 I didn't catch it's because I piggybacked on Josh's points 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.679 through that HR yesterday. 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:12.760 Nice. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:17.120 So what the Cowboys got was a compensation package. What 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.040 I what I wanted for Michael Parsons was a hall, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.080 an absolute hall. 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:26.560 It's a good compensation, but. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.400 I agree with it. They're not pulling up a good. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:35.000 Compensation package for a record setting, potential future Hall of 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.359 Fame talent. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.119 The scale is off balance. 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.040 I think that that's the problem I have with that 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:43.280 poor see the Luca. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.280 Trade broke the scale in the wrong direct, in the 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.760 wrong it broke it. I don't think this breaks the scale, 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:48.399