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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, Elizabeth Dutton, Yo, Zaren Burnette.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've been looking for you all over. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>you're here because I'm tired. My back hurts. So I

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<v Speaker 3>had a question for you. Can you sit down for

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<v Speaker 3>a second? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Fine?

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, you see it? You comfortable? Okay? Do you know

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<v Speaker 3>what's ridiculous? I do? Okay, Well then you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So what's ridiculous is? I got a couple aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of this. It's ridiculous. One, it's ridiculous how much I

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<v Speaker 2>love to lurk on Reddit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Two?

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<v Speaker 2>This ai t a am I the a whole Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a subreddit. It's ridiculous. How much good content there

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<v Speaker 2>is there? And this particular post is absolutely peak ridiculous. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to read it to you. Oh please,

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<v Speaker 2>My twenty eight year old female So she's twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>year old female. Boyfriend who's twenty nine year old male?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, So she's twenty eight, she's a woman, he's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy correct okay of two years, will not stop speaking

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<v Speaker 2>in a fake Italian American act and keeps making up

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<v Speaker 2>foreign words. The ambientation, so you're gonna find Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>to preface this, I love my boyfriend and he is

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<v Speaker 2>super sweet, nice, smart guy that I feel lucky to have,

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<v Speaker 2>but his behavior lately is freaking me out and makes

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<v Speaker 2>me worried for the future. Oh yeah, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>also say this is old. This is not a new

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<v Speaker 2>post about something that It's ridiculous. It keeps coming into

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<v Speaker 2>my head all the time, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You just think about this. This is something that's like

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<v Speaker 3>an earworm from read.

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<v Speaker 2>It pops into my head. So to continue, My boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>loves movies, especially mob movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with them.

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<v Speaker 2>He has all of the Sopranos DVDs at his place

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm pretty sure he still watches them that way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, obviously, you can watch and enjoy whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's open like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But last week he saw the Irishman with some friends

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<v Speaker 2>and since then he will not stop talking in like

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<v Speaker 2>a fake stereotypical mobster accent. We were in an uber

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<v Speaker 2>the other night after going out to dinner, and admittedly

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<v Speaker 2>the driver was going a little fast, but my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>kept muttering things like who's this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Eh?

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<v Speaker 2>They learn not don over here and shouting ho as

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<v Speaker 2>we took corners. He would not shut up, and even

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<v Speaker 2>gave the driver a one star review, saying it was

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<v Speaker 2>about respect. Everyone has their quirks. I get it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can be what makes someone special. At first, it

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<v Speaker 2>was even kind of cute, funny, but I just can't

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<v Speaker 2>really understand this shift all of a sudden. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a week and he continues to make asides in this voice,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he gets drunk he speaks and made up

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<v Speaker 2>Italian like. We were having dessert at my sister's and

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<v Speaker 2>he came up to me and said, hey, Ma, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to get home and hit the draupini. I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>designated driver. I don't drink. So I asked him why

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to leave, and what a draupinie is. His

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<v Speaker 2>response was, you know, like a shower. Draupini is not

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<v Speaker 2>a word in any language. He also never called me

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<v Speaker 2>Ma before ever, and now he does it almost all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I feel crazy, like is this going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a permanent feature of his personality?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I know this sounds incredibly stupid compared to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other serious issues on here, but I am really

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<v Speaker 2>just nervous about what this means. About his personality slash

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<v Speaker 2>mental health. He really is a sweet, loving guy with

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful family and we have a lot in common.

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<v Speaker 2>But just like, I don't even know how to begin

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<v Speaker 2>to approach this. I want to tell him off and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, why do you keep doing this voice? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you please stop? We don't live together, so thankfully it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a constant thing, but like what if it did?

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<v Speaker 2>What if we did, and what if it was? You

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<v Speaker 2>just deal with when it's someone you love.

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<v Speaker 1>Edit.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to add that he's not Italian at

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<v Speaker 2>all either, So I'm also worried people will get offended

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<v Speaker 2>when we're out or something. So that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>That is very ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I the ahole.

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<v Speaker 3>Post rent free in your head?

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<v Speaker 2>As they say all the time, I always want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to take a shower. I want to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the drapini, you know, so just say it into

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<v Speaker 2>the empty hallway and go about my business.

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<v Speaker 3>So could I get away with this? Because this sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what happens, to see where this goes, huh.

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<v Speaker 3>I want the update from their girlfriend of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he stopped doing it after he got beaten up. By

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of Italians in Philadelphia. We were there for

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<v Speaker 3>a gaming.

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<v Speaker 2>P didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that is great. I know. Well if you

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<v Speaker 3>got a second, I got something for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay. Imagine a frontman for a band. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>now the same person though, the same front man. They've

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<v Speaker 3>never performed live before. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know everyone has to perform.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone the first time, right, Yeah. And they've never recorded

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<v Speaker 3>even a single song before, okay. And all they really

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<v Speaker 3>have is a dream. They're a front man with a dream,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they reach for that dream and they decide

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<v Speaker 3>to build themselves a crime Ledder to the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is ridiculous crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 3>heists and cons. It's Ahlways ninety, motor free and ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth Ar. Okay, this dude's name was Rob and okay, wait, no,

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<v Speaker 3>first we got to get through Rob. That is a

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<v Speaker 3>capital R and a capital R followed by a lowercase

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<v Speaker 3>O and then a B and another B. Rob middle

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<v Speaker 3>name Tall, But wait, that's not just tall like you

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<v Speaker 3>might imagine. That's a capital T and a lowercase A

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<v Speaker 3>followed by five capital l'say. Yeah, it's like he knew

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<v Speaker 3>he'd need to keep a couple l's handy for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of his life. Oh god, I hadn't last name university.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Tall University.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's university for like you feel like a

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<v Speaker 3>mashup where it's like, Okay, your first name is the

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<v Speaker 3>street you lived on, the last name is a place

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<v Speaker 3>you're least likely to be found. The reason I bring

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<v Speaker 3>him up this Rob Tall University. He once launched a

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<v Speaker 3>multi million dollar scam to become a rock star and

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<v Speaker 3>it worked. Okay, yeah, well until it did not work.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's why we're talking about him today. But God,

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<v Speaker 3>bless God, bless job blessed is brought up now before

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<v Speaker 3>we dive into today's dish of criminal deliciousness. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard of Sarah Howe?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I Okay, this is not somebody I knew. Sarah Howe.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a dame, was ahead of her time. She

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<v Speaker 3>once had her own bank. It was called the Ladies

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<v Speaker 3>Deposit Company.

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<v Speaker 2>Never heard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a big deal because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>bank for unmarried women's huge and that was necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm imagining this is in the olden times.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eighteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is when women didn't have any guaranteed property

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<v Speaker 3>rights right right, or secured financial rights. It's just basically

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<v Speaker 3>the Jane Austen days but America. So Sarah how she

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<v Speaker 3>has his bank for ladies, and she told everyone it

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<v Speaker 3>was a Quaker charity. You know, it's like something for

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<v Speaker 3>these those who are less fortunate, you know, in this time, women's.

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<v Speaker 2>The lady Bank. It just makes me think of when

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<v Speaker 2>they they gender products, like you know, there'll be like

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<v Speaker 2>a toolkit that you can get. The pink one is

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<v Speaker 2>like fourteen dollars in the blue one stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, little pink screwed, little pink camera, a little

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<v Speaker 3>little pink.

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<v Speaker 2>Ratchet, pink ladybank.

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<v Speaker 3>So this this pink Lady Bank, right, she's running for

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<v Speaker 3>the less fortunate women. There was something else about this bank.

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<v Speaker 3>Her Bank for single ladies offered women something that you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get at other banks. I returned she in the

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood eight percent. Oh that's eight percent per month. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>a surprise, surprise, there was no Quaker charity. There were

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<v Speaker 3>no eight percent returns on the investment. And the heck,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no bank it was all a scam, and

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<v Speaker 3>twelve hundred people fell victimed. Old Sarah howse yep, and

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<v Speaker 3>she camed people out of about five hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>now eighteen seventy eight that would be fifteen million dollars today.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. Now it took two years for her scam

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<v Speaker 3>to go pup, and eighteen eighty a local paper broke

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<v Speaker 3>a story. Sarah how was promptly busted, tried, convicted. She

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<v Speaker 3>did three years in the big house, and then she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I got out, I'm free, I'm ready to start a

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<v Speaker 3>new life. I think I'm gonna go immediately back to criming.

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<v Speaker 3>So she went and became a fortune teller, and she

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<v Speaker 3>managed to continue to fleece the sheep until she was

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<v Speaker 3>put in the dirt. Now she was a mere amateur

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<v Speaker 3>compared to the man who would come to be the

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<v Speaker 3>name associated with these types of crimes. Oh, Charles Ponds, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know anything about his deal? Why we call

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<v Speaker 3>the Ponzi with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah, In the.

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen twenties, dude was running. He's a Boston based con man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he had he'd been telling his investors, right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>double your money right, just give me ninety days, give

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<v Speaker 3>me your money, and I'm gonna come back to you

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<v Speaker 3>with a bunch more. And they're like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>about that, and he's like, yeah, just trust me, Like well,

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<v Speaker 3>what am I investing in? He's like, okay. Turns out

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<v Speaker 3>if you take international postal stamps, you can buy these

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<v Speaker 3>and then redeem thement. He came up with this abstract

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<v Speaker 3>like financial come up based on international postage stamps. So

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, oh, okay, He's like, just give me

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of time now. In seven months time,

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<v Speaker 3>This dude, like, I'm just blown away how much he

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<v Speaker 3>did in seven months time without the internet, without like

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to get around quickly. He's on like horses

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<v Speaker 3>and carriage and cars and stuff, right, like old old

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<v Speaker 3>school cars. So this Ponzi scheme that he'd done, this

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<v Speaker 3>is how it works. Basically, it's a simple one two three.

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<v Speaker 3>So one Ponzi would promise that he could double his investors' money,

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<v Speaker 3>so we covered that, and then his claim would in

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<v Speaker 3>tract the first round of investors. Right now, he's got

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<v Speaker 3>some investors, he takes their money. He then uses this

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<v Speaker 3>money from the second round of investors to pay back

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<v Speaker 3>the first round of investors, right, and then word spreads it.

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<v Speaker 3>The first people got their money back. Then this more

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<v Speaker 3>people come in with that third round and fourth round,

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<v Speaker 3>he pays off the second round of investors. By this time,

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<v Speaker 3>the fifth round is a huge group of people ready

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<v Speaker 3>to give their money up, and there's more of them

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<v Speaker 3>than there are original investors to pay off. So you

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<v Speaker 3>have like a float time, right, so to quote my

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<v Speaker 3>man Louis Anderson from coming to America, and that's when

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<v Speaker 3>the big bucks start rolling in. So Charles Ponzi's pyramid

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<v Speaker 3>scheme noted him eight million dollars in seven months, and

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<v Speaker 3>then in those days, that's in those days that would

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<v Speaker 3>be worth one hundred and twenty million dollars today. In

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<v Speaker 3>seven months he did it like boom, boom boom. People

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<v Speaker 3>are like, oh, they were throwing their money at him,

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<v Speaker 3>just like yeah, so now to vacuum up that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of cash. He took in thirty thousand investors. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>many people came to him ready to be Connedah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So eventually he gets cosbusted and then Ponzi gets sentenced

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<v Speaker 3>to a decade behind bars. And then we gave his name

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<v Speaker 3>to the scheme so everyone to remember it, right brob

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<v Speaker 3>taw University. He's like, you know, I can make that

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<v Speaker 3>old school scammer really have one of them ether sip

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<v Speaker 3>and idiot grins, because I'm gonna do what your boy

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<v Speaker 3>Willie Sutton does. He decides to go where the money is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, I'm not gonna one and in a time

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<v Speaker 3>in it with just all these individual people, he goes

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<v Speaker 3>right to the banks because I'm going to go scam

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<v Speaker 3>the banks. Oh okay, yeah, Well his dream was to

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<v Speaker 3>be a rock star, so he thought to himself, why

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<v Speaker 3>not get the banks to invest in my dream?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a new so he was dude was born

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Malwinny. So you can see why he changed his name, right, MAWINNI.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little but tough to be a rock star,

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Malwinnie.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, if he would have been dedicated to it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about the attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, but it's just saying. You can hear why

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<v Speaker 3>he might have been teased as a kid, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm going to do is change my

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<v Speaker 3>name from Bob Malweeney. So Bob moy exactly. I'm just saying, so, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>was this out of Anaheim, California? So cowboy, and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know much about his childhood, so I'm just going

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<v Speaker 3>to skip ahead to his prefam days.

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<v Speaker 2>Say he was born in Disneyland. What year was he

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<v Speaker 2>born born?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Here was he born?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see nineteen eighty.

0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.040
<v Speaker 2>He was born in nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, people were born in ninteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in my mind I thought he was like

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<v Speaker 2>born in the sixties. What's wrong? I thought this was

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<v Speaker 2>an old story.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, this is a new one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. So by the time Homie is thirty years old,

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<v Speaker 3>he was on top of the world. Right, he'd become

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<v Speaker 3>a real life rock star. He was the front man

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<v Speaker 3>for the hard rock band Lights Over Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>If they heard of Lights Over Paris, yeah, I followed

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<v Speaker 2>them on tour three years. Lights Over Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>Slop Lopp, Right, it's like I Hop but lops.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a spin off of Bombs over Bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they were at LA based bands their fans called them.

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<v Speaker 3>If they had fans, they would have called them. But

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<v Speaker 3>so our dude, Rob Tall University. He really wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be a rockstar, right, so he's like, oh, I'm going,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna become the American Liam Gallagher, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to do that with just way less talent.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what they sound like, Zarin.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, imagine like I had to listen to a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of the songs the research for this, and like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just say, imagine like the most vanilla, emptied out

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<v Speaker 3>pop song you could imagine like if you took Justin

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<v Speaker 3>Timberlake's producer and saying, Okay, take everything out of this,

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<v Speaker 3>just leave the music, but take all the out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I got your son and then you hit that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is. It's like a track of like

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<v Speaker 3>all the same beats, all the same sounds, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing there interesting. It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Light over Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna play some later so you can just

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<v Speaker 3>have your mind blown to I can't wait. Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get into the lyrics and the music, all of it,

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<v Speaker 3>will you baby? Saying to yourself, Saren, how did this

0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.120
<v Speaker 3>less talented Liam Gallagher want to be? Who? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>We decided to cut a bunch of banks in, divesting

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<v Speaker 3>in his dream of being America's next top superstar, become

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that we're talking about today. If the music

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<v Speaker 3>is this.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad, yeah, I am asking myself far.

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<v Speaker 3>Great question, Elizabeth, really is and thank you for asking

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<v Speaker 3>the answer. A highly focused Ponzi scheme, Elizabeth. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we're talking about my man, Rob Tall University.

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<v Speaker 3>Five l's. He decided he'd do business with JP Morgan, Chase,

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<v Speaker 3>Bank of America Zions it's a small socale bank, and

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<v Speaker 3>Comerica all for La branches right now. He didn't just

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<v Speaker 3>walk in, slap down his bands demo and say I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like eight million dollars please. No, that's but that's actually

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<v Speaker 3>not far off from what he did do so, according

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<v Speaker 3>to the US Attorney's Office, in August two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Tall University strolled into a branch of Comerica in La.

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<v Speaker 3>He slapped down paperwork from the investment firm Charles Schwab,

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<v Speaker 3>and he asked for three million dollars. The bank, however,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't laugh in his face like they would have laughed

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<v Speaker 3>in my face. But they did not laugh and robbed

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<v Speaker 3>all they were laughed in most people's face. They didn't

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<v Speaker 3>laugh in his face. Do you know why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was wearing eyeliner.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the paperwork he slapped down stated that the frontman

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<v Speaker 3>had seven million dollars in an investment account. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the account statement also reported that the frontman had

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<v Speaker 3>five million in net annual income, and it claimed that

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<v Speaker 3>his personal assets totaled seven and a half million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>And those numbers made some sense because in his personal

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<v Speaker 3>asset was listed a recording studio. He said that he was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, worth twelve million dollars in annual income. So

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<v Speaker 3>the bank was like, oh, of course, now, of course

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<v Speaker 3>all this paperwork was faked. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, why didn't they want a digital.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well what happens? Yeah exactly, like like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do some more corroborating evidence. Yeah, well, the bank decided,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, let's do our due diligence. They weren't just

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<v Speaker 3>willing to take the Charles schwab faked piece of paper

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<v Speaker 3>with like the white out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you told me they were, I was

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<v Speaker 2>about to get heading over to my printer, like I

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<v Speaker 2>got the ink a little bit of dabblin.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as you know, banks prefer the people's start businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>That make sense. If they were they're gonna dabble in

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<v Speaker 3>the Business World. They're like, do restaurants do like a

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<v Speaker 3>leather goods store? Just something that we know how this works.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be Jimmy Dablin's about it exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But like rock Star, how do we dabble in that?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't even know that one? Where do we put

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<v Speaker 3>the double in the dabble? Right? So Rob Tall University's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I got you covered. Don't worry. My studio will be

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<v Speaker 3>collateral for this money. Remember twelve million dollars that can

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<v Speaker 3>be yours. You could own this studio. They're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly he's e F. Hutton. They're like, we're listening. You

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<v Speaker 3>got my ear. But it wasn't enough because, as you

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out, their bankers, they wanted corroboration. They needed more

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<v Speaker 3>paperwork proof of his income. Mob Tall University is like,

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<v Speaker 3>no problemo, I got this brother. So he goes back

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<v Speaker 3>and he fakes up some more paperwork, comes back in.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, there you go with that due. They're like

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<v Speaker 3>that's good. I mean this is good. More paperwork, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna need like tax returns. He's like, ah, no problem,

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<v Speaker 3>goes back, fakes those up, shows up with tax returns

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<v Speaker 3>to bankers are like, okay, this is all looking good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you have all the right numbers here. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got spreadsheets, he's got bank statements, whatever else. He overdid

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<v Speaker 3>it exactly. So they're into the like the paper. They

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<v Speaker 3>love it. They're like getting the giddy off it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're still undecided because they're bankers. Right. So he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>come buy the studio. They're like, okay, we'll do that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you need to see with your own I

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<v Speaker 3>see what you would get in collateral. They're like, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>due diligence, right right. One problem, Rob Tall University has

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<v Speaker 3>no studio. So no, he doesn't even own one. He doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't work at one. He's not making do like

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<v Speaker 3>a sit compl Oh yeah this is my studio. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no no. But his no problema was his attitude, because

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<v Speaker 3>what did he have. He had friends, Elizabeth, he had

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<v Speaker 3>friends and a dream exactly, a two fisted fighter. This

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<v Speaker 3>guy friends in one hand, dream in the other knocking

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<v Speaker 3>out fate. So he goes and he borrows his friend's

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<v Speaker 3>studio for this bank tour. He's like, hey, guys, you

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<v Speaker 3>want to get in on my criminal conspiracy. They're like

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<v Speaker 3>bet So. The studio was in Burbank, California. It was

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<v Speaker 3>owned by a pair of brothers, now not brothers, like

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<v Speaker 3>actual brothers. Yeah, the Salazar brothers actually okay, yeah, Jason

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<v Speaker 3>and Matthew. Jason was the younger one to twenty eight.

0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Matthew was the older one twenty nine. Thus it was

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<v Speaker 3>called matt Salazar Recording Productions. Yeah. They're also part owners

0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.960
<v Speaker 3>in the La Sound Collective if you were an underground

0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.199
<v Speaker 3>sound collector. Yeah. Well, anyway, the day for the studio

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<v Speaker 3>tour comes Rob Tall University. He's like, come on down.

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<v Speaker 3>He meets the bankers at his studio. He was not

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<v Speaker 3>just a want to be rock star. He was also

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<v Speaker 3>a generous host. Yeah. So he was like, oh exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, let me show you around. So he goes

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<v Speaker 3>gives them the deluxe tour of the studio. He showed

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<v Speaker 3>them the framed records, the soundboard, the mixing and mastering areas,

0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.080
<v Speaker 3>the mic stands, whatever there was to show them. Look,

0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.719
<v Speaker 3>here's our favorite couch. You know, you can give them

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<v Speaker 3>the whole tour, right So Rob Tall University also casually

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<v Speaker 3>bragging that he quoted a successful ghostwriter for various artists

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, various artists, just name some probably them.

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<v Speaker 3>So he also confided that running this recording studio and

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<v Speaker 3>ghost writing for rock stars, these are just my sidelines.

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<v Speaker 3>My real passion, My true passion is writing my own songs.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, oh, you're one of those gray so

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<v Speaker 3>and I imagine the bankers are like, please don't play

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<v Speaker 3>your demo, Please don't write you a demo. But he's like, okay.

0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 3>But their business types, so they're also equally business gracious.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, yes, what else do you have? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have more paperwork to show us? Because studio looks great,

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<v Speaker 3>this is really a studio. We see that. They're like okay,

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<v Speaker 3>They go back to their office. He fills out the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the application. They give him three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Weren't they concerned as it was called Mike Selazar Studios.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they just overlooked that. They thought maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>a stage name. I don't know what they thought, but

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<v Speaker 3>there they were cool with it, and they're like, yeah,

0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.880
<v Speaker 3>this is his studio. He says, he walked us around,

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<v Speaker 3>he showed me the board, the key, Yeah exactly. He

0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.040
<v Speaker 3>knew where to park. So then he gets his three

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars from the bank, and he's like, okay, that

0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that went really well. So what is he going to do? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I like to think after a moment rob Tall University,

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<v Speaker 3>he gazed across the Burbank parking lot outside of his

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Strip Mall Music studio and he said in that like

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.960
<v Speaker 3>bygone tone of the old pioneers, like you know, staring

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<v Speaker 3>at the middle distance of the horizon. Ye know, I

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 3>was just like, I see a future here, because his

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.320
<v Speaker 3>dream had become true, Like he realized he'd found a

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<v Speaker 3>place where one day I can raise up my own

0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 3>crop of rock stars and roadies. And so he decided

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<v Speaker 3>exactly but you know, obviously it's gonna be less you know,

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<v Speaker 3>dramatic as I rendered it. But from court documents we

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<v Speaker 3>do know that he said that he wanted the bank's

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<v Speaker 3>money to expand his business, to make new purchases, and

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<v Speaker 3>to finish construction on a new recording room in the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was what sounded perfectly reasonable to the bank examiners,

0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.959
<v Speaker 3>and thus they gave him the three million dollars. So

0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.960
<v Speaker 3>they're like, boom, here these are three million dollars loan, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>And now now he is about to start becoming a

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<v Speaker 3>real rockstar because he got rockstock. Cat's right, Let's take

0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:59.640
<v Speaker 3>a little break and then I'll tell you how he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to blow through this money and get himself like

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<v Speaker 3>a rock star into billboards, you know, top charts. What. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So now my man, Rob Tall University is

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<v Speaker 3>a real funded, almost want to be rockstar guy.

0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a three millionaire exactly the big time.

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 3>I told you the real big money's gonna come rolling in.

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Now he's got the big bucks. So that first loan

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 3>application that went well, right, Sure he walked him through

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the fake studio or actually the real studio. But I'm

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.840
<v Speaker 3>pretending to be his So Rob Tall University, what's he

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.639
<v Speaker 3>gonna do now, He's like, I should do that again.

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 3>So he goes and does it again, and then again

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 3>and then again. He went to work scamming banks like

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 3>he ironically was far better at scamming banks than being

0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a rockstard. He should have been a bank scammer. That's

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:00.959
<v Speaker 3>what he should have turned pro at.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like he was.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can if you get like

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.639
<v Speaker 3>groupies for being a bank scammer, but anyway, if he could,

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think what it does to jail.

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 2>He'll have all those gals who like write in the

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:12.359
<v Speaker 2>oh good point.

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we tend to get some journalists to interview him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the rock Star cell Block Rockstar.

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<v Speaker 3>So Raptail University. He gets the initial three million from Comerica,

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<v Speaker 3>right then he went and scams in additional seven hundred

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 3>and fifty thousand from Bank of America, then a cool

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 3>half million from Zion's Bank, and lastly there was a

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 3>sizeable sum he peeled two point four million from JP

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Morgan Chase. Wow. Yeah, so that's about seven million in total. Okay,

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.200
<v Speaker 3>so then he apparently re upped on a couple of

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 3>those loans. He pulled in a couple more and brings

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 3>it up to eleven million in total.

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.959
<v Speaker 3>His eventual lawyer Al Jaron would later argue, quote, all

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, he was trapped in a situation that

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 3>got out of his control. Yeah, oh yeah, I bet

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:50.440
<v Speaker 3>it did.

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I just like, eleven million dollars with nothing behind it

0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:55.439
<v Speaker 2>is just nuts.

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, I like the It's like this just got

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.640
<v Speaker 3>out of control. What's the internet name? Well, well, well

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.920
<v Speaker 3>it's isn't my old friend the consequences of my actions.

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.400
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's him and out.

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Of control, like at any point he could have Yeah.

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, he's a victim of himself, Elizabeth.

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Look what I did hard for him. It's hard to

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>be Rob Tall.

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Why are these banks doing this to me? So before

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 3>the legal reality set ind of what he had done,

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 3>robbed all University went to work being a rock star.

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:24.919
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we want to talk about, right, So

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 3>how did he start blowing this money? Well, you know, well,

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.199
<v Speaker 3>first I need to just show you what he looks like.

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 3>I haven't really done a good job. This is him

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.439
<v Speaker 3>with the world's most interesting man. Now that's not the

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 3>actual world's most interesting man. That's a cardboard cutout of

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 3>the world's most interesting man heavens. So yeah, and he's

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 3>not a very tall guy. And you know, nothing wrong

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:47.639
<v Speaker 3>with you know, him not being tall. I was a

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:49.479
<v Speaker 3>short kid. I grew late I have you know, But

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 3>my man, if you're gonna name yourself Rob Tall and

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 3>then and call attention to that, and then put in

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 3>five capital l's to make sure you don't miss it anyway. Whatever,

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.159
<v Speaker 3>So old Rob not exactly Tall University, his suddenly stacked

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 3>bank account right, He's just things get ridiculous for him.

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 3>So he rents an apartment in a downtown LA he

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 3>guess he finds his luxury condo building. He gets a

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 3>place on the thirty fifth story. He's like, you know,

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 3>why would he do this? Because that's a rock star.

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 3>So later on he would then move places because that

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 3>wasn't I guess rockstar enough. So he went up to

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the Hollywood Hills, right, because that's a rock star. And

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 3>his rent was ten five hundred dollars a month. What

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 3>does he care?

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not his money, that's true.

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 3>So Rob would also he loved to take trips. He

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 3>was a guy I like to bounce around the world,

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 3>because why, that's what rock stars do.

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 2>He's a citizen of the world exactly.

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 3>You go down the Caribbean, you go to South America

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 3>to be able.

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<v Speaker 2>To put all them flags in his Instagram.

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 3>He had the big map, yeah, and he wanted all

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the pens so well, I would imagine that he would

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 3>tell himself, I'm going to go out there and like

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 3>find my fans, like the ones in South America Europe

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 3>that are waiting for me. But I can't even get

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 3>myself through that sentence So anyway, Rob, he was like

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 3>the kind of guy who liked, you know, all the

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>beautiful and expensive things in life. Right. I don't know

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:01.360
<v Speaker 3>if he did that because he liked rocks. They thought

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 3>that was what rock stars did and he just needed

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to be in the glamorous places or he him stuff

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 3>liked it, but he spent his money that way, or

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 3>rather the bank's money that right. So after spending a

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 3>decade or so dreaming of becoming the next Blink one

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 3>eighty two, because that was his inspiration.

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're kidding.

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the dude was like, honey, he'd been down there

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 3>in so Kyle dreaming of being like, you know whatever,

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Travis and uh, Tom and Mark right one of the

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 3>guy that's all yeah, exactly, yeah, I think that's the

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Tom one. Anyway, Tom DeLong. Here we go. Okay, So

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 3>this dude's a He's like, okay, I want to be

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 3>a rock star. He spending ten years trying to do it.

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 3>He can't do it, so he turns to crime. Right now,

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 3>now he's got the money, he's blowing stuff like as

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 3>fast as he can. So he's like, oh, what else

0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 3>do I need? Like I got my rock star house.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I needed tour bus.

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Did he have other people in his band?

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we'll get to that, okay, So it's like, okay,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, that's why I haven't mentioned them his band,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So his tour he gets the tour bus right, seven

0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>hundred fifty thousand dollars. This is not a normal tour bus.

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 3>You not for all roped a university. Oh yeah, like

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 3>a full this dumb bunny's tour bus. It was so

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 3>tricked out that Limo Digest wrote about it. Okay, Limo Digest,

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>it sounds like a magazine someone to write for, like

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 3>in a rom com in the nineties. I feel right

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 3>for Limo Digest. That's why I'm here on that.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>It's like a Hallmark movie.

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes exactly. It makes no sense, but writing.

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>For Limo Digest and I have to go back home,

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, my parents. If he wanted to be like

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Blinkoin eighty two, he should have gotten an old.

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Van, oh totally and played the music and all the stuff.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 3>If he should have done the other part of the

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>rock star. So anyway, Limo Digest as a feature story

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 3>on dudes Bus, the new bus for rock band lights.

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Over Paris, and it's also fake.

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 3>The dude had taste, not good taste, but he had taste, right,

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 3>So I went and I looked. The bus was designed

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 3>to look like an airplane, right, And on the side

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.479
<v Speaker 3>of the bus he had he had these exterior awnings

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 3>which when you expanded them to like airplane wings. Inside

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 3>the bus he had all these little airplane like like

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 3>fake wings like for the knobs of the faucet or whatever. Right, yeah,

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>everything exactly so luxurious. Master suite, custom built master bedroom.

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Suite also has a recording studio in it with Privacy Glass.

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I watched a YouTube video from the makers of this

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 3>tour bus because they were so proud of the work

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 3>that they did, and it's still love. You can't find

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff from this guy, but you can

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.719
<v Speaker 3>find the tour bus. So he actually had like a

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 3>there's a wine cooler in there. There was a custom

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 3>red iron granite countertops. The forward lounge for his bandmates.

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 3>It boasted a three D Sony TV, which was a

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 3>big deal for the time. There were also bunks for

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 3>his quote bandmates which had their own TVs and game systems.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 3>On the side of the bus, it was painted the

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 3>words lights over Paris. You know that way people would

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 3>know who the hell was inside the finish bus. It

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 3>looks like, you know, I don't know, like if hot

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 3>topic in Miami. Right was handing out the company's like

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>first romance novel and it was like complete with Neon

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 3>cover fonts. And someone was like, you know what, this

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 3>would make a great tour bus. That's what it looks like. Well,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll just show you.

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're show and tell what. Oh and if if

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 2>that is not what I was picturing?

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and this is what you would see if

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 3>you happen to be stuck behind this bust in traffic. Yeah,

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, they got He's got a picture of himself

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and a bunch of the band mates. My fingers are

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>in the air cone like it's a giant cone that

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 3>it's supposed to look like a ship like a plane, like

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 3>like the concord or something. It's super extended blast out

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 3>front and on the back. It looks like it should

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 3>be like we are the band cruise ship magicians. It's amazing, right,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know who owns this now, I actually

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 3>do not know. I could not find that, but uh,

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>but you may be wondering, right, Okay, so he's got

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 3>this tour bust for like being Abbert Adam Lambert's opening

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>act right, and he's like, everything's set, but he does

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 3>he have a band, like who are the cruise ship? Right? Well,

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth as you find it out when I think it's right.

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 3>If you have a bus looks like an airplane, that's

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 3>not what you need to become led Zeppelin. You need

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 3>other things. So Rob Tall University is like, well, I'm

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>just gonna get me a so he gets a bunch

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 3>of session musicians.

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>The he got the tour bus first, yeah, and then

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>got the band.

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 3>So it gets like the session musicians and then he

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 3>like has them like, oh, man write the album with him. Man,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 3>he writes all these songs right, and then he goes

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 3>out and he's like, oh, I'm gonna I need to

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 3>do videos, right, So he's making videos before the album's

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 3>come out. So he's making videos. And so there was

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 3>one of these Lights of her Paris music videos. Well,

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 3>there was a guy who his name is Brian Knight.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 3>He went on twenty twenty to talk about this, like

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 3>when he was trying to describe his experience on a

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Lights of Her Paris video set, and I quote it

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was crazy. There was a lot happening. There was a

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of booze and a lot of champagne, and the

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>hotel sweet ended up getting trash at the end of

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>the trip. So that's all just rock star stuff, right mostly,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 3>But then he goes into remember this is the video

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 3>of Vixen era in hip hop. This is early two

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 3>thousand oh right, So back to Brian King, I have

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 3>no idea where all the women came from. He'd get

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 3>a woman to sit in the middle of the buffet

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>table and hand people sushi off of her body. Oh god,

0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>now why would he have a naked woman with a

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 3>buffet on her belly? That's what rock stars of course,

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 3>or maybe they don't because they actually.

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Have class off of someone's gross skin.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you maybe don't. My god, completely raw fish off

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 3>of warm skin. It's just like, this is not what

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>glitter on it. You got the cool side cool and

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>that warm side warm. Anyway, you can't have a music

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 3>video without a song, and you've asked what they sound like, right, Well,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>some of the bank's money went into the studio time right.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 3>He paid for session musicians to record his Lights Over

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Paris album. He hired a lush string section. It was

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 3>like he was doing his best impression of Charlie Parker

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>with strings. He's like, I need strings, Like, bro, you're

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>not Charlie Parker. He's like, no, my cheesy, forgettable pop

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 3>songs needs stringing. So his whole bands they said session musicians.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 3>So there's no band yet, but his store bought band.

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 3>They do record albums and uh.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>No albums.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, songs for the album. Should say yeah, songs for

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the album, right, but I like, is that one of

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 3>the songs? Like the first single, I guess it was

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 3>called turn on Off the Lights. Now, the band's name

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 3>is Lights Over.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Parents, Lights Over Pairs? Are you okay? Do you need

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>to talk to someone?

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the fake rock star here.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Everyone check on Lights Over.

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 3>They're sending mixed signals turn off the Lights. So for

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 3>their EP, turn Off the Lights, the first that they named.

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>The lights or just something totally different.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Not just a song, they're they're single. They also named

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the EP turn Off the Light Lights a genius yes,

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.479
<v Speaker 3>So that the band decides to make the visually stunning

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 3>music video. They're like, we need to get, you know,

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>the best stuffs. They hire actors, actresses and the main

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 3>bikini clad actress Olivia Hart was suspicious of where this

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 3>talentless band and this talentless singer got the money to

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 3>hire someone like her. So she went up and just

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 3>asked the dude. She's like, how do you have the

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>mighty to do? Yeah, what's going on here? Robb Tall University.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 3>He thought for a moment, ran his fingers through his air,

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, yeah, well my grandpa died. He's like,

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>I took his money and I dropped six Yeah. Whatever.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Wait, and so she's walking around at a bikini. It

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>seems so outlandish to me when I think about how

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>videos used to be, Like, I just can't imagine a

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>band doing like a bikini babe video.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, except this one. I did my dude intelligence, Elizabeth.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I watched the video. I listened to the songs. Here's

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 3>a sample lyric. I have a sample lyric for you already.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>This is Ah. I met a girl. She's super cool.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I love the city lights, she loves the pool. I'm

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>signing autographs she writes at school. She's taking photographs that

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>make me want to drool. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know,

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm into you. I did no music for that. It

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>doesn't need the music, the poetry, it's right there.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I momentarily lost the ability to speak. Wait, she's writing

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>at school exactly.

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>There's so many red flags. So I watched the videos

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 3>that school. So the video features him walking around a

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 3>rental La mansion as his girl is checking her makeup

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 3>on a floaty in the pool. She also reads a

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 3>book because you know that was in the lyrics, so

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>she's there's a shot, take a book. And the whole

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.959
<v Speaker 3>thing is about as the brainless the music video as

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 3>you've ever seen. It's as bad and as dumb as

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 3>the song. It's like pop punky, No, it's more like

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 3>justin Timberlake punk. You keep going, that's what it sounds

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 3>like to me, Like, but if you just take everything

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 3>out of that, you know, if you just dial down,

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 3>all the things that are talent or music are good

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>and just do you leave the stuff that is beat

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 3>and his string in his voice the holy ground exactly.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 3>So when the dude in this music video, I was

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 3>like sitting there watching it, I'm like, I'd be willing

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 3>to bet shoot if I just like randomly thought of

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 3>an idea, it'd be better than this. So I was like, okay,

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 3>if you took like a camera, turned it on, put

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 3>it in like a red wagon, and just drug it

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 3>down the street. That would be a better music video

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>than this. If you took the camera, turned it on

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 3>and just kicked it down a flight of stairs, that

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 3>would be a better music video than this. But whatever,

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the guy didn't do any of that because he's got

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars. He just threw millions of dollars at

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 3>the screen, right, So, now, chasing good money with bad,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>the front man decided to guide his pretend band of

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>session musicians onto the pages of Billboard Magazine. His plan

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 3>works on the band's website. They're the band's website. Their

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>sound is described as quite a mix of melodic rock

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 3>hooks with pulsating dance rhythms and a taste of hip hop.

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that taste of hip hop? I don't even know

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>that anyway, though, this mix works and Billboard names them

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>on their heat Seekers Albums chart stop it. Yeah, they

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>make it to number six and they were officially an

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 3>up and coming band.

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>So this just tells me that you can never trust anything.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Billboard Magazine ever says.

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, ever, they pretty much stepped in it on that.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they did, so, Now, well, is it. But they

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>are at officially an up and coming band, and Billboard

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 3>has basically proved and as you point out that they

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:05.239
<v Speaker 3>have no validity, zero credibility now and uh, well, you know,

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 3>what are you going to do with Rob Tall University

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 3>now that he is an actual rock star and he

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 3>can point to himself in the pages of Billboard magazine.

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, is he going to take the magazine to

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the banks.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.439
<v Speaker 3>He's going to go bigger. It's the year twenty ten,

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 3>and so things are changing, the cultures shifting. He's like,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I got to get ahead of things. So to keep

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 3>momentum going for his entirely pretend band, the frontman went

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 3>for the biggest gambit yet yet. He said, I need

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 3>to go bigger. I need to get stars involved. Yes, yes,

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.959
<v Speaker 3>So for his next video he ups the star power

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and he hires out the rapper the Game. He asked

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 3>the Game to come over and star in his video

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 3>for his new latest Lights Over Paris Banger. I'm not

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>a gangster.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait no, like hearing the first lyrics set like that

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Not a Just imagine a Seth Green personating an impression

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 3>of Tom Cruise walking up to some girls in a bar.

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 3>That's how the video starts. Well, no, sorry I left

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 3>out apart. First video starts with like a girl's finger

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 3>fingering the buttons of an old school jukebox. Right, she

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 3>seductively presses as a button and the song starts, the

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 3>song that.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to hear, I'm not a.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Gangst It comes out right, and then this, you know,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the pop backbeat drops And when I say drops, imagine

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 3>like a Kleenex landing on a bed of cotton balls.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 3>It just dropped. So now you mentioned the lyrics from

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:30.959
<v Speaker 3>the last song.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got more lyrics for your girl, Thank you.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I need these, alady. Yeah, the lyrics go down in CALLI.

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>The girls drink until they go crazy and smoke until

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 3>they all get dizzy. She told me I could call

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 3>her my baby. None of them rhyme Callie crazy dizzy

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 3>baby rhymes, but whatever slant rhym so he keeps going,

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh good, Yeah she could. She told me I could

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 3>call her my baby, but just for the night. We

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 3>were coasting all the way down to the ocean. And

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>then she slipped something inside my hand. Can you guess

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 3>what she slipped inside his hand?

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth so scared of what baby slipped, the baby's kid

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 2>put in her hands.

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I've got good news for you. I don't know what

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 3>it is. He never says. He's like, who knows, who cares?

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>He was like he was afraid, there's no good way

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to go with No, he's just let me a permission

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>slip for her to go on.

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who knows. And I do not have a

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>bloody knife.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's so many, so many ways I can

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 2>go with this.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Instead he keeps it ring.

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can keep going, I can keep going.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 3>So instead he just sings. And this is what I said.

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a gangster, but I would ride for you,

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>and if it came down to it, I would die

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 3>for you. I'm not a gangster, but I get high

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>with you. I would throw away my whole life for you. Okay. One,

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he understands what a gangster his just

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 3>right off the bat. I'm just gonna take that. Two,

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 3>did he write this is a love song to his

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 3>own ego? Because man, that last line really turn out

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 3>to be prophetic. Yeah, I would ruin my whole life

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. So and also three, this is where the

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 3>song really gets starts to get good. And why by

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>good I mean just not as bad. Right. So this

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 3>is when the rapper of the game shows up. Now

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing the game was like, well, if the check clears.

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking it's like, I will soak this fella.

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Apparently the check clear because Elizabeth, he was there. Yeah,

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>after the break, I will be back to tell you

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 3>all about what the game does on this video shoot.

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that it's gonna bend your brains. Okay, Elizabeth,

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I promised you the game on the set whites Over

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Paris with my man Rob Tall University. Yes, now this

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 3>is gonna be so good. I'm just gonna need you

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 3>to just pretty much just close.

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Your eyes they are closed, and picture it.

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Downtown La, nighttime, the industrial section the arts district.

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 3>You are standing by a generator, drinking coffee with a

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 3>pair of Teamster truck drivers. You're in charge of a

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Rolls Royce, part of the luxury vehicle rental package for

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 3>the music video shoot. You've never heard of the band.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 3>You could care less about the band. You don't even

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>care about this shoot. But when you heard that the

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.240
<v Speaker 3>game would be on the set, that's when you decided

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 3>you would be the one to take this gig. Normally

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 3>you'd send over one of your coworkers for these late

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 3>night independent shoots. But you are a huge fan of

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 3>the game, and ever since he first dropped his EP

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>back in the day on the label of JT the

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Biga Figure, you have been down with the game. Now,

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 3>when he dropped his major label album, The Documentary, you

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 3>thought that album was a masterpiece. You still haven't forgiven

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 3>fifty cent for pushing the game out of docre Is

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Aftermath Records. No, that is wrong.

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I will never forgive him for that.

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 3>But now this video shoot is your chance to finally

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 3>see the game up close personal. Oh yeah, Now at

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 3>the moment, one of the pair of Teamster truck drivers

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>is having a big chest rumble and chuckle. It's the

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 3>spring of twenty eleven and you were all laughing about

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 3>the late night talk show host take on Obama ordering

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the strike that took out Osama bin Laden.

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh, that's funny.

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And kim Old did a weekend at Bernie spoof

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 3>that had been lauden enjoy quote one last day in

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 3>the Sun. It's a weird time in the culture. Anyway.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 3>You see the game as he steps out of his trailer.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 3>It's one of those rental star wagons trailers, the kind

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 3>that they're always on the streets of the valley for

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 3>real movie shoots. Whoever is paying for this music video

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 3>shoot is going all out. I say, hey, babe, this

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 3>young production assistant tells you it's time to bring around

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 3>the Rolls Royce for this part of the shoot. But

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 3>you were already headed over to speak with the game. Yeah,

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>plan to tell him all about how much fifty cent

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 3>was a bum. But yes, you're like, I guess that

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 3>can wait, you think to yourself as you go wandering

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 3>over to the car. You are at work. You can

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 3>always speak with him later. Since you're the one who

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.399
<v Speaker 3>hearing the car around, he's supposed to be in the car,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>so you will have a moment with him no matter what.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 3>So you go walking off on the soaked down streets,

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 3>the ones that are wedded to look the best for

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 3>a music video, and you splash through the puddles of

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 3>neon light, and then you hop in the whip and

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 3>you do your best impression of driving Miss Daisy, and

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 3>you wheel that luxury auto around the late night downtown

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.359
<v Speaker 3>video shoot. And when you get back to the set

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 3>with the car. You hear the video playback booming the song.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>It bounces off the downtown canyon walls. The lyrics you

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>hear are thankfully from the game's portion of the song,

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 3>but they are not good. Oh no, peace to my

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>old girl. Got me a new one. She's so hood,

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 3>she's so me. I love is like a drug and

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 3>we od cuz got me a winner. Charlie Sheen invited

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>us for dinner. Oh y, and we both went in

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 3>her and we both went our separate ways, and Charlie

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 3>had this to say, I'm not a gangsta.

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, someone needs to.

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Go get you. You're all out the window and park

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>the car. Sit there for a moment. You wonder if

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 3>this is really how you want to spend your one

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 3>wild life. You contemplate turning the Rolls Royce back on

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 3>and just driving away, but you have bills to pay,

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 3>and so you're a boss is expecting his car back

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>at the rental place. So instead you tell yourself I'm

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>not a gangstuf. And then you open the door to

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 3>the Rolls Royce, step out and shut the door. You

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>ask a production assistant, where can I find mister lights

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 3>over Paris? Okay?

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm just gonna go take a silk wood shower.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Get that off. You imagine the Charlie sheen of it all.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't. I don't want to.

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 3>At the start of twenty eleven, Rob Tay University is

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>on top of the world. You'd have to look up

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 3>to see him. Yeah. So he's the frontman of a

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 3>fake band. He has a very real custom to her bus.

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 3>He's got a spot on the Billboards chart for up

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 3>and coming new bands. He's got an album that's out there.

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 3>It's an EP. He's a couple of songs, but he's

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 3>got videos and the games in it, and you know

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 3>things are about to go boom for him. But then

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the banks show up and they're like, hey, man, remember

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>when we gave that dude that money? Yeah? Yeah, has

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 3>he paid us back yet? No, I haven't heard from him. Right, Well,

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 3>they had expected their money back. It wasn't a donation, right.

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 3>So the trouble starts with a series of friendly calls.

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Right now, these are not actually calls from Bank of America.

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 3>These are not quotes, but this is how I imagine

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the calls I would have gone.

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 2>This is probably way better.

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so sir, it's Bank of America calling. We keep

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 3>missing you. This is the fourth message we've left. We'd

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 3>like to discuss your repayment schedule for your loans. Please

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 3>call your earliest convenience. You know a couple of days, sir,

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Bank of America calling, so I haven't heard from you.

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Please call back at the earliest convenience. Another week passes

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Bank of America again. Look, man, you have millions of

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 3>dollars of our money and we expect you to pay

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 3>it back. You better call us back. Another week goes by,

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 3>still no hearing nothing from him. Bank of America gets

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 3>back on the phone. Hey man, Bank of America trying

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 3>to dodge us. You think that's gonna work out for you?

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Bank of America is gonna get its money, pal, But

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 3>you know what you go, You run and hide. You

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 3>try to hide from us, because Bank of America is

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 3>gonna find you. Your ass is grass and we are

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 3>the lawnmower. Good day, sir. Now that's just how I imagine.

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 3>That is not what Bank of America said.

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That's their call center script.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 3>That's the vibe though, right. I've never worked in a

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 3>call center, but it seems like that's what they would say. Anyway,

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 3>August twenty eleven rolls around. He's still managing to dodge

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 3>the banks as they're circling on him, going where's our

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars? So the front man eventually does have

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.399
<v Speaker 3>to call the banks back. So what does he say?

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 3>What's he going to tell them about the money and

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 3>his rise to stardom? The investment's going great, guys were

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 3>on the billboards hot seekers album, well, he explained to

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>He calls him up and look, I know I missed

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 3>your guys calls, but I was on the road, man, rockstar,

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I was on tour, you know what it is. And

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.919
<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh yeah, okay, Well, when are we gonna

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 3>get our money? He's like about that, man, I got updates.

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Look okay, So I'm gonna put everything on the table

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>with you, guys. I was in a car wreck. I'm

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 3>on pills now, so things aren't going so well for me.

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm dealing with an incredible amount of pain here, guys.

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.959
<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a pick exactly where's our money? Rob?

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 3>So he's like, look, and by the way, Lizabeth, just

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 3>to keep facts on the table. There was no car accident,

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know where it was on pills. But anyway,

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 3>so the banks are Yeah. So at this point, the

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 3>banks are fully after up. So what does our amateur

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 3>ponzi scammer do next, Well, he keeps reaching for those

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 3>stars and he's running out of time. But in October

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven, Lights Over Paris's booked to play a big

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 3>gig in.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>La Right, Oh, yeah, is this their first gig?

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 3>No, he's playing like small gigs at this point. But

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna play a gig at the Roxy. This would

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 3>be like their first bank gig. Right. It's a club

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 3>up on the Sunset Strip and it's like, you know,

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 3>rock star Legends, so it's a space you want to

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 3>be in. Right. For some reason, I'm thinking he knew

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 3>the banks might know that he was going to be

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 3>there because he's lights Over Paris and he's worried that

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 3>if I go somewhere Ritzman advertised, there's gonna be people

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 3>waiting for me. So what does he do? He sends

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 3>a DJ. He's like, just go hit play on like

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>the laptop. Yes, he sends a DJ to his biggest

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 3>gig yet. And yeah, then.

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Were they playing like were they opening for somebody or no?

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 3>It was his gig, He just you be lights Over Paris.

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>To anyone buy ticket.

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know the deal on that part.

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I have so many questions.

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to call the Rocks. So he gets to

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 3>the gig, the DJ and a process server is there

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 3>to love it with court papers and he's like, are

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 3>you mister a lights Over Parison guys? I know, yeah,

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 3>it says so, but I mean I just said that

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 3>on stage, but I'm not him. It's complicated, Like, well,

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 3>here and they hits him with the papers, right, the

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 3>papers are not from the bank, they're from his landlord.

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 3>He's now being sued because he's months behind darn rent

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 3>as well. He's pretty much blown the cash at this point,

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 3>the millions are gone, right, So what does our man

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>do now? Well, he finally does something smart, finally something

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of. He leaves the country. He gets the

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 3>hell of die.

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Thinking about like if I suddenly had all this money

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>in my head, I'm like, okay, I could pay the electric,

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I could pay water, no problem.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>This cat yeah no, he's he's in MAJORCA, so he's

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 3>not I'm out of here. But then he does the

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:57.919
<v Speaker 3>like another rob Tall University thing. He comes back, He comes,

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 3>He comes back to America for god knows what reason.

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 3>And in February twenty thirteen, he has a flight coming

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 3>in from Buenos Aires and he touches down in Miami

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 3>International Airport. It was an auspicious day for him. It

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 3>was his thirtieth birthday and his life was about to change.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 3>He was a man. Now, No, that's not what it was.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 3>When he walks into Miami International, there's a crowd of

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>folks there to meet him. They it's like a real

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 3>rock star returning home. It's all these people cameras. But no,

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 3>it was a flock of Feds. The Feds are there

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 3>to meet him at the airport. They arrest the front man,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 3>and his rock star dreams were now officially done. Yeah,

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 3>he was in court the very next day to be arraigned.

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 3>And then what does he do. The day after that

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 3>he's bailed out. He goes into a bank and he asks,

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 3>I can do not stop it. He has tried to

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 3>defraud the bank from millions of dollars to pay off

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 3>the banks that he's now in trouble for.

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 3>According to the.

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 2>The day after he gets the day after.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 3>He's arraigned the US Attorney's office, like they like when

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 3>you read the reports, they're just like shocked. At one point,

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 3>they're at quote the day after he pleads guilty, he

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 3>goes into a credit you do Norrange County, California, and

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 3>it does exactly the same crime one more time. That's

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 3>in the credit credit Like, do you guys have the

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 3>same reporting as banks? So I don't know why he

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 3>thinks he can get away with this. He's not good,

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 3>but anyway, whatever, you know, he decides to go for it.

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 3>And uh, he said he wanted to just you know,

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 3>they said give all the money to the banks. He's like, oh,

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to defraud them to pay you guys. It's

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 3>not screw them, right guys. But his lawyer, the guy

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>we already met, al Jaron, he claimed that his client

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 3>was not the one who was at fault, right I

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 3>already told yeah, he said he quote, he knowingly submitted

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 3>false numbers on fraudulent documents, but the banks took them

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 3>at face value. They kept upselling him. So he's claiming

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 3>that the banks didn't do their job like his client.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.800
<v Speaker 3>He's like, they would have done their job. Client couldn't

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 3>have gotten away with this. And then he said, then,

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 3>because they did give him, as they told you, additional loans.

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 3>His lawyer says, quote, the banks were really eager to

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 3>loan him a lot of money, and they did go

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 3>with him. They showed him around the recording student. They

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 3>looked at face value what he was telling them and

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the documentation he was showing them, and they loan Rob

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 3>the money. Damn it, Banks, Why did you do that? Rob?

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Is why the rest of us can't They can never

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 2>get anything taken at face value.

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Completely Well the judge, of course threw

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 3>this out. He just laughed at the face of it.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 3>He's like law. And then so his girlfriend comes into court.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 3>She's trying to, like, you know, help him out. I

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 3>don't know how he has a girlfriend, but he has

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 3>a girlfriend someone like really loves and cares and believes

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 3>in his dream. And she says, and I quote, I

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 3>know that Rob knows what he did was wrong. But

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I also know is that a lot of what Rob

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 3>did came from the passion of wanting to live out

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 3>his dream, the dream of being a rock star. Starting

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 3>lights over Paris was not a selfish attempt at fame,

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 3>but rather a way to involve so many people in

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 3>a shared dream. I would love to imagine that. Now,

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 3>remember the brothers they were dragged in, the Salazar brothers, Yeah,

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 3>they were part of that shared dream. Well they got

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 3>their time in court as part of that share dream. Yeah.

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so he broke some off for.

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Them to one point seven millions for them. Yeah, and

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 3>so they had to plead guilty to loan fraud and

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 3>they also went to prison. Yeah, so thanks for that

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.280
<v Speaker 3>shared dream. Then there's lights over Paris. The band.

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You can be wondering, what about the band?

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 3>How do we get that band back together? Well, the

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 3>keep in mind session musicians, right, we've got we've gone

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 3>over that. But the band is not calling it quits.

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means because there is no band.

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 3>But apparently a Japanese record label signed Rob and the

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 3>band to a recording contract. And this happened just before

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>he pleaded guilty. Right, so this was like he finally

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 3>got his dream, right he made he signed the record contract.

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, in the meantime, he can now write new

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 3>songs while he's behind bars. It worked out for Merle Haggard.

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like maybe this could do it. But at

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the moment he's in a federal prison in El Paso, Texas,

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 3>a place called Latuna. If you were in a place

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.720
<v Speaker 3>called Latuna, Texas, you are Yeah.

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking like any he would ever make money

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:02.799
<v Speaker 2>off of what he's doing, but like if he were

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 2>to make royal like royalties, it would go to restitution.

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yep. So like he's gonna make royalty, Well,

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 3>start right, you get all those pennies from YouTube, send

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.720
<v Speaker 3>them that way. So dude spends his days now learning Spanish,

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 3>taking yoga classes, and fiddling around on the guitar. On

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 3>the guitar. SO twenty twenty caught up to him. They

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 3>did an interview from jail from prison rather Rob Tall

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 3>University said of his brief time as a rock star,

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 3>and I quote the thing I regret is kind of

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.839
<v Speaker 3>losing control. My lifestyle was crazy, and I was open

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.919
<v Speaker 3>deep down that I could rectify the situation and pay

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 3>these things back. It was crazy, man, crazy. You can

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 3>hear the music with the lyrics and how he talks.

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 3>He's just he's just right.

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>There, guyse it was so crazy what everyone made me do.

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Could you believe that that was wild? Guse so It

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 3>must have been like so far down in him that

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 3>that desire to rectify the situation that was just buried

0:50:58.640 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 3>by all of his burning desire.

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything that was like a log jam.

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he couldn't pay. Yeah, yeah, exactly all fluxed up there.

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 2>And who did that? Who did that to him?

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh? The banks? Elizabeth, Do we have a ridiculous takeaway?

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 2>My ridiculous takeaway would be number one. I still don't

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 2>understand how these banks went ahead and made those loans.

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I didn't think that a studio, even if

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 3>it was making twelve million dollars, would be something that

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 3>they would want to put a collateral and we're going

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 3>to give you three million.

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Against Yeah, it makes no sense. And more than one bank.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you want to get into the recording industry

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<v Speaker 3>as Bank of America?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you sell that to somebody? I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth that enough on paper that it's like it carries value.

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<v Speaker 2>So my takeaway is that this whole thing makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there you go. Money is not real.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thanks for that one, Zarin. You're welcome, Zarin. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna do it for you, Elizabeth, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to do it. I'm doing it for you, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>back at us well. Once again, thanks for listening. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous Crimes mostly by Elizabeth Dutton and Zarah Rinett, produced

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